battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

the problem with bf1 aa was that is mostly screwed over the bombers

[idle breach]

we would think oh, having a bomber is cool

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 AA had worse range than BFV ones

iirc

[idle breach]

somebody is watching over me

[solid hinge]

dont think so

[idle breach]

in this game having air superiority means shit

it should be feel like

oh there is somebody watching over me

[midnight nimbus]

and BFV AA gets velocity bonus from firing upwards

[solid hinge]

bf1 aa could reach sky ceiling

[trim token]

Nope, bf1 reaches from the enemy’s spawn to the other spawn and also reached the height cap

[midnight nimbus]

no it couldn't

[solid hinge]

it absolutely coul

[midnight nimbus]

you could fly over it

[trim token]

Yes, it could

[midnight nimbus]

just like AA in every BF game

[idle breach]

I forgot bf1..

never played since bfv released

[solid hinge]

they buffed it after some time

[idle breach]

was it

AHA! game?

[midnight nimbus]

and BF1 AA's horizontal range wasn't all that

[solid hinge]

i think it goes 450m up and 300m horizontally

dont quote me on that lol

[idle breach]

turkish soldiers shouting AHA game right?

[solid hinge]

yes

AHA

[idle breach]

okay

BF1 is turkish shouting AHA game

I missed out several titles

BF2 was like

[solid hinge]

they also said

[idle breach]

schukreb

game

[solid hinge]

mihimat ihitiyac immat

shukran?

[midnight nimbus]

I think BF1 AA was like 335m or something

[idle breach]

maybe

I will remembr BFV as

german soldiers keep shouting me after kill me

'THOT'

[solid hinge]

TOT

[idle breach]

still not getting it

yeah

THOT!

they said

not sure, why they shouting that

[trim token]

Firestorm hackers are my favourite..

[solid hinge]

ZUR HÖLLE MIT EUCH

[trim token]

This guy had 33 kills and 220 wins..

[idle breach]

and random pickup line during warmup

[solid hinge]

he's probably just really good at hiding in pushes

bushes*

[idle breach]

he must be wearing ruvido pants

[trim token]

[solid hinge]

Having air superiority has lost me matches because we dont have those extra people on the ground

bring back ilya muromets

which is annoying

and firestorm bomber

Area denial bombs pls

area denial aa too

[idle breach]

smoke grenade to WP grenade please

[solid hinge]

area denial tanks

VEHICLES THAT WORK

[midnight nimbus]

iirc Ju-88 is better than illya

[idle breach]

and please dice

at least

explain why 38t has

LOTS of seats

[solid hinge]

ilya could 3d spot

[idle breach]

like

why is 38t being a fucking public transport????

[midnight nimbus]

you don't need to 3D spot in the Ju

[trim token]

Why is the tiger only a 3 seater?

[solid hinge]

true lol

[midnight nimbus]

why do you need more than 1 seat in the Tiger?

[idle breach]

they don't even added the mg model

[trim token]

You don’t but still

[idle breach]

it just shoots from window

[solid hinge]

for two machine guns

[idle breach]

like wtf?

[midnight nimbus]

why do you need two machine gunners

extra tank gunners are useless

[trim token]

Tiger needs a buff

[solid hinge]

to hit people far away

[idle breach]

it's goddamn commuter

[solid hinge]

all tanks need buffs

[midnight nimbus]

that's what you have cannons for

[idle breach]

and thing I learned from bfv

[trim token]

especially AA

[solid hinge]

especially aa

[idle breach]

people love roadster

[solid hinge]

Cannon has sizable reload time

needs to actually

yknow

anti air

[idle breach]

people really loves roadsters

[midnight nimbus]

yes gimme more Valentine AA power

road to 10 K/D

[idle breach]

you could ride in a perfect bulletproof seat

[solid hinge]

boost AA AA ability

[idle breach]

why do you keep jumping on my tank

[solid hinge]

instead of tickle planes for 50 damage meanwhile even a fucking stuka b1 can one pass a tank

[idle breach]

and get DEAD

why people love riding on top of a tank so much

[midnight nimbus]

BFV tanks are in this bad place where they aren't good enough, but counters to them aren't good enough

I'm unstoppable when I tank camp

[idle breach]

I'm pretty sure if dice add kangaroo

[solid hinge]

that's only when you're sniping

[idle breach]

people still won't get in the kangaroo

[solid hinge]

otherwise in close range there's counters for days

[midnight nimbus]

easy 50-60+ kill, 0 death games

[idle breach]

they would just jump on top of it

[midnight nimbus]

that's because tanks aren't good enough to play aggressively

so why not camp

[solid hinge]

that's what i cant stand

[idle breach]

there is a tank can play aggressively

[solid hinge]

tanks should be for PUSHING

[midnight nimbus]

there's no incentive for me to not tank camp

[idle breach]

STAG with rocket

[solid hinge]

and supporting infantry ptfoing

not be super recon

[midnight nimbus]

even on light tanks, the turret turn rate cucks you up close

[solid hinge]

that's all it does

[midnight nimbus]

I love playing Valentine Archer super recon

[idle breach]

hit and run

[midnight nimbus]

with the spotting scope

[idle breach]

oh

[solid hinge]

it's a love letter to recon campers

[idle breach]

i love playing stug

[midnight nimbus]

it's like recon camping, but it's actually effective

[idle breach]

german moving castle

[midnight nimbus]

stug is gross

[solid hinge]

precisely

[trim token]

Can we get the Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf. B? Or just KonigsTiger

[midnight nimbus]

German tanks suck in general, aside from Pz4

[idle breach]

Tiger II?

who needs Tiger II

just

take off the turret of tiger and

put 4 remote Mg

MG

it would delete everything

[solid hinge]

the worst thing is when you're tanking and the only nearby resupply station is like a 100m away

just sooo fucking mundane and boring

[midnight nimbus]

delet attrition

[idle breach]

delet infy

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 ammo pool pls

[trim token]

What about the Fv4005

[solid hinge]

the least they could do is nerf it for tanks

give us more ammo

[idle breach]

we have enough neckless tank

[midnight nimbus]

no, there's just no reason to have attrition at all

just give us ammo pool

[idle breach]

we need multiple turret tank

M3 LEe

[trim token]

But it has a BIGGGGGGGGGGG GUN

[midnight nimbus]

tank splash damage is pretty meh too

[solid hinge]

it's deceptive as fuck lol

particle effect blast radius is HUGE

actual blast radius is tiny

[idle breach]

it's

a

flashbang launcher

[midnight nimbus]

the fact that most AP rounds require you to basically direct impact infy

[idle breach]

not a gun

hey i said don't think like a normal person

[solid hinge]

i'd see people be in the cloud and no damage be dealt

[idle breach]

it's not a cannon it's a flashbang launcher

[solid hinge]

FUCKS SAKE I HAVE 3 CONTROLLERS 10 LEADS ANS 5 PAIRS OF BATTERIES AND NONE PF THEM FUCKING WORK I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESLLY GOOD MATCH AND GOT KICKED FOR IDLING

lmao

[trim token]

Ok T35A then?

[solid hinge]

buy another one

[idle breach]

have you not heard of 88mm flashbang launcher

[solid hinge]

I DONT HAVE 50 POUNDS

[idle breach]

it was originally used for firing flashbang to allied plane

so allied pilots go blind and crash

[trim token]

@solid hinge atleast your caps lock works fine

[solid hinge]

50 pounds

pffft

[idle breach]

sticky bomb hitbox is still broken

[solid hinge]

YES BUT MY SMALL LOCKS DONT

a controller here is half a salary

[trim token]

Shame ful

[idle breach]

like

isn't it supposed to be

[trim token]

Might need a warn 😉

[idle breach]

stick on surfaces?

[solid hinge]

No

[idle breach]

am I being too normal again?

[solid hinge]

Have mercy

[idle breach]

is it stick to thrower?

so sticky bomb?

[solid hinge]

My small locks suddenly started working

this game is so boring

[trim token]

Lol

[solid hinge]

so many dull moments

[idle breach]

no it's so broken it's fun

[solid hinge]

bf1 was so broken it's fun

[idle breach]

even today

[solid hinge]

this game has sooo many dull moments

[idle breach]

I was fighting necromorphs in arras

[solid hinge]

conquest is depressing

[idle breach]

is that boring?

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 wasn't that broken

it's like the least broken modern BF

[idle breach]

necromorphs with rifles

call that boring

[gray glade]

BF1 operations was spamm AF 😄

[solid hinge]

what the fuck is a necromorph

[midnight nimbus]

BFV being broken as shit is the only thing that makes it fun for me

[gray glade]

the spam in bf1 was amazing

[idle breach]

the monsters from dead space

[solid hinge]

bfv is broken but not in a good way imo

[midnight nimbus]

have you tried the spam in BFV

[solid hinge]

maybe it's because i dont play assault?

[idle breach]

ruvido wearing dark templars

[midnight nimbus]

you can output explosives at a rate you can only dream of in BF1

[weak violet]

Sup

[idle breach]

teleporting enemies

[solid hinge]

yes lmao assault explosive spam is ridiculous

[idle breach]

people crawing out of grounds

[midnight nimbus]

if you're an assault camping an ammo resupply, you can output a constant stream of explosives

[idle breach]

flashbang throwing tanks

[solid hinge]

yeah ik that

i've witnessed it but couldnt stomach doing it myself

[midnight nimbus]

I locked down second sector B flag on Devastation BT the other day by myself

just sitting off the obj near the ammo depot

[solid hinge]

also is it just me

[midnight nimbus]

constantly shooting PIAT and frag nade launcher

[solid hinge]

or are the assault gadgets in this game really fucking lethal compared to bf1?

[idle breach]

it's fucking lethal

[solid hinge]

the frag launcher wasnt anywhere near this good

[idle breach]

dice should change something

like

[midnight nimbus]

by the time you dump 3 PIATs and 2 nade launchers, you can resupply again

[idle breach]

making frag launcher primary weapon

[solid hinge]

the piat is cancer

[midnight nimbus]

PIAT is 👌👌👌

[idle breach]

assault? more like a demoman from TF2

[solid hinge]

always love it when im locking down a place as support and get randomly fucking TSAR BOMBAd by tha tthing

[midnight nimbus]

the issue is that frag nade launcher shouldn't be on assault

that simple

it should be on medic

[solid hinge]

i was shocked when i realized it wasn't for medic

[midnight nimbus]

along with AT pistol

[solid hinge]

like ???

[idle breach]

or recon?

I mean

[midnight nimbus]

no, recon should have AT rifles

[idle breach]

recon

is

recon. not sniper

[midnight nimbus]

for long range anti armor

[idle breach]

only

anyway

[trim token]

Nerf the frag launcher..

[idle breach]

uh

[midnight nimbus]

frag launcher is fine

[solid hinge]

recon also definitely needs something

[idle breach]

oh yeah

[midnight nimbus]

just on the wrong class

[idle breach]

the idea

that assault

[trim token]

Why does it do more damage then regular frags and explodes on impact

[idle breach]

carries whole set of SMLE

for firing frag round

[midnight nimbus]

it does less damage than regular frags

[idle breach]

is fucking ridiculous

[trim token]

No, it doesn’t

[idle breach]

yes it is

[solid hinge]

dk think it's a modified smle

[idle breach]

yeah

[solid hinge]

just for firing grenades

[idle breach]

I mean

[trim token]

It 1 tapped me in firestorm with heavy armour..

[idle breach]

WW2 grenadiers

[solid hinge]

firestorm balance is a bit different lol

[idle breach]

would equipped with rifle, grenade launcher and rifle grenade

[solid hinge]

sten for example is meh in the base game

[midnight nimbus]

frag grenade launcher literally does less damage and has a smaller radius than normal grenades

[solid hinge]

but in fs is a total beast

[idle breach]

it's ridiculous

[solid hinge]

different weapons and health system = different meta

[trim token]

Still OP

[idle breach]

in that logic

[trim token]

Lands nowhere near and 1 taps me always

[idle breach]

PIAT should added to melee weapon

used PIAT

or used panzerfaust

[midnight nimbus]

you have to get pretty close to one tap people with the frag grenade launcher

Panzerfaust needs a buff

[idle breach]

what kind of idiot carries a whole rifle for launching grenades only

[trim token]

Why can we not pistol whip people?

[solid hinge]

used panzerfaust needs to be melee

it should be its own class

[midnight nimbus]

it's a shortened SMLE

it's a lil boi

[solid hinge]

very slow swing, but ohk

[idle breach]

but there is already a AT pistol

[solid hinge]

like a trench raider club

[midnight nimbus]

yeah but AT pistol sucks

[solid hinge]

they don't feel like less damage than normal grenades

[midnight nimbus]

should be on medic anyways

[solid hinge]

[idle breach]

it's like carrying a panzerfaust only to fucking hit people with it

[solid hinge]

Fuuuuuuck

[idle breach]

oh

that's perfect for bfv

[trim token]

@solid hinge because it does more

[idle breach]

okay I'm cool with that

[stoic breach]

Frag rifle is still too easy to use

[solid hinge]

I can't play for a week I don't fuckinf have a controller

buy a new one

[idle breach]

oh I have an idea about will-coming bazooka

or panzer shrek

[solid hinge]

panzer shrek is actually coming i think

No I was just gonna fucking magically summon one using my necromatic powers

[midnight nimbus]

they're either gonna be bad PIATs or better PIATs

[idle breach]

should have straight trajectorryyyyyy

better damage

[solid hinge]

why isnt it already in this ww2 themed game?

even cod ww2 had it

[idle breach]

but soldier is too stupid so shoot backwards

it's backward weapon

[midnight nimbus]

we don't need more dumbfire anti tank launchers

[trim token]

Can we have the tigers 88mm as a melee weapon?

[idle breach]

but it's goddamn strong

[midnight nimbus]

we need Fliegerfaust

so infy can do something about planes

[solid hinge]

ooooooooh yeah

remember the aa rocket gun

[idle breach]

ohyeah

[solid hinge]

oh man that thing did WORK on that bastard attack plane

[idle breach]

I've seen that on

MENU only.

never used that

[solid hinge]

it was fucking great

[stoic breach]

I never saw anyone use the AA

[solid hinge]

it would be really nice to be able to have effective infantry AA

[midnight nimbus]

AA rocket gun sucks for the same reason why BFV MMGs suck against planes

requires bipod

so you can't get good angles

[idle breach]

how about

squad reinforcement

[solid hinge]

yeah but when you do it's fucking great

[idle breach]

airdrop AA?

[midnight nimbus]

Fliegerfaust solves this

[solid hinge]

bipod vs aircraft is silly

[idle breach]

AIRDROP AA please

[solid hinge]

if you had one half decent aa also working with you, you'd just MELT planes

or 2 aa rocket guns

[stoic breach]

It should just be a support gadget

Or assault

[solid hinge]

but even on its own i'd say it's better than all of the aa in this game

[midnight nimbus]

no, Fliegerfaust for assault

[idle breach]

don't give assault all the candy

[solid hinge]

I'd enjoy it on support

it fits assault better though

[midnight nimbus]

move nade launcher and AT pistol to medic

[stoic breach]

Assault should be anti-vehicle but its anti-everything right now

[idle breach]

hey support should focus on supporting

[midnight nimbus]

remove AT mines from assault

it should be support only

[idle breach]

give them some

[midnight nimbus]

and give recon an AT rifle

[idle breach]

trumpet

to support morale

[stoic breach]

Recon get da tankgewehr

😩

[solid hinge]

were k bullets used in ww2?

[midnight nimbus]

now everyone has their own anti vehicle tools that are unique and fit class archetypes

[idle breach]

don't think so

[solid hinge]

they were probably ineffective by that time

[idle breach]

closest thing was

[solid hinge]

but who cares

[idle breach]

polish? czech AT rifle

[stoic breach]

Watch assault get the boys rifle

[solid hinge]

this game has the fucking selbslader 1906 for fucks sake

[idle breach]

used modified rifle rounds

but not exactly K round

recon should get

radio

and

effect is

[solid hinge]

I was in the middle of a good fucking game when BOTH of my controllers just stopped fucking working

can you unequip the spawn beacon as recon but retain the current beacon that's placed?

hey granddad tell me about the selbslader 1906

[idle breach]

only recon can get VOIP to all teammates

because recon

[solid hinge]

selbs-what?

[idle breach]

recon is in charge of seeing thing and telling them to others

becaus it's how recon works

[stoic breach]

I wish recon was good

[idle breach]

super VOIP for recon.

[solid hinge]

it's good

only if you snipe

[stoic breach]

I wish dice werent wishy washy about their class archetypes

[solid hinge]

otherwise fug off and pick another class

[idle breach]

yeah like

[solid hinge]

only if you snipe

[idle breach]

it's like dice thinking

[midnight nimbus]

add two AT rifles:
Panzerbüchse 39 for Germans, which is high velocity, better against planes
Boys .55 for Brits, which is lower velocity, higher caliber, better against tanks

[idle breach]

recon units are all snipers

[solid hinge]

if you snipe decently i mean

what are you suggesting

[stoic breach]

Thats a good idea

[solid hinge]

Recon is most useful when flare spamming

[stoic breach]

Oh my fucking god

[solid hinge]

oh yeah i mean like

[idle breach]

recon

is just

flareslave now

[stoic breach]

Out of literally any word to be auto deleted

[solid hinge]

staying behind enemy lines in cover

yes!

agreed

flares are great

[midnight nimbus]

AT rifles to actually make recon useful pls

so they don't have to just stand there and do nothing when vehicles come

[stoic breach]

Kht how much of Battlefront 2017 have you played

[solid hinge]

I think flare gun is like.. my 6th most fired weapon

[midnight nimbus]

a bit

not much

[stoic breach]

Cause if you think anti-tank in Battlefield V sucks

[midnight nimbus]

played through alpha/beta a lot, but not much after launch

[stoic breach]

Oh man

[midnight nimbus]

was gifted it

[stoic breach]

Yea

[midnight nimbus]

oh yeah, Battlefront is even worse

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

remember how in bf4

[gray glade]

i dont think AT rifles would work well balance wise for BFV, not as well as they did in BF1

[solid hinge]

you could play true aggressive recon

[stoic breach]

Heavy gets a rocket launcher star card

[midnight nimbus]

in BF4, everyone could do something about tanks

[solid hinge]

because you could have a carbine or shotgun

[gray glade]

i see AT rifles being overpowered in BFV if ever introduced

[stoic breach]

And the only other rocket launcher is the jet trooper

[solid hinge]

recon with mtar mmmm oh yeah

@stoic breach sniper has the best anti vehicle in battlefront

long live sniper

[midnight nimbus]

I think AT rifles wouldn't be hard to balance

[idle breach]

whayt

why

[stoic breach]

What is that

The anti vehicle

[idle breach]

sniper has the best anti vehicle?

[stoic breach]

That it has

[idle breach]

I never played new battlefront

only old battlefront 2

[solid hinge]

they get an ion attachment on their last gun that does colossal damage to vehicles and adds splash damage

[idle breach]

what kinda balance is that

[stoic breach]

Old battlefront 2 is almost perfect but some gameplay is outdated now

[idle breach]

waht other classes do then

[carmine eagle]

I was on BF4 yesterday and got a SUAV kill on a helicopter passenger

[idle breach]

twillek dancing around?

being cute ewok?

[solid hinge]

heavy gets rocket star cards but they use up a star card slot while that's the best weapon for sniper along with great anti vehicle capability

[stoic breach]

400 specialist kills to unlock anti-vehicle

[carmine eagle]

Cannibal midget bears

[midnight nimbus]

at least Battlefront has unlimited ammo

[idle breach]

uh

[midnight nimbus]

unironically more balanced than limited ammo

[idle breach]

is ewok cannibal?

[stoic breach]

I miss gonk droids though

[carmine eagle]

Sometimes

[idle breach]

how the fuck

like

something can be

'sometimes cannibal'

[stoic breach]

Battlefield V attrition is literally gonk and med droids with cooldowns

[idle breach]

it's not like part time job

[midnight nimbus]

there is no attrition

[solid hinge]

moving the vehicles in battlefront feels even worse than bouncy tanks in bfv though

[midnight nimbus]

only based cooldowns

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[carmine eagle]

They live in tribes and kill each other, one side takes back the corpses and eats them

[midnight nimbus]

cooldowns are the future

[idle breach]

oh

so it's

[stoic breach]

Dogfighting is so shit in BF2017

[idle breach]

it's just cannibal..

[carmine eagle]

Yes

[midnight nimbus]

BFV putting everything on the same cooldown is brainlet af

[stoic breach]

I would rather the flying bricks of BFV

[shrewd grove]

The ammo in the original battlefront was always super plentiful so it wasn't often you ran out of ammo unless you got the special gun for 20 kills in a life

[idle breach]

ewww

I'm gonna support empire from now

[solid hinge]

yes the cooldowns in this game lol

[idle breach]

sorry no cannibal allowed

[carmine eagle]

You weren’t already a supporter?

[solid hinge]

why the fuck do the blenheim 50 lb bombs have the same cooldown as the 4000lb?

[idle breach]

no

[solid hinge]

heavy running around with 15 rockets in original bf2

good memories

[midnight nimbus]

exactly

[idle breach]

I don't like empire

[midnight nimbus]

attrition creates more problems

solves nothing

why is pistol ammo on the same cooldown as the PIAT

[solid hinge]

it's their marketing ploy

[stoic breach]

Its wacky

[carmine eagle]

Well

[idle breach]

but still better than cannibals I think

[solid hinge]

instead of behemoths or levolution

we get this fucking shit

[stoic breach]

Its for the physicality of it

[solid hinge]

tfw you can get a piat from the ammo crate but not a shitty hand grenade

[stoic breach]

Behemoths sucked

[midnight nimbus]

physicality is the worst meme ever

[idle breach]

I liked behemoths

[shrewd grove]

Well we would have gotten archetypes if people weren't babies about it

[solid hinge]

I want the garrotte so badly

at least behemoths were fun

I've been dreaming about it

[idle breach]

I want

[solid hinge]

at least elites were fun

[idle breach]

brass knuckles

[solid hinge]

attrition isnt fun

[stoic breach]

The parkour animations need to be sped up

[idle breach]

am I the only one want brass knuckles

[solid hinge]

i LOVED going on streaks as a trench raider

[stoic breach]

Theres so much downtime on animations its stupid

[carmine eagle]

Can we not have microtransactions like we were promised?

[solid hinge]

you remember the original long vault animation?

i LOVED picking people apart with the char 2c

[stoic breach]

When did they promise that

[idle breach]

hey bfv microtransactions are great

[midnight nimbus]

attrition, animations, and visibility: the unholy trifecta of BFV

[carmine eagle]

Before launch

[solid hinge]

10 seconds of climbing

[idle breach]

this is the greatest microaction I've ever seen on any video games

[solid hinge]

it's hilariously underwhelming when you think about it

[stoic breach]

Can BFV just increase brightness in dark areas

[solid hinge]

it's not like bf1 was terribly balanced

[stoic breach]

Phantom lights

[idle breach]

microtransaction

[midnight nimbus]

animations should be fast and as unobtrusive as possible

[solid hinge]

why cant they just stuck with good old fashioned chaotic fun

[carmine eagle]

[midnight nimbus]

like Titanfall

[idle breach]

I bought boins

and

I'm already out of things to buy

[gray glade]

so much negativity here

[idle breach]

I feel like I'm fucking rich

[stoic breach]

Titanfall is just great in every way

[idle breach]

no game have ever made me feel this way

bfv is the best

[midnight nimbus]

titanfall was too difficult for normies

[solid hinge]

do you have die sturm jager

eagerly awaiting respawn

[idle breach]

that

blue scarf

[midnight nimbus]

TF1 unironically has better infy-vehicle balance than any BF game

[idle breach]

with illusionist modified thing? yes

[solid hinge]

if you dont have die sturm jager then dont even talk to me

[stoic breach]

Its on sale every month so I always convince more people to buy it so I can bully them with Kraber

[solid hinge]

titan rodeoing was sublime

[idle breach]

I RAN OUT OF THINGS TO BUY

[stoic breach]

Titanfall 2

And yes

It does have good infantry balance

[solid hinge]

experiment you should buy die sturm jager outfit in real life

[midnight nimbus]

TF2 titan-infy balance was kinda whack compared to TF1

[solid hinge]

like a real sturm jager

smart pistol was a bit unbalanced though

[midnight nimbus]

only in TF1

[idle breach]

huh?

no

it says

[stoic breach]

Fucking Tonefall splash damage

[idle breach]

DIE sturm jager

it's clearly

[solid hinge]

yes

Titans were different in tf2 but I liked the unbalancedness of them

[idle breach]

anti- sturm jager sentence

[stoic breach]

Tone is just the bane of my entire existence

[solid hinge]

Apart from tone

like a real die sturm jager

fuck tone

[idle breach]

yeah I have that ingame so

if I be sturm jager

[stoic breach]

They nerfed Tone barely

[idle breach]

I'm not following my choices

[stoic breach]

But with two Tones its impossible to win

[idle breach]

I should kill the sturm jagers

[solid hinge]

kill all die sturm jagers

[idle breach]

shouting DIE! sturm jager

[solid hinge]

tone is the only support titan but it's the best anti infy too

[idle breach]

DIE! you sturm jager

whatever that means

[stoic breach]

Titanfall 2 smart pistol is dumb as well

[solid hinge]

and it has the best shield in the game

idk what a jager is

[idle breach]

yeah

[solid hinge]

but ik what jäger is

At least tf2 smart pistol disappears on death

[idle breach]

but before they fixed it

it was jager

[solid hinge]

THEY FIXED IT

And limited mag

[idle breach]

so nobody know what that is

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats the only good part

[solid hinge]

WHAT

THERE'S NO MORE DIE STURM JAGER

[idle breach]

they betrayed the jager

[solid hinge]

??

[idle breach]

yeah

[solid hinge]

What the fuck it's not my controller that doesn't work it's my fucking xbox

ICH BIN SO VERRATEN

[idle breach]

so its'... no longer your xbox..?

[solid hinge]

VON DEM ANFANG

[stoic breach]

Tone would be great if it's ADS had no splash but increased critical damage

And tracking rockets did less damage

[solid hinge]

wait no

[midnight nimbus]

splash is kinda necessary with TF movement

[idle breach]

anyway

[solid hinge]

from the beginning is von anfang an

stupid german

[idle breach]

what is sturm jager supposed to mean

[stoic breach]

Splash for un-aimed fire

[solid hinge]

storm hunter

[stoic breach]

Then it acts as an alt-fire

[idle breach]

so..

it means

meteorologist.

[solid hinge]

he hunts storms

[midnight nimbus]

eh i don't see the difference between aimed and unaimed

[idle breach]

yeah

[solid hinge]

he hunts storms and sells their meat for money

[midnight nimbus]

but alt-fire is always cool

[stoic breach]

Aimed would be for precision so its basically Northstar-lite

Yeah

[idle breach]

oh?

[stoic breach]

Like Ion

[idle breach]

I thought that

remember that movie?

the scientist or whatever

following the

tornado

[solid hinge]

i cant say i do

[stoic breach]

Is that Twister

[idle breach]

for...science reason

yeah twister

that's the sturm jager

[midnight nimbus]

I honestly think BF SMGs need insane hipfire like TF guns

[solid hinge]

tone had ridiculously good primary fire for infantry killing

[idle breach]

uh

[solid hinge]

remember the mp18 in bf1

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[idle breach]

do germany have storms?

[solid hinge]

port the Car into bfv

now that was good ass hipfire

[idle breach]

I mean like

hurricane thing

[midnight nimbus]

BFV SMGs have better hipfire than BF1 ones

[stoic breach]

Smgs need even more buff

[solid hinge]

what does a storm carcass look like

[idle breach]

tropical low pressure

[stoic breach]

Wow nice

That was definitely a wise move

[midnight nimbus]

BFV SMGs need even better hipfire

[idle breach]

whatthefuck

[fathom pebble]

!ban 428913404120662026 posting nsfw links

[junior mist]

:ok_hand: banned GermanReh#0442 (posting nsfw links)

[solid hinge]

flex

[stoic breach]

What do you think about the current SMG damage model

[idle breach]

I'm fine

[solid hinge]

now that i think about it, yeah

[idle breach]

but I can use some variety

[midnight nimbus]

current SMG damage model is largely fine

[idle breach]

only rof and accuracy/mag is boring

[solid hinge]

emp hipfire is beast

it's the same for all smgs, right?

[idle breach]

no

actually

[stoic breach]

Yeah, I didnt know what I thought of it

[midnight nimbus]

4BTK range for autos needs to be upped to 15m

[solid hinge]

the mp34 deserves a better model

[midnight nimbus]

universally

[idle breach]

MP34 has slightly better damage drop

but the alpha damage is same

[solid hinge]

it should have better damage

[idle breach]

or at least MORE accurate

[solid hinge]

for sure

[midnight nimbus]

MP34 should be changed to 3-6 BTK, and the current MP34 damage model should be given to all other SMGs

[idle breach]

and thompson should havbe

crazy recoil

[midnight nimbus]

make the MP34 RSC SMG-esque

[idle breach]

like

damage is good

damage drop is bad

[solid hinge]

it would be broken with upgrades through

[idle breach]

recoil is horrible

[solid hinge]

they should just add a new rsc like smg

[idle breach]

so horrible

[midnight nimbus]

drop the MP34 RoF

[stoic breach]

What if SMGs in BFV could get gunrunner like in Titanfall

I just wanna see that happen

[idle breach]

if you fire straight 30 round you end up being in next server recoil

[midnight nimbus]

so you have 450 RPM 32 rounds or 514 RPM 20 rounds

[solid hinge]

tfw no 3x scope for my gun runner smg

yeah they should just add a new smg

we need more weapons anyways

[idle breach]

yeah

which smg would you like

[midnight nimbus]

new SMGs add nothing

[solid hinge]

we're getting the commando though

fuck YEAH BABY

[midnight nimbus]

the Commando Carbine is just

[idle breach]

after the commando

[midnight nimbus]

so bad

[idle breach]

I

[stoic breach]

I have never once used gunrunner on anything

[solid hinge]

make slings and swivels so you can shoot while printing

[idle breach]

I want mp5

can I have mp5?

[stoic breach]

I bhop everywhere

[solid hinge]

have you tried it

[midnight nimbus]

it's a bad slug shotgun

[stoic breach]

Slings and slaughter

[midnight nimbus]

with a scope

[idle breach]

why not mp5?

at least give me mp7 please

[solid hinge]

does the commando have a bayonet

[midnight nimbus]

no

[solid hinge]

FUCK

did you see its rof

[idle breach]

FUCK

[midnight nimbus]

actually lemme check

[solid hinge]

I was really hoping

[stoic breach]

Do you think the De Lisle should be a 1-shot like slugs then

[solid hinge]

[midnight nimbus]

they buffed the RoF from 45 RPM to 93 RPM

[idle breach]

that's not buff

[stoic breach]

Oofers

[idle breach]

that's goddamn rework

[solid hinge]

ooooh that sounds fucking great

[midnight nimbus]

so that's nice at least

[solid hinge]

I could live with it's below average stats if it had bayonet

[midnight nimbus]

it's still shitty

[idle breach]

why

[solid hinge]

that's almost as fast as the pump shotgun i think

[stoic breach]

I can just imagine on the spec tree they let you make it automatic

[idle breach]

bullet velocity?

[solid hinge]

bullet velocity is probably ass

[idle breach]

niche gun I guess

[solid hinge]

280m/s right?

[idle breach]

I want mp5 damn

[midnight nimbus]

no bayonet

[stoic breach]

It is subsonic isnt it

[idle breach]

MP5! MP5!

[solid hinge]

[idle breach]

give me MP5 HK mp5

[midnight nimbus]

and it's 330 m/s with fast bullets

[icy sluice]

I've seen people call it the best sniper apparently

[solid hinge]

why is it silenced

[idle breach]

we already have fucking MAS-44

[icy sluice]

Apparently

[solid hinge]

Why did they give a silenced gun to medic

if it's ass on the bolt rifles then imagine it on a carbine on elol

if it's ass on the bolt RIFLES then imagine it on a carbine

Why did they give a silenced CARBINE to medic

[idle breach]

no problem we having AK47

[stoic breach]

Medic needs gunrunner

[solid hinge]

What's the damn point

[stoic breach]

Dice needs to make it happen

[idle breach]

@solid hinge you serious?

[solid hinge]

they probably just wanted to give us some variety

[idle breach]

it's for stealing weapons

you pick up their weapon, revive them

[midnight nimbus]

it needs 50m 2BTK

then it'd be usable

[idle breach]

they ending up having commando carbine on their hands

[stoic breach]

I just want machine pistols for Recon

[solid hinge]

If you're medic why are you doing sick silenced back flanks

with a shit carbinr

[idle breach]

no you're not

you just

pick medic,

[solid hinge]

idk i love going on flanks with the sumoi

[idle breach]

pick up G43 and revive him

[solid hinge]

I refuse to take better weapons

[idle breach]

no it's not taking better weapons

[stoic breach]

Im sleeping on the Gewehr 43

[solid hinge]

You can actually flank with the suomi though

[stoic breach]

Its not fun to use

[idle breach]

it's giving shittier weapons

[solid hinge]

Try flanking with a shitter bolt action

[midnight nimbus]

the worst is when you're medic and the gun you pick up has shitty upgrades

but it's still better than an SMG

[idle breach]

or shitty skin

[solid hinge]

commando could be great for flanks

if you could nail every hs

[idle breach]

like

[midnight nimbus]

idc about skins

[idle breach]

1 pice of predator 2 piece gold 1 piece of urban blue

[midnight nimbus]

they don't even render properly with my settings

so I can't even tell

[stoic breach]

What upgrades are even on the De Lisle

[idle breach]

I can't understand that kind of people

[solid hinge]

you'd have to pull off headshots like a madman and you're also being a drag on your team by not doing regular medic duties

[idle breach]

I kick them

[solid hinge]

I pick ugly skins so people are forced to look at me when I bayonet them

[idle breach]

anybody without pretty gun or skin not allowed in my squad

[solid hinge]

STEEEEEEEEEEEEERBT

its flex upon flex

[stoic breach]

Isnt the Russian 1895 basically a carbine like the De Lisle

[solid hinge]

IHR SEID TOOOOOOOOOOT

[idle breach]

bayoneter are welcome

[stoic breach]

Russian Trench I mean

[midnight nimbus]

I forget

[swift condor]

Day 238 of ToW and I'm still not motivated

[solid hinge]

Are the trombone specs in the game yet?

[midnight nimbus]

but De Lisle has ok upgrades

[solid hinge]

russian 1895 was a carbine yeah

[idle breach]

oh wait

[solid hinge]

it fired faster

and had more range

[idle breach]

For whom the bell tolls?

Scottish play?

[solid hinge]

in a game with higher ttk

trombine

[idle breach]

why did I missed that

[midnight nimbus]

1895 Trench was actually good

[stoic breach]

When can I get my stupidly large Madsen mag taking up my screen

Good times

[solid hinge]

I forget the name it's trombone now

[idle breach]

are they naming skins after literature?

[stoic breach]

Tromboncheeto

[solid hinge]

it's more of a shitty carcano now

or maybe just a carcano

[midnight nimbus]

AR medic pls

[solid hinge]

Are any trombone stats in the files?

[midnight nimbus]

no

[solid hinge]

skree

[idle breach]

I want more pistol

[midnight nimbus]

don't expect it to be good

[idle breach]

at least give me PPK

or PP

[solid hinge]

one of the TOW assignments implied it had a built in nade launcher

[stoic breach]

Arent there M1917 Enfield stats

[midnight nimbus]

yeah

it's less shitty than other sniper rifles

[idle breach]

and who the fuck uses P08?

[solid hinge]

i can get behind a shit gimmicky weapon

[midnight nimbus]

probably the best bolt action in the game

[stoic breach]

It was said to be a grenade launcher on the EA website

[solid hinge]

Oh hows the m1917

does it have higher velocity

[formal valve]

The m1917 isn’t even in the game

[idle breach]

whats m1979

1917

[formal valve]

The Enfield

[solid hinge]

the same enfield in bf1?

[idle breach]

god dman please name guns some proper name

[stoic breach]

It's dogtags were still in the list

[formal valve]

The American variant of the P14 enfield

[idle breach]

bolt action enfield?

[formal valve]

YES

[solid hinge]

that they added in apocalypse

[formal valve]

[idle breach]

oh

[stoic breach]

Yankee enfield

[solid hinge]

that gun was amazing

[idle breach]

hmm

[solid hinge]

had so much fun withit

[idle breach]

I don't want no more bolt action

[midnight nimbus]

M1917 has the best spec tree of any bolt action

[stoic breach]

That plus rangefinder was a humiliation tool for me

[midnight nimbus]

but it's still a bolt action

[idle breach]

unless it has unique thing

[opaque cipher]

Remove recon

[formal valve]

It’s not in the game

[stoic breach]

Whats on it

[solid hinge]

does it get a bayonet

Why is it that in the mission of Under No flag where you destroy the Luftwaffe supplies, is destroying 2 things supposed to stop the entire airforce?

remove punished pow

[idle breach]

yeah remove recon

[formal valve]

@midnight nimbus shut up

[stoic breach]

I just want Enfield hype again

[formal valve]

It’s not in the game

[stoic breach]

Thats just aggressive

[midnight nimbus]

you can stack quick ADS with fast move and rapid fire

[stoic breach]

shiet

[idle breach]

is mas44 dead

[solid hinge]

oh no

[formal valve]

We are most likely getting the Carcano this ToW with the Italian weapons were getting

[midnight nimbus]

it has bayonet

[formal valve]

Which is a yay

@midnight nimbus shut up

[solid hinge]

does bayonet require replacing a good spec

[formal valve]

Stop baiting people

[solid hinge]

ihr seid tot

[stoic breach]

Carcano for medics

Yuh dab

[midnight nimbus]

and it has best in class velocity

[solid hinge]

750?

800?

[formal valve]

He’s lying

[midnight nimbus]

700, like Kar

[solid hinge]

its got 700 velocity and fast move?

[idle breach]

just give us AWP

[formal valve]

Don’t listen to him

[solid hinge]

wtf

[formal valve]

WHY ARE YOU GUYS LISTENING TO HIM?

The M1917 isn’t in the game

[solid hinge]

why aren't you?

[idle breach]

because I'm good listener

[solid hinge]

its in the files

[stoic breach]

Yeah M1917 Enfield used 30.06 so it should be an AWP

[solid hinge]

lots of stuff was datamined

[formal valve]

No shit

[stoic breach]

308

However the fuck

[formal valve]

[stoic breach]

Idk how it goes

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

[main grove]

Why the fuck is slings and swivels still a thing?

[opaque cipher]

You’re thinking of 338

[main grove]

It’s so bad

[opaque cipher]

Lapua magnum

[stoic breach]

Just add the Kraber in BFV and I will be happy

[main grove]

Boys anti tank rifle

[stoic breach]

Was I

[solid hinge]

because sometimes to get to a good upgrade you have to go through something useless

[stoic breach]

I think it was 30 aught 6

[opaque cipher]

Well AWP is chambered in 7.62 but they ditched it

[main grove]

Just buff the amount of speed it gives you

[formal valve]

Kraber?

[solid hinge]

nerf lightened stock and buff slings n swivels

[opaque cipher]

7.62 NATO is basically 308

[stoic breach]

Yeah man

[carmine eagle]

GRABABRUSHANDPUTONALITTLEMAKEUP

[main grove]

15% Increase is nothing

[formal valve]

Add the M1 carbine pls dice

[stoic breach]

The Kraber from Titanfall

[solid hinge]

slings is useful when you're sprinting

[stoic breach]

M1 carbine is the 4th assault weapon

[formal valve]

I want my M1 carbine

[solid hinge]

you can shoot basically instantly

[stoic breach]

[formal valve]

There isn’t a M1 carbine

There’s a M1A1

[main grove]

I kind of wish they were a bit more creative with the spec trees

[midnight nimbus]

slings and swivels should be default for SMGs

[formal valve]

Not a M1

[solid hinge]

and shotguns

[midnight nimbus]

^

[opaque cipher]

Sling and swivel on MMG

[solid hinge]

ads for mmg

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

[main grove]

Lightened stock on an MMG

[solid hinge]

i kept getting my ass beat by a slings fast rpm suomi with the shotgun cause he could instantly shoot

[formal valve]

The Volksturmgewehr is pretty good

[solid hinge]

no reason for shotgun not to have slings

[stoic breach]

Yes let MMGs ads but it literally shakes your screen so much you have to tap fire

[solid hinge]

no

[formal valve]

No

[solid hinge]

no recoil

[stoic breach]

Then it becomes support DMR

[formal valve]

I like the way it is now

[midnight nimbus]

no, just have bad move spread and slow ADS time

[solid hinge]

fully upgraded mg34 is so much fun

[stoic breach]

It actually shakes so much it raises your dpi

[midnight nimbus]

MMGs shouldn't be bipod only

[copper shoal]

really hope that DUOS come back soon

[formal valve]

Not this again

[solid hinge]

tough luck

rush has been gone for a while

[formal valve]

It was in beta people

[stoic breach]

Skull on

[dense bone]

@copper shoal go to forums or something to promote duos being permanent

[stoic breach]

Tough Luck

[main grove]

MMG’s are kind of tough to balance

[midnight nimbus]

not really

[dense bone]

thats what i did

[formal valve]

MMGs are fine how they are

[copper shoal]

lol and thats why i dont join main games discords

bunch of deuchbags

[stoic breach]

Mmgs just promote camping right now

[formal valve]

[solid hinge]

what

Not our fault you cant read the rules

[dense bone]

?

[midnight nimbus]

do the same thing DICE did with bigmag LMGs in the past

[formal valve]

Then leave

[solid hinge]

how was i a douchbag