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weak violet
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oh wait

midnight nimbus
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Bren is the best >50m MG

sonic rampart
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🔨picard

weak violet
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Does it actually

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Omg

dense bone
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yeaaa pretty sure thats against the rules

sonic rampart
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👀🔨picard

dense bone
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oooo its a person

idle breach
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why?

dense bone
weak violet
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Its a person

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xD

scenic beacon
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No gulag today...

weak violet
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He wanted to be pinged 5 times

midnight nimbus
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beats every LMG at >50m, actually just loses to 670 RPM MG34

sonic rampart
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Good to have you known

forest field
ancient ocean
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The dude that mention everybody?

weak violet
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His name is everyone

forest field
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@ancient ocean ?

short pelican
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Lol

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Smartarse

ancient ocean
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Who's getting banned

midnight nimbus
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i'm ready for the M1919 H Y P E though

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and MG30

sonic rampart
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Wait what if you

forest field
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no one is getting banned

midnight nimbus
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support actually just gets 3 solid af guns

sonic rampart
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Nvm

hybrid dock
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chauchat fires slow but hits hard

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good for long range

midnight nimbus
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nah Chauchat is a midrange gun

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its ok at range

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its not terrible in single fire mode

hybrid dock
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but it's so fun to say

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and the sound is cool

midnight nimbus
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show-show

ancient ocean
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The chu-chuuuuuuuu

shrewd grove
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show shah

solid hinge
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how are the m1919 and the mg30?

ancient ocean
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Not as good as Thomson

hybrid dock
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chat in French is cat

midnight nimbus
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M1919 has a great damage model

hybrid dock
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chau is hot in French

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so

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hotcat

midnight nimbus
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better end damage than current LMGs

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and it has insane velocity

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MG30 is smallmag MMG nuke

hybrid dock
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wat

solid hinge
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oh baby

midnight nimbus
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neither have finalized hrec values, but weapon designer is good at setting hrec values

hybrid dock
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those guns aren't in bf5 unless they were in bf1

midnight nimbus
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i think M1919 has the best velocity in the game

solid hinge
midnight nimbus
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beats MAS

solid hinge
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You're kidding me

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Even with velocity spec?

hybrid dock
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wtf

midnight nimbus
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but idk what the fast bullets upgrades puts it at, that's not final

sonic rampart
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Get out semi assault snipersnotlikethis

hybrid dock
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am I retarded?

midnight nimbus
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no, unupgraded M1919 velocity > MAS unupgraded

sonic rampart
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Use an auto-rifle

solid hinge
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holy shit

scenic beacon
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gives it a telescopic variant like in bf1

midnight nimbus
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and thicc af mag by default

solid hinge
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does it have the accuracy to use it effectively?

hybrid dock
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WHERE IS M1919 IN BF5 NANI

solid hinge
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Long range bigmag lmg

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oh heavens

scenic beacon
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*mmg

hybrid dock
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hmg

solid hinge
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oh it's an mmg!

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Ok that's not quite so scary

scenic beacon
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Literally the 1917 from bf1

hybrid dock
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12.7 when

scenic beacon
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but 1919

midnight nimbus
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M1919 gets rapid fire option, but not worth

solid hinge
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Does it replace the mg34 in terms of usefulness?

midnight nimbus
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just use reduced hrec option

hybrid dock
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where are you getting this info

midnight nimbus
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datamine

hybrid dock
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help I'm extremely lost

midnight nimbus
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600 RPM standard is solid too

hybrid dock
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oh

solid hinge
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Me too

hybrid dock
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OOOH

midnight nimbus
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rapid fire at 720 prolly

hybrid dock
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I'm actually retarded

solid hinge
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Who here uses the MG42 with 1,200 rate of fire?

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That's a meaty weapon

warm atlas
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Not meeee

ancient ocean
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Nobody

solid hinge
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Slow firing long range big mag

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I do

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It's perfect

hybrid dock
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mg42 big trash

warm atlas
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You buggin

solid hinge
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How's the mg30 compare to fastfire mg42?

hybrid dock
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rather use 1922 or vgo

solid hinge
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I prefer MG34

midnight nimbus
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no zoom optics on M1919 though 😦

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MG30 doesn't shoot as fast as MG42

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but doesn't matter

hybrid dock
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no mmgs have zoom optics

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so

midnight nimbus
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yeah its kinda dumb

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MG30 could really use them

solid hinge
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Get those AA sights 300 metre kills

hybrid dock
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no

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it's good

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it would enable them to sit back and just shoot

midnight nimbus
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that's what they're encouraged to do anyways

solid hinge
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They're still gonna get two tapped by every semi

midnight nimbus
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no zoom wouldn't be a problem if suppression actually did anything

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but either way, MG30 looks hype

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you can spec it out for max accuracy well

solid hinge
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More weapons is fun!

hybrid dock
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well people complained about suppression being annoying in 3 and 4

sonic rampart
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Yesss more weapons Yay

hybrid dock
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so they made it visual only

midnight nimbus
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BF1 suppression was perfect

sonic rampart
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Seriously just add more maps

hybrid dock
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now ppl complain

solid hinge
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It's barely even visual in bfv

sonic rampart
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maps > guns

midnight nimbus
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you can disable the visual effects of suppression entirely with low enough settings

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which is what i do

hybrid dock
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maps are hard to make

solid hinge
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holy shit

sonic rampart
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Ik

hybrid dock
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please realise this

sonic rampart
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But with new maps come new guns

hybrid dock
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did you not see how much work goes into making the mp40

midnight nimbus
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no way the MG30 specs are final though, the spec options look too good to be true

solar bear
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Free my dude @silver field

hoary condor
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any news on new snipers? sad

hybrid dock
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New sniper chapter 3

midnight nimbus
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uh Enfield is ok ig

hoary condor
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Whoop!

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I use the Enfield more than any sniper

hybrid dock
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I'm excited for new smgs in chapter 3

midnight nimbus
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prolly the best spec options of any sniper

hybrid dock
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I believe the new sniper is an American Enfield

scenic beacon
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I kinda want the welrod

hoary condor
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Have they named what ones?

midnight nimbus
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too lazy to figure out RoF but who cares

solid hinge
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It gets different specs?

hybrid dock
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ross is my fav

solid hinge
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That's a change

hybrid dock
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I got over 500 kills

hoary condor
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Thought they might of added the Springfield

hybrid dock
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American weapons will come with Americans

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be patient

hoary condor
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Going to check my kills for the enfield now

midnight nimbus
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like being able to stack quick ADS + fast move + rapid fire + low drag

solid hinge
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For real?

midnight nimbus
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idk how final that is though

solid hinge
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That's all the best options in one go

midnight nimbus
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i doubt it'll change much

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80-60 damage, 700 m/s

hoary condor
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train wifi sucks

hybrid dock
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M1917 Enfield is the new sniper coming I believe

solid hinge
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another long range one

hoary condor
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hope that comes with a scope.. a long range one

midnight nimbus
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i mean all sniper rifles have the same 6x option

solid hinge
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Those stats and specs would be a real nice combo

midnight nimbus
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even if RoF sucks, it's still decent for a BA ig

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it's still a bolt action at the end of the day

hoary condor
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Yeah

midnight nimbus
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only actual good upcoming guns are support

solid hinge
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It'll be the only 700m/s one with fast move

hoary condor
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wonder if the germans will get another sniper? Or if it's the same for both

solid hinge
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That alone makes it good

hybrid dock
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Patchett, Lanchester, Madsen MG, M1917 Enfield, and Welgun are the new weapons in chapter 3

toxic axle
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How to carry nade around in your hand? I seen one of my friend hold smoke nade in his hand.

hoary condor
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go to throw it but don't let go?

toxic axle
hoary condor
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just make sure its not a frag Kappa

midnight nimbus
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Patchett and Lanchester are nothing special

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at all

toxic axle
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Image sent.

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How to carry aound like that?

midnight nimbus
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Madsen is decent imo

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better than KE7, but still nothing special

solid hinge
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@toxic axle no idea! Haven't seen that before

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It's nice to have more mmgs available

hybrid dock
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welgun is cool

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also sterling is cool too wtf

midnight nimbus
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Madsen has super solid upgrades, really easy recoil, and pretty good reload speed

hybrid dock
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it's still used today

hoary condor
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sterling is cool

midnight nimbus
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10/10 take it over the KE7

hoary condor
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ke7 is garbage.. personal opinion

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or i'm terrible with it, which is probably correct

hybrid dock
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chauchat for delux only

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thx

midnight nimbus
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KE7 is super mediocre and wasn't even that good on launch

hoary condor
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i've never been keen on it, tried it.. never again LUL

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stick with my Enfield

hybrid dock
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ross > Enfield

midnight nimbus
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Ross is kind of a meme

hybrid dock
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well ross is fun

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so

midnight nimbus
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RoF isn't that fast, and you have to use irons to get straight pull

hybrid dock
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sets me apart from all the Enfield users

midnight nimbus
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need BF1 bolts back pls

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they were actually good

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i guess Lanchester isn't terrible, it's basically just MP28 2.0

short pelican
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Guys, you know that? We need australians uniforms and Bob Semple tank

midnight nimbus
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a bit more accurate, slower firing

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basically just a bad MP28

solid hinge
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bob semple would unironically be the best tank in the game

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provided the mgs can shoot people close to the tank

short pelican
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Then Soviets do cheap gun - PPSh-41 and PPS-43
Then Britisg do cheap gun - Sten
Then US do cheap gun - M3

idle breach
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medic is the powerhouse of the team

midnight nimbus
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man RoF boost has to do something pretty special to the Welgun for it to not be a total meme

solid hinge
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a bad mp28? thats pretty niche

midnight nimbus
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like identical upgrades to the MP28

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one RoF notch slower

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kinda like the Suomi vs Thompson

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except the Lanchester's not even that much easier to use and reloads are virtually identical

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and with SMGs, lower RoF doesn't win out until >30m

solid hinge
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Yeesh

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If it's gonna be that samey then that's a lame thing to add

midnight nimbus
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like the Thompson at least has a reason to exist when the Suomi exists because it's significantly easier to use

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in terms of recoil and reload

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why is the Lanchester a thing

hybrid dock
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maybe it will be different

midnight nimbus
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looking at stats and upgrades

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why would you use Lanchester at all when the MP28 exists

solid hinge
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What are the chances of it being significantly changed before release

midnight nimbus
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significant? low

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it's not that much shittier than the MP28, but it offers no relevant benefit imo

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i'd say it'd be semi-relevant if it had less vertical recoil and a faster reload

solid hinge
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poor medic

untold cliff
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medic didn't get a shotgun in this BF

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poor medic

solid hinge
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I wish you could use any weapon tbh

untold cliff
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tbh that'd be fun but also fucked

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Just wish the medics had a viable weapon

midnight nimbus
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BF should just have create a class

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honestly

untold cliff
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honestly

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it does

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but like

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it needs more

midnight nimbus
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at this point, class recognition means nothing anymore bc of customization

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might as well fuck it up some more

untold cliff
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I meant as in add American weapons and gadgets

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like give the Assaults an M1 Garand and the Scout a Springfield or whatever

ancient ocean
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They need to nerf debris and fix it so that it doesn't damage you 50 meters away from the house after you get out.

untold cliff
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bring back the Bar and give the medics a grease gun

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FR

midnight nimbus
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grease gun would be troll tier unusable tho

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like better than the liberator ig

untold cliff
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I mean Debris hurt n shit but its not as bad as they make it

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im guessing you have never fired a gun

midnight nimbus
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> 450 RPM
> 4-8 BTK

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kek

jagged vector
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Each debris hit does 20 dot

weak violet
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Yeah its not just omg i little piece of dirt hit me i took 75 damage

midnight nimbus
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i've fired plenty of guns, too bad BF follows set weapon balancing rules

untold cliff
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death by dirt, then it says im burning out

jagged vector
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So if you get hit while escaping the danger zone, it has to finish damaging you

untold cliff
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beaten to death by dirt then set on fire by it

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genius

midnight nimbus
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grease gun would be better than the pistol carbines i guess

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probably worse than the De Lisle though

untold cliff
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Yeah thats what I was going for

weak violet
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Hey dirt burns when it hits your skin at high speed

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BFV logic

untold cliff
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but only for some classes

midnight nimbus
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but the pistol carbines are also unusable

untold cliff
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fire dirt

weak violet
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I just spam heals when i am medic

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When debris start damaging me

untold cliff
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I'm a support / assault but im about to move onto medic

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so Ill finally not have to worry about health for a while

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it's gonna be great

dense bone
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if youre not spamming heal as support youre doing it wrong

weak violet
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Is MP40 or siemous better with hip fire

untold cliff
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@dense bone frfr

weak violet
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oof its not siemous

midnight nimbus
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maybe i'll play BFV this week to tank on Breakthrough

solid hinge
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siemous?

dense bone
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^

untold cliff
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running MMG is dangerous as hell

weak violet
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Screwed up

jagged vector
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Medic should’ve gotten the 8 round ribeyrolles

midnight nimbus
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infy is just kinda unfun

weak violet
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You know what i mean

dense bone
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no i dont...

untold cliff
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Medic should have gotten a fuckin gun rather a nerf dart blaster

solid hinge
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Sten

dense bone
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im so confused

weak violet
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Not sten the 2nd gun you unlock, that has a 50 round upgrade

dense bone
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suomi?

weak violet
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Yes

untold cliff
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N O

midnight nimbus
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if BFV just had BF3-esque class arrangements, it'd be perfectly fine

dense bone
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suomi is way better hipfire

untold cliff
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the one with the bipod

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aaA

jagged vector
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The suomiiiii

untold cliff
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its the only good thing

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bipod

weak violet
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I just hipfire with the MP40 mostly

dense bone
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mp40 is way better ads

ancient ocean
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ZK

dense bone
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mp40 is ok hipfire

weak violet
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even tho i got it spec for ADS

dense bone
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if you want to hipfure use the suomi

untold cliff
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mp40 has great ADS but it lacks power

weak violet
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Like its all ADS and i only use hipfire

midnight nimbus
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MP28 for bigmag hipfire

untold cliff
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thats my problem with it

dense bone
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but y doe

untold cliff
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never use the large mag use the fire rate

midnight nimbus
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Suomi smallmag for insta-death hipfire

untold cliff
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you ding

weak violet
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Cus thats my playstyle

midnight nimbus
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MP28 doesn't have rapid fire

untold cliff
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aaAAA

ancient ocean
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Thomson with drum mag is just a point and click adventure gane

dense bone
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yes its your playstyle, so spec it for that

weak violet
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I like to get straight up enemys face so i usally hipfire

untold cliff
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fr I love picking up the Tommy

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its fun from another universe if your support

midnight nimbus
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Tommy macro tho

weak violet
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I sometimes use the ADS but thats for those MMG users

midnight nimbus
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haven't used it, but the clips are obscene

untold cliff
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Yeah im a god with MMG

ancient ocean
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I have Thomson full gold

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Gtg

untold cliff
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disgusting and bye lol

dense bone
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@midnight nimbus people macro the thompson single fire?

untold cliff
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Thompson singlefire is like firing cactus spines at someone

midnight nimbus
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not if you macro ig

untold cliff
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it doesn't do much but if you hit their eyes

midnight nimbus
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actually lemme see if DICE patched that out yet

dense bone
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im confused what youre saying they do with macro on thompson

topaz dome
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picking up guns from others kits = 200 iq play, recon/medic with assault rifles, medic with mmg happy

midnight nimbus
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oh nevermind, they fixed it

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so on launch, Thompson didn't have single fire mode

untold cliff
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MMG medic is sicko mode with a side of downy

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submachine gun support is downy with a dash of barbecue sauce

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Assault and a sniper is not smart

midnight nimbus
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when they added it, they forgot to put 449.0 next to RateOfFireForSingleFire and put in -1 instead

untold cliff
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and Sniper + assault is also not smart

midnight nimbus
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so your semiauto firerate cap = your full auto firerate

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and going semiauto decreases spread and recoil by a lot

untold cliff
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point n click

midnight nimbus
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so if you macroed it at 720 or 900 RPM, it was obscene

untold cliff
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faster u click faster u win

dense bone
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so you can full auto macro without recoil

midnight nimbus
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well, you have some recoil

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just not a lot

dense bone
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well with very little

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i always hear this stuff late

midnight nimbus
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semi auto mode in BFV is like 0.5x hrec, 0.5x SIPS, way less vrec, and it nukes your recoil pattern

untold cliff
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I never check the news n the Updates, I like finding them on my own unless it's shoved in my face

midnight nimbus
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i knew about since they added it, but i just assumed people never caught on

untold cliff
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I think ive only run into someone who did that once but they ended the match 60/20 or something

weak violet
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Along with that i use the sumoi ADSing most of the time

midnight nimbus
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well yeah, ADSing is effective

weak violet
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So i have been playing MP40 and Sumoi to their weakness;s this whole time

midnight nimbus
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hipfire only within 10-15m

weak violet
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For the sumoi or Mp40?

solid hinge
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Fun fact, auto fire macros are technically against the terms of service

dense bone
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yea it sounds like youre not playing to the guns strengths

midnight nimbus
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all SMGs

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if you aren't hipfiring SMGs up close, you're using them wrong

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that's the only way they beat other guns

haughty pawn
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wtf does macro even mean ?

midnight nimbus
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@solid hinge yeah, but DICE has never done anything about click macros and doesn't have any automated system to detect them so 🤷🏼‍♀️

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and the ToS is forgiving of a lot of things and isn't taken literally

solid hinge
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Doesn't make an exploit okay

midnight nimbus
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like a macro can be as simple as binding grenade to a side mouse button

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an exploit can be zouzou, which was heavily used in BF4 comp play and no one cared

solid hinge
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That's not a macro, that's a key bind, and you know it, don't try that type of argument

midnight nimbus
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the line between what constitutes an illegal macro or exploit is blurry

finite stratus
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Illegal macro, what are you talking?

haughty pawn
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ah i get it,those cheating scripts

midnight nimbus
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or I have a macro that hits 3 for me and automatically hits LMB for throwing ammo crates

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hardly "unfair" territory

solid hinge
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I'm just saying, you're basically tampering with the recoil. Just because it's an issue dice should fix, it doesn't make it A-OK to use it to gain an advantage

midnight nimbus
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DICE silently patched out the Thompson semi auto fire rate cap already

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if you read what was above

solid hinge
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ban kht they throw ammo crates 0.5 seconds faster than me

midnight nimbus
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yeah, my point exactly. ToS was never meant to be taken literally, and because of that, lines are blurry

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top level BF play was all about exploiting holes in games

solid hinge
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But you're using macros to basically get full auto with lower recoil.

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If it didn't give you an unfair advantage, you wouldn't be using it

midnight nimbus
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like i said above, I never used it and it was patched out

finite stratus
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I honestly don't think recoil is a big problem

midnight nimbus
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I was simply aware of it

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"unfair advantage" is a blurry line in PVP games at the end of the day

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zouzou jump is an unfair advantage

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same with euro hipfire

finite stratus
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Like, recoil in my opinion is pretty easy to control I don't get why you would make a script for that

solid hinge
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I think this issue irös pretty clear

midnight nimbus
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neither are intended features, but were prominent in competitive play

dense bone
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unfair advantage can be using "ideal" mouse settings vs someone who has dpi at 12000 and sens at 20

midnight nimbus
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@finite stratus it's not that the Thompson semi auto issue was about ease of use, it was that using it in semi auto at 720 RPM vs full auto at 720 was far more accurate

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and even then, I wouldn't consider it unfair

solid hinge
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i personally would

finite stratus
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Same

midnight nimbus
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because ARs/LMGs/SARs were still better at range

solid hinge
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you gotta click real fast to reach 720rpm

dense bone
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yea i think thats safely in the unfair category

midnight nimbus
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the semi auto exploit just made the Thompson way better than other SMGs

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cheesy, yes, but not unfair in the bigger picture of weapon balance imo

dense bone
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which for balancing overall is a problem

solid hinge
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If it's beyond (most) human capability then I'd frown on it

dense bone
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but weapon balance isnt the only problem

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theres more to a class than their weapon

solid hinge
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I don't wanna lose to other medics with the same gun cause they're pulling inhumane stunts

dense bone
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^

midnight nimbus
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it ultimately speaks to the problem that medic shouldn't be an SMG class

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that's all

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not in BFV with its maps anyways

dense bone
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i disagree since medics have much more to them than their guns

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their spm is the highest

midnight nimbus
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SPM doesn't directly mean they're effective though

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much more to it than that

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healing and revives give a ton of points, but that alone doesn't say anything about medic effectiveness

uneven sun
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how do i access both the need ammo/medic wheel and the artillery wheel?

dense bone
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its a good indication, it just varies how effective they are in the game depending on who they are reviving

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but even so, theres always power in numbers, and they directly influence that

keen kraken
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Hey guys, Hey, Rylo887 on PS4 BFV. I have rank 20 Support and rank 18 Medic.

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Always looking to join up with squads

dense bone
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!lfg

junior mistBOT
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dense bone
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@keen kraken

keen kraken
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Ah just checking in lol

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But thanks

midnight nimbus
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distribution of heals/revives per minute is still pretty poor in BFV

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even with smoke, medic's lack of ranged relevance still presents some issues

dense bone
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of course, but all classes lack something

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range and ammo is what medic lacks

midnight nimbus
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idk, I think having both ARs and SMGs would've been beneficial for medic, since they're still less effective at range than other classes

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SMGs can actually make recon relevant as well

dense bone
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its definitely beneficial, but overkill imo

midnight nimbus
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not really, ARs still lose at range to other classes pretty cleanly

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move back towards BFs where all classes can contribute to causes

solid hinge
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keep ARs in the assault class

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literally the only weapon you can assault with

midnight nimbus
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assault is fine with SARs

solid hinge
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otherwise it'd be a sniper class through and through

dense bone
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im just looking at balance with everything involved, and i think they are in a good spot other than recon, weapon balance is only a part of the puzzle

midnight nimbus
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weapon balance is actually extremely good in BFV

weak violet
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Hello

midnight nimbus
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for a BF game

sonic rampart
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^

dense bone
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since smg update i havent felt outclassed at range other than pretty extreme ranged

midnight nimbus
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almost as good as BF1 at this point

dense bone
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like, semi auto range

weak violet
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So for the sumoi i should use it for hipfire right

sonic rampart
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Semis feel too op for me

weak violet
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and the 50 bullet upgrade

dense bone
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suomi is definitely a hipfire gun

midnight nimbus
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I don't think semi auto sniping is problematic, automatics' lack of power at range is problematic

weak violet
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Yeah, although i aim down sights with it a lot of the time

dense bone
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i use 50 mag since im a flanker, and having more bullets is always helpful

snow crater
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what's with the planes on narvik breakthrough

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they never spawn on time

weak violet
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Yeah, so i am guessing don't aim down sights with the sumoi

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and aim down sights with MP40

dense bone
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TTK between ROF upgrade and stock isnt drastic imo

midnight nimbus
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aim down sights past 15m for all SMGs

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hipfire before that

dense bone
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and really weakens your multi kill potential

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and accuracy for that matter

midnight nimbus
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I mean yeah, that's how weapons are designed in BF

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you have diminishing returns to TTK reduction

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as your gun is more and more capable of low TTK, it increasingly has to sacrifice usability

weak violet
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I mean i should really start using weapons to their strengths

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Although MP40 i do still do decent with it

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even tho i am i idiot for not ads with it

dense bone
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mp 40 is solid all around honestly

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but i think its ADS favored

weak violet
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Ye but i am gonna change it to hipfire

midnight nimbus
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yeah, MP40 is good with max ADS upgrades

weak violet
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thats all i do basically

midnight nimbus
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don't bother with hipfire specs imo

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just use a different gun

weak violet
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:((

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But muh MP40

midnight nimbus
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or use EMP if you want to ADS and hipfire

weak violet
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How will i make the allys fear MP40 if i don't kill them with hipfire

midnight nimbus
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since you can stack barrel bedding with hipfire upgrades

weak violet
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😭

dense bone
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i mean play how you want, but im about maximizing efficiency

midnight nimbus
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Suomi rapid fire is still extremely good

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i only use Suomi on medic

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because it's actually good at SMG things

dense bone
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suomi/mp40 for me, just depends on map or points ill be playing

midnight nimbus
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low RoF SMGs are just shit assault rifles that can hipfire if needed

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if i wanted to play pseudo AR, MP34 > MP40

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or even ZK > MP40

dense bone
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is mp34 the 20 mag smg?

midnight nimbus
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low RoF gets you 32

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which is the better variant anyways

dense bone
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i never leveled that because of the 20 round mag, hated it

weak violet
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Yeah, although i heard the thompson is a direct upgrade to sumoi or are they very similar

midnight nimbus
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yeah, MP34 is super shit unupgraded

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Suomi is a direct upgrade to the Thompson

dense bone
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pre suomi buff i liked the thompson more

midnight nimbus
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Thompson just has very good ease of use

dense bone
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post buff imo theres no reason to pick the thompson over suomi

midnight nimbus
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no, Suomi buff barely did anything

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Thompson/Suomi changes did nothing to change their relationship

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just fine tuned it

dense bone
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call it placebo, but suomi was way easier to control ADS after suomi/smg buff

midnight nimbus
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prolly placebo

old pine
dense bone
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close enough that it didnt feel much harder to use than thompson

midnight nimbus
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Suomi always killed faster at relevant ranges

weak violet
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Which is the best shotgun, M1987, Drilling, or 12g

midnight nimbus
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and the ease of use changes were basically insignificant

weak violet
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Fully upgraded

midnight nimbus
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Drilling, but shotguns kinda suck

dense bone
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well, if it was always better, but harder to use, and they buffed it, thats something

azure lark
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if you can control the recoil, ROF trumps everything else

midnight nimbus
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no

weak violet
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So drilling, hmm ok, although i have found a lot of trouble using that weapon

midnight nimbus
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for SMGs, RoF only trumps everything at <30m

azure lark
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if you put more bullets into them than they put into you, you win

midnight nimbus
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past that, lower RoF is always better

azure lark
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yeah, if you're using a high ROF smg at mid range, wtf is wrong with you lol

dense bone
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the problem is that its not always easy to control higher ROF

weak violet
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If you put more bullets into their head then they put into you you win

midnight nimbus
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but I always pick biggest RoF for SMGs

dense bone
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theres no universal "high rof better"

weak violet
midnight nimbus
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because even the slower firing ones aren't amazing at midrange

weak violet
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If you kill them before they kill you, you win

dense bone
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some people can control certain guns better even if they are hard to control

midnight nimbus
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if i have to play midrange, I don't play medic

weak violet
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Big brain right their

midnight nimbus
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so basically I almost never play medic

azure lark
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like rush, smoke em, rush in with high rof sumoi or thompson and have fun

midnight nimbus
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can't help people if you can't help yourself

dense bone
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go mp40 for mid and not screwed close

weak violet
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I just spam smoke with the medic

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when i want my team to push

midnight nimbus
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MP40 still sucks at midrange compared to other weapon classes

weak violet
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Open area turns into smoke heaven

azure lark
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spamming smoke is fun. I want to be a squad leader medic, so I can do smoke barrage and throw all my smoke

weak violet
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Its how i get those idiots to push

dense bone
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sure, but most people suck so i still beat them

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and if you cant beat them and you know it you can smoke

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you should have 5 of them

weak violet
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I love using smoke as bait

midnight nimbus
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I love using downed enemies as bait

weak violet
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Like in close to mid quarters combat i just smoke the area i was shot from

midnight nimbus
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lol @ medics who think smoke makes me magically forget where the downed enemy fell

weak violet
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Then wait in another area while the other dude just runs into the smoke thinking i ran away

midnight nimbus
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attrition makes BFV the only BF where I generally refuse to get up close

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maybe I'm lazier and more risk adverse than I used to be

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but fragging in CQB is too much effort

weak violet
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I like to get up close rather then fight from further away, more fun and easier for me

midnight nimbus
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BFV is a game that's intended to be defensive, so I'm gonna play it that way

weak violet
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The best defense is offense

dense bone
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most of my kills are probably within 30m

weak violet
midnight nimbus
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fact: you can't die to SMGs if you don't play up close at all

weak violet
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Fact; you can still die to it

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If they got hacks

dense bone
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me and my mp40 beg to differ

weak violet
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xD

midnight nimbus
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and BFV is the first game where guns are actually accurate enough for 100m

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100m StG was the original design intent

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obviously got nerfed from its Alpha/Beta glory

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but other guns took that role

solid hinge
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the bolts love it

dense bone
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bolts are lame

weak violet
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SLR kinda trump the bolts

solid hinge
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everything trumps the bolts

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no idea why they made it capable of doing 50 damage on hit

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That's pathetic

weak violet
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Just grab a SLR/Semi as a medic then you destroy all snipers

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50 damage is so weak

solid hinge
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50/54 damage in a game where you have an instant begin regen button

weak violet
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They can just run away and heal so you have to hit them 2 more times

dense bone
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ZH master race

weak violet
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If they are a medic its gonna be 4 or 5 hits

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1906 Master race

solid hinge
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ZH feels like the ultimate long range recon weapon

weak violet
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As medics can easily out heal 50 damage you do

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Along with missing 1 shot means you can't kill the medic

dense bone
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1906 and zh are pretty on par for me, i just like zh looks more

solid hinge
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Detatch 6 round mag with higher bullet velocity than every bolt

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I'd put the 1906 for more aggressive use

weak violet
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Also ZH, doesn't it have the highest bullet damage of SLRs

solid hinge
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Strip clips and 2x scope

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I think the ZH and 1906 have the same? I know they're both 2 shots but I'd be surprised if their damage differed

dense bone
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kpm on 1906 is slightly better than zh

weak violet
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But the higher recoil

midnight nimbus
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ZH and 1906 do the same damage

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same bullet

solid hinge
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1906 shoots faster in exchange for higher recoil and no detatch mag right?

weak violet
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Yeah

midnight nimbus
#

yeah basically

dense bone
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same velocity?

midnight nimbus
#

yes

solid hinge
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720?

midnight nimbus
#

main perk of the 1906 is the 2x scope

solid hinge
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It's a pretty scope

dense bone
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so 1906 is better for range vs zh is better for closer encounters

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well

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1906 has high rof

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but i know that 1906 reload has killed me often

midnight nimbus
#

I mean neither are great for closer encounters

weak violet
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Yeah, although tbh i hardly ever do mid to long range combat so i won't really know these weapons well

dense bone
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i pick them to switch things up on certain maps

weak violet
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I stick with my shotguns and SMGs

dense bone
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they arent really my play style either

midnight nimbus
#

there's literally zero reason to pick the rapid fire ZH

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honestly

untold cliff
#

I tear with MMG

weak violet
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Or ooha with muh MP34 and go close range with that

dense bone
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i basically use everything but shotguns, mmgs and bolts

pale rain
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I use everything every now and then

weak violet
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I use shotguns, SMGs, assualt rifles, and SLRs kinda

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I like to specialize in certain weapons so that i can get extremely good with them

dense bone
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i just gold them and then move on

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other than model 8, fuck golding that

midnight nimbus
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I only play assault for SARs and 1907, support with Bren and the occasional FG42, and the rare medic Suomi

solid hinge
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I'd put ZH for more stationary 3x scope stuff and 1906 for more pushing

midnight nimbus
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but not touching infy until Chauchat drops

solid hinge
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What's your favourite SAR?

midnight nimbus
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depends on map

dense bone
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g1-5 all day

midnight nimbus
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but I use most of them

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they're all solid

weak violet
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MP40 is the SMG i specialize in, M1987 for shotguns, 1906, and all the assault rifles

midnight nimbus
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1916 or AG on Aerodrome/Hamada

dense bone
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m1a1 for slightly larger maps, and mas for large maps

midnight nimbus
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MAS-44 for most maps

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M1A1 or G 1-5 for smaller maps

solid hinge
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mp40 sux

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mp34 schweine cutter is beast

weak violet
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no u

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xD

solid hinge
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KEINE GNADEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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MAS scares me

dense bone
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also depends on game mode, when i played squad conquest you really dont need more than the mas

weak violet
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MAS kills recons

midnight nimbus
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MAS kills everything

weak violet
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Because recons have fun is a no go

midnight nimbus
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I like Bren a lot just bc it's good on maps where I rep monkey for friends

solid hinge
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it's popularity has dropped off but occasionally you get that feeling of almost hitscan death and they have the MAS always

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i like the bran

weak violet
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I never played conquest, squad conquest

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Not my style

solid hinge
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bran and blood tub are good

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wanna try out the gf42 but im not high lvl enough

weak violet
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what the..

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blood tub

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um

dense bone
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fg42 is good for just a couple of enemies

solid hinge
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Squad conquest was less conquest and more 8 vs 8 spawn camp competition

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yea

dense bone
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as a flanker, i dont like it

solid hinge
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blood tub

weak violet
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FG42 i use a decent amount

solid hinge
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the gun with the disc on top

midnight nimbus
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FG42 = unlimited ammo assault rifle

weak violet
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What is blood tub

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You mean lewis gun

solid hinge
#

ya

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fg42 is brutal

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aka blood tub

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but that small mag

dense bone
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lewis is incredible

weak violet
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What the.. no call it lewis

dense bone
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especially with ads and accuracy increases

weak violet
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Blood tub is such a weird name for a gun

dense bone
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the thing is a laser

solid hinge
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it was called the blood tub in bf1

weak violet
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Ok buddy you ok

solid hinge
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i get more out of the lewis than the bren

weak violet
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I use the bren a lot

solid hinge
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that slight rof increase and bigger mag is noticeable

weak violet
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never used lewis

dense bone
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lewis is just dumb

solid hinge
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see the pic

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literally called blood tu

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tub

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96 is overkill though

weak violet
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Links not working

solid hinge
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The Blood Tub

dense bone
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yea i didnt go extended mag for lewis

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no reason

jagged vector
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That’s the skin name

solid hinge
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God that barrel is so ugly

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idc

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it's called blood tub

weak violet
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Bro

solid hinge
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A default 42 mag is really nice

weak violet
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Just call it lewis

solid hinge
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i have the skin

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And the Lewis has a pretty 3x scope

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same skin

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I think the bren had a chevron one

dense bone
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lewis and reflex for me

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err nydar?

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always forget which is which

weak violet
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Fg42 and reflex

solid hinge
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I had AA on it for ages and then I tried 3x for a laugh but it was actually laser accurate

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bran gun in cod ww2 was hilarious

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literally fired at like 200 rpm

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So like.. no point taking it off now

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no matter how bad the historical inaccuracy is in this game

midnight nimbus
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yeah it was like 300 something RPM and a 2 shot kill

solid hinge
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it'll never match cod ww2

midnight nimbus
#

CoD WW2 Bren was chunky af

solid hinge
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700 rpm ppsh 41

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300rpm 2 shot kill?

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1000 rpm mp28

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700 rpm mg42

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😨

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best part of it all

#

That's horrifying!

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yea that game was just

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something

dense bone
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to think i do work with a 200 rof model 8

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id love 300 rof 2 shots

solid hinge
#

well

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cod has a faster ttk

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so it's in line there

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and there's no recoil

dense bone
#

isnt blops 4 ttk pretty high?

midnight nimbus
#

about on par with BF1

solid hinge
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ye blops 4 is an exception

midnight nimbus
#

ish

solid hinge
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only cod game with 150 health

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you shouldve seen cod4 and mw2

weak violet
#

Also if i may ask, why is your name black atom

midnight nimbus
#

actually BO4 ARs have similar TTK to BF ones

solid hinge
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700 rpm 2 shot full auto weapons

midnight nimbus
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very similar damage models

solid hinge
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because

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i liked playing black adam in injustice 2

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adam can be pronounced atom

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too bad bo4 cant be played by non white ppl

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literally 0 servers in bo3

weak violet
#

?

solid hinge
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the servers outside of the west are completely horrible

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i live in the middle east

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cant find 1 game in bo3

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literally not even tdm

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this is why you dont region lock matchmaking and put in a server browser instead

pearl siren
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thats bc bo3 is kinda dead

solid hinge
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i got it when it was free

midnight nimbus
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mfw i can find BO2 games perfectly

solid hinge
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hence a pop rise

midnight nimbus
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😩

solid hinge
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yeah i could play bo2 just fine

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cant play bo3 at all

midnight nimbus
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on PC

solid hinge
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says a lot

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they tried too hard with the mm strictness

solid hinge
#

Who here is looking forward to firestorm

jagged vector
#

I most certainly am

solid hinge
#

Yep me too

long topaz
shrewd grove
jagged vector
#

Maybe they’ll finally update the companion app for firestorm

solid hinge
#

🔥🌧

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Us: dicepls tell us more about firestorm!
EA: shh it’s a secret

jagged vector
#

Eh, we’ll hear more about it sooner than later

dense bone
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im stoked for firestorm

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that leaked trailer looks super good

solid hinge
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I think it’s coming March 21st because that is when the ‘trial by fire’ tides of war chapter is coming

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But I’m not sure

tight tusk
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We’ll get it **soon™ **

long topaz
#

It's a secret shhh

charred heron
amber notch
#

That’s your fault buddy

shrewd grove
solid hinge
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Oh no

amber notch
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@solid hinge since I know you are there contact @strange osprey

scenic beacon
#

oof

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Someone dun goofed

shrewd grove
#

Ever since I started trying to gold the STEN I think I've started to really like it

scenic beacon
#

I almost never see anyone touch that gun anymore tbh

dense bone
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did dabmin just @ modmail?!

shrewd grove
#

I've sniped MMGs and snipers with it from like 50-80 metres

scenic beacon
#

Its dead accurate ADS, it feels a lot like the mp40

shrewd grove
#

Ye

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It feels like it has less drop-off damage than the MP40

solid hinge
#

I think they're the same

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You might be landing more shots though

shrewd grove
#

Probably

solid hinge
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kht said before something like the sten is slightly statistically worse than the mp40 but is easier to control

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or something

shrewd grove
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The STEN has also been the first time I've enjoyed the Lattey sights

solid hinge
#

I might have remembered that entirely wrong

shrewd grove
#

Does the MP40 have Lattey sights?

solid hinge
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I think they all do

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sten is the cei rigotti of bfv

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bad when a good player uses it

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op when a bad player uses it

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idgi

shrewd grove
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lol

solid hinge
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have u went up against a lvl 0 cei rigotti?

shrewd grove
#

Suomi is just annihilator Hellriegel baby mode

solid hinge
#

fuckers would literally hit all 3 shots back to back with pristine accuracy

shrewd grove
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If MP40 has Lattey sights it may be a match made in heaven since they feel a little easier to control

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I don't remember the fire rate the MP40 and STEN have

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But I'd imagine it's similar

solid hinge
#

540 ish

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2000 if you're lvl0

shrewd grove
#

That's what I was thinking

solid hinge
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I think most medic weapons have lattey sights but I rarely use medic so I don’t know

midnight nimbus
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yes Sten is a bad MP40

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buuuuuut it's easier to use

shrewd grove
#

So just control wise it's different

solid hinge
#

I do better with the sten when I’m a pilot, does anybody here know if there is a difference between the pilot sten gun and the medic sten gun?

midnight nimbus
#

they're the same

solid hinge
#

Oh

scenic beacon
#

No difference whatsoever, same gun, same stats

solid hinge
#

Maybe I should use the medic more often then

shrewd grove
#

If you get used to your SMGs role you can be pretty effective

solid hinge
#

Because I’m looking forward to firestorm I’m trying to get good with all types of weapons because in a br game you never know what weapons you are going to get

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Anybody else got the same idea?

mild prairie
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oh yeah been doing just that for weeks now

solid hinge
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The lattey sights have decreased zoom so they shoukd be easier to control

shrewd grove
#

Ye

solid hinge
#

They're kind of cute

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Im a medic all the way!

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What r u those tanks with the huge barrel

#

Yuh!

dense bone
#

sturmtiger?

solid hinge
#

Meh

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Ya that how u unlock it or is it part of the reinforcements thing

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speaking of reinforcements

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how do you change them back?

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Oooo not sure

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because i noticed the arty kinda....took them out

shrewd grove
#

No it didnt

solid hinge
#

Not really sure about the reinforcements

shrewd grove
solid hinge
#

Ahhhhhh duh i know those 😂😂😂

#

Ain’t like cod where u can choose different scorestreaks

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Yeah!

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no scorestreaks here

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instead we have vehiclez

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ah shit

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sorry

#

this is bfv, no vehicles here

#

exactly

#

you do this to a tank and it's gone

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might as well not be in the game

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pretty much

#

not fun

#

i miss pushing

sonic rampart
#

Bc semis are op

solid hinge
#

rolling up with a a7v and capturing the sector after being in a stalemate for a whole battallion or two

#

ahhh

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fun times fun times

sonic rampart
#

Conquest in bf5 is bc most of the times

#

You capture an empty point

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While the enemy captures your empty point

solid hinge
#

or a point with some level 5 prone somewhere

sonic rampart
#

Except for devestation

solid hinge
#

the amount of scared low levels

sonic rampart
#

And Rotterdam

solid hinge
#

is so bothering

#

cant blame them

#

the game is pretty intimidating

sonic rampart
#

Actually I take back my words

charred heron
#

Spider senses are tingling, they targeted me with a V1

#

And waste it

solid hinge
#

Lmao

#

I usually only play grand operation

sonic rampart
#

+5 fortification

solid hinge
#

Same

#

Gain more points that way

amber notch
solid hinge
shrewd grove
icy sluice
#

I beat a TIGER I in a tank battle with a Valentine by driving under him then lost connection to the server

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In DEVASTATION

solid hinge
#

That was the result of that tank crushing you out of existence

dense bone
#

@solid hinge probably a #general conversation, that im interested in having

charred heron
#

@icy sluice WoT tactics 101

long topaz
#

Can someone teach me how 2 pilot

solid hinge
#

pick mosquito

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new mosquito

dense bone
#

i second snutten

solid hinge
#

grats now just 1 shot everything

long topaz
#

I got a ecksbacks controller

#

and it sure is

solid hinge
#

sexbox is for noob

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ps4 controller makes you pro

long topaz
#

but my ps1 controller doesn't work on pc

charred heron
#

Try piloting with a steering wheel

solid hinge
#

it works bro just connect it to the motherboard

#

lmfaoooo

#

those overpriced steering wheel things

long topaz
#

Actually, i think i have a joystick somewhere

solid hinge
#

if you dont run killstreaks in this game while using a steering wheel wyd

wary mason
#

fly with the keyboard and mouse

#

😤

long topaz
#

I can

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But helicopters, not planes

#

:^)

#

tfw trackball mouse needed

solid hinge
#

A SONG FORE EA

Old Mac battle had a field
EA EA O

And on that field he had a firestorm
EA EA O

With a dice pls here and a dice pls there, here an update there an update everywhere a fun game

Old Mac battle had a field
EA EA O

shrewd grove
#

Helicopters are fun to fly on keyboard

amber notch
long topaz
#

This'll do it

wary mason
#

o god

amber notch
#

yuck

#

fuck those mice

solid hinge
#

How can anybody use that?

strong parrot
#

try and play an RTS then youll see the light

long topaz
amber notch
#

Only real gamers use those mice

midnight nimbus
#

trackball is based for everything but fps

#

unless you're metalslug, then use a trackball with fps

solid hinge
#

Has this glitch happened to anybody else here?

long topaz
#

yep

solid hinge
#

They patched it though didn’t they

#

Epilepsy warning to all BFV players

wary mason
#

holy epilepsy

solid hinge
#

Ahhhhhh! My eyes!!!!

forest eagle
#

Oh yeah. It’s happened to me a few times on pc. You spawn normally, though it’s a bug that should be taken seriously

#

Especially for those with epilepsy

solid hinge
#

Yeah

#

That’s what I thought

forest eagle
#

though I think if you have epilepsy, you really shouldn’t be playing battlefield 😂

solid hinge
#

It has already been fixed I think

#

Sometimes battlefield has the best glitches

#

Some of them are hilarious

strong parrot
#

it took 3 weeks to fix 👌

forest eagle
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The launch across the map with dirt bikes glitch

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And explosives

solid hinge
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Have you seen the glitch with the revive animation where the person who was just revived is floating around in the T pose with their gun sticking out of their neck?

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So weird

long topaz
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Seems like the joysticc wins over the controller

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But piloting is still bonked

teal wyvern
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Battlefield v has too many issues

shrewd grove
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Damn

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I wouldn't have guessed

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You've opened my eyes to be honest

long topaz
amber notch
solid hinge
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🔥🌧

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That’s your daily riddle folks

dense bone
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firestorm....

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what do i get?

solid hinge
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A cookie

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Chocolate chip or raisin and mud?

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You pick

dense bone
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raisin and mud

solid hinge
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Ok

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When would you like it delivered?

dense bone
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now

solid hinge
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Oh

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Ok it’s on its way now

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You better have money, these cookies ain’t cheap

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It’s nearly burnt now, not long before it arrives!

sonic rampart
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Lol

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When something looks cheap but the shipping scams you LUL

solid hinge
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Do you think my new avatar is better?

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I just photoshopped it a second ago

pearl siren
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Hey gamers

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Suomi smg masterrace

solid hinge
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Hey gamers..

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I don’t know

icy sluice
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Attention, all epic fortnite gamers

wind pendant
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hum, how large were the berlin flaktowers?

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would it be viable to have an infantry only map inside one?

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looks like star wars from that angle lol

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skycity and all

long topaz
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How do planes work, holy shit

stoic kernel
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RSP or release all map modes all the time please.