M98b? Is that it’s name? It was good, but didn’t feel good. Ya know? Like had good velocity and stuff... but just wasn’t smooth
#battlefield-legacy-titles
pale rain
amber notch
KD > SPM
swift condor
A gun like that should feel and sound much more powerful than that
compact oxide
My KD is like 1.5 but I mostly care about getting great shots off
pale rain
Mine is only 1.3
compact oxide
If I feel great when I'm playing I don't care about my stats tbh
pale rain
But I don’t care about stats at all
swift condor
Oh yeah, come play on Xbox and tell me how you feel @compact oxide
pale rain
I’m on ps4
pale rain
Devil business
unkempt prism
Guys should I get BF V or Anthem kek
stoic breach
I use Kar98 and play objective 
unkempt prism
Why aren't both games pretty lackluster
stoic breach
No
unkempt prism
I have Battlefield 1 that I want to play again
stoic breach
BFV as a shooter doesnt fail to be a shooter
compact oxide
So play BF1 then? 😛
unkempt prism
No I have a choice between the two games for getting a laptop with a rtx 2070
stoic breach
If you play BFV you'll be sacrificing content for gameplay
unkempt prism
I already own BF1
stoic breach
BF1 has more to do but BFV has better gameplay
pale rain
Was a joke lol
compact oxide
stoic breach
Destiny but with less content and more bugs
compact oxide
It's better than destiny though, and I put like 300 hours into that
swift condor
Yeah sound about right
bronze grotto
ur welcome
twilit pelican
21- march 1st then
jagged vector
You have until Thursday morning
twilit pelican
That would be the 28
But if theres 4 days left and its 25th today it would be march 1st
stoic breach
For the archer?
twilit pelican
Yes theres a time frame when you open the tides of war in the top left corner
stoic breach
It's actually decent but situational I feel
jagged vector
The new ToW starts on Thursday morning, about 5am EST. So the previous (archer) ToW ends just before that.
stoic breach
Ross Rifle
jagged vector
Boss rifle
stoic breach
I cant wait
jagged vector
Saaaaame
stoic breach
Recon needs new shit
twilit pelican
When the new tides of war starts its usually 7 days left so from 21-28 but this guy said theres 4 days left so that would be march 1st from the 25th
limber anchor
I just played my first game of final stand lol
twilit pelican
Final stand is bad
stoic breach
I've played 2 games
limber anchor
Lol you’re crazy it’s hella fun
twilit pelican
Ive played 1 and it lags so bad
stoic breach
Lags
jagged vector
Morning of the 21 to the morning of the 28
stoic breach
Your connection must have cooked it
limber anchor
I’m on Xbox and it didn’t lag for me
stoic breach
Same
limber anchor
It’s got me pumped for firestorm
jagged vector
4 days would’ve made sense if you were counting from yesterday morning
limber anchor
Devastation
twilit pelican
No
solid hinge
or
twilit pelican
The town
limber anchor
Arras
twilit pelican
Yes yes
twilit pelican
I played final stand on that map
limber anchor
Mine was on arras too lol it’s my favorite map
untold cliff
wait what
limber anchor
Most of our team got massacred at the church lol
untold cliff
is firestorm out?
stoic breach
Aight den
twilit pelican
There was like 15 people trying to fit into those houses
untold cliff
Is
limber anchor
No we are talking about final stand
stoic breach
Mike you didnt respond
untold cliff
the fck final stand in BFV?
twilit pelican
Day 4 of Grand ops
stoic breach
Yeah
limber anchor
It’s very rare lol
limber anchor
My experience was great
untold cliff
which operation is it
twilit pelican
@untold cliff it can happen in any of them as far as im aware correct me if im wrong
untold cliff
so if everything is exactly right there will be a 4th day
limber anchor
Yes
untold cliff
ive never had it happen and I have about 70 hours of just pure operations
twilit pelican
Mine was a couple months after the game had come out though
untold cliff
smh
limber anchor
It’s intense as fuck lol
twilit pelican
They may have polished it up
untold cliff
they need to make it happen more
stoic breach
Final Stand shouldnt have ammo and health crates
twilit pelican
Reminded me of search but with 64 people
untold cliff
cricket bat ftw
limber anchor
@twilit pelican that might be why then
limber anchor
I really can’t wait for firestorm
untold cliff
1 life in games makes everything so much more intesne
limber anchor
Me too
swift condor
Yeah but if you die as the round ends its sad
stoic breach
Could you imagine final stand in russia
limber anchor
@untold cliff I’m telling you it’s intense as fuck lol
untold cliff
fucking up has its toll and it makes sense
limber anchor
@stoic breach Stalingrad
stoic breach
Ye
twilit pelican
@swift condor its alright we'll get' em next time
stoic breach
Stalingrad
untold cliff
I've gotten really good at the game and I want to get to play the final stand now
rock out another 55 killstreak
swift condor
My one and only time I get to play it and I'm was dead the entire time 
untold cliff
im gonna try
and get that shit
as assault
actually no as SUPPORT
and nae nae with slugs or mmg
limber anchor
They spawned tanks in the middle of the map so that was cool also
untold cliff
I walk and run with MMG
twilit pelican
The circle shrinks fast
untold cliff
im a god
swift condor
I died to a KE7 three seconds before which gives me nightmares
untold cliff
I dont lay down with the bipod
stoic breach
Yeah
limber anchor
@swift condor man the KE7 will give me ptsd in the future lol
stoic breach
In deathmatch these two clan dudes were camping and one had a fully chrome KE7
That was disgusting
untold cliff
mint is better than gold
limber anchor
I’ll shred em with my mg42
stoic breach
No
limber anchor
I want the leaf camos that were in the trailer
jagged vector
Inb4 20k cc leaf skins
stoic breach
I feel cool at the top of the leaderboard in Battle of Hannut with a 50 bomb and then I realise I'm going 53-47 
limber anchor
I’ll buy that shit instantly lol
untold cliff
id buy that shit
midnight nimbus
> complaining about the KE7
lol
untold cliff
bushmonstering needs to come back
stoic breach
Can I get my Bush von Zorn ghillie german
limber anchor
That mg42 in the trailer was dope
bronze grotto
arras-colored ghillie suit
stoic breach
The KE7 is just fucking annoying now
bronze grotto
mm
swift condor
Is there an issue? @midnight nimbus
stoic breach
Why would you not complain about seeing it every 2 seconds
bronze grotto
ke7
not being a bren magdumper
stoic breach
Its not OP but its frustrating
bronze grotto
or even lewising
midnight nimbus
if KE7 got buffed to launch values, I still wouldn't use it
it was never that good
swift condor
Can you even magdump a Bren accurately?
limber anchor
@midnight nimbus it was a monster
bronze grotto
you just need to control the vrec
bronze grotto
it becomes lasery as long as you can keep vrec down
stoic breach
Didnt make it any less annoying
midnight nimbus
I would never take beta StG over MAS
swift condor
The fact that it can compete with any weapon up close and far away was frustrating
midnight nimbus
it was annoying bc the game was new and it was the default weapon
lol
it couldn't compete with anything at all ranges
swift condor
Really?
midnight nimbus
like it's still 568 RPM and has the same exact damage model as all other LMGs
solid hinge
it had fast fire by default and it pooped on the sten and lee as default weapons
limber anchor
The only guns that can compete at every range are the assault class rifles
midnight nimbus
if you have an SMG and you lose to a KE7 up close that's your fault
KE7 rapid fire is still only 635 RPM
limber anchor
SMGs were ass lol
swift condor
I've seen some BS moments with that gun so I'll stick to believing it's somewhat frustrating
stoic breach
I had a ZK and I lost to a bipodded KE7
solid hinge
Thats 100 more than the sten
midnight nimbus
and SMGs still had way better hipfire
swift condor
Thanks
solid hinge
and that was back when smgs were Really shit
midnight nimbus
if you have an SG 1-5 and you lose to the KE7 up close, that's entirely on you
dude the SMG buffs since launch aren't that big
at all
the biggest buff was to hipfire
changes to spread were relatively minimal
and don't affect most SMGs much
limber anchor
The only good smg right now is the ZK
stoic breach
Pulling up comparitive statistics doesn't change the fact that the KE7 is annoying
swift condor
It's no use
fluid tusk
stoic breach
Its weaker, but I'm not going to think whoever is using it has more skill
swift condor
@stoic breach he was a developer at DICE
limber anchor
Bf3 was the best BF don’t @ me
midnight nimbus
it's a middle of the road LMG
it's like being annoyed at dying to the M416 in BF4
swift condor
I still do lol
stoic breach
Actually curious, what did you work on at dice?
swift condor
He doesn't, it was a joke
limber anchor
He was a janitor
swift condor
stoic breach
Now I feel foolish 👺
midnight nimbus
who
limber anchor
Lol
stoic breach
Oh well, my bad
swift condor
That got me @limber anchor
limber anchor
My dad works at Epic I can give you all free vbucks
solid hinge
I'm annoyed at it cause it was everywhere when i started playing and i had the most one frame deaths to it
midnight nimbus
man working in vidya must suck tbh
solid hinge
Usually by some dude back proning in a corner
midnight nimbus
KE7 didn't disproportionately cause more one frame deaths than other guns either
it was just common bc it's a starter gun
limber anchor
@solid hinge most of my one frame deaths come from the mg42 now lol
midnight nimbus
KE7 syndrome would be 100% solved by letting people pick their starter gun
swift condor
People still abuse the weapon anyway
solid hinge
I know statistically and stuff it wouldn't, but I counted each time it happened and it was that one more than anything else
midnight nimbus
people just use the gun
swift condor
Not as bad now but it sure as hell was before
midnight nimbus
not abuse it
solid hinge
which is probably a curse from god or something
stoic breach
The KE7 is basically an itch you scratch but then comes back later
It's annoying and thats it
limber anchor
@solid hinge lol
midnight nimbus
people pick it bc it's a versatile gun, and that's fine
better at range than FG, better up close than Bren
and that's perfectly ok
solid hinge
so Battlefield Legacy voice channel is for anything older than BF1? cuz i play BF:BC2, BF3, and BF4 mostly
swift condor
I'm very sorry for having an opinion
limber anchor
And better than the smgs at close range
swift condor
I'll go back to the basement now
limber anchor
@solid hinge it should be lol
midnight nimbus
if you have an SMG and you lose to LMGs up close idk what you're doing
midnight nimbus
^ you're getting outplayed if you have an SMG and lose to an LMG
solid hinge
depends on the smg and lmg
swift condor
Does
limber anchor
I used to use the mp40
midnight nimbus
unless you're going 514 RPM SMG vs left spec FG42 at like <5m
limber anchor
And the sten
swift condor
We aren't all as god tier as you @midnight nimbus
limber anchor
@swift condor not to toot my own horn but I’m pretty close lol jk
swift condor
Outgunning the suomi with the liberator
solid hinge
i swear, some time ago i had a friend who bought BF4 on his pc to try and leave CoD. he said its too "unrealistic" and that CoD is for "more serious players" 
midnight nimbus
I'm not super amazing at the game, I can just separate out instances where I get outplayed and I don't get madcuzbad
swift condor
I'm still trying @limber anchor
limber anchor
Haha
midnight nimbus
BO4 is a much tougher and sweatier game than BF on PC @solid hinge
swift condor
We are not worthy
midnight nimbus
you can kick back and play BFV real casually and do well
limber anchor
Cod is a much sweatier game anyway
midnight nimbus
you can't do that at all in BO4
solid hinge
@midnight nimbus that was back in the CoD Ghosts days
you can tell who the real pieces of shit are when they camp in tanks at the edges of maps
fucking pieces of dog shit
strong parrot
mike needs a time out from bfv again
limber anchor
@solid hinge tell me about it lol
midnight nimbus
well people wanted to remove mortars, so that's what you get
solid hinge
@strong parrot im only 5 minutes in
limber anchor
Lol
solid hinge
now its even worse
somehow the cod invaders have somehow came up with a even shittier meta
stoic breach
Aight den
limber anchor
Very unpopular opinion I want mortars back and gimme back my bf3 suppression lol
midnight nimbus
BF community reeeee-ing about CoD is the worst
I mean people just wanna try new games jeez
solid hinge
1200rpm ree
stoic breach
I just dont find CoD fun but I don't talk about it much
limber anchor
250 round mag ree
midnight nimbus
I logically want suppression back, but the lack of suppression is kinda fun
because MMGs git punished
limber anchor
I just feel it should be more
midnight nimbus
whip out that AG m/42
stoic breach
Snipers arent that bad in BFV
midnight nimbus
there's your sniper/MMG solution
stoic breach
big thonk
midnight nimbus
dude this is the worst sniper rifles have been in modern BF
stoic breach
You must suck then
solid hinge
tumors in the wider meta of cancer
limber anchor
It’s easy to out snipe people with the G43
stoic breach
Yeah
midnight nimbus
only thing that keeps them relevant is health attrition
stoic breach
Snipers do like 60 damage
stoic breach
Mike
solid hinge
In this game?
fringe locust
🚀🚀🚀🚀
solid hinge
the fast healing means the weaker bolts can be a 3btk sometimes
midnight nimbus
yes, if you're not an idiot, semis are way better
limber anchor
I liked the bf1 sweet spot mechanic
midnight nimbus
sweet spot gang 😎
solid hinge
Throwing knives are fun!
midnight nimbus
after the rainbow glint changes, sweet spot was perfect imo
cold yoke
i miss my KE7 automatic sniper rifle 😦
limber anchor
My favorite sniping bf is probably bad company 2
solid hinge
@daring ferry Snipers are worse then they were than Bf1 based upon mechanics. The Sniper glint is like a huge target, any Semi can outdo you. Also, the sweet spot crutch mechanic has been removed. So everyone who though they were good has lost a 1 shot crutch
And the sweet spot was shit
I hated that
midnight nimbus
the only bad thing about BF1 sniper rifles was how high non sweet spot base damage is
midnight nimbus
sweet spot crutch lol
stoic breach
I wish snipers in BFV had high close range damage
solid hinge
and all they fucking stand for
midnight nimbus
you can literally look at the sniper and know if you're about to get OHKed
solid hinge
i mean.. it has a bayonet on it so technically..
stoic breach
At least let me quickscope 1m away
midnight nimbus
rainbow = you're fucked
icy sluice
Bayonet's still good imo
midnight nimbus
white = you're fine
icy sluice
I use it more in BFV than I do in BF1.
stoic breach
Same
limber anchor
I still haven’t gotten a bayonet kill in bfv lol
midnight nimbus
if you wanna OHK up close, just use slug shotguns
solid hinge
It's a good panic button!
stoic breach
Cant slug as recon
midnight nimbus
CQB OHK snipers are so stupid
icy sluice
Slug Shotguns are pretty good, I picked one up earlier
midnight nimbus
why do you need to play recon
solid hinge
Can’t use slugs on recon
midnight nimbus
support is more versatile anyways
solid hinge
I mean
stoic breach
I wanna ptfo with a bolt action :(
swift condor
Recon gets an M30 drilling
solid hinge
Any class is versatile in anything
midnight nimbus
lol
solid hinge
It’s the player
limber anchor
It does?
midnight nimbus
classes are the least versatile they've ever been
swift condor
No
solid hinge
So get good
midnight nimbus
and this is with all the versatility features of BFV
compact oxide
solid hinge
Y’all need to let me finish my roast you know
compact oxide
Snipers are not very versatile
solid hinge
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Bet
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I make snipers work
compact oxide
As do I
limber anchor
The assault class is versatile
swift condor
its getting hot in here
midnight nimbus
assault gets attritioned so much
solid hinge
Indeed
midnight nimbus
unless you run like bigmag Turner, G1-5, or 1916
amber notch
interesting spam
compact oxide
I only play objective with snipers but they're nowhere near as versatile as the other classes
amber notch
stoic breach
Chad 1916
swift condor
Oh shit
midnight nimbus
you get so much ammo from the attrition pouches with those guns
solid hinge
picking up a dead person ammo pouch with light infantry 1916 gives you twenty shots
TWENTY
midnight nimbus
Turner gets 14
compact oxide
Hell medic ain't versatile unless you've got the MP34
midnight nimbus
G1-5 gets like 24(?)
limber anchor
Lol give me a g43 and a piat that’s a easy 50 kills
swift condor
But no panzerfuast ammo
midnight nimbus
only problem with the AG m/42 is how fast you run out of ammo
bc attrition pouches only give you like 8 rounds
and it's a click fast gun
limber anchor
M1a1 gets 30 with the extended mag
swift condor
Nobody uses the EMP or Mp34 sadly @compact oxide
solid hinge
emp is a weird gun
swift condor
Not a lot of the time anyway
limber anchor
I kinda like the mp34
midnight nimbus
EMP has too much horizontal recoil for what it is
swift condor
I've been using the MP34 and it's really nice
compact oxide
@swift condor I do, but I main the slow ZK now on medic
solid hinge
yeah
midnight nimbus
its specs are versatile, but the RoF is bad for a versatility pick
solid hinge
it only has a little rpm boost but it feels like it's less accurate than the 540 guns
solid hinge
i mean like considerably
swift condor
I'm just trying some weapons that I never use or rarely see others use
solid hinge
not enough to justify the small rof boost
midnight nimbus
but it has bad horizontal recoil for what it is
spread differences always justify the RoF boost
that's how the formula works
solid hinge
I love how there’s these numbers
That I barely dollow
Follow
And just learn a weapon and make it good lol
midnight nimbus
scaling RoF always results in properly scaled spread increase
it's a real big brain design
solid hinge
Indeed
solid hinge
I just don't pick medic at all
midnight nimbus
I only play medic on Rotterdam breakthrough
wild oxide
After I got Medic to 20 I really haven't touched it all except for assignments and TOW of course.
solid hinge
Input STG44
It also has a thousand camping recons constantly getting headshotted and ragdolling behind cover
midnight nimbus
you need a gun to shoot the people playing hide and seek in the rocks
naive sable
Anyone here still play hardline on ps4?
compact oxide
@midnight nimbus not picking medic on those other maps is a problem imo
solid hinge
Not on PS4 sorry
midnight nimbus
why is not picking medic a problem
solid hinge
free revives!
compact oxide
Because nobody else picks medic for the same reason
midnight nimbus
let your teammates revive
chilly marten
@solid hinge HALLO? SANITATER
solid hinge
How I boosted to colonel
midnight nimbus
I only revive friends I play with
swift condor
If everyone said that there would be no medics
swift condor
K
compact oxide
@midnight nimbus so you'd Rez me as Ingrid?
midnight nimbus
if it's convenient
thing is medic revive is so slow
most the time I could just get away with a squad revive in scenarios where i actually revive
swift condor
What?
midnight nimbus
I miss previous BF revives
solid hinge
Instant jab
midnight nimbus
where you could quick revive people for bait
swift condor
That sentence made no sense
solid hinge
Goes against the attrition thing I guess
midnight nimbus
and you're not punished for wanting to help your team
i'd revive more if reviving a support would give you ammo for example
solid hinge
The supports ideally would give you the ammo
midnight nimbus
ideally
tender tundra
hello
solid hinge
I wish medic crates were viable
midnight nimbus
bring back BFH resource grab plssss
midnight nimbus
genuinely painful to not have BFH resource grab in BFV
wild oxide
BFH had a ton of good mechanics that were flushed down the drain cause it wasn't received well
midnight nimbus
initial sales were better than BFV's tho
solid hinge
I mean we can make a statement and return to Hardline
i don't like the grab mechanic honestly
Lol
I just want to drop crate and auto heal
Cause theirs no benefit to using med crate
midnight nimbus
grab mechanic is excellent and there's no genuine argument against it in a PVP environment
tender tundra
limber anchor
The grab mechanic would only work in firestorm imo
solid hinge
Grab worked well, but as @limber anchor has said, it’d probably only see a lot of use in firestorm
midnight nimbus
in a teamwork shooter, your teammates should always be a benefit to you, and not a detriment
or at the very least, teammates should never be a detriment
solid hinge
Pft they can always be if they had
Bad
Like spam firing MMG on vehicle to no where
So it blows cover and position.
midnight nimbus
vehicles should only have one seat
solid hinge
it makes it feel slightly less personal to me
midnight nimbus
aside from transport vehicles obv
midnight nimbus
sitting in most vehicles as a non driver is an idiot trap
solid hinge
teammates being a detriment is like
every bf match
BF4 has competent players
I can bail my tank and repair without fear of my tank being stolen
Same for helicopter
^
On BFV, one in a million lol
that's very true
midnight nimbus
if you're accurate enough to be a tank MG gunner, you're more helpful to your team playing infy in BFV
solid hinge
It happens with every hit game that comes out for the series
bf4 you can really trust your squad mates for stuff like that
midnight nimbus
BF4 AH should've been one seat as well
midnight nimbus
just have an NPC in the gunner that you mind control
solid hinge
no
limber anchor
One seat vehicles is dumb af imo lol
solid hinge
Why make a two seater chopper 1 seat
Essentially
As much as I’d like to control all of it
because capitalism
midnight nimbus
so you don't give up half your DPS if you don't happen to have a gunner
which is often out of your control
solid hinge
Just swap lol
vehicles are supposed to be team efforts, typically
ain't that the point of a team based game
exactly
Back then it was easy because of instant swap
midnight nimbus
one seat AH = automated swapping
solid hinge
Now it’s a long process
the one asshole sitting in a mortar truck the whole match is worthless
AAARRRGGGGG
midnight nimbus
you don't need to share a vehicle for a "team based game"
naive sable
Wait do people still complain about women in this game?
solid hinge
i'll always opt for whatever has more seats
I mean this whole tank problem happened in Bf1
What kinda tank has one person in
Of vehicle problem
light tank
Bob Semple
in bf1, at least
@solid hinge
midnight nimbus
aside from the BF1 landship and arguably (kinda) BF3/4 tanks, you're wasting your time if you're in a tank with your squad
solid hinge
i said tank not joke
midnight nimbus
BFV tanks are one man operations
midnight nimbus
anyone in a tank who isn't the driver is wasted manpower
solid hinge
If I solo tank I have to long distance
earnest flume
not really
solid hinge
Cause assault spam is a thing on console
earnest flume
depends on the map
solid hinge
having a gunner in bfv doubles your frontal fire damage and provides an extra cone of vision if your turret isn't pointing forwards
midnight nimbus
if you're competent enough to not instantly die in the gunner seat, you're more helpful being a support rep monkey in the back
with an LMG to shoot at people your tank can't cover
solid hinge
i don't see how having no vantage point is a benefit
midnight nimbus
while providing him with insane hp/s
solid hinge
the support can always jump out and heal
I’m just lost at how this went from a team based game
midnight nimbus
jumping out and healing is too slow
solid hinge
To a “let me do everything myself”
midnight nimbus
and the tank MG isn't stronger than primaries anyways
solid hinge
Just do combined arms
still feel like the healing is too strong
This wasn’t a problem in Bad Co 2
There was actual team play then
Via multi and coop
stoic breach
It depends on your squadmates
solid hinge
Always does
midnight nimbus
teamplay is being able to do things by yourself, while additional teamwork only serves to improve you
solid hinge
But once the newest game comes
What happens?
tank MG has no screen jolt and infinite ammo
All the jerks move on
midnight nimbus
teamplay isn't being useless unless people decide to cooperate
solid hinge
And you can have a 80% of competent people being in
midnight nimbus
dude support players have infinite ammo
solid hinge
and it's rare other vehicles kill you fast enough for jumping out to not be viable
you still gotta reload!
Reloading isn’t a big deal for normal
midnight nimbus
downtime is hardly excessive
solid hinge
I’m a HC boy
midnight nimbus
you're more useful as on demand rep monkey
solid hinge
hardcore is the only way to play
Cause I like long distance 1 shot sniping lol
Indeed @solid hinge
it's why i'm still waiting on custom bfv servers
Same
stoic breach
Hardcore V1 rocket 
solid hinge
I want to actually be sneaky lol
but yeah, unless it's 200% damage, i can't enjoy a match
midnight nimbus
and you're going to live longer because you're not the easiest kill possible for anyone with a brain who sees you
solid hinge
Go Solid Snake
soldiers aren't bullet sponges, i shouldn't need to mag dump to get a single kill
midnight nimbus
I can probably count the number of times I've died to a vehicle MG gunner on one hand
stoic breach
200% damage CSRG in BF1 was good
midnight nimbus
but I always look for that free kill
solid hinge
Yeah that’s why I do HC on BF4, and Hardline
Can’t find a full HC server for Bf1 console
there's 2 on pc
I'm talking about front gunner btw
Not top gunner
[leb] and [more] clans
midnight nimbus
front gunner is still meh
solid hinge
Ah I see
top gunner i agree with you pretty much completely
There’s a huge populace in BF4 console still for HC
it's very lively on pc as well
midnight nimbus
your weapon lacks the ability to get assaults from other angles
onyx blade
Game kicked me couldn't rejoin server until I relaunched the game then it happened again now can't connect to servers but Origin is fine fix plaz
midnight nimbus
any vehicle MG seat = idiot trap
limber anchor
Bf4 is still very populated at least on Xbox
midnight nimbus
the vehicle MGs aren't very accurate and have meme tier velocity
wild oxide
Yeah, most Battlefield games have a surprisingly long life span.
solid hinge
old clan of mine still plays on a full bf3 server
limber anchor
Bfv won’t if we don’t get RSP😡😡
limber anchor
I wish I could still play bf3 but it’s so bad on consoles lol
limber anchor
It definitely didn’t age well
midnight nimbus
RSP is why I refuse to play BF4 nowadays
stoic breach
BF1
midnight nimbus
and why I don't play BF1 much
solid hinge
#ApocalypseOperation
Fulfill Apocalypse DLC
only downside to bf4 these days imo is the players still around are pretty... elite
limber anchor
What! Lol@midnight nimbus
solid hinge
if you're new it's very hard to keep up
wild oxide
Why are there so many custom servers in BF4 with rules against swearing is the real question?
midnight nimbus
custom servers are so garbage
stoic breach
Depends what the opinion is
midnight nimbus
the ones without stupid rule sets kick you for stats or have badmins
strong parrot
can hear your soldier say fuck
cant type fuck in chat
limber anchor
@solid hinge I swear I was about to say the same thing lol
stoic breach
Admin abuse is a real problem with rsp sometimes
midnight nimbus
no explosives locker = eternal stalemate
limber anchor
@solid hinge aw man I loved the gol
solid hinge
So I mean just talk to the admins and see lol
midnight nimbus
kill admin = ban
wild oxide
Say shit in chat once
Server Admin: "This is your last warning."
solid hinge
@stoic breach okay that's a fair criticism
brisk field
i love smegma
solid hinge
there are some very trigger happy admins out there
midnight nimbus
RSP allows people to implement a plethora of rules to just create an awful and unbalanced experience
solid hinge
@limber anchor GOL is amazing on HC Metro. I was able to go like 50-1 so it was great.
brisk field
i think dadmins a pretty good dude
midnight nimbus
only thing I like about RSP is the occasional pistol only server
solid hinge
it also allows people to implement minor changes to make the game better
limber anchor
@solid hinge I miss metro 😔
solid hinge
like in bf1, there's a server where everything is the same, except all weapons do 200% more damage
midnight nimbus
what custom server is actually better
solid hinge
which is fun as hell
midnight nimbus
200% damage mode is incredibly boring and easy
run around and insta kill people with RSC
stoic breach
RSP for clans is good
solid hinge
well half damage sounds incredibly boring to me
stoic breach
Public RSP can be good or bad
limber anchor
I want my 24/7 1000 ticket panzerstorm
midnight nimbus
not to mention how weapons are balanced around 100% damage
200% throws it out the window
stoic breach
Reduced tank spawns on Panzerstorm
solid hinge
it becomes negligible
limber anchor
more tank spawns lol
solid hinge
I feel like KHT looks at stats to much
Tell me
The worse weapon in the game @midnight nimbus
Since your the numbers guy here
limber anchor
More plane spawns as well
midnight nimbus
remember when DICE tried 0.85x damage in BFV and annihilated weapon balance? that balance makes 200% look good
solid hinge
With your google doc, worse gun in BFV
stoic breach
I dont think its worth complaining about 200% damage playlists really, they arent official and you can ignore them
midnight nimbus
idk prolly Sten
midnight nimbus
or actually bolt actions
solid hinge
With any other weapon
midnight nimbus
remove it
solid hinge
quick let's complain about something else
midnight nimbus
bolt actions and shotguns are probably the worst guns in the game
solid hinge
bloom is too strong
limber anchor
I never got killed by an emp so I assume it’s the worse
stoic breach
If you had players standing out in the open in a chess scenario the sten would be crap, but if you're in a bush it doesnt matter what gun you use
midnight nimbus
EMP is ok
wild oxide
Where are my Inquisitor Swords? I want to duel with 15 other people
solid hinge
Nerf guns
limber anchor
@solid hinge you forgot the main complaint
solid hinge
I want to use bows and swords
Cause bullets to good yeet
Ngl I wanted to take this conversation seriously but I can’t anymore
midnight nimbus
1916 = best for bush camping
limber anchor
@solid hinge the WAHMEN IN MY VIDYA
wild oxide
No joke, the Inquisitor Swords in Hardline were fun as hell, just ambush some guy on one of the night maps
solid hinge
no boobs allowed
wild oxide
CLANG
limber anchor
Also where tf is my katana
solid hinge
Especially if you got premium
limber anchor
Hardline was a good game idc what anybody says
solid hinge
i'm not gonna lie i forgot hardline even happened
midnight nimbus
Hardline is my favorite BF
limber anchor
The gun bench was awesome
stoic breach
I never had the chance to play it
midnight nimbus
by a decent margin
solid hinge
Hardline was good
It had such a huge hate train that ruined it
Like I get the whole money factor was a pain
Which if was imo
stoic breach
I got my xbox one a few months after BF1 released so I never played hardline
limber anchor
I actually liked the money system
stoic breach
I dont wanna buy it if I have no one to play with
solid hinge
Like just make hardline great again
midnight nimbus
Hardline has the best progression and customization, and it's the best BF infy experience
solid hinge
A lot of people on Xbox play it still
limber anchor
To bad it’s dead tho I miss it
solid hinge
It isn’t vehicle dominated
So no tanks
bf1 is pretty fun
i pretty much only use bolt actions though
limber anchor
I hate bf1 lol
untold cliff
it was fun but everything was broken
stoic breach
BF1 is so clunky now though
untold cliff
yeah
solid hinge
if not bolt action, i need a high rpm weapon or a good shotgun
Nothing was broken in hardline lol
stoic breach
I played it the other night and couldnt get back into it
limber anchor
I’ll never play it ever again
stoic breach
I used M1912/p.16 memegun in BF1
solid hinge
They removed sliding?
stoic breach
Do you like an automatico that does more damage and takes 8 seconds to reload
limber anchor
No it’s just nerfed
solid hinge
i actually very much dislike the automatico
solid hinge
thing feels like it mag dumps in half a second
midnight nimbus
Automatico is too mediocre
stoic breach
For me
midnight nimbus
by the end of the game at least
fervent bronze
Anihhilators so fun
stoic breach
I preferred the old one despite it not being very good
stoic breach
It wasnt super competitive
solid hinge
Well
stoic breach
It was satisfying though
solid hinge
I mean I mastered it lol
I can’t use the new one though
To me it was the SAR-21 of that game
limber anchor
Nothing beats the ACE-23 that gun was insane
midnight nimbus
ACE is for people who aren't hipster enough for L85A2 or M16A4
L85A2 is the best gun in BF4
solid hinge
input an-94
God no it’s not
You must be new to BF4 :^)
L85A2 is easy to counter
Lmao
midnight nimbus
no, L85A2 has great base stats and can take the best attachment combos
midnight nimbus
AN-94 isn't even true 1200 RPM within the burst
solid hinge
I can make the SAR a sniper
limber anchor
The ace was a monster but nothing beats my Mtar that’s my baby
solid hinge
loved the bullet drop and you had to compensate
Ik that lol
The AN-94 isn’t a true 1200 RPM burst
midnight nimbus
L85A2 = flat upgrade over the ACE 23 and M416 at the cost of a worse reload
midnight nimbus
yes, that's the BF4 meta
midnight nimbus
watch the comp guys play
midnight nimbus
spray against good players, microburst at range
solid hinge
I did like 1 round and I outdid lol
Just burst fire
Seriously. Spraying isn’t god tier
midnight nimbus
burst firing is bad microburst
midnight nimbus
watch relaaa, he almost always sprays
midnight nimbus
in typical engagement distances, spraying is the best way to output DPS
solid hinge
aiming at his chest mind you
No?
If we do that the. Just a buckshot 870
Spray that with laser ;^)
midnight nimbus
would be meta if 870 weren't banned in comp
solid hinge
Indeed
midnight nimbus
and lacks ability at ranges where you can microburst
solid hinge
Should of said comp ;^)
equips any generic pistol
There’s literally thousand of ways to best the spray meta
The fact people still think it’s the main thing is sad
It really isn’t that hard to counter, like just aim for the head lol
With any burst fire gun you should win, save you miss or he shoots first
But even then you can recover from those
midnight nimbus
there's a reason why good BF4 players don't touch the AN-94
it's mechanically more difficult to use with no appreciable benefit
midnight nimbus
not being able to spray = you're frequently hitting your FSRM
solid hinge
I guess lol
If I can use the “mechanically more difficult to use” weapon
And outdo any of the “meta” or “god tier guns” as you’d probably call it
midnight nimbus
L85A2 best gun because you're at the most viable RoF in the game, and your FSRM is low enough to where you can take heavy barrel and microburst without affecting your hitrate
solid hinge
input AN-94, SAR-21
midnight nimbus
and you have flat out better performance than something like the AN-94
midnight nimbus
just because it's doable doesn't mean it's "best"
solid hinge
In like all situations so yeet
midnight nimbus
which is the point
proud lantern
I don't know whether or not to play bf5 rn
solid hinge
So if I did, I probably said it to counter you lol
midnight nimbus
I can outplay a MAS-44 user with a Sten in BFV
solid hinge
@proud lantern if there’s a new TOW then get started. If not then don’t
midnight nimbus
doesn't make the Sten better by any means
proud lantern
ok
solid hinge
Never said that lol
proud lantern
What is TOW
solid hinge
Don’t flip the argument lad
proud lantern
O nvk
midnight nimbus
that's the analogy to what you're saying
solid hinge
@proud lantern Tides is WR
solid hinge
No? So your finding other meanings
Lad take it literally
If you have to find analogies
solid hinge
Thanks lol
proud lantern
Hold on brb
midnight nimbus
AN-94 is better than L85 if you're talking reload time
midnight nimbus
in outputting damage down range, the L85 is the best gun in BF4 for the majority of engagements
solid hinge
I can say everything your saying about anything. Find it’s best and stuff
And to which I say False again
Nothing is best so stop saying it lol
At least make this entertaining
Like come on.
midnight nimbus
comp + stubby is the best attachment combo for the AEK
limber anchor
How about personal preference
midnight nimbus
the no attachments was a meme
performance downgrade for what the AEK is meant for
solid hinge
That’s literally what I’ve been trying to say @limber anchor
But once you say best
I have to go at you
Then I bantered
Which I still am so yeet
Cause AN-94 is best at everything
Fight me
proud lantern
K back
midnight nimbus
naked AEK is worse than comp stubby unless you're clicking at like 800 RPM or some shit
proud lantern
Also AN-94 was fun
solid hinge
An-94 is best fun
midnight nimbus
you gain an advantage that you can't actually use
solid hinge
And best gun
proud lantern
AEK is also good
proud lantern
brb again
midnight nimbus
AN-94 is gud fun though
limber anchor
What about the ak5c
midnight nimbus
AK5C not worth
limber anchor
I liked the scar h also
solid hinge
Dont it doesn’t always work
proud lantern
K