#battlefield-legacy-titles

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solid hinge
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Of course

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You canโ€™t get shit for it if you do it after sheโ€™s done

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Thatโ€™s free gain

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Thatโ€™s No Mans Land

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exactly

unkempt dust
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bayonet kills count as melee kills?

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great

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I'd have never spec'd a gun to have a bayonet to know

glossy mulch
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How are they supppsed to get us to fund the future of the game if they don't release the currency to buy boins ๐Ÿ˜‚

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What are they waiting for exactly?

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they better release a shit load of customisation to go along with it, because I already have 250k just sitting there waiting for some actual decent customisation

unkempt dust
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watch how people get mad when they release some boins exclusive stuff

glossy mulch
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I won't that's what it's for I guess, but I would like the choice. Like battlefront, so many crystals or grind out so many hours to get the certain amount of credits to get it

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Or like Rainbow Six Siege has a mix of exclusive real world money skins and some you can buy through grinding

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I just literally think every week that goes by is killing there further development, why is it taking them so long? Games been out 4/5 months?!? ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Literally cutting their own throats

unkempt dust
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they said they want to fix all issues with CC gains first probably coz if they didn't people would bitch about them only caring about boins implementation

glossy mulch
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the company coins are fine now aren't they? Everyone got there rebait and everyone's is earning money? Or am I mistaken?

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think the majority of people would prefer if they just pulled the trigger

unkempt dust
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yes, the only issue still on their list IIRC is that post game screen reports wrong CC gains for some people or something like that

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I believe we are very close to it

glossy mulch
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Yes that still is a problem but who cares, the main priority was to get people gaining cc, we've been in that stage for quite a few weeks now, let's get some cosmetics going here

unkempt dust
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it's almost March.. they're supposedly releasing more details about firestorm and their "roadmap"

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soon(tm)

glossy mulch
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great I do trust you man, but their roadmap is gonna be less then impressive if they can't reel any more income through the door

unkempt dust
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I agree with you on that

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I hope they have it figured out

glossy mulch
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I also think firestorm should be free, I was against it at the time, but after thinking about it. I think for the longevity of battlefield V a good royale that is FREE which will attract millions and millions of more players could buy cosmetics in that game mode which could then in turn help the prosperity of battlefield V

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Controversial opinion but I think EA need to look at the bigger picture here.

unkempt dust
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that's a risky move though

glossy mulch
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They just brought out Apex, look at that success and nobody can tell me that wouldn't help the battlefield brand

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True

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UNLESS, Which Is my theory, they don't have confidence in the finished state of this royale mode and don't want to be laughed at seeing how unpolished the game mode is

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That's my worry

unkempt dust
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not necessarily

glossy mulch
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Just a theory my man

unkempt dust
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they are the only ones who have the numbers for this game .. if they see the activity of the game is in a good place or getting better they won't feel compelled to do it

solid hinge
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what if there is squad spawn in firestorm

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you have to kill whole squad to wipe it out

glossy mulch
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I just how it's good man

unkempt dust
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that would drag the game imo.. the squad has a chance to revive.. revive timer runs out you're dead

glossy mulch
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My only hope is that's its criterion doing it, a totally different team. Because the practice range and combined arms have been laughable at best

unkempt dust
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otherwise I would never revive someone honestly

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they can just respawn without me risking myself

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hopefully we don't have to wait too long for the announcements/trailers

solid hinge
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30 sec respawn

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or other amount

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if you don't rev

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where's the drag

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WHERE IS DRAGGING

unkempt dust
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lol

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I have settled with the fact that it won't happen

glossy mulch
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any worry is? This is gonna be the first real serious version of battle royale by a major studio. How fun can they make it? What are the pick ups gonna be? it's got to be grounded in some reality.... can't be like Apex and just go bat shit crazy with ideas

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It's gonna be interesting to say the least

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Dragging would be so cool man

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Ugh

solid hinge
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pickups gonna be 1200 rpm mg42 with 250 belt

river agate
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Guys what is the best BFV or COD black ops 4?

solid hinge
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ahhhh

unkempt dust
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@river agate on the BFV discord?

glossy mulch
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Haven't played COD for like 10 years soooooo ๐Ÿ˜‚

sonic rampart
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I never really got a lot of cc sadly

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Even tho Ive played for like 90 hours

river agate
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I want to discuses that thing with bf players and cod players so yeah

sonic rampart
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BfV is the best

glossy mulch
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Well I've put in 260 hours, at the time I think I put 180 hours and got 150k

river agate
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why?

unkempt dust
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ok.. BFV for me

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and I am pretty sure for most people here

river agate
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I want reasons

sonic rampart
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Because its fresh, good gun play, bigger maps

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It looks amazing graphical

glossy mulch
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because nobody can do what battlefield does, not on that scale

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Not even close

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It's unique

sonic rampart
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Battlefield atleast adds new stuff

minor gale
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Well Battlefield has its strengths and COD has

sonic rampart
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While cod just copy pastes old parts

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^^

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If you want to be a chicken running around without a head while spraying you should play cod

river agate
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that is reason!

minor gale
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Well, COD is focused on close combat maps, 100% action all the time and fast pace gameplay

river agate
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@minor gale that is true

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thanks very much for you time!

sonic rampart
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Vehicles Chag

minor gale
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BF has vehicles DrakeYes

sonic rampart
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In MP

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And you can drive a tractor in firestorm if it comes out

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Chag farming simulator: Battlefield edition

minor gale
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I love BFs focus on Squad and more tactical focused gameplay

sonic rampart
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^

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Especially when playing with friends

minor gale
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But always enjoy a round of COD

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I pray for a MW 2 HD remake

river agate
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thanks guys I played the bfv beta but I loved bf1 more ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

minor gale
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Thats alright

sonic rampart
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Lol

river agate
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and something else does the origin access or buy bfv worth?

sonic rampart
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It was worth it for me

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But I do recommend to wait for sales

rose pilot
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Origin Access is worth it for me too

sonic rampart
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Like I bought the game for 39

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2-3 weeks after launch HaHAA

river agate
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ok I will wait the sales

sonic rampart
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It was at 30 for a moment

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Idk tbh I bought the physical one

minor gale
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Well if you think about buying it, maybe wait for a sale

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maybe there could be one coming with Firestorm release

river agate
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ok

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thanks for your help guys

minor gale
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No problem ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Feel free to ask anything

river agate
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ

topaz dome
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Armory updated PogChamp

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Added more time to the same stuff

amber notch
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I am not honestly surprised

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I dont think we will get anything new till the next chapter, or when they add the new currency

minor gale
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Firestorm soon ๐Ÿ”ฅ

topaz dome
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Turning off loadout mirroring doesn't apply to gun skins, mad

amber notch
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dont you love getting a blue skin

solid hinge
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Are smgs best gun here

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in bfv

little fjord
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They are very good in close quarters

amber notch
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its timestamped for a specific reason

solid hinge
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I have felt like I have done way better playing a medic and using smg

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Not to mention I can use heals all the time

amber notch
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SMGs apart from the mp40 struggle at most ranges

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thats a TLDR

solid hinge
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I shot down a mosquito with a Stug .. I laughed so hard at the salt .. just like when you know your shot is a good one before you click fire

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Maybe it's just me then

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I have been playing domination which feels like gunfights could be close in the first place

amber notch
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most of the time players will run the suomi or the tommy gun, the majority will use the suomi due to it having the best base RPM for any SMG in the game, and you dont get penalized for running with the 50 magazine.
The tommy gun on the other hand you will be hurt with a small decrease in RPM compared to the suomi, so base stats the suomi is better, but once you get to the 900rpm perk for the tommy gun, thats when usually the tommy shines, it has very controllable recoil and drops people in milliseconds.

topaz dome
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Wish I could use blooo sad

tight tusk
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have we been told the exact release date for firestorm or is it still sometime in late march?

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i forgot and discord was open lol

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takes effort to google things

fathom pebble
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is it me or no one noticed there's a firestorm medal in the medal tab in BFV already

tight tusk
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ive never heard anything about that lol

solid hinge
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Theres some firestorm stuff in the controles

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Like open and zoom on the map

stoic breach
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Is the Ross available to get now?

solid hinge
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Prob

stoic breach
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It was still 5 hours to go when I checked

solid hinge
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Donno

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Fucking ross

tight tusk
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yeah

solid hinge
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Ross = 10 more headshots in a life in obj areas

tight tusk
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should be in a couple of minutes

solid hinge
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I HAVE TO DO 150 NOW

tight tusk
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was about 3 and a half hours away 3 and a half hours ago

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oof

slow cradle
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Not sure if I asked here before, but does anyone else find the sliding to work quite unreliably in bfv?

solid hinge
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Nope

tight tusk
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only issue is that you cant rebind it

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as far as i know

solid hinge
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Its good for me

slow cradle
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Interesting. I can't quite figure out what's going on, sometimes it just works. Other times I find that I have to stop or jump or something, then start running again to get it working

tight tusk
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yeah i think you just have to double click control really fast for it work

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at least for me

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bc if you double click too slow then you just crouch up and down

solid hinge
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I have so much shit to do

tight tusk
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great

topaz dome
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hmm, I see a bunch of new assignments

solid hinge
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New assignments
Masteries
Ross

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God help me

tight tusk
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say please

solid hinge
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Pls happy

slow cradle
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Do you have crouch on hold or toggle

tight tusk
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not to me

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i have it on hold

solid hinge
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Dice pls

tight tusk
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much better

solid hinge
topaz dome
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I have both happy

brisk field
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this specializations bug is awful as hell

topaz dome
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my x (keyboard) button is crouch toggle

tight tusk
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still waiting for them to add customisable tankers and pilots lmao

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yeah same

slow cradle
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I have it on toggle, maybe it's something to do with that

tight tusk
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yeah probably

solid hinge
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When im done with ze assignments and everything,i will finally be free

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From this hell

brisk field
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So close to maxing out my damn tommy

slow cradle
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Got to try tonight. Anyway, thanks guys.

solid hinge
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Np :)

tight tusk
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its so sad how i finished maxing the tommy then decided it was shit for my playstyle lol

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just use the mp40 now

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best smg imo

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i should get around to doing the masteries

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rn ive only fully done mas44 mg42 and tommy lol

solid hinge
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My problem is...

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I dont have a playstyle

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I use everything

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And i mean

tight tusk
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lmao

solid hinge
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EVERYTHING

tight tusk
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even the shotguns?

solid hinge
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Yes

tight tusk
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i only use the drilling as a meme sniper lol

solid hinge
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I prob have more than 400 kills with every gun in the game

tight tusk
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thats not good

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you play too much

solid hinge
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Slug on the m1897 is amazing

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I have 267h

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On the game

tight tusk
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fuck thats less than me

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nvm

solid hinge
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And its the only game i play

tight tusk
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yeah same lol

solid hinge
tight tusk
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oof

solid hinge
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I downloaded war thunder for the 7th time

tight tusk
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7th?

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why lol

solid hinge
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I always play it,then delete it

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Then i download it

tight tusk
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f

solid hinge
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Then i download it

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And i delete it

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Then i download it

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And delete it

tight tusk
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thats probably not very good

solid hinge
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Yea lol il keep it now

tight tusk
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gut

solid hinge
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Its only 30gb

tight tusk
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oh kk

solid hinge
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And i have 1500

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๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜Ž

tight tusk
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not enough

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get more

solid hinge
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For what i play its fine

tight tusk
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idc get more

solid hinge
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Nein

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I dont need it

tight tusk
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anyway wrong chat for this lol

solid hinge
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Yep lol

tight tusk
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f

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wonder when theyll add customisable tankers and pilots lol

solid hinge
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I often try to hype myself up watching the tank 3d customization in the reveal trailer

tight tusk
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i want my axis tanker to look actually decent pls dice

solid hinge
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Yes

tight tusk
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yeah same lol

solid hinge
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But dice = wHaTs iNfO?

tight tusk
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ikr

solid hinge
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Theres nothing we know about firestorm

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It has tractors and tanks

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Thats all

tight tusk
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dont even know the release date yet

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so sad

solid hinge
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Lmao

tight tusk
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"late march"

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thanks dice

solid hinge
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Prob the last day

tight tusk
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ikr

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i wonder how theyre gonna work tanks into it

solid hinge
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Hmmm

tight tusk
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like wasnt there supposed to be objectives to capture and whatever?

solid hinge
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Make its armour shit and the gun weak

tight tusk
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maybe theres a couple of tanks to capture or something

solid hinge
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Maybe around 3 shots to kill or 2

tight tusk
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mmm

solid hinge
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1 shot with the tank would be op

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You gotta have time to react

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Its br after all

tight tusk
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yeah

slow cradle
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Were tanks confirmed?

tight tusk
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yeah

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one of the only things

solid hinge
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Yep

slow cradle
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Or just transports?

tight tusk
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tractors and tanks so far

solid hinge
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And if your tank gets destroyed you shouldnt die in it

tight tusk
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or at least have the chance to get out

solid hinge
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Lose some health and yeet out

tight tusk
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like 10 seconds before it explodes or something

solid hinge
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^

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Good idea

slow cradle
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Ok, sounds a bit odd - but maybe it'll be fine..

fathom pebble
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is this weeks tow live yet?

solid hinge
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Donno

tight tusk
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in a couple of minutes i think

solid hinge
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Im at school

tight tusk
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it said a few hours a few hours ago lol

fathom pebble
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Iam at internship GWvertiPeepoSadMan

solid hinge
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Got 2 more classes

tight tusk
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f

solid hinge
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MATHS

tight tusk
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fucking hate trig

long topaz
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And i have work

tight tusk
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oof

solid hinge
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Is the dev team that works on br gonna help dice when firestorm is finished?

tight tusk
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hope so

solid hinge
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Same

tight tusk
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be a lot more stuff coming in faster then

solid hinge
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Gtg

tight tusk
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aight cya

long topaz
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Stuff flying faster at ya than an 1200 rpm mg42

tight tusk
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i swear if we dont have russians, japanese and us in the game by the end of the year then ima leave lol

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i wish

amber goblet
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Not gonna happend this year

tight tusk
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f

long topaz
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One can only speculate

tight tusk
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i mean if they get their shit together and keep doing it in chronological order then they should be lol

brisk field
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You know when your teams going full ham and then by the near end of the match you guys fail miserably cus you got too cocky

sleek trail
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So it's pretty safe to say they pulled the live team from this game (or severely shrunken it) right? i mean it's been 5 months and all we got is a couple of weapons ๐Ÿ˜‚

tight tusk
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i believe it was fairly small to begin with

amber goblet
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Next year will be battlefield 6

tight tusk
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plus they only had about 2 years to make it

amber goblet
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they wont make it to mid war

tight tusk
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i mean theyll still be doing the live service stuff

brisk field
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Wonder if we get Vietnam next

sleek trail
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Next year bf6? doubt it

tight tusk
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since theres no premium

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i imagine that theyll be doing another modern one next

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i think people have had enough history for now

amber goblet
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i dont thing with bfV can live that long

tight tusk
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especially if they keep up the "untold stories of..." idea

sleek trail
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i mean if there was a huge amount of people playing they would put out content right? rn it's abysmal

tight tusk
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i mean when i get on the servers are always full

sleek trail
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same

amber goblet
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like starwars battlefront 2

tight tusk
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maybe thats just bc OCE has a small playerbase lol

solid hinge
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perhaps ww2 pacific theater as a stand alone game

tight tusk
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well sb2 is going strong rn from what ive heard

brisk field
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New assignments coming out in 5 minutes. time to put bayonets on every single gun I use

sleek trail
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i have no problem finding servers but still i wonder if the numbers are good

tight tusk
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lol

amber goblet
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yeah they just add Anakin Skywalker

tight tusk
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oh i thought that was next week

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damn

brisk field
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Crossovers nobody asked for

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Anakin in battlefield

amber goblet
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next month will be capital ship mode

tight tusk
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in battlefront lol

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not battlefield

brisk field
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I did say crossover

tight tusk
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true

amber goblet
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I mean battlefile has to make profit for EA or Dice will not have enough resource to put on content

sleek trail
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also firestorm (i still think is a mistake, i dont play bf for br) is still out a month i think.. they have a recording session in 3 weeks so

tight tusk
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firestorm is late march probs

sleek trail
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yup

amber goblet
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maybe firestorm is free

tight tusk
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hope so

brisk field
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how to git gud with hip firing

tight tusk
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bring way more people into the game then

sleek trail
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with apex being what it is, they have to do a f2p version right

tight tusk
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but since its ea the best would be a free trial lol

brisk field
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ok so all my company have bayonets except for medic

amber goblet
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Hope so

tight tusk
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oof

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i really wish they spent more time on combined arms

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be so much better if they did

sleek trail
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Also amazing, in 5 months time not a single new outfit to buy or skin for our guns?? i mean what is going on at dice? id really like to know

long topaz
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One of the mp's does have a bayonet

brisk field
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what's a good objective based gamemode

tight tusk
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i would say rush but only in grand ops rn lol

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aside from that probably frontlines

brisk field
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Aight

tight tusk
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assuming you want to play only on objective that is

brisk field
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i really want the damn ross

tight tusk
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probably gonna be trash

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no bolt actions are gonna beat the krag or k98

brisk field
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least it beats having only 4 bolt actions

tight tusk
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i repeat my statement

amber goblet
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ww2 with smg ar and mg :))

tight tusk
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also blued skin on the krag looks absolutely lit

brisk field
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really huh

tight tusk
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yeah

brisk field
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Already bought blued on kar tho

tight tusk
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fair

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love the wood grain pattern it has

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so the more wood the better lol

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i just keep the default 6x on it since i think blued is like a 2x or something

brisk field
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The kars blued muzzle looks like a suppressor lol

tight tusk
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lmao i just use blued one all my semis and bolt actions lol

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looks so good

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thats the only reason im not complaining about the lack of new skins

brisk field
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fuck I can't find a game

tight tusk
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f

sleek trail
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i hope we get back to modern , it's most relatable for people and what most people want i think

tight tusk
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yeah

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as much as i wanna see a vietnam one i think modern is prolly best for now

brisk field
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cries in ww2

tight tusk
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a korea battlefield would be interesting

sleek trail
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people say the want historical settings but it gets boring quick i think

tight tusk
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yeah

brisk field
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what about the emu war

tight tusk
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yes

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that would be perfect

sleek trail
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i'd love a black ops style BF 70/80/90s

brisk field
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fuck there's no frontlines servers anywhere

tight tusk
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yeah its one of the rarer modes sadly

solid hinge
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What do yall reckon when weโ€™ll get the new company gear that was supposed to come this month?

sleek trail
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but i think modern would be best for the franshise

tight tusk
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i find it really fun lol

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theres supposed to be new gear?

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wow

solid hinge
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Yeah it says on the pic thing, โ€œNew company gear and Elite outfitsโ€ for February

tight tusk
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well the chances of it being actual soon are unlikely so i imagine its a dice soon

slow cradle
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I'd be surprised to see next bf come out with same schedule as in the past. Or as a similar package.

tight tusk
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yeah ikr

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aight ima head off now

sleek trail
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i wish they'd put out a new roadmap because i hate not knowing

tight tusk
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see youse later

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yeah they made a roadmap up to firestorm

solid hinge
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I doubt dice themselves know

tight tusk
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but its pretty useless

sleek trail
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it is

slow cradle
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Imho, drop the single player mode completely, and use all the resources to make the multiplayer play well.

solid hinge
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Reckon thats what the skeleton crew thats left working on the game has done

amber goblet
slow cradle
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Yea, I mean in the future. But that's just my opinion. Maybe the sp is good selling point, and worth keeping around.

quartz ivy
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so thers this kid lvl 20 in grand operation 200 kills anticheat works no?

fathom pebble
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maybe he's a good player?

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do you consider that sometimes?

quartz ivy
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tried to find the /S ?

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!request /S

amber notch
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@quartz ivy report it in game if you suspect them to be cheating

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9/10 times they are cheating especially in the current meta

solid hinge
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^^

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I usually just find another server

fathom pebble
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I normally get called cheater GWvertiPeepoSadMan

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I just have a good gaming chair

quartz ivy
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all chat seem to have reported him, how many would it take for a logical kick/temp ban ๐Ÿค”

amber notch
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well we dont know how the "banning process" is at DICE/EA

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So we dont technically know.

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Most of the time 1 report wont do anything, its when users start getting stacks upon stacks of reports

solid hinge
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more likely than not they have a huge backlog some poor dude is working through

fathom pebble
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massive report doesnt kick/temp/ban people

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or else there would be alot of false flags

amber notch
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its like our logs here, say a user is being arrogant in chat, nothing to warrant a mute, once we get a certain amount of reports of them being a troll, nuisance or just being intolerable we take action.
So id assume there would be a similar process.

fathom pebble
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normally when mass reported someone will take a look and double check if its legit or not

quartz ivy
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Love that fact about pubg, i can send in a small aimbot clip 2 min and his banned the next day

amber notch
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if you submit a report with proof most of the time they will be banned.

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but what we say might not be true, we arent DICE employees, we are community volunteers.
So our word isnt final.

solid hinge
amber notch
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@solid hinge Iโ€™m surprised you are still here

fading tiger
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same

solid hinge
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@amber notch u wot

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I have BFV smh

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i'm not active here at all tho

stoic breach
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Woo hoo

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I just unlocked the Ross within a few hours

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Easy challenges this week

amber notch
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Oh yeah, the new weapon is live isnโ€™t it?

fathom pebble
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yep

stoic breach
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Dark Helmut

icy sluice
#

I work today happy

solid hinge
#

Wth was that

icy sluice
#

Well, I get out at 5... I start at 9, I can get it

solid hinge
#

I just got a prompt saying โ€œready to re enlist? BUY NOWโ€

#

The fuck is that about

#

Oh I think the game had uninstalled by deluxe upgrade

amber notch
#

@stoic breach is the Ross any good

icy sluice
#

dice can we get "Allons-y" as a "Go go go" command?

strong spear
#

Anyone else Just cba with BFV anymore and feel bored af

#

I'm just playing War Thunder alot now

#

And Bf4

#

(Amazing Battlefield)

solid hinge
#

Yeah im a bit bored

#

The gameplay is fun, maps are garbage

#

Would love to play lots but man the maps are just so flat and boring

stoic breach
#

I havent really used it yet, I'll try next round @amber notch

amber notch
#

Itโ€™s for recon right

#

@stoic breach

stoic breach
#

Yeah

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We got Twisted Steel so this should be good for it

#

It has a firerate upgrade to bring it closer to the Lee Enfield

fading tiger
#

well this weeks tow was easy af

amber notch
#

@fading tiger do you have the Ross now?

haughty pawn
#

is it known what bullet speed the ross has ?

#

and what are the skill trees like ?

#

i hope not that bugged low drag and zeroing

stoic breach
#

I think its a high accuracy, medium bullet drag rifle

#

I'm using it now

haughty pawn
#

so like the m95 ?

fading tiger
#

@amber notch almost, just a few more caps

haughty pawn
#

or wait,m95 was high dmg,highest accuracy is the kar98?not much of a recon player :/

stoic breach
#

Highest accuracy is Krag

haughty pawn
#

higher than kar ?

stoic breach
#

Highest muzzle velocity and lowest drag is Kar

#

Yeah

haughty pawn
#

ah k

#

just wondering where the ross will fit in

stoic breach
#

Yeah I was right, the Ross feels like a Krag-Enfield hybrid

haughty pawn
#

is that a good thing ? lol

#

scope 3x or 6x ?

stoic breach
#

I'm trying out 6x right now

solid hinge
#

Time to rage on bf

#

Yeet

brisk field
#

wait a minute didn't I already plant a bomb already it looks like the assignments are broken again

solid hinge
#

Cant w8 to do all these headshots in obj areas

#

and to get it to lvl 10

#

Tnx dice

#

All we need is more snipers

brisk field
#

I was doing one man army and when I got 2 kills it said that I had already done the assignment

swift condor
#

Should have given it to the assault

solid hinge
#

wait its new tow week again

opaque cipher
#

Yah

brisk field
#

at least we got equipping sets

#

Proof that dice actually listens to us

bitter oracle
#

is RSP coming soon ?

solid hinge
#

Im gonna w8 for the new update

brisk field
#

thats a mayve

solid hinge
#

I cant do these assignments anymore

amber notch
#

@bitter oracle according to dice, we might be getting a form of RSP

solid hinge
#

Il go crazy

amber notch
#

Or even just servers

bitter oracle
#

great

opaque cipher
#

RSP firing range

amber notch
#

โ€œCommunity created serversโ€

bitter oracle
#

I just don't want to play with cheaters

opaque cipher
brisk field
#

*please give me large scale frontlines dicepls *

opaque cipher
#

128 men Hamada

solid hinge
#

lol 400 dmg against planes

#

it's aa week

brisk field
#

The worst type of frontlines is the 3 objective ones

solid hinge
#

Goddamnit cant believe tanks are still a meme

brisk field
#

FUCK YES I got hamada

opaque cipher
#

Tanks have always been a meme since BF1

solid hinge
#

At least the tanks in bf1 were relatively good

opaque cipher
#

Still are to some extent

#

Just much slower now

solid hinge
#

Here in bf5 one assault can take down a fucking panzer battalion single handed

opaque cipher
#

And since we have no active protection tanks chill at the back and farm infantry

#

Or plink away at each other telling them to fuck off so they can go back to infantry farming

solid hinge
#

And even thats a bit shit like, the main gun has to be a direct hit to kill, and the coaxial doesnt have the TTK to kill someone running into cover most of the time

opaque cipher
#

When do we get like a tank that just has a bunch of MG42s strapped on the top for specialization

compact oxide
#

Tanks were op as hell in BF1 though

opaque cipher
#

Iโ€™d take that at a heartbeat

solid hinge
#

Tanks were actual tanks in bf1

#

Youre not supposed to be able to 1v1 a tank

opaque cipher
#

Yeah tanks were pretty busted in BF1 but rocket gun has a super long range too

solid hinge
#

Its a fucken tank like

opaque cipher
#

So people can engage tanks from a good distance

little fjord
#

Actually maybe tanking wasn't so different in bf4 vs bfv

compact oxide
#

Yes it's a tank, but it's not fun gameplay where your playing good depends on you clicking the spawn in tank button faster

opaque cipher
#

BF4 lets you drive on in and win with skill and good positioning

little fjord
#

Except infantry can run like 30 mph

opaque cipher
#

Because every tank is fast and kills at about the same speed

#

Also active protection

#

No need to worry about rockets because you timed your thing right

solid hinge
#

Isnt fun gameplay either when pete panzerfaust bunny hops at you and unloads 3 fausts and 3 tnt onto you and if you kill him heโ€™ll be back in a 10 seconds with the same arsenal

little fjord
#

Yeah active protection, and tanks moved faster relative to infantry foot speed and projectiles

sonic rampart
#

Are the new challenges (ToW) there?

compact oxide
#

If you're letting someone put three TNT on you you deserve to be blown up so ๐Ÿคท

celest crystal
#

same

solid hinge
#

How though

#

If they disable my track

#

I cant escape

#

/ disable the turret

#

Rip aiming

compact oxide
#

Emergency repair for the tracks?

sonic rampart
#

^

solid hinge
#

And when they disable it again with the second faust?

opaque cipher
#

Trust me, it wonโ€™t bust you out

solid hinge
#

And you are at 52 health

amber notch
#

Or do critical damage to the tank hull

sonic rampart
#

You should just drive away

opaque cipher
#

Unless youโ€™re a small tank with tracks still up

little fjord
#

Maybe it amounts to a further safe range of engagement for tanks in bfv compared to bf4

opaque cipher
#

Good luck driving away when you get jumped

amber notch
#

Itโ€™s not a tanks fault that dice implemented this whole track/hull damage system now

sonic rampart
#

Well if you kill them

#

Than just drive away

#

So they wont come back at you

little fjord
#

Yeah once they are there you're pretty f'd

amber notch
#

Without that system people would dominate with tanks

opaque cipher
#

Well if your track and turret are down there is no coming out of this

amber notch
#

But you can still be the best player in the game with a tank

#

You just need to be smart

solid hinge
#

And most of the time pete panzerfaust has his friend paul piat with him

compact oxide
#

Pretty much what Dadmin said

amber notch
#

With both how you use it and how you position it

solid hinge
#

So even if you manage to escape theyll chase you down spawning on each other endlessly

sonic rampart
#

Lol

opaque cipher
#

Itโ€™s just a mediocre way to balance stuff without active protection tbh

little fjord
#

Yeah I don't think bfv tanks are far off balanced tbh

amber notch
#

This is turning into world of tanks simulator

solid hinge
#

Tanks are balanced, assaults arent

amber notch
#

@opaque cipher the next modern battlefield will incorporate these mechanics though

little fjord
#

If they were much stronger they'd be cancer

opaque cipher
#

When do we get arty tanks so we can nuke points from spawn

fading tiger
#

aight got the bob ross rifle

opaque cipher
amber notch
#

@opaque cipher soontm_w

opaque cipher
#

At least modern tanks are faster in every way possible

sonic rampart
#

The next bf will hopefully be a modern one

amber notch
#

Well yeah

solid hinge
#

Assaults should only spawn with 1 faust and 2 tnt / 1 mine

opaque cipher
#

And active protection means BF4 tank plays will be back again

#

Just with actual risks now

amber notch
#

We advanced in mechanical engineering and engineering as a whole

swift condor
#

Yay active pro

amber notch
#

So better more powerful tanks

#

And faster tanks

sonic rampart
#

Engineer class Chag

swift condor
#

Can't wait for guided shells, AP shells and active protection

opaque cipher
#

Combine support and engineer

brisk field
#

it's just 2 objectives how the fuck is it hard to capture 2 objectives without dyinf

sonic rampart
#

Assaults with meds LUL

compact oxide
#

BF4?

sonic rampart
#

Ye, I wonder what they will do in the next bf

opaque cipher
#

Hopefully modern tbh

solid hinge
#

Better be modern like bf4

sonic rampart
#

Metro 3.0

solid hinge
#

Imagine modern combat with this engine and this level of customization for the soldiers

sonic rampart
#

Jk

solid hinge
#

Oh my

opaque cipher
#

Better be modern like WW3*

fading tiger
#

I want the Commander from BF2 back

opaque cipher
#

I want those new guns

#

Not stuff that are at least a decade old

little fjord
#

I still pine for a Vietnam bf... bfbc2 vietnam was so friggin cool but too short lived

#

Left me hungry

opaque cipher
#

Vietnam BF would be nice tbh

solid hinge
#

Vietnam

#

Eh

opaque cipher
#

Inb4 โ€œtoo offensive to vietnameseโ€

sonic rampart
#

Wouldnt really like a vietnam bf

fading tiger
#

more like too offensive to the us army, losing against rice farmers smh

solid hinge
#

Idk if that many people outside the US would care about vietnam that much

sonic rampart
#

^

opaque cipher
#

Well US is the main clusterfuck of everything

#

So you never know for sure

haughty pawn
#

world war 3 has my wish setting,too bad the game is still in pre alpha and no players,or almost none

fading tiger
#

i want an emu war battlefield

#

peck those aussies

opaque cipher
#

A modern BF with every gun from all previous BF titles

#

People will bite

fading tiger
#

tbh bc3 would be nice

opaque cipher
#

BC3 now would just ruin the story

#

Better leave it as is

sonic rampart
#

^

compact oxide
#

I still want Battlefield: Blood Dragon

fading tiger
#

hardline 2 Kappa

sonic rampart
#

Next battlefield: the Roman empire picard

opaque cipher
#

Modern Combat 2

little fjord
#

Well maybe they could do several theaters of war in the 60s, not just vietnam

compact oxide
#

Korea

haughty pawn
#

weapons of nature,aussies will dominate the world ! LUL

#

just throw a few snakes and spiders

fading tiger
#

Russia used the cold, it was very effective

solid hinge
#

Iโ€™d love see the Armata 14 in a battlefield game

#

Hoping we get it in the next if its a modern shooter

opaque cipher
#

The sexiest bolt action

haughty pawn
#

hope we get some new maps soon on V,doubt i will play the next betafield

solid hinge
#

I doubt weโ€™ll get any new maps for bfv

#

Firestorm will be it

haughty pawn
#

lol the lenght of that bayonette

sonic rampart
#

Nooooo

fading tiger
#

didnt we just get a whole new op which is several maps?

haughty pawn
#

no new maps

sonic rampart
#

They removed 24/7 panzerstorms grandops

haughty pawn
#

just recyle

sonic rampart
fading tiger
#

i see

gray glade
#

the ammount of maps we've gotten so far isnt low afaik

solid hinge
#

We got one map like two months ago

gray glade
#

yeah but two new so far right?

solid hinge
#

Thats the only map weโ€™ve gotten

gray glade
#

in 6 months

fading tiger
#

I'd rather have new factions

haughty pawn
#

it is low,and it is becoming pretty boring imo

fading tiger
#

than maps

sonic rampart
#

Were getting firestorm anyway

opaque cipher
#

More guns

#

More melee

#

More cosmetics

solid hinge
#

New maps should come first

fading tiger
#

MOAR

amber notch
#

Itโ€™s been 2-3 months since release, within that time if we still had the premium pass, we would be getting 4 new maps within the month.

little fjord
#

Rsp ๐Ÿ˜ญ

solid hinge
#

Because guns etc dont matter at all if the maps you play on are garbage

sonic rampart
#

True

gray glade
#

in BF1 we got the first maps like 6 months after release ๐Ÿ˜„

amber notch
#

We have had 1 new map

haughty pawn
#

question will be how much will firestorm divide normal mp from br mode,like even more mp modes will die ?

amber notch
#

Dice, if you donโ€™t want to split the community, do what Ubisoft is doing with the division season pass

#

Please

gray glade
#

how quick do maps come in siege?

#

or official maps for CS

solid hinge
#

No dont do that lmao

#

Division season pass is stupid

amber notch
#

@solid hinge itโ€™s still free?

solid hinge
#

You pay for early access

amber notch
#

Itโ€™s all free

#

You get the dlc 7 days early

sonic rampart
#

whats the reason of the season pass?

amber notch
#

Plus new missions and new cosmetics

sonic rampart
#

If its free

amber notch
#

And you get the new specialisations early

solid hinge
#

Its like wildlands Y2 pass

#

Absolutely useless

patent kernel
#

Why there is no vote for maps ?????!!! Most of people do not want play in snow maps and i am one of them . Pleaaase we want vote

#

Why there is no vote for maps ?????!!! Most of people do not want play in snow maps and i am one of them . Pleaaase we want vote

solid hinge
#

I just quit on narvik and fjell

sonic rampart
#

Lol

haughty pawn
#

err wrong,i love them

amber notch
#

@solid hinge no not really

solid hinge
#

Still dont understand how fjell made it into the conquest playlist

sonic rampart
#

I only quit on Narvik

amber notch
#

Instead of backing your statement you are just giving blunt responses

solid hinge
#

Or even in the game

little fjord
#

Rsp would solve it... I waste alot of time joining and leaving servers... alot of time

sonic rampart
#

^

amber notch
#

@little fjord RSP isnโ€™t the cure for this game

#

It really isnโ€™t.

sonic rampart
#

It wouldnt really make a difference

solid hinge
#

@amber notch I dont care enough to back my statements, and idk the people here care enough to read them either

patent kernel
#

Why there is no vote for maps ?????!!! Most of people do not want play in snow maps and i am one of them . Pleaaase we want vote ( let the dice see )

sonic rampart
#

Because there would come other problems with RSP

amber notch
#

There are plenty more issues that have been unresolved that need to be fixed before even considering rsp

#

This whole โ€œMapโ€ ordeal is so annoying

sonic rampart
#

Spamming a message wonโ€™t help @patent kernel

little fjord
#

I know... but I really liked it in bf4.... helped with the "repeatable experience"... having a repeatable battlefield experience is something levelcap has talked about and I agree

solid hinge
#

Also where the hell is HC mode

amber notch
#

Not coming.

#

Well yet

sonic rampart
#

Lol

solid hinge
#

Another thing removed for seemingly no reason

patent kernel
#

Snow maps it's harmful for eyes

sonic rampart
#

Dies by sniper from across the map in HC, who shot me? ๐Ÿ‘€

solid hinge
#

sultan you need to adjust your brightness/gamma

patent kernel
#

We want vote at least

little fjord
#

I can go join a bf4 24/7 golmud server right now and basically I know what to expect... bfv servers are a crapshoot rn

solid hinge
#

BF1 did have the vote system

#

Dont understand why its not here

sonic rampart
#

There are too many modes in bf4 lol

#

At first it was okay

#

But now you cant even play those modes anymore

gray glade
#

i wish BF1 had voting for the game mode i played

amber notch
#

Maybe because dice thought it wasnโ€™t used enough

#

Who knows

#

There are things I wanted from hardline to be implemented into every battlefield game

patent kernel
#

Breakthrough it must be vote guys

amber notch
#

Like the whole taking ammo from allies thing

solid hinge
#

Hardline

amber notch
#

And health

solid hinge
#

Hell no

amber notch
#

Like where is that?

solid hinge
#

Nobody wanted that, thats why it stayed in bfh

amber notch
#

@solid hinge not true.

sonic rampart
#

Thats your opinion

solid hinge
#

Majority didnt anyway

#

Thats why it stayed in hardline

sonic rampart
#

You still dont have a Solid argument

solid hinge
#

๐Ÿคท

amber notch
#

During battlefield 3 cycle majority of the player base wanted a fix to the supports not giving people ammo

#

Same with assaults not dropping meds

gray glade
#

a part of me thinks taking ammo from teammates is a great idea...but the part of me that likes to hide in bushes with a bipod REALLY dislikes that idea LUL

sonic rampart
#

The majority wanted rainbows all over the maps ye trust me

#

totally

gray glade
#

cuz teammates often ruin my hiding spots

amber notch
#

@sonic rampart the majority wanted a nuke as a primary

solid hinge
#

Taking resources from teammates would eliminate a big part of teamplay

little fjord
#

I wish it was more obnoxious and annoying when you request ammo

amber notch
#

No it wouldnโ€™t?

solid hinge
#

You wouldnt have to play your role, could just sit there and let others take from you

little fjord
#

Last night I spammed "more ammo" so many times and the blueberry right in front of me had no idea

amber notch
#

You would still need support/medic players to give ammo boxes and medics to give health to players, say their box got shot, and they didnโ€™t have health pouches to give out, a player can just walk up to them and take a med from them

#

While still being in the action

solid hinge
#

Yeah eliminates the need for boxes and pouches

#

Two core features made irrelevant

amber notch
#

So this whole โ€œthe majority didnโ€™t want thatโ€ is a total lie.
It was a fix that the community wanted during the BF3 cycle

little fjord
#

Why is there 2 cooldowns for ammo boxes...

gray glade
#

but what about when a teammate runs up to me to get my ammo and the enemies see ME because he revealed me

#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

patent kernel
#

The ammo that you take it after kill enemy it should be to much ,

amber notch
#

@gray glade but that doesnโ€™t matter squirtleDerp

patent kernel
#

Not just 3 bullits

solid hinge
#

If they made it so you could just walk to a teammate and take it from them, why have medic and support classes at all?

gray glade
#

i think most ammo issues is resolved by thinking ahead, if you see a dead person laying around take his ammo, even if you have like 2 mags

amber notch
#

It was a good feature that needed to be worked on

#

Maybe have a cooldown

gray glade
#

health is a bit worse

amber notch
#

I wouldnโ€™t mind that

solid hinge
#

If it had a cooldown then people would complain that they cant get ammo and get healed

#

And the the player would have to throw a pouch or a crate anyway

amber notch
#

@solid hinge No, you would still need medics to be able to take the x pouch from them

#

Ok

#

Slow down

#

You arenโ€™t reading what Iโ€™m saying correctly

solid hinge
#

I just think its a stupid idea

gray glade
#

we need more medics regardless

amber notch
#

You would still need both supports and medics on your team for this feature to work, the whole โ€œTaking X from personโ€ x being the ammo/meds.
Now, if they worked in that feature and corrected it fully, by adding a cooldown it would be super useful, because firstly, the ammo box has a cooldown when you place it, and ammo/medic pouches will most likely get a nerf soon

gray glade
#

im often one of 2-3 medics in total for the entire team

solid hinge
#

Why would ammo and med pouches get a nerf soon?

amber notch
#

There is literally no point in running anything other than the pouches

#

You are just hurting yourself and your team more if you pick the medic box

solid hinge
#

But why would they nerf the pouch

amber notch
#

Have a certain number of them

solid hinge
#

If they had any brain theyd buff the box

amber notch
#

Not have an unlimited supply

#

And they can buff the box, by making it so you can fully restock your pouches once you use them all

#

If they do end up doing this

#

Or even adding a small AOE to the medic box

solid hinge
#

That sounds like a poor system

amber notch
#

And keeping both the โ€œUnlimitedโ€ pouches system

solid hinge
#

They oughta make the box how it was in bf4

amber notch
#

No

#

That was way too strong

patent kernel
#

Don't tell me if it will be lot of ammo after kill enemy i will not take it from support , ( this is not excuse)

solid hinge
#

What do you want battlefield to be my guy

amber notch
#

@patent kernel what

solid hinge
#

All these changes your proposing are straying so far from what battlefield was and is

amber notch
#

Dice stated when first revealing BFv โ€œwe are trying new thingsโ€

#

Did they not

solid hinge
#

Yeah and look how it worked out for them

amber notch
#

Because people donโ€™t like change

solid hinge
#

People like change, but not bad change

amber notch
#

If they just keep releasing the same bland medic box it would just be boring

slow cradle
#

No. People don't like change.

gray glade
#

im not sure its about liking the change or not, i think it has affected gameplay in a way that ppl arent too fond of

amber notch
#

Nobody likes change as I said

magic smelt
#

Can we just get bfbc2 remastered

#

Ty

wintry void
#

I'm so sad๐Ÿ˜ข

gray glade
#

if the gameplay was improved ppl would give it ๐Ÿ‘

solid hinge
#

Well yeah tbf people are very reluctant to change

amber notch
#

And watch what happens when the next battlefield gets released, people will say they miss X from BFV

#

And the same cycle will continue

fading tiger
#

bc2 was such a good game with such good maps

amber notch
#

As it has always done with battlefield

solid hinge
#

Though I doubt many will say that they miss something from bfv, at least not in the state it is now

amber notch
#

Gunplay

fading tiger
#

What I miss the most in bf5 is a hardcore mode

amber notch
#

If they change the TTK again

solid hinge
#

Gunplay isnt anything special tbh

amber notch
#

It really is

solid hinge
#

Not really

amber notch
#

The gunplay in BFV feels very solid and fluent

slow cradle
#

I miss the more positive spirit around the title from BF1. (or maybe it's just my twisted perception)

solid hinge
#

I dont really notice a difference between bf5 and bf1 when it comes to gunplay

#

Pistols feel like theyre made out of plastic now though

amber notch
#

What?

solid hinge
#

Incredible recoil and no punch

amber notch
#

Have you used the revolver?

#

Tf

compact oxide
#

Gunplay is incredibly different to BF1

patent kernel
#

This is not fare when i kill enemy i take just 2 bullets !!

compact oxide
#

What the hekk

solid hinge
#

Yeah ive used the revolver

amber notch
#

The gunplay is different compared to bf1

solid hinge
#

I dont see the difference personally

amber notch
#

And the revolver is a Two shot kill up to 12 meters

#

1 shot headshot iirc

#

Then the damage fall off is huge

compact oxide
#

BF1 was only good if you have a perfectly accurate gun

solid hinge
#

Ehh idk

amber notch
#

It is.

#

It says in the patch notes

solid hinge
#

Bf5 guns feel less accurate

compact oxide
#

Wtf

solid hinge
#

Like the lewis gun compared to bf1

#

Thing barely aims center mass when you fire lol

#

Jumps around like crazy

#

Even with all the stability specs

jolly quartz
#

You now have more recoil

compact oxide
#

They're literally all perfectly accurate they just have more recoil

jolly quartz
#

Instead of rng spread

#

Pistols apart from the Welby are lackluster though

amber notch
#

As we said, gunplay is different compared to bf1

jolly quartz
#

Anyhow got any idea why the armoury is gonna repeat what we just had for the part two weeks for another two weeks picard

magic smelt
#

I miss the scale of war the newer battlefields fail at

solid hinge
#

I dont feel it is tho

#

Not saying it isnt

#

But I dont feel it

slow cradle
#

I find myself hardly ever using my sidearm on BFV (probably due to the ttk/ttd), where was in BF1 I often had load of kills with the sidearm.

jolly quartz
#

Use smgs in bf1 then bfv then back again

#

Use SLRs

amber notch
#

@slow cradle because itโ€™s not ideal to use pistols

compact oxide
#

Tbh I find the sidearms are great

solid hinge
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Yeah I prefer the bf1 smgs tbh

amber notch
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They are basically a last resort

patent kernel
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All the game is good and the balance between guns ok , just add vote because most players quite when they see snow also the ammo of enemy it should be more when we take it not just 5 or 2 bullets ( do you understand?? )

jolly quartz
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They did make pistols a backup weapon

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Not a second primary

amber notch
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^

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They should never be put into that category

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Ever again

solid hinge
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Dont mind the damage on them

compact oxide
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I like using the luger and the P38 tbh

solid hinge
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They just feel bad

compact oxide
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You have more recoil

patent kernel
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Who i can write report for dice ?

jolly quartz
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I mean I didn't mind it cos each class had good unique sets and it get scout ptfo better

slow cradle
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Yea, because I or the enemy is already dead before the need raises for pistol usage

patent kernel
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For this issues

brisk field
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this game is just taking the piss at this point

amber notch
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But using the GLOCK was so fun on recon

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Wasnโ€™t it

jolly quartz
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But it was a bit ridiculous that people would run around with their sidearm as their primary

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glares at obrez

amber notch
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Ahh yes

solid hinge
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The glock actually felt alot like bf5 pistols feel like

amber notch
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The obrez

solid hinge
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Funny

jolly quartz
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You mean the Frommer stop auto for Assault?

brisk field
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im pretty sure i've captured more than 4 objectives in my last conquest map and the assignments apparently counted it as only 2

jolly quartz
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just what assault needed; another bullet hose

amber notch
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Run out of ammo in my magazine for my aek

jolly quartz
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Is it in one life though?

amber notch
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Swaps to glock

jolly quartz
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The g17 in hardline is the best pistol in a video game hands down though

brisk field
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im not capping 6 objectives in 1 life

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fuck that

jolly quartz
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It's not that hard

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I have a feeling one of them is that requirement for this week though

brisk field
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i had to cap 2 objectives in frontlines and it was kind of paoinful

jolly quartz
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Yeah I wouldn't do it in frontlines

magic smelt
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"Not that hard" yeah if you hide in Bush all game recapping 1 flag

jolly quartz
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Maybe hamda as the British and just flag run in a half-track

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Where was that implied

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If anything that would be harder cos of the flag contest mechanic

brisk field
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you only have to cap 6 times no lives and shit

jolly quartz
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And risky and boring

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Like I said flag run in a vehicle would be your best bet

patent kernel
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All the game is good and the balance between guns ok , just add vote because most players quite when they see snow also the ammo of enemy it should be more when we take it not just 5 or 2 bullets ( do you understand?? )

brisk field
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the thing is i've capped more than 2 objectives and the game for some reason didn't count them

jolly quartz
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I'd say Panzerstorm but that's likely to be ended by a tank sitting somewhere

warm harbor
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is the "kill or suppress 7 enemies in one life" bugged? I got it instantly on unlock without doing anything

brisk field
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aww fuck panzerstorm

jolly quartz
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Sometimes you need to play a match through the ToW menu

brisk field
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yeah same i just needed to kill someone to complete it

jolly quartz
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Maybe you did it in combined arms

magic smelt
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DICE have always sucked at assignments

jolly quartz
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Assignments including ToW ones count in it

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Just you don't get the exp

brisk field
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i did it in conquest

warm harbor
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i was in a conquest game, not combined arms

jolly quartz
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No idea

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Is it an early challenge?

magic smelt
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"Get 20 headshots with a sniper whilst jumping out a plane without pulling the parachute in 1 life" Reward: 200 CC

jolly quartz
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You can possible do it all in one match

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You forgot whilst prone whilst attacking a friendly objective

brisk field
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it says its on grand operations

magic smelt
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Let's all just go back to

jolly quartz
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Fuck those objective assignments biggest pain in the arse

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Not on console

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It has not aged well at all

magic smelt
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You console

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Oof

jolly quartz
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On with PC with 64 players maybe

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But not console

patent kernel
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Where the leader for this chat ? , i need just one who can contact with dice to tell them these issues

jolly quartz
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It's pretty bad

jagged vector
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This is a community discord, not a direct line to dice

magic smelt
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DICE listen to fans? Last time I checked they called them all uneducated

jolly quartz
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Map vote is awful personally and you scavnage more ammo as the light infantry role for assault

patent kernel
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How i can write my issues to dice ?

jolly quartz
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You shouldn't be able to get too much ammo back from dead bodies

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No they called the neckbeards that

patent kernel
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No it should

jolly quartz
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The ones with PhDs in ww2 history from watching Saving Private Ryan

mystic wolf
patent kernel
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It's not fare 2 bullets for sniper

magic smelt
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Idk about you but battlefield scale seems to be getting smaller. Less vehicles, less maps, less content, smaller maps

jolly quartz
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Funny we should've gotten that start of this chapter

magic smelt
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Armored kill on bf3

jolly quartz
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It was worded that way

magic smelt
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That was war

jolly quartz
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Ironic cos that was the most complained about dlc ever in the history of bf

amber notch
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That gamemode

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Jesus that was fun

magic smelt
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Armoured kill wasn't complained lol

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Close quarters was more complained

jolly quartz
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And I'm just sitting here waiting for all the locked cosmetics meh FeelsMeowMan dicepls

patent kernel
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So here just talking without any result

jolly quartz
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Exact opposite

jagged vector
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@patent kernel if you really want it fair, you shouldnโ€™t be able to scavenge any ammo if you were using 8mm Mauser and the enemy was using .303

magic smelt
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Not true at least on PC

jolly quartz
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Close quarters was equal if not second best DLC for BF3 with aftermath

magic smelt
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HAHAHA

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Good jok

jolly quartz
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Thats not my opinion that's the community's

magic smelt
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Evidence?

jolly quartz
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Not much we Can do; I personally don't like map voting and the scavangering is fine

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Go browse the BF3/4 forums

patent kernel
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@jagged vector ahaaa ok the fair is when you take 2 bullets ?

jolly quartz
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Well the recon can only carry so many rounds

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I think max sometimes is 25