battlefield-legacy-titles

[terse lake]

pc

[chilly marten]

ricc

*fricc

[rocky verge]

imma go do the garnade challange

to much apex and forgot about the last challange i need

[solid hinge]

panzer 4 is good for being all purpose

[wind pendant]

did they rebalance the british tank?

or is british medium tank still superior in every way?

[real moth]

hey any fix for random crashes in bf5?

[solid hinge]

Technically the Valentine tank is worse if you don't upgrade the gun

The panzer 4 default gun has a big blast radius and pretty decent damage

[real moth]

so good for killing infantry?

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[real moth]

ayla

do u play bf5 on pc?

[solid hinge]

Goes well with getting skirts and case rounds on it too

Ps4

[real moth]

ok

[solid hinge]

Valentine default gun has not very good damage and inferior splash

They have different case rounds as well

[real moth]

do u think AP or a 70mm gun is better?

for killing tanks

[solid hinge]

Which vehicle?

[real moth]

i think it was american not sure tho

churchill perhaps

british*

[solid hinge]

Ohh the Churchill

The howitzer does a LOT of damage

[real moth]

thts wat i was thinking

[solid hinge]

It suffers from the low velocity though

[real moth]

mhm

[solid hinge]

But if you can hit who you're aiming at, you should win

[real moth]

not sure how much it would affect a tank tho

[solid hinge]

Especially if you're using HESH rounds

[real moth]

thats what it was

hesh

so hesh is better than ap?

for tanks?

[solid hinge]

Not normally, but you can only get HESH with the howitzer upgrade on the Churchill

Normally HESH gives more impact damage for less blast damage while AP rounds have a higher velocity, way more impact and basically no blast

[real moth]

will i have both the howitzer and the hesh rounds to use?

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[real moth]

see thats where i got confused

it said it had impact damage but how does that compare to penetration

er

velocity

[solid hinge]

Howitzer is the 3rd left upgrade and i think the hesh rounds are the 4th left

The howitzer makes the rounds so slow that the hesh shells aren't actually any slower

[bronze grotto]

archer velocity

cant fix engine

it feels like they're using prepatch stats for the 17 pounder

at least for the shell velocity

[solid hinge]

The only difference between the hesh rounds and the normal rounds for the howitzer is that the hesh has very little splash but LOADS of damage

[real moth]

17lb ?

ok so still AP would be superior for tanks then?

[solid hinge]

The archer has a 17lb cannon

[real moth]

damn

[bronze grotto]

i still can barely do shit since the archer's engine at the front and it gets critted on any shot

[real moth]

thats too much

wtf

[bronze grotto]

and i cant fix it lul

[real moth]

they put it in the front?

[solid hinge]

AP is better on any other tank, but the howitzer with HESH shells does more damage than anything other than the sturmtiger i think

[real moth]

cant u just drive backwards or park backwards

[bronze grotto]

no turret

[real moth]

wow

[bronze grotto]

its a valentine without a turret

[solid hinge]

The archer gun is so big they had to put it on the tank backwards

[real moth]

right

oh makes sense

damn

i wanna see that now

[solid hinge]

It's fun to use but you're super fragile

[bronze grotto]

the archer can't do jack to infantry without sniping them

getting close to use the coax is suicide

[solid hinge]

It has disappointingly small splash

[bronze grotto]

i only played it three times

i was afk and died with 0 kills the first two times

[real moth]

i love the splash on a tank, even unupgraded

i remember shooting into a building and killing like 4 ppl at once

damn i can only imagine a flak or blast upgrade

[bronze grotto]

and i only took down a tank and two kennedy seat machine gunners on the third try

[real moth]

so which would be the best tank to upgrade for like a close up, infantry killing tank?

i kinda am looking at that little tank

the fast one

[wind pendant]

one thing is sure, light tank = pure feeding on new grand ops

and yet people keep picking it

also, im pretty sure default rounds on archer do more damage than their upgraded variant

it seems utter dogshit and there was a reddit post about it

[bronze grotto]

tfw dice didnt bother checking if archer stats are up to date and correct

[real moth]

really salty

thats interesting

[solid hinge]

@wind pendant according to the stats the upgraded archer shells literally are gutted

[real moth]

the god damn stuka cannons man

they need to be gutted if anythingf

[solid hinge]

They do a third less impact damage and halved blast damage

The stuka cannons are ridiculous right now

Far too accurate

[real moth]

exactlky

i was confused as to who and how i was being shot

death from above and it was quick accurate fire

really no defense against it if ur on the ground without aa

this guy went like 40-2

glad to see someone else agrees i tried to tell dice about it but idk

[solid hinge]

Even the AA tanks die before the stuka does

And it kills bombers

Even if a fighter gets behind the stuka they just swap to the gunner seat

I feel like they should disable the gunner seat on it

[real moth]

ya thats actually a good idea

u shouldt b able to 1 man a plane

[solid hinge]

Yeah

At least on the cannon variant

[weak violet]

Just had the best game ever, in the pazerstorm i had gotten 46 kills and 1 death

My medium tank is now level 4 from that

:))

[real moth]

nice

im loving this new game mode

[weak violet]

Along with that there is a pretty big bug

Before the round starts you can drive your tank backwards

While everyone can't move

Can also turn left and right

[real moth]

theres so much going on, that it makes it easy to work together with other tanks and dominate, if u get shot, ur buddies see who shot u and take them out as u retreat or shoot back its really fun to be on the german side

[weak violet]

So in rush 3 of our tanks got and took and objective before the enemy could do anything

[real moth]

i noticed that

ppl r moving tanks as im frozen like wtf

how do u even start with a tank? do u just gotta b fast?

[wind pendant]

you can still reverse

during start up phase

[weak violet]

@real moth Yeah i usally help ya by smoking them so they can retreat, or going infront of them so you take the damage and they live

I also use the smoke to help push with my infantry

They should fix that bug

[real moth]

i coulda swore they said they did in the last patch notes

[weak violet]

Allows tanks to capture and kill the enemy on the objective before they can do anything

As you can run them over

Before the round starts

So pick a light tank and go backwards into the enemy spawn to get free kills

and then die cus light tanks suck right now

[real moth]

i never see an option to spawn with tanks when i start up

all i see is the 4 infantry roles at the bottom

[weak violet]

You gotta wait a bit

It will then show it

[real moth]

ight ill try that thanks

[weak violet]

To get into a tank keep clicking on the icon

Then the moment it shows up

Press enter

Thats how you get into a tank quickly

[solid hinge]

Light tanks have their niche, but it isn't on 6 v 6 tank maps

[weak violet]

Yeah, medium tanks work better

[solid hinge]

I'd pick the tiger if i was germans

[weak violet]

or heavy/tank destroyers

[solid hinge]

Probably Valentine as allied though

[weak violet]

I generally just stick with the medium tank

[solid hinge]

Valentine gets a nice selection of specs that all directly upgrade it's main gun

[weak violet]

Feel like the heavy tank is far too slow

[solid hinge]

Panzer 4 has more wishy washy specs

Valentine is also faster than panzer 4

[weak violet]

@solid hinge What upgrade path did you choose, as i currently find the pazer better

[solid hinge]

I think the panzer 4 is better at being an all rounder

I went Right middle right right on Valentine

[weak violet]

Hmmm ok, i choose left mid right right

[coarse thunder]

Valentine is the best medium tank in the game

[weak violet]

For the pazer 4 i choose all left

As the track protection feels great

[wind pendant]

i always go archer, land shots on other side of map

but tbh i dont think its more efficient than brit medium tank

with buggy ammo

[weak violet]

Oh boy do i hate the archers

In pazerstorm they and the churchil gun carrior are like everywhere

[wind pendant]

gun carrier is pure meme tier though

[solid hinge]

I went all left on the panzer too,but I'm considering going RRRM

[wind pendant]

even on panzerstorm

[solid hinge]

GC is a better sniper than the archer is

Bigger armour too

[weak violet]

What do you mean RRRM

nevermind

[coarse thunder]

Why do people even use the gun carrier

[weak violet]

I screwed up

[solid hinge]

Zimmerit, flares, turret speed and case rounds

The default panzer 4 gun has like tiger level splash radius

[wind pendant]

case rounds have such little range for OHK

[solid hinge]

Big for a medium tank

[wind pendant]

imo not that good

[solid hinge]

The panzer 4 case rounds have 24 pellets in them

[weak violet]

I mean are the case rounds even good?

[solid hinge]

Only two need to hit up close and 3 at a distance

Case rounds will generally kill any infantry you hit with them

Useful for peeking assaults

[weak violet]

I might go LLLM

Just to try those out

As i abuse splash damage

Althouhg i gotta say, in the 3 round of the new grand op

[solid hinge]

The long barrel panzer 4 has a higher velocity on the case rounds and they have less spread

Which is pretty neat

[weak violet]

If you take the sector the second one

Does not have the tank ammo station

As i could not find any?

So i ran out of ammo their, and i am wondering if dice forgot to put an ammo station there

[haughty pawn]

Hannut ?it has in every sector tank supply stations

[weak violet]

For the grand ops, i could not find any

[haughty pawn]

they can be on the other side of the map

depending where you spawn

use the full map to see them

talking about panzerstorm GO right ?

[weak violet]

Yeah the 3 round 2nd sector

[haughty pawn]

yeah there are sup stations

[neon loom]

Panzerstorm Go. Go out into the world and find tanks that you can battle with

[haughty pawn]

might been destroyed tho

1 is near the church iirc

[urban snow]

i heard that there were new guns?

[haughty pawn]

only the tow ones

[wind pendant]

trevor there are supp stations

[haughty pawn]

if you missed them you can buy them with CC

[wind pendant]

for the brits

you die if you try to resupply there

as germans

[urban snow]

damn

ive been doing apex recently, so apperantly i missed some goodies

[solid hinge]

god damn diece

[haughty pawn]

for hannut the StuG is really op on german side,with a good driver and gunner it's almost godmode

[torn willow]

did you mean

SICKO MODE

[solid hinge]

dear dice

[haughty pawn]

i never play medic there anymore,they really need a fucking huge buff,maybe as combat medic or smthing

[solid hinge]

stop putting all the tards on my team

[torn willow]

I idon't think dice can really help that

I mean, I think they can

I have no idea how coding for matchmaking works

Nah medics are fiiine

Actually, they could use another weapon class

Using SMGs are boring

[haughty pawn]

matchmaking = 16 recons min in the attacker team

[torn willow]

True

They don't even have any strageical effect, they just shoot people

Most recon, at least

[haughty pawn]

as attacker on hannut medic is horrible

best thing you can do is be a tank gunner lol

[solid hinge]

medic can't do anything other than spam smoke

[chilly marten]

smoke 👌

[haughty pawn]

yeah and if out of smoke,dead meat

[solid hinge]

takes about 50 smokes to get to the houses and then you get blown up

[chilly marten]

Smoke always saves me

[haughty pawn]

it's so freaking easy as defender

[chilly marten]

one of the reasons I love medic

[haughty pawn]

just put ups some mmg and spray and pray

minus the pray

if you compare the k/d,the defenders have usually twice as much or more kills

[solid hinge]

dice could fix MM p fucking easily

buy spreading out the tards and pros on each team

[haughty pawn]

don't mix lvl 2 with lvl 50 ?

[solid hinge]

so everyone slightly suffers less

or

or

BAN SNIPERS

[fathom pebble]

[chilly marten]

so even teams

could of said that

lol

[solid hinge]

my way is more me

[haughty pawn]

nah,limit them to like 1 in each match

[solid hinge]

or 4

at least

[chilly marten]

I wouldn't ban snipers

[haughty pawn]

or forbid them as attackers 😉

[solid hinge]

i would

[chilly marten]

there is always a spot for them

in maps

[solid hinge]

i'd track em down and make them pay for being tards

[chilly marten]

i personally don't like sniping

[haughty pawn]

imagine an attacker side without snipers,easy win af

[solid hinge]

but nope

[chilly marten]

but i think snipers being taken away

[solid hinge]

dice apparently has a big dick for snipers

[chilly marten]

would change

[solid hinge]

snipers are useful for mmg countering

[chilly marten]

^^

[haughty pawn]

but not half of the team

[solid hinge]

big dick for snipers
The bolts in this SUCK

[chilly marten]

I got a lot of kills with Recon

[haughty pawn]

it's always that fucking many

[solid hinge]

you wanna know what snipers and a unfinished kitchen have in common?

[chilly marten]

what

[solid hinge]

THEY DONT HAVE ANY COUNTERS

[chilly marten]

false

snipers do

and their counters are

[haughty pawn]

the other solution for snipers,they need to be suppressed,easy fix

[fathom pebble]

a 105mm shell in the face

[solid hinge]

gets two tapped by a semi at 400 metres

[lime elm]

is anyone playing bf4?

[chilly marten]

assaults with light infantry on the edge of the map with a semi auto

EZ

[solid hinge]

no

[astral brook]

I have had crap that has better ping than I get on north American servers on bfv

[solid hinge]

I think they should sort out how the attrition works

no ammo for snipers

EZ

[haughty pawn]

no idea what the intention was that snipers can't be suppressed,freaking stupid

[chilly marten]

bro

ok

no sniping

[solid hinge]

Some of the guns get a mad amount of ammo when you pick them up

[chilly marten]

*recon with Iron sights

EZ

[solid hinge]

"whats that you shit you ran out of ammo while camping in a bush being useless?"

"well fuck you no ammo."

[chilly marten]

*that one support guy who lends a ammo box

[haughty pawn]

and give them glint back for all range scopes ffs

[chilly marten]

EZ

[solid hinge]

same goes for armor mains who do jack shit

fuck them too

and bomber mains

fuck them

[charred heron]

So whoever made the flight physics in this game never even touched a flight game before

[solid hinge]

and fuck DICE.

[chilly marten]

Who know what sucks

*yo

[charred heron]

The flight physics are horrible

[solid hinge]

they couldve copied war thunders

[chilly marten]

When all 6 tanks in Battle of Hanut

[solid hinge]

BF1's was ok

[torn willow]

that's a pretty broad statement to make

[haughty pawn]

flying = who gets behind wins

[chilly marten]

Stay behind

[charred heron]

Well, they can't even get the basics right

[chilly marten]

instead of rushing

[torn willow]

saying that someone who yo uhaven't even met hasn't even touched a flighting sim before

[chilly marten]

while the infantry just dies

[charred heron]

Less speed = tighter cicles
Not making them 2x larger for some reason

[bronze grotto]

just copy war thunders flying controls lul

[torn willow]

have you ever considered that the game isn't suppossed to be a flighting simulator

[charred heron]

The game could at least try to not have the 2nd worst flight controls of any game

[bronze grotto]

whats the first

[chilly marten]

or

you can be that one guy

[haughty pawn]

nothing of the game has actually any realism lul

[torn willow]

How are they worse?

[chilly marten]

who always does a kamikazi

EZ

[haughty pawn]

in terms of physics

[chilly marten]

pls add japan

[charred heron]

@bronze grotto "We at Wargaming convert tank controls into plane controls"

[bronze grotto]

yikes

[chilly marten]

#addjapanforkamikaziesxdddd

[charred heron]

@haughty pawn They could at least try to make simple stuff at least a bit properly

[haughty pawn]

you can already kamikaze stuff !

[charred heron]

No reason to slow down unless a Stuka is exploiting again

[bronze grotto]

war thunder controls are easy to use IMO

[charred heron]

You don't take tighter turns, you don't really slow down anyways

[torn willow]

Slowing down in a plane is actually pretty useful in certain circumstances

[haughty pawn]

i get kamkazed all the time when i shoot to many planes out of the sky with an ground AA

[charred heron]

@torn willow Like a StuKa exploiting again

[chilly marten]

no

[fathom pebble]

casuals

[torn willow]

Slow down whilst flying alone
Switch to the bak gunner
Spray the fighter behind you

[chilly marten]

you need japan

tho

[fathom pebble]

[chilly marten]

for full effect

[hazy lynx]

You cant rate any plane controls until you play FSX or any other real flight simulator PERIOD

[solid hinge]

Jesus christ dice does your retarded MM know how to balance teams or do you have some idiot doing it manually

[charred heron]

War Thunder Sim plane battles in VR

I had it all

[solid hinge]

actually fire your guy who thought of it

tfw you're trying to kill a mosquito but it just speeds away from you

toss him off a bridge in a burlap sack or make him some cement shoes

because god damn it

slow down you fat target

[bronze grotto]

32vs8

[solid hinge]

he needs to suffer

[strong parrot]

oh no.... mike is playing again

[bronze grotto]

with the 32 player team having at least 2 clan squads

[charred heron]

"Clans are totally not breaking the game"

[fathom pebble]

yeh I hate mosquitos too. They make annoying noises and they fly fast

wait...

[torn willow]

HAHDAHAAA

[charred heron]

Mosquitos are annoying insects

[solid hinge]

at this point its self sabatage

[bronze grotto]

the 8 player squads are sub level 0 braindead newbies who just bought their first battlefield game

[solid hinge]

or dice is just cattering to brain dead snipers

[haughty pawn]

more than 4 clan members in a match?quit,next,easy,not worth wasting any time

[solid hinge]

making retarded sniper complimations for youtube

for their braindead subs

[torn willow]

I mean, it'd be kind of lenghtly to make it completely balanced if we base everyones stats off of eachother

AKA matchmaking for 64 people

[charred heron]

I'm baffled at how many players are unwilling to learn basic things in video games

[solid hinge]

and their brain dead girlfriends who i am sure are underage.

[charred heron]

Like not capturing objectives on purpose

Playing objective modes like TDM

[torn willow]

They only do it for the kills

they're braindead

[icy sluice]

So guys... we did it, we hit a quarter of a million brain dead girlfriends

[torn willow]

Yes

[haughty pawn]

lol

[chilly marten]

wow

ok

[icy sluice]

250,000 and still counting!

[chilly marten]

I have a challenge for snipers

use Iron Sight

EZ

[bronze grotto]

never forget frontlines tow week, where we have idiots who camp just outside the border of cap zones

[icy sluice]

If it's EZ, it's not a challenge

[chilly marten]

ok

[solid hinge]

i have a challenge for snipers

[chilly marten]

why ruin it

for me

[solid hinge]

Where's the vehicle body cosmetics

[haughty pawn]

same with breaktrough week

[solid hinge]

use another fucking class

[icy sluice]

Where's the flag on the back of the tanks?

[chilly marten]

yes use Medic

[solid hinge]

I can't use another class I need to clutch with sniper

[chilly marten]

Medic best class hands down

[solid hinge]

[icy sluice]

I PTFO with the RSC bayonet

[bronze grotto]

use medic and ends up not reviving or tossing meds

or even smoke

[haughty pawn]

ptfo with the sidearm,op anyways

[chilly marten]

except I always use smoke

and hand out bandages

[solid hinge]

hey dice can you also make the tank shells drop more

[bronze grotto]

smg tryhards that never do any medic functions

[chilly marten]

sometimes if I am not clear I won't revive

[solid hinge]

so retarded tank mains cant just CAMP ON THE EDGE OF THE DAMN MAP

FUCKING BRAINLETS

[chilly marten]

how about

add another tip

[torn willow]

They're afraid of dying

Which is kind of stupid cause there's like, 9 tank spawns on the battle of Hamlet

[chilly marten]

"push with everyone, and you will live longer"

[torn willow]

I'm calling it hamlet cause i don't know what it's called

[chilly marten]

Hannut

[torn willow]

Hannut

[chilly marten]

right:

*?

[haughty pawn]

me playing medic = end of the match rank 1,15-20k xp,k/d ratio 1-30 or smthing

[icy sluice]

Battle of Hannut

[solid hinge]

dice doesnt value teamplay anymore

[torn willow]

I'm pretty sure they do

[solid hinge]

they just care about codtards and their fucking KD

and fucking fortnite brainlets

[torn willow]

If they didn't they wouldn't have any of the class reliance as you see in the game right now

[solid hinge]

all snipers need are ammowhores

[torn willow]

Cause they're gat

[chilly marten]

y e s

[icy sluice]

Johnny Gat

[chilly marten]

hey if your a sniper

[bronze grotto]

cavalry class in bf5

[chilly marten]

and you got support people doing their job

EZ

[icy sluice]

I haven't used a bolt action in so long

[haughty pawn]

they just call in their own supply airdrop

[bronze grotto]

med and ammo pouch in one class

[chilly marten]

if your not squad lead tho

[haughty pawn]

2450 was it ?

[chilly marten]

no 666 points

i'm so mature

[haughty pawn]

you can go solo,no need to even squad

[chilly marten]

but you need them extra revives

in case if a medic isn't around

[weak violet]

I am now a medium tank main

56 kill game :))

[chilly marten]

I find using airplanes har

*hard

do you guys too?

[icy sluice]

After using practice range, no

[solid hinge]

mfw i am now digging a siege trench to central battery during breakthrough

p fucking metal

[haughty pawn]

learn to fly in combat,in practice range you learn nothing

even sitting as a gunner in a plane shows you more useful stuff

[chilly marten]

e

even as a fighter

i watch YT on planes

always make it look easy

yet I crash into a tree 10 sec later

[haughty pawn]

it's easy,but you have to get used to it

just keep going

once you get it it's really easy

[chilly marten]

ok

[haughty pawn]

you're on pc ?

[chilly marten]

no

xbox master console

[bronze grotto]

[haughty pawn]

cause on pc you need to bind pitch to space bar

makes flying like a 1000 % easier

[solid hinge]

god damn it

[chilly marten]

"killed in action" GG

[haughty pawn]

and start with bombers,they are easier to control

[solid hinge]

im sick and tired of these motherfucking snipers fucking up shit in this motherfucking game

that dice decided to fuck it all up by fucking DOING THIS SHIT

[haughty pawn]

if sniper could be suppressed they would be half the problem

[solid hinge]

fucking brainlet assault mains and the OP STG 1-5

[shrewd grove]

That's a lot of Fs

[solid hinge]

BUT THEY CANT

FOR SOME REASON

because dice made snipers their chosen people

[chilly marten]

make Medics the chosin one

[haughty pawn]

maybe you have to pray to them !

[solid hinge]

if you hate snipers, to dice thats like wearing a swastika arm band at a bamitzva or some shit

or a klan member burning a cross at a gay black wedding or some shit

[chilly marten]

a cross in a gay wedding?

[bronze grotto]

dice needs to make tankers chosen again like in bf5 and their arty trucks

[chilly marten]

🤔

you mean bf1

?

[solid hinge]

yes

[bronze grotto]

oh wow playing tanks reduced my iq already

[solid hinge]

BF1 had this strange and foriegn concept called BALANCE

[bronze grotto]

and using the krag*

[chilly marten]

ok

[haughty pawn]

i suck balls as recon,i only hit (maybe) a target that does stand still

[bronze grotto]

relatable

i'll hit a tree branch shooting flares too

[haughty pawn]

but no problem to 3 shot a moving with mas-44

[solid hinge]

hers my problem

team player

heals, supplys ammo

PTFOs

gets shat on by dice

the brainless fuckhead tard solo guy

doesnt even know what PTFO means

[bronze grotto]

what is ptfo

[haughty pawn]

my last game i was medic in a team with 3 recons

play the fucking objective

[solid hinge]

mainly plays cod but jamal is borrowing it in return for smashing the brainlets girl

[bronze grotto]

tfw 32 players with 1 medic in position 20 as a 11-9 smg tryhard with no revives or heals

[haughty pawn]

healing/reviving medics are hard punished by the game in terms of k/d ratio

[solid hinge]

now you think the dickheaded solo player whould get punished for being a soylo

but nope

its US team players that get punished

and fucked

and shat on

all because dice loves the dumb ones

don't pay attention to k/d ratio

i dont

never have

most matches i get 15/12

because i ride or fucking die

[primal sage]

Ride or fucking die?

Fellow Tanker?

[haughty pawn]

i got a 140k heals and 3k revives with my medic,k/d 0.6 !

[primal sage]

That's fine.

You did your job. Helped the team.

[haughty pawn]

22k resupplies

[primal sage]

Who cares about your fucking KD?

[solid hinge]

WHY THE FUCK ARE ALL THE TANKS HANGING BACK

COME THE FUCK ON

FUCK YOU DICE

[haughty pawn]

there are squads that kick you for that k/d,sounds stupid,but happens quiet often

[solid hinge]

fucking brainless cockless women driving for shitstain fucking loser fucking teammate shitcocks

FUCK

KD LOVING COCKHEADS

[haughty pawn]

get some fresh air lol

[solid hinge]

k

not my fault 90% of tank mains are pussies

actually

unironic

low IQ shits

and dice wants THESE for their player base

[icy sluice]

It's funny being the Archer tank on Panzerstorm Breakthrough and then take down like three tanks because I am just on the side

[solid hinge]

hey dice

wanna fix your game

stop

marketing

to shitheads

[strong parrot]

oh god mike, take a break from the game its not going your way again

[torn willow]

I... don't think that's how game mechanics are fixed

[solid hinge]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

or

rerelease BF1 but with BFV weapons, and skins

there

10/10 game

not even downward shit and clearcuck gaming could complain about it

[bronze grotto]

ppsh = hellriegel returning?

[solid hinge]

yes

Why are AP mines so inconsistent

Why

I set down two next to a prime sniper and he got up and walked away

Wtf

Did the same thing with a crouched support

[jagged vector]

Did mike shit himself again

[solid hinge]

He walked right over it

[shrewd grove]

Ye

[jagged vector]

If you wanna guarantee the AP mines going off for a direct kill

Shoot them to trigger

[solid hinge]

@jagged vector im just sick and tired of tards deciding how games are won and lost

and how insane team balancing has been

[jagged vector]

Team balancing is an issue for sure

[solid hinge]

is an issue

[jagged vector]

A lot of the casual players don’t understand or refuse to understand how to properly ptfo

[solid hinge]

because they are casuals

[jagged vector]

I was in a single Hannut GO today and it went amazing

[solid hinge]

entire teams filled with them

meanwhole whole fucking teams are manned by players who eat and shit all over them

its fucking unreal

[jagged vector]

First section, under 10 mins, second section steamroll, third section, steamroll

[solid hinge]

jesus christ

was your team full of chads?

[jagged vector]

Every objective destroyed and captured

It was beautiful

[solid hinge]

chad

as

fuck

[jagged vector]

Super fucking chad

[solid hinge]

god i wish i got that

but nope

[bronze grotto]

wow why do i keep getting enemies that do those

[solid hinge]

i get tards

armies of them

[jagged vector]

80% of my teams are really bad

[bronze grotto]

tfw losing airborne as defenders all the time

RE

[jagged vector]

But the wins aren’t that important to me as long as I got what I needed done

[solid hinge]

@bronze grotto because dice pays Bjorn who thinks making people angry with his shitty MM is hilarious

[jagged vector]

Wins are nice but not every game is balanced

[bronze grotto]

atleast it feels like there are less cheaters now

the blatant ones are going down

[solid hinge]

HOW DID I FUCKING DIE

DICE FIX YOUR FUCKING PLANE WRECK HITBOX

[bronze grotto]

i think frontline tow was where i last saw aimbots and damage boost tankers

[jagged vector]

Yay more anime pfp

Mike

Did you have a random accident during flying

[solid hinge]

h

[bronze grotto]

[solid hinge]

yes

[jagged vector]

I know what it is

[bronze grotto]

ammo pouch lul

[jagged vector]

You hit the enemy player’s ammo pack

[bronze grotto]

?

kek

[jagged vector]

It does more damage than tank rounds apparently

[solid hinge]

....

what

a burlap sack....

[bronze grotto]

next patch they'll make ammo pouches blast tanks like mines

[solid hinge]

can kill a BF-109....

what

100/100 realism diece

[jagged vector]

Yup, it’s happened so many times

[solid hinge]

too bad you also forgot the fucking Hurricane exists

[jagged vector]

I too want the hawker

[solid hinge]

WW2 history with mike

[jagged vector]

B/c you can get cannon pods like the Stuka on it

[bronze grotto]

watch as dice severely fucks up history anf forgets to add a mustang or jug with the americans

[solid hinge]

The hurricane was the RAF's most common plane of the battle of britain

the spitfire, while more famous was not as numerous

[coarse thunder]

I didn't know you could shoot the pouches

[jagged vector]

You can’t shoot the pouches

[bronze grotto]

dont they have hurricane with 12 mg

[solid hinge]

yes

[jagged vector]

They spawn off the player’s corpse and have insane collision value

[bronze grotto]

lel

[solid hinge]

that would be Hurricane MK II

[coarse thunder]

?

What does that mean

[jagged vector]

He shot down a plane and killed the pilot

[solid hinge]

now 303 sqn during the battle used them to FANTASTIC effect

[jagged vector]

Pilot drops ammo pouch

[bronze grotto]

or passenger lol

[jagged vector]

Mike hits the ammo pouch and instantly explodes

[coarse thunder]

🤔

[solid hinge]

mike then

[bronze grotto]

so you just get pouched and the pilot and plane goes off

[solid hinge]

yes

[jagged vector]

It’s so fast when it happens. Usually when you’re on the same vector as the enemy plane and it’s super close when it blows up

[bronze grotto]

new assigment get 10 kills with an ammo pouch while prone in an objective area in one life

[solid hinge]

yep

@jagged vector unfortunaltly thats the most common

[strong parrot]

hurricane had ~60% of the kills in the battle of Britain could take more punishment and were easier to repair

[solid hinge]

That's REALLY annoying

[bronze grotto]

@jagged vector do i get close to use coax with the Archer

[jagged vector]

As a top 12% spm pilot I can relate @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

anyway

[jagged vector]

If you’re too far to use coax mg, the infantry isn’t a threat yet

[solid hinge]

the spitfire didnt really come into its own until after the battle of britain

im at 250spm on pilot and I'm in the top 11%

[jagged vector]

Tfw only 238 spm

[solid hinge]

Germans feared the spitfire more because they felt the BF-109 was on more even terms with the hurricane

the Spitfire was something else however

it's impossible to get points as a pilot

everyone just bails or crashes

this is due to design differances

i shall name a few

The spitfire was design for low speed, and could turn very well in combat

@bronze grotto you can swap to coaxial between cannon shots, you might get some random hitmarkers or a suppression or something

the otherside of the coin was the BF-109

which was designed for energy fighting

[jagged vector]

imagine if energy fighting mechanics were in game

[solid hinge]

i know

WT seemed to have nailed it

[jagged vector]

I cry every time

[bronze grotto]

imagine if flying controls were as easy like wt

[solid hinge]

anyway

[jagged vector]

We should be able to pull off very silly shit in the planes

[solid hinge]

the Spitfire however suffered the same fate as the 109

the Brits made a large number of variants

the flight model in this kinda sucks

so much that it was basically a totally differant plane.

if you get behind them first you generally cam always stay on them

[jagged vector]

The flight model could stand to be a lot more crisp

[solid hinge]

hell it had the same engine as the mustang at one point

the humble spitfire

as fast as a fucking P51

if someone gets behind you in the mosquito you either speed off or pray you can land without instantly dying because the hitboxes are dodgy

The mosq was p fucking fast

hell irc a Me163 comet was in a dogfight with one

[jagged vector]

Like it wouldn’t hurt to make all the planes faster and handle more nicely

[solid hinge]

yes

but the maps are smaller

you'd be out of bounds every 5 seconds

[jagged vector]

Hehe

[shrewd grove]

In one life, get 20 kills after you do the hokey-pokey and turn yourself around while attacking an objective and diffusing the bomb

[solid hinge]

in one life, get 200 kills

in one life

[shrewd grove]

In one life, beat your killstreak record

[solid hinge]

get 2 plane kills with the M1928 SMG

[icy sluice]

In one life, live the American Dream

[shrewd grove]

In one life, get a tank kill with the Sten

[icy sluice]

But that doesn't need the "in one life" if it's just one

[shrewd grove]

Two then

[solid hinge]

as you are in bleedout

get 2 kills in the JU87

[icy sluice]

Someone got a tank kill with a throwing knife

[solid hinge]

[jagged vector]

In one life achieve realistic penetration values with the 8.8 kwk 43 L/71

[icy sluice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/akfrph/throwing_knife_vs_sturmtiger/

[solid hinge]

....

a fucking sturm tiger?

[jagged vector]

He detonated AT mines with the knife right?

[solid hinge]

how is Mp34?

[icy sluice]

MP34 is pretty good

With Rapid Fire it's good for 1v1 situations

[shrewd grove]

^

You just have to be able to aim with it really

For the most part really

Its on par with the MP40

[solid hinge]

how is right side upgrades?>

because thats basically sticking MP40 mags in it

and high V rounds

One of my problems with flying a plane is when you make the map bigger it becomes almost unreadable

[shrewd grove]

Ayla and I use right side I think

[solid hinge]

neat

anyway

MP34

[shrewd grove]

It is basically that though

[solid hinge]

or how Germany side stepped the Treaty of Versilles

again

[shrewd grove]

The MP34 feels a tad odd to control but that's my only complaint with it

[solid hinge]

its austrian

what did you expect?

Right side mp34 is nice at range

It has slightly higher damage than the other smgs so it has less fall off

basically the MP34 is another take on MP18

you see a lot of side loaders in this period

now as to why austria deved it and not germany?

because apparently the treaty said "lel germany cant make SMGS"

germany was then "fuck well we can buy em off the Czechs and austrians :DDDDDD"

oh

also

i found out you can buy the STUG IV for the LOW LOW price of 100 CC

i bought 2

accidentally

[jagged vector]

Dual wield the stug

[solid hinge]

yes

i understand WHY the STUG III is not a thing here

but cmon

its the most german produced tank of the war

serving throughout the whole period

few others can see that.

[peak heath]

honestly im surpised at lack of guns in BFV i thought there would be more for all classes

[midnight nimbus]

BFV already has a lot of gun variety

what other roles are there

[jagged vector]

i swear to god if he says garand

[shrewd grove]

Honestly the weapon variety at least feels better than BF1

Much easier to unlock too than just grinding

[peak heath]

mosin would be nice to see

[jagged vector]

The mosin will probably come along when the soviets are introduced

[peak heath]

makes sense

[tacit kelp]

again I was recorded and reported

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 has better variety

[peak heath]

agreed

[tacit kelp]

agree

[midnight nimbus]

effectively

but BFV isn't bad

1907 = FAMAS
SG 1-5 = ACE 23

semi variety is pretty good

SMG variety is very good, to the point that the upcoming new SMGs don't really bring anything new

[jagged vector]

I can hardly imagine what untouched niches new guns will fit

[peak heath]

i am surpised they didnt bring in some from BF1 as some soliders did re use the same rifles

[jagged vector]

They brought plenty from bf1

[midnight nimbus]

upcoming Chauchat fits a very good niche

[peak heath]

really which ones?

[midnight nimbus]

Bren = Huot

[solid hinge]

ahem

[jagged vector]

Selb 1916, m95, mp28 (mp18 clone), RSC, smle

[solid hinge]

jewish company

[jagged vector]

Many sidearms

Ross rifle coming next week

[solid hinge]

jewish company reselling the same assets at the same price

[peak heath]

seriously dude....

[solid hinge]

yup

[peak heath]

ross rifle nice!

[jagged vector]

That’s just off the top of my head

[timid stag]

Pepega good game

[unique crater]

[violet finch]

[solid hinge]

uh ho

[peak heath]

any updates on support and other classes having no glint?

[solid hinge]

did someone say jew in a less then stellar light?

[violet finch]

Oh god

[solid hinge]

Jewish game

jewish devs

jewish company

[peak heath]

i know support has a 3x scope no glint im for scope glint but its unbalanced

[solid hinge]

probably stocks from a jewish government

like America

@solid hinge bruh

why you angry

do you know how many senators have israel citizenship?

all of them

yes yes

jews control the media

yes

the government

my milk

this man gets it

my TV

my god damned bed

every god damned thing

bfv's message should have been hitler was the good guy

Hell i hear the jews pull my leg hair, making me cry like a little bitch

every soldier except for the German ones should be jews or black

[jagged vector]

take this elsewhere guys

[solid hinge]

and in the end Hitler nukes Amerika

@jagged vector hes nothing to me

and everywhere else that isnt aryan

BF1's message should have been that Germany was and should be FULLY prepared to gas everyone that isnt at least white and not jewish

uh-huh

we can figure out ethnic groups with different hairs and eyes later

go on.

[torn willow]

I love how whenever your team is shit on grand op you will consistantly lose all 2 games afterwards

[solid hinge]

no seriously do go on

1488

[hybrid dock]

ive seen worms with higher brain functions

[solid hinge]

Eva

she didnt have a working vagina so the bitch couldn't reproduce

😆

[hybrid dock]

are you from /pol/?

[solid hinge]

no

/pol/ is much more....

reserved

[hybrid dock]

nah

[solid hinge]

this guy is probably from reddit

or stormfront

[hybrid dock]

lmfao

[jagged vector]

It’s okay I already called the cops

😂😂😂

[hybrid dock]

lul

[solid hinge]

bruh momentum

im from /k/

[jagged vector]

I called in my V1

[bronze grotto]

why cant we let the circus go on

is it time for the birds and bees talk

[jagged vector]

/k/ is good

[solid hinge]

except for nowadays

[bronze grotto]

not /b/

[solid hinge]

the janitors kinda clamped down

[jagged vector]

Well back way back

[bronze grotto]

and r9k

[solid hinge]

and all the old guys fucked off to discord and skype

[jagged vector]

/r/guns is awesome though

[solid hinge]

reddit

ever

you pleb

[bronze grotto]

euueughu unpopular opinion

gets trillion upvotes

[unique crater]

How do you call in a V1?

[solid hinge]

SQUAD SUPPORT

[jagged vector]

message @ modmail if you see something like that

I only included the channel name & the person’s discord handle

[solid hinge]

oh come now

he said /pol/ of all places was ran by jews

hes a stormfront guy

nothing

[charred heron]

Had a 10/10 game

[jagged vector]

Not the kind of ilk we need here

[charred heron]

We were 8v8 in a Conquest match

[solid hinge]

i know

[charred heron]

God, Devestation can be spooky with that much silence

[jagged vector]

8v8 conquest sounds awesome

At least on a small map like devastation

[bronze grotto]

so stug and panzer 4 short barrel has good splash damage, is that right

[charred heron]

Like, you walk through the map, hear some gunshots in the distance, everything is quiet

[solid hinge]

should....

[jagged vector]

Yes the short 75 has good splash

[bronze grotto]

i might replace wirbelwind with panzer 4 stubby

[solid hinge]

short barrels are more Anti infantry

[charred heron]

Worst part was me creeping on a point just to hear a Tiger trying to find me

[bronze grotto]

20mm doesnt feel like it kills as fast as the valentine AA

[solid hinge]

how do you not hear a tiger salty

[jagged vector]

That sounds nerve wracking

[charred heron]

@solid hinge Can't hear it if it doesn't move

Then you only have this Tiger and some creeking wood

[bronze grotto]

do i replace my valentine with the churchill w/95mm howitzer now that i have the archer

muh dedicated at tank

[charred heron]

Or you walk through this narrow theater part on Devestation, only to hear some gunshots and the obligatory "Sanitäter"

[bronze grotto]

actually does the archer do a better antitank job than the 6 pounder valentine

[charred heron]

But you know there could be one of those few enemies lurking around

[solid hinge]

Archer technically has higher damage than 6 pounder AP valentine but way lower velocity

[bronze grotto]

do you think that's outdated stats being put in

it feels like prepatch velocity with me having to aim like three notches above target on hannut

[jagged vector]

I can only hope they increase the archer’s velocity

[bronze grotto]

with long barrel stug i think i only aim just a bit below the peak of the triangle reticle

[solid hinge]

It (apparently) has the same velocity as regular 6 pounder HE rounds from the valentine

[bronze grotto]

[solid hinge]

It just doesn't get the AP boost because it's not shooting AP shells

well the Valentine is a little bit faster

Archer is 530, 6 pounder valentine is 550

6 pounder AP rounds are 720

[bronze grotto]

legendary

putting a longer barrel and having to go backwards

for slightly slower shells

[solid hinge]

It's more artillery IMO

[bronze grotto]

that should be the bishop and grille's gimmick when/if they show up

and archer not having splash damage for shelling infantry

[solid hinge]

150 impact damage and 112 blast damage on the archer default shells
100 impact damage and 112 blast damage on default Valentine shells

[bronze grotto]

40mm gun on default valentine tho

[solid hinge]

They both have 3 blast radius with 1.3 inner blast radius

[bronze grotto]

and i think it would also shoot faster than 6 pounder and 17 pounder

[solid hinge]

Oh the 40mm gun

[bronze grotto]

still kinda meh

[solid hinge]

It has 600 speed

[bronze grotto]

the 2 pounder has higher speed than the other cannons

[solid hinge]

The default Valentine tank 2 pounder? It's 530 ain't it?

Same as the archer

[bronze grotto]

oh ok

whats the impact damage for 6 pounder

[solid hinge]

Default rounds or APCR rounds

[bronze grotto]

wait nvm ill get that spreadsheet again

are you taking from that

[solid hinge]

Ye

I'm pretty sure it's accurate

6 pounder was p alright

[bronze grotto]

2pdr HE shell is 70 impact and 78 splash

[solid hinge]

until chad 17 pdr

the 2 pounder has some shit damage

[bronze grotto]

better splash and reload at least

[solid hinge]

If you compare it to the short barrel panzer 4

[bronze grotto]

tfw apcr 6 pounder does 225 damage

[solid hinge]

Valentine really benefits from the gun upgrade

[bronze grotto]

wadduheck the short barrel and long barrel panzer 4 has same splash damage

with only 35-ish impact damage difference

[solid hinge]

yep

the splash radius on the short barrel is BIG as well

[bronze grotto]

waiot the splash dropoff is different though

[solid hinge]

its only a 75mm shell

Valentine 6 pounder is a huge damage increase in exchange for slightly smaller inner blast radius

[bronze grotto]

the archer still has pisspoor splash compared to the stubby

[solid hinge]

Long barrel panzer is a slight impact damage increase with velocity boost in exchange for gutting the splash

[bronze grotto]

the 95mm churchill has chungus splash damage

[solid hinge]

Archer splash sucks, but it gets a lot of ammo and it's HE rounds are good on tanks too

[bronze grotto]

slightly better than tiger it appears

but its impact lol

[coarse thunder]

Some people don't use the bigger gun on the pzIV because it has the best base splash damage of all the tanks

[solid hinge]

The howitzer Churchill does shit on everything bar the sturmtiger with splash

but it's slow as heck

[coarse thunder]

Much better for anti-infantry

[solid hinge]

and >20 impact damage

The hesh rounds are meaty though

[bronze grotto]

do i replace the wirbelwind with short gun panzer 4

[coarse thunder]

I should switch out my upgrades every time I play the more urban maps

[solid hinge]

I'd consider it

[bronze grotto]

i dont get to really fuck up planes anyway

[solid hinge]

If you take case rounds or s-mines you have good defence vs infantry as well

[bronze grotto]

do i want case rounds now that short barrel has a pretty meat splash

it's only limited for peekers now i think

[solid hinge]

s-mines help for super close range, case rounds destroys peekers

It's worth checking the case round stats on the spreadsheet

[coarse thunder]

PzIV shortbarrel has no range

[solid hinge]

Panzer 4 gets a lot of pellets in it's case rounds

Pz4 short barrel is interesting for close range infantry support

[bronze grotto]

same damage as the valentine but less ammo and rof

[coarse thunder]

Upgrade to long barrel for bigger maps

[bronze grotto]

ehh ill take the smines