battlefield-legacy-titles

[proper tapir]

when is the roadmap update coming out?

[pale rain]

EMP is nice

[proper tapir]

end of this month?

[main grove]

25th?

When this TOW ends

And trial by fire begins

[proper tapir]

yeah i would assume so

hopefully we get to see next 2 chapters at least

not just chapter 4

[main grove]

What other fast as fuck SMGs could they add?
Beretta automatico 38, PPSH-41, Nambu type 100

[proper tapir]

grease gun

[main grove]

Those are all associated with those factions though

[icy sluice]

How fast did the Grease Gun fire?

[main grove]

450rpm

[proper tapir]

yeah pretty slow and steady i guess

[main grove]

The slowest and the steadiest

[proper tapir]

still i want one

[main grove]

Yeah it’d be nice

[icy sluice]

Yeah, kinda opposite as fast as fuck

I do like the Grease Gun tho

[main grove]

PPSH-41 will be tricky to balance because they held off giving the drum to the Suomi

They can’t leave out the drum mag on that thing as well

[nocturne swallow]

Also it's so similar. It was based loosely on the Suomi

[proper tapir]

yeah the drum on the ppsh-41 is iconic though

[main grove]

It’ll probably be similar in fire rate if not a bit faster but harder to control and maybe slightly lower damage

[nocturne swallow]

Yeah. It fired a tiny round

[main grove]

What bullet did the Suomi use?

Was it a 9mm copy?

[nocturne swallow]

7. Something tokarev?

[icy sluice]

9x19mm Parabellum

[nocturne swallow]

Oh it was 9mm

[main grove]

yeah the PPSH had a smaller bullet than the Suomi

[nocturne swallow]

7.62 tokarev

[main grove]

Still tore the fuck out whatever was in the way though

[icy sluice]

I wonder why

[main grove]

PRBBRRBRBRBBB

The most impressive thing about the PPSH was the cost though

[proper tapir]

and it was reliable

not a factor in BF lol

[nocturne swallow]

I mean getting shot by any caliber bullet will be bad

[proper tapir]

germans preferred it over MP40

[main grove]

Suomi was a highly engineered meticulously crafted gun

The Russian did make an almost direct copy with the PPD

But it shared the cost issues

[icy sluice]

I still want an inspect weapon feature

[proper tapir]

i still want a random weapon jam feature 😉

[tulip shoal]

counter field 5

[icy sluice]

lol

[nocturne swallow]

I want maps

[tulip shoal]

I want capture the flag

[icy sluice]

It should be easy to make an animation of someone just turning the gun

[tulip shoal]

to look more like cod

[proper tapir]

what about an animation of someone slapping the magazine, fighting the bolt?

cursing

throwing the jammed weapon at an enemy

[main grove]

Petition to be able to have one tally on a gun for every 100 kills

[nocturne swallow]

I want an animation of the G43 safety lever snapping off

[proper tapir]

haha

[nocturne swallow]

Cause I heard it was a thing lol

[main grove]

I want to spawn in a tiger and immediately have my transmission break

[nocturne swallow]

It is really spindly

[proper tapir]

yeah, have to remove 5 road wheels to replace 1

these are great ideas

[nocturne swallow]

When we get the M1 I want my character to get his thumb slammed in the action

[main grove]

We already can have that with the AGM42

But far worse

[nocturne swallow]

They did it too?

[main grove]

There’s a reason why your guy flips the safety before reloading

[nocturne swallow]

Haha. I didn't know anything about that rifle

[main grove]

I wish I could fire the panzerfaust then beat someone with the now empty tube

[nocturne swallow]

Same

Be a good melee weapon

Stahl helm, thrown weapon

[main grove]

Like actually add a used panzerfaust
They had dumb melee weapons in BF1 like a dud club and a broken bottle

[nocturne swallow]

Yeah

They ever gonna add the panzershrek?

[pearl siren]

wait ppl really complaining that this game has bad visibility lmao

[scenic beacon]

Stop...

[pearl siren]

what the fuck have you done

[scenic beacon]

prepare thine anus

[lunar lion]

yikes

[scenic beacon]

well that just happened...

[icy sluice]

@nocturne swallow There has been some concept art and stuff featuring the Panzerschreck

[pale rain]

What just happened

[wary mason]

Imagine thinking pings annoy us

or me at least dunno about the others

[icy sluice]

@wary mason Says the man in Do Not Disturb

[wary mason]

DND is the best mode

never taking it off

[icy sluice]

Could be why pings are not annoying for you

[wary mason]

perhaps

[solid hinge]

Why in the fuck aren't there any Team Deathmatch servers other than in Europe?

[idle breach]

jesus

ju88c bugged

wtf dice

[solid hinge]

razer deathadder essential

[jagged vector]

Yeah don’t buy the spot scope til it’s level 4

[icy sluice]

Buying the spot scope?

That's the default ain't it?

Oh you're talking about planes

[idle breach]

3lvl spec spotting camera is bugged

[icy sluice]

nevermind

[idle breach]

yep

[high dune]

Some player from PS4?

[worthy blaze]

does anyone have a nvidia card and play bf5?

[pale rain]

Try #lfg-playstation @high dune

[high dune]

Thanks man

[pale rain]

No problem!

[solid hinge]

This pisses me off

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/b1rh4n/battlefield_v_history_all_10_archetypes_sub/

the entire archetype thing - it was scapped because of the silent minority

[shrewd grove]

Trust me I loved the idea to death too

But people kept being whiney babies about it

[solid hinge]

Yeah

If this system were in place then the entire meta of assaults being powerful would have been solved

And this problem of Battlefield having whiny players is a problem with only the Battlefield series

[shrewd grove]

I like the idea of all the classes having proper defined roles too

[idle breach]

like

assaults doing all the thing, medic supports them

and supports and recons lying around the map

to make the surfaces warm

[narrow moss]

why does the v1 have more of a blast than the 4000kg bomb?

[idle breach]

because balance

and v1 makes a buzzing bzzzz sound

[narrow moss]

its literally a 850kg warhead when the bomb its 4000kg

[idle breach]

and it's actually 4000lb bomb

[pale rain]

^

I know

[narrow moss]

4000lb whatever

still

[idle breach]

it's like 1000kg bomb

[solid hinge]

I mean if you were to use a 4000kg bomb on hamada then half the map would be nuked

[shrewd grove]

I like that the anti tank had carbines and machine pistols because they wouldn't be able to have the shitty g43 and whatnot alongside it

[idle breach]

v1 comes with buzzing sound, which makes blast more stronger

[solid hinge]

Yeah holy shit

[narrow moss]

yee but idfk they should have made it like 250lb and called it a day

[idle breach]

but 1000kg bomb just dropped by a plane like

[solid hinge]

And they could have had weapon customization

[idle breach]

pewww sound so it's weaker

more sound = more damage

[solid hinge]

people would have still be able to select different weapons

[narrow moss]

🤔

[idle breach]

it's physics

[solid hinge]

Why are people so triggered over this

[pale rain]

Definitely physics

[idle breach]

yep

[shrewd grove]

I think this is the main reason theres a balance problem between classes because they planned on archetypes being a thing where they'd balance out the roles and now it's just scrapped

[pale rain]

Very true

[solid hinge]

They need to re-add the archtype system then

[idle breach]

if you make bomb make sound the wave of soundwave is not only spreaded through air but the energy is stored in the bomb?

so when the bomb detonates the energy from sound also detonates

makes V1 a deadly weapon

[shrewd grove]

I've always really liked the idea of archetypes

[idle breach]

and that's the reason why stuka had sirens

the stuka siren makes noise to make the bomb stronger

it's just common physics, like when you punch somebody if you shout while punching your punch will be stronger that's why bruce lee shouting everytime he lands kick or punch

[solid hinge]

[shrewd grove]

Imagine if the 4000kg bomb actually was more powerful than the V1

That'd be incredibly unbalanced

[narrow moss]

0\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\?

"

"

oof sry cleaning my keyboard

[lunar lion]

[idle breach]

real gamer clean keyboard

[rose pilot]

Cleaning keyboards

Yikes

Mines... In mint condition

[pearl siren]

i got my first tank kill with the tiger last night

i loled when i took 4 shots to kill a churchill from the side

like xd

wait theres a plane in bf5 with a 4000 kg bomb?

[shrewd grove]

Yeah

It's the plane from last week

[narrow moss]

The new mosuito thingy

[idle breach]

no

it's lb

not kg

its british and american system

1 lb is like 30 centimeters long

[proper tapir]

i'm coming around to grand ops

[narrow moss]

conquest is best prove me wrong

[proper tapir]

no you are probably right - haven't been a fan of it in past but i like it in BF5

i think it's mostly about player numbers - 64 is great for large, full map

not a huge fan of 64 players in single sector

conquest is kind of a "choose your own adventure" for your squad

can be slow or intense

full contingent of weapons

it's fun

but speaking of grand ops - i am starting to appreciate the variety pack

though they could probably tweak it a little to have some different outcomes for each op

different maps/modes based on each day's results

would keep it fresh

instead of knowing exactly what you are going to play next

[dusk field]

is the SCAR-H any good?

[proper tapir]

lol

[narrow moss]

i like the awp a lot

tbh

i feel like bf1 is much more emotional than bfv

[proper tapir]

well the operations had more context, better cut scenes

that's what BFV ops are missing

context

[narrow moss]

i havent finished the campaign in bfv yet bc i just got bored

[grand zinc]

The Last Tiger is very emotional

[proper tapir]

i wish the grand ops had utilized a bit more overview maps, maybe some old footage 😉

[narrow moss]

tbh

i wish there was a trainer for single player which allowed me to complete the challenges

without dying bc i hecked up

^ trainer as in a cheat

[shrewd grove]

The challenges aren't that hard, you can do all the challenges on easy

[proper tapir]

that defeats the purpose, no?

[narrow moss]

facts tho

[shrewd grove]

The only hard challenge is the last sneaking one in Tirailleur iirc

[fluid swan]

So I was a huge fan of bf. Started from BC2 up until BF4. Wasn't interested in then anymore up until now that BFV is on sale. I preordered BF4 and I remember the crap it was at launch. I want to know if BFV faces the same sort of problems, because I don't want to go through this experience again

[idle breach]

missed BF4, but I can say BFV launch was goddamn crappy

but now it's clearly better

[shrewd grove]

It's nowhere near as bad as BF4s launch lol

[pale rain]

^^^^

[shrewd grove]

BF4 was plagued with constant crashing and tons of bugs that still persist today

[pale rain]

Bf4 wasn’t even playable at first for some

[shrewd grove]

^

[solid hinge]

bf4 single player doesnt work btw

it would either reset all your settings

[pale rain]

Bfv had a pretty decent launch IMO

[solid hinge]

or not let you progress past a point

[fluid swan]

At launch, I was playing bf4 at 20fps. it was hell

"playing"

[shrewd grove]

BFV is a lot better in that regard

[fluid swan]

So it's good to know BFV is not facing this problem at least

[shrewd grove]

But obviously there's a little lack of content at the moment, but I'm excited for the stuff that's about to drop with the next ToW on the 21st

[fluid swan]

(never preordered games anymore since bf4)

[pale rain]

I would recommend bfv

[pearl siren]

omfg minengeschoss is so good

[fluid swan]

So, would you say it's worth it for half the price?

[pale rain]

Gameplay is super solid

[pearl siren]

delete spitfire

[pale rain]

Content lacks a little, but firestorm will be out soon

@fluid swan yes I’d say it’s worth it

[fluid swan]

good to know. I'll give it a chance

[shrewd grove]

For half the price most definitely

There's enough there and enough coming to more than justify it

[proper tapir]

yeah i'm looking forward to firestorm because it's like having whole other game

[covert cypress]

@narrow moss BF1 definetly had way more emotion and atmosphere

[raw heron]

when firestorm coem out?

[proper tapir]

will be great to jump back and forth between firestorm and rest of game

march 25

[raw heron]

ok

but will it break apex legends

[proper tapir]

it's not f2p so probably not

[fathom pebble]

no it wont

[proper tapir]

but it definitely offers something new on BR mode

[raw heron]

i hope it has a simple push to talk

[proper tapir]

with the engine, environment, vehicles, etc

[raw heron]

does the tricopter have any weapons

[toxic obsidian]

No

[proper tapir]

didn't look like it

looks like passengers can shoot down that's it

[raw heron]

probably in specializations

[proper tapir]

possibly

[toxic obsidian]

But the two side seats can shoot

[solid hinge]

sa

[raw heron]

machine guns and bombs maybe

[toxic obsidian]

No specs for firestorm

Probably

Actually definitely

[raw heron]

well yea past experience when shooting out of helicopter is hard if your pilot is on drugs

[toxic obsidian]

Get a good pilot

[raw heron]

danger zone danger zone

[covert cypress]

Who else hates defending? Rush and Frontlines and Breakthrough / Grand Operations all have mcom modes in them and its frustrating as hell when you're stuck on the defending team and you're the only one actually doing anything
and you get over run by an entire squad and not a single team mate is even near you or the objective they are supposed to be defending.
like... every second game is like this
its extremely irritating
especially when you're on comms begging your squad to actually stick with you and work together
and they are off who knows where running around like chickens with their heads cut off like everyone else does these days. sigh.

[toxic obsidian]

Gtg finish laundry then gonna hop on bfv

[raw heron]

have no squad since

they should improve defence i aggre

[proper tapir]

i'm assuming the gyrocopter will seat 4?

[fathom pebble]

TL;DR

[proper tapir]

since squad

[fathom pebble]

[raw heron]

on narvik i baisiacly 99% lose

[toxic obsidian]

Yes it will seat four

[covert cypress]

no one defends B on the British side

on narvik

its so sad

[proper tapir]

BFV is just infinitely better if you have a solid squad and are on comms

hard to rely on much else

[toxic obsidian]

Yep

Cya

[proper tapir]

luck of the draw whether you have an aggressive team or a clueless team

[covert cypress]

which is 75% of the time

rofl

[proper tapir]

makes a world of difference with experience

yeah

[covert cypress]

(i random solo queue a lot)

[proper tapir]

i do from time to time - but seems like lower chance of success

[raw heron]

i really wonder how ammo guns storage will work on firestors

[proper tapir]

at least with a solid squad of friends you have a chance to push a team

they have backpacks

[raw heron]

customization like armour

[proper tapir]

looked like you could carry a couple of guns

[covert cypress]

i am honestly just amazed at how this game is full of people who just seriously dont ptfo or have any common sense. having shooting skills and everything fine thats one thing. but zero map awareness or desire to actually win the game is far too common

[proper tapir]

store different ammo

and i assume gadgets

yeah agreed legacy

[pale rain]

^

[proper tapir]

large portion of the player population doesn't seem to know what's going on

[raw heron]

yea boi liberator only squad

[covert cypress]

haha

[pale rain]

Hehe

[fathom pebble]

Instead ranting you can always go to the forums/reddit/AHQ and right feedback

[covert cypress]

i do

well not reddit its pointless

[proper tapir]

he's just discussing

[raw heron]

i got banned from reddit

[proper tapir]

i wouldn't call it a rant

[pale rain]

Rofl

You got banned from reddit?

[raw heron]

i uploaded the new zeland shooting video

haha

[covert cypress]

why

[proper tapir]

😬

[pale rain]

SMH

[raw heron]

idk for people to save it before they remove it

[covert cypress]

=/

are you a sadist

[proper tapir]

that's sick

[raw heron]

im a comunist

[covert cypress]

why are you bringing that info here this is a BF chat

[pale rain]

#general for this conversation lol

[raw heron]

shh

[fathom pebble]

yikes

[proper tapir]

^^^

[raw heron]

...

[proper tapir]

hey the good news is your faction is probably coming to BFV later this year

so there's always that

[idle breach]

hello fellow communist

[raw heron]

mine?

mango tango?

[idle breach]

you meant ours?

[raw heron]

you snitch

[fathom pebble]

USSR is semi known that there's a high chance to be added in the game since before the game was added

or in other words since pre order was out

for BFV

[idle breach]

ussr better comes with AT ours

[raw heron]

they must

[proper tapir]

yeah i mean - it has to be added unless the game just gets flat cancelled

[idle breach]

AP ours

[raw heron]

the will get god vodka russian bfv players

[fathom pebble]

it was never added to BFV

[raw heron]

and lots of stalin

[proper tapir]

i will be added, yes?

[idle breach]

we had red army in BF1 didnt we

[fathom pebble]

they add a Mosin m38 to BF1 on the pre order pack of BFV and a federov

[shrewd grove]

^

They'd have to honestly

[proper tapir]

never would i have guessed i would have played an FPS depicting the russian civil war

still tip of the hat to dice for that

[raw heron]

vanila dice dice baby

[fathom pebble]

mosin m38 was design'd and manufactured in 1937 fyi

or just google it wiki knows that

[proper tapir]

they added that to BF1?

seems... anachronistic...

[gray glade]

why do ppl build vehicle depot when our team cannot use vehicles

this last game i had to destroy the damn thing 4 times

[raw heron]

i hope next battlefield will be moderen and not vietnam or cold era

[wind pendant]

@gray glade A man can dream

for the day he steals enemy tank

[idle breach]

hot era?

[proper tapir]

why do you destroy the vehicle depot khorney?

[gray glade]

because we didnt have any tanks

and couldnt get any

but the enemy did

[proper tapir]

oh

makes sense

[wind pendant]

but the 900iq move is to c4/mine vehicle depot

and wait

[proper tapir]

i can't get people to ever repair when we have tanks so surprised people are doing it just for fun

regarding next BF - i'm hoping it IS the cold war period and has a few maps from korea, vietnam, maybe afghanistan, 1980's red dawn 😉

full gambit

lots of content there

soviet vs US could make a cool BF

hasn't been done

all the modern toys

[idle breach]

is battlefield realistic

can I repair tank by just touching it with blowtorch

[proper tapir]

???

[shrewd grove]

1918A2 was also part of the thing for getting BFV

[pale rain]

Yes

[wind pendant]

dice doesnt want to waste time animating paratroopers plane

[proper tapir]

haha

[wind pendant]

you think they will make a game from 50's to 80s?

with all different models

[proper tapir]

they were rushed - the ju-52 is in firestorm!

ok i'd settle for 1980's soviet/US hot war

fulda gap

[gray glade]

realistic repairs for a tank would suck in a game 😄

[proper tapir]

ha no kidding

[shrewd grove]

Make sure not to get your hopes up too much

[proper tapir]

for what?

[gray glade]

imagine spending an entire game just towing that tank back to repair place

[proper tapir]

the next BF?

yeah they should add a wrecker vehicle

LOL

[shrewd grove]

Well for both, who knows what they could do

[gray glade]

i'd love to see a cold war gone hot game

[pale rain]

I’m hoping for a modern battlefield next

[proper tapir]

well a cold war era (not black ops) would be cool

[gray glade]

korea feels to early, korea had so much ww2 stuff

[proper tapir]

cold war could be semi-modern

[shrewd grove]

I'd hope since they did world war 1 then world war 2 they'd do something cold war or Vietnam after

[proper tapir]

especially 1970s-1980s

i'd love to see F-14s, T-72s and stuff

last generation equipment

but still fairly modern

[idle breach]

how about

british-korean war?

[proper tapir]

well he's probably right korean war is a little too WW2-ish

though it would have jets

and helicopters

[idle breach]

british-korean war in 90's

[proper tapir]

???

LOL

[idle breach]

british - (south) korean war in 1992 to 1995 I meant

It would have enough modern things I guess

[proper tapir]

i'm thinking more along the lines of red dawn

straight up 1980's nostalgia war

almost feels like GI Joe

[idle breach]

80's would be great

must include synthpop soundtrack

[proper tapir]

you'd still have M1 abrams and apaches

but old school stuff too

and the soviet union just makes a better opponent

[idle breach]

the patton tank and the patton tank and the patton tank?

[proper tapir]

yep!

[idle breach]

still don't get it

did americans ran out of name

[proper tapir]

for what, tanks?

[idle breach]

pretty sure there were lots of unused general names

for tanks

yeah

[proper tapir]

haven't been as many tanks

different types

[idle breach]

yeah but

but

[proper tapir]

but they used most of the names

[idle breach]

three patton is too many

[gray glade]

what does the T stand for in soviet tank names?

surely not "tank"

[idle breach]

tank. of course

[gray glade]

that simple huh?

[idle breach]

yeah

[proper tapir]

i believe so

[gray glade]

then its kind of boring

😄

[proper tapir]

would be cool to see old Migs

[idle breach]

ussr had 'proper' naming culture

[proper tapir]

old soviet tanks

[dusk field]

i hope they don’t make the same mistake with firestorm as they did with blackout at first

[proper tapir]

that's why 1980s BF would be great

lots of content

[idle breach]

you know what BT tank means

the light tanks used in ussr

'FAST TANK' so it's BT.

[proper tapir]

Bistro Tankevy?

😉

[idle breach]

yep

[gray glade]

at least the germans had nicknames for their boring names

[idle breach]

bistro khodny tank

[proper tapir]

the US gave cool nicknames to russian aircraft

[idle breach]

like fagot?

[proper tapir]

and fulcrum

yes

and foxbat

[idle breach]

it's like they just ran out of names

[proper tapir]

naming things is hard

they must have a committee

and vote on it

😉

[idle breach]

seems like brit doing it easy

[grand zinc]

oh @proper tapir +

[idle breach]

they even name american tanks

[gray glade]

its kind of funny to say as well

conqueror, comet, challenger

[grand zinc]

Nice Picture

[proper tapir]

yeah they always had to rename US vehicles...

[gray glade]

churchill

[idle breach]

matilda

[proper tapir]

haha you like @grand zinc ?

it's you!

[solid hinge]

so ironic how theres 20 squad vc for bf5 but only 2 for bf1 and 2 for bf4

[gray glade]

but lets not forget the greatest british tank of them all... the TOG

[grand zinc]

Of course

[idle breach]

you mean TOOOOOOOOOOOG

[grand zinc]

TOG II

[gray glade]

amazing

[idle breach]

TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG II

[grand zinc]

what about+

Panzerkampfwagen V aka Panther

[idle breach]

that's bad naming order

[proper tapir]

we better get the panther in BFV

[idle breach]

if they went like that they'll run out of 'cool animal name' pretty soon

[proper tapir]

maybe save that for the soviet front 😉

[idle breach]

if they somehow managed to developed some Panzer 20

the name would be something like

[grand zinc]

@proper tapir

[idle breach]

Panzer XX. scottish fold

[proper tapir]

yes?

[grand zinc]

3 MG 42 on same Tank u serious?????????????

[idle breach]

anyway

I think chinese submarine naming system is kinda

[proper tapir]

panther is a beast

[idle breach]

bad??

[proper tapir]

LOL

[grand zinc]

And can drive to 50km/h

[idle breach]

they name their submarine from names from former chinese dynasties?

[grand zinc]

i think more like

[idle breach]

and I genuinely curious what would they do when they run out of names

as I know there are only two names left

two new submarines and they should think something new

[grand zinc]

Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger II 'B' aka Koenigstiger

[proper tapir]

maybe they will just start putting roman numerals by them

like the Han II

King Tiger better be a squad unlock later in the game

[idle breach]

that would be ridiculous

[grand zinc]

haha

[idle breach]

like

later-Han?

like come on it's just like

[proper tapir]

no just Han II

Han IV

[idle breach]

naming british ship like

'King george V but in his old years'

[proper tapir]

i actually wish they didn't have the sturmtiger in the game

and picked one of the more reasonable beasts

the sturmtiger wasn't really a thing

[idle breach]

yeah... I think just that

what... s that name

[proper tapir]

but the jagdpanther/jadgtiger were

[idle breach]

little brother of sturmtiger

panzer IV with big fuckoff gun?

[grand zinc]

oh the boi knows what hes talking about

[proper tapir]

haha, King George V but a bit older

[idle breach]

brummbarrr?

[proper tapir]

brummbar would be cool

at least it was a thing

[idle breach]

yeah

[proper tapir]

sturmtiger was found in a barn somewhere

wasn't a thing

[idle breach]

matching sturmtiger with churchill is kinda

oh come on....

[proper tapir]

crocodile was a thing

[idle breach]

churchill doesn't even look like menacing enough

well yeah but

look at that thing

it looks like some LEGO tank

[grand zinc]

what about P1000 Ratte?

[icy sluice]

German Tank there ain't it?

[proper tapir]

if they want to have a secret weapons expansion like 1942 i'm all for it

but make it clearly that

on the moon

[grand zinc]

Well actually Sturmtiger did exist but it was like 100 and it was a Assault arty Tank no Tank

[proper tapir]

did they actually ever use it in battle?

[grand zinc]

yes

[proper tapir]

i thought it was still a prototype or something

[idle breach]

sturmtiger?

yeah as far as I know they were used

[grand zinc]

in netherlands

[idle breach]

not like the germans had some spare tanks

[grand zinc]

In operation Market Garden

[idle breach]

they even used that idiot tiger

[wide schooner]

ay

[proper tapir]

well i stand corrected

[shrewd grove]

I remember seeing a picture of a destroyed one at a battlefield

[idle breach]

IDIOT TIGER

[wide schooner]

sipping that juice

[proper tapir]

i guess it does deserve to be in the game...

[unborn blaze]

I read Market Garden?

[proper tapir]

it's still a silly vehicle

[idle breach]

I want some

more planes

[unborn blaze]

And Sturmtiger?

[idle breach]

not some boring american ones

[grand zinc]

Prototypes german never use : Panther II , V3 , Ho 229 , Ratte , Pzkmpf.VIII Maus

[jagged vector]

There’s a video of the sturmtiger firing it’s rocket shell at buildings

[proper tapir]

the american ones are the most exciting

[idle breach]

meh

[proper tapir]

p-47 is all you need

kill everything

[unborn blaze]

The Sturmtiger was used, and there's unconfirmed reports of one destroying 3 M4s with a single shot

[proper tapir]

well there you go

[unborn blaze]

So it very much deserves to be in the game

[idle breach]

only american plane that's exciting was airacobra

[grand zinc]

Man get a room

[proper tapir]

haha the airacobra

[unborn blaze]

The only American plane that's exciting is... none of them.

[idle breach]

I mena american planes are good but

kinda boringly good

[unborn blaze]

They're all boring

[idle breach]

nothing is kinda stupid good like mosquito in irl

[grand zinc]

UK and USA , just keep using M4 Sherman and Modifying it

[proper tapir]

yeah just too overly reliable and dominant, good looking, good

[idle breach]

too plain good.

[unborn blaze]

American planes don't look good

[proper tapir]

they all look good

[idle breach]

flying keg

[proper tapir]

except the airacobra

[unborn blaze]

They look like someone got drunk

[grand zinc]

u ever saw a P51 Mustang

[unborn blaze]

Yes

[pale rain]

Hellcat air plane!!

[unborn blaze]

It's really stupid

[proper tapir]

a mustang looks stupid???

LOL

[idle breach]

american planes are good, but boring

[unborn blaze]

The Spitfire is far superior

[pale rain]

Like someone got drunk??

[grand zinc]

P47 Thunderbolt?

[proper tapir]

which spitfire?

which mustang?

[idle breach]

obviously, 'better' spitfire

[unborn blaze]

Spitfire MK 24

[proper tapir]

early p-51s are meh

[idle breach]

like 'better T-34' against 'worse Sherman'

[proper tapir]

haha

[idle breach]

it's common sence in military arguement in internet

[gray glade]

the p47 looks real ugly lol

[unborn blaze]

A beautiful machine

[proper tapir]

older King George V

[gray glade]

p51 looks nice tho

[proper tapir]

P-47s are gorgeous

[grand zinc]

ok ok

[proper tapir]

big radial engine

the JUG

[unborn blaze]

Yeah, but the Spitfire is just better in every way

[grand zinc]

what about B17 Flying Fortess

[proper tapir]

okay the spitfire is a legendary plane

[idle breach]

at least can't we just all agree

[unborn blaze]

Lancaster > B-17

[proper tapir]

you are a brit clearly?

[idle breach]

spitfire pilot helmet was best looking helmet.

[unborn blaze]

Nah

Canadian

[grand zinc]

lets finish this

Ar234 Blitz

[proper tapir]

hahaha

winner

[idle breach]

spitfire looks like some italian sports car,

mustang looks like just corvette

[unborn blaze]

And the Seafire is great too

[grand zinc]

http://deacademic.com/dic.nsf/dewiki/93525

[idle breach]

Shermans were great tank but

[proper tapir]

i don't know, late war mustang is pretty iconic

[grand zinc]

a Jet Bomber

[idle breach]

I think it's safe to say

Shermans are ugly

[proper tapir]

yes

shermans are ugly

[idle breach]

it's just ugly

[grand zinc]

yea USA P51 Mustang vs ME 262 Germany

[unborn blaze]

The Tiger is too, really

[proper tapir]

it's like they designed it at a cartoon studio

[unborn blaze]

It's a box

The Tiger P looks better than the Tiger H

[idle breach]

at least tiger got some good proportion

[proper tapir]

ehhhh but the tiger is so legendary

[idle breach]

sherman looks like some middle aged man with beer belly

[proper tapir]

it makes it pretty

[grand zinc]

Junker 87 B2 'Stuka'

[proper tapir]

@idle breach exactly!

[pale rain]

I KNOW

[idle breach]

yeah exactly

I know shermans were good tank but

[proper tapir]

they were only good in that they were easy to produce, easy to fix

[grand zinc]

@proper tapir ITS LEGANDERY AND WILL BE LEGANDERY

[idle breach]

still, looks like some drunk old uncle hanging around in underwear

[proper tapir]

they got better looking later i think

with age

late bloomers

[grand zinc]

@idle breach tell that Uncle Sam

[proper tapir]

@grand zinc what about the stuka?

[idle breach]

in sheer look I prefer PZIV

[proper tapir]

it's one of those ugly/pretty planes too

[idle breach]

they look like really gritty veteran old fighter

[proper tapir]

i'd go with the panther

[grand zinc]

No i meant Tiger was and still legendry

[proper tapir]

oh yes

and i think good looking tank

[idle flume]

https://youtu.be/hlFlIwUouu4 :D

[shrewd grove]

I think the Tiger looks ugly

[idle breach]

panther looks too refined

[unborn blaze]

The Tiger is just a big, effective box

[idle breach]

like some

[grand zinc]

Panther best looking Tank and in a Battle best tank as well

[proper tapir]

it's not meant to be pretty - it's meant to be intimidating

[idle breach]

uh...

[proper tapir]

i get scared looking at tigers

[idle breach]

toy soldier

[shrewd grove]

I like the Pz IV more than the Tiger

[unborn blaze]

I'm more scared looking at the Bob Semple

[idle breach]

Pz IV sure good looking tank

[grand zinc]

I got lot of Selfies with German Tanks

[idle breach]

I'm kinda happy that DICE has choose the valentine?

[proper tapir]

early pz IV or late?

[grand zinc]

xD

[idle breach]

both one

[proper tapir]

yeah the valentine doesn't get much love

surprised they went with that over a crusader or something

[idle breach]

valentine is kinda good looking

unlike most of the other british tank

[unborn blaze]

Valentine is great

[proper tapir]

it was a work horse for sure

[grand zinc]

acutally they should have chosen Cromwell

[proper tapir]

though not that great early on

[idle breach]

WWII british war machines except planes all have some that...weird looking feeling

[proper tapir]

cromwell would be a good add

[unborn blaze]

Valentine in War Thunder is legendary

[idle breach]

from soldier uniforms to tanks

[grand zinc]

@proper tapir

[idle breach]

even guns

[unborn blaze]

The Valentine just bounces shots like nothing

[grand zinc]

i know a good deal for UK to have there own Sturmtiger

[unborn blaze]

They should also add the Matilda

[proper tapir]

when are we going to get to customize tanker and pilot uniforms?!?

[idle breach]

dunno

I want some voice customization

[grand zinc]

they had in WW2 'AVRE tank'

[proper tapir]

yeah the matilda II would be cool

[unborn blaze]

Yeah

[proper tapir]

should have had that as their heavy tank

[idle breach]

how about players can record their voice and use that as ingame voice line?

[proper tapir]

saved the churchill for later

[unborn blaze]

The Matilda is better than the Churchill

[idle breach]

I want to shout out my death scream when my character dies

[proper tapir]

well the germans couldn't destroy them at first

[unborn blaze]

Yeah

[proper tapir]

without lowering 88s, right?

[unborn blaze]

That's the T-34s

[idle breach]

matilda too

[proper tapir]

no happend first in france

[unborn blaze]

Lol

[idle breach]

think without 88mm they could destroy it with just explosives and

[unborn blaze]

Poor Germans didn't realize the guns were poopoo

[idle breach]

artys but

[proper tapir]

they had to direct fire 88s at matilda II counteroffensive

[grand zinc]

quick question on all of u

[idle breach]

88 it is..

[unborn blaze]

Matilda is just the best

[proper tapir]

BFV needs some random 88s on map

[grand zinc]

When the Tiger was first used?

[proper tapir]

1943

in desert?

[unborn blaze]

When it was first used

[proper tapir]

north africa?

[grand zinc]

no and yes

[unborn blaze]

Leningrad, 1943

Iirc

[proper tapir]

ah

[grand zinc]

1941 , Tunisia

[idle breach]

right before the DAK

[unborn blaze]

Lol

[idle breach]

as I know

oh

first in battle when

[grand zinc]

Deutsche Afrika Korp

[idle breach]

1942 leningrad

but just four

kinda like field test

[unborn blaze]

Basically, Leningrad

[proper tapir]

sounds right

i trust you

[unborn blaze]

The Tiger in War Thunder is weak

[grand zinc]

Lenningrad

[proper tapir]

it's good in WT if you use it right

[unborn blaze]

No

It's armour is garbage

[grand zinc]

The siege of Leningrad 1941-1944

[solid hinge]

Is the new TOW coming with firestorm?

[proper tapir]

well it's not as invincible as people think

[idle breach]

first true 'unit of tigers' was used in late 1942 afrika

[grand zinc]

@solid hinge yes

[solid hinge]

[idle breach]

soviets in leningrad must missed the tiger

oh no

[proper tapir]

i was thinking - US faced them at kasserine

[idle breach]

one out of four was captured lol

[grand zinc]

no they had to deal with the Panthers

[proper tapir]

wow - allowed first tigers to get captured

[celest tulip]

.

[solid hinge]

Panthers were dangerous

But poorly made

Complicated

[proper tapir]

no panthers in DAK as far as i know

[grand zinc]

1942 ,Tunisia ,Kasserine.

[proper tapir]

tigers

not panthers

[grand zinc]

i was talking about russian

[proper tapir]

oh right

kasserine would be good first op for BFV

for US

[solid hinge]

Tigers in africa were preforming pretty good

[grand zinc]

@proper tapir

[pale rain]

Yeah true

[proper tapir]

i'm actually hoping they go hard pacific

would be cool to have a bunch of island operations

beach landings

[grand zinc]

WE all know which map and Operation shall kick BfV Critics asses when it come

[proper tapir]

marines

which one?

[grand zinc]

N O R M A N D Y

[idle breach]

why didnt they gave pz4 nickname?

[solid hinge]

Yea

Sherman had a nice nickname

Match box

[proper tapir]

it was before we entered the war

[solid hinge]

[proper tapir]

"we" means US

[grand zinc]

Omaha , Utah , Gold , Juno and Sword

[proper tapir]

germans were like "oh they have names"

[grand zinc]

not excatly

[proper tapir]

@grand zinc i don't think they will do normandy

[idle breach]

tiger

panther

[shrewd grove]

Sherman had a nickname

[idle breach]

and panzer 4

[shrewd grove]

Tommy cooker

[idle breach]

it's like unloved child

[proper tapir]

purple heart box

zippo

[solid hinge]

Match box was more popular

Cuz of the shitty engine

[proper tapir]

and exposed ammo

[solid hinge]

Catches fire like crazy

[grand zinc]

Omaha and Utah are US , Juno and Sword UK and Gold Commonwealth

[proper tapir]

that's what would "cook off"

yeah i'd love to see normandy @grand zinc but i think it's lowest priority

[grand zinc]

that would be shit if Normandy didn't come in bf

[proper tapir]

i think we would see market garden or bulge before we see normandy

[grand zinc]

ahhh

[solid hinge]

Panzer Iv's nickname was depending on who you asked

[proper tapir]

if we see much western front at all

[grand zinc]

u know D-day give the Allies a foothold in Europe right?

[proper tapir]

i actually wouldn't mind seeing some italian campaign, pacific

[solid hinge]

We r still in 1940 right?

[proper tapir]

in lieu of the western battles

technically yes 1940-ish

[idle breach]

no were in 2019

[proper tapir]

greece is 1941

right before barbarossa

[solid hinge]

but the most common one was "Rotbart"

Greece was attacked in May 1941 right?

yes

Wtf

by italy at first

Ye

[proper tapir]

yeah - would have been a good opportunity to introduce italian faction...

[solid hinge]

then the greeks started kicking ass

[grand zinc]

Market Garden would be great Airbone map , i mean Market garden was only about US 101st and 82nd Airborne division and 30th British corp

[proper tapir]

with brits help

[idle breach]

no greece was attacked in BC 5th century by persians

[solid hinge]

Stop

[idle breach]

okay

[solid hinge]

and the germans had to more or less move divisions from the planned op barborossa to help italy out

[proper tapir]

market garden would fit the airborne/GO mode for sure

[solid hinge]

The greek had british tanks n guns

greece would surrender to germany not long after that

and only to germany

[idle breach]

want market garden

[proper tapir]

yeah barbarossa was delayed about a month to bail italy out of balkans

[pale rain]

Smh

[solid hinge]

ja

[grand zinc]

the british send Aid from Africa to Greece , that allows Rommel to take over ( not Toburk)

[idle breach]

airborne soldiers just hunkered in? not airdropped?

[proper tapir]

which airborne?

[idle breach]

dunno

the

mohawk haired division?

[proper tapir]

what battle?

market garden or greece?

[idle breach]

market garden

[solid hinge]

the 101st?

[proper tapir]

oh

yeah they had to secure bridges

[grand zinc]

anyone knows the true story behind FG42?

[solid hinge]

ok

[idle breach]

wasnt the paratrropers yeah

[proper tapir]

while british armor division pushed through

[solid hinge]

Ye

[idle breach]

that would not make an airborne map

[grand zinc]

but failed to secure the last on in Arnheim

[solid hinge]

FG42 was to be a catch all weapon for the german airborne

[proper tapir]

a bridge too far

[solid hinge]

the red devils?

[proper tapir]

yes

[grand zinc]

ohh

[proper tapir]

would make a good map

[grand zinc]

forgot them

[idle breach]

is red devils

[proper tapir]

arnhem

[idle breach]

british paratroopers

[proper tapir]

each of the bridge locations would be epic

[solid hinge]

it fired the 8mm mauser round, had a high rof and was portible

[grand zinc]

in german Arnheim sry m8

[proper tapir]

if they somehow tied into an overall map

[solid hinge]

And we dont have Red Devil FG42

however

[proper tapir]

overall operation i mean

[solid hinge]

It is a nice skin

[idle breach]

stop

it's not a nice skin

[proper tapir]

GO not built to handle that currently

[solid hinge]

@idle breach YEEEES

[idle breach]

no

[grand zinc]

Red Devil was the British 1st Airborne division

[solid hinge]

[proper tapir]

yes

trapped at arnhem

[idle breach]

if you insist I will start to say stupid things again

[grand zinc]

exactly

[proper tapir]

holding out against SS panzer divisions...

[pale rain]

[grand zinc]

@proper tapir can i ask u something ?

how do u know all this?

[solid hinge]

i think it was the florien geyer division

[idle breach]

because he was been there

[proper tapir]

@grand zinc i like my WW2 😉

[grand zinc]

if someone asked me , i know it from RUSE

[proper tapir]

i studied it

[solid hinge]

ruse

[grand zinc]

@proper tapir me to

[unborn blaze]

Can the .50s on the Spitfire hurt a Panzer IV?

[stoic breach]

You guys ever realise "Spitfires" from the BFV soundtrack sounds like an updated version of a song from Halo 3

[proper tapir]

we are talking basics though - lots of you know a hell lot more about specific weapons and stuff 😉

[grand zinc]

RUSE is my Fav Game since 2010

[proper tapir]

i was told by my grandfather, who manned a .50 on a B-26 that they used to fire at pavement underneath german tanks and it would richocet up into belly...

[solid hinge]

i know

[proper tapir]

not sure if that's accurate, but it's what he claimed

[stoic breach]

Thats wild

[solid hinge]

very

[proper tapir]

i mean tanks are infamously light armored on belly

but still

i mean a .50 cal round is no joke

[solid hinge]

he flew a Marauder?

jesus

[proper tapir]

he was crew

not pilot

mostly tail gunned

[solid hinge]

i had one grandfather in the Wehrmacht

[proper tapir]

so he had the view

[solid hinge]

and one was a US marine

[proper tapir]

ha

[solid hinge]

thanksgivings were uh....

awkward

[proper tapir]

haha

[grand zinc]

My Grandfather was a Tank commander

[proper tapir]

i was a tank commander!

[grand zinc]

German xD

[proper tapir]

oh really?

[grand zinc]

yes

we lost him in Russia in a Panther

[proper tapir]

oh wow

[stoic breach]

Dang

[proper tapir]

not many made it out of russia

crazy really

[idle breach]

my grandfather was a civvie running away for his life

[grand zinc]

he sent once in his Letter form Russia

[idle breach]

both grandfather

and both grandmother

[proper tapir]

where are you from @idle breach ?

[idle breach]

oh no mother's side was working

my mother was from japan

father was korea

[grand zinc]

saying he wished to serve a Tiger in africa under command of Erwin Rommel

[idle breach]

born in japan raised in korea

[proper tapir]

awesome

[idle breach]

no it's not awesome

[proper tapir]

no?

[idle breach]

yeah no

no

nope nope

this is just a peninsula of nope

[grand zinc]

BANZAIII

[solid hinge]

Koreans and Japanese are uh....fuck you, but we hate the chicoms more deal

as in the Japanese empire did a lot of fucked shit during its twilight years

[idle breach]

koreans and japanese are just like

complicated

[solid hinge]

very

[grand zinc]

and dont forget K-pop

[idle breach]

really.

[proper tapir]

aren't we all?

[idle breach]

not like some political complicated middle eastern complicated thing but

[proper tapir]

haha

[idle breach]

more like stupid complicated

kinda like koreans

I hate japanese, they sucks

but I love japanese porn

and sushi

[grand zinc]

xD

[idle breach]

and japense like

koreans? meh...

[solid hinge]

well, Korea for a long time was under the thumb of the japanese after being.....sold or traded by china after the end of the 1st sino japanese war

irc

[idle breach]

yeah I'd want to visit korea next year

kinda thing nowdays