battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

Russians were their own creature

they were with the Allies after the Betrayal on Germany

but even then

they still did alot of atrocities

[idle breach]

you're refering katyn forest

[solid hinge]

I do see Soviet sympathizers nowadays so I like to keep my eyes peeled.

Rapes?

Massacres?

[fathom pebble]

Who would win

[brisk bear]

I know the soviets were bad but save the world, thanks to the industry

[dusky saffron]

No.

[idle breach]

and please, russia and USSR was not exactly same

[solid hinge]

@brisk bear Your asking for us to nuke yah

[fathom pebble]

italy with tanks and weapons
Some native africans with bows and arrows

[dusky saffron]

Soviets aren't on the good side lmao

[solid hinge]

@fathom pebble Ethiopians

[dusky saffron]

And practically haven't been ever

[solid hinge]

Soviets were there just so we didn't get cucked

It was

[brisk bear]

@solid hinge yeah 😂 😂 😂

[solid hinge]

Enemy of my enemy is my friend

[idle breach]

depends on what you believe but I'm just saying russians are not the only one in USSR

[solid hinge]

Alien

USSR is Soviets

Until they point nukes at you just years afterwards.

[idle breach]

yeah

[fathom pebble]

the italian army with superior lasagna weaponry
Some greeks in debt

😩

[dusky saffron]

Speaking of Greeks

[solid hinge]

Greeks

[idle breach]

yeah, it's the union of socialistic soviet republics

[dusky saffron]

Greece and Poland is fining Germany

[solid hinge]

Zeus i summon thee

[dusky saffron]

for war reparations finally

[solid hinge]

why lol

[dusky saffron]

and that's good

[solid hinge]

Seriously?

this late in?

[dusky saffron]

Ye

[solid hinge]

What can they do to make Germany pay up?

God I'm surprised

[dusky saffron]

Germany never helped restoration

[solid hinge]

Well

[dusky saffron]

And they're doing shit currently

[solid hinge]

they were occupied

for like

What if they say no?

how long

they were basically Vichy Germany

West and East

[dusky saffron]

If they say no, there would probably be bordering issues

[solid hinge]

*Blitzkrieg 2.0

lmao

Russia would definetly join in

You know Putin

lmao

Germany is in no position to fight Europe today.

[dusky saffron]

^

[solid hinge]

Ik

[brisk bear]

The urss make tanks for Germany the first panzer and the second late the italian put a breda 20mm guns, one of the best italian gun

[solid hinge]

lol

America already have troops stationed for defensive purposes.

[idle breach]

GDR was more like a puppet state

western germany was kinda not

at least after the 50's

[solid hinge]

Whether or not that should still be the case is a whole other matter.

[idle breach]

they even tried to participate in nuke race

although failed

People like Franz Strauss and CSU were always trying to make german back in full independent form and they kinda made some success

SPD were more likely to follow the 'winner' side but they were clearly not some bootlickers

[stoic breach]

👽

[swift ember]

Hyped for Chapter 3 trial by fire

[stoic breach]

I'm hyped for an update roadmap

Hopefully this Friday

[swift ember]

i was told there is a possible map for greece coming to BF5

[stoic breach]

Greece has been confirmed

[jagged vector]

There is a Greece map planned for the next chapter of ToW

[swift ember]

oh yay

[stoic breach]

The "possible" map is France

[swift ember]

we need mor exotic locations i think

[jagged vector]

Greece & Firestorm confirmed. Provence, France is not confirmed, but basically leaked

[stoic breach]

Yeah, thats why its possible

[swift ember]

like russia or something greece too

[jagged vector]

Russia would appear later in the war. We’re barely into 1940 at this point

[swift ember]

i would be happy if there was one in Italy

but yeah we got a long way to go

[jagged vector]

There’s a UI bug claiming the map people are playing on is Sicily

So that’s a possible leak

[swift ember]

oh ok

[stoic breach]

I saw that

[swift ember]

yay

[jagged vector]

I mean the word shouldn’t be in the files unless it’s going to be a location

[stoic breach]

A few developers said it was a bug

[jagged vector]

👏Very🤔Sus👏

[stoic breach]

Also apparently the next update is gonna make changes to planes

[jagged vector]

I hope it’s physics

[stoic breach]

Jaqub Ajmal tweeted about it

Yeah same

[solid hinge]

@dusky saffron it's VERY fast

[jagged vector]

They feel like gliding bricks

I can almost drift the JU88

And not in a fun way

[dusky saffron]

@solid hinge I go NYOOM

🚙

[stoic breach]

You can basically drift fighters

[solid hinge]

We're gonna have real planes!

[dusky saffron]

My dog tag collection

is updated

[idle breach]

think bf109 has tighter turn

[stoic breach]

Oh shit

I just realised something

I hope the Sterling and Welgun get light bolt upgrades

Otherwise we're gonna get more 500 rpm smgs

[idle breach]

yeah

will sicily map based on operation husky

[stoic breach]

I'm excited for the Madsen for support

[lavish beacon]

I can't use planes lmao. I don't even know how to get someone off my 6

[gray glade]

madsen has that one big FLAW

[idle breach]

name?

[stoic breach]

Bigmag

[gray glade]

yeah

[idle breach]

yeah

[gray glade]

the ridiculous mag right in front of your eyes

[idle breach]

madsen is a bad name

[stoic breach]

If you already use the Bren there'll be no trouble with the Madsen

[idle breach]

dice could make mag doesn't cover the sight

madsen or bren

[stoic breach]

The mag doesnt cover the sight anyways

[idle breach]

I mean the screen

anyway

they should just make the soldier goes

like this

no vision problem

[solid hinge]

maybe with plane changes we'll have actual dogfight

[idle breach]

just stretch neck

[stoic breach]

VB long neck

[solid hinge]

or maybe they'll fuck it up even worse

[idle breach]

pretty sure actual soldiers did that

I bet they would fix the fundamental issues in a way b ut

with some horrible bugs

[stoic breach]

The next update should be either tomorrow or the day after

Maybe today

[idle breach]

just wish they unlock some new cosmetics

[midnight nimbus]

@stoic breach Welgun gets light bolt

idk if it's the typical 2 step bump up, or if it's more than that

[stoic breach]

Alright

So the firerate is gonna be around 770 then?

With light bolt

@midnight nimbus

[midnight nimbus]

no idea, it's not finalized yet

[stoic breach]

Alright, well thanks anyway

[midnight nimbus]

it doesn't look like a compelling gun

[swift ember]

does anybody else rage when your ping is above 2000

in BF5

[shrewd grove]

A lot of us don't have it that bad I imagine

[swift ember]

well it happens to me sometimes

IT SUCKS

[stoic breach]

Whats your internet like

[swift ember]

its fine but there are anomalys

in it

when it just spases out

[elder dock]

[marble phoenix]

Got damn a 2k ping?

Homie using AOL before he deploy

[swift ember]

sometimes

[marble phoenix]

And Lycos search engine to find servers

[unborn blaze]

@swift ember ever seen over 9999?

I have, and it's weird

[swift ember]

no but ive got a third of that sooo

Damage level over 9999

[main grove]

Why are 3x scopes still allowed on other classes?

[swift ember]

idk

idc

[main grove]

The amount of 3x MASes are starting to proper piss me off

[swift ember]

i main support but i play other classes for cosmetics

[dense bone]

play whatever is fun

[weak violet]

I do randomly get like 5000 to 10000 ping

Sup Nyphon

[dense bone]

GO WIRED TRVOR

[weak violet]

Oh yeah let me send you the picture of what my computer looks like

Its in a different spot in the pick

[scenic beacon]

when you play console

[dense bone]

you can play wired on console

[scenic beacon]

but should i tho

what if i wanna play on a samsung smart fridge, huh?

ree

[azure lark]

I hope DICE takes notes "Introducing better reporting when Apex crashes on PC without error message."

[marble phoenix]

Apex gasseddddddddd

[azure lark]

I want better error reporting for when BFV crashes with no errors

[swift ember]

https://tenor.com/view/bf5-battlefield5-crafter-firestorm-ring-of-fire-gif-13733091

[untold cliff]

🙂

okay

[stoic breach]

I'm excited

[untold cliff]

your excited

[shut walrus]

What happens when it crashes? Just random or is it after something specific happens?

[stoic breach]

Idk

[weak violet]

Sup

[dense bone]

hola trvor

[glass bobcat]

Hello there

[weak violet]

Don't you just love it when you crash in a CA game

[dense bone]

yes

i dont like CA

[weak violet]

I mean i want to finish all of them

That is my main challenge for right now

[dense bone]

you said we did the hardest one right?

[weak violet]

Other then getting gud with snipers

[glass bobcat]

anyone willing to help a bit? I have a couple of questions.

[weak violet]

Nyphon currently their is another one

[dense bone]

damnit

[weak violet]

You know how the last one we had no cover and 2 med tanks rolled up

Well this time its the same but worse

[dense bone]

@glass bobcat i can help depending on what is needed

[weak violet]

4 medium tanks

With no cover

[dense bone]

hmm, so wed need an assaul

can put sticky dynamite down to take 1 out as it comes in

[weak violet]

I think support is better

[dense bone]

throw /shoot down another

[weak violet]

As even before we get to the final stage

[dense bone]

with support taking out 1 and resupplying the assault

[glass bobcat]

alright cheers, so Im thinking of buying the game and its on a 50% discount atm (yay) but for how long is it in a discount and what for?
Also found out that the game supposedly has a free trial, but when I click on the said free trial icon on Origin it takes me to buy Origin Access

[weak violet]

Their is 3 medium tanks defending the objectives we got to destroy

So even before we finish we gotta deal with 3 medium tanks, along with a alarm that we have to destroy

1 medium tank is under the bridge, 1 is guarding 2 objectives we have to destroy and another is on the way to the last objective

[dense bone]

@glass bobcat sale is pretty common afaik, im actually more surprised when its not on sale at this point. sale is for the game, there are no "base, delux, premier"... well technically there is but its not worth it at all as the bonuses are cosmetics that look similar to in game cosmetics. you get a free trial with origin access

[weak violet]

If the alarm gets tripped a tiger tank and a medium tank start to come to the objectives

Yeah so this one is even harder

[dense bone]

sounds dumb...

im never playing CA again

youd have to pay me

[weak violet]

Yes, which is why it is harder

@dense bone I will pay you with love

♥

[glass bobcat]

aye that sounds about right, did some googling on the benefits of the deluxe edition.

[weak violet]

There

Its a pre payment

[dense bone]

no thank you

[weak violet]

;((

[glass bobcat]

Last battlefield I bought was 4 and havent paid much attention to V since the beta, but I'm feeling like I'd want a decent ww2 shooter now

[dense bone]

no amount of love will get me to play CA again

[weak violet]

Ok, well we can atleast do some rush/breakthrough or GO

Did you really hate the last one we played

[hoary condor]

breakthrough is a fun gameplay

Don't know why people want Rush removed.. it's a fun quick game mode

[weak violet]

The last CA game we played, did ya really hate doing it?

[dense bone]

@glass bobcat so, it seems like history buffs talk down on bfv... personally it doesnt FEEL like a ww2 shooter to me (i only play online), but im no history buff either. i will say that i think bfv plays the best of any bf i have played, although optimization and bugs can be shoddy at time

[midnight nimbus]

i played half a round of Rush and asymmetrical vehicle count is just gross in BF

DICE doesn't do it well

[weak violet]

@dense bone Was it that bad?

[midnight nimbus]

especially with how BFV tanks are designed

[dense bone]

i didnt hate it, i just didt really enjoy it

[hoary condor]

It's one of the best fps out

[midnight nimbus]

FPS rn isn't all that though

[hoary condor]

compare it to shit like cod

[weak violet]

Can see why, the bot are annoying to die to

[hoary condor]

Trev. go to bed..

[weak violet]

And the tank that kept you down for like a solid 2 min

Squid i will

Later

xD

[glass bobcat]

Yeah Im aware of the not very historical aspects, could stick to BF4 but yanno 🤔

[dense bone]

its just bots, so theres just a system to beating it, and i dont care for that kind of gameplay

[weak violet]

I mean we did die to them a bit

[dense bone]

i like playing vs people because theres no "you gotta do this to win"

[weak violet]

Like we lost 4 times

[hoary condor]

I think is awesome, you can nit pick all you want, but the moans that moan still play it

[weak violet]

And the last one we played had no set area to win

[dense bone]

yea, but its like a knowledge vs skill thing

and im not about figuring out tactics vs bots

[midnight nimbus]

> i like playing vs people because theres no "you gotta do this to win"
i mean in BF, you definitely have this, especially w/ friends

[hoary condor]

true, if you ave a group of players, that know how to strategically play.. gg

[midnight nimbus]

you only really need two players

[dense bone]

im talking in the way that vs bots its more knowledge vs skill

[midnight nimbus]

or ideally 4

[hoary condor]

O.. yeah defo

[glass bobcat]

I mean I play world of tanks so historical accuracy isnt really a huge deal, unless its literally germans and brits figthing against the russians on Wake island with french tanks

[dense bone]

vs bots if you walk this direction at this timing youre dead

[weak violet]

@dense bone Well are you willing to squad up to play some rush

Got some challenges to complete

[midnight nimbus]

two players = run bomber + recon on the ground spotting
no planes = tank + rep monkey
four players = V-1 boost

as a solo player, you don't have a way to meaningfully influence win odds alone

[hoary condor]

is there a new challenge for this week? Haven't had time to look and on shit train wifi 😢

[weak violet]

Yeah, most of them but 1 i completed in CA

Now @dense bone Are you willing to squad up today

[hoary condor]

new tow?

[weak violet]

Its for the allys, a bomber

They are just as op as the german ones

With them being able to AP mine your spawn

and having that 6pdr with them

[dense bone]

i wont be on today

gf has today off

[weak violet]

Ok, let me see if i can at least get someone on from the last squad

[severe wraith]

Omg nyphon still alive

[hoary condor]

i prefer Gunter as a german

my Gunter looks good lol

[dense bone]

why wouldnt i be?

[hoary condor]

cos Trev is going to sleep

[severe wraith]

🤷

[dense bone]

should i be suspicious

[severe wraith]

Yes

I ordered a hit on you

[weak violet]

@hoary condor Just because of you i might stay up till 6

xD

[severe wraith]

Guess they didnt follow through

[dense bone]

can you give me a week or 2 so i can finish this game im playing first?

[severe wraith]

Time to hire a hitman on the hitman

Hmmm maybe

[dense bone]

please?

i just got it

[severe wraith]

If the hitman I hire to kill the hitman follows through, I'll hire him again, so it will be less than 2 weeks, but if he doesnt follow through, I will need to hire a hitman to kill the hitman who I hired to kill the hitman that I hired to kill you

Simple enough, right?

[dense bone]

as long as i can finish my game im good

[severe wraith]

[hoary condor]

hitman... who are you

[dense bone]

hes my hitman

[paper summit]

Hey

[hoary condor]

so what's the new tow assignment?

hey PDB 😃

[paper summit]

Suh

What you up to?

[hoary condor]

on the train home you?

[sour trail]

Arabs players ?

[dense bone]

!lfg

[junior mist]

:information_source: <> Looking for Players to play with? Head Over to the Looking For Group Channels in the (#LFG) Channel Category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[dense bone]

@sour trail

[hoary condor]

thanks dude

forgot the command

[sour trail]

Yes ?

[dense bone]

if youre lfg look at the command

[hoary condor]

follow the V1 info

[sour trail]

What lfg ?

[hoary condor]

looking for agame

on the left you can see the channels for pc/xbox/ps

[sour trail]

Thanks man ❤️

[hoary condor]

happy battlefielding

Can't wait to get on this weekend

have to shoot, train is ending soon .. shit service! happy gaming chaps!

[dense bone]

cant wait for

FIRESTORM

🔥

[hoary condor]

🔥

[haughty pawn]

🚰

[ancient ocean]

Oh shit only 6 more days.

[dusky saffron]

FIRESTORM

burning down the house

🔥 ⛈

[topaz dome]

I fell in to a burning ring of fire, I went down, down, down
And the flames went higher

And it burns, burns, burns
The ring of fire
The ring of fire

[ancient ocean]

Go to YouTube to do that

[dusky saffron]

Be nice yo

[ancient ocean]

I didn't mean it in a rude way

[dense bone]

they should have used burning ring of fire instead of that burning down the house song

[dusky saffron]

Literally could've used anything else then "stfu"

[dense bone]

but id imagine that would cost more

[ancient ocean]

Also I'm pretty sure the first day on this discord you where being rude to me

[dusky saffron]

It's ironic because a lot of regulars know that I dont mean my insults

🤷

[fathom pebble]

Stop

[mossy badge]

Well i have 3 and a half levels of ToW to do in the next 36 hours

yaaaay

[solid hinge]

hammer time

[shrewd grove]

[dusky saffron]

@mossy badge let's get that bread

what would even be the best gamemode

to grind out the tow levels

tdm is like 4k while conquest is 8k

avg

[hoary condor]

Please remove if not appropriate

[dense bone]

@hoary condor agreed

[hoary condor]

Thought it was funny lol

[dusky saffron]

made me chuckle

[hoary condor]

Anyway, catching 3rd train now.. should be home.. have a good one 🤘🏻

[dusky saffron]

MMG users pretty much scream "free melee kills"

have fun squid

[charred heron]

YoU cAn'T pLaY aGgReSsIvElY wItH aN mMg

[dense bone]

then dont pick it

[buoyant field]

new battlefield game logo

BF15

[sweet fulcrum]

[fathom pebble]

[solid hinge]

have they released any information about private servers or private matches? anyone know thanks

[sonic rampart]

@topaz dome lmao thanks now I have that song in my head lol. Love is a burning thing.. and it makes a fiery ring tenenenene tetete tenenenene tetete bringing me the wild desire.. I fell into a ring of fire

[open dock]

hi all. I was wondering if you could answer me this. On PS4, is there still somewhat of a community for battlefield hardline at all?

[lone horizon]

who the fuck just insulted my mmg baby

[dense bone]

everyone

[topaz dome]

[lone horizon]

[dusky saffron]

@open dock Ye

There should be people playing

last I checked it was a couple thousand

[sonic rampart]

Mmg sucks

[weak violet]

No u

[open dock]

thanks, was looking to pick it up

[weak violet]

:))

[sonic rampart]

Go camp in a corner with your mmg

[topaz dome]

in bf1 I used the assault machine guns as assault rifles

[sonic rampart]

[weak violet]

Nah bro real chads use MMGs aGGreSIVLY

[sonic rampart]

I can respect that..

[weak violet]

We ain't about that camping life

Leave that to snipers

[sonic rampart]

99% Camps with mmgs

[weak violet]

99 percent use MMGs aggressively, don't know were you got those from

[sonic rampart]

my deaths

[icy sluice]

99% of mmg campers suffer a headbutt from me

[echo bluff]

so when is the br coming out?

[topaz dome]

25th of march

[midnight nimbus]

2025

[echo bluff]

ty

[icy sluice]

What's in the medical syringes for these games? Essential Oils?

[marble phoenix]

lmaoooo

injecting fools with Rosemary and Saddlewood oils

[shrewd grove]

I'd imagine morphine

Maybe since the game is alternate history it's like something magic

[icy sluice]

lol

[shut walrus]

Most likely Epinephrine (adrenaline)

[midnight nimbus]

a nice heroin/meth blend

[shut walrus]

That would work terribly lol

[shrewd grove]

Need me my Flintstones chewable morphine

[granite star]

MMGS are good for defense

[icy sluice]

They are

[granite star]

Especially the MG42

[icy sluice]

I've been using other MMGs too and they're pretty good weapons

[main grove]

I kind of want a slow and steady MMG now

Sort of sick of the bullet hoses

[granite star]

mg34 works best

[main grove]

M1919 will hopefully replace MG34 for me

[granite star]

Or at least VGO

Which is another MMG but you need to buy it with CC

I have about 40,000

[midnight nimbus]

yeah M1919 replaces MG34

[granite star]

Mostly from saving it and leveling up to lvl 50

[midnight nimbus]

MG34 is pretty much the best MMG for MMG things (range)

M1919 does it better

[main grove]

I’d imagine it shoots slower and also has a pretty large belt

[slender crater]

am i right that there have been some server issues today here in Europe?

[midnight nimbus]

600 RPM and 250 round belt standard ye

and it gets rapid fire option

[main grove]

Aww

Kind of hoped it’d be a bit lower

[midnight nimbus]

rapid fire should put it at 670 RPM(?)

wait no 720 670 should be right

[main grove]

I reckon they should bring back the MG08/15 as a slow powerful MMG
Its model is already in the game

[midnight nimbus]

I mean it would really suck

bc it uses the same caliber as MG34/42

but at 430 RPM

[main grove]

Id say give it a damage boost to make up for it

[midnight nimbus]

damage always matches caliber

[main grove]

Calibur shouldn’t matter in this game

[midnight nimbus]

it does though

calibalance makes balance very easy

damage is tied to irl caliber and weapon type

[solid hinge]

An mp40

[main grove]

I just sort of wish weapons would have slightly more varied damages

[solid hinge]

Is the best

[midnight nimbus]

M1922 Hotchkiss needs to be an MMG. 30 rounds, 8mm Lebel gives it Chauchat damage model, and 450 RPM

you don't need to touch damage models to change damage output

that creates a ton of inconsistency

like CoD

[main grove]

All the LMG do the same damage
Same with the AR’s

[midnight nimbus]

damage output is regulated through spread and hrec, which is far more subtle

[main grove]

Bren and Lewis use 303.

[midnight nimbus]

why do Bren and Lewis need different damage models tho

[solid hinge]

The lewis is overpowered

[main grove]

Does KE7 use 8mm Mauser?

[midnight nimbus]

yes

[main grove]

I thought that 303 British should do a little less damage but lower recoil

[primal sage]

I have just realized the severity of needing to make 200 kills as a squad.

[midnight nimbus]

I mean the Bren already does have lower recoil

if it did less damage, it would suck

[solid hinge]

I have 150 already

[main grove]

I don’t want to change the balance of all the guns in the game

I just want a slow 3 shot MMG

[midnight nimbus]

Chauchat is coming

[solid hinge]

I dont like the mmgs at all

[midnight nimbus]

that's what you're looking for

[solid hinge]

New TOW in 7 days?

?

did this tow get extended?

No

New chapter

Trial By Fire

[stoic breach]

Jesus christ

Tank animations

Why are they so slow

[dusky saffron]

So I can shoot you when you come out

[slate zephyr]

Well over here in pasadena tx by deer park

I think we beat bfv to their firestorm br

https://youtu.be/bBU3cAzeQf4

[primal sage]

Wait.

How come there was such a huge gap between Overture and Lighting Strikes.

But the third TOW comes only after a week?

[stoic breach]

Christmas break

DICE are a company after all

[charred heron]

inb4 "We just wanted our actual Live Service Quest model first to see how well it'll make"

[scenic beacon]

Devs are people too!

[charred heron]

Remember: Don't drink and drive tanks or fly planes

[primal sage]

What was that? Drink and drive tanks?

[scenic beacon]

stares in russian disappointment

[primal sage]

YOU GOT IT.

I mean if a shitty tank driver drinks and drives...

...it's not like he can do worse.

[solid hinge]

JU88C cannon review

Uhh

[primal sage]

It sucks?

[solid hinge]

Dont use it on tanks

planes only

[primal sage]

Why?

[solid hinge]

Shitty dmg

[primal sage]

Like 20 DMG?

[solid hinge]

Its also broken

And back gunners are worthless

Screenshake is insane

You cant hit anythinf

It does 1 shot on blenheims and mosquitos

But it does 18 dmg on fighters

Thanks dice

[stoic breach]

The fucking visibility issue is unacceptable at this point

How has it only fixed pc

[jagged vector]

@solid hinge I kill tanks in about ~3 shots with the JU88C

[marble phoenix]

the visibility has been better

i still get caught off guard by a good camper

[jagged vector]

And for fighters, you need to hit the fuselage

[marble phoenix]

but i think its been improved a lot

[jagged vector]

I’ve hit the tail on the Stuka 4 times in a row in the mosquito. It did nothing. Then once in the fuselage and boom

[stoic breach]

I cant see anyone directly in front of me in dark spaces

There has been literally no improvement

[jagged vector]

I like the current visibility because it rewards intelligent positioning

[stoic breach]

No it doesnt

[jagged vector]

If you don’t see someone in a dark place it’s because they picked a good spot

[marble phoenix]

yup, can knock a good hiding spot

[weak violet]

Hello

[stoic breach]

An entire room shouldn't be completely dark

Its not my monitor either, I have full brightness and gamma

[jagged vector]

If the room doesn’t have a light source, it’s dark

[stoic breach]

And it still doesnt fix shit

[jagged vector]

Have you ever turned the lights off?

[stoic breach]

Its the floor of White House

[jagged vector]

The White House is lit only on 3 sides, there’s an upper story blocking light to the ground floor. If the windows are boarded up, there’s even less light

The pillars cast shadows also

[stoic breach]

Its not a complete dark room

[jagged vector]

Positioning in shadows, map geometries, and bushes is a viable tactic for ambushing

[stoic breach]

They werent ambushing

They were directly in front of me and I couldnt see them until they started firing

[solid hinge]

We r also going to ignore the fact that Spitfires are stronger than BF-109s

[jagged vector]

If you didn’t know they were there and you got killed, that’s an ambush

[stoic breach]

Its not an ambush if the intention was not an ambush

[jagged vector]

If you couldn’t see them, clearly the room was dark enough to make hiding viable

[solid hinge]

Now i know why i dont play this game a lot anymore

[jagged vector]

It’s not like they were literally invisible

[midnight nimbus]

visibility is decent enough with a config

[solid hinge]

I dont think il play it until the new tow

Why dice

[midnight nimbus]

screenshake slider is exciting

[solid hinge]

WHY CANT YOU MAKE BOTH TEAMS HAVE THE SAME SHIT

[jagged vector]

Turn that shake all the way up

@solid hinge that would make the game boring

[stoic breach]

I cant use a config on console

[charred heron]

@scenic beacon Ironically, being drunk is the only humane way to play any Battlefield game after Battlefield 1942

Just sayin

[solid hinge]

Omg spitfire is just as good as the bf109

So boooringgg

Balance is sooo boring

[charred heron]

I like the Shitfire

[solid hinge]

Blenheim is fun to you? @jagged vector

Go ahead

[jagged vector]

It’s called asymmetrical balance

[solid hinge]

Fly it

[charred heron]

Tho, Bf with the explosive 20mm shreds everything if used properly

[solid hinge]

Every time from now

Its fun isnt it

Having like

[jagged vector]

The only bomber I use is the cannon JU88

[solid hinge]

500kg of bombs

While the JU88A has like 3 tons in total

[charred heron]

Blenheim is trash, new Mosquito is good
Ju 88 A is good, Ju 88 C is trash

[jagged vector]

and cannon mosquito

[solid hinge]

Balancr

[charred heron]

Everything is balanced

[solid hinge]

BALANCE

[charred heron]

Thanos way

[scenic beacon]

@charred heron PING

[charred heron]

@scenic beacon

[scenic beacon]

And yes, the only truly acceptable way to play MOST of battlefield is a bit under tbh

[solid hinge]

Also

[midnight nimbus]

JU-88 looks sick with the 4x 20mm

it's like the AEK of the air

[solid hinge]

Brits having air superiority in 1940?

Suck my ass

[jagged vector]

The Brrrt pod

The British have planes that can counter German ones and vice-versa

[solid hinge]

No

[charred heron]

@solid hinge >implying Typhoon

Dice just doesn't know how to plane

[solid hinge]

sigh

I sometimes think that all devs r blind

Or

I better not say it

For every game

Not just bf

BF1 air combat was awesome

BACK GUNNERS COULD KILL PLANES

EVEN BOMBERS

And now...

[jagged vector]

The planes in BF1 were made of wood and canvas

[charred heron]

implying even 5% of the devs play BFV actively

Come on

[solid hinge]

Vehicle hit 6

[charred heron]

I'm used to some things since WoWs

[solid hinge]

While your bomber is at like

10hp

[jagged vector]

WWII planes were made of steel and aluminum (most of the time)

[charred heron]

Mosquito was made out of literal wood and hope

[solid hinge]

Oh so you wanna play that game?

Okay

[jagged vector]

It’s a fast wood

[charred heron]

Imagine Salamander

Jet made out of wood

[jagged vector]

Imagine PO-2

[solid hinge]

The 4000LB bomb is stronger than the V1 rocket

Now dice

Make it stronger than the v1

[jagged vector]

I’ve said it before

[charred heron]

Tho, wooden planes should shred like trash

While actual metal planes should be at least somewhat durable

[solid hinge]

Mosquito should have good firepower and shit HPPPPPPPPP

[jagged vector]

The 4000lb bomb cannot fit in the plane if there’s a 6lb cannon + autoloader in it

[solid hinge]

THATS BALANCE

[midnight nimbus]

BFV air is just the worst in the series

i can't even speak for air vs air that much bc i don't fly

but air vs ground and vice versa is awful

[solid hinge]

BF4 air combat also sucks ass

[charred heron]

But no, the new Mosquito with the Steel skin proves that wooden planes are getting stronger by attaching some useless french guns to it

Dice can't simply into planes

[midnight nimbus]

nah BF4 AH was excellently done

and scout heli

[charred heron]

Tanks somewhat, but not into planes

[solid hinge]

Yea

Helis were good

But planes

Nah

[midnight nimbus]

they were ok

[untold cliff]

The BFV air is probably some of the best shit ive ever used wym

[midnight nimbus]

better designed than BFV

[solid hinge]

BF4 was filled with salty tryhards

[untold cliff]

Just because you die instantly since your bad doesn't make the game bad lol

[charred heron]

"I'm a Dice dev, and i barely use planes. Nerf StuKa and listen to Jackfrags, we shouldn't nerf the cannon and bomb combi of the new Mosquito"

[untold cliff]

also rip Stuka never used it tho

[solid hinge]

Im not bad lmao

[midnight nimbus]

no BFV air is terrible

[jagged vector]

I love the Stuka

[midnight nimbus]

TTK is inconsistent af

you have combos that instagib other planes

[solid hinge]

Both stukas are fucking worthless

[midnight nimbus]

and you have loadouts that take forever to kill

[jagged vector]

Because ur bad

[midnight nimbus]

braking meta

[charred heron]

Nah, 37mm Stuka shreds

[untold cliff]

tbh I just strafe with spitfire and that one obsolete German fighter because it makes entire squads salty

[charred heron]

But, it's as maneuverable as a rock

[jagged vector]

37mm Stuka shreds, and 1000kg Stuka yeets

[charred heron]

Tho, you kill the new Mosquito with the 37mm Stuka in ~3-4 good hits

[solid hinge]

Stuka B-1 =
Have a retarded backgunner,and a shitty mg,also take this 1 ton bomb that cant one shot a heavy tank but 2x 250kg can...........

[untold cliff]

ive only used the Stuka to try and drop bombs on enemy bombers to meme

[midnight nimbus]

like you have weapons that range between 6pdr, 4x 20mm, 8x .303 instagibs and unupgraded garbage

[charred heron]

B-1 is the rarted version

[untold cliff]

I have like 40 kills with it compared to my other planes lol

B-1 is autismode

[midnight nimbus]

the worst aspect of air is really how infy has pretty much zero interaction with air

[charred heron]

Yes

[midnight nimbus]

you either get ignored or farmed with no feedback

bipod only MMGs were a mistake

[charred heron]

And most people don't even bother to use at least one damn AA tank

[midnight nimbus]

because you can't even get a good angle on planes to shoot at them

and even if you do, your dps sucks, even with upgrades

[jagged vector]

AA tanks are food to me

[untold cliff]

so many buttfucks use the AA tanks its annoying wym

picking single seaters on maps that dont use AA n shit

[solid hinge]

Stuka B-2 =
Have these AT cannons that cant kill any tanks unless they r on panzerstorm also it kills bombers.
You cant kill soldiers or defend ur ass with the worthless mg.
Enjoy having 6 kills per game cuz people keep jumping out of planes and crashing

[untold cliff]

oh lord dont even start me

[jagged vector]

I haven’t been shot down by an AA tank in months

[untold cliff]

Neither have I, its a pest at most

just a constant one

[jagged vector]

When I find them, I destroy them

[untold cliff]

I just yeet a bomb or 2 and finish it as quickly as possible

[stoic breach]

The fucking animations in this game go for so fucking long

[solid hinge]

AA TANKS =
hello,we r made to poke the planes and we cant do shit,uhh just let a mosquito drop a 1000M ton bomb on me before i can do 4 dmg to it.

[untold cliff]

exactly

idky people use such obsolete tanks when there is superior stationary weapons

and m1917

[charred heron]

20mm Flakpanzer against the new Mosquito is pointless

It tanks too much and can instagib you

10/10 balance

[jagged vector]

They need to make the stationary 88mm cannons useable

[charred heron]

It can't even be set on fire by Flaming Onion rounds

[jagged vector]

Against planes

[charred heron]

"GB has too many shit planes, let's put in another OP one into the mix. I'm a smart Dice dev, hurr"

[solid hinge]

Tanks =
Have a shitty MG that cant kill anything,has small dmg,accuracy and velocity...
Have this gun that works 50% of the time.
Get hit 1 time by an at pistol and your turret and tracks die...
Supports come close to it,drop 2 at mines like 1m next to you,shoot them with the MG42 and ur dead...
Just let a mosquito drop a 1000M ton bomb on me.

[stoic breach]

This is actually the third time I've been killed by the "short" climbing animation

[charred heron]

The game is overly animated

[midnight nimbus]

^

animationfield

[jagged vector]

If you’re getting attacked by infantry in a tank: you have overextended yourself

[solid hinge]

Im being salty and toxic but its all true

[midnight nimbus]

like the health pack animation is so intrusive

[solid hinge]

W8

[midnight nimbus]

nothing was wrong with how BF1 handled pouches

[charred heron]

Only thing that's missing is that your tanker reads the Combat Plan before even operating the tank

[solid hinge]

Tanks arent ment to support infantry?

[jagged vector]

And if you’re getting bombed directly, you’re either spotted or out in the open

[solid hinge]

I guess im stupid

My point is

[midnight nimbus]

no they're clearly made for camping in this game

[jagged vector]

Tanks don’t need to be kissing infantry to support them

[midnight nimbus]

assault launchers can't touch you at range

your movement is slow as shit

turret can't move fast enough to engage in CQB

[jagged vector]

You do not need to be on the point to support a capture

[solid hinge]

TANKS SHOULD BE FEARED
AAs SHOULD BE FEARED
BACK GUNNERS SHOULD BE FEARED
FIGHTERS SHOULD BE FEARED

[midnight nimbus]

so yes, sit outside the point and shoot at things while your blueberries cap

[jagged vector]

I mean if you want to stay alive that’s the only way to achieve that

[midnight nimbus]

BFV: vehicles aren't feared, counters aren't feared

[jagged vector]

Tanks shouldn’t be played as if they’re disposable

[midnight nimbus]

gr8 10/10

strong vehicles and strong counters again pls

[stoic breach]

The map design doesnt even really support tanks as armour placement and suppression

[jagged vector]

I’d be okay if both vehicles and counters were strong

[midnight nimbus]

remember when SOFLAM + Javelin was scary if you just camp?

[solid hinge]

When you see a tiger,you shouldnt say oh look lemme piat it 4 times and yeet.
You should say:

OH FUCK RUN

When you see any tank

[midnight nimbus]

but at the same time, you should be able to fuck up a Tiger with your PIAT if the driver is stupid

[jagged vector]

Your mistake is being within the range of a PIAT

[opaque quail]

cant choose my role?

Nvm

[jagged vector]

“I put myself in position to get wrecked by infantry, tanks r bad”

[stoic breach]

Its the turret rotation thing that's really gimped tanks

[solid hinge]

So what ur saying is

[stoic breach]

And tank balance is based on all the other games, except the other games didnt have set rotation speed

[solid hinge]

Im an retard cuz i cap objectives in a tank?

[jagged vector]

If you’re blaming turret rotation for your death, you were too close

[stoic breach]

Close is fun

[jagged vector]

Close is stupid

[stoic breach]

I fucking hate camping in a tank so I always go close

[north hazel]

Back blast of tank shot damages you

[jagged vector]

Then don’t complain about dying

[stoic breach]

What

[solid hinge]

@jagged vector tanks should work that way you know

[stoic breach]

I dont want to camp in a tank because it isnt fun

[north hazel]

Agreed

[jagged vector]

It’s not camping, it’s tanking

[north hazel]

It's also really fun to see about half of the enemy team running into a building, hahaha, fools.

[stoic breach]

You dont even get points or anything by camping

[jagged vector]

The number 1 threat to tanks is infantry

[solid hinge]

TANKS SHOULDNT FUCKING CAMP,THEY SHOULD DRINK ALL THE BULLETS AND HELP YOUR INFANTRY CHARGE AND CAP THE OBJ

[stoic breach]

Yeah, camping is anti-PTFO

[jagged vector]

Newsflash: tanks are bulletproof

[solid hinge]

When i said that

I meant that tanks r good cover

[stoic breach]

Like, take the first sector of Battle of Hannut

It's designed to be an easy cap for rushing tanks

[jagged vector]

I see none of you understand how tanks are meant to be used

[stoic breach]

Tanks dont rush because they're scared of infantry

[solid hinge]

Camp on a hill and ummm what then? @jagged vector

[stoic breach]

Tanks cant respond fast enough with a fixed rotation speed

[hybrid dragon]

lvl 30 @amber notch

[jagged vector]

They’re not supposed to respond fast

[stoic breach]

They arent supposed to camp either

[jagged vector]

They’re meant to provide support to advancing infantry and engage enemy armor

Not being in the cap point /= camping

[north hazel]

What about using the radio command tanks, I mean... The German one where the cannon can't move all that much is satisfingly powerful

[solid hinge]

the English one sucks

[north hazel]

BuT iF tAnK iS sHoOtInG eNeMy TaNk it no do good against Infoontry

[stoic breach]

Some tanks are balanced for long range

[north hazel]

You mean the crocodile tank? Eh it's ok

[stoic breach]

But tanks like the Tiger arent supposed to be camping

[jagged vector]

No

[north hazel]

I stole a slightly damaged Archer tank once

[jagged vector]

The tiger has some of the longest range ability among the tanks

[north hazel]

That was a fun match.

[jagged vector]

It has no place being in the fray

[north hazel]

And the most kills I'll ever get without getting shot as a Pathfinder

[stoic breach]

Alright fine

But if you look at the Valentine MK VIII

[solid hinge]

crocodile is only slightly better than the tiger

[stoic breach]

Upgrades like track skirts and case rounds are clearly designed for closer engagement

[north hazel]

Croc is... Ok

[solid hinge]

it has slightly less splash and damage for a 25% better fire rate

[jagged vector]

I’m only trying to tell you how tanks were intended to be used. And if used outside that intent, it’s dangerous for the tanker

[solid hinge]

meanwhile the sturmtiger is a fuckin bruiser

[north hazel]

Yes

Sturm is fucking amazingly appealing

[solid hinge]

Sturm even gets a better gimmick gunner seat

[jagged vector]

And doing so does not make tanks bad, if you choose to enter infantry engagement range and get shit on it’s your fault, not the tank.

[north hazel]

That's why you smoke

[stoic breach]

You might be missing the point of BFV being a game, not a milsim

If it isnt fun it shouldn't be in the game

[north hazel]

We need medics

[solid hinge]

tanks can be worked around with infantry but there's nothing you can do vs planes currently

I hope they change that

[stoic breach]

I don't expect to push people with a tank specced for anti-tank

[jagged vector]

Okay. Drive your tanks into cap points. Just don’t complain about the consequences

[north hazel]

Planes are pretty painful to deal with

[stoic breach]

But I do expect to push people with a tank specced for anti-infantry

[north hazel]

^

[stoic breach]

How is a tanker supposed to PTFO if they cant drive into a point to cap

[north hazel]

I generally do it so I "motivate" my team to move forward

[swift burrow]

Hello can someone who owns the medic helmet please send me a screenshot of it equiped on your soldier

[north hazel]

What in the fuck does ptfo stand for

[stoic breach]

Play The Fucking Objective

[north hazel]

AH

Yes

[jagged vector]

A tank cannot solo cap

[north hazel]

Not ttue

True*

[solid hinge]

tanks in this are designed more for ranged explosive support than bf1

[amber notch]

But a tank can tank

[solid hinge]

I wanna die

After hearing this stuff

[jagged vector]

You’re supposed to eliminate the enemy presence while your infantry advances. And you advance behind them.

[tough stream]

tank can put pressure on the point allowing for flankers to clean up point

[solid hinge]

Thats a support tank

[tough stream]

its a team game

[solid hinge]

TANKS HAVE TO TANK

[jagged vector]

If you just drift into a cap point and get swarmed by assaults and supports, it’s on you.

[sonic rampart]

Tanks should stand like a bit in front of the objective

While infantry caps the point

[tough stream]

the important thing is timing so tanks and infantry attack at once

[sonic rampart]

But not at their spawns

[stoic breach]

You can get swarmed by one or two assaults because of turret rotation speed

[jagged vector]

I appreciate you guys showing up

[sharp falcon]

Asian servers for bf4 are dead. Not a single player on server.

[tough stream]

you can block certain sightlines with tanks but depends on the map

thats cause its the AM in asia

[sonic rampart]

And Thats why some support players should defend the tank/repair it

[solid hinge]

if you're too slow to drive away from assaults then you gotta watch your positioning double-so

[north hazel]

The effectiveness of tank use to me is leading a charge while annihilating enemy cover to ease the pain of advancing as infantry

[solid hinge]

BFV NEEDS THE BF4 UPGRADE SYSTEM

[tough stream]

lol

[solid hinge]

FOR TANKS N PLANES

[jagged vector]

stop shouting

[stoic breach]

Assaults can just strafe away from a turret

[sonic rampart]

Why

[solid hinge]

tank leading a charge in this will get you blown up

[tough stream]

its not gonna happen in bfv they went with the level system

[solid hinge]

Caps dont mean shouting

Wtf

BOY

[ruby tangle]

someone saw the conquest idea for the new map. if they add this I will play this game 24/7

[tough stream]

oh boy

[solid hinge]

soften the target from a distance, then move in to mop up if you're confident you can make it work

[tough stream]

running 1km to every objective is run

[north hazel]

Ya, but it's harder to get blown up when after annihilating enemy cover the infantry charge knocks units out

[tough stream]

fun

[solid hinge]

YEAAA IDK UHHHHHH IL HAVE UJHHHHHHHH AAAAA BOOOORGERRR

[jagged vector]

I’ve been trying to explain this for like half an hour

[sonic rampart]

Bc that

[tough stream]

its a team game at the end of the day

[sonic rampart]

👀

[jagged vector]

Some of these guys brains are too soft

[solid hinge]

Okay guys lets get this clear

The advantage of tanks is the long range explosives

[tough stream]

the advantage is using the side guns on the tank as well

[solid hinge]

The piat only has 100m or so and it's fiddly to aim

A huge metal beast can get killed by a single soldier rushing to it.

The faust has 0 explosive potential

[tough stream]

you can mow people down with the machine gun

[solid hinge]

Only in bf

You cant @tough stream

You could in the alpha

[jagged vector]

Yes you can

[solid hinge]

not anymore

moving in reduces the capability of the gunner position in the tank

[tough stream]

bruh aim

[solid hinge]

Not strong enough

less visibility

[jagged vector]

The coax gun has a seriously fast ttk

[solid hinge]

Not
Strong
Enough

it has a high drop off too

[stoic breach]

Except the rotation speed is crap

[tough stream]

who cares about how fast it ttks when you're literally safe from enemy fire4

[stoic breach]

And the top gunner for a tank is always exposed

[solid hinge]

tfw a headshot is 18 damage

[tough stream]

the front gun is op cause you can shoot always

[solid hinge]

[tough stream]

ew not talking about top gunner

front gunner op

[jagged vector]

Top gunner is a bad place to be

[stoic breach]

Front gunner isnt OP if players can strafe away

[solid hinge]

4 headshots and a body shot won't kill at even medium-long range

[stoic breach]

Which they do

[tough stream]

imma let you guys on an op tip to win games

[solid hinge]

top gunner works if your tank drives through a house

The element of surprise

[tough stream]

use the treadmiller with a front gunner and go on vehicle flanks with infantry to win games

[solid hinge]

Top gunner needs a shield. And better accuracy,MAYBE GIVE IT THE AA SIGHT YEEEES??

The heck is a treadmiller

[tough stream]

ii would say a better shield

that has hp

[north hazel]

Top Gunner is a great place to be... If you don't care too much about your k/d, it had a lot of power (along with spotting suppressed enemies)

[solid hinge]

no hp

Also

[stoic breach]

Top gunner is clearly designed to be close range support when the tank itself cant react

Except its exposed so nobody wants to use it

[dense bone]

top gunner is super good, IF YOUR DRIVER DOESNT STOP

[jagged vector]

If tanks were as strong as you’d make them. You would then complain about tanks being too strong

[solid hinge]

top gunner is for pushing

[tough stream]

its cause theres lag when you get into the seat where you can be killed

[solid hinge]

Top gunner should have super fast health regen,and you should be able to hide FAST

[north hazel]

Ya if your driver stops in the middle of a point, ya fucked

[solid hinge]

front gunner is for barrage

[tough stream]

like i dont know why it cant have a gun shield like the otther stationary mg's on the map

[stoic breach]

If tanks were strong they would actually be threatening

[dense bone]

ive done absolute work as top gunner when my driver kept going

[solid hinge]

@stoic breach facts

I dont fear tanks in this game

i feel like top gunner could use a little explosive damage reduction

Not at all

[tough stream]

you can do well with anything if you're facing bad players

[north hazel]

Front Gunner? I know it exists but... Man.. I think I may have only gotten a few kills from that position

[tough stream]

what front gunner is op for fire support

[stoic breach]

I have only gotten kills with tanks using long distance, which may be the point, but it is not fun to play like that

[tough stream]

you cant get killed and have infinite ammo

[stoic breach]

And when I try to be aggressive instead of people running away they run towards me

[solid hinge]

you can spec tanks for more close range

Depends on the tank you're using

Howitzer Churchill with snake launchers is a beast close up

[jagged vector]

I like the snake howitzer

[tough stream]

one of the tanks they added in TOW has a remote MG with a scope that thing is op

[solid hinge]

you're still boned but at least it's explosive

[jagged vector]

It’s goofy but it b o o m s

[solid hinge]

Exactly!

[jagged vector]

That’s the “up close” tank

[solid hinge]

Stubby panzer 4 with case rounds is brutal vs infantry

i wanna die

Can we get

Very high splash damage on the default shots

Strong tanks

[north hazel]

It's like using dynamite, it's a bad idea but hey, you should see what's left of the 5 guys in that building

[sonic rampart]

🔥🔥🚜🔥🔥

[north hazel]

Yee haw

[sonic rampart]

Firestorm Soon

roadkills player with a tractor

[dense bone]

people complain about tanks being weak, but ive seen a lot of people with way higher kdr in tanks vs their infantry

[sonic rampart]

true

They are not weak

[primal sage]

Dude, I can actually go whole rounds without dying in a tank.

[stoic breach]

Depends how they play

[solid hinge]

I miss bf1

I wanna die

[sonic rampart]

If you use them right

[stoic breach]

I just cant be aggressive in a tank

[solid hinge]

Planes were super good

[dense bone]

i just feel a lot of people want unstoppable tanks that they feel like a god in

just because they got in one...

[solid hinge]

AAs were good

[primal sage]

You play too aggressive and you're gonna die.

[solid hinge]

it's a team thing now

Tanks were somewhat okay

[stoic breach]

Like, I expect to be killed by multiple people, but getting killed by one person just sucks the fun out of it

[solid hinge]

3 dudes and a tank should beat 5 or 6 dudes

or the tank could stay on a hill and shoot the 6 by itself

[sonic rampart]

In bf1 you felt powerfull in a tank

[primal sage]

The Staghound and the Panzer 38t are the ones that should be aggressive only due to their speeds.

Well duh, it was WWI.

[dense bone]

bf1 had stupid vehicle balance imo

[primal sage]

Tanks were OP.

[dense bone]

and horse balance

it was a stupid game

[primal sage]

No u.

[solid hinge]

tanks were stronger and the anti tank weapons were very slow

[stoic breach]

In BF1 you could beat a tank with multiple people

[solid hinge]

Horses were stupid il give you that

[dense bone]

sure, but you dont have to pay to play me

[sonic rampart]

Artillery tank was OP

[solid hinge]

Anything else

Die

[stoic breach]

BFV it only takes one person strafing

[primal sage]

Artillery Tank?

What?

Which one?

[stoic breach]

Artillery truck

[solid hinge]

take s-mines then

[primal sage]

Oh.