#battlefield-legacy-titles | Battlefield | Page 1241

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:02 PM

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My favorite game period

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:02 PM

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But I get what you mean

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:02 PM

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technical as in mechanics

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Bad netcode, for starters

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:02 PM

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@crimson jungle that makes no sense, considering bfv works at launch for most vs bf4 not working for month after launch...

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:03 PM

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BF4 is mechanically superior and more balanced

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and had much better networking than BF3

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:03 PM

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so obviously, they did learn

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:03 PM

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I just can't stand the feel of weapons in BF4

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:03 PM

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10Hz logic loop in BF3 lol

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:03 PM

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So TECHNICALLY, they learned from their mistakes

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:03 PM

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yeah BF4 guns are boring to use

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:03 PM

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yall dont get the arguement

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yeet

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@midnight nimbus is correct

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and @crimson jungle

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Didn't like some of the balancing, either. Thoroughly disliked the progression and unlock system, too

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Alrgiht

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Boogie is correct?

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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do we all think Hardline is a shit game?

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And I never found a map I really enjoyed, honestly

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Even though it is technically superior in all regards of DICE made Battlefields

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Never played hardline, so probably so lol

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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IT actuall worked at launch

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very minimal bugs

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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its up to individuals to decide what they think is allowable for problems, considering bf is one of the most technical games out there MP wise, i will let it slide with more problems AS LONG as the core gameplay is functional

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Had alot more customization then BFV

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Hardline is a mechanically superior BF4 with an infantry focus

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Hardline is technically superior to BFV and BF4

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More customisation does not automatically make it better

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@solid hinge It worked at launch

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nearly no bugs

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I'm not disputing that

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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it's probably the best BF for infantry

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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No game breaking ones

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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ran flawlessly at launch

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Indeed

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but we all gave it shit

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and we threw it under the bus

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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mechanically, the only knock you can make against BFH is terrible gun balance

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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I never played it

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Indeed

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but hey adjsuted the balance

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or tried to

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Lol

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I'll just throw my dollar in for Battlefield 2

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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it actually got worse after the rebalance

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Bf4 still my favorite

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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L85A2 in BFH was lol tier

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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BF2 is rose-tinted

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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0.9 SIPS

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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lol

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best gun was l85a2

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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to say bf should have less/equal bugs as something like mario is kind of a joke

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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in bfh

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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one is much harder to even get working

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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No?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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after your first shot, the BFH L85A2 immediately jumps to hipfire accuracy

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I replayed BF2 recently, it still holds up

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But god damn 1942 doesn't

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:06 PM

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and launch K10 was insane

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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That’s sad lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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I mean visceral did SP games and applied SP gun balance to a MP game

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Hardline wasn't rushed

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1942 doesn't even feel remotely like I remember it

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it actually did work good lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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when gun balance is one of the easiest things to do

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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mechanically, save the gun balance

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But other then that, it was solid

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Hardline is an excellent game

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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it's still fun now

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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if it launched without the BF in front of it, it would've been fine

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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So comparing BFV and BF4 to eachother is like

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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@crimson jungle are you saying bfv is unplayable?

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:07 PM

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apples and apples

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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@crimson jungle its rushed sure, its not broken, broken means it doesnt work, and it does work. broken is bf4's launch, which you keep dancing around.

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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if you wanna make a statement do Hardline to nay DICE Game

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Apples to Oranges

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I think the only thing BFV does better than BF4 is gun mechanics/balance

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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but you show the stark difference

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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bf4 didnt work at launch, bfv does

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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No

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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i dont see how you keep reversing that

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Bfv is definitely not unplayable

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Every patch theirs more bugs

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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BF1 has best balance, but most fun

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BFV launch wasn't great

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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bfv launch was not great

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at all

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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BF1 launch was at least very solid

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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bf1 was solid save gas nades

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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who said bfv launch was great?

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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infinite gas nades lol

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I'd say BFV is incomplete, not broken per se

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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No one

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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dont see anyone saying that...

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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launch in general wasnt good

crimson jungle Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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A broken bf4 was more fun than the current state of bfv @dense bone

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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objective

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I don't agree

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Objectively

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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but its fact it was actually broken

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I think the only thing BFV does truly well is gun mechanics, but that's enough to make it playable for me

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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BFV is shit

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save my love for WW2

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and how i support DICE

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I still back it all day

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but if we do comparisons

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its so far one of the worse

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I have friends who play BFV only to JU-88 because that's still fun at least

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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stuka is why I play

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and K98

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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hold up the point is, bf4 was unplayable at launch. Bfv was playable at least

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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i cant compare bf4 to bfv because bf4 was my first pc mp game, so i have rose tinted glasses for it

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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I've never managed to play BF4 for more than 20 minutes without feeling deep sadness

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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and i get a good amount of fun from coordinating with friends to stomp

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Man I love bf4 so much

soft storm Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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It doesn’t matter if it was playable because the gaming environment was different 6 years ago

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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It was my first bf game

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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My first was 1942

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my first was 1942

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lol

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Shit game. Love it

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BFV is a letdown of what was promised

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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i dont think people understand what im saying, at all

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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we were promised alot in the trailer and leading up to launch

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thats why it was shit

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Where's body dragging?

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@dense bone I agree with you more or less

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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body dragging is a dumb feature anyways

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Indeed

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but some people get butthurt on it

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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im not looking for people to agree or disagree, it just seems people have no idea what im saying

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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DICE forgot the first rule of software development

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Its a valid point for some

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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im only stating facts

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bf4 didnt work, bfv does

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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better to underpromise and overdeliver than vice versa

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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subjective facts

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@midnight nimbus is correct

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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DICE overpromised and underdelivered

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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so for people to rag on bfv for being "broken" while saying bf4 is their favorite is contradicting

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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indeed

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BF4 worked still

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we got what was promised

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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they didn't have to overpromise at all, promising very little would still catch a hype train bc it's a new AAA title

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of an established franchise

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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bf4 didnt work for month for a lot of people

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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That’s the whole point he’s trying to make.. he isn’t saying bfv is better than bf4. All he’s saying is that bf4 didn’t work at launch at all. Bfv did/does

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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I mean it still didnt lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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they could've released BF1 set in WW2 with current BFV gun mechanics and it would've been excellent

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with BF4-style tanks

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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lol @midnight nimbus is not wrong

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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holy shit

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is that the truth

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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they had a polished platform with an actual working UI

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BFV UI/UX is abysmal

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nothing was wrong with how it worked in previous games

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nothing was wrong with BF4 style vehicle balance, it was excellent

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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I went into BFV after christmas, with no expectations, really. I got it as a gift from a friend, so I never payed for it, either. So I guess my perspective is skewed, but I thoroughly enjoy BFV. But considering a lot of people who love BF4 don't seem to like BFV, and I really enjoy BFV and can't stand BF4, maybe there's something there, who knows.

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BFV is fun, I wont lie there

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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gun mechanics are the only big improvement with BFV, and even then, I question a lot of the implementations

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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but saying it launched better, nah

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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I thoroughly enjoy BFV with friends, because that's what it's built for

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Don't forget BF4 used battlelog originally

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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bfv launched better than bf4

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fact

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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needs to be a bit more BF1-esque in skill ceiling

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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the revive system and being able to swipe their guns when they are downed

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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@dense bone your so wrong

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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fun shit

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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So so wrong

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It sold like shit

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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^

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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it didn't launch as good

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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selling doesnt mean anything about its launch state

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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I don't think anyone can argue battlelog was a good UI

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this revive system is hot trash

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Battlelog worked lol

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the animations are one thing

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I could use emblems

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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you couldnt play the game

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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@solid hinge selling has absolutely nothing to do with launch quality

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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revive system is trash af

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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you can play bfv

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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It worked, but was it good?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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animation overload

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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the revive system is hella fun but trash

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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thats a better launch

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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the extremely specific angle you need to trigger it is horrible

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like horrible

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Also, sometimes it just didn't work

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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and it's an unnecessary level of risk for medic revives

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Especially for bf3

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bf4 system was perfect imo

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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its better than waiting for full revive in bf4 tho

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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the animations are awful for both revives, it's erratic and violent as shit

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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BF1 did it right

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just increase cooldown to stop medic trains

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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And it needed to reload assets completely every time you joined a server, because it didn't keep the game running in the background

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Ye breaking through cover and teleporting through walls for a revive aint fun in bfv

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that shit's cost me good killstreaks

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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It does

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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attrition is just an awful mechanic all around

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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It does have alot to do with laucnh quality

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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can't defend that

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Yeet

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bbububuh teamwork

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If it worked

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well

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yeah it didnt change shit as far as teamwork is concerned

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and didn't fuck itself over

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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attrition is a good mechanic but every team is shit no matter what so it doesn't work well

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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with pulling half their work because cosmetics

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i still get resupplied with meds and ammo by others just as much as in bf1

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and actually focused on the gameplay

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gamemodes

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etc.

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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attrition is a good mechanic in a fantasy world or a PVE game

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Probably would of done a lot better

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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^

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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it had alot of controversy walking in

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It had good mechanics, such as @midnight nimbus with attrition

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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I really enjoy them bringing back Rush tho

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memories

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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BF1 ammo count and health regen is fine

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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ITs only temporary

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greande regen

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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clutching in rush

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nutting In rush

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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being able to hold a medpack + health regen to 100% would be great

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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the fact that the German planes are full of allies in rush

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ah

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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did anyone actually think medics weren't useful enough in previous BFs?

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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thonk

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Ju-52 anyone

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full of brits

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???

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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medics in BF4 were shit

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you can't argue this

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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They should of tossed out the whole cosmetic idea

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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In detailed interviews with Eurogamer, EA CEO Andrew Wilson and DICE general manager Karl-Magnus Troedsson said the development teams behind the Battlefield series had learned their lesson the tough way after Battlefield 4 launched in a state many players labelled broken.

Battlefield 4 released late last year for PC, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One, with a target of 60 frames per second and 64-player multiplayer on next-gen consoles.

But at launch it ran into a number of problems, most notably in multiplayer, with many unable to play.```

find me a reputable quote that is this damning for bfv

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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everyone ran medic in BF4, and it was helpful

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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and just made different battalions

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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cosmetics is just
how easily do you want to be seen

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and how big do you want your hitbox

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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i'd argue each class is even more useful in BF4 than they are in BFV

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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I mena

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@untold cliff have you played day of infamy?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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I appreciate the breaking of engineer meta on big maps though

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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yes

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Do that for BFV

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with different groups

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the class balance in 4 was leagues better

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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lol

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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as cosmetics instead

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Would of worked alot better

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like we wouldn't have a fake tank

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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true true

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Valentinee AA

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has a crusader top

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on Valentine Chassis

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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valentine is just a meme at this point

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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technically doesnt exist

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unless someone has proof of a Valentine AA

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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being able to rip through a squad with a single shell makes sense for a tank but

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Jesus fuck

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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yet the tiger can die in 4 seconds

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:^)

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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none of the others are able to do that

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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At launch

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It has shit vehicle balance

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Imo

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Ju-88a anyone?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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combined arms is hard to balance

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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with like 50 bombs

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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i see my last massive text that is hard to ignore was ignored... hmm.. telling

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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@dense bone I saw

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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I think titanfall 1 did combined arms the best of any recent title

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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just gonna take you a while to find that quote ehh?

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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@solid hinge how do you counter that?

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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No point to answer

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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combined arms is a meme
it makes ur kill streak really high and people who properly grinned their own killstpeaks are hard to find because some retard killed 80 npc's on easy

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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I've moved on

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lol

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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took my first google search for bf4 to find mine

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likely

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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I genuinly dont care

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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meanwhile I struggle to 50 and people shit on me

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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you did

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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So you’ve acknowledged you’re wrong?

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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?

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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You stop caring when you realize you’re wrong

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I mean you can stick words into my mouth

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have at it

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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and suddenly when i ask you to prove your stance youre not interested

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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No

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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👌

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I mean you want a response?

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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damb ight

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I can get one lmao

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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the battlefield fandom gettin heated

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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should only take 3 minutes, like it took me

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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We had an argument the other day. I proved you were in the wrong, and then you just stopped caring

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I mean

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your so far playing it off everything you got is factual

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Before that quote

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Give me statistics

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:22 PM

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if its not factual, prove me wrong

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like i said

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Get me proof

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Stats

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:^)

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:22 PM

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but when i ask you for quotes you suddenly dont care?

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:22 PM

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stats never lie unless its bf1 with hidden stats

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:22 PM

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😂😂amen

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:22 PM

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and stats dont exist for something like a game being broken at launch

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only quotes

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which i found and showed

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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One thing

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I can say

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Is what?

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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why was the launch date pushed back

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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is "no"

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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so muhc lol

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*much

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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pushed by a month?

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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twice

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actually

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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for it to work at launch?

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vs bf4 not working for months

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mmk

tepid oracle Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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imagine thinking that bf5 is better than bf4

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:23 PM

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1 month

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your not backing yourself

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you said months

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then 1 month

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now several again

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make up your mind lad

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:^)

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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bfv was delayed 1 month afaik

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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did you just unironically use the word lad

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Im gonna banter cause @untold cliff and i were having a good conversation

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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on an internet chatroom

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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bf4 didnt work for months

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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@untold cliff I did, lol

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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lmao

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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you said 1 month

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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what a chad

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Get your facts straight

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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when?

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i never said bf4 didnt work for 1 month

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it wasnt working for several months

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Yeah you did

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lol

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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@tepid oracle I never ever ever said bfv was better than bf4

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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check 😄

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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im looking

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i dont see anything

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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@untold cliff So where were we

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lmao

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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I have no fckin clue

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lmao

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Welp

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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again, you cant quote anything backing your case

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again

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Was it tanks?

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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something about tanks yeah

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Nice

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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everything BROKEN

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Tank balance at launch was shit

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Tiger couldn't do shit

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Valentine dominated

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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the fact that u can reverse right off the bat into the battle before it even starts

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Still does

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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valentine is redonk

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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hannut memes

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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lmao

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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After armor buff for tanks, they were viable

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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kinda sad how they had to fuck over damage models in BFV bc CQB became too erratic with the networking at the time

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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yep, absolutely everything i see about bf4 i said months

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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at least BFV returned to BF3-esque damage models

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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@midnight nimbus wdym

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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oof, i see 1 that i forgot the S for

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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like if it wasn't bad enough already, you can change ammo types I think

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on the tank.

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screaming

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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but with context its obvious i meant months

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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literally howling

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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BFV's universal 4BTK is excellent

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Ew no

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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and BF4 launched with something similar

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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I want my snipers to actually kill

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lmao

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the Semi auto abuse is real

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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but youre ignoring again because you got nothing

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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but with the launch networking, CQB was way too erratic

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:26 PM

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good to know

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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dude BFV semi autos are the logical conclusion of the telemetry DICE got from BF1

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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but bolts

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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bolts were fukt

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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They are basically a downgrade

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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in BF1, people were clicking slow so that semis had no spread increase or hrec anyways

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so BFV cut out the middleman

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BF1 bolts are the peak ye

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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but bFV bolts

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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sweet spot is just necessary to keep bolts relevant

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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speaking of peaking
why tf does nobody PEAK

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Nah

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I dont think sweat spot is needed

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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sweet spot is omega nut

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I think just a mechanic where damage drops at range lol

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like CQC

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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CQB OHK is stupid

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for bolts

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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In BF1 sweetspot wouldnt let me get the kill

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Like in the chest

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I get the leg it wouldn't

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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BF1 sweet spot is upper chest only

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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but like, if your dumping a martini henry round in CQC

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At point blank

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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why are you using a long range weapon in CQB

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:28 PM

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that should do something

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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yeah you get an 80 damage chunk

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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cause K98 Iron sigts

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lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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why should a dominant long range weapon also OHK in CQB

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that's what slug shotguns are for

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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I agree

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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those dont work

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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slug shotguns = CQB sweet spot

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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slugs ftw

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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slugs work in this game now?

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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yes

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Since when lmao

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Last I used i got 40 damage in the chest lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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their OHK is still shit

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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since increased fire rate became a thing

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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but they work

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

#

ah

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so a buff happened? thats cool

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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OHK range is real bad for BFV slugs

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and BF1 slugs

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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they work better than some of the snipers now just because of fire rate

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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but at least BF1 maps made CQB pretty viable

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

#

see

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thats why

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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bf1 slugs and the hunter were redonk

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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BFV maps are just bad for CQB

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Shotguns, Semi-autos

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They outdo snipers

untold cliff Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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m e m e s

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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like the glare for god sakes

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Is fucking big as hell

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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that's why snipers need sweet spot

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Its more of the glare for me lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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if they can't drop people at long range well, what's the point

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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I can aim for heads

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but the glare

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:30 PM

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glare is fair feedback for people who can get OHKed

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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That gets countered by a G43 w/ a 3x with no glare

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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well the G43 can't OHK you

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Like? If I use a 3x on my sniper why do I get glare

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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BF1 glare/sweetspot was really well designed

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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then why wasn't it ported

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It'd probably work alot better here

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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because people reeeed about it

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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no need for 5 btk a guy cause med packs lol

#

It feels so, worthless using a sniper

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Semi's are basically the best option

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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yes

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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ZH-29 guarantees the 2 shot most of the time

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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i use AG m/42 at range

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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thats the thing

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for me

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why can someone use a DMR essentially

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at range for a sniper w/ no glare

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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isnt zh always 2 shot.. no matter what

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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SLRs deserve OHSK sweet spot

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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And then you can easily spot a Semi user

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cause glare w/ 3 x

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SAve Selb w/ its 2x

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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if SLRs have to have glare, they should be able to one shot to the head at certain ranges

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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slrs should only 1 shot headshots under soemthing stupid, like 15m

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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nah they're long range guns

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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they are long range

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Maybe like 20 and under

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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they should have like 40-75m OHSK

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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if they gave them ohk at range, they would be fucking good

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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ts just such a shit meta against snipers

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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you can spam them

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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everything can easily counter it

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

#

yeah, long range weapons should be good at long range

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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pft no

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You can spam it at range

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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but they are still good at range

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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CQC you can't

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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SARs benefit from headshots at range, SLRs should too

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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see

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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like AG m/42 has infinite 2 tap to the face

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Yes I agree

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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That's the one thing

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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they do benefit, but not in a BTK difference

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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why isn't ZH-29 rewarded for headshots when it's far more punishing

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Indeed

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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having OHK at range would just be too much

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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and they have the same TTK to the body

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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as head

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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OHK to the head at range for SLRs

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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It makes no sense

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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not a lot of things make sense, its a game

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Like what if the PTRS-41 comes in

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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True

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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It's originally a anti-tank gun if im right

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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like SLRs are 1.7x HSM, from maybe 50-75m, the ZH-29 just does 59 damage

daring terrace Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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SLRs would be fine with a bigger mag

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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does it have to be a ZH reskin?

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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I want nagant and garand

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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bolt bullet velocity vs other guns, recoil, health, revives, nothing really makes sense

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Velocity in this game is barely any good to lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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BF1 designed infy really well overall

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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@daring terrace bigger mags, better bullet velocity, and OHK headshots at short range imo would be ideal

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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MAS-44 velocity 👌

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Enfield is like the best sniper

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or Krag

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then any semi outdoes it

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K98 if you wanna meme or play SRR-61

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

#

you have Webley for CQB OHK headshots, SLRs should be for ranged OHK headshots

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Webley's OHSK range is kinda shit though tbh

#

and its base spread

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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well its a sidearm

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I like krag

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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we dont need a new .44 mag

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lol

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Enfield is good

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

#

bring back the BF4 swagnum

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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BF4 Unica

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Or 3x scope on m1911

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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With 3x lol

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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bet you won't

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Also

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

#

3x 1911 was good fun

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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you know what i noticed guys

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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you ever change your origin so you can link stats @midnight nimbus ?

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Did Veteran players get anything in BFV?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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it's back to kht120

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Like in BC2, BF3, and BF4

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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i had to change it

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I used 3x + suppressor on my 1911 just to make people mad when I killed them

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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says not found

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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It also wasn’t terrible

#

I miss c4 in the recon class

#

Man I loved bf4

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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lol

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It'd make Recon viable

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I want a remastered so badly now

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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no AT abilities

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Very true

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

#

recon is viable

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Viable against vehicles

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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it just lacks behind other classes

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Flares, spawn beacon

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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and sniper decoy!

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/xEsZq49 @dense bone then idk man

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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and betties

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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AT rifle for recon pls

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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lol

#

Thats what I want

#

give us a PTRS-41 lmao

#

Bet

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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just post it in bot commands

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

#

give AT pistol/nade launcher to medic

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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1 shot enemies but slow as hell

#

and basically use Kbullets for the gun

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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nah no 1 shot to enemies, keep it at like 80 damage or something

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

#

90

#

guys

#

It needs some power

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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force bipod like BF1 AT rocket

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

#

what's the ross like??

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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95 lol

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

#

yeah

#

make it a MMG

#

as a sniper

#

high hipfire

#

stupidly high

#

but bipod it and you got power gun

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

#

80 damage, but if you're using it on infy, you're just wasting AT ammo

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

#

RAILGUN flashbacks

#

anyone got the ross?

#

Ross is out already?

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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From AW??

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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or yeah, i'd be cool with AT rifles being bipod only primaries

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

yeah

#

i just checked

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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with sweet spot

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

yeah

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

needs OHK ability

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

the tow stuff is up

#

high high damage

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

fat sweet spot

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Like Martini pre nerf

#

lmao

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

Martini sweet spot was never nerfed

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

knowing dice

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

Yeh

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

Somethin about it was nerfed

#

they'd probably give that to the assault class

#

friend of mine stopped using it lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

#

the limb multis were glitched

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

#

ah

#

thats why

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

#

they got fixed to match all the other sniper rifles

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

#

well

#

nvm about martini

#

just make it a Bipod only primary

#

Slow ROF

#

it'd be an assault weapon

#

high damage to infantry and can hurt tanks if your good

#

No, PTRS-41

#

lol

#

yep

#

assault

#

I doubt it

#

as a primary with a 6x scope?

#

anything decent goes to assault

#

yeah why not

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

AT rifle would be fine with irons

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Back to WaW for me then if that happens

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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2x zoom irons

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

im joking

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but i really wouldnt be surprised if assault keeps getting more broke shit

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

#

mfw DICE removes zoom customization going from BF1 to BFV bc people weren't using it

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it was actually really freaking handy

#

i used it tons

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

Yeah

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

I mean

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

i always put everything on minimum, but the option was nice

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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the PTRS did have a scope

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Man can’t wait to try the new sniper

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

Technically

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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I’m kinda excited for it

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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me too

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Haven’t had a chance to get on since new tow chapter

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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fingers crossed it's not shit

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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I mean it can’t be terrible

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

#

If anything

#

If sniper gets a anti-tank rifle

#

Single shot

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PTRD-41

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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None of the bolts are shit compared to each other really

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

Single shot bipod only

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

BFV weapon balance within classes is very good

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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then have 6x scope lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

even at launch

#

weapon designer is a smart guy

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Yes I agree with that 100%

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

BFV weapon balance between classes is another thing

wicked anchor Feb 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

#

Hello

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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How would bipod down make something one shot?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

#

SMGs are actually the strongest they've ever been in BF, they're just terrible for the maps

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

#

no

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single shot

#

like 1 round load @pale rain

#

AT Rifle for recon as a primary

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Ohhh I thought you meant like kill in one shot

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Bipod only for accurate fire

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Okay gotcha that makes sense

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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well it'd do high damage lol

#

I mean make it 1 shot infantry if it loads 1 round

#

And bipod only for accurate use

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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PTRD should be able to go w/o bipod, just with terrible ADS time

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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only can reload it when bipoded lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

#

and sway

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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But reload would have to be very slow

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Nah, It would be better bipod only

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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and reload faster from the bipod

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Skill cannon the shit for it

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Drops bipod to reload

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Make it something Recon has to sacrifice DPS for

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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PRTD should be able to fire from standing to make it worthwhile against PRTS

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

I mean you could

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but it shouldnt be any good lol

#

Like a MG42 via hipfire

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

like something absurd like 600ms ADS time from standing would be fine for PRTD

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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unless you got the 1200 rpm boost of course

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

that's what G43 was in the alpha and it was just unusable

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

#

Could always bring in American anti-tank guns

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or even the Boys

#

British lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

i'd ultimately rather see AT rifles as recon gadgets

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

Canadian* I mean

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

and lever actions as primaries

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

I really don't see lever actions returning

#

As much as I'd like it to happen

#

as well

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

doesn't thematically fit, but it'd be fun

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

Indeed

#

maybe Easter Egg lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

people can fire lever actions pretty fast irl

#

could be compelling alternatives to SLRs

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Model 1887 were the best snipers in 2010

#

lmao

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

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I miss lever actions. They’re just fun

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

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I'd see the levers as a easter egg reward

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

Remember the mares leg from bf4? Lol

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

My baby

#

I sniped people with that on shanghai

#

lol

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Was so fun to use lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

1895 Trench = GOAT

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

1895 trench was god

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

Suppressor and 4x acog lol

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

I loved steamrolling fort devaux lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

i wish 1895 Trench were a Trench/Patrol hybrid variant

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

@pale rain you forgot the laser

#

nah

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

True true

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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gets Trench mods, Patrol scope + Patrol movespread

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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maybe

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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would've been a really compelling pick

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Hey, who used the M712 for assault

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Trench version

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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the thot patrol

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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lol

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m1712 patrol for Assault

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basically a shitty DMR

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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it was fun and meme-y

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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the trench version was amazing

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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pistol carbines are in the files for BFV

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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I was somehow very good with it lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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but stats are absolutely troll tier

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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yeah

solar bear Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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ZK > everything

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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maybe they are just filler lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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like i'd take the thot patrol over any BFV pistol carbine

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De Lisle Carbine MP stats are just

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unusable

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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De Lisle is cming lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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it's like 110-120 RPM

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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seriously

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It's coming in?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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should be

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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so we bring that

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but not the Welrod

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Dice wth

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I want a more close quarters infantry oriented map

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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i'm only hype for Chauchat and MG30

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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MG30 should be fun

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Chauchat is just 🤤

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Same @solid hinge

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Chauchat bet will get nerf

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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genuinely incredible stats, optic choices, and spec upgrades

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nah, Chauchat is a SAR sidegrade

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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@midnight nimbus do you know anything about maps

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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it's fine

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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lol

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Close quarters was the most underrated expansion, imo

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Cause will caen ever come

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Caen for BFV

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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future maps don't show up in datamine

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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make it the Locker or Metro

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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see guns are easy

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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damn

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Locker 3.0

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Caen for BFV. If anyone remembers DOD

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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you could pump out guns like no tomorrow

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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then you know what im talking about

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Or 4.0? Which is it

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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gun balance is easy too, with the new spread formula

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you just slap in a rate of fire, and slap in hrec values as necessary

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like it's virtually impossible to put in an absolutely troll-tier or busted gun in at this point

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Yep

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:54 PM

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SAR balance formula is really easy to follow

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i would like to see the SKS come in with the G 1-5 damage model and 450 RPM

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since it's 10 rounds

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:54 PM

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I love how when a gun gets added to any game people are like “OH MY GOD. THIS IS THIS MOST OP THING EVER” for like a day or 2

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But then it just ends up being pretty normal lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:54 PM

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launch KE7 needs to come back

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i think all autos need less hrec

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push the ZK to 0 hrec, and the Bren to 0 hrec, and adjust all other autos accordingly

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the balance formula is incredibly easy to follow

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SMGs: lower RoF is always better at >30m, higher is always better at <30m
ARs: lower RoF is always better at >35m, higher is always better at <35m besides 1907
LMGs: lower RoF is always better at >50m, higher is always better at <50m

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Hrec?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 5:58 PM

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horizontal recoil

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Ohh

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:00 PM

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usually you balance on spread increase, hrec, and RoF (and mag size)

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but LMGs have no spread increase, so you balance on the latter three alone

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Lewis = KE7 that gives up RoF for more bullets

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I'd take more bullets

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lol

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Arras skin to

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:03 PM

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yeah, BFV changed up how much you compromise for each of these factors

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in BF1, you give up more DPS with mag size than you do in BFV

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see: Lewis vs Huot in BF1 vs Lewis vs KE7 in BFV

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:04 PM

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indeed

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Huot was good still

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Huot outperforms BF1 Lewis a lot more than KE7 outperforms BFV Lewis

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Lewis seemed meh in comparison from my view

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Huot was extremely good

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Thing is, the Lewis has alot more rounds

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:04 PM

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like easily one of the best in game

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Extended mag

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KE7 doesn't got that

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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yeah, BFV Lewis is a more compelling pick than BF1 Lewis

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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indeed

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If we compare the 2, its either more ROF in upgrades

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/stability

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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because the marginal penalty for mag size in BFV is lower

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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yep

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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and BFV doesn't punish increased RoF as much as BF1 does

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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indeed

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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compromising between factors in BFV results in giving up much less

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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ironically

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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so versatility picks in BFV are kinda meh because min/maxed picks don't give up as much for maximizing one area

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like KE7 really doesn't give up much ranged ability for its RoF as BF1 BAR does

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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are we talking A2?

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Or A1

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for the BAR

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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doesn't matter

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although BAR A2 in BF1 was filthy

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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lol

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Someoen agrees

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thank god

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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bc Low Weight was extremely strong

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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can we just port the A2 into bFV

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Brits used it

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Low Weight = best LMG variant in BF1

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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give us a new LMG for god sakes. not MMG's

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i loved the A2 for that to

weak violet Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Also guys for the MMGs

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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except the Burton ironically wouldn't have benefitted much

weak violet Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Don't hold the fire just rapidly tap your mouse

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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BFV gets Madsen and Chauchat soon™

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Plus it had 2 firing modes

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Ik

weak violet Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Its reduces the recoil

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Madsen gets 40 round option

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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But like

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te A2

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Its a BAR

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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no rapidly tapping with LMGs is stupid

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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BAR

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its fun gun

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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like that's the worst thing you can do with LMGs in BF1/V

weak violet Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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@solid hinge With the MMGs i mean, it makes there recoil go nonexistent

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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in BF1, rapid tapfire jacks up your spread like crazy

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Ik lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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dude MMGs are hold LMB

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you have decreasing vrec

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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I just want the BF1 Preorder weapons to come to BFV

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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same with LMGs

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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we have the mosin filesi nthere

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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recoil gets easier as you hold LMB

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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The Dygtarev could be a new medic gun

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mosin is new sniper lol

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Carbine variant, cant do anything higher then 3x

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then the A2 can go to support

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It wouldn't be difficult to do, since we pulled alot of weapons previously. Ross, Chauchat, Madsen, etc.

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:10 PM

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i want semi's back for the medic

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:10 PM

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1916 and 1906

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I mean you can make the Mosin carbine a MEdic only

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:10 PM

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BFV medic should've had ARs

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ARs are perfect for the role

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:10 PM

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I agree

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Lol

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but they didnt want BF4 repeats

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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not stronger than semis or LMGs in BFV

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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with just med spam

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metro lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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BF4 medic was meta bc assault rifles were the best guns in the game

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assault rifles aren't close to best in BFV

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I mean

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STG is fun

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lol

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G 1-5

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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metro would've actually been perfect for BFV SMGs

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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lol

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Metro remaster when

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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perfect ranges for them

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Berlin 1945

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lmao

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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<30m aplenty

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Assaults should have smg's and shotguns like in bf1

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Metro 1945

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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close range

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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I swear if DICE did that

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I'd be happy

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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medics should have AR's and semis

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Medics should have just AR's imo

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Semis and SMG's for Assault

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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I like semi auto assault

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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either he's good up close or long range

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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but SMG assault is fine

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Assault is to viable imo

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I see more assaults then medics

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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idk i think assault should be a close range class

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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or SMGs as all class

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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oh no

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I wish Engineer classs was back

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lmao

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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bc BFV just isn't a close range game

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Bring back multi-class weapons

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I like how support gets repair tool

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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ranged medics lead to a lot of medics not in on the action

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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breaks engineer meta

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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i agree with dice

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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SMG medic pushed it too far

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AR medic would've been fine

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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ah

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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ARs aren't that incredible at range

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Mebye

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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i do just fine with them

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Stg with 3x hits

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Most guns outclass SMG's

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save the Mp34 and Mp28 if you know how to do it

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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hell, one of the guns i have over 2kpm is the mp40 which i use for ranged

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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being unable to clear at midrange makes the class a no go for me

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Or the Astra 900 when it comes out

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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but you can clear

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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CQB in BFV is miserable

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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and you can safely move around the map with their smokes

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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BFV is to open lol

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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and revive

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Essentially

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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you can midrange with medic, DPS just sucks

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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to make smg's viable

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Its way to open

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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and you don't have unlimited smokes

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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You need a Metro style map lol

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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if you had unlimited smokes on cooldown, I'd consider medic

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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or a Locker, maybe even a Fort De Vaux

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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if youre running out of smokes youre doing it wrong

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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but the fact that smokes are basically required for movement is stupid

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I just sit back and heal

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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its not required

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I play Field medic constantly, or Mp28 Assault and not heal

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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you can get around fine

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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lol

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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i like the use of smokes

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idk about u

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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it just helps a lot

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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@dense bone Bro you kinda do

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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medics are in a super good spot

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I always kill meds

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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anything outside of Devastation or Rotterdam is just painful as medic for me

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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their SPM is the highest

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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even Rotterdam is a bit much

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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?

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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my SPM with medic is the highest but I hate the class

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Meds need smokes

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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i just wish i had an AR with my medic

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Medics completely need smokes

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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ive never had problems, theres always parts of the map that are congested

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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to move

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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you just gotta stick to them

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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StG medic is perfect

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I mean I snipe people lol

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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@midnight nimbus speaks facts

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I just hard target important targets

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medic and support

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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even hamada has places for medics to shine

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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ammo and heals

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In very limited areas

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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maps are massive

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you have lots of options

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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No fucking way sherlock

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Lmao

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Of course you do

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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This is true

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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medic forces you to sit the zerg

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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yeah

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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lol no it doesnt

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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sitting in the zerg = JU-88 bait

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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i play medic solo

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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no it does not

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same

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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it does lol

pale rain Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Played a match with a guy on Hamada last night and he went like 50-15 with Thompson

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Stuka dives are proof

nocturne berry Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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i ONLY play medic

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i barely touch the other 3

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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having to be close to everyone = V-1s fuck you

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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well, i dont zerg AT ALL, and im sitting at some pretty good stats, so something is working for me

gray merlin Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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anyone up to play with me?

solid hinge Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Lol, just played with someone named Dirty-D-Trump

violet finch Feb 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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What you on ?

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:18 PM

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@gray merlin try #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

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so yea, people saying you gotta play one way, and i dont do that, with better stats than 99% of people, you obvously dont HAVE to do that

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:19 PM

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1% of stats still has a lot of variance

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like i sit within 1% for a lot of stats and I'm not that impressive

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:20 PM

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depends on stats

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:20 PM

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truth is most people are awful at the game

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like the first sector of Panzerstorm breakthrough falling within the first 3 minutes of internal playtest lol

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:20 PM

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but still doesnt negate the fact that i have top 1% of stats doing something you guys say doesnt work

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:20 PM

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internal playtesters are just bad at the game

dense bone Feb 28, 2019, 6:20 PM

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that i NEED to do it one way

midnight nimbus Feb 28, 2019, 6:21 PM

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for most people, medic is just painful to play on most maps