#battlefield-legacy-titles
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what about less then 0
downwards recoil
Assault just gets the death machine from Black ops 
Mosin for scouts?
Medics get Assault Revolvers
Or something like the Grabenstutzen
Just a pistol with a stock

I hope so @dusty jewel
The had it in bf1
medics would become snipers with self heal then
π
Well some already have the De Lisle due to classic DICE fuckup
And completely specialized it too
no, we tried
DICE

srly we tried
didnt work
we sawed the servers and the game in half and put it back with flex tape
But bf4 needed a lot of flex tape
Hey btw when is fairfight coming back from vacations?
That ace 23 needed some flex tape
Btw when is bioware gonna use flex tape on anthem
this be #battlefield-legacy-titles
Lol
We're learning about WWI technology in history today
Me, an intellectual that plays BF1:
Experimental weapons that were produced in the double digits, never saw combat
FUCK THE AA TRUCK nuff said
Which vehicles specificallu
was the AA truck even a thing in WWI
The truck was but I'm not sure if it ever mounted a portable AA gun
Alright it's acceptable then
what is
The AA truck
epicness
France mainly used it

It was garbage cross country, so that's the innacurate bit. But then, landships in game are faster than a sprinting soldier

happy #fridaynightbattlefield


indeed
I like tornado alley and the jackal
Non
Sup
hey dude
How ya doing trevor?
Pretty good, got some great sleep
i'm happy for it
I like it. Another way to support dice!
cya @drowsy cape !
They have a link to my enjoyment it beats any game on the market (fps) for me
people will say it's unrealistic but still play apex/forknte/cod 
@hoary condor
i have returned
hey @solid hinge
Anyone know how many items are in the deluxe airlifts?
not enough

Yeah ik
i'm not sure tbh
Sup
Im just wondering if there are more than what it includes
Because im still yet to get the blockade runner head piece
Jackal is all that's needed π
My computer does not have enough space for the new update
it's amazing, and i have it lol
So I can't play
i have the money 
Me too 
then why complain? 

you don't need to look good when playing a game..
again as mentioned it's not like most FPS's that you need to have money to have an OP gun to be better
Just because someone sells dogshit on the street for $10 doesnt make the dogshit not dogshit

Gewehr 43 is like level 5 innit
The level 20 one
The Gewehr 1-5?
Yup
Its prolly the worst gun in the game chief
i'm 27... i have played Mario.. nobody complained the way he looked
it's all about the Liberator 
whoaaaa, did you say the g1-5 is the worst gun in game?!
here he is
It also has little damage to compensate for the large mag
@dense bone Yeah for the new update I won't be able to play BFV
Might as well just use the one w full auto and tap fire
it destroys up close, and takes 1 extra bullet at range to kill
Isn't it still 4 shot body kill
it covers the important ranges the best
Pak 40 against planes β€
Aka what the 10 round ag is
Is the AG good?
The g43 is still gonna outgun u ezpz
If you can consistently hit heads
i had other guns close to the same KPM but they dropped because of firestorm
i can't shoot the stg, iron sight is terrible
but g1-5 was always my highest kpm gun
I love the stg44 iron sight
But when it comes down to it, not everyone is going to have the same results with the guns
My highest KPM gun is .60 
Especially from console to pc
that's why i liked firestorm.. it makes me use guns i never use
Its the M1987
Tho I also like the Kalashnikov iron sights alot
ak47 iron sight is good
Iron sights gang gang
considering im a "top 1% player" i think the fact that i have a standout gun like this compared to most guns being around 2 kpm, i think says something about the gun
Top 1 player
alright show off
In battlefield

Ima have to let u know chief
Im a minecraft pvp top 0.1%
So my opinions outclass urs
π€
im just using that as a measurement to show that im topping out stats and that i shouldnt "lack" or have a huge variety in stats
i'm #21 for
for something..
for leaderboards i was always cod tbh
only since the tracker kicked in i worry and the #stats 

i can get not liking the g1-5, but to say it doesnt perform is a lie imo
i dont like the ag42 and mas and turner, but i perform good with them
i just think it covers the most relative ranges the best of all guns AND can still do good at range and up close
while being easy to use
I mean I still would be bad with it like with all weapons, I am a bot
hmm, tbh i havent used it since the last semi nerf
you finally see the light
But it was fun playing with a squad on the other ones
im using the 1-5 with a 3x with hipfire specs
you still shit on everyone
you're slightly worse at longer ranges but half the other classes cant even hit you and you have 31 bullets to magdump
@solid hinge g43 loses to the g1-5 at close range
g1-5 does lose at range, but most of the time you can ignore them and not die
people are generally bad shots
It still kills in like 5 shots too
You might not win straight up fights but you can damage people
Admits people are generally bad shots
Flexes with kpm

if people were generally good shots. my kpm would obviously be lower... this isnt rocket science
Factzzzzzz
if the game had matchmaking based on something like mmr my stats would be lower
granted on pc i think most people are bad shots because they dont have "proper" mouse settings
Its fun to use, but that sweet purple mg42...
lol nyphon
german?
Psst mmg
just be happy the game doesn't have a jam system because mp40s were prone to it when loaded with full mags
psst tav
Wanna play some firestorm 
lol i would hate a jam system
damn then
Imagine cross platform
its like the tripping mechanic in smash bros

god... a jammed mmg...
cross platform would be heavily balanced in the favor of console players if the pc players had standard pcs
a jammed mmg is ez pz to clear
not the ones you cant open the top to
wait shit yeah
apature reloads make it ez to clear the jams but when the tops dont open its big depresso
also the sten would jam ALL the time if there was jamming...
also BFV Turnin into fortnite with clothes you have to buy with premium cash n squad drops and armor n shit
next thing we know there is gonna be a season pass
ye the Sten would be absolutely fucked
i think casual console vs casual pc (as long as console has AA) i think would be fairly even, but at top level play i think pc would beat console players
Imagine only playing solo because none of your friends are in the EU or play on the ps4 and nobody in the lfg waits or puts their ign 
In firestorm
also the ross @untold cliff
Lmao Dutch
Ye console have the snap aim shit but if someones pc is good enough and they good with it it would be unbalanced
@scenic beacon lets not forget the fuckin shotguns
True
they still used paper cartridges back then
lmao
whats wrong with Twisted Steel?
its wet
moist
and we all know what happens to wet paper
soggy
and cardboard
yeah
not good for shotguns
really soggy paper isn't good for any guns
plastic shells weren't produced that much during ww2 so they were primarily ineffective

feelsbadman

God I want the PTRD
Give recon an anti tank role replacing the rifle and sidearm with a limited ammunition anti-tank rifle
Tank hunter kit from bf1 basically?
I want my frommer stop Auto back
PTRD will probably have a scope requirement so it has a glint
I have no imagination
That would be a PTRS, the ptrd usually didnt have a scope
Air Superiority map
There are some really beautiful places on halvoy that I don't get to appreciate because of the fast pace of the game
Imagine ARMA but battlefield
Thats called milsim lmao. Well they try at least
Lol
Ah there goes my boys
Thoughts on the helicopter?
HOORAY!
THANK THE SOVIET GODS
I had a 30 gift card so I bought all the skins
heh
I got tornado alley and the jackal
a gas mask wearing a smaller gas mask when
got an image of that shit somewhere lmao, but cant post it here, not trusted
or twelve
you could put it on your groin in case your penis needs to breathe
...
you dont want gas on your penis
Whenβs the katana gonna be put into the game?
fall 2k19
with the rest of the weebs probably
how about equipping a katana on my rifle and use it as a bayonette
banzai charge or riot
Coupe-Coupe attached to an AR
@dusky saffron yeah, i had 30 dollars spare after i got my airsoft mg42
i cant front i want the war patches elite fit
Shovel attached to a Lee Enfield
just so zoe can have the ponytail
fire axe attached to suomi
Nice typo
storm hunters = long hair on axis side?
That one was fantastic
no it's the one I posted
@marble phoenix katana on liberator
Storm hunters is demolisher headgear on the hunter uniform set
lmaoooo
No?
hatchet on Lewis
Or aviator
One of those two
british jack knife on the mg42
they have outline outfit types
That's what storm hunters is
Just demolisher headset on the hunter or aviator uniform
blockade runner is the outline of the patriot
but they change items when it comes to that
they flip a lot of uniforms like that
otherwise you wouldn't be buying more items
Demolisher has gloves
if you just simplify it to "it's just this but like that"
On both hands
that makes sense
anyone wanna play bf1? PC
The Jackal is just the wolf
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@dim drum
@icy sluice its ever so slightly different I think
the trench coat with the bandoleer shit is a new model
completely
or ammo racked over their shoulder for the intelligent people

yall think armor should be included in regular MP modes?
I'm glad they at least change the items on the new outfits
smh
but putting placed items like bundle grenades is kinda lame
mg42 epic skin when?
sighs
It's the leaves
i thought i was gonna play tekken today
but now ima pull an all nighter with BF
cant wait
bfv is really fun tbh
plays I can't wait
yeaaa this is a good game overall
did you guys hear about the new fo76 fuckup
out of all of the bad launches in the winter
@icy sluice By Outkast?
another one? lol
BFV made the recovery roll lmao
No
hah
despite them lying about how good the game has been doing and how bad the patches have been
Cosmetic microtransactions will kill bfv obv
i want more melee weapons
And my axe
thankfully reach will bring me satisfaction with the assassinations 
i just like the fact that enemies can't be revived when you take their dog tags
Melee death > Explosion > Shooting
Win a game is one of them
GeT a RoAdKiLl UsInG a TrAcToR
But its a side thingy
we gettin landing craft and torpedo boats boy
YES
more shit to destroy
that one coming out of the water looks dope though
and im in that ford all day
lol
Itβs sad to say but these reward napalm skins look like something youβd expect from CoD
They suck
lmaoo that helmet is kinda crap
Ikr
Sup
i feel like it was a throw away
cause we got that joint early in the chapter ranks
compared to other chpaters gear took a little longer to get
Just give me a dark gray Stahlhelm with a face thingy and Iβll be fine
i just want hair for Zoe/Helga now lol
Christian and helmut are the best characters
GΓΌnter the hypebeast
Kurt, Helga, Zoe, Leo, Monika
probably my fav chararters
not supreme
lmaoooo thats actually dope

Whyβs there a bug that resets your settings and turns on the tutorial if you stop playing for a day?
Iβm so confused, 3rd time this happened
@fathom pebble Better?
needs more camo
Thanks to @versed notch for the GΓΌnter brands
All about Helga

Just Monikammmmmmmmm
Or Ingrid
Monika is best suited for Medic imo
Helga is my medic
doki doki literature club
The fuck
Sounds boring already
GΓΌnter as Assault
Gunter as recon
Crush your enemies with GΓΌnter's superior build
Frank the Tank as Assault
speaking of tanks... shame they nerfed my valentine aa case rounds...
still works fine, but i miss my infantry sniper
now its a shotgun like how it was supposed to be...
i miss the old ones
that was FUN
Gunter assault with demolisher cap
the case rounds are so bad now
They are
im not convinced that temporyal ISNT a DICE employee
is anyone else having fps drops since update?
spotted enemies
Enemies all across the map bro
and close ones
It's intermittent it seems
Happened in the last 2 games I've played
are shotguns still bugged?sometimes i hit an enemy 2m in front for 5 dmgo on torso ,sometimes it's 1hk as it should be 
when a player in firestorm is spotted by a flare ,ect they are spotted for every player
Ye
It didn't happen that game...
Yeah, I know about flares and spotted enemies, of course, but this is map-wide
The first time I noticed it a few games ago was when everyone was jumping out of the plane... it was showing everyone jumping out of the plane marked red
I've been changing my custom color settings this morning... that's the only thing I can think that has caused it
But yeah, when it happens I can see enemies clearly marked red on the map and see their movement and everything
Crazy
I'll take a screenshot if when it happens again
I wouldn't call it a hack if that's what it is... I haven't used any hacks or exploits lol
It's a bug if anything
wtf
so i got the stug skin again instead of the 38T french skin?
No, Not you
what the hell battlefield...
Someone else was probably doing it
i got the flickering bug now when i enter a plane 
didn't know the girls talked about direction
worse than the squad one
βwe should explore zis vayβ
she's like
talking for a solid 10 seconds
and I was like

can't wait to hear the new character voices 
Yes it's true i am a virgin
Honestly a big reason I like more factions is more voicelines, especially with just how many there were in BF1
One issue though is that
the FP voice actor is the same
while the 3P voices are like
different people
Ikr
https://youtu.be/oYqiYflCDMU @shrewd grove
These are all of the 3rd person comment voice over lines for British Male Soldier. Later Today, I will upload the female comment voice overs at 2PM CT, sharp...
Yeah its weird
like they got new voice actors but
your guy sounds the same and the inconsistency is kinda gross
why did austrians have german voices tho
I'm just hoping they do better with later factions
I just hope they distinguish and line up the voice lines
tru
the ones we currently have could be part of like 3-4 different characters
"Fixed an issue that caused the Customization screen to be darker than intended when
having DX12 enabled." I's still dark for me, anoyone else got this problem aswell?
guys is another 26 gb update released after the firestorm update ?????
It's not 26gb
Can I ask a question about BFV here?
@patent tulip Stop spamming thanks
low effort meme at that
Does anyone know if
The Wild One helmet for a female character shows hair or if it's a shaved head like the other headgear
@dusky saffron cause its preparing 27 gbs now
It's verifying your files
updates today revolve around file seeking and replacement
i believe theyβre all shaved heads?
so its another 7 gb update after firestorm??? @dusky saffron
Lame :/
They should stop promoting the gear with hair in the posters
Around 6 GB but ye
maybe hair is coming
I know the bandage over the eye has hair
Anyone else been getting random frame drops since this patch?
There's a faded outline of hair when I go to view it in the helmets section but I can't tell if it's meant to BE there
I'm thinking about buying it
Wait it does??
buy it 
I'm confused aaaaaa
I need to find someone who has it to send a picture
I just might get it 
alt do it
I've seen people with it before on the allied sides and didn't see the outline @fossil spruce
So you saw a shaved head?
I need that image of the location of the tank hangers
No it's actual hair
oh also what are some of the other medic guns that can be used from a slightly longer range? i know the zk is good but are there any others
Oh right yeah
check this guys he kill my squad in the firestorm
Ok I might get it then
i have video how he shooting against wall
When I went to view it in the headgear section it was a shaved head with a faded outline of hair
check out just lol
!r7
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@shrewd grove You're a cheater π
Anyone know how to send videos on here?
ty for link...gonna double report hem
Strider you had a picture of a map with all the tank bunker locations right?
No that was someone else iirc
^ that would be helpful
There is an interactive firestorm map in the pins
@amber notch Nice! Ty
dog
π
πΆ
Itβs mostly vehicle info but thereβs lots of it
WISH I could see it, the wifi blocks Reddit
Iβll DM you the link so you can see it later
Danke
Nice
omg strider
Pacific Rim Job
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No chapter v
Oh shit
So that means, we should get a lot of weapons too
Wait there is no chapter 5?
does that mean DICE will just stop supporting BFV and release BF4 2.0?
bf4 2
No there is a chapter 5
or just release bf4 again no changes
Battlefield 22222222
I think he was just answering another question
Microburst intensifies
if BFV didn't have the spread to recoil conversion, the gunplay would be so solid
youβre saying you dont like micro bursting with an aek for 2 hours??
Wow why are some of you people so ignorant?
lol
the fuck are you on about
Chapter V was the chapter that got datamined, not 4

Because when I answered him by sayin βno chapter vβ someone thought I meant no chapter V was coming
4 got datamined too
no, chapter v
^
A comma would have helped lol
Sorry lol
when they designed mobile keyboards commas shouldnβt have been 2 clicks away smh
filter servers to oce only
Imagine being Australian
the good servers should have green bars

no ones on cuz itβs like 4am bro
its 7;30 am
Anyway the data he was pretty much just vehicles
oh shit
itβs still a bit early in the weekend i guess
iβm sure people will start rolling on at some point
can i join guys from uk and shit?
in asia the only people on at this time of night (like 3 am) are the dedicated japanese sweats
you can, but yeah lag is rough
aight cheers
lmao
Mp40
mp40 is my fave
lately iβve been running with mp28 which i feel like wins me more close range fights because of its higher rate of fire
I'm a STEN user
and mp34 is apparently really good as a longer range alternative?
Thompson is really good if you can control the recoil, it can do crazy damage even at mid range
suomi to melt people point blank but itβs useless outside of kicking distance
lmao
i think theyβre fairly balanced tbh
the zk feels fab
MP34 has the least drop-off damage at 70m @green elm
ive used it for most of my play time
dang, you can play mp34 as an assault rifle pretty much
i used the suomi for a bit, but i dont like the idea of super close range high fire rate guns
id rather just use my drilling lol
the high rof bullet hoses are definitely a niche
Only thing I dislike about the MP34 is it's hipfire doesn't feel as good as the MP40
thats why i leant towards the zk
mp40 hipfire is incredible
should i go for the hipfire tree then?

on them p40
@keen lion you can go without the hipfire tree and it's still really good
yee ive stayed away from it just by description
hipfire makes it a laser tho
dont feel like i need even more hipfire power
I use the aiming tree, the hipfire is fine starting for me
i opted for the hipfire tree and only ever ads when i want to microburst
gonna get a 2070 now that i cant run BFV well anymore
and i have to update, how large was the latest update?
like, 6gb?
k thanks
why go hipfire on a gun that slow?
Is it possible to recover my old Origin account I used on xbox and use it on pc?
ni
no
@solid hinge do u mean hipfire on mp40?
@midnight nimbus i like to actually hit enemies that are out of range of my hands 
Hello
hi
hii
can anyone see what i mean with these images
Have no idea what you mean lol
oh
lol
yeah gotta be some mistake
no sence in risking copy that big company I think
Basically, the Sniper role pin and the Mini car logo, have a look
yeah but many military symbols and logo derived from 19~20th century kinda had that common trope
don't think mini could sue and won
im not saying that, im just saying its ironic
yeah

oh? ironic?
its not a 100% copy, its more of like a 75% irony
because them both side to side are not the same, just similar
yeah
tbh I'm just wondering why mini changed their logo to that
The Mini symbol contains a circle in the middle, which rejoices the companyβs name in uppercase letters. The wings symbolize the speed, agility, power, and freedom. Also, the Mini symbol denotes economy, a reasonable price, normal capacity. The compact car intended for a mass consumer is provided with such features.
ObJeCtIvE bUtTeRs
agility, speed, power, freedom

thats a bit of a stretch there
yeah
should change the recon logo to
something like....
something could symbolize the
depression and dissapointment
the freedom to stay 500 metres away from the point
speed to die quickly
why did they fuck up the order wheel
the power of a 54 damage body shot
you're thinking too much about it, its supposed to be fun
the agility of proning in the same spot for 5 minutes
Lmao yes
I wonder if they'll add more subclasses soon
would be neat to see other gameplay traits
What could they add though?
I was thinking like
follow the ToW assignments, they get you gud .. to be blunt
Good joke
sweet spots are lame and dont reward accuracy
accuracy > positioning
both matter
position yourself well and just delete everyone with the SMLE
if SS is too good, you can make the ranges smaller
Sure!
and reduce RoF if necessary
How am I supposed to get bayonets from 70m back
its about degrees yo, you dont put a nervous youngster in a situation that overwhelms them and laugh at their fails, that kid would benefit do much from ToW
increase velocity across the board and increase drag coefficient for sniper rifles too
my only degree is on my protractor
make playing midrange near objectives more effective
long range camping less effective
at least SS made long range camping an idiot trap
it's still an idiot trap
make it more of an idiot trap, relatively speaking
fair point
higher velocity, higher drag, and a sweet spot
SLRs already fulfill the role mid range engagement with recon
tweak RoF as necessary with those 3 changes and recon isn't a meme anymore
Snipers were meant for long range pickoffs
SLRs need buffs across the board
Making a 2 hit potentially a 1 hit is a gross idea
from the perspective of someone getting shot, getting OHKed from a bodyshot and a headshot is the same
Snipers were meant for precision
and they're like the only weapon type in the game that OHKO to the head
no need to make it a body shot
switch weapons
DeLisle, slug shotguns, and the revolver all OHSK
you can headshot in bfbc2 as well, your point?
how about giving bolt action
Shotguns are obvious and revolve needs to be in less than like 8 m
that...
factory rof or faster rof when using with scope
Saying that the sniper is the gun that where one bullet can OH the head anytime
and it can stay like that
or at least increase the speed of bullet? or actually make zeroing useful
rewards accuracy over lucky placement
how is going for an upper chest shot lucky placement?
it's pretty annoying that the already slowest guns get a rof drop with a scope
i get iron sight gets some advantage like reloading with keeping ADS but
like you still have to aim
rof drop is so huge
it's only upper chest
stomach shots didn't OHK in BF1
rainbow glint + scope blur could be reintroduced and be more exaggerated

everyone bitches about bolt actions being shit in every game
one game introduces a fix
wow
everyone complains
BF1 isn't any less casual than BFV
That's a nice opinion
if anything, BFV's gunplay is more casual
BF1 had a lot of "casual" shit
but not in gunplay
I thought it was similar to bf4 gunplay
lower ttk
improved gunplay with reduce in random spread from the games previous mechanics
yeah it's way more casual
lmao
your max spread for most guns is really negligible
Point is, I have top tier stats when it comes to tank vs tank combat, I challange anyone in this chat to say they have killed more heavy tanks than I have........but .. .. when a new person comes into this chat I dont shit and flex all over their first steps into their chosen role. .. please guys, I am not asking you to change nappies, im just asking for a OG attitude
remember when BF4 stubby LMG was super good because your max spread was stupidly low?
then they fixed it
that's pretty much a feature in BFV now
easier gunplay was advertised as a feature
"inspiration from BF3"
M16A3 blasting
If that's what you call it lol
gripbar let you just hold LMB on people
BFV guns are pretty similar
your penalty for magdumping is nonexistent on many guns
only guns that really suffer from magdumping are the high RoF SMGs and ARs
I don't see it as such
if you magdump with an smg or something with a lower than average spread
mag dumping..sounds like most deaths in bf4 
you'd practically win without having to try
oh look another skillful display by spraying 3/4 of his mag at me with an AR
but that's fine since everyone practically has that opportunity to do so
your max spread on guns like the MP40 and Ribey is pretty much identical to the min spread on BF1/4 guns
spread still exists however
I lose hipfire fights sometimes with a ribey against an mp40 or something
hipfire in BFV is actually good, which is nice
"relying on RNG" is kind of a silly way to put it though
BF1's system catered around each class having a certain gun mechanic
randomness is predictable
Randomness is predictable..
Theres logic in there somewhere ..
BF1 catered each class type to a certain style of play that overall was meant to make gameplay easier
were all going to die in 12 years
t. someone who actually took more than one statistics class
Assault had a low hipfire spread and shotguns
making CQC super easy
Medic had very low bullet spread from ADS
Support in both hipfire and ADS gained accuracy overtime over the changes in past bf games where spraying was more indelicate and lead to shooting around your target instead of at them
Recon had sweet spot and flares which made them, to me, the most baby brained class out of all of them
BFV gunplay is just the logical conclusion of BF1's, you know
game was hyper casualized to make it easier to kill people
BFV gameplay, in the feeling sense, removed a majority of those issues
BFV gunplay is oversimplified BF1 gunplay
@oblique parcel I'm typing
BFV gunplay has no real depth
It has no depth
cats are needy π©
in BF1, people tended to click really slow with SLRs to avoid spread increase
BFV just removed spread increase for semis altogether
BF1 LMGs had reverse spread to reward sustained fire
BFV LMGs have no spread increase whatsoever to reward sustained fire
It's a real problem when you pull out say a Lewis and just dump 97 rounds down range
Semis didn't need spread in the first place tbh, if my initial shot is at the head
that's where I expect it to be
If they aren't dead they sure as hell are spotted
people complain about BFV SARs being obscene
And everyone with line of sight will light that up
i loooove losing fights using an slr to a lewis standing ADSing and spraying at me...while I cant hit him because reasons 
Yay I have to play Firestorm to get xp this week
Recoil is random within a parameter
Yayyyy
which is fine
spread is random within a parameter as well
but adding bullet spread makes it enclosed and makes guns have certain niches
BFV reduced that thankfully
Recoil is a lot better than spread tbh. At least the bullets are going where the gun is aimed.
removing spread altogether and substituting it with recoil just leads to screen shake
yes, your bullets go where you aim
but it would be hard to see where you aim
well not exactly









