#battlefield-legacy-titles
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@mystic wolf banned
the flame troopers in bfv are stronger than the star wars ones
eeeeeeeeeee
God I want a primary AT rifle for recon
theres flame troopers in bf5??????????????????????????????
They're giving medic that weird grenade rifle right?
lol
bf has us bias for sure
whats that weird grenade rifle
honestly
Can't wait for maps with 10 sherman tanks and 2 tigers at the end of WW2
That could provide an incentive to give recon an AT rifle right?
the tank battles in world war 2 were very asymmetrical
Just give us the MAUS 
For being an company focused on "diversity" and stuff like that, DICE is oddly Anglo-centric
and let me customize it like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/376364850349080596/558591812881612800/19fbbc415a250f14541612d8a935a270.png
gib me262
An AT rifle with a bayonet, a stealth combat role, flares, spawn beacon, webley and knives
this is why they removed custom emotes
would be my ideal loadout

because the internet is a lovely place
ArmA community is strange
war thunder
thats basically a spear
My ideal..
thats why
No point in the Maus existing if the Sturmtiger is already in the game
D:
u guys seen the lovelive bf109 skins in warthunder?
weebn't
and I want the tracks to be pink
Fall 2019, New Theater of War, YES YES YES YES, BANZAI BANZAI
Lemme get emblems back so I can post my anime girl on the side of the tank and my rifle 
Wake Island!!!
xd
BANZAIII

Kamikaze
Wwii Japan was less anime and more war crimes
Are you happy
no
they hated him cause he spoke the truth
How do people know to come to the discord to ask questions and not check #game-news or the subreddit?
@versed notch This is completely true
😏
@versed notch how do you take a pic of that
trusted role
Oh
@amber notch have u seen girls und panzer
I just want a US vs Japan game on Wake Island, that's all I ask.
i knew pow was a weeb
That’s a porn website isn’t it @versed notch
i knew it.
Or maybe throw in a bit of Okinawa here and there, maybe Pearl Harbour, lmao
You troller
no it isn't lmao
dude i have 100 miku figurines
why did you think it was a porn website 
Share “x”
fr tho when i was a kid i made a model bf109g10 and painted it retarded colors
i wish i had a body pillow
Respect the emperor
Cuz I watch X VIDEOS
fair enough
when I watch porn
they're so comfy
woah there
xd
let's keep this chat BF related
Let's talk Battlefield you buffoons.
Sir yes sir
you would probably buy a body pillow of a bayonet
i found a long pillow in my closet and its my body pillow now
lets be real
wait where's that image of a body pillow sniper rifle
@pearl siren I miss you
I have a spongebob body pillow thats literally all yellow and has his face in the dead center
@soft storm ?
The day Pacific Theater gets announced is the day I play Kimigayo on full speaker.
It's the only way I can say I spend my nights wrapped around a bayonet without having the scars to show for it
Its not that type of body pillow
Damn
please, do not stoop that low.
@versed notch i came
I know
Guys I have gotten over 1,000 kills with the zh and still not “secret objective” completion for either of the last mastery assignments. What’s up with that?
Add the f-117
it's tempting.
Or add the Su-30
wait hol up
Or even better
that aint a kar98
The B2 bomber
b2 is in bf4
@pearl siren Mosin 🤷
No it ain’t
@versed notch post it
It should be in bfv
post this? 
TFW no US vs Japan til fall 2019. 
😠

tfw we're gonna get the zero
tfw max agility
Someone’s about to be put in the fucking oven
@cedar bronze That's right, new theater of war at 2019 fall.
I will outturn you all
tfw were gonna be able to use japanese meme tanks
Alright
all japanese tanks are memes
Buffing FG-42
omg the chi to
That's a meme and a half
Buff an already really good gun
just realised ayla distorted avi
I lost my shit in a voice chat when i saw the notes
FG42 wot
Of all the things they didn't change they seriously decided the fg42 was in a bad enough place to need a buff?
What to heck
they buffed it
For the glory of the empire.
God it’s been ages since I’ve played BFV
dont go back
if you really like Sherman tanks @amber notch then watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpJ8EoGmLuE
Gav & Dan are at a tank range using the latest and greatest in projectile tracking technology. Combined with the Phantom cameras, they get some absolutely su...
Someone knows the correct way to build their fg42
You can't be a weeb if anime doesn't exist during WW2. :tapshead:
guys i think dice is playing 4d chess with us

inb4 this is an alternate universe where anime already exists
theyre trying to kill the game as fast as possible
what is anime
Aight I’ll take your word for it
it is
says YOU
XD GOTEM
I'm not a weeb
I don't even know what an animes are
ikr man
@versed notch Omg I love that video

wait post that tank again @versed notch
that Maus?

I wonder if DICE will recognize the weeb community wanting their guns to be pink and tanks to be pink 
smh

It's for a tactical reason okay


it take the hetzer over combined arms
If the whole rest of my team has proper camo
This big pink lighthouse will grab the enemies attention
It's for strategy!
u guys would love this https://live.warthunder.com/feed/all/?q=#anime
Günter is the only model acceptable
war thunder anime
girly air force
there's so many weebs there
honestly
they have a shipgirl on a plane
what the fuck
people overly attached to killing devices and events that killed millions of people are also highly attached to shows with incredibly cutesy little girls
Warthunder is officially one of the most weeb communities I've seen
there's probably something someone could say about that
😊
CSGO and League and Dota are up there at no.1
then again they're free to play
Osu was made by a weeb for weebs
osu is literally weeb content
Australian weeb as well 
Are the americans coming?
league and dota have enough anime influence to count
confirmed america
@solid hinge yes
Not very #battlefield-legacy-titles related is this 
i always forget how big of a weeb pow is
CSGO are filled with edgy weebs now that I think about it
trust me I know 
its literally referencing the US being introduced into the game
Oh ok, i hope they add the russians by the end of the year
Titan mode
when the american's with their shermans arrive 
and ppl still b sayin that russia is getting added
tiger 1 vs sherman jumbo firefly
twirling on point
it was funny
sherman jumbo firefly is a fair match for a tiger 1
refers to the Supreme strat of stationary drifting on objectives to deflect all enemy fire
its literally a joke
tiger needs increased damage

but it still bug with dusting
You better be talking about war thunder
no damage to other tank
Tiger is already a beast in this
With someone who has good aim
@amber notch we will see in fall 😃
Flying with less drag is weird
what they wiil do with sherman
Yes they do
they don't turn naturally it's all stuttering and awful
I struggled getting a ju88 off my 6 today it was wierd
same!
How about let's just start with fixing the jerking in the tank while on flat ground !
Like i couldnt climb away
So its like fighters= bombers in steering its the same now??
Or turn
had a VB with agility spec and the Ju-88 was out-turning me
Preaty much
absolutely couldn't get it off my ass
Or a brit bomber doing that to me in the G-2
All you can do is keep your speed up
Speed wins now
That slow shit dont work
so why they dont copy all this things??
They need to make fighters more maneuverable
Like turning a brick with wings
We just gonna have to adjust till they fix it again
Im #130 on leader board on ps4 lol il manage (pilot)
I fly fighters majority of time mosquitos are everywhere
The ju88c was disappointing af
Hard af to unlock it because of mosquitos lol
yeah
Went 49-0 in spitfire on twisted still the va
o jesus
Course it was on break through
moster 😄
fighters aren't as rewarding when the enemy bails all the time
bfv isnt as easy to get long killstreaks imo
No shit
havent gotten any good ones

i had like a 40 streak in the beta
I hardly fly bombers lol
flex @amber notch
My best in Infantry was 34-0
I have 2-0 killstreak 😛
I dont use vehicles 
has the statbot died? @amber notch
probably
maybe ban ?? 😛

oh i have a 39 killstreak
For ju88x
Ju88c*
I got i think a 54 kill streak on rush
Tiger tank i believe il have to find the screen shot
i played bf4 for the first time in a couple months earlier and dropped 160 in attack heli gunner
I played bf4 yesterday when I realized bf4 gunplay sucked ass
it was fun re learning how to tv missile throughout the match
I sucked in helis
yeah i only play vehicles in bf4 lol
i think i got like 4 service stars in that one match
based opinion @versed notch
and a 200% boost
BF4 is fantastic as a package, gunplay is meh
yeah
Lol
Aim at someone's chest
I miss the A-10
Oh look a headshot
I miss sweet spot from bf1
I guess
in 3x scope way
The ads with ar in bf4 feels like I'm playing if csgo had ads
BF4 = microburst
BFV = magdump
i wish planes in bf4 were like bf1 and v
same thing, effectively
I guess
microburst is just magdump with extra steps
like the a10 would be so good if it wasnt just jdam=profit
Then again I really liked bf3 gunplay 😛
yeah, BF3 gunplay was good
BF1 did a lot of things well
killed microburst and magdump (except LMGs)
i think bfv haa the best gunplay because suppression in 1, 4, and 3 were atrocious
BF1 suppression is like nonexistent
2 bullets skimmed you? Here, you're now someone with near sighted vision without glasses
doesn't kick in until long range
They need to hurry up an bring the american vs japaneese
Not till june
I wanna fly a mustang
Jokes on you, it’s not coming in June.
It’s coming in the fall!
Freakin sucks next battlefield will be coming out lol
No.
i hope they add something like the L-class destroyer
next battlefield wont be coming out this year
We need ww2 ships
We haven’t had a one year after another Battlefield release since the last 2000’s.
muh yamato 
The Next Battlefield is coming at the earliest Winter 2020.
Well, Early Winter/Late Fall 2020
Lol
The circle is already predetermined
let me fire bomb tokyo already
So like 80% of the map at max is used in the beginning
Be cool to experiment a operations style mode on firestorm
Obviously couldnt use the whole thing
Meh, the Firestorm map isn’t made for CQ.
Oh boy the shitposts in the bfv subreddit
On the maps
Let's have 2 galaxies be the spawn and another galaxy as a point
You love that emote
People are pissed that the release of the Pacific is coming in half of a year.
well yeah

this fucking game is awful
@sleek verge Do I know you?
fps is terrible
not to derail this but is anyone else having a hell of a time trying to play at all?
trash fucking game
do you?
@sacred hull Whine
lmao
Top tier
I feel like I do. @sleek verge

hm
Hmmmm
not ringing a bell
are the servers shitting themselves for anyone else?
im joining the best ping servers and still get massive amounts of lag
had no trouble the other day
I didn't play today because I worked from 12 to 6
i didnt play today bc roadmap made me depresion
I liked the roadmap considering it's all free, I wouldn't be surprised if we had three years with this game rather than just 2.
hardcore combined arms
Okay i have seen a lot of people saying bf1 service was better and to that I say
Lol no
limited time duos in firestorm
We didnt get shit for a year
Until the french
Then another big gap
Until the russians
Then
In a few firestorm videos I saw new outfits that are not in game yet
Turning tides was a mess
I don't understand the fuss against hardcore combined arms
Then apocalipse was wack
It was pretty easy
@icy sluice people dont like dying to AI bots 
bc people were asking for hardcore in regular mp
@rocky verge Fragile Masculinity
@icy sluice

dying to a bot tbh is a soul crushing experience
It's different teams working for different teams
When I die to a bot I'm like meh there just a computer
Like, the people working on combined arms is different from the overall MP people
I play single player games all the fucking time
ik
Only if the bots were real teammates on MP
Rarely die on harder difficulties but still, yay difficult
That do stuff
but there was nothing in roadmap so say hardcore mp

Back then I was playing CoD and Battlefield 2
lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/b4covb/bfv_data_mining_first_5v5_game_mode_details/
man these gadgets better make it into normal MP
knee mortar yes pls
AT rifle
radio jammer
double barrel flare gun
Oh man who else loves live services
That mode looks pretty sick actually
New theatre in October let's go boys
An entire year of Uni before we get a new theatre
Then only one year of support left
Epic
what is the best smg right now?
Super debatable
But personally MP40
No you're not wrong
But different ones do different things so it's mostly just what does well with you
alright thanks 😃
Suomi and Thompson are probably your best bets for close range
MP40 does have a longer range with also solid hipfire
But it has some drop-off damage
MP34 doesnt have nearly as much drop-off damage so it beats it for long range
the Thompson specialized for hipfire is an absolute beast
Don’t know why I haven’t done that before
I never specialise for hipfire since it's normally pretty solid even without it
Obviously makes it more reliable but yknow
If there is anything I do like about BFVs weapons the most it's that a lot of it is left up to personal preference
It is, a lot of things work quite well with medic actually
nah BFV still has a lot of idiot trap loadouts
not as bad as BF4
but it still exists
I normally don't use smoke unless it's for revives or helping the team push into somewhere
Tru
yep.
KHT certainly has some things to say about the de lisle
@midnight nimbus aren't you excited for it

As much as I’ve played with it in the campaign, it’s pretty fun
i was wondering why i got text in combined arms talking about suppressed weapons

lol
kinda hope it has absolutely massive drop to make it funny to attempt to snipe with
it does
i know it will have a lot
280 m/s velocity
but i want it to have an extreme amount
woooooo
i remember using that one semi-auto sniper rifle in BF4 and supressed it. so shooting at 1,000m zero would fling the bullet upwards at about 70degrees from the muzzle
If only
was hilarious
but only 2HKs to 30m
how about headshots?
Oh no :(
it's literally worse than the webley
Buff the de lisle
well it has a better OHSK than the Webley
not that that's incredibly relevant
just don't play medic
ok i guess that's SOMETHING
why'd they give the only silenced gun to medic?
If you're flanking as medic without the capability of killing an entire squad you're throwing
Of course medic getting the shit end of the stick. Meanwhile assault gets 395959 Assault Rifles and DMRs that have faster bullet velocity than dedicated sniper rifles and 20+ round magazines with 3 shot kill
At least give it to recon
SMGs should've just been all class
so you can play spec ops with recon
or CQB fragger with assault
No one would use them if they were all class
i don't see how that's an issue
i wouldn't mind running a thompson with my ammo crate
You'd have an entire class of weapons not being used due to the clear assault meta
BF3 did it right
assault wouldn't be meta if explosives and midrange weapons were better distributed
ofc assault will be meta when you concentrate all explosives and midrange guns to them
Give dynamite back to Recon and make the frag launcher take up the space of a PIAT/Panzerfaust
@midnight nimbus remember archetypes tried to do that but people said it was too restrictive
Just like they complained about suppression
no
So you don't have 2 stupidly powerful anti infantry splash cannons with 0.00001 second deploy times
you can turn that off with low enough graphics settings though
i like quick deploy launchers, makes high APM gameplay more interesting
Suppression doesn't do anything anymore because people complained about it working as it should
That's gay
Tbh even the fans have no idea what they want with the game
yeah i still use the MMG's and suppress cuz its fun
hilarious how MMGs shoot at you thinking that they're suppressing
they snipe right back tho
People aren't supposed to run out of ammo and swap to a handheld mortar!
pretty annoying
then you just insta delete them with the AG m/42

Bruh but my extra 10 req from suppresing 👺
i just use Bren
more bullets is more fun anyway
suppress just long enough to spot
Perfect example of a weapon with stupid power
and you don't need a bipod for good accuracy
Suppression is only good for spotting now as machine gunner
thats half why i do it
Not as dumb as Gewehr 43 strength but still
spots people for the team
G43 is big overrated
MG1922 is pretty excellent at supression for the team spots
i don't use MMGs for spot
they're not accurate enough to get close enough to the head for long range spots
Imagine not using all support guns for spotting
MMG, only reason I use them is if I want brainless run and gun lmao
and you can't engage/disengage fast enough
^
im working up to the MG42 adn using teh MG1922 until then
MG42 1200rpm 
^want that
It just sounds too good but I want the fuckin drum mag for the 42
It doesn't have one
I know
would be cool to have those 50rnd assault drums
yeah, 50 round MG 42 should've used the drum mag
That's why I'm complaining
get a slightly faster reload or something
It'd be worth more of a damn
The extended mags should have slower reloads
extended mag reload is fine
belt is a belt. doesn't matter much how long it is
^
extended mag gives up a lot
awkwards
I find it absurd that a massive cookie tin magazine carrying 97 rifle rounds can be reloaded as fast as a dinner plate with half that many bullets
Sad
unrealistic reload time is great
realistic reload time doesn't work w/ the pacing of the game
there was a series about seeing how viable WWI MG's were between forgotten weapons and C&Rsenal. the lewis was very tricky to reload sometimes
You can reload a Lewis pretty fast tho irl
can
At least with 47 drum
if you do it right
The Lightening Project
Yep
I hope they do one for WW2
Plus I just love seeing Ian with dumb French weapons
Othias literally walks like the Juggernauts from the COD series when shooting the MG08/15
that was pretty funny
I hope we get the Chauchat soon
His body is built for large weapons handling
gotta see a modern version where he wears some proper armor and lugs around an M249 like he did that MG08
he would be an absolute unit
Ian reloaded the Chauchat at Spetsnaz speed
His Francophile side really showed then
Fully developed in the game files and being added in as "content" later on
Dabmin and Hydra... have you heard that medics are getting grenade launchers?
they are removing it from the assault arent they
Nope
NO?!
TOW Unlock called the Tromboncino
fuck fjell 152
Could have sworn I had that in the beta.
what the fuck?
Forgotten Weapons did something on it at one point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTT3Vmfu--w
In 1928, the Italian army adopted a rifle-mounted grenade launcher. It was a potentially interesting weapon which wound up being fatally handicapped by the u...
fuck it
yes lets not change the current meta, lets keep having assault run around with dual fatman launchers
like what the fuck?
I am just curious on how the Tromboncino will work
Meanwhile support gets to snipe enemy from any distance
it has caused me more anger then school shooters existing
laughs in infinite ammo server
infinite ammo servers were hilarious nonsense
I mean why develope a new grenade launchers when they can just add the one from assault over to Medic, and actually focus on getting out a New map...¨
It's gotta have something unique to it
i want a map that takes place in berlin and one that takes place in mother russia
i thought that some cold rain stopped them from coming over there?
I find the roadmap alright for it being free
them = mr.smallmustacheman army
I would rather pay for premium. and have 4 new maps by now
lmfao we wouldn't.
Even with Battlefield 1 it took us a while to get the first dlc
It took us how long to get the French?
premium: some cosmetics you have to care about because you spent $20 on this so fucking enjoy it and we will enjoy your money
Idk about bf1, didnt jump on that game and i regret that, Played mostly bf4 then.
But it took them 5 months to get out the first dlc?
Yes hello enjoy base game first maybe?
Practically, also lemme just say the one really really shit thing about premium
Also they gave free Giants SHadow
with crossbow launcher
with compatible game mode
s
I rarely got to play any of the dlc maps until premium became free
I never touched Supply Drop in Battlefield 1 even as a premium holder
Lupkow Pass and Zeebrugge were my least played maps and I ended up playing the base maps more than the dlc maps even when Premium came free 10x
I think there was a map I never touched, there might've been one
But yea raptor bf5 realeased in november right?
Albion, I never touched Albion.
Imagine if they didn't delay it for a month 🤔
yea
Ironically, I would've loved to touched Albion, but I never got matched with it
but yea raptor, its been 5 months since the release date of bfv, so i think by now i would have had 4 new dlc maps
oh yea, by now if they stuck with DLC packs, they could've released 1-2 packs by now
Fair but, I probably wouldn't be able to play like two of them
but yea i support the live service, but it feels just so empty
probably USSR with Eastern Europe maps and probably wester front with Americans
Like I said, even with how long Battlefield 1 has been out and I've played it a fuckton, not even touching every single map and mode because they were held back by pay-walls... ehh...
Also, it was insanely rare to touch dlc maps especially in the early stages
When ITNOTT came out, it was wait in queues of like 3 or 4 (even with premium priority) or just play the base game
Yeah that sounds bad
This game should not put you back into a god damn match you just left because your team is outnumbered by 12
Because the servers were just playlists of either base or the dlcs
That's why I use server browser
One could argue back then I could quick match but 
I don't think I wanna end up in an empty server, try again and then it happens at least thrice in a row
Because that's what happened, the matchmaking system went "Fuck, it's either queue or put him in with this one other man"
So, not only am I able to get the maps for basically free, I am able to fucking play them in full servers just fine.
I like this trade-off for less content, the fact that I am able to actually assess it
What pisses me off the most is that every match it doesn’t switch players around
It does so whenever it feels like it
So you’re either on the winning team or the losing team
Either your team can use their brain cells or they don’t know how to get oxygen to their brain

I guess I can't harrass mods here huh?
battlefield just hecked itself over.
facts
Good thing my ranting for liking TOW over premium shit has been done for no reason because people like to yell
I would rather take premium tbh
I do not like this live service
I think its partly because there is all these models ready to go in the datamind files
and like
why isnt it in the game
its got the sounds, the models

feelsbadman
When you enter a battlefield game and you play some matches with headphones on then theres that one match were you get put into a squad and the guys mic is just echoing and you can hear him talking to his family or friends and then theres that sound of him groaning or grunting or clearing his throat. you leave the game 10 seconds later
You can always mute
Yah, but thats the part when someone else gets kicked and then they do it. then it constantly happens I just listen to the cringe then tell them to mute the damn mic if your not gonna talk to anyone.
I had someone doing that in td2...like had his game sound all the way up and his mic was picking up EVERYTHING so i hear my sound and then his echoing way too loud lol..couldnt mute the moron fast enough
Where could I find sort of guides to get good
Not basic stuff, like the meta for bf5
Or any big strats really
Why don't blatent hackers like kta_seyak get banned? invisible hack in bf1, aimbot, full auto sniper etc
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Sup
It seems the populations of potatoes on panzerstorm have increased
Game just starts and team loses everything 
Good to know
It's only good when your not paired up with then
@shrewd grove if they did a similar system to how division 2 is doing i would be happy
uwu
there is a season pass, but you only get the dlc 7 days early, and everything else is free
I would too
That'd be better than both premium or live service
Because I don't want to cut people off from things but also don't want, yknow, this
they should take all feedback onboard, because this system has kept Rainbow 6 going for almost 4 years
Ok bf1 system was wayyyy worse
We didnt get shit for 9 months
The russian dlc also took time
Turning tides was a mess
Yeah they just need a middle ground, and what POW was just describing sounds like it could be it if they could actually make it work
And apocalypse felt wack as hell
@shrewd grove they can make it work easily, and just make it so the Lootboxes can be earned from playing the game normally
same as division 2 has done
They'd find a way to fuck it up I imagine lol
In all honesty @strong pecan Hardline also took time
Yet bf4 was fucking wack at launch
And
Look at it now
Most favorite game for the community
Besides bfbc2
at this point, I wish BFV could just reskin and recycle maps
BFH maps are so good and deserve to be in a mainstream BF game
True
But this aint call of duty were we re use the same map for 10 years straight
However
That would be nice
I like how my squad got top squad as 3 recons and 1 pilot.
Flag running for days with spawn beacons
Technically you could despite my hatred for the map
I'd rather have a map similar to zeeburger
Just bought the game woohoo

It was down to like 30$
You have your metro feel without having to constant funnel
I was like why not.
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@versed notch go back to anime
we already have it

its fjell
Them hallways
No
I mean realistically it is just locker with planes
Maps have to make sense and zeeburger is the only one that comes to mind
Unless there is a map themed on concentration camp
So ummm
Pashendale was smooth as hell
Best mape of the whole game
Hell, even my fav of all time
zeeburger?
Hello
Hello
Zeeburger is a map from battlefield one
You mean
BF V anyone?
Zeebrugge?
Yes
Zeeburger 
Zeebrugge? I do not reckon.. Can you explain it
Yeah, go to #lfg-xbox #lfg-pc or #lfg-playstation to find games @drowsy cape
it's a Turning Tides map
I dunno I wanted to talk bout it.
Oh
@versed notch as a turkish guy I am very happy there is an ottoman dlc.
AHA
Np I phrased it wrong.
Gallipolli is a historical battle and it is nice seeing it remembered.
If they did do a metro thing for BFV they could easily just make it some underground train station
I've i7 8th gen and gtx 1050 ti, and I'm playing at medium game settings on which i used to get around at least 60 fps but now my fps dropped to 30 sometimes below 30 with same settings
do people still think chapter 5 is the US 
I wouldn't be surprised if we get Jebaited and it ends up being Poland
with no season pass, content for the game is being release so slowly
whack
Aight bf1 who i paid for wich gave me nothing for 9 months straight then tienes into a mess
BaTlEFiELd 5s LiVe SeRvIcE Is sToOPiD uUuU
Yet forgets about how every battlefield starts wack










is bigly good
