#battlefield-legacy-titles

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scenic beacon
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@opaque cipher I was born from 2k ticket metro/locker knifing

opaque cipher
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Lmao

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Does that actually exist

scenic beacon
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Nah, i just knifed

sonic rampart
scenic beacon
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learned to topscore

weak violet
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Nice, I learned to bottomscore

opaque cipher
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You should play older BF titles

weak violet
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Why?

opaque cipher
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Relive the glorious metro and locker

weak violet
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Nope

scenic beacon
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Please do!

forest eagle
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Bf4 was the best game to ever exist

opaque cipher
weak violet
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I won't

forest eagle
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And same for BF3

scenic beacon
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we will make you

weak violet
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Really?

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Try me

scenic beacon
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OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU

opaque cipher
forest eagle
opaque cipher
sonic rampart
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Tfw we couldnt climb in bf4

solid hinge
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NANI???

weak violet
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@opaque cipher Blocked lamo

sonic rampart
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Feels really weird

opaque cipher
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Oof

forest eagle
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Sanitater

weak violet
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@scenic beacon You didn't escape the block either

scenic beacon
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fook

trim tapir
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fick

scenic beacon
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somebody else make him

opaque cipher
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Need to play older titles to appreciate how much fuckups Dice is making

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Baby steps

weak violet
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Heck

forest eagle
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🥶

trim tapir
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madic

weak violet
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No

midnight nimbus
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everything that made Lockers fun isn't in BFV though

weak violet
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Hmmm

opaque cipher
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Unfortunately

weak violet
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Stealth mute xd

midnight nimbus
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shotguns suck

forest eagle
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I kind of like the idea of planes in it though

midnight nimbus
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mortars don't exist

forest eagle
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Spices things up

weak violet
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Planes are fucking cancer

forest eagle
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The mortar does exist. It’s the PIAT

opaque cipher
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Mortar from uncap agony

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That’s like the only thing we ban

weak violet
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Introducing them into bfv grind mode is a idiot move

midnight nimbus
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nah man

opaque cipher
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Oh and goating

midnight nimbus
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leave the mortar outside

weak violet
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But I think dice will do that

midnight nimbus
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go near the obj

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shotgun people

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then access the mortar remotely

forest eagle
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Otherwise known as the: Pain In the Ass Thrower

opaque cipher
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DBV with frag

midnight nimbus
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man flying in Grind would be fun af though

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Ju-88 carpet bombing

forest eagle
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WTH is grind?

midnight nimbus
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can't miss

scenic beacon
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would kill the whole server

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OH GOD. VALENTINE AA

opaque cipher
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Oh fuck

forest eagle
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No, the flakpanzer

midnight nimbus
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Valentine AA isn't even the best zerg deleter

hoary condor
midnight nimbus
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Flakpanzer sucks

scenic beacon
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not anymore...

hoary condor
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its hometime

forest eagle
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Or the valentine LT with mine clearing charges

midnight nimbus
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Valentine Mk7 with the 6pdr

forest eagle
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6 pounder is

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👌

midnight nimbus
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the base 2pdr is so bad

solid hinge
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Looks too clean @hoary condor

midnight nimbus
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genuinely unusable

scenic beacon
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oh, valentine AA spotting flares would be so GOOD!

hoary condor
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Good lol

forest eagle
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That’s why I just run people over 😂

snow ermine
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bridge on Twisted steel is NOT broken. I like that.

opaque cipher
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I hope they don’t forget to put in AAs

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Else it’ll be hell

midnight nimbus
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I'm pretty sure there are no planes

opaque cipher
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I hope

solid hinge
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No vehicles in grind

dense bone
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good

solid hinge
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Just men being men

midnight nimbus
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Valentine AA would suck in Grind anyways

solid hinge
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Murdering eachother

scenic beacon
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T_T

sonic rampart
solid hinge
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Flamethrower tank in grind

opaque cipher
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They should give us all the tiny half tracks to drive

solid hinge
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On the unbroken bridge

strong pecan
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Boys will be boys

sonic rampart
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They should let us call in tanks

solid hinge
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What's the difference between a white and grey name

strong pecan
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No

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Big no

scenic beacon
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a manned STUG would be nice

midnight nimbus
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STURMTIGER TIME

sonic rampart
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calls in artillery

scenic beacon
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with the mgs taken

sonic rampart
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Everyone dies

opaque cipher
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Let us call in gunships

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AC-130 style

midnight nimbus
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man especially since you can boost requisition really easily in Narvik and Twisted Steel

scenic beacon
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oh god... v1 rockets in this...

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kills half the server

dense bone
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@solid hinge white is normal, grey is either trusted or dice friend

opaque cipher
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24 points for fortification destroyed @scenic beacon

solid hinge
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White better haha

sonic rampart
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I meant to send haHAA

solid hinge
sonic rampart
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Picard im a dead man now

opaque cipher
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They need to make water off limit for Rotterdam tbh

midnight nimbus
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I hope they don't

opaque cipher
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Else brits can swim under the German spawn and stealth cap it

midnight nimbus
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so I have a reason to play it

opaque cipher
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It’s the most broken spot in the game

sonic rampart
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I think Thats on purpose

midnight nimbus
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3/4 maps with water >>>

solid hinge
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Parachuting onto the roofs 😉

midnight nimbus
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V-1 spam time bois

opaque cipher
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Grind on Rotterdam but it’s the boat area instead

sonic rampart
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Is it?

opaque cipher
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Nah right now it’s rails

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So just opening spawn

solid hinge
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Boat area? Is that the area you see from the plane in airborne

weak violet
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Sup

sonic rampart
weak violet
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I hate modes that have planes

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I am a shit infantry

sonic rampart
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@opaque cipher there is a way to get on top of the subways Chag

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Free kills

midnight nimbus
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I love modes with planes

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when I am Valentine AA

weak violet
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I love destroy planes

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Because fuck those flying pricks

snow ermine
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Grind = dumbed down squad conquest. DICE is catering to attention deficit kiddies that can only run in straight line. haHAA

midnight nimbus
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nah mang

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Ju is just Valentine food

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Valentine kills all

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but tanks

solid hinge
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I'd rather go in a straight line than a bent line

midnight nimbus
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well yeah, you play on PS4

hollow cloak
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I've never been killed by an AA when flying.

midnight nimbus
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where people suck with AA

hollow cloak
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I always crash first

weak violet
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People will likely try to flank in twisted steel

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By going under

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So AP mines could be good

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To stop good players from having fun

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and flanking

solid hinge
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Under? Watch me going OVER

weak violet
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??????

solid hinge
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Climbing up the beams

weak violet
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Ok

snow ermine
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Can't wait to get killed by snipers camping on bridge beams.

weak violet
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And how would you not get insantly lit up

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By snipers spamming flares

solid hinge
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Camouflage

weak violet
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Flare spam would suck

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In grind

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Omg Just thinking about it

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It would totally ruin the mode

solid hinge
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Flare on the twisted steel bridge... all 32 players lit

weak violet
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Yup

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and its free exp

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Smoke spam would do shitfuck

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Flare spam would counter it so easly

midnight nimbus
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> not boosting reinforcements on this mode

weak violet
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Also decoys would be hell useful in this mode

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As they could easy be used to get a bunch of flares out

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and can bait enemys

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God can sniper be good in this mode?

midnight nimbus
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imagine using guns in this mode

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instead of explosives

weak violet
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Just use knife

solid hinge
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Oh shit... v1 or artillery on the bridge

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Fat man on grind

weak violet
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Artillery spam tho

solid hinge
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Artillery but each shell is a v1

scenic beacon
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so the 4k kg bomb

snow crater
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anyone knows what grind is gonna be

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its coming tommorow

scenic beacon
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a meat grinder

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ever played operation metro?

snow crater
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no

scenic beacon
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its basically that in bfv

snow crater
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im still pretty new

scenic beacon
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F

snow crater
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i have bf4 bf1 and bfv

scenic beacon
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32 v 32 dom size map, but the 3 points are in a line. basically a meat grinder of the middle point

solid hinge
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omg

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Then a shotgunner flanks and takes all the objectives

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I hope they add grind as a whole new gamemode

scenic beacon
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just whole server mg42

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please

solid hinge
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no

scenic beacon
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BRRRRRRRRRRT x 64

solid hinge
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I hope they add Air Assault in BFV

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I'm pro mg42er

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you need to burn if you are good at a camping weapon

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Are there stationary weapons on the bridge?

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I fucking hope so

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That'd be so cool

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HOLY FUCK WHAT IS GRIND AND WHY AM I ALREADY IN LOVE WITH A BAYTLE ON ONLY THE BRIDGE

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because

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intense pew pew @solid hinge

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Stationary machine gun on the bridge 😍 😍 😍

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I can’t wait

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If there isn't I'll use a mg42

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burn

scenic beacon
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MG42 squad...

solid hinge
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you're a loser if you max out a camping weapon

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No stationary guns just grab a bipod

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You’re just gay

scenic beacon
solid hinge
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no

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You don’t have to sit in a corner with it I sit on a hill and in the open and run around with it

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It’s a skillful gun depending on how it’s used

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Ultimate camping on the bridge. Ammo box, health box, fortifications and medics nearby

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And you’re an easy target

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I LOVE setting up my mg42 bipod on some sandbags

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Yes

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Not for easy kills or whatnot but it feels immersive

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Yeah it does

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I agree very much

native mural
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mg42 ew

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99% are laying in some damn corner all gane

solid hinge
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Aggressive mmging takes some serious skill considering it has no hipfire

scenic beacon
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^^^ once you get an mg42 flank on a few guys...

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its OVER

solid hinge
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I don't play recon but throwing knife flanks are cool as fuck

sonic rampart
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G1-5 flank Chag

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laughs in headshotting

hazy lynx
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Grenade flank

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boom

solid hinge
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Melee flank

sonic rampart
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Piat flank

hazy lynx
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Panzerfaust flank

solid hinge
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Bare fucking hands flank

hazy lynx
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No hands flank

sonic rampart
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Bayo flank

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Liberator flank

pale rain
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Yep

solid hinge
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Just fucking kill them by looking at them flank

weak violet
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Just fucking kill them

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xd

solid hinge
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@scenic beacon have you bought any epic skins

scenic beacon
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tornado alley, and the jackal, but for now, i just use my tachanka mask and assorted max rank outfits

weak violet
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Also @solid hinge why is your name like that

solid hinge
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I changed it week's ago for a meme and I cba to change it

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@scenic beacon you buying any of this week's cosmetics?

scenic beacon
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idk, maybe

solid hinge
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For whom the bells toll is nice

scenic beacon
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it is

solid hinge
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Gonna use it on my support

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The headgear that is

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Torso tornado alley

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Innacurate but we don't have anything accurate FeelsMeowMan

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Grind looks..... meaty

weak violet
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Hmmm

snow ermine
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artillery strike spam will kill this game mode faster than l can blink my eyes. haHAA

solid hinge
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Just don't spawn WeSmart

green elm
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@solid hinge i got my first bayonet kill today

solid hinge
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@green elm I'm proud of you!

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How'd it feel

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Bayonet kills often end in getting slaughtered by the enemies friend

green elm
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delicious

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he was helpless

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i stabbed his hip

hollow aurora
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anybody heard of the bc3 leak

solid hinge
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Battle cield 3?

hollow aurora
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bad company

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you got a mind?

green elm
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i’ve never played bad company

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is it a modern bf?

hollow aurora
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bc2 was in vietnam

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so i expect it to be modern

broken jungle
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when are they gonna add new maps? the current ones are already kinda getting old

shrewd grove
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May 30th we're getting one

green elm
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do we know what it is?

shrewd grove
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Then 2 more the month after I think

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Iirc

hollow aurora
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Mercury?

shrewd grove
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Yeah it's Mercury

hollow aurora
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firestorm map

shrewd grove
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The two after we don't know

solid hinge
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We know one

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Forgot it's name

green elm
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firestorm map?

shrewd grove
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Roadmap called Mercury a multiplayer map, I'd imagine they would have said if it were firestorm related

hollow aurora
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yea mercury is

solid hinge
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No

hollow aurora
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idk

solid hinge
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It looks like the tiralleur map

hollow aurora
shrewd grove
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Provence might be the one you're thinking of @solid hinge

solid hinge
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Probably

hollow aurora
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how about a map set in dunkirk

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or paris

solid hinge
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Paris in destruction

hollow aurora
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i imagine they wanna go with the chronological order

solid hinge
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Notre dame would look exactly the same as it does irl as it is ingame haHAA

hollow aurora
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haha real funny

solid hinge
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Imagine climbing the Eiffel tower

hollow aurora
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sure you wouldnt feel the same if someone burnt your house

solid hinge
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It's like the water tank in panzerstorm

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Sniper heaven

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No one lives in the notre

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Lol

hollow aurora
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no reason to make fun of it destroyed

solid hinge
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I'm not?

hollow aurora
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fuck it idc lol

solid hinge
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It's sad that it's destroyed

hollow aurora
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im not even french

solid hinge
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Neither lmao

tall hull
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i honestly expected BFV to get a longer lifespan since it's a life service game

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not sure how i feel about them already releasing another one next year

solid hinge
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Are they?

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Wait really

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Wtf

tall hull
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what?

solid hinge
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Already

tall hull
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it's just rumours though, so not really

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bc3

solid hinge
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But if the leak turns out to be true then BC3 will suffer the same fate as BFV

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Yeah

tall hull
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thing is, if you want a game that is life service, support and content for the game should be longer than the usual two years

solid hinge
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Are dice just trying to dispose of this game instead of making it better

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This game has opportunity they just need to stop fucking up

snow ermine
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EA is a corporation. It needs to pump out products as fast as possible. They are making games for the shareholders and not for you. haHAA

hollow aurora
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yes thats what i said

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i said bc3

tall hull
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though I would like to imagine that since BC3 isn't the usual "Battlefield Experience" maybe they'd have the two run side-by-side

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and have BFV run till 2021

hollow aurora
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i think it'll be good news since it'll be a modern military game

snow ermine
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DICE Stockholm already abandoned the project so no support after 2020.

hollow aurora
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im not sure how they can mess it up

solid hinge
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Bf5 had so much potential. A ww2 game for christs sake

tall hull
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yeah but I expect it to be a kind of different experience than the non-BC games
BC I think has always emphasized on smaller scale combat

hollow aurora
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if only ea didnt mess with the reveal trailer

tall hull
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no jets, no large as shit maps

hollow aurora
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the game look nothing like the reveal trailer was

tall hull
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yeah, they guess that was a wake up call, and I think the firestorm trailer looks abs good

snow ermine
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All the original staff that made BC left long ago. Don't get your hopes high. There is no talent in the company now.

tall hull
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rip

hollow aurora
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nope

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and bc2 had jets

pale rain
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It’s just a rumor

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We don’t know for sure

tall hull
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lmao the only time I remember jets in BC2 is in the start of Arica Harbor

hollow aurora
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thats doesnt automatically make bc3 a game with no jets no large maps

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@pale rain the leaker leaked bfv was back

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he leaked a ww2 game

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turns out to be bfv

solid hinge
stoic breach
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Damn I just woke up to Twisted Steel bridge-only

solid hinge
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Hope we can knock down that bridge!

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Yulp

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Gonna be fun

bright chasm
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so the grind gamemode came and all but i have a question its gonna go right? will those special gamemodes gonna come back?

solid hinge
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New maps are marita mercury and something else

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And provence

hollow aurora
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the best mode that they added was that 8v8 conquest

solid hinge
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Squad conquesy

hollow aurora
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idk

bright chasm
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i think the grind gamemode is best but no one gave answer to my question

rocky verge
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@solid hinge @scenic beacon well you guys can pick the outfit and MMG

hollow aurora
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cant type

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been a while since i played bfv

scenic beacon
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Mg42 if yall got it

solid hinge
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Yep

rocky verge
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Pulls out fully golden mg42Heck yes

solid hinge
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50 round with 1200 rpm?

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Or the other specs?

scenic beacon
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don't matter

bright chasm
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250 round with 1200rpm

solid hinge
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Imagine that

bright chasm
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more mag = more kills

hollow aurora
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its not that goof

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good

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you gotta prone when doing so

solid hinge
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But faster rpm faster kills 🤔

bright chasm
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i had the mg42 with 250 rounds i was rocking with it

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i remember the times i got 252 kills

scenic beacon
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Its REAL good

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my main gun

bright chasm
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it is dummy good

scenic beacon
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when you flank like 10 people and light em up

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oh god

rocky verge
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So we gonna use the mg42 what outfit?

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Or it dont matter

solid hinge
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Are we all gonna match

bright chasm
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in my book

solid hinge
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Is grind in the game yet?

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Tmr

bright chasm
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you gonna use it with finalcountdown

solid hinge
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Ahh man

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Thought it was on now

bright chasm
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that mafukin beret is cool

scenic beacon
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Outfit don't matter unless we're german. I want to use my tachanka mask thing

stoic breach
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I'm actually super excited to try Grind out

solid hinge
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Same

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Looks like metro the gamemode

bright chasm
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i care about british

solid hinge
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Cant wait

stoic breach
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Mostly because the bridge is the best part of Twisted Steel and its gonna play like a good version of Metro

bright chasm
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wheres my red beret and sherman firefly

stoic breach
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Yeah

bright chasm
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the sad thing for me

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i got banned

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i cant play bf 5

solid hinge
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The sherman tanks are in the game already

scenic beacon
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F

solid hinge
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Just like

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Put in mp

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Plz

bright chasm
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yea we know

solid hinge
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There are so many variants too

bright chasm
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yeah needs to be added

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i want firefly tho

solid hinge
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Like 5 different sherman bodies

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And two different shermans

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I think one of them is firefly

bright chasm
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firefly has model of normal sherman

solid hinge
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Let me find the reddit post

bright chasm
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we got m4a1 shermans

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we got m4a2

bright chasm
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we got 'm'i lost counting

solid hinge
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This one fucking camping medic has been accountable for all 10 of my deaths

bright chasm
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kill him then

solid hinge
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He sneaks up on me

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How is he camping then

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I have very bad situational awareness ok

bright chasm
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i'm really sad because i missed all the good customization sets

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i'm really sad and angry

solid hinge
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What sets?

bright chasm
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the soldier sets

weak violet
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Hello

scenic beacon
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outcamp HIM

solid hinge
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Epic skins?

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But which ones

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Boins or tow 1

bright chasm
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everyone of them

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i had money

solid hinge
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Oh

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Shouldnt spend money on them anyway

bright chasm
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i have lots of money

solid hinge
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He's gone like 70-10 and isn't reviving anyone and has a suomi. If I can't kill him I can shame him

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If I believed in god I’d say maybe this was a sign

bright chasm
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@solid hinge this aint shadow of war

neon loom
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I feel like I have to keep coming back to the game so I can get the tides of war stuff, but playing feels like a chore at this point. I want to leave the game (at least got now), but I feel like I have to keep coming back

midnight nimbus
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based

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he's playing medic right

solid hinge
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Why do you feel like you have to come back?

bright chasm
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because you want to get every customization thing

solid hinge
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Im on the same boat that playing feels more like a chore

neon loom
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So I can get the tides of war stuff

bright chasm
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dont want to miss them

neon loom
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^

solid hinge
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You can just buy it later

bright chasm
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can you buy skins?

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like the shotgun

solid hinge
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You can buy the stuff you miss from tow weeklies

bright chasm
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the double barrel one

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well

solid hinge
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and the ones locked behind the tow levels are going to be pointless because you can buy levels with boins soon

bright chasm
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its looks like i cant going to play bf 5 for 3 months or maybe 3 years

midnight nimbus
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crazy idea...

neon loom
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I'll come back when more content comes out. I've been playing since open beta, I'm getting bored at this point

midnight nimbus
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why don't people stop playing for cosmetics

solid hinge
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A wooden aug?

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Hows that bf6

sweet fulcrum
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that's an SKS made to resemble an AUG

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and that's a joke

bright chasm
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@midnight nimbus i care about customization AND gameplay features

solid hinge
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Very specific joke

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Customization is very limited and is gonna be even more so

bright chasm
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but i will give you example from warframe i'm a fashion framer i care about fashion i wear lots of clothes before going out for scholl or i dont know like going out with friends you know

solid hinge
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Everything is gonna be easy to get so literally no cosmetic item is gonna have real value behind it

bright chasm
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for me the final countdown helmet is precious for me

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its like a diamond for me

solid hinge
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It was on sale last week

bright chasm
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i know

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i had it

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from tow

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but did you know

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dice banned me

solid hinge
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Yeah now everyone stupid enough to buy boins has it too

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So everytime someone sees you with it theyll be like “lmao look at this idiot, spent $10 on boins pog”

bright chasm
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yea when those guys are poor they tell shit like that

solid hinge
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Its not even about being poor lmao

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Just a stupid decision to throw money into a thing like that

bright chasm
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i care about customization

solid hinge
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5 month old skins from the alpha and game trailers

bright chasm
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fashion

solid hinge
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And you pay more money to get them

neon loom
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I think I might go back to bf1 lol

bright chasm
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yea and a dipshit like me buys them

midnight nimbus
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imagine if instead of playing for cosmetics

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you just played to git gud at the game

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like how gaming has always been

bright chasm
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imegine of dont making decision for other people

dense bone
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buy what you like, and dont buy what you dont like

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its simple

solid hinge
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BF5 is super ez tho

bright chasm
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or giving ideas

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@dense bone +1

midnight nimbus
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you can get infinitely better

solid hinge
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if you buy boins you hurt the game for the rest of us tho

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They make even more skins and tone down real content

bright chasm
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what was your best score?

dense bone
#

i personally have no value in cosmetics for bfv, im gonna question and wonder why people care, but im not gonna seriously judge you for it

solid hinge
#

Because idiots buy 600000 packs of boins

dense bone
#

you really think people working on cosmetics make maps?

solid hinge
#

No and I didnt even say that

bright chasm
#

i dont care that much about cosmetics

solid hinge
#

Dont put words in my mouth

bright chasm
#

if i have my beret

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i'M cool with it

solid hinge
#

Why am I getting sniped in my spawn

dense bone
#

"They make even more skins and tone down real content"
not really sure your intentions with this comment then

solid hinge
#

Plz let us tip the bridge dice

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Plz

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Plz

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It means when people spend truck loads of cash on skins they wont be focusing on real content because why bother

bright chasm
#

i wonder is there any dice employers looking at this chat?

solid hinge
#

Put the teams in charge of maps, guns, designs modeling etc on other projects

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Only leave people who make skins

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If they are, implement bridge destruction

dense bone
#

because its more likely that content like maps or game modes will keep people playing or bring new players and hopefully those extra people buy more cosmetics with real money

solid hinge
#

Thats an optimistic way to look at it but not very realistic when it comes to bf5

dense bone
#

its realistic...

bright chasm
#

but in a otherway

solid hinge
#

and EAs track record doesnt support it either

dense bone
#

their track record for bf doesnt suggest much for bfv since this is teh first of the series to stray from the normal

solid hinge
#

Yes now they make content for no profit

dense bone
#

which is why we have cosmetics

solid hinge
#

So even more incentive to just put a small team to make skins and rake in the cash

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While the rest make bf6

bright chasm
#

bf6?

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or bf something else

dense bone
#

possibly, but they want to optimize their sales which would mean keeping/getting more possible cosmetic purchasers

bright chasm
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many of the people say bf bc3

solid hinge
#

I’d assume the next bf game is in the works considering how fast they started making this one

dense bone
#

this isnt exactly a hard concept

bright chasm
#

not bf6

solid hinge
#

If you look at bf5s sales and reputation I think its very plausible that what I said is true

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From a marketing stand point bf5 is very hard to sell to people

dense bone
#
  1. we dont know sales 2. reputation based on what? reddit?
solid hinge
#

We do know physical sales

bright chasm
#

youtube likes and dislikes

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lmao

dense bone
#

lol such a good indicator

solid hinge
#

Gives you an idea though

dense bone
#

phyiscal sales put bfv at the 13th best selling game of 2019...

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sounds so dire

stoic breach
#

What a shame

wise harness
#

Hi

dense bone
#

yes, other bf games sold better

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that does not mean bfv sold bad

wise harness
#

Yeah bf5 just fuckin drops the serie in terms of sale

dense bone
#

someone that got an 80% on their test didnt do "bad" because someone else got a 98%

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i hate this way of thinking

stoic breach
#

Generally people complaining about BFV on youtube is solely based on historical accuracy, EA being "woke", or that its not as good as BF4

wise harness
#

The worst thing is that every trailer that came after the reveal is 10000 times better

stoic breach
#

Nobody seems to complain about the gameplay

solid hinge
#

Its more like the same kid got a 80

wise harness
#

Like the rotterdam devasation trailer was fucking amazing

solid hinge
#

After getting 98s

dense bone
#

ok sure

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lets use that example

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80 is still good...

solid hinge
#

Yeah because you made it an 80

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Prolly more like a 65 realistically

dense bone
#

yea, because 9m in sales is weak

solid hinge
#

I mean it kinda is

stoic breach
#

9m after EA told people not to buy the game is pretty good

dense bone
#

being 13th in total sales WITHOUT pc digital is weak

weak marsh
#

Buonasera

solid hinge
#

and also lets not forget that most likely people who are playing the game now are people who got it half off around xmas

stoic breach
#

The playerbase for BFV has basically started at the base playercount after the hype dies down and people stick with the game

solid hinge
#

So thats already -50% off of profits around that time period

stoic breach
#

Thats still alot of people buying the game

dense bone
#

normal production cost for game dev is 100m on the high end, ill assum this is so far the cheapest recent bf game, and it still made around 9m in sales. at 45 bucks a piece at 9m sales, thats 405m dollars. ea done fucked up only roughly making 300m in revenue

stoic breach
#

$30-$50 for an AAA game is a steal

dense bone
#

thats not even comparing the promotional costs for bfv vs bf1

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which i think almost everyone will agree bf1 put more into promoting

limber dragon
#

EA/Dice def. made money on BFV

stoic breach
#

Yeah

solid hinge
#

Yeah which did very well for them

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They did make money for sure but its no secret it did underperform

dense bone
#

so youre point is that its bad because it didnt do AS good as bf1?

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despite seemingly being cheaper all around...

solid hinge
#

my are point isnt about if its a good game or not

dense bone
#

i never said that..

royal summit
#

What wrong with keeping DUO mode in Firestorm

dense bone
#

@royal summit its coming back tomorrow

limber dragon
#

Duo's comes back tomorrow

solid hinge
#

and no I dont think its bad but im only speculating that ea probably thinks it bad

royal summit
#

I know but why can’t they keep it in

dense bone
#

and will be permanent "for the foreseeable future"

stoic breach
#

They probably took it out to fix some matchmaking shit

solid hinge
#

EA doesnt care if it sold “good”

stoic breach
#

Or spawn values for items

solid hinge
#

EA wants as much money as possible

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With little profit

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Thats how companies work

dense bone
#

im almost certain DUO was just a test to see if the community liked/wanted it

solid hinge
#

Hense from that viewpoint it would only make sense to cut down costs and start making bf6 and sell skins in bf5

dense bone
#

@solid hinge and you have absolutely no source to say how much they put into bfv, how much they got, or how much they expect

solid hinge
#

You dont either

stoic breach
#

They were already planning on selling skins

dense bone
#

but i havent been claiming anything on their behalf

solid hinge
#

Thats why I keep saying im speculating and youre making statements

limber dragon
#

Just go look at EA's 10-k Financial Reports

midnight nimbus
#

I'm more concerned with employment churn at DICE than raw sales numbers

dense bone
#

youre speculating from their perspective

midnight nimbus
#

as far as the future of the franchise goes

dense bone
#

ive only given numbers off what we know

stoic breach
#

Thats a good point

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Churning tides

dense bone
#

i have not made any claims with those numbers

midnight nimbus
#

off LinkedIn, there's been a lot of departures

solid hinge
#

and im fairly certain ea has said that bf5 had lower than expected sales numbers

midnight nimbus
#

I hope the right choices in future talent and management are being made, that's all

solid hinge
#

I dont have a source to link rn but im sure they have

stoic breach
#

The 85% lower sales figures thing was a really dumb rumour

solid hinge
#

And making the game 50% off a month after release supports it

dense bone
#

it was 50% off a week after launch

stoic breach
#

@midnight nimbus is there much info about which areas have had departues

solid hinge
#

Yikes

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Even worse

midnight nimbus
#

pls stop hiring designers that don't play the game or understand similar games

dense bone
#

at face value yes its worse

neon loom
#

They hired designers who don't play battlefield?... Who is running this company for fucks sake

solid hinge
#

Good marketing strategy

dense bone
#

and i do recall saying ea saying they are disappointed with the numbers, but that doesnt mean anything

solid hinge
#

How does it not mean anything

dense bone
#

"good marketing stratehy"

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?

solid hinge
#

When they literally said

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Smh

midnight nimbus
#

there's also been a dip in hiring

neon loom
#

We are disappointed proceeds to make another game with horrible marketing

solid hinge
#

Yeah its a good marketing strat

stoic breach
#

It sounds like a bunch of random internships

midnight nimbus
#

less job postings

solid hinge
#

Make the game half off so at least some of the people who didnt get it at launch will get it

dense bone
#

im sure EA, a multibillion dollar company does have good marketing strategies

midnight nimbus
#

a lot of the guys DICE hired who actually understand the game and play it well have left

solid hinge
#

Im not arguing they dont

midnight nimbus
#

BF3 marketing was ingenious

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BF1 marketing was great

dense bone
#

mmk, sorry the internet makes me read blank statements like that as back handed

midnight nimbus
#

they understand good strategy there

dense bone
#

and because a company says one thing doesnt mean they are being reasonable

solid hinge
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Dont blame ya

midnight nimbus
#

the precedent is set

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DICE just needs to understand what made them great and return to that formula

solid hinge
#

Hense

midnight nimbus
#

there are plenty of guys who work there that understand how to make a great game

solid hinge
#

Even more reason to start making bf6

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And nail it

midnight nimbus
#

shame they don't get the attention they needed

forest eagle
#

BC3 was leaked...

midnight nimbus
#

BFV just needs to stand as a reminder of what not to do

solid hinge
#

I hope they keep the customization system from this game though, I think its really cool. Only the ww2 setting wasnt too great for it

midnight nimbus
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I won't ever support customization at the expense of class recognition

solid hinge
#

Meh I dont think its that bad of an issue

stoic breach
#

They could've kept silhouettes inclass

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Its a pretty bad issue

dense bone
#

class recognition is really only vital for competitive games

solid hinge
#

You can usually see what weapons people are carrying anyway

stoic breach
#

I love the game but its got alot of issues

midnight nimbus
#

yes, but a competitive scene to some degree is necessary imo

dense bone
#

in bf you really just need to know its a person and you have to kill them

midnight nimbus
#

you want a clear pedestal for high level play to stand on

solid hinge
#

bf competetive has never really worked out

midnight nimbus
#

give the community something to look towards

solid hinge
#

and imo it doesnt need it

midnight nimbus
#

BF3/4 comp was a good start

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the issue with BF comp is that it doesn't resemble normal play

solid hinge
#

Competetive scenes only make the game change unnecessarily often for the people not involved in that scene

stoic breach
#

Its not specifically competitive battlefield gameplay, but class recognition is a good way to raise the skill ceiling by letting players understand who they're against

midnight nimbus
#

that's a BF issue, not a competitive scene issue

solid hinge
#

Eh not

midnight nimbus
#

yes, I'm not a great player, but I can take advantage of class recognition

solid hinge
#

How does it help you though

dense bone
#

im a great player stat wise, and i could give 2 shits what class im againt

#

they gotta die

solid hinge
#

Pretty much

midnight nimbus
#

if i injure someone and they're not a medic, i know I can push them immediately

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bc no immediate self heal

solid hinge
#

You can push them anyway

dense bone
#

^

midnight nimbus
#

yes, but pushing an injured support is smarter than pushing an injured medic

stoic breach
#

If you're playing as a German player in BF1 and you see a Brodie holding his gun low it's probably a shotgun

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Its like that

dense bone
#

its better to push them either way

solid hinge
#

Smart doesnt even play a factor lol

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Just push them

midnight nimbus
#

depends on what health you're at and what weapon you have

solid hinge
#

You have the advantage anyway

dense bone
#

and its better to push the injured medic

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so they dont heal over you

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and kill you with more health

midnight nimbus
#

always pushing isn't a good strategy

solid hinge
#

Well ofc not always

stoic breach
#

There's specifics for every situation, theres arguments for both

midnight nimbus
#

I just go for blowing up the injured player now

solid hinge
#

If they run behind the enemy line yeah dont rush after him like a lunatic

dense bone
#

not pushing someone who can self heal is never a good thing

stoic breach
#

Thats also another specific

midnight nimbus
#

but not having class recognition is never better for gameplay

solid hinge
#

It barely has an impact

dense bone
#

its not necessary though

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not even close

solid hinge
#

Bf5 isnt overwatch

midnight nimbus
#

it's very good to have

dense bone
#

opinion

solid hinge
#

Its not a class based arena shooter

dense bone
#

^

stoic breach
#

It's gotten me killed alot of times so I can say from experience class recognition is better

midnight nimbus
#

it's a class based shooter, ultimately

dense bone
#

its better

#

yes

#

but its not vital

midnight nimbus
#

you play against snipers differently than SMG users

dense bone
#

i dont

solid hinge
#

I dont even see how its better tbh

#

Just shoot to kill

midnight nimbus
#

I don't wanna get up close with a BF1 assault if I'm using an SLR

dense bone
#

im always playing to my strengths

midnight nimbus
#

and class recognition helps you play to your strengths

solid hinge
#

Yeah maybe you dont peek that white glint with an smg

dense bone
#

i hardly give a fuck who it is im facing

#

they are going to die as fast as i can make them die, or i die

solid hinge
#

Its not even hard to tell people apart

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If theres a glint

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Sniper

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If theres suppressed rapid fire from afar

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Support

stoic breach
#

If an assault is wearing a coat I'm going to think its a Recon

solid hinge
#

If the guys next to ya

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Most likely assault or medic

stoic breach
#

With an SLR

solid hinge
#

and then just pop em

dense bone
#

we keep saying it does help, it is better, it does do this

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but they are miniscule perks to all that

midnight nimbus
#

it's ultimately depth in gameplay at the end of the day

solid hinge
#

What does it matter if its an assault or a recon

#

Just fucking shoot him

dense bone
#

seriously, if they had each class glow a bright color depending on class, my stats arent going to increase by much, if at all

#

i think we are asking for needless thing

stoic breach
#

If I am a recon with a bolt and I see an assault wearing a coat and I shoot I will be instantly killed

solid hinge
#

And if you cant hit ur shots and they go behind cover maybe its not the class recognition thats the issue

midnight nimbus
#

if it's an SMG user, I'm bored inclined to wait at range or use explosives than rush them up close

#

like imagine if you couldn't tell the difference between tanks

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visual recognition is a big deal

solid hinge
#

Well for tanks ofc

stoic breach
#

Thats a good point as well

dense bone
#

so should we suggest having massive weapons to show what weapons they use?

solid hinge
#

The only time I’ve been confused by an outfit is when playing as a German and a British dude has a black jacket with a cap takes me a second to real side it’s not a German

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Because tanks have actual differences

midnight nimbus
#

it doesn't have to be massive weapons

solid hinge
#

When it comes to tank combat

midnight nimbus
#

there are other visual cues

#

BF1 does this well too

stoic breach
#

If Titanfall 2 can have class recognition for fast moving players then Battlefield can have it too

midnight nimbus
#

the way players hold shotguns vs SMGs is very distinct

dense bone
#

idk, id say get to near pro level before wanting something so miniscule and claim it as vital

solid hinge
#

TF2 is an arena shooter thoo

#

Entirely different game

stoic breach
#

Its the same concept of player classes

midnight nimbus
#

obviously it depends on what kind of player you are

solid hinge
#

and tbh you cant even rly tell them apart from far either

#

Support classes always waddle

#

Just shoot to kill

stoic breach
#

You can

midnight nimbus
#

ik you like you rush everything, so it doesn't matter to you

stoic breach
#

You can tell a cloak apart from a grapple

solid hinge
#

Well thats cuz of the size

stoic breach
#

Its exaggerated more in Titanfall 2 but its the same theory

midnight nimbus
#

but I don't have insane reflexes, I'd rather play smart than fast

dense bone
#

ive not once cared what class someone is.. and im top 1% on a per minute basis for almost every single stat...

solid hinge
#

playing “smart”

#

Please elaborate

#

Inb4 someone says bfv is not a RnG game like COD LUL

midnight nimbus
#

as infy, you ultimately have 3 things in your arsenal

#

your gun, your movement, and your gadgets

#

class recognition helps you choose which of these to use

solid hinge
#

How

dense bone
#

helps, but is miniscule

midnight nimbus
#

I'm not gonna try to get up close with SMG users

#

I'm gonna PIAT them

solid hinge
#

I think youre overthinking

#

Just fucking

#

Shoot the geeza

#

Rocket against medics? Picard

stoic breach
#

Its not overthinking, its like he said, depth in gameplay

midnight nimbus
#

but PIATing is the smarter and easier play

dense bone
#

unecessary depth

solid hinge
#

No

midnight nimbus
#

why do I want to choose the hard way out

stoic breach
#

Its not that unnecessary

midnight nimbus
#

that's just dumb

solid hinge
#

Like I can go 30-0 in games

#

Using a piat is just overkill

stoic breach
#

Its subtle but helps if you understand what it is

solid hinge
#

And I dont give a shit about class recognition

#

So

#

Maybe it only helps players of lower skill?

dense bone
#

but ive got the skills/stats i do and i dont pay a single attention at all to what class they are..

#

so what does that say?

midnight nimbus
#

if i have an SMG and they have an SLR, I'm not gonna try to engage at 50m

stoic breach
#

Lower skill players dont care about it because they're low skill

solid hinge
#

Bfv is noob friendly enough as it is

midnight nimbus
#

I'll smoke and get closer

solid hinge
#

You can though

#

At least I can

#

Am I at a disadvantage?

#

Yes

dense bone
#

so im top skill, and idc about it

midnight nimbus
#

you can get very far with mechanical skill alone, yes

solid hinge
#

But If I hit my shots I can win

formal valve
#

“Suppressed Carbine”

solid hinge
#

Comes down to skill

formal valve
midnight nimbus
#

aim and reflexes are certainly part of it

dense bone
#

a huge part

#

90%

midnight nimbus
#

but they're not everything

solid hinge
#

Prolly even more

midnight nimbus
#

they're much less than 90%

dense bone
#

knowing which class they are is 1% or less

formal valve
#

Lmao the Commando Carbine is suppressed but it sounded like a mini shotgun irlOMEGALUL

solid hinge
#

This game pretty much doesnt have anything outside of your reaction time and situational awarness

midnight nimbus
#

you can aim very well, but there's plenty of counters to it

stoic breach
#

Class recognition is a part of situational awareness

#

Its player engagement situation

solid hinge
#

Plenty of counters to aiming well?

midnight nimbus
#

if people are chasing me up close and I have a Bren, I'm not gonna turn around and engage

solid hinge
#

If I’m a medic and a dude has a sniper just rush them and zig zag half the recons in this game can’t snipe worth shit

formal valve
#

I get muted for 12 hours and you guys are STILL talking about gun skills?

solid hinge
#

Only counter I can think of is aiming even better

#

Lol

midnight nimbus
#

I'm gonna lay down AP mines and keep running

solid hinge
#

lay down ap mines?

#

Youre dead mate

midnight nimbus
#

works well 🤷🏼‍♀️

dense bone
#

unless they are "chasing" from 30m away

solid hinge
#

AP mines on resupply zones Picard

#

Against idiots probably yeah

midnight nimbus
#

as R6S plats love to say

dense bone
#

at which point you should have just shot them..

midnight nimbus
#

all aim and no brain only gets you so far

dense bone
#

but bfv isnt r6...

stoic breach
#

Haha

midnight nimbus
#

concept applies

solid hinge
#

R6 is a whole different game lmao

dense bone
#

not 1:1

wind pendant
#

all aim no brain gets you to top of players in score in bfv

dense bone
#

becuase i play pretty fucking braindead in bfv, and i stomp

solid hinge
#

Comparing apples to oranges here

stoic breach
#

The difference between an Assault and a medic is the difference between an attacker and a defender

wind pendant
#

though not necessarily in firestorm

stoic breach
#

Assault rifle vs smg

midnight nimbus
#

there's plenty of ways to top a scoreboard that don't involve being good at aiming

solid hinge
#

It doesnt matter at all what class they are when they are in your sights and you fire first

dense bone
#

i can think of so many things more important than knowing what class the enemy is

wind pendant
#

you can still make up that difference if the other player is mediocre or worse

#

as long as you land 1-2 shots on head

stoic breach
#

Seeing them first is just peaker advantage

#

You'll also be the one getting aimed at first

dense bone
#

seriously, if i was coaching someone on the game, i wouldnt even think of telling them to worry about what classes individuals are

solid hinge
#

Only situation I can think of where it matters is when you kill a recon at the outskirts of a map

stoic breach
#

Its not always gonna be the ideal situation

solid hinge
#

But then again them having a bolt action rifle or a pistol in their hand kinda gives away their class

midnight nimbus
#

again, class recognition mattered more in previous games

solid hinge
#

Not really

stoic breach
#

It did

dense bone
#

did good in those too..

solid hinge
#

Not for me

dense bone
#

never cared about it

midnight nimbus
#

engineer vs medic in BF4, medic runs into cover

#

I'm not gonna chase them

solid hinge
#

Thats not how it works

midnight nimbus
#

SMAW time

soft storm
#

Holy shit Grind actually might be good

solid hinge
#

How do you run to cover

dense bone
#

but it could matter more, which still means its pretty meaningless knowledge

solid hinge
#

When youre dead

formal valve
#

Who actually runs into a guy in CQC and thinks, hmm, what class is he? Instead of blasting his head off?

solid hinge
#

Literally

dense bone
#

^^

midnight nimbus
#

not every engagement is CQB

solid hinge
#

Is this a scenario where two people playing with a fucking wii mote are facing off

formal valve
#

No shit

dense bone
#

im gonna say worrying about class is going to actively take away from you just killing them

midnight nimbus
#

especially since I'm a fan of avoiding CQB

formal valve
#

Same with me, I’m a sniper most of the time

solid hinge
#

Lets say it is an open engagement

#

I miss a couple shots

formal valve
#

Not afraid to get my hands dirty tho

midnight nimbus
#

class recognition primarily applies when you wanna shoot them or just apply explosives

solid hinge
#

Dude jumps into a ditch

#

What do I do?

midnight nimbus
#

explosives

solid hinge
#

I dont ponder what class he is

#

I A toss a nade

formal valve
#

Melee his sss

scenic beacon
#

grenade

dense bone
#

so under a very specific scenario

solid hinge
#

Or B

#

Rush his ass

#

And usually a combo of the two

#

It doesnt matter if its a medic

#

It doesnt matter if its a support

dense bone
#

ill just say this, anyone trying to get better, dont care about class recognition, you can get to top 1% without ever worrying about it

solid hinge
#

I got the advantage

midnight nimbus
#

if you don't have explosives, the range you wanna engage him at matters depending on class

dense bone
#

theres 50 other things i will tell you to work on first

solid hinge
#

Why do you need explosives so much

#

Use your gun

#

Why do you need explosives so much

midnight nimbus
#

guns in BF are overrated

dense bone
#

if getting to top 1% without worrying about classes at all doesnt tell you something, then idk what to tell you

midnight nimbus
#

class recognition play was great in BF1 too

formal valve
#

If it’s an enemy just shoot them

scenic beacon
#

Just always prepare to fight an assault or support, the rest is just a pleasant surprise

midnight nimbus
#

should i use my SLR or Auto Revolver on them

dense bone
#

was top 1% in that game too, didnt care about classes then thier

formal valve
#

Auto revolver 😫

solid hinge
#

I think the takeaway from this is that class recognition helps lower skilled players

stoic breach
#

What about the situation where you're at 10 health in cover at a disadvantage and someone rounds the corner holding his gun at his hip, are you gonna assume its a bolt action or a shotgun

solid hinge
#

And im not saying theres anything wrong with that

midnight nimbus
#

I think you have a very narrow definition of skill

formal valve
#

Just don’t spawn in lmao

#

Then you won’t die

solid hinge
#

I think youre over selling yourself a little

dense bone
#

class recognition helps, but a very very very very very fucking miniscule amount

solid hinge
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Literally a couple msgs away from bringing in iq

midnight nimbus
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there's more to skill than shooting things well

formal valve
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Just don’t SpAwn

midnight nimbus
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and there's more ways to improve than getting better at shooting

solid hinge
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Like what

scenic beacon
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Only important thing to take in is if they have an automatic or not class-wise. the rest doesn't matter

solid hinge
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Tossing tnt from a ditch?

midnight nimbus
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positioning, what tools to use

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etc.

solid hinge
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Well obv

stoic breach
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Depth in gameplay can never be unnecessary

solid hinge
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Thats basic stuff

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You use those with your good aim

dense bone
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it is when that depth isnt free dev time

solid hinge
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and situtafional awarness

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To outplay ppl

midnight nimbus
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and I'm not even someone with bad aim

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I have fairly good aim by all means

solid hinge
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Seems to me you are

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Because youre constantly referring to people running behind cover

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And you using explosives

midnight nimbus
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I was an AL8 35 guy in BF1

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can't really get away with that if you have bad aim

solid hinge
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I cant even remember what gun that is

midnight nimbus
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aim just isn't your only tool as a player

solid hinge
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Ofc it isnt your only tool nobody is arguing it is

formal valve
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Imagine only caring about skill in a battlefield game

solid hinge
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But in this game specifically it plays the biggest role

midnight nimbus
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shit, my most used gun in BFV is the AG m/42, which is hardly a gun that's good with sloppy aim

solid hinge
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Bruhh

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Semi autos are hella good with shit aim

formal valve
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Ew semi autos

stoic breach
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Not the AG

midnight nimbus
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AG m/42 is the headshot cannon

solid hinge
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Just spam those 10 rounds at their chest

formal valve
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Kar98K is a headshot cannon

solid hinge
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Love the k98

midnight nimbus
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I play it for those headshots