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jolly quartz
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Trying to play breakthrough/ops/airborne

bronze grotto
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assaults with smokes mmmm

jolly quartz
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Needs that smoke sometimes just to push up

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Rotterdam is a great example of that

solid hinge
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I think there is a bug w smoke, sometimes for someone it doesnt appear the smoke

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Stand at ammo box and throw/launch smoke grenades for 20 minutes straight

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yea smoke also works 2 ways

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I got killed to many times from ppl who couldnt see me

jolly quartz
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I do hate the bug at the moment that makes the smoke GL not pop smoke

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Died countless times cos of that

jagged vector
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It happens a lot in the swamps of twisted steel

solid hinge
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@jolly quartz it doesnt spawn just for u

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chances are your enemies are not retarded and will just unleash a shitstorm of ordinance on that area

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For everyone else it does

jolly quartz
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Sometimes you can see moment in smoke and just spray it

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Sometimes a player remembers where the dudes body was so they pump it

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Others are just lucky shots

solid hinge
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I've gotten that glitch

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tbh which is why if you have the smoke launcher you should ride or die with that bitch

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With the launcher and the nades

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Really frustrating

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sense a push by your team?

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well throw your smokes so you can concealment

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Nade launcher sometimes doesn’t detonate

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@jolly quartz if u ever played w friend and a mic and they say there is smoke and u dont see it

jolly quartz
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I think part of it is denotation timer

solid hinge
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I think is not just a lucky shoot

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how close are you

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@solid hinge

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because now it matters

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Na I've confirmed it with friends

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for some reason

jolly quartz
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Like you need to have it fly a certain distance before it will activate

solid hinge
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Nono sometimes it doesnt spawn for someone

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Idk I’ve just noticed a few times

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Today I was like 5 feet

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It's basically a 40mm grenade then

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Lol

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MINIMAL

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10 yard arming trigger

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ARMING

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DISTANCE

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I use void with friend while playing

jolly quartz
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That would be okay

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If it wasn't a thing since beta

solid hinge
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its for your own safety

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and your squad

jolly quartz
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Could instantly denotate the smoke GL at your own feet

solid hinge
jolly quartz
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point towards enemy

solid hinge
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Or your CO if he revoked weekend passes

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assholes

jolly quartz
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What do you mean if

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Lol

solid hinge
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....

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when

prime bear
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I played a few round of BF4, man what a great game that still is!

solid hinge
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Ew

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anyway

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also if you have MMGs for the love of god....

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short bursts

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I'm going to get a hat that says bf4 worst bf ever and on the back it's going to say never forget

jagged vector
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👏short👏bursts👏

solid hinge
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Mag dump

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Harvest more meat per bullet

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Elongated bursts

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Donny approves

unique aspen
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Bf4 is pretty good imo

solid hinge
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It's a long story that I've told a million times over for me

unique aspen
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Yeah lol

solid hinge
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It was just a disappointment for me

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BF4 was just....

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good

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it was solid

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Not saying it was a bad game overall but it was just a very bad bf game to me

unique aspen
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I have over 500 hrs on bf4, its so good people got like 5k hrs

solid hinge
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Such bad balance

unique aspen
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Did you play in the first few months?

solid hinge
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Yep

unique aspen
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No wonder

solid hinge
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I had it day one lol

unique aspen
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Lol

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They fixxed everything

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Great game now

solid hinge
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Not everything lol

unique aspen
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I recommend for you to pick it back up

solid hinge
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And the rebalance was just terrible to me

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I have played throughout its life cycle just not consistently

unique aspen
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Yeah

solid hinge
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I have at least 800 in it

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But that's nothing

unique aspen
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Lol still more than me

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I can never drop my battelfied titles

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Battlefield has such good mechnaics i can work my way with

compact oxide
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Tbh I've all but dropped bfv rn

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But BF1 was great even with its massive flaws

solid hinge
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I have 1347 hours in bf1

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Ehh bf1 was their most solid title

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Since bf3

unique aspen
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Eh

solid hinge
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They just made some huge mistakes

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Like rsp

unique aspen
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I can kinda agree

solid hinge
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And hardcore

unique aspen
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Yeah the rsp was a big meh

solid hinge
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And glitches too

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Omg the vaulting glitch use to make me want to punch a hole in my tv

unique aspen
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Lol

solid hinge
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well this is neat

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Oh no I'm getting shot at let me hop over this fence and run

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lays down on the floor

stoic breach
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Yeah

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That was real shit

solid hinge
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did they not add the new movement patch and bipod fix for consoles?

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yet

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For what bfv?

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yes

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I think they did

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oh

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The bipod is still shit

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still needs improvement imo then

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yeah

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The bipods in bf1 were so good

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yea

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Idk why they changed that

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exactly

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What's the most popular gamemode in BFV on PC?

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prob conquest

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I'm pretty new and want to jump into the action quick 😄

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And the whole no ads thing is dumb, mmgs already have insane recoil and spread off the bipod

amber notch
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@solid hinge Conquest

solid hinge
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yeah

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Thanks guys!

bronze grotto
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mmgs need to be able to bipod on the user's palm

solid hinge
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yes

amber notch
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conquest is the staple of battlefield gamemodes

solid hinge
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Why should I be able to tap fire kill a sniper with an smg from across the map but I can't ads kill someone more than 20 meters away with a mmg

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its stupid

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Realism attached to one class

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Dice logic

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and was the m1987 always shit?

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In this game most shotguns are trash

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yeah

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god

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I swear to god the netcode doesn't help one bit either

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I've walked up to people with the m30 and unloaded both barrels into someone's gut for 60 damage

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yeah

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the m1987 is the worst i think

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I'd rather use that than the m30

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it takes all 5 bullets to kill someone at point blank

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At least when the hit reg is trash I have more than two shotgun shells

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buckshot is broke atm

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they broke it two patches ago and haven't fixed it

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yep

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according to all two people who use shotguns

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thats battlefield

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The one shotgun you first unlock with Support is pretty alright it seems to me. I've gotten several kills with it.

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Yeah I was going to say, I almost had an aneurism trying to get the mint for the m30

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The browning auto 5

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i dont get the balancing in bf5 rn

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I like it too

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It was ass in bf1 though

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it's not balancing so much as a tower

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Na the balancing is bad

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what im saying is that the assault class is way better than any other class rn

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Assault completely dominates the field

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Again

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and it seems nobody is talking about the turner smle

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Support is only good because if the ke7 and Bren

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Fuck the turner it's all about the 1916

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the turner with the extended clip is really good tho

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2 shot kill capability with a 26 round detachable box mag lol

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I like it with the detachable mag

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Faster

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20 round takes so long to load

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yeah

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but the turner spam fire kills so quick at close to long range

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its ridiculous

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The gewehr 43 is better

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or maybe its just my kind of gun

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I mean every gun in the assault class is good

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Even the ribeye

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yea

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1916 is only a two shot if you get a headshot

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tru

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Yeah and I land a lot of headshots

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agm is a two shot headshot at any range with a 450 fire rate

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That's also why I said capability

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effectively better than bolt actions

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Poor Scout man

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Or recon

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Only saving grace is the kar98 and the krag

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The slrs get outplayed by assault so easy

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not only can assault lay down far more fire than the bolt actions can, they have a higher muzzle velocity too

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Yep

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That's the dumbest part

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the lee enfield is really satisfying with iron sights tho

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Why wouldn't it be the same if most of the rifles use the same round lol

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bolts literally only have the one shot headshot going for them in a game where 70% of people play assault with the spec that boosts your ads movement speed

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The smle is like the only good ptfo bolt action

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yeah

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It rechambers quick

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the main advantage the bolts have is the bayonet

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I mean I run everything in cqc

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who uses the bayonet in bf5

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But the smle is the only two tap rifle

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bolt action mains

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Nah

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i main blot actions and i dont use a bayonet

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The K98 can 2 tap

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Everything else you'll get smoked by the time you rechamber

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bipod is absolutely not worth it on bolts

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tru

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At least if your opponent isn't braindead

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for krag and kar the bayonet is unironically always the best choice

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hm

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Yeah

primal sage
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I am never gonna stop complaining about the fighters until Dice DOES SOMETHING about how BROKEN they are.

solid hinge
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I don't ever charge so I just go with the bipod

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well i guess i havent been playing too much bf5 lately

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Bipod is no good on ajar

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KAR

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maybe Krag if you actually want to lol

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i guess there's an argument for zeroing distance on the other three, but I'd still say bayonet

primal sage
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Speaking of which...DICE. FIX YOUR SHITTY FUCKING PLANES.

solid hinge
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K98 doesn’t even need zeroing

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@primal sage planes are fine

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I haven't proned as recon in like.. the last 400 kills

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Na I don't need no zeroing distance lol

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Get good

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And just learn drop for snipers

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Yep

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I prone for challenges lmao

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I want mint

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I’m just to lazy

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Guns are so accurate when you move that proning is unnecessary for bolts

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And by extension bipod

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Only time I've ever used zeroing is sniping spawn to spawn on operation firestorm lol

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Lol

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That’s me with the SR338

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Forreal

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Lmao

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so when is dice gonna drop some stuff for us deluxe edtion owners?

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Bayonet on the other hand actually gets kills

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I actually zero in BF4

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Cause I can determine distance by just looking now lol

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Your weekly red iron sight ain't enough?

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Only time I did it and that's because how high I have to aim you can't see anyone in the scope lol

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I find it helpful in HC to zero

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First shot can expose you easily

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Unless the opponent is tunneling

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Those 1,023 meter headshots

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Hey

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My highest headshot distance

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1438 M

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nice

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Op firestorm lol

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The crazy thing is I use to land the first round a lot lol

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It’s probably higher but I’ve not checked in a long time. That was the number from a long time ago

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I use to surprise the shit out of myself

primal sage
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@solid hinge We are going to fucking butt heads over everything. Planes are broken. Shitfire can destroy literally all tanks, planes, and infantry with a single set up. It can't be countered because it flies too fast for AA or MG fire to counter, and it'll destroy literally anything because getting behind it is impossible.

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Why even use a bomber when you can just use a Shitfire VB and wipe out literally everything.

solid hinge
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I wreck spits

primal sage
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With what?

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Your imagination?

solid hinge
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With anything

primal sage
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I don't believe you.

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Stop lying.

solid hinge
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I've destroyed them with aa

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throwing knives your spitfire at 600 metres
Get good

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Blown them out of the sky with tank shells

primal sage
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Right. The idiots you mean?

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Not the guys who are literally going 50 in 0?

solid hinge
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Even seen a friend land a panserfaust on a good 3 lol

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It's hard to deal with a good one

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Oh no those guys I'll just jump in the 109 g2 and eat their assholes alive

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good taste with the g2

primal sage
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If you can shoot down a Shitfire with a Panzerfaust or AA, then you're just talking about idiot pilots.

solid hinge
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Lol no just impossible shots

primal sage
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I mean the guys who are aces. Who immediately fly outside of AA range as soon as they take one hit and never fly low.

solid hinge
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But he shoots at them a lot lol

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aa is generally used for supporting your fighters in the air

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team effort

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I mean sometimes you fly low to get away from the aa

primal sage
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And they can do that so EASILY.

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It's so EASY to dodge AA.

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Like stupidly easy.

solid hinge
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The problem is the quick repair

primal sage
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You take one hit and then you can be halfway across the map in a second.

solid hinge
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But the fighters health bar is easy

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AA is most effectively used against infantry tbh

primal sage
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No it's not.

solid hinge
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The bombers take forever

primal sage
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The healthbar is about the same as a bomber as far as I can see.

solid hinge
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bombers go down in seconds

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fighters are almost always harder to take out

primal sage
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Fighters are broken. End statement. Don't @ me.

solid hinge
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20mm cannons absolutely shit on bombers

primal sage
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If I can even UNLOCK those.

solid hinge
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Lol idk I've had some games where I've shot the same bomber with an aa for like 5 minutes straight because he'd just go spawn to spawn on narvik with the quick repair

primal sage
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But every time I get in air I just get shut down by a single x8 MG Shitfire.

solid hinge
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oh with AA you're boned

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Maybe they should just nerf planes

primal sage
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x8 doesn't even take skill.

solid hinge
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Lol

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Major

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aa is generally shit at killing anything by itself

primal sage
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You just aim and click and you WIN.

solid hinge
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They don’t destroy tanks

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Man the spit va is a monster

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Ground play only HaHAA

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Your bad if they do

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I don't think 8x guns is fun

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Va is only good at anti air

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6 may be

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And infantry if you can aim

primal sage
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No.

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VA has ROCKETS.

solid hinge
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It gets two 250kg bombs too

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Yeah lol

primal sage
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God damn it Min.

solid hinge
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Who gets that on console

primal sage
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Are you just TRYING to piss me off?

solid hinge
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95% of the time they don’t

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Lo

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I’ve shot them down with the Stuka

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B-1

primal sage
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Everything you say is literally just something to piss me off.

solid hinge
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Not B-2

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No?

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wait even the 8 x .303 can get rockets?

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It’s called get good

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Seriously

primal sage
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It's called fucking blocked.

solid hinge
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Wdym?

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Lol

primal sage
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Yes.

solid hinge
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what's the VAs spec tree

primal sage
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The VB.

solid hinge
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He can’t even have a discussion

primal sage
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The x8 MG.

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It can get ROCKETS.

solid hinge
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VB is the far better option

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the VB doesn't have 8x

violet finch
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What's going on?

solid hinge
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I use the va with the 6 303

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@solid hinge can you like

primal sage
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What do you mean the VB doesn't get x8?

solid hinge
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Do my talking for me

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And 250 kg

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VA has 8x

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VB doesn’t get 8x idiot

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VB gets 20mms

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Lmao

violet finch
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Wait what

solid hinge
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Yeah

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8x

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Lol

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VB is the skill

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See this guy

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Blocks me

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Shit chews through everything

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And doesn’t even want to finish it

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That’s how dumb people can be

primal sage
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8x takes NO skill.

solid hinge
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I can’t even tell him he was wrong

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I personally prefer the left side VB with agility upgrade

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Lmao

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Salt levels need to decrease please

primal sage
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You just point and CLICK and you WIN.

solid hinge
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@solid hinge I agree 100%

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8x VA is a pain in the ass though

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Sodium content is too high

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I mean it doesn't matter if I use the va or vb I'm still wrecking

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VB is the more all rounder

primal sage
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Fighters need to be nerfed HARD.

solid hinge
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No they don’t

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With the vb I get 50 cal mgs and regular 303s

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VB can take out bombers real good with the 20mm

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What’s next? Need Bleinheim

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Lmao

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Nerf Bleinheim

primal sage
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In fact, just remove the Shitfire VA.

solid hinge
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Can you say I don't stop firing lol

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I don't like the 50 cal on the VB

primal sage
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It shouldn't be in the game, it's game breaking.

solid hinge
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50 cal VB

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Meh

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Doesn't lead into the left spec tree

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Remove aircraft

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I'm not a fan of the Hispano

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Hispano isn’t even that good imo

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The 20mm blow off fighter wings in one hit

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And shred bombers

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really?

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Yeah the 50 cal wrecks too lol

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I always get htmarkers

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If you get one hit on a fighter you can out turn them

primal sage
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Yeah but at least they take SKILL to AIM with their low fire rate.

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The 8x is literally idiot proof.

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Even a fucking no skill loser could beat anyone with 8x mgs.

solid hinge
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It's not really hard to lead lol

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I prefer the 50cal over the hispano

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the only downside of the 8x is how fast it runs out of ammo

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God can this guy calm down

primal sage
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GOOD.

solid hinge
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Seriously

primal sage
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In fact it should run out of ammo even faster.

solid hinge
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which isn't a problem when you kill everything in front of you in under a second

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Someone tell him to stop being pissy

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The 8x are just amazing for 2 or 3 on 1s

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that aren’t bombers

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Anyone with a skilled bomber with a gunner can kill yah

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Because I make quick passes at high speed and just shred

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they even shred bombers which isn't fair

primal sage
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Only if they have upgrade gunner MG.

solid hinge
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Not if the bomber has a good gunner

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sheer damage output is brutal

primal sage
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Otherwise you're just cannon fodder.

solid hinge
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Welp

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the Ju can get upgraded gunners but it also suffers from gunner positions that have small cones of fire

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I can’t give my opinions and I’m an actual plane main

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fly at angles

primal sage
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No wonder I don't like you.

solid hinge
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You can come at it from pretty much anywhere that isn't directly behind it and get hits

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Idk I don't think they're that much of a problem, I get killed by bombers more than I do fighters on the ground

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The rockets on fighters can do some big damage

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they're also a lot easier to aim than bombs

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He blocked me?

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Or was he banter

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Lmao

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I’ve been killed 1 time by a fighter on the ground

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Yeah I have to be in single digits too

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I’ve done the killing to infantry

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I do it a lot lol

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Yeah me too

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Tbh bombers are more annoying

primal sage
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You know I can still click to view blocked messages right? Have you never blocked someone on Discord before? And before you jump to conclusions. No. I've not been reading every single message you type.

solid hinge
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People don't usually spec fighters for rockets

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But I don't get killed often

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Heavy bomber pilots ruin the game

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Oh so now he responds

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But if you know what you're doing with them you can consistently get kills

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And yeah people don’t spec fighters for rockets

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Most people don’t

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But honestly as long as planes are not as cancerous as BF1 im fine

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I don’t cause Mosquito and Stuka are my bombers

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Or AT

primal sage
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They're just as cancerous as BF1.

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In fact it was EASIER to be a fighter in BF1.

solid hinge
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lol no way

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No

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It wasn’t lol

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Ground support attack plane

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Stop your rose tinted glasses

primal sage
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I didn't feel like I got killed unfairly just because some idiot had an impossible to counter weapon.

solid hinge
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It’s sad seeing you overreact again

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I've got the main bombers as anti infantry, the heavy fighter/dive bomber as anti tank and the fighters as anti air

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pure roles

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The ac130 muramets lol

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Bro

primal sage
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Congrats Ayla. You actually earned my respect, for what very little that actually counts for.

solid hinge
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@solid hinge I have my Stuka as both AT and infantry. AA is hard since you need a gunner Incase a flank.

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I've had like 70+ killstreaks with the attack plane lol

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Why don’t we just talk about maps without planes

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Nah

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Better maps

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Nah

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I was unkillable with that shit

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Some dudes triggered

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So we gotta keep going

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Except Aerodrome

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Never aerodrome

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Broken

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😊

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Aerodrome sucks

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I ducking hate that map

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Planes in bfv maneuver like shit anyway

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@solid hinge do you plane skit

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And planes are horrible in BFV

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I get weight but the way they made it feels so clunky

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@solid hinge the Ju has far more bombs than either stuka can have, it's a lot better at mass infantry destruction

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How do paper planes in ww1 handle better

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Makes no sense

icy sluice
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lol

primal sage
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Aerodrome is LEAGUES better than fucking HAMADA.

solid hinge
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I still run both lol

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Plane skit?

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1000kg Bomba for tanks

icy sluice
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I like all maps tbh

primal sage
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I used to hate Fjell.

solid hinge
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And the 50kg for small infantry

primal sage
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But it's grown on me a little.

solid hinge
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Plus I bomb buildings

icy sluice
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Yeah, me too initially but then I got gud at fjell

solid hinge
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I just don't like narvik and devastation

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Devastation is corner camper heaven

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1000kg is more like.. concentrated area destruction than any specific anti-something

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I like Panzerstorm

icy sluice
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Fjell can definitely be a good skill-based map

solid hinge
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I’ve learned how to aim the 1000kg lol

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like if you drop a 1000kg whatever is in that radius is kaput

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Like and make it nearly obliterate crap

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Panzerstorm was okay until AT mines were dropped into the spawns

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the b-2 is too strong

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B-2 is meh

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at least the b-1 has to recharge it's bomb

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I hate the cannons

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Feels like meh

icy sluice
solid hinge
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I’d rather make it a scouting plane

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Easy points

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the cannons can kill any building, any vehicle, any plane

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Still

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I’d rather just use it as spotting since I can use the B-1 for that

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I like the cannons for anti bomber role

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They also reload a lot faster than the bomb

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that bayonet

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weaving through the bullets

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I’d rather just the G-2 for that lol

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Or G-6

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Or stock Stuka with a gunner to shoot below

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Since theirs no bottom gunner lmao

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@primal sage he leave?

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It’d be fucking great if we could get some new maps

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They're good at it, but I know if I'm playing pure anti-bomber I'd rather take the Mosquito or b-2

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Mosquito is my pseudo bomber

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Cause blenheim needs buff

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Usually if it's a breakthrough map with only two planes or something

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Blenheim is so fucking bad

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Which one lol

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I don't understand it's niche

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Both

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It’s a mobile spawned

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It’s a infinite spawn beacon

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Basically fly in circles at high altitude

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I've heard that's been broken since launch

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I've never ever seen one

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I would love it if it actually worked

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There should be a bottom exit hatch on tanks

primal sage
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I'm still here.

solid hinge
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So when you spawn in and realize your driver is retarded

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You can get out without getting fucked

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Just pop out of the hatch the staghound poops supplies from

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Sure

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Tbh I just hate 90% of tankers

primal sage
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How do you get out from under a Panzer 38T?

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Isn't it lowriding?

solid hinge
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Through the exhaust

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Idk dude I just hate having stupid drivers

primal sage
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I'm not a stupid driver. Climb on in.

solid hinge
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Launches you straight up into the air

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Parachutes

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Hey I’m a good tanker to

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Tiger Main that knows what he’s doing lol

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I can actually play aggressive with infantry to

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So that’s great

primal sage
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Claims to be a tanker.
Only uses Tiger.

solid hinge
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s-mines are wonderful sometimes

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Pft all the other tanks are shit lad

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Valentine is no fun

primal sage
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Real tanker uses EVERYTHING at his disposal.

solid hinge
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Staghound is my fav

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Nice

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Except it’s not as good now

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im a PZ 38 guy

primal sage
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Staghound and Panzer 38 are IMPRESSIVE Anti-Infantry.

solid hinge
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until something better

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Make tiger do everything easy

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P38 is really good too

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like uh

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Luchs

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It’s not hard

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For me it’s not lol

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DICE ADD THE FUCKING LUCHS

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DICE ADD CRUSADER TANN

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lol

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Make the Valentine AA the Crusader AA

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I wish they didn’t nerf the 20 mm autocannob

primal sage
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I will admit the Panzer IV and the Valentine have difficult playstyles.

solid hinge
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Pft they don’t

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Lol

primal sage
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Well they can.

solid hinge
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You need the ride specialization in the right situation and play around those

primal sage
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The Anti-Tank with hardly any Anti-Infantry style.

solid hinge
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AT with no AI?

primal sage
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Well mostly no AI.

solid hinge
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mostly

primal sage
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Like instead of S-Bombs, taking AP Rounds on the Panzer IV.

solid hinge
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is a good tanker
doesn’t know how to do both anti-infantry and anti-tank

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Lol

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It’s not difficult

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To do both

coarse thunder
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The coaxial exists

solid hinge
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you wont be as effective at either role though

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Just like the Stuka can be anti air if you know how to do it lol

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Staghound all around does the job

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Panzer can do a lot

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being able to make it work doesn't mean you wouldn't do better with something else

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Coaxial sure

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@solid hinge that’s where it’s called player usage

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If you can’t figure out how to do it both ways

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While knowing you maximize more in something else

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You focus on that

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However, doesn’t mean the other way isn’t possible to with the AT loadout

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Just play smarter and not dumb

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Like you can AT with the S-mines

coarse thunder
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The AT loadout is still good at anti infantry

solid hinge
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Hell the AP isn’t even the best round to use sometimes against tanks

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It glances a lot more

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They should increase the Staghound AP round capacity to like 120 or 180

primal sage
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I know but sometimes you can be more effective as anti-tank but at the cost of being less effective at anti-infantry.

solid hinge
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It's got considerably higher damage though

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It does if you get the hit off

primal sage
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Also AP can now shoot farther.

solid hinge
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90 is hardly enough to kill a tiger

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Since they buffed it at least

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And if field repair

primal sage
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It has WAY less drop.

solid hinge
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Ik

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It’s BF4 tungsten Ronda

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Rounds

coarse thunder
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I'd rather use s mines or snake launcher

solid hinge
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It isn’t rocket science to aim

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Any shell can do it

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It’s like a sniper

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drop is adjustable

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Valentine feels better with AP rounds than snake launcher to me

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Why wouldn’t you use it with that high reload speed

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Lmao

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Min-maxing the valentine for example

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AP with its reload speed is devastating

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Yeah

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Yet it still c an anti inf just as fine

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And it isn’t even the main AT tank

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I use to tank snipe with the howitzer light tank in bf1, you'll figure it out

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That’s the gun carrier or Churchill

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6 pounder, AP rounds, faster reload

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Valentine is meaty

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small splash radius though

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It's the best tank

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Auto loaded

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6pdr

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And acpr

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Game over

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Plus it's quick

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Indeed

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But the small splash is usable still

primal sage
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And for some reason the valentine's turret doesn't count as crit damage.

solid hinge
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get good

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Lmao

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I mean I'm usually making direct contact on running infantry

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Definitely useable, but noticeably smaller than other ones

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Indeed

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The scope is so smooth

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However, it can play any role better

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It’s like the STG44 of tanks

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It’s not good at either

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But it’s one of the best compared to others at either

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If you min-max it

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While still maintains usage on the other side

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Idk I destroy with every coaxial lol

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Shit is like cheating

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I mean if you purely focus on AT with a rank

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I don’t like the Valentine as much cuz it doesn’t have a front gunner position

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Your doing wrong

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The panzer 4 has a significant difference if you don't upgrade the gun

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Indeed it does

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I love when enemies turn like they're about to return fire on infantry and see me lol

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That’s where min-maxing comes in heavy play

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While the unupgraded Valentine gun is flat out shitter pretty much

coarse thunder
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You can just respecialize between rounds, just make sure there's time and you dashed to the tank spawn

solid hinge
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Panzer can either be more AI or AT

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But it can still do both well based upon your smarts and how you use what you got

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Smokes are fantastic

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Especially for cover in a tank fight

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Oh yeah

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Pop it and just swerve a bit

coarse thunder
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I'm trying to do that everytime now with the mainly infantry maps. I.e. the PzIV shortbarrel has shit velocity but great splash

solid hinge
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Push right up to it

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And fire and it can trick the enemy

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I'd say it loses out on AT damage to the valentines spec tree, but it's stubby gun has significantly larger splash than the Valentine

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Dynamite that shit

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The PZ with smokes?

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Good all rounder

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I mean if we continue on the min-maxing same goes for planes

coarse thunder
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The shortbarrels have much larger splash at the expense of less AT damage and range/velocity

solid hinge
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Pure AT pz compared to pure AT Valentine

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Panzer can win

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If your smart

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If not the Valentine all time

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  • you’re
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Small gun Valentine doesn't get the big splash boost the stubby pz4 gets

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You can win with anything if you're smart lol

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Except the aa tanks now

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Not against a Spitfire with 8x lol

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No damage to armor is dumb

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In the words of

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Mashable

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Small gun Valentine is like the only tank that doesn't have 112 splash damage as well

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Lmao

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Well we don’t need rapid reload 113

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Damage

amber notch
solid hinge
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Just pointing out it's almost always necessary to take the 6 pounder on it

stoic breach
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I'm liking the Ross more and more as I use it

solid hinge
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filthy 600m/s gun

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i spit in your general direction

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Lol

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my spit is also faster than your bullets

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I didn’t take 6 pounder

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For a long time

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Lmao

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The 41 rounds and reload speed are great

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And faster rof

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I steamrolled tigers with the 3 pounder

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It’s just movement and stuff and outdoing them in damage in areas

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Bust the tracks and then turret

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You used to be able to steamroll tigers with a 20mm

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Then just encircle them

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Indeed lol

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Tigers used to be jack shit

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Heavies were pretty godawful before the buff

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Ik

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I was a advocate for tank buff lol

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I'm happy they feel like proper tanks now

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It needed to happen

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Well the Balentine AS

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AA

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Needs buff

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Or at least not made of cardboard

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It can’t AA properly

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I hope you mean a buff to its AA

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Yeah I agree

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The 3 gun is shit

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I tried the triple barrel for pure AA but it was even WORSE

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I have to use it cause that’s my tree and I’m not level 5

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*4

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Which is like.. blegh

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So I’m stuck with it

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You poor bastard

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It looks like it can be good for harassment lol

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Like just dumping it at tanks as support

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It literally is worse at AA than the main gun

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Ik

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And anti infantry

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I thought it’d be good

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And anti tank

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It sounded good

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Like communism

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On paper it sounded good

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Yeah in the beta if you pulled away from the repair station with the tiger you're done lol

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That's cause they said it specialises in AA

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Indeed

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I want a pure AA tank

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They never mentioned how it DOESN'T

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Like the Whirl

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Lol

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I still did work though

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Whirl with flaming onions is best AA

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Fight me

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Agreed

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The German flak gun works if you aim really good lol

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Massive damage to planes and can track fighters

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Or wanna do anti tank to

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That shit is amazing for infantry lol

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Indeed

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But whirl is best

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Pew pew pew pew

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X4

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40mm Valentine is solid for infantry

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It is lol

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dead in two splash shots

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brutal

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That’s what I’ll probably do

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Just not upgrade

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Lmao

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I almost don't want to use it because it's so good

topaz prism
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Bf1 > Bf5

solid hinge
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But since the triple barrel is so shit

coarse thunder
#

Doesn't the Valentine AA have canister shot

solid hinge
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Triple barrel absolutely ruins your anti ground capabilities, it could at least shred planes

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Yeah

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No slow reloads like on the other tanks either

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It's got a meaty fire rate

coarse thunder
#

I never get around to using the AA tanks because I feel like shit whenever I use them against infantry

solid hinge
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Relatable

coarse thunder
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I haven't even touched the Valentine AA, have the Flakpanzer to lvl 1

solid hinge
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I try to just play AA with them

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The Valentine AA is pretty good vs bombers

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Sucks for fighters though

icy sluice
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I used the three gun on the valentine aa, and it's pretty good

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Maybe better than the Wirbelwind actually

coarse thunder
#

Maybe I'll feel extra uncharitable tomorrow and decide to use it on Rotterdam or something

solid hinge
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No WAY raptor

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It overheats in like 2 seconds

icy sluice
#

But it can get a lot of fucking damage

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I got like 50-60 damage on a bomber before overheating

solid hinge
#

Statistically it has a higher rof than the wirbel but it overheats so goddamn quickly

#

..You were getting that much damage?

#

I'm convinced there's something fucky with the flak rounds in this game

primal sage
#

Yeah they suck.

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They do fuck all.

solid hinge
#

I can unload an entire heat cycle into a plane flying in a straight line and hit every shot and half of them straight up don't register

icy sluice
#

Within like 2-3 seconds, 60 damage is pretty good

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The range is fucky

solid hinge
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And then when I miss with half of them I still get massive hitmarkers

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I've had fighters fly directly towards me that I've hit with every single shot and done 20 damage to

icy sluice
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Also, the parachute flares are basically just a better flare gun

coarse thunder
#

There was an AA buff then successive nerf that lowered the overall effectiveness of AA

icy sluice
#

10 flares, they go pretty far and for some reason you can aim directly up which... makes no sense but whatever

solid hinge
#

Last time I used triple barrel i did 18 damage in 1.5 overheats to a plane i hit with every shot

icy sluice
#

Yeah same but I think they got better after the AA buff

solid hinge
#

I ain't fond of how random it feels

#

guess that's why i use fighters more often

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So do I get 3x AA

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And farm on Arras lol

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Or nah lmao

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Cause I’m hearing mixed opinions

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Cause I’ll get it if it’s any good in some situations

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It’s better then nothing lol

coarse thunder
#

From what I've seen and read, just keep the regular barrel and use case rounds

#

Flaming onion rounds are a meme against tanks

#

Shoot them at the turret and the enemy can't see anything

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Good thing AA and 20mm Auto-Cannon no longer damages tanks

solid hinge
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I’m stuck with the right side lol

#

I’m level 2 AA on AA

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For brits

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So I gotta go through it lol

icy sluice
#

I think I like the parachute flares more than the case rounds, they're pretty effective and I think everyone sees them

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Because I spotted a man and saw like 4 people run onto his location

primal sage
#

@icy sluice I think you can aim straight up with flares because...you can aim straight up with AA? Why limit where you can aim just because of what you're shooting?

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Plus what if you feel in danger and wanna check your IMMEDIATE surroundings?

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To see if anyone is flanking?

solid hinge
#

I’d rather be able to have shootable flares

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And smokes

little fjord
#

The airplane flares are super good

solid hinge
#

In any direction lol

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Like a burst of 5 smokes

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To any direction

#

In a straight line lol

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And have them bounce

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Just to give infantry some more usage and some cover for the player l

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And by a burst of 5 I mean however many a smoke launcher drops

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parachute flares previously only spotted people for you, whoever is in your vehicle and your squadmates

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Really?

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i hope they buffed them to just be ordinary flares

#

That’s dumb lol

#

yeah it was shit

#

i like the airplane flares on the fighters

#

nice ground support you can pop while chasing enemy planes

#

the AAs can get smoke rounds

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small benefit to the 3x barrel

hybrid dock
#

smoke rounds still fire from one barrel

solid hinge
#

Indeed

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But do those only work for squads?

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If so I’ve been wasting my time popping them over blues

#

airplane flares work for everyon e

primal sage
#

They buffed flares for everyone.

#

I've seen people randomly appear like CRAZY on my map and in my sights.

#

Like huge groups of enemies just...marked.

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But.

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You can't see the radius of another team mate's flare.

#

Only your own.

stoic breach
#

Flares are great

#

Before buff they were useless

#

Well they were bugged but still

primal sage
#

They were kinda useless.

#

The Radius was fucking tiny.

#

Even when used correctly.

solid hinge
#

Yeah the small radius made it Not viable

#

Might as well use it as a fire gun lol

#

Yeah spotting scope was way better

#

And like wall hacks

#

I used spotting scope always before

#

Now it's always flare gun

#

Yeah me too

#

It's much easier for ptfo

icy sluice
#

I managed to finish a grand operations with 10k more points ahead of the second place player

#

because of PTFO Recon... still lost by a fucking landslide though

solid hinge
#

Flare bombardment can give some serious points

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Especially if you get defensive spot assists

icy sluice
#

I went like 87-20

solid hinge
#

@solid hinge Weapon expert, whats better the MG34 or the MG42?

icy sluice
#

And this was Rotterdam/Devastation

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That one all depends, usually I do better with the MG42

tacit sinew
#

Id say the mg42 is good

solid hinge
#

@solid hinge mg42 is prooobably more useful in more situations

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Massive fire rate with relative accuracy

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Mg34 can have laser accuracy but a real small fire rate for a gun that has to be bipodded

tacit sinew
#

But like a 50 bullets

solid hinge
#

That’s true I went 71-12 with the MG42 but never played with the MG34

tacit sinew
#

And you can customize it to give you 200 bullets

solid hinge
#

MG34 works well for like.. camping at distance

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It’s Hitler’s Buzzsaw 🤣

#

Mg42 is more of a close range thing

tacit sinew
#

Yeah

solid hinge
#

Thanks for the answer

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Gn everyone

#

Np!

tacit sinew
#

Yo could just spray and pray with the mg42 at close range

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Good night

little fjord
#

I wish I could have 2 mg 42s

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So I wouldn't have to keep changing the specs

#

Rn I keep it 1200 rpm and if I need more ammo capacity I just use the 34 or 1922 because I'm too lazy to respec over and over again

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And honestly of all the mmgs I can countersnipe with the mg42 the easiest

#

2x irons 1200rpm it can reach out pretty far

solid hinge
#

1922 works well with big ammo

little fjord
#

1922 is very effective

solid hinge
#

Not really necessary to big ammo the mg42 anymore

muted socket
#

i tried sniping for the first time in a long time and it was wonderful

compact oxide
#

Should snipe with the 1906 or ZH, that's playing of the gods

solid hinge
#

tfw both of them are better snipers then the bolts

compact oxide
solid hinge
#

The zh is a scrub gun

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It's too easy to use

muted socket
#

i was playing bf1

solid hinge
#

it's annoying how consistently I get outsniped by the ZH

muted socket
#

shot a dude off his horse

#

beautiful

midnight nimbus
#

being able to level up guns in coop >>>

#

wtf i love combined arms now

tight tusk
#

Thats the only reason i play it lol

#

Aside from that combined arms is shit imo

little fjord
#

If they just billed ca as part of the practice range people wouldn't be so critical of it

#

They keep shooting themselves in the foot

midnight nimbus
#

its great bc you don't have to use unupgraded garbage in MP

neat glacier
#

hi

pearl skiff
#

hello

rose pilot
cold trail
#

I prefer anything with accuracy.

#

I don't get into the middle of things deep enough with a tank to need to get the repair bits, and the launchers don't really seem to do much anyways.

icy sluice
#

In one grand ops match I got like 20 bayonet charge kills

#

Actually, in one round, half of my kills were bayonet charges

#

What I recommend for the Flakpanzer is Improved Turret Rotation, better zoom optics, the radar and then the flaming onion

amber notch
#

@rose pilot flaming

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go only for flaming

rose pilot
#

👍

amber notch
#

they do damage overtime

elder lantern
#

okay

amber notch
#

and with how the quad cannons work its pointless to run anything else

#

you do triple the damage overtime

elder lantern
#

so i just got BFV on newegg

#

where is the keycode?

amber notch
#

because apparently it counts as three flak panzers hitting the plane

#

thats why planes die instantly to flakpanzers atm

lunar lion
#

got this damn sniper but bruh FUCK mmg users

icy sluice
#

Didn't they fix it?

rose pilot
#

would rather have snipers instead of mmg proned players

lunar lion
#

this tbh

rose pilot
#

i really hope they will stop adding MMGs

lunar lion
#

if you prone all game with an mmg i hope you (something that violates the rules here)

#

people who prone all day make me salty af

#

trash players

rose pilot
#

i can't play like that. I'm very impatient

solid hinge
#

@rose pilot lots of people go left middle left middle on the flakpanzer

lunar lion
#

If we get RSP i am playing in servers that either have MMGs banned or the whole class all together if you cannot disable a certain weapon.

icy sluice
#

I run around with the MMGs.

elder lantern
#

yo

#

has anyone bought the game trough newegg?

jagged vector
#

MMGs are good

elder lantern
#

cause i cant find the key for the game anywhere

jagged vector
#

Or Newegg customer service

elder lantern
#

ah

#

ty

primal sage
#

Imagine if during Airborne, the attackers were forced to equip Paratrooper sets. Not like "Oh you don't have it, can't play." But like...it was equipped FOR them.

jagged vector
#

You’re welcome, good luck!

solid hinge
#

Right Mid Right Mid @rose pilot

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For Flakpanzer

rose pilot
#

👍

solid hinge
#

Sorry for late response

#

Scope plus rapid fire that can shred planes

#

And it works

primal sage
#

I love how in Grand Operations, after each day it says "Attacker Bonus".
Like there's more answers than just "Additional Respawn Points" or "No Bonus".

solid hinge
#

You can also go right mid left right @rose pilot if you want Air radar for more AA. But go right mid right left and have smoke to give you escape cover

#

Sorry for more late responses lmao

hybrid dock
#

i try not to go prone with my mmgs

#

i try to stand up with them and deploy bipod

little fjord
#

There are alot of places you can bipod kneeling

#

I avoid proning because it puts me at a disadvantage

#

Not become of some elitist stigma

solid hinge
#

I love going prone and on sandbags

#

I actually feel like I’m holding suppressive fire

#

and spotting spraying a lot of bullets somewhere, so I then shoot yah

azure lark
solid hinge
#

why can't I deploy mmgs on my own arm

midnight nimbus
#

thank god for combined arms

#

unupgraded MP28 is one of the worst things I've ever used

#

unupgraded MG42 is pretty garbage too

primal sage
#

Oh my god, I just noticed...

weak violet
#

How is the ross rifle

primal sage
#

...does the fucking Archer have a SNORKEL TUBE on the back?

weak violet
#

Have not unlocked it yet

primal sage
#

Like not mounted but ready to be mounted.