#battlefield-legacy-titles | Battlefield | Page 1464

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 2:04 AM

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just do it in combined arms

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:04 AM

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i don't think anywhere in combined arms counts as an objective area

pulsar maple Apr 21, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Guys, I have a question

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:05 AM

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do u

pulsar maple Apr 21, 2019, 2:06 AM

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I know this belong in the promotion tab, but tbh that doesn't reach anyone, now i ask you if you want to watch my shrttage that i just released

jagged vector Apr 21, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Still belongs in #streams-and-videos

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 2:07 AM

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👀

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Defs don't post it outside the right channel plz

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This chat ain't for promotion

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:07 AM

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so there's a fence in the cathedral that u can't shoot through but you can get assblasted by a piat to the face through

pulsar maple Apr 21, 2019, 2:08 AM

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🖒

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I put it there, anyone finna watch?

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Wait, this is still promotion

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Forget what i said, goodnight or whatever is it at yours

dusk basalt Apr 21, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Anyone want to firewatch

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:14 AM

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S to spit on AP mines

dusk basalt Apr 21, 2019, 2:14 AM

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S

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Come to firestorm squad 6 if you wanna firestorm it up

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 2:15 AM

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!lfg

junior mistBOT Apr 21, 2019, 2:15 AM

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:information_source: <> Looking for Players to play with? Head Over to the Looking For Group Channels in the (#LFG) Channel Category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 2:15 AM

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@dusk basalt see above, plz don't lfg outside the dedicated channels in future EAHappy

dusk basalt Apr 21, 2019, 2:16 AM

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ok tyvm

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:18 AM

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@solid hinge pepoHmm

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:19 AM

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GWlulurdBlobStop

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:19 AM

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@strong parrot pepoHmm

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:19 AM

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Pilot

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:19 AM

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ablobthinkingfast

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:20 AM

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imagine each propeller is a bayonet

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:20 AM

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are you advocating violence?

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:20 AM

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ImoutoReally

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Next thing you'll think of is cars having bayonets attached to the sides of it

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:21 AM

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ah shit what was that ps1 game..

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Twisted Metal or something?

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:21 AM

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yess

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pretty much someones fantasy here GWseremePeepoThink

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:22 AM

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I see qttHehe

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:23 AM

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vroom vroom

pearl sorrel Apr 21, 2019, 2:24 AM

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anyone on pc wanna play some bf1?

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 2:24 AM

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!lfgpc

junior mistBOT Apr 21, 2019, 2:24 AM

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:information_source: <> Trying To Form A Squad For PC?
Head Over to the #lfg-pc Category and remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:27 AM

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@strong parrot and @solid hinge for mod

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Ohyeah

rose pilot Apr 21, 2019, 2:27 AM

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I'm in me mom's car vroom vroom

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Bmac and Ayla will have to fight to the death to take the place of Irgrl

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cz_breadman

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:28 AM

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FightMe

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Peter you look nice

rose pilot Apr 21, 2019, 2:28 AM

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I'll give it to someone else instead. Joi

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 2:28 AM

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lol

rose pilot Apr 21, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Thanks @proud lantern

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Np

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Half way through April

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Next month

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Wait hold up

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Is it summer next month?

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Two most active users

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Or is that june?

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Gives it to someone else

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Ohyeah

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Dad do you know when Summer starts in the northern hemisphere?

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:29 AM

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blobglare

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:30 AM

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@shrewd grove literally dont make me die laughing please. not at this hour GWqlabsMmLol

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Are you laughing thinking of Ayla missing her bayonet charge

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:30 AM

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@proud lantern we have two seasons where I live, I couldn’t care less about anywhere else

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Lol

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Ohyeah

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Oh

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rip

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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NotLikeThis

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Nah you know why im laughing dont play dumb GWmythiBlobLUL

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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man devastation is such a pain in the ass to move around on

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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I like devastation

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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you could say its devastating

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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It flows in my close-quarters favor

pearl sorrel Apr 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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wtf😂

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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lmao

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:32 AM

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I mean you ain't wrong, B

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:32 AM

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just saw some bandages someone threw at me just fly around a corner

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homing bandages

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:32 AM

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lol

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Oh shit

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The bandages are flying now

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 2:32 AM

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@strong parrot tbh I can't think of why

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:33 AM

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GWlulurdMmmYea ok bud

proud lantern Apr 21, 2019, 2:33 AM

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I'm special

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 2:33 AM

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@strong parrot I know why

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Ohyeah

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 2:34 AM

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MhmYeah

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Somehow the random EA dude spiinnz was more active in chat GWqlabsMmLol

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:35 AM

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they really gotta raise the level cap soon

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legit estimate 50/64 people in this lobby are max rank

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Oh I get it now @strong parrot @strong parrot

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Woops

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Why did that ping twice

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 2:36 AM

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GWpingSock GWsetmyxPeepoPinged GWqlabsHyperRage

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 2:36 AM

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FeelsMeowMan

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:37 AM

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McChicken

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i can't be the only one that has trouble trying to climb into the fucken trains on rotterdam

forest eagle Apr 21, 2019, 2:50 AM

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^^^

weak violet Apr 21, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Sup

icy sluice Apr 21, 2019, 2:51 AM

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You can land on them

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You can glitch sniper decoys I think

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The patch didn't completely block it

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 2:52 AM

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the doorways on the side of the train

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the ones without the stairs

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 2:57 AM

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so what is good with snipers doing a follow-up shot unscoped?

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they get kills with it too

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i am wathcing a really godo one now he zooms in takes a shot and then unscopes and fires anotehr

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especially in a duel

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is an unscoped sniper shot accurate??

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 2:58 AM

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are you sure it wasn't stodeh with the commando carbine?

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 2:58 AM

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no i'm wathcing a guy in my game i am speccing him

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he does an unscoped follow-up

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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is he/she using the commando carbine

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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and gets kills from super far with it

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no it's one of the bolts

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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which gun

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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ddue just went 66-8 as sniper...

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i dunno it's one of the default bolts

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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or name of player

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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rubmybrick

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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i went 34:3 with sniper first time using 3x LUL

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Ah, not Reela

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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so by kd... Chag

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felt like bragging

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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66-8 with a bolt is pretty impressive it really si

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is

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:01 AM

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My KD with sniper is bad but I like to be on the point fisticuffing the assaults

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 3:01 AM

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person used Krag–Jørgensen, Shot Accuracy
38.40% 63 kills 55 headshots

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:02 AM

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when u get the hang of a bolt action with iron sights or a 3x scope

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so much more satisfying than even hitting 300m headshots

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 3:02 AM

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yeah he's insane and he no scopes alot of kills

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it looks like the hipfire if you are still at distance is like nearly as accurate as aim down sights

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up close hipfire is bad on snipes as I can attest to mysefl

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 3:03 AM

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like this right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7UrCtEhD_8

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 3:04 AM

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that is up close but yes like that

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he strafe fires from cover with the bolt from like 150-200m

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and it seems to be as accurate as scoped fire

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Isn't BFV with the whole "your bullets go where you aim"

glossy locust Apr 21, 2019, 3:06 AM

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i guess but i don't really fuck with that you shouldn't be able to hipfire a damn bolt action accurately

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it's stupid

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 3:06 AM

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yes, but explain that to me when all my bullets miss from 10 feet away aiming right at the person FeelsMeowMan

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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I mean it sounds like the hipfire is just as accurate when you've already lined up a shot

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We can test that in the range actually, one of the only uses of it

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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according to the bfv tracker i am in the top 51% of ranks at rank 50

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so 50% of people are rank 50?

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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probably

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Only thing that sucks is that the practice range has launch stats of all guns

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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uncap when

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 3:09 AM

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and can't use bipod in the range

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 3:09 AM

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launch stats GWaobaWhat

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:09 AM

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yeah the practise range is so useless

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Yeah practice range was, like the rest of bfv, a huge disappointment

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Can't even use most of your guns there

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:10 AM

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it really can't take much effort at all to at least make it workable

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:10 AM

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If the range got constant updates it'd be okay

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:10 AM

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i want a sunglasses dlc

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:11 AM

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I want more Bf1 servers

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Tbh

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:11 AM

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guys, as a beginner i have a question..why do the weapons that get unlocked by higher levels seem to be worse than the initial weapon, for medic for example..?

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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@solid hinge they're for different purposes and use cases

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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oh

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Honestly with medic it's completely personal choice

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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the suomi has a crazy low accuracy rate lol

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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I always use the MP40 or Thompson

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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i/e mp40

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i.e

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i love the sten lol

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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A lot of people say the Suomi is the best smg

tight tusk Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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most medics guns are literally the same with different rpm so it doesnt matter too much

icy sluice Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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DICE pls expand grind

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Medic for instance has the MP34 and ZK which are longer range, and some that are super fast and inaccurate

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Sten is okay I guess, but MP34 or ZK are great

tight tusk Apr 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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^

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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I miss my dmrs on medic sadcat

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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I use 900 rpm thompson and use the semi auto mode for longer ranges

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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okay, will try them all out at a later point

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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You mean you miss the Farquhar

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qttHehe

tight tusk Apr 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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best medics guns imo are sten, mp40 and thompson

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Farquhar hill optical and 1906 in bf1 👌

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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mp40 is iconic

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and thompson

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so i pick those two

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I used the Chinese bolt/semi for medic in BF1

icy sluice Apr 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Optical always seemed to make guns less accurate

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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But yeah, actually having an accurate ranged gun that wasn't a bullet hose

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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General Liu

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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General Liu HappyCali

icy sluice Apr 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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General Liu was basically a g.95

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Best gun at the end

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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The Liu was my favourite, it felt so satisfying to kill with in both fire modes

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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selbstalasasdawer m1916 superior

icy sluice Apr 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Melee to skip animation

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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It was an m98 or a 6 bullet Mondragon all at once

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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General Liu had G98 stats

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For bolt

icy sluice Apr 21, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Thought it was 95 stats

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Na, even had a sweet spot

icy sluice Apr 21, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Oh yeah

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:16 AM

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It was dirty af

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So much fun on Suez

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Also the ivory skin for it was the sexiest skin in the whole game

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:17 AM

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woop

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Liu and Peacekeeper was my go-to medic loadout

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:17 AM

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just unlocked the mint big dildo barrel skin for the lewis gun

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:17 AM

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I remember using it a bunch on River Somme

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:18 AM

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I had to be on point to use the Liu tbh

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Has the Thompson been buffed? it’s more OP than I remember

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Hey Manic wanna BF1 with the lads in OBP tonight

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Tommy has only ever been nerfed sadcat

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:18 AM

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I don't think any SMGs got a buff since like a little bit after launch

floral flint Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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@solid hinge is here btw

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best youtuber

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Why would you ping them tho

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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!@

junior mistBOT Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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:information_source: Please refrain from tagging people that are not actively talking in the text chat, its considered unsportsmanlike behaviour and is not tolerated here.
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compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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@versed notch I'm keen af but been running a camp thing with the fam so may be busy

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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I see lots of people using it with drum mag but I prefer the high fire rate and quicker reload always puts me at top of leaderboard

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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aight

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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That needs to be changed lol @versed notch

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Next week I have leave though so I'm free all then

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:20 AM

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My only holidays is this week though

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FeelsMeowMan

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Damn sadcat

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Oh well, it's University, I have loads of time

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qttHehe

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:20 AM

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I mean who studies tbh

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Engineers

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Fuck having an education LUL

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:21 AM

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jk I'm not trying to be an Engineer lmao

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Winging it is how I got through the one semester of uni before I flunked damn_DABniel

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:21 AM

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I dindu nothin @floral flint

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:21 AM

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lol

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:21 AM

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You see Manic if I did that

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I'll get disowned

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qttHehe

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Oof

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Yeah my extended family are all upper middle class with masters

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I didn't even go to Uni because I had a family business I just swoosed into

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OrangeJustice

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Then there's me

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Oof

floral flint Apr 21, 2019, 3:22 AM

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so you play battlefeild V @solid hinge ?

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Anyway let's take this to #general tbh

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I used to @floral flint

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 3:23 AM

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I trade sleep so I can do normal uni stuff and still game :/

floral flint Apr 21, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Battlefeild V is fun @solid hinge

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:23 AM

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eeeeeeeeeh

floral flint Apr 21, 2019, 3:24 AM

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do it for stonecold

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:24 AM

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I_dont_feel_so_yeet

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Stonecold would rather play a finished game

floral flint Apr 21, 2019, 3:24 AM

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OOOOOOOFFF

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:24 AM

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shame he only plays PUBG

floral flint Apr 21, 2019, 3:24 AM

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lol

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:24 AM

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We can only hope it'll be close to finished by fall when the Americans are put in

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Or at least less lacking

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:25 AM

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is the m1 garand in the game yet?

floral flint Apr 21, 2019, 3:25 AM

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in all seriousness, battlefeild V is a great game

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umm

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dunno

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:25 AM

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That'll probably be in Fall or maybe tad earlier @solid hinge

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:25 AM

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No

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it has great gameplay but that's about as far as i'd go

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yeah I'm boutta head out

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:25 AM

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May even be with the 5v5 mode coming out

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Who knows

floral flint Apr 21, 2019, 3:26 AM

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good talk @autumn anvil

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i was in the youtube stream you did i little bit ago

echo glen Apr 21, 2019, 3:35 AM

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Don't you wish they continued to give free weapons from bf1 as gifts in bfv?

weak violet Apr 21, 2019, 3:36 AM

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God I love the KE7

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:36 AM

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More like the bad E7

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Gottem

echo glen Apr 21, 2019, 3:36 AM

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Oof

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:36 AM

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Or just painfullymediocreE7

echo glen Apr 21, 2019, 3:36 AM

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It's an ok gun.

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Decent fire rate, ok mag size.

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 3:37 AM

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Its chunky and ugly

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:37 AM

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Even though I'm disappointed with the LS/26 not having a slower fire rate and the 75 round pan mag I hope it deletes the KE7 for good

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Because I want the KE7 to get a rework mainly tbh

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:37 AM

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and it reminds me of how stupid I was to buy deluxe

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with that god awful red devil skin

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well

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a piece of it

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:38 AM

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They shouldve given the napalm skin

weak violet Apr 21, 2019, 3:38 AM

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I love the KE7 tbh

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It is so much better then the FG42 I feel

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:38 AM

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When the BAR drops in BFV I'll be saying goodbye to the FG-42

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 3:38 AM

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The FG just deletes people though

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And got a recoil buff

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 3:39 AM

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I know

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:39 AM

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i don't like any of the skins really

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except mint and some of the night owl pieces

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 3:39 AM

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The Bar will be a competitor to the FG I feel

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Mint and night owl I use a lot

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For wood I used blued

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 3:40 AM

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I put Captured wood on my G1-5

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:40 AM

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i like some of the chromed muzzles

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like on the snipers

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 3:40 AM

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When I realised the stock and grip were different colours

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The chromed sniper muzzles are sick

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I was gonna get one on my RSC

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:41 AM

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i have it on the krag jørgensen

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looks dope

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Yeah

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Its mad as heck

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Its gold on some rifles too

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:42 AM

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i think the ptsr from cod waw had it

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:42 AM

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I like the look of gold metal and mint wood

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:43 AM

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yeha that's what I did on the sturmgewehr

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no way I'm doing all those mastery assignments

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and the gold wood looks like poo

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yeha 🤠

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Mint wood is just too clean for me

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:45 AM

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I only finished them on the MP34 and m95

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:45 AM

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it says "mint", so~

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:45 AM

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The only gun I did all the challenges for was the MG42 because I loved it so much

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:45 AM

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I really really wanted the gold reciever on the 1906 but after a lot of tries I just stopped and gave up

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:45 AM

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And yeah I know but not even a gun that's factory new would have wood that looks like that

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Haven't played since

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:45 AM

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varnish

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Why would you want varnish on it in the first place tho

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:47 AM

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to protect the wood

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I_dont_feel_so_yeet

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:48 AM

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WoahThink

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mint gewehr 43 looks dope

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had to buy the chromed 3x sight though because all the mint and gold plated sights are iron sight

summer geyser Apr 21, 2019, 3:49 AM

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grind is fun

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tried it for the firsr time a few hours ago

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felt really similar to bf 1 in terms of pace and action

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except more tame

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:51 AM

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I like wide open game modes and I like spamming explosives too

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sue me

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being toxic with piat quad kills is fun alright

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too many rambos in this game...lol

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When you’re about to get top squad on the losing team of degenerates so you kick all your squad members Noice

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untwisted steel is awesome for sniper headshots

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everyone peeks over the boxes

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just lining themselves up

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But why use a sniper when you could just spam piats

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Straightened Steel

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 3:58 AM

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i vary it

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True

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Steal someone‘s bolt action rifle and Piat ppl for the best of both worlds

dusky badge Apr 21, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Untwisted steel

hollow cloak Apr 21, 2019, 4:08 AM

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after sharing my knowledge with #general I come here to share it with you all aswell. "poopy" is censored in BFV.

echo glen Apr 21, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Dang.

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 4:12 AM

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that makes me sad because I genuinely only use the less offensive version of swear words such as weiner, poop, butt

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FeelsMeowMan

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Woah don’t say poopy dude are you crazy?

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Who actually gets offended by swear words?

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 4:14 AM

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I get triggered by people using racist terms and swearing a lot

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Except 80 year old Christian ladies

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I understand racism being offensive but swear words being censored to not hurt the feelings of a snow flake is just sad

rotund sentinel Apr 21, 2019, 4:16 AM

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I love you lobster Johnson!

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Wut

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 4:16 AM

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should censor after like 2 or 3 uses or something and reset each game or hour maybe

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:16 AM

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I honestly wish you could turn the filter off in chat

narrow moss Apr 21, 2019, 4:16 AM

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fuck

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fuck grind

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its a bunch of people lying down prone

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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You only say that because Aussie banter is the best

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alkXD

echo glen Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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It really is a grind.

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Like have it on default sure but I want to see the rage

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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If you get offended by swear words online you probs should stay offline

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Aussie Banter in BF is great

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Wish they didn't have the filter

narrow moss Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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grind really fucking grinds my gears

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Oi m8

narrow moss Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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but there are no players anywhere else

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 4:17 AM

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lots of creative language in chat

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 4:18 AM

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unnecessary creative language

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Oi m8 geet facked

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Totally necessary

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 4:19 AM

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I love seeing hack calls with creative language

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:19 AM

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It kills the salt mining when there's a filter Yikes

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 4:19 AM

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qttHehe

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Need more people like Danny G getting triggered

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:20 AM

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I love ahahahah getting filtered out GWlulurdMmmYea

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:22 AM

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"Oh hi" is filtered out

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So I can't even greet peeps

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Dude obviously greeting people is offensive haHAA

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 4:23 AM

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O hai Denny, O hai Mark

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You're tearing me apart DICE!

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:24 AM

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It’s as if an SJW built the filter system

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Is sjw censored in PC?

solemn wedge Apr 21, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Thonk

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:25 AM

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It runs on a shitty algorithm

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That all it is

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Smh

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Seems like a cover up jk

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Shaking my fucking head

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:27 AM

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man, this game is full of mindless apes, it's horrible

stoic breach Apr 21, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Mindless targets

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:27 AM

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just cannon fodder

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Yes

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For my bullets

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:28 AM

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placing beacon to respawn, mates spawn there and run instantly without looking around into bullet storms yeah..

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:29 AM

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using beacons without a squad in voip

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:29 AM

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never met players like that in apex legends for example lol

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Na I prefer the mines/flares duo

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:29 AM

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i should switch back to mines, yeah

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Medics that don’t revive but just stare at you tryna find the revive button

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flares = best

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Then squad jump to find peeps that are useful spawns

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:30 AM

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lol mister yeah

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Flares are always best

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I've got a vid of that

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Grind medics also never revive

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too many players try to be the hero in this game, but kinda forget that it's impossible alone

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Eh it's very possible

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:31 AM

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For me it’s rare to find people that ptfo

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Much less than bf1 but if you're playing well you can solo some stuff

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The lower ttk is much more punishing though, bf1 it was like you're immortal

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Sentry kits will be fun to see again imo

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:33 AM

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I think kits like that could make a comeback if they were just combat roles for certain classes that were very limited

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Elite classes was one of the things I didn't like in Bf1

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Having them in bfv but without the armour as squad callins would be good though

tame bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Elite classes were fun

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:34 AM

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That's what I'm thinking

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They could come back as just a combat role with drawbacks

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Like a flamethrower kit with limited ammo and it damages you too

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Yeah and you get blown up if you're shot in the back enough like Day Of Infamy does

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roseisangry

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:35 AM

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👌

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Make them slow as fuck would be one way to make them less OP

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Well the mg08 would have to be

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It's heavy as hell

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Who says it would be the MG/08?

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Talking of MGs I’m hoping they add the browning

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Browning has been confirmed for awhile

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Which one?

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Leaked stats too

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1919

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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The .30 cal or the .50?

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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.30

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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m1919a6

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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50 cal would be too much

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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50cal... GWlulurdWaitWhat

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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It'll be the A6 model

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:37 AM

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The .50 was designed during WWI.

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:38 AM

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.50cal would be like stationary i guess

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:38 AM

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but why would we get it as a support gun

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:38 AM

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Should be a placed turret like Vickers

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:38 AM

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it would be the vickers/mg34 counterpart on tanks and for supports to build

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:38 AM

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yeah

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:38 AM

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Fun fact, did you know the M2 Browning has a SELECTOR SWITCH?

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And can fire Semi-Auto as well as Full Auto?

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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dakka and more dakka? GWbowsuBlobGuns

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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1919 is gonna be the main reason I ever use MMGs again

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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fix bipods before the 1919 pls

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Hopefully

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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before i fucking off myself trying to use that shit

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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yeah so annoying

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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M1919 bipod? What is this World at War?

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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the bipods

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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literally still a buggy shit system

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:39 AM

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yeah

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:40 AM

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if you think theyll make the 1919 a lmg OMEGALUL

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Has the PPSH 41 been confirmed in leaks?

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:40 AM

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idk

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Not yet

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Personally I think Russians were already confirmed by the deluxe edition giving you a Mosin and Degtyarev for BF1

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Plus concept art

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Which PP are we getting bois?

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:41 AM

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And yes I know concept art is just for concept, but yknow

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:41 AM

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PPD, PPSH41 or PPSH45?

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Itll probably be 41

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:41 AM

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maybe all

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:41 AM

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RPD.

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:41 AM

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I wish they added the M1a1 Thompson with the charging handle on the side

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:42 AM

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They're adding the M2 carbine apparently too

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:42 AM

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M2 carbine?

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:42 AM

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m1a1 with a solid stock

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:42 AM

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is that only for chapter 4?

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the m2 carbine

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i mean 5v5

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Not sure

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Wasn't there an M1 Carbine with a solid stock just called...well...the M1 Carbine?

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I mean the folding stock is the M1A1.

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:43 AM

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We don't know if everything in 5v5 will be locked to the mode

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:43 AM

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I think the solid stock is just M1 Carbine.

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:43 AM

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the m1 is the solid stock

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:43 AM

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M2 carbine is also a variant of the carbine with the wood stock

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:44 AM

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but automatic right?

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Yep

strong parrot Apr 21, 2019, 4:44 AM

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oh derp..

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another bullet hose? LUL

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:44 AM

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It's selector fire.

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Not sure if it has select fire

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Damn I actually downed someone while being down in Firestorm

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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It literally says in the linked Wiki article it's select fire.

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Thompson with side charging handle is the A2, so if we're getting the M2 we'll most likely get the later Thompson as well

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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It'll probably be added as an assault rifle.

weak violet Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Sup

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Sup

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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When is the US coming in?

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Chapter 5

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Fall

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Late

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As usual

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With Sherman tanks too hopefully

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Shermans are already fully modeled

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Thanks to last tiger

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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No reason there wouldn’t be Sherman’s

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Shermans also have the volley rockets.

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Calliope

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Yeah that.

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Yee

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Look they're rockets launched in a volley.

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I can call them Volley Rockets.

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OKAY?

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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will the calliopes be in multiplayer?

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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I wonder if "Denser Armor" is gonna be a Spec.

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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I’ll allow it

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:47 AM

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they could be reinforcement

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:47 AM

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OH RIGHT.

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I forgot about reinforcement tanks.

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Wait.

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That's it.

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Those heavy shermans that took three shots in the campaign.

sonic rampart Apr 21, 2019, 4:47 AM

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haHAA

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:47 AM

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That's probably the call in.

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Wonder when the Body option for tanks will be used

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:47 AM

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yeah it said its coming soon

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SOON

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:48 AM

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Been “coming soon” since launch

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:48 AM

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yeah

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Last tiger skin with body mods will look interesting

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Yo we got Dice in this chat.

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Why don't we ask them.

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Where the Dice devs at?

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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I’ve never seen them talk in here

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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me too

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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I've only seen EA employees, not Dice ones though.

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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And I’d doubt they’d confirm leaks

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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They talk here every now and then

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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I don't want an exact date.

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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They're not allowed to confirm nor deny anything

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Just a header.

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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Unless they have approval that is

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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Like "Expect them in a few weeks." or "In a couple months."

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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And please don't ping them

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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I wasn't going to.

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I'm an idiot. I'm not stupid.

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Wait....

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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How does one become “trusted”

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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the fuq is "Extr Offset" and why is is always so high?

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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!trusted

junior mistBOT Apr 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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:information_source: The trusted role is given out to our active and resourceful members on this discord server, this does not mean you need to be only talking in the Battlefield channel, you can just be a genuine good person throughout the server, if you beg and or ask mods/admins for this role, your chances will drastically lower.

(If you want to nominate someone for the trusted role feel free to DM our modmail bot, we take all suggestions into consideration.) 🌟

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 4:51 AM

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oh ok

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Oh I asked well rip

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 4:53 AM

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When you celebrate getting the trusted role by mooning the server.

scenic beacon Apr 21, 2019, 4:55 AM

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its not that fun when the mods get involved

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:55 AM

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What's that supposed to mean

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Oof

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someone seems to have problems with authorities :J

scenic beacon Apr 21, 2019, 4:57 AM

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They're real nice... until someone starts disobeying anything... then things get nasty fast

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very fast

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:58 AM

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It really do be like that

scenic beacon Apr 21, 2019, 4:58 AM

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like thewhole rsp petition thing

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was that like 6 bans or mutes in a day?

unique mango Apr 21, 2019, 4:58 AM

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really need more combined arms

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:59 AM

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I think the week after next is more combined arms

unique mango Apr 21, 2019, 4:59 AM

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oh crap really

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thats hella frikin awesome

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 4:59 AM

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anyone remembering that dune level in bf3?

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or desert

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 4:59 AM

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That's why the Tromboncino and P08 carbine assignments are all focused on CA

scenic beacon Apr 21, 2019, 5:00 AM

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fook. gotta play THAT again?!

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wallhack AI

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Honestly all the assignments look super easy

#

One of them is literally "headshot 1 enemy in combined arms"

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Or was anyway

latent bridge Apr 21, 2019, 5:01 AM

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i dont like combined arms
i dont know why the enemy saw me through a wall

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but this does not happen all the time

sonic rampart Apr 21, 2019, 5:03 AM

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haHAA

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Easy mode first level it is

nocturne swallow Apr 21, 2019, 5:08 AM

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CA isn't good. It's just really simplistic and the enemies are basically omniscient.

merry vortex Apr 21, 2019, 5:09 AM

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breakthrough ❤

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 5:10 AM

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ai in combined arms are hackers

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they have esp and wallhax

merry vortex Apr 21, 2019, 5:11 AM

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there were a ton of hackers on asia at launch

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and for the first few weeks

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i dont see too many now

#

maybe like once every 7 matches

versed notch Apr 21, 2019, 5:12 AM

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that's still alot in my eyes

merry vortex Apr 21, 2019, 5:12 AM

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maybe for oce idk

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i dont see that many

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:22 AM

#

The AI is also simplistic in the fact they don't take cover or use strategy at all.

#

They just all rush your position.

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:23 AM

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They do take cover

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Just not too often

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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they take cover out in the open like its a game of charades

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:27 AM

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Yeah it's weird

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Some units seem more aggressive than others tho

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:29 AM

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http://askagamedev.tumblr.com/post/76972636953/game-development-myths-players-want-smart

Tumblr

Ask a Game Dev

Game Development Myths: Players Want Smart Artificial Intelligence

First, let me address the perpetual myth that more accurate AI is somehow "smarter". That's simply not true. If the game decides that the enemy is going to hit you, then the enemy is going to hit you....

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no one actually wants smarter AI

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:30 AM

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carlostf

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:31 AM

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you ultimately play PVE to shoot at dumb bots

solid hinge Apr 21, 2019, 5:31 AM

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getting the feeling that many lvl50 players grew bad habits already and just don't work on themselves to get better and just serve as cannon fodder..

#

Do you get a lot of cc for winning firestorm? I suddenly have like 10k more than I thought I did

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:31 AM

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I always liked that Halo had some nice AI

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I play PVE when a game is dead

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Mostly

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 5:32 AM

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good PvE is better than PvP

#

tends to work smoother

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:32 AM

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yeah Halo AI was well done

#

still very very dumb AI

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 5:32 AM

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dont have to deal with player lag too much in most games in PvE

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:32 AM

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but well done bc the setting allows for a variety of enemy types that have different types of very predictable behavior

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:34 AM

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I wouldn't mind smarter AI, but normally I don't care

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As long as the experience itself is challenging

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:34 AM

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yeah, I think different enemy unit types is the best way to achieve a challenging PVE experience

merry vortex Apr 21, 2019, 5:34 AM

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just choose medic class and its easy LUL

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:34 AM

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ultimately, the AI pretty much has to be very scripted

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Yeah enemy types is always the best

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:35 AM

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I don't think "smart" AI would be an issue if the enemy can't shoot

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so for like a monster hunter type game

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or zombies

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Pretty much

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:35 AM

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bc you're not taking tons of damage with no feedback

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but "smart AI" becomes an issue with ranged weaponry

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:36 AM

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MG42/M1922/STG.44/MP40/Thompson/KE7/FG-42

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drakeno

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Commando Carbine

#

HYPERDRAKEYES

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Smart AI in a first person shooter would probably only really work if you had equally smart teammates maybe

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And just as many

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:37 AM

#

yeah

#

so basically PVP esque

#

I wouldn't mind if BF had AI units in MP to fill out empty slots

#

or even dumb AI units to create a larger sense of scale

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:38 AM

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That's what SWBF2 did in the new capital supremacy mode

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:38 AM

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having AI units in my squad would honestly be preferable to having real humans

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bc you could make them give you ammo and health when you ask

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😂😂😂

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Could you imagine if they listened to your orders

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WearyOk

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:39 AM

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making people build tank resupplies for you 👌👌👌

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Make them all your repair monkeys for your valentine aa

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:39 AM

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nah Valentine Mk8 gang

#

actually an S tier tank

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Dude.

#

There is smart AI in games even BEFORE battlefield.

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Here's 2.

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 5:40 AM

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this game still lags ass for no reason

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Three even.

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 5:40 AM

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getting 1000+ spikes

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Half-Life 1.

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Half-Life 2.

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F.E.A.R. the original.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:40 AM

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BF2 didn't have smart AI

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:40 AM

#

F.E.A.R. had AMAZING AI.

#

And BFV could take some lessons.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:41 AM

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it's not that BFV needs smart AI, it just needs its AI to be less dumb

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:41 AM

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HL1 and 2 as well as FEAR had good AI, but you could have just as easily charged through guns blazing the entire game and get through mostly unscathed

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:41 AM

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Here's the funny thing. F.E.A.R. ai is almost the same as BFV. The enemies in F.E.A.R. are omniscient as well.

#

BUT.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:41 AM

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^^

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:41 AM

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They have RULES about their engagement.

#

They can't just rush down your position.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:41 AM

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well if BFV actually had proper class recognition

#

you could have different enemy types

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that are still dumb, but are unique in how they fight

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Based on how well you're doing, what you've done to them and the cover about, they can strategize and react differently to the player.

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No fight is ever the same.

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Even on subsequent replays.

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Honestly BFV needs to do what SWBF2 did and no matter your appearance items, add little things on to certain classes to make them identifiable, even animations

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:43 AM

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http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~jorkin/gdc2006_orkin_jeff_fear.pdf

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interesting study on F.E.A.R. AI

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not truly smart AI

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but they have three distinct states

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very predictable

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very simple

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Pretty much, your examples were of good AI but not so smart they can stop you going Rambo all day

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:46 AM

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well the goal of PVE is to let the player rambo all day

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that's what you play PVE for

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:46 AM

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For the most part yeah

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At least with shooters

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:46 AM

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the goal of good AI in PVE is to mix up what you're rambo-ing

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there's only so much you can do for good AI in a shooter

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Until it just feels like you're destined to lose lol

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:47 AM

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The FEAR AI is simple.

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But it works in engagements so well.

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Depending on what you do, it changes accordingly.

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It's not scripted.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:48 AM

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yes, because of a very few actual states for the AI, and the fact that these changes in behavior are very scripted and have tons of cues

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:48 AM

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It simply takes what it has and applies what it knows to adjust.

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You kill one guy, they could start flanking.

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Kill 2 instead, and they decide to take further cover.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:49 AM

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iirc, they respond predictably to what you do

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it's not random

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and there's plenty of cues to indicate what strategy they will switch to

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which is good

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:49 AM

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They have tons of voicelines yelling out where you are and what they're doing

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Like throwing a grenade and stuff like that

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HL1 and 2 did something similar

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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voice lines is something huge that BF lacks

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even in MP

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BFH was a huge step forward here

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everything since has been several steps back

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I mean the general chaos and sensory overload in BF makes it difficult for good voice work to matter

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Mhm

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Besides screaming anyway

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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yeah

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we need less screaming

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more audio cues

sonic rampart Apr 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Wdym

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We got great voice lines in bf5

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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I mean...KHT. I love the idea.

sonic rampart Apr 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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SANITÄTER

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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I really do.

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But if you go into war.

sonic rampart Apr 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Hilf mir doch

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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And DON'T hear a SHITLOAD of screaming...

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...something is wrong.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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don't really care much for the realism argument

sonic rampart Apr 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Blood everywhere, God help me. Medic plz!

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Here's a thing though.

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There ARE lines.

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Like...good ones.

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But they're so quiet you can't hear them.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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yes, background noise needs to be slightly muted when voice lines come in

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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I heard my dude once say "I'M NOT A SOLDIER! PLEASE STOP!" but it was almost BARELY audible.

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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In BF1 there were some good voicelines and they stood out really well among the chaos

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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and the voice work does little to actually communicate useful information

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Most of it is just flavour text essentially

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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^

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Besides the throwing a grenade voicelines which enemies rarely hear

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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like a really interesting thing coming in 5v5 is counter spotting, which should honestly be baked into the base game

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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The voices in general are very quiet in BFV.

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Even when being spawned on.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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if you're spotted, you could have lines like "I think they're onto us"

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"I think our cover's blown"

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etc.

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Your squadmates say shit when squad spawning on you, but how often do you hear it?

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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feedback to let you know your flank is blown

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Why are the voicelines so quiet!?!?

charred heron Apr 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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I once clearly heard a shot-down enemy saying "I don't want to be a soldier anymore"

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Fun

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LUL

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Is it JUST ME?

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Please someone tell me if it's just me!

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Are the voices quiet for you too!?

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:55 AM

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They're quiet for everyone

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The sound mixing in BFV in general can be pretty atrocious

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Sad to say

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Thank you.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:55 AM

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BFV audio in general is borked

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tanks are super quiet

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:55 AM

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It's been fucked since launch

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:55 AM

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footsteps still don't work right

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 5:55 AM

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there is so much to process in game

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:55 AM

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The fact nobody was saying anything was making me think you guys didn't know what I was talking about.

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 5:55 AM

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the maps have more varied elevation

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the audio is just as good as it's always been

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the terrain is just more complex

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Footsteps worked really well in BF1 so it sucks they're just non existent now

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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the audio sounds good

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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No. It's not. It's REALLY not.

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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it doesn't work well

charred heron Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Hear footsteps from 200m through 3 buildings
Can't hear someone saying anything next to you

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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The mixing is AWFUL.

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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I think it'

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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The audio is good its just mixed badly

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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s a bit harder to do than you might realize

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Does every character in the game suffer from acute deafness?

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Or something?

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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I'm not a dev so I have no idea

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:56 AM

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worked fine in previous games

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 5:57 AM

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previous games had less complexity in the maps

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Like I'd say hearing a medic reviving someone with their syringe is more obvious than footsteps in BFV which shouldn't be the case

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:57 AM

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BFV suffers from an acute case of spaghetti code

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Nobody even says something when reviving.

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"YOU'RE GONNA BE ALRIGHT! C'MON, GET UP!"

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"I got you mate! Don't worry!"

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:57 AM

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You can hear the syringe which is louder than footsteps funnily enough

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:58 AM

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BFV revive in general is awful

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 5:58 AM

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honestly

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:58 AM

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everything about it sucks

amber notch Apr 21, 2019, 5:58 AM

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where is my bf3 revive

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😤

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I dont wanna give them a hand

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fuck

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:58 AM

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I hate the entire process of reviving someone or getting revives

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BF1 revive pls

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it's just BF3 revive but less janky

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 5:58 AM

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you get free smokes

charred heron Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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BF1 revive sliding

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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smokes don't solve the issues

charred heron Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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😩

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Where's my lethal defibrillator units?

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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I kinda like it, but mainly I just want it to not be as generous as BF1s where you felt like you were reviving from a mile away

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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they make revives easier

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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the only issue with BF1 revives was the cooldown was too fast

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made revive trains too easy

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Mainly that yeah

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What do you think of squad revives

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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BF1 revive with a slower cooldown would've been perfect

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i mean i don't mind them as a concept

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the animation sucks, but i don't mind the time required

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:00 AM

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it gives medics the option to revive

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makes squads more important

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I meant non medics

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:00 AM

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I like squad revives a lot since it does encourage playing together a little more at times when your squad is willing to do so

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:00 AM

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the biggest issue with squad revives: a blueberry medic is running up to revive you, your idiot support player in the squad takes the revive instead

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:00 AM

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But the animation is bad

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:00 AM

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takes too long, and you both die

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 6:00 AM

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When are the devs gonna let the community make their own Battlefield?

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:00 AM

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amazing

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@primal sage they already did, it's called BFV

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:01 AM

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in bf1 me and my squads have no good reason to run together

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bfv incentivizes that well

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:01 AM

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I think squad revives in a normal BF game would be like, your character putting their hand out for a few seconds compared to medics insta revive

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:01 AM

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if you're getting squad revived, and you're near a medic, you should just get the medic revive

primal sage Apr 21, 2019, 6:01 AM

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No I mean like made EXCLUSIVELY by the community.

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 6:01 AM

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I reckon limited squad revives in bf1 would've worked with a longer cooldown on medic revive

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I would rather play minesweeper than play a BF made by the community

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:02 AM

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kht we all know medics dont do their job at all times

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Well the community is a very divisive group, youd need to balance what the community wants with what would actually work for the balance

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:02 AM

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yes, that's why I don't revive as BFV medic

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Just make bf6 a milsim Yikes

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:03 AM

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BF by the community would just a shitty milsim

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:03 AM

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^

compact oxide Apr 21, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Yup

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:03 AM

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CoD gunplay + yuge recoil

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vehicles would be terrible bc everyone hates those

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:03 AM

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so many things are done right in this game gameplay wise

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:03 AM

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No one would be able to decide on one thing for it to be so it'd be a Frankenstein's monster of arcade and milsim

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:03 AM

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I hope we never go back to random cones and suppresion

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:03 AM

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zero means to dislodge campers bc community hates indirect fire

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random cones still exist

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:04 AM

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bullets go where your sight is

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:04 AM

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BFV has the worst gameplay decisions in the series, but there's still some things that make it fun enough

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yes, and your sight is shifted within your spread cone

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it's the same exact spread that existed before

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:04 AM

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in relation to your sight it's always on target

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:04 AM

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except your point of aim is shifted towards where your spread rolls ahead of time

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:04 AM

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BFV is a really weird mix of good and terrible

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:05 AM

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you can control taht

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:05 AM

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adds unnecessary screen shake imo, I would turn it off immediately if I could

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you can't control it

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it's the illusion of control

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which is all the community wants at the end of the day

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:05 AM

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so you would rather spray randomly than aim

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or aim directly at someone and miss

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:05 AM

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you can't "aim" it any better

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it's just as random as before

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you just get the illusion of control

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let's say you're using the StG

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shooting a bullet every 100ms

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your spread will shift your point of aim every 100ms, and recoil is applied on top of this

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:06 AM

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recoil can be compensated for, youre forced to stop shooting if the bullets simply dont go where your sight is

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:06 AM

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horizontal recoil is also random btw

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you cannot compensate for these shifts every 100ms

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it's just not humanly possible

topaz dome Apr 21, 2019, 6:07 AM

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"bullets go where you aim" - BFV dev team

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:07 AM

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so you only control the general drift of the recoil

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just like before

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:07 AM

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i'm sure many members of this community can hold an stg mag on target

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:07 AM

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yes, you can control this randomness just as well as you could in previous games

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:07 AM

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in other games regardless of the recoil the bullets would shoot out the side of your gun

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which cant be compensated for

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

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yes, you can compensate for that with trigger discipline

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by bursting

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

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you have to stop shooting

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in bfv you can control recoil

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and still shoot

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

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yes, you couldn't just hold LMB to kill at all ranges

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

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an entire mag

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but you can in bfv

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

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yes, it's braindead

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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disagree

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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and recoil isn't entirely controllable anyways

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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recoil control is a skill

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some people are better at it

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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so is controlling for your burst lengths

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you had to do both in previous games

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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but it's a limiting factor

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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yeah that's the point

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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in bfv youre less limited if youre skilled

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in other battlefields youre artificially restricted

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regardless of how good your aim is

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:10 AM

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BFV spread + recoil is just as artificially limiting

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:10 AM

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not for me

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:10 AM

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and good players can control their bursts better than worse ones

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:10 AM

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youre forced to shoot less

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and aim less

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:10 AM

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it added a much higher skill ceiling

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:10 AM

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you require less aim

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:11 AM

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you still have to aim just as well

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but it's more punishing of poor accuracy

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:11 AM

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keeping a mag on target is a skill

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:11 AM

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missing your initial burst is a big deal

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:11 AM

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it's impossible to keep a mag on target in older battlefields

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:11 AM

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you have to restart if your initial accuracy is poor

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:11 AM

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it artificially limits people with good recoil control

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:11 AM

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kek

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see: jjika

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some of the best recoil control in FPS

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praises BF3/4 gunplay

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:12 AM

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in which game

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so what

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:12 AM

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in general

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because it punishes people with poor initial accuracy

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:12 AM

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why does he praise games that artificially restrict his ability

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:12 AM

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if you miss your first 20 bullets, you shouldn't be able to finish someone with the last 10

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that's just braindead

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:12 AM

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I do wish the magdump thing is all you need to do to win

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:12 AM

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literally CoD gunplay

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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is cod bad

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Would go away*

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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no

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but it's gunplay is braindead

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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how so

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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not necessarily a bad thing

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Well cod knows it's audience better

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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recoil control is a skill

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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hold LMB magdump to win

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so is trigger discipline

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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the goal is to shoot as many bullets into your target as possible

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in the shortest period of time

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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trigger discipline is arguably harder

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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doing nothing

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is not harder

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it's a lack of action

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:14 AM

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knowing when not to act is just as important as knowing when to act

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Imagine if tap firing actually worked in BFV

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:14 AM

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you forgot the aiming part when you said just hit mouse button

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in a recoil system you ahve to aim more

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and have better aim

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 6:14 AM

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10 bullets is pretty lethal tho

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:14 AM

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tap firing does work

shrewd basalt Apr 21, 2019, 6:14 AM

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not many things you can get shot with ten times and walk it off

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:14 AM

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recoil alone doesn't reward aim more

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:15 AM

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you have to use your mouse to aim more

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literally

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:15 AM

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with an actual meaningful level of max spread, missing your initial bullets is punishing

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that requires more aim

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:15 AM

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because your aim is moved by the gun

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you literally are aiming against resistance

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:15 AM

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missing your initial bullets in BFV isn't a huge deal

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:15 AM

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which is more of a test

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:15 AM

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shitters can hold LMB, miss their shots, and just drag back to the body

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:16 AM

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they still aimed at your body

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and what were you doing in that time

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:16 AM

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in BF4, missing your first 3 AR bullets is a big deal

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your aim is bad, and you're doubly punished

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:16 AM

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your punished even for aiming good

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against multiple opponents

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full auto

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youre literally forced to stop shooting

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:17 AM

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why are you holding LMB against multiple targets

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:17 AM

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even when your aim is perfect

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because i'm aiming at them

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and i'm faster than them

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:17 AM

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you only have to let your finger off LMB for a fraction of a second

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:17 AM

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and they should die

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define fraction of a second

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and how much that matters

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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The resistance disappears the second you let go

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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in bfv you know where your bullets will go

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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like it takes 33ms to recover a ACE 23 5 round burst

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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in every other battlefield it's completely random

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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so you don't need to let your finger off the trigger that long

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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if youre aiming

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key word

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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where your bullets go in BFV is still random

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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if youre aiming at someone

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your bullet will hit them

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aim

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key word

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:19 AM

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where your point of aim is shifted is random

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:19 AM

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but can be controlled

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:19 AM

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you can control the general direction of where you point of aim is shifted

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you cannot control individual instances of your point of aim shifting

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:20 AM

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i can hold a ke7 mag on point

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for the entire mag

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:20 AM

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yeah, bc it has no spread increase

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it's an LMG

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it's meant to be magdumped

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:20 AM

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similar with the stg

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very rarely will I put a shot off target

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:20 AM

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there has never been a point in time where BF gunplay has been easier

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:21 AM

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aim wise

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or not shooting wise

shut cipher Apr 21, 2019, 6:21 AM

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I can't stand the M95 how do so many people use it? Krag is the best sniper no questions asked

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:21 AM

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where's this concept where bursting doesn't require you to keep your aim on point?

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:21 AM

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it's an accurate system that tells you where the bullet will go

midnight nimbus Apr 21, 2019, 6:21 AM

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like i said, requiring bursting is more demanding of good aim

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especially at higher levels of play

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:22 AM

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bullets dont shoot out of the side of your barrel

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in older battlefields you have no feedback over where your bullet goes

shrewd grove Apr 21, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Hopefully they can make some big changes eventually, even if it's unlikely

dreamy plank Apr 21, 2019, 6:22 AM

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you

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can aim in this system

wind pendant Apr 21, 2019, 6:23 AM

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didnt they change it recently so that gun isnt centered on your screen when it recoils?

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meaning you have less chance of controlling it now