Did Russians make that
#battlefield-legacy-titles
weak violet
novel spoke
No its german
solid hinge
so that's what the wingman spec did in the beta
weak violet
Damn
novel spoke
And yeah that entire fuselage is filled with some kind of explosives
novel spoke
I did that mission so many times in IL2, You were guarded by a fighter squadron flying low over france to bomb a bridge and the engage enemy ground vehicles
weak violet
Nice
novel spoke
If you accidentally decoupled the bomb on the starting strip, your fighter plane would FALL on the mistel, triggering it andb lowing up the entire airstrip
soft storm
Dank
weak violet
Sounds like a fun time
weak violet
Your childhood was filled with bombing France
kindred geode
looking for a squad
pale rain
!lfg
junior mistBOT
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Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation
pale rain
@kindred geode
kindred geode
Yeah i realixed i was in the wrong channel after i typed it my b
quasi aspen
How should krag be upgraded?
hoary condor
Gas nades pls 
solid hinge
versed notch
no gas nades
solid hinge
yes gas nades
quasi aspen
😶
versed notch
Also went low drag with Krag UMP45
And bayonet
Otherwise if you're too aggressive go for machined
solid hinge
Mhm
novel spoke
BAR please
hoary condor
if you have a gas mask, if prevents inhalation of gas
novel spoke
Yeah they cant really do the "put on gas mask" thing anymore
Maybe theyll just let some people wear two gas masks over each another
twice as safe
marble phoenix
nah nah
just gotta prepare
if you start throwing them
next deploy
ima put one on
novel spoke
I dont have a gas mask skin unlocked yet
marble phoenix
welp
sleek schooner
saxpone mufflers or reinforced wings for mosquito?
novel spoke
I dont play Recon so I didnt get the lv 20 and Im not far enough for Aka or the two new healmet
No
marble phoenix
got you
novel spoke
I started playing in the last week of Lightning strikes
novel spoke
I mean
I do have veiled threat
meaning if a bandana is enough
Or more like a scarf
marble phoenix
we asking for too much realism
cause that would make sense
but they probably would make us wear the gas masks
and still lose health with the scarf
hoary condor
novel spoke
Id be worried much more about my eyes than my lungs if I have a scarf
lmfao
who made that
pale rain
Jesus😂😂
stone hinge
hoary condor
who enjoys firestorm?
sleek schooner
hoary condor
fathom pebble
you play in the notre dame cathedral
shrewd grove
Just structural
novel spoke
At least theres that
hoary condor
it's the in action of Devastation
fathom pebble
DICE predicted notre dame 6 months ago 
hoary condor
versed notch
1300s iirc
fathom pebble
12th century but wasnt that great, the real work you used to see till yesterday were made in 19th century like many othe rcathedrals around EU
anyways continue in #general pl0x
novel spoke
Why its firestorm related
fathom pebble
because fire
marble phoenix
yea they trolling lol
hoary condor
because it's a storm with fire
mint glen
sonic rampart
Its a burning thing and it makes a fiery ring
pale rain
Oh yeah baby
mint glen
What if this is just promotion for a new firestorm map
hoary condor
scenic beacon
mint glen
hoary condor
sonic rampart
!jumbo
junior mistBOT
hoary condor
Congrats 🎄 on trusted
sonic rampart
Thanks 
main grove
It seems that Lewis gun has now taken over as the EZ mode weapon
Especially when they prone with a non glinting scope
hoary condor
lewis has always been a OP gun on tripad.. 
i used it all the time
minimal recoil
fun to use, no doubt
obtuse shard
Everyone uses that
hoary condor
sounds amazing too
obtuse shard
I use the Double Barrel shotgun
dense bone
lewis is easily one of the best guns in game
sleek schooner
naw a cheating program is
everywhere.
the drilling shtty, i cant get used to it for some reason i keep missing headshots even i put bead on the head?
do i put bead on face or helmet?
main grove
I mean if you’re using buckshot then it’s best to aim for center mass
sleek schooner
the bullet
main grove
Only bother headshotting stationary targets with the bullet
sleek schooner
yeah ive been shooting stationary ppl but i keep missing somehow
main grove
Such as snipers who think they’re safe
sleek schooner
even bead on head?
main grove
Try different sights
sleek schooner
im not too sure where the bead SITS for headshot
main grove
Buckhorn gives you 2x
sleek schooner
or would lattey sight be better?
sleek schooner
k imma try buckhorn and headed to pratice range
main grove
I wish they’ll let you customise magnification more like in BF1
main grove
That makes no sense
No one uses a feature, it’s not in the way of anything, ah let’s remove it then
I used it a lot
midnight nimbus
DICE logic
main grove
2x on bolt actions
midnight nimbus
I only used it to set everything to minimum zoom level
main grove
I’m sure most of the dev team is different
midnight nimbus
remember how the BF1 UI showed you weapon damage model
main grove
A lot of them left rich from BF1’s success
midnight nimbus
a lot left with BFV
midnight nimbus
some before launch
midnight nimbus
well, devs and designers wouldn't care about the "SJW hate"
BFV just undid years of designers' work
main grove
A lot of people came out with anthems failure that apparently the frostbite engine is an absolute nightmare
To work with
In terms of fixing bugs
midnight nimbus
it's hard to work with, but Bioware was also poorly managed
solid hinge
So hyped for next tow chapters
echo glen
Get ready for chap 4
main grove
I don’t understand why they did away with so many things that BF3-1 did right
solid hinge
Mhm and chapter 5
midnight nimbus
because they listened to the community too closely
echo glen
In six months time, the Pacific Theatre will be ours to partake in
midnight nimbus
bc the community doesn't understand good mechanics when it hits them
so everything gets power drained
main grove
BFV is mainly let down by its shitty UI
midnight nimbus
fun gets sucked out of the game
main grove
I prefer BF5 shooting to BF1
marble phoenix
its fine Bad Company 3 coming
echo glen
Gunplay is a plus of bfv
main grove
No arcadey bullet spread
echo glen
That's it tho
midnight nimbus
yeah BFV gunplay is braindead, but it's fun
solid hinge
6 months 
midnight nimbus
it's the logical conclusion of BF1's gunplay, combined with the logical conclusion of BF3 gunplay
main grove
It’s mostly the content drought in a game that was promised to have constant content updates
midnight nimbus
there's some bad things about gunplay, but it's largely good
opaque cipher
Only complaint I can have is that it feels a bit simple at times
Not entirely bad but it just scratches the back of my head
midnight nimbus
the way the recoil is animated is really unpleasant to look at for a lot of guns
main grove
I feel like the heal system needs a rework
solid hinge
Turning tides in bf5 is ending of second world war and beginning of Vietnam war
Bf6 vietnam
opaque cipher
Ye only real thing is recoil animation if you don't use the 3x and beyond
midnight nimbus
the fact that medics can turn bolt actions into 3 hit kills is stupid
main grove
Healing should be a held down thing thing that slows you down and puts your gun away
Like firestorm
midnight nimbus
oh god no
main grove
Either that or no healing
opaque cipher
Nah maybe make it slow heal in combat/suppression
midnight nimbus
and accessible
opaque cipher
And then big heals when out
midnight nimbus
yes
sleek schooner
ok bead on chin is headshot
dense bone
boo passive healing, what is this? cod?
novel spoke
Im really really struggling with Under No Flag stealth
main grove
I never liked auto regen
dense bone
havent played blops 4
midnight nimbus
manual healing presents so many issues
novel spoke
and if I take out the others he will see them
midnight nimbus
makes gameplay so erratic
dense bone
more dynamic
opaque cipher
Not for BF tbh
midnight nimbus
adds unnecessary unpredictability
midnight nimbus
without counterplay
dense bone
i like when im low, freaking out for health, and somehow get kills that i shouldnt have
solid hinge
Flame troopers suck in war stories
midnight nimbus
the fact that you against auto regen to 100 is gross too
midnight nimbus
if I'm low and I'm too far from heals, I just redeploy
dense bone
thats just silly to me
dense bone
i like fighting losing battles and actually winning
solid hinge
Haha losers. I'm invincible I'm a medic
opaque cipher
I like to not be at a disadvantage to begin with
opaque cipher
This really reminds me of Hardline's engineer stuff
marble phoenix
hardline was underrated to me
midnight nimbus
being able to grab resources from teammates was great
dense bone
if theres auto regen i want it to be super slow, or stop at a certain point
sonic rampart
I dont want auto regen
midnight nimbus
when gunplay is designed around 100hp, auto regen to anything less is dumb
sonic rampart
solid hinge
Use lures
novel spoke
Ive spent at least 4 hours with this level
sonic rampart
There already is one
novel spoke
He doesnt notice them
sonic rampart
Which seems pretty fine to me
solid hinge
Bayonetts insta kill flame troopers
dense bone
but we dont know if gunplay is designed around 100hp...
shrewd grove
Auto regen to 100hp took so goddamn long in BF1 and 4 you may as well have just redeployed anyway
dense bone
maybe thats another reason they tried to increase ttk
novel spoke
Yeah but you dont have bayonets in Under no flag
dense bone
novel spoke
Cant get close to him because he always turns around
dense bone
they created the game, youre suggesting you know they didnt create it for 100hp
midnight nimbus
pretty much
dense bone
which, tbf, theres lots of ways to get to 100hp
novel spoke
hes patrolling in a circle and theres three other guys, if I kill them he sees them
solid hinge
Sarnitartar
main grove
BF hardline was ahead of its time with the concept of “just take the fucking ammo from the dumb support”
solid hinge
Blow them up
dense bone
and, increasing ttk could be seen as a way to work around the 100hp probelm youre saying
opaque cipher
God no
midnight nimbus
increasing TTK is fine if gunplay is changed to go with it
midnight nimbus
but TTK is nice as is
dense bone
im not suggesting increasing ttk
main grove
If you change one thing then you must also change everything else to balance it
sonic rampart
Dont change anything
dense bone
both ttk were fine, people were being silly saying 1btk more was dramatic
main grove
ATM BFV gunplay is for the most part fine
midnight nimbus
spread and recoil are designed very precisely to allow a 5 round burst from an automatic to down a 100hp player to the end of a gun's 5BTK range
dense bone
@solid hinge right, certain guns were hit hard
but those needed a buff under that scenario
main grove
Maybe bolt actions need a slight damage buff
midnight nimbus
it's very dramatic, it shifted the balance towards RoFs at the extremes
main grove
To counter instant heal
solid hinge
Medics a cool class but I wanna blow up tanks
dense bone
ROF increase also leads to guns that were harder to control
solid hinge
I can stealth really well. I can't do anything to tanks so I just stand on them
The tanks don't seem to mind
dense bone
so if you could control the higher rof then thats good for you
while in high ttk i was wrecking with semi autos...
opaque cipher
The hard to control thing on anything with lower zoom scopes is more or less an illusion
Your reticle just bounce so intensely you can't place your shots well
dense bone
not if the numbers are there to say otherwise
midnight nimbus
it's not about control, it was about how guns' spread/recoil aren't designed around lower damage
main grove
DICE do love their visual recoil
dense bone
its not solely about control, but control is factor
midnight nimbus
spread and recoil are very precisely set, assuming 100hp
solid hinge
Mp40 Is actually kinda ok up close
midnight nimbus
also semi autos were even more disproportionately powerful in the high TTK experiment
they were the least shitty guns in a game of really shitty guns
main grove
BFV needs a CTE badly
midnight nimbus
not rly
main grove
If they want to try shit like that
opaque cipher
High TTK favors both extremes
opaque cipher
Extremely high damage up front or lots of RoF
midnight nimbus
Bren wasn't badly impacted
opaque cipher
Both make it easy because one lets you land less shots to kill and another sprays so many damage doesn't matter
dense bone
it sounds like there is no 1 rule
midnight nimbus
that's part of the reason it's in Firestorm
you have two extremes
FG 42, and Bren
KE7 wouldn't be very appealing compared to either in a >100hp environment
dense bone
which sounds like guns just needed to be balanced for higher ttk on a gun by gun basis
novel spoke
I honestly thing TTK is fine I just think the maps aren't really adapted to it. Lots of open fields and midrange, but worst of all, the spawn points are very far back, so you spend a LOT of time walking to a point where you will die very quickly. If they moved up some spawn points the entire thing would have more action and the combat to walking sim ratio would feel better
dense bone
not really..
opaque cipher
scenic beacon
midnight nimbus
"spread and recoil are very precisely set, assuming 100hp"
you need to change those if you want to change TTK
dense bone
also semi autos were even more disproportionately powerful in the high TTK experiment
it's very dramatic, it shifted the balance towards RoFs at the extremes
icy sluice
Imagine losing by one hp because the enemy had heavy armor and you had none
midnight nimbus
high TTK experiment was effectively 117hp
main grove
TTK is fine now that they have fixed TTD
dense bone
those two statements are general statements and not a gun by gun scenario
midnight nimbus
I was hoping it was implied
dense bone
implying something when you words mean another never makes sense
midnight nimbus
that's part of the reason why I'm surprised they didn't do more weapon tweaks for FS
icy sluice
Heavy armor + bayonet = V
opaque cipher
Honestly, Dice's idea of innovation is never liked
For as shit of a job as Visceral did to balancing BFH you gotta give them praises on it still
midnight nimbus
yeah, it was an aesthetically great game
icy sluice
Firestorm is alright, but BR is still a shit game mode
midnight nimbus
it's more "immersive" than BFV is in many ways
I hate the interaction = immersion meme
it's frustrating, not immersive
BFH voice work was immersive
main grove
BFVs voice work is kind of repetitive
icy sluice
Hardline feels like it's got more people jumping around
midnight nimbus
yeah, BFV voice work in general sucks
main grove
Especially since Britain isn’t 90% cockney like in BFV
opaque cipher
Get Respawn to do voices and animations, get Dice to do the maps and get Visceral to do QoL features
icy sluice
I liked this line
opaque cipher
Yeah the British dudes have nice greets
That's about as much as I can say
Also the sniper counting kills is nice
icy sluice
That's a revive quote :v
main grove
“Ello ol’ fren”
green elm
“a sight for sore eyes”
midnight nimbus
we need counterspotting and voice lines to go with it
opaque cipher
"Good to see a familiar face around here"
solid hinge
bonjour
green elm
^
midnight nimbus
"I think our cover's blown"
icy sluice
I play right besides my brother, I spawned on him and heard my gurl just say "YOU."
main grove
I don’t speak enough German to know if the German in this game is any good
solid hinge
tfw you get nothing for shooting down flares
main grove
I imagine BF1’s is better
midnight nimbus
BF1's French lines were good
solid hinge
lol I shoot down every flare I see
opaque cipher
BF1's lines are pretty damn great
main grove
This game has good French
solid hinge
Because it's hard to see who's flare it is @solid hinge
main grove
If you set the language to French
opaque cipher
I didn't like the announcers though
icy sluice
I shot a plane down with a field gun and my Austrian teammate laughed
main grove
I think they should make allied flares green to help remove confusion
solid hinge
THIS AMMUNITION'S GOT YOUR NAME ON IT
icy sluice
I turned off that announcer, it felt weird
solid hinge
PATCH YOURSELF UP
icy sluice
Plus the soldiers always said "WE LOST THE OBJECTIVE GET IT BACK"
solid hinge
they do it in BFV too
main grove
Though it was kind of silly in BF1 if a guy stood on an ember “AHHHHRHHHHGGAHHHHA”
opaque cipher
Give us them BF1 screams
icy sluice
I want my German announcer to talk German
opaque cipher
If they don't use BF1 Russian voices Imma be a bit mad
solid hinge
@solid hinge enemy ones are red and yours are like.. just bright
opaque cipher
Especially female
scenic beacon
Didn't we have them in the beta?
sonic rampart
SANITÄTER > all voice lines
opaque cipher
scenic beacon
HALO? SANITATER?
solid hinge
you can even hear the announcer respond to your squad reinforcements btw
sonic rampart
SANITATER hilf MIR
main grove
Teufel noch mal
solid hinge
also fix the unnecessary screaming
opaque cipher
British voice acting is so weak
sonic rampart
Medic plz help me
solid hinge
you can't scream when you're dead
solid hinge
SOMEBODY FUCKING HELP ME - dying British Soldier
opaque cipher
People don't scream when they're stabbed or shot
scenic beacon
BLOOD EVERYWHERE! FuCKiNG hELpMe SOmeONE
opaque cipher
The air escapes from the hole in their lungs
main grove
People go silent
solid hinge
fr?
opaque cipher
They sigh
violet finch
Yeah
hoary condor
Hello 
main grove
They usually start screaming when they’re taken to a field hospital after
icy sluice
The Japanese voice lines for the British are surprisingly well
solid hinge
ok that's fucking horrible lmao
novel spoke
Oh blimey! Bloody Hell could someone lend me a hand=
hoary condor
you'd scream once the shock and drugs were off
violet finch
Or if you have seen saving Private Ryan the kid screaming holding his insides
sonic rampart
@hoary condor hello 🎄
sonic rampart
main grove
Adrenaline numbs most of the pain when you get shot
opaque cipher
The voices in Insurgency are fairly accurate
main grove
Shit always really hurts after
opaque cipher
People actually scream when suppressed
violet finch
Yeah who wouldn't
hoary condor
yeah when i had an accident, the shock.. i didn't know what happened, then the drugs wore off and woke up screaming at 2am
solid hinge
Squad mate: dies
Combined Arms announcer: YOUR FAMILY IS WAITING FOR YOU, DONT GIVE UP NOW
scenic beacon
God, now i want a canadian character. gets shot "Oh no, its nothing, go help the other guy. gaping hole in chest " headshot "sorry!"
solid hinge
@scenic beacon soory bout dat eh!
opaque cipher
Pretty sure US has a training program where you literally sit behind cover all day and have shots fly over your head
violet finch
@hoary condor same thing with me but I was hit by a car going 50
icy sluice
I was raining down MG42 hail on British lines and a man just said "PLEASE, JUST PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE!!!"
hoary condor
i was head on both doing 60mph lol
violet finch
I wasn't in a car
main grove
solid hinge
I heard a guy say "here's a grenade for ya!" In battlefield 1
main grove
13:42 is my spirit animal
violet finch
Yeah the British say that alot
icy sluice
I tossed back a grenade and hit the person who threw it in the head, did 2 damage
main grove
“YA FANCY A PINEAPPLE JERRY”
solid hinge
Nobody:
British soldier: this ammunition's got your name on it"
violet finch
I wish the Germans threw there magazine like a grenade and it actually indicated it but didn't explode
solid hinge
😳
hoary condor
nobody:
Shots fired
Everyone: Sanitater!
my bad team
opaque cipher
"I NEED HEALING"
hoary condor
password as sanitater and the temptation to shout sanitater! in the office becomes ever more tempting
sonic rampart
Nobody:
Me and Squid-Eye: Fire at enemies, but they dont die..
Enemies: shoot back
Me and Squid-Eye: start to run
mint glen
Nobody:
People with bayonets:FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCKKKKKK
sonic rampart
runs while everyone on the map is trying to snipe him
hoary condor
main grove
@violet finch wait they did that?
hoary condor
Goes to Odenburg.. nearly dies
main grove
Oh yeah I guess when you’re not paying attention an MP40 mag looks like a stick grenades
sonic rampart
Goes to the trainstation.. dies every time and gets in the top 5
sonic rampart
violet finch
@main grove the grenade thing yeah
main grove
Cheeky buggers
sonic rampart
They removed duos right 
solid hinge
They did communicate that the second they added it in tho
main grove
They are definitely not communicating with their fans
opaque cipher
They're applying the same mindset as core gamemodes
solid hinge
I agree theyre doing an absolute shit job at communicating but they did say that the duo playlist was only for the weekend
opaque cipher
Is Firestorm even under the list of core gamemodes
solid hinge
and the reason for duo going away was they were just testing it
Its not the same as squad conquest and rush
main grove
It’s like everyone unanimously likes Duos but they’re so committed to their shitty roadmap
There’s no comprimise
hoary condor
would be good to get an official understanding of why the removed it
hoary condor
True
opaque cipher
Better reply quickly before the guys over at reddit start another dumpsterfire
solid hinge
Thats the official statement
hoary condor
but more information on if they are prepping for a full release
Bfv reddit is beyond toxic
main grove
BFV Reddit
DAE DICE LAZY UPDOOTS LEFT
solid hinge
They said its coming at a later date tho
sonic rampart
Ye
solid hinge
And I disagree with bf5 reddit being toxic
hoary condor
i've posted some good posts of gifs
solid hinge
I would argue discords are more toxic
dense bone
all the posts ive seen from bfv reddit have been stupid AF
main grove
I hate every single r/BF
solid hinge
Smaller groups circlejerking
opaque cipher
Discord at least has more active mods
solid hinge
Reddit at least is a big mass with different groups
main grove
Large groups circlejerk
opaque cipher
main grove
Small groups circlejerk
dense bone
lol no?
main grove
Everything on Reddit is a circlejerk
dense bone
^
solid hinge
Ofc discord has more active mods because people like direct power
opaque cipher
You know me too well
solid hinge
Banning a guy from a subreddit isnt the same as banning a guy shitposting on discord
opaque cipher
solid hinge
Here you get to see their live reaction and leave a cheeky last word
sonic rampart
hoary condor
discord follows with insults in DMs and then a friend request 
sonic rampart
Legendary shitpost
main grove
r/BFV
SMH why won’t dice add any eagles or insignias in those sweet Germans here look my full SS outfit that I bought has them
solid hinge
Imagine if there were no complainers on the sub tho
These epic outfits would prolly cost like $50 a pop
dense bone
lets be realistic here
hoary condor
some countries don't allow the swastika logo
solid hinge
And there wouldnt be a roadmap anywhere
hoary condor
Germany only allowed it this year..
dense bone
i think we are giving reddit too much credit
dense bone
"thanks to reddit, cosmetics only cost 10 bucks instead of 50"
opaque cipher
Roadmaps are on social media too iirc
solid hinge
Fucking hell these campers
Yeah but what I mean is if there was no big mass demanding these things nothing would happen
A camping medic??? Really???
dense bone
doubt
opaque cipher
But reddit is the easiest way to drop a post and maybe actually join others and gain some momentum for devs to see
solid hinge
H o w
opaque cipher
Discords are more rounded off
solid hinge
Destiny 2 is a prime example
opaque cipher
You can't drop by and see all top posts
dense bone
im sure reddit helps, but they are not the force that makes dice do anything one way or another
solid hinge
People complained a shit ton and they had to fix their game
midnight nimbus
delete reddit from this earth
solid hinge
Two to three months before complaining started there was no word from anywhere from the devs
dense bone
theres too many factors to consider before claiming anything like that
solid hinge
I think its rather simple tbh
dense bone
hardly anything is as simple as you think
solid hinge
Maybe you have to piece the puzzle together to understand
midnight nimbus
idk what's the worst part of the BF community, reddit or the YouTubers
dense bone
hoary condor
both
midnight nimbus
the blatant YTer misinformation is unreal
hoary condor
we are above them
midnight nimbus
the fact that JackFrags can rally people behind him after claiming blatantly untrue things is unreal
dense bone
at least we arent using our platform to try to justify our opinions...
solid hinge
What did he claim
charred heron
@midnight nimbus Nothing new
midnight nimbus
and DICE isn't chad enough like other studios and call out the community for being wrong
charred heron
"I found a new tryhard loadout, now be grateful you twats"
solid hinge
What did jack claim
midnight nimbus
ugh a variety of things
solid hinge
Not an answer
solid hinge
epic
charred heron
Can't stand Jackfrags anyways, so i take everything he does in his vids with a huge grain of salt
solid hinge
“Jack says things that are false”
What did he say?
“Uh eh oh lots of stuff”
midnight nimbus
JF ripping on auras
solid hinge
I dont even watch jackfrags but saying he spouts false information without any evidence yourself is legit doing what youre saying hes doing
midnight nimbus
and he started the blatantly false "10-A Hunter OP" meme
solid hinge
Hypocrisy much
main grove
Jackfrags is the ultimate BF4 perfect circlejerker
coral fiber
Oof
solid hinge
bf4 was the best bf game tho
coral fiber
^
solid hinge
These two newer games dont even come close
main grove
BF4 was worse off than this game at launch
dense bone
Bf4 didn't work 6 months after launch
solid hinge
Still more fun to play for some reason
main grove
It’s fine now but it only took about a year and a half of fixing
solid hinge
Prolly cuz the map design wasnt utter shit and they kept updating and fixing it pretty regularly
midnight nimbus
nah BF4 maps still suck
main grove
BFV has got all the minerals it just needs a good driver
solid hinge
Not to mention the dlcs
charred heron
I had way too much fun with BF4
midnight nimbus
it's fun bc you're good as an individual
opaque cipher
Most of 4's maps are just really well decorated blank spaces with one to two epicenters for CQC conflict
Especially the China Rising ones
sonic rampart
I like bf5s map
solid hinge
Most of bf5s maps are just flat narrow fields with some buildings on each side
midnight nimbus
JF is almost as bad as LevelCap and XFactor in misinformation
opaque cipher
But you also have the meat grinders like Lockers and Metro
midnight nimbus
this community man
solid hinge
Not to mention how fucking small they are
charred heron
China Rising maps were literally just Hamada in small
charred heron
Anyways, the Final Stand maps had some neat gimmicks
opaque cipher
BFV at least has some consistency with its city
earnest comet
Can’t wait for the Greece 🇬🇷 map
solid hinge
With its city?
opaque cipher
Unlike 4 there are a lot of narrow places across the map
sonic rampart
comparing this game with cod
main grove
My fav BF youtuber is probably thebrokenmachine because he just plays well and is chill
opaque cipher
So CQC can break out at more places than one
midnight nimbus
BFV maps generally play pretty well on Breakthrough
earnest comet
Niccaman is good
main grove
Stodeh just pads KD and gets ebin trickshots bro
opaque cipher
I give BFV shit for how blank maps look but when you play them if feels far superior than 4's less specialized maps
sonic rampart
Yikes
solid hinge
I also love living in a la la land
Where nothing is wrong
And I disagree with that bf4 map statement
In comparison bf5 maps are so cluttered and small
midnight nimbus
epic xfactor videos where he teaches you how to play the game wrong 😎
solid hinge
Its like youre playing tdm
charred heron
BF4 was overall decent after major patches, netcode still sucks, and attack helis are always frustrating
solid hinge
Every game
shrewd grove
BF4 maps felt too empty
opaque cipher
Yeah that's why I said it has consistency
solid hinge
Thats what made bf4s maps good though
charred heron
For real tho, most of those BF youtubers get carried by battallions of Medics
solid hinge
They werent so small and didnt force people into one spot
opaque cipher
You're more likely to find yourself in fights between structures instead of taking shots from a thousand snipers while traveling from point A to point B
opaque cipher
That's one thing I didn't like about 4
solid hinge
Which were designed purposefully like that
midnight nimbus
my favorite xfactor-ism:
> "as a former BF3 comp player"
> was a backup tanker, in a game where tanks are OP af
opaque cipher
"Spawn here or die to snipers and vehicles"
shrewd grove
BF3 did a better job of being expansive while not being empty imo
solid hinge
my answer to that is just git gud
hoary condor
it's a good map
solid hinge
I agree that hamada is boring
hoary condor
if you get past the first sector on breakthrough
opaque cipher
Hamada has the same problem I have with a lot of maps on 4
solid hinge
Its such a huge map but the objectives are in a line on just on side of the map
midnight nimbus
Hamada is fine on BT
solid hinge
lol
midnight nimbus
the first sector is easy if you spawn AA
dense bone
for conquest, just go to the area around E
solid hinge
Stupid design choice
dense bone
that part of hamada is fun
sonic rampart
^
charred heron
@midnight nimbus But only on BT because the map is nicely sectored
solid hinge
German spawn should be where F is on hamada conquest
dense bone
yea, 70% of the map is lame
charred heron
And not open and empty like Fallout 76
midnight nimbus
yes, BFV maps are well designed around Breakthrough in general
charred heron
Hamada would make a great map for Fallout 76 tbh
hoary condor
i rush west (i think) with recon, chuck 2 smokes to cover, run put spawn beacon down... #ReconIsGood 
charred heron
Most maps in BFV are made for GO first, then the other modes
main grove
A lot of Hamada conquest maps are rather hectic around C and D
midnight nimbus
very few maps actually have good conquest layouts
like Rotterdam CQ layout is absolutely nonsensical at best
sonic rampart
solid hinge
Rotterdam is another small asf map
hoary condor
breakthrough on Rotterdam is fun
weak violet
Sup
sonic rampart
Its a decent map
hoary condor
Hello again Trevor
weak violet
I love breakthough on rotterdam
midnight nimbus
> make both teams spawn on the same side of the map in CQ
sonic rampart
I like Rotterdam and devastation
hoary condor
not bad buddy
solid hinge
Imo rotterdam should have some fighting on the bridge on breakthrough
weak violet
Also is Punished POW just Dabmins alt?
dense bone
rotterdam and devastation are fun
opaque cipher
I like rotterdam despite its relatively simple design tbh
midnight nimbus
spawning Pz4 or 38t on the first stage of Rotterdam 😩
weak violet
I love devastation
hoary condor
hoping to get a game of in tonight
main grove
I’d like a more complex urban map tbh though
opaque cipher
A good balance between the tiny alley way fights and more open ones
charred heron
Rotterdam gives for some frustrating points, but also some nice CQC moments
sonic rampart
^
main grove
Bring back BF1942 Berlin
solid hinge
Propaganda from bf4 was phenomenal
solid hinge
Very good urban map
earnest comet
Rotterdam is definitely top 3 imo
hoary condor
it's not a simple design, it's based on a real location....
weak violet
But 20 kills while attacking objectives in a round is cancer
weak violet
Can barely get 9
charred heron
"I'm a pro in Flood Zone"
proceeds to use an SRR with 60x scope
hoary condor
it's not that though
charred heron
hoary condor
i done it with a sniper
opaque cipher
@hoary condor a real location can be simple though
dense bone
you just push obj that constantly have people on them
hoary condor
True..
opaque cipher
Like a field of grass
dense bone
something like D on rotterdam when youre A side
weak violet
Lamo you guys thinking I can kill enemys xd
opaque cipher
hoary condor
Panzerstorm?
weak violet
But really tho
opaque cipher
solid hinge
Love panzerstorm
weak violet
I hope the next gold challenge makes me get kills in a life
opaque cipher
That's one of the reason why I don't like older settings
midnight nimbus
Panzerstorm is fun... when you're British
weak violet
Because those ones are easy
midnight nimbus
German tanks are just 🤢
solid hinge
I disagree actually
opaque cipher
People tend to not go and map old and unique structures
solid hinge
Attacking on panzerstorm is hella fun
weak violet
I do CA for those challenges
hoary condor
Attacking on Panzerstorm is fun
opaque cipher
So stuff like Fort De Vaux are fewer and far in between
Limits creativity in a way
novel spoke
How do you aim bombs with the stuka?
hoary condor
defending is hard.. though i was knocking Tigers out wit a 6 pounder
novel spoke
Im playing under no flag
solid hinge
Fort de vaux was a great map as well
weak violet
German tanks are obviously superior then British tanks
earnest comet
What’s the best game mode
hoary condor
Breakthrough (Rush if we had it)
solid hinge
Verdun heights was great too
opaque cipher
There is also that one Italian mountain map or something
hoary condor
Verdun was an awesome map with the big olde cannon
opaque cipher
The one with a cannon and also in the main war story
novel spoke
monte grappa
sonic rampart
Especially on devastation
opaque cipher
Ye
charred heron
Verdun where the map went more and more fiery
solid hinge
Oof I hated monte grappa
hoary condor
defending the last sector was great on that
novel spoke
monte grappa was beautiful
solid hinge
Still more fun to play than most of bf5s maps though
opaque cipher
I hated uhhh
hoary condor
birds eye view with that big old cannon
opaque cipher
That one with poppy flowers
solid hinge
Oh yeah
sonic rampart
I hated the singai stuff
solid hinge
The french one
novel spoke
how do I am stuka bombs
hoary condor
that was a tough map when you got to the bridge
weak violet
Panzerstorm
opaque cipher
The pacific one with the beach and trenches was pretty nice
weak violet
novel spoke
Gallipoli?
solid hinge
Yeah gallipoli was aight too
hoary condor
Grappa was a nightmare on either end
opaque cipher
Take your periscope out
hoary condor
unless you had a good team
opaque cipher
Spot everything
weak violet
Fucking 6 pounders in the air
hoary condor
St quentin?
opaque cipher
Gallipoli
solid hinge
St quentin was good but not that
hoary condor
loved St Quentin
opaque cipher
Mt Grappa for me is just so stupid it's fun
hoary condor
well the beginning trench fights were awesome
sonic rampart
I liked tsaritsyn
main grove
Passchendaele was great
hoary condor
really felt like ww1
midnight nimbus
I want something like Amiens back
solid hinge
Had a massive field with a metric fuck ton of trenches
midnight nimbus
Achi Baba too
solid hinge
That was true ww1
opaque cipher
Achi Baba was lit
midnight nimbus
Achi Baba was just a non shitty Fjell
sonic rampart
Because I won a round in operations
main grove
Worst map was Galicia
hoary condor
Passchendaele was awesome
violet finch
Not going to lie I liked River somme with all the trenches
hoary condor
it's only when you look at the real life pictures how bad it was
sonic rampart
But in the church I picked medic and started to revive everyone
hoary condor
noice
main grove
Fjell has a bit of cover though
Galicia was hell
opaque cipher
Galicia is plane farming heaven
hoary condor
Fjell you get cover from poor visibility
opaque cipher
BFV*
main grove
I wouldn’t mind if they just ported some old BF1 maps into BFV just for the giggles
idle breach
hmm
opaque cipher
I want a meat grinder
earnest comet
Time to kill some brits
solid hinge
I’d love a 1940s metro
opaque cipher
Give me a place to do those kills
solid hinge
😎
main grove
I would like a 1940 Seine crossing
idle breach
anybody want some uh...some kind of command system in bf?
idle breach
or at least give some more communication through the whole team?
hoary condor
voting against squad leader would be good
opaque cipher
I'm kinda sad I never experienced the legendary BF3 maps
solid hinge
And honestly at this point I’d prefer old maps ported over
midnight nimbus
I want BFH maps remade for WW2
hoary condor
60k points doesn't know how to call a V1 in.... 
solid hinge
Theres no guarantee the new maps will be good
I’d rather play on old maps than hate a new map for being shit and never play on it
sonic rampart
main grove
They look nice I guess
idle breach
I like the chaotic theme of bf but sometimes I feel I'm playing in a herd of armed wildebeest
main grove
Especially the autumn France one
hoary condor
has me so hooked
novel spoke
is there like a button for bomber view
idle breach
yeah
midnight nimbus
BFH growhouse as a weapons factory pls
charred heron
Firestorm rewards are totally not worth the time you waste in this mode
idle breach
go first person view and hit zoom
solid hinge
Yeah not at all
hoary condor
winning is good enough for me
solid hinge
Unleas you really enjoy the gamemode
idle breach
it would show you bomber's sight but I think people just use 3rd person view all the time
violet finch
Honestly when playing BFV I get that squad going they make the game detaild to where I feel like I'm pushing the objective leading a charge and all of a sudden your in bastone crying for help as artillery raines everyone into cover
solid hinge
Ye no point in using first person aiming on bombers imo
hoary condor
i enjoy it, it's fun
solid hinge
Best squad 5 times in a row 
solid hinge
We're all medics
hoary condor
noice @solid hinge
idle breach
unless there are absolute no one doing anything aginst bomber
solid hinge
I think they should bring back the old revive system
The animation now feels more like a gimmick
novel spoke
FUCK
violet finch
I like the new one if the implemented dragging
novel spoke
I flew into a mountain again
midnight nimbus
lmao body dragging
novel spoke
I CANT HIT THE OBJECTIVES
solid hinge
If they did that then yeah keep it
idle breach
that should make this game literally a wildebeest simulator
novel spoke
flying is so bad in this game
midnight nimbus
imagine the griefing
novel spoke
Can I use my Attack 3?
solid hinge
Git gud migel
midnight nimbus
dragging your teammates into the canals of Rotterdam
solid hinge
Bombing is so easy bro
midnight nimbus
or into the water in Twisted Steel
novel spoke
I dont want to fly planes online I just want to get the cricket bat
solid hinge
Fret not
novel spoke
and you have to bomb 4 objs in UNF
solid hinge
Soon you can use boins to skip the progression
violet finch
I'm an ace on Xbox I haven't touched the ground this match and there at 100 tickets
hoary condor
Shaun of the dead?
novel spoke
I dont understand how to aim the bombs and the stuka cant pull up fast enough to zoomnboom with the cannons
How do I hit them
violet finch
Dive
violet finch
Drop
novel spoke
It doesnt pull up
idle breach
flying in bf is kinda simple but it's still flying, not really intuitive thing so I think the only way is just doing it again till experienced
novel spoke
Its too heavy
hoary condor
@novel spoke watch some videos of Stukas in action.. you'll learn what to do
solid hinge
Wdym it doesnt pull up
novel spoke
jesus christ I just want to hit 4 objs I dont want to play with planes
idle breach
that maneuver patch affected singleplayer?
novel spoke
cant you just
main grove
Don’t wait until you’re 20m from the ground when you pull up
solid hinge
Its not that hard mate
novel spoke
Does the stuka have bomber view
main grove
No
novel spoke
How do I am bombs at all
idle breach
it have in multiplayer
solid hinge
Its a dive bomber ya dingus
idle breach
you don't have bomber view or reticle?
solid hinge
Not rly
main grove
And is about 50m in front
hoary condor
they are dive bombers
novel spoke
the only reticle I see with bombs equipped is a dot in center screen
idle breach
migel maybe your sensitivity is too low on plane
hoary condor
they don't shoot it out. they just drop
solid hinge
Kek
idle breach
no you should have not a dot a circle
solid hinge
You understand that the bombs move with the plane right
novel spoke
I will not change my sensitivity ive been playing on the same for six months
main grove
Third person bomb reticle is accurate
idle breach
no the plane one
main grove
The bomber cam in BF1 was accurate
solid hinge
They dont just drop down where you dropped them