battlefield-legacy-titles

[marble phoenix]

ehhh the flow on breakthrough is more linear though. you kinda have to go where the points are

vs

Conquest you can pick the other side of the map to start if you wanted too

[ancient ocean]

Ya you can definitely tell that the maps where more designed around breakthrough

[marble phoenix]

but i agree the flow on most maps is kinda crap

[ancient ocean]

Breakthrough is unbalanced because everyone is so stupid that it just turns in to tug of war because no one on attack will defend an objective and will just run to the other flag and as soon as you cap that one you lose the other one.

[gray glade]

playing conquest in 2019

get with the times broes and sistas

😃

[ancient ocean]

I don't play conquest partly cause I don't like Panzerstorm.

[marble phoenix]

conquest the only mode i play

i miss squad conq

and i will play other modes

[pale rain]

Yeah I don’t play much conquest, just because some of the other modes are more entertaining

Yes I do miss squad conquest

[gray glade]

panzerstorm plays quite different in grand operations imo

its the best map i played as defender, despite us losing

maybe its different if you're playing as attacker

[compact plinth]

Panzerstorm definitely rewards people who actually defend the objective instead of mobbing around to the closest uncapped one.

[ancient ocean]

Did they take squad conquest out today?

[sonic rampart]

Is rush out yet?

[marble phoenix]

nah squad ended last week i think

rush mode isnt out yet i dont think

[sonic rampart]

Aww

[gray glade]

i like the stug tbh, even though i havent unlocked all specializations yet, only played it 1 map

[solid hinge]

Attacking is a pain when they have like 6 fuckin tanks on breakthrough

[ancient ocean]

It's in the 3rd day of the new operation

[solid hinge]

Any route you go as infantry involves explosions and getting the shit shot out of you

There's 4 howitzer churchills on their side bombarding bloody everything

[sonic rampart]

Tfw you have to play grandops for rush

[ancient ocean]

Haven't played the new operation yet but I've been on discord all day and all I've herd is bad things about it from alot of people.

[gray glade]

finally the heavy tanks are useful

using that "heavy gun" whatever for the brits was fun

[ancient ocean]

@sonic rampart not sure they will probably release it by its self eventually.

[solid hinge]

the points are close together enough on breakthrough for the Churchill howitzer to basically always be relevant

considering the defence it has and the damage it deals

[ancient ocean]

I'm surprised this game is still relevant.

[solid hinge]

if your team doesn't pick tigers you're gonna get your ass blasted

[amber goblet]

Defender with 4 archer

Feelsgoodman

[ancient ocean]

Tigers suck tbh

[solid hinge]

and a thousand curses to the people who picked flakpanzer

[gray glade]

wtf boi

tiger is my fave tank in this game

[amber goblet]

They get buffed

[solid hinge]

heavy tanks are fat fucks now

[amber goblet]

I kill 2k enemy with ny last tiger

[solid hinge]

Flakpanzer is fun

I use The Whirl version

[ancient ocean]

Unless you have Infantry supporting you heavy tanks aren't that good.

[solid hinge]

With Flaming Onion rounds lol

[gray glade]

that AP ammo is a must for the tigers then you'll have an advantage against just about anyone

[amber goblet]

With a 90• degree i can deal 70dam to enemy tank

[gray glade]

it feels almost realistic that tigers can stand at range and "snipe" other tanks out

[solid hinge]

I picked Heat-T on it

Just aim for the turret lol

Negate its turret movement and you’ll be fine in a tank right

[amber goblet]

Bum bum bye staghound bye valentine

[solid hinge]

Fight

The round is slower but it has way more blast damage

[ancient ocean]

"Feels realistic" how would you know did you fight in ww2 @gray glade

[amber goblet]

Warthunder u welcome

[gray glade]

We know how they liked to use tiger tanks from their reports

and reliable witness accounts

[ancient ocean]

It was a joke

[gray glade]

no you were very serious

[main grove]

Am I the only one who thinks that the whole dying process gets a little annoying after a while

[gray glade]

i know you better than you know yourself

😄

[main grove]

I mean that says a lot about me but still

[gray glade]

you mean it takes a bit too much time?

[ancient ocean]

Everybody post there stats in bot command.

[main grove]

Hearing the same bloody flatline noise followed by the WWRRHHH and seeing the same animation

[amber goblet]

Should i show my stat as pilot

[ancient ocean]

YES

[amber goblet]

Nah not a good idea, i will get rp

Everyfucking time

[ancient ocean]

RP? Reported?

[amber goblet]

Yep

[ancient ocean]

Well now ya gotta show your stats

[solid hinge]

I wouldn't mind dying as much if i didn't have to hold the button

[ancient ocean]

I don't even know how to report.

[amber goblet]

Esc-> scorebroad-> player-> view profile-> rp

[main grove]

I still think that shotguns have too much drop off in every Battlefield game

Even if you’re 25 metres away 4 damage is pathetic

[ancient ocean]

Well why would you tell me

I'm on Xbox anyway

Well I'm on my phone right now.

[little fjord]

@solid hinge very first shot fired in the archer I hit a low flying bomber

No lie

[solid hinge]

[amber goblet]

U remember shotgun with explo round in operation metro ?

[main grove]

No

I wasn’t there for that shite

[amber goblet]

Its meat party for shotgun spammer

[main grove]

I used shotguns a bit in BF4 and they felt ok I guess

[amber goblet]

Both side

[main grove]

Oh i have played on metro

Hated it

Just never encountered explosive shotguns

Was this BF3 or 4?

[amber goblet]

They limit shotgun slot

but some servers still have no limit

[little fjord]

Frag rounds

[amber goblet]

They just pick like 14support with xm25 + shotgun

[main grove]

I guess it’s just BFV where shotguns feel underwhelming

[amber goblet]

2k ticket

[main grove]

Because they still do BF1 damage

And In BF1 you didn’t have laser automatics

[amber goblet]

Model a hunter is gud

[main grove]

I might be complaining because I used 12g auto in both games

While it wasn’t a one shot in BF1 its two shot range was further than most shotguns one shot range

[solid hinge]

shotguns are broken at the moment apparently

[main grove]

Are they still?

[little fjord]

They felt ok to me until they got bugged

[main grove]

Because I can get one shot kills with the 12 auto

[solid hinge]

some kind of accuracy thing

[main grove]

It’s just I have to be super close

[ancient ocean]

The pump shotgun is really good with slug rounds, in bf1 the slug shotguns sucked because they still weren't that good at long range and at close range the bullet spread is to tight so it's hard to stuff.

[solid hinge]

I am so fucking tired of the melee failing in this

[dense bone]

dont melee

[solid hinge]

It's supposed to work!!!

Combat medic + panic knife = yeeess

[ancient ocean]

I'm supposed to be doing school work right now.

But am i

[verbal shadow]

wow what a hard ass thing to say

[ancient ocean]

I was saying that because ayla said melee is supposed to work

[sudden rune]

Anyone from europe wants to play combined arms?

I mean

Farm

Combined arms

[bronze grotto]

wow man

i was about to finally win a hannut operation

and then of course the game crashes

[solid hinge]

I came to remind you to breathe manually.

Anyways

Archer is pretty good

It doesnt work like the putilov

[bronze grotto]

the game goes out of my way to cuck me from winning hannut for even just once

[solid hinge]

Hannut day 3 is 2 hard

[little fjord]

I like the archer ok... but the rear facing machine gun.... seems like it might as well not be there

[bronze grotto]

this is actually tilting

i can't win any GO rounds since the tow started

[little fjord]

You can win any game mode for the tow task

[solid hinge]

[ionic thorn]

we need a battle pass system in this game

[midnight nimbus]

I miss good shotguns in BF 😦

[solid hinge]

Drilling is..

We need the "deluxe pass"

We get more shit in the tow

Ez

It would make the Deluxe worth the money

[midnight nimbus]

Drilling is ok

BF3/4 shotguns tho >>

even a return to BF1 12G Auto would be great

BF just has inherently janky shotgun mechanics

[solid hinge]

The random fire is a fucking joke

[midnight nimbus]

Call of Duty shotgun mechanics are vastly superior

[solid hinge]

random fire?

[midnight nimbus]

Metal Gear is better than both

[verbal shadow]

metal gear is a completely different game than bf and cod wtf

[midnight nimbus]

but the shotgun mechanics are transferrable

consistent up close, not unusable outside of your ideal range

[weak violet]

I hate how random the shotguns are

[midnight nimbus]

CoD shotgun mechanics are incredibly consistent

[weak violet]

I use slugs but it feels weak

[midnight nimbus]

arguably too consistent

center pellet mechanic when DICE

get with the times

[weak violet]

You are versing a ton of lazer guns that can easily kill you inside or outside your range extremely quickly

So it should be consistent

[verbal shadow]

the ksg from bo2

[midnight nimbus]

return of BF1 12G Auto pls

and BF3 slugs

[craggy knot]

So when are they gonna fix the last tiger story mode?

[solid hinge]

Well

I carried battle of Hannu as aggressive tiger

AP tiger round on Valentine AA one shots lol

[carmine eagle]

Hey guys

[pale rain]

@verbal shadow ksg from bo2 was beautiful lol

[carmine eagle]

Yeah

R A N G E

[ancient ocean]

bo2?

[carmine eagle]

Yes

[ancient ocean]

Is that black ops 2?

[carmine eagle]

Yes

[solid hinge]

I'm tired of frags getting caught under things so I can't throw them back

[pale rain]

I guess that’s realistic lol but yes I agree

[solid hinge]

Its not when it's just clipped into the floor!

Frequently i just can't throw them back because it's a very slight mound or something

And then the time I've spent trying to throw it means I'm dead

[pale rain]

Ok yeah I thought you meant like actually trapped under something

[ancient ocean]

"Mound"?

[pale rain]

A mound of dirt..?

[solid hinge]

A little bump in the ground

[ancient ocean]

Oh

[carmine eagle]

A well placed bug

[bronze grotto]

i have finally won an entire grand operation on hannut

[solid hinge]

@bronze grotto i hate to rq 3 times

[carmine eagle]

Once, there was a grand operations game that I left because it had went on for two hours

[solid hinge]

Congrats with ur win

[bronze grotto]

my game crashed and i had to rejoin the same server

thanks

[solid hinge]

tfw your bayonet slips through someone and then you can't hold rt to die quicker

[bronze grotto]

tfw i still cant get the full glory of being no.1 score

[solid hinge]

these bugs SUCK

[carmine eagle]

Again, it just works

[bronze grotto]

but w/e its a full win

[carmine eagle]

@bronze grotto Again, it just works

[bronze grotto]

but it was almost ultra tilting having to server hop to return to the server

[carmine eagle]

Huh

[azure lark]

Have not played it yet, but Panzerstorm night appears to be a home run

[ancient ocean]

Not from what I've been hearing today sounds pretty bad.

[main grove]

Why the Fuck do we sometimes lose rush when we have 30 or so tickets left and they defuse a bomb?

[solid hinge]

time limit

[sudden rune]

@here add me who wants to farm combined arms company coins. Nickname: TikrasFaustas

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

[main grove]

Is there a time limit?

Didn’t notice

[solid hinge]

!lfg

[junior mist]

:information_source: <> Looking for Players to play with? Head Over to the Looking For Group Channels in the (#LFG) Channel Category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!

[solid hinge]

I had the same issue

Noticed a time limit in the corner

It's annoying

Guess that's why it's rush though

[pale rain]

True

Haven’t had a chance to play yet. Getting on later

[bronze grotto]

tfw germans still jump out of c47 alongside brits

it's just going to be so sad if crete comes out and they still have german paras using the c47

[sonic rampart]

Just realised they are going to use those planes in firestorm

[main grove]

Didn’t they say a different company was making firestorm?

[sonic rampart]

Yes, but its the Same game

[bronze grotto]

still needs to have bf5 base game bought

competing with apex

[main grove]

Imagine if that company fixed the shit out of BFV’s bugs in just that gamemode

[sonic rampart]

Apex is already getting kind of boring

[solid hinge]

Br is boring

[sonic rampart]

Meh

[main grove]

I like the looting aspect but not the short lived aspect

[sonic rampart]

Its getting too #general

[main grove]

That’s why I really want to try escape from tarkov

[sonic rampart]

👀 the mods

[low quail]

so, how is that semi-night map in bfv? 😄

[solid hinge]

It's nice for stealth

[weak violet]

I hope they add a night close quarters map

[solid hinge]

when you don't get shot through a bush

[dense bone]

theres a new map?!

[solid hinge]

No

[weak violet]

As the best front lines happen in BF1 was neviel nights

[solid hinge]

New go

[sonic rampart]

Its panzerstorm

Night time

[weak violet]

It was a proper frontlines map

[sonic rampart]

But I think its bigger right?

[weak violet]

Where two teams where is trenchs pushing into the other team

The best front lines map in the game

in BF1

[bronze grotto]

more trench maps

[sonic rampart]

Its the Same map tho

[low quail]

and the same lmg camping)

[bronze grotto]

what spec for archer

i havent touched the thing

[low quail]

Westie says, wow, it's his fav. map. lul

[bronze grotto]

is this like stug but even more campier

[main grove]

Westie was such a shill at one point but given the fact that a lot of his videos have been negative about BFV something been happening recently

Same with jackfrags

[weak violet]

It might be that they love the game and want it to be better

So they show dice the problems

As the videos get enough views that dice will notice

[solid hinge]

I’m seeing a good amount of youtubers who made battlefield videos like crafter or aka art leaving

😂

LOl

[icy sluice]

It's almost like the term "Constructive Criticism" is a word

Agh, just got out of work so my mind ain't there yet

[half wolf]

lmao the grifter pants and the architect pants are the same

[solid hinge]

Westie must love being on ea’s payroll

[icy sluice]

I do like this game more than all others except 2

[half wolf]

mirage too, and some pants on the US side

wow

[icy sluice]

2 was and still best

You can disagree, I don't care

[midnight nimbus]

Tetris Battle Royale > BF2

[icy sluice]

Lol

[solid hinge]

^

[icy sluice]

It's called Tetris 99

[solid hinge]

Every battlefield game> battlefield 1 hardline and 5

Change my mind

[midnight nimbus]

BF2 is fine if you like vehicles

BFH is the best BF if you like infy

by far

[icy sluice]

2 was definitely good with vehicles

Hardline I didn't like the maps and vehicles too much. Setting also drew me away

[midnight nimbus]

i'd rather turn my monitor off and stare at it than play BF2 infy

i loved BFH setting, just wasn't a "Battlefield setting"

[icy sluice]

If you get rid of dolphin diving...

[midnight nimbus]

BFH should've just launched as "Hardline" alone

[icy sluice]

Eugh, spam z to get to flags

[midnight nimbus]

mfw BF2 guns in ADS are about as accurate as BF1/BFV guns in hipfire

[icy sluice]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

but people didn't start screaming about arr bee dee until now

[icy sluice]

There were mods for bf2

Personally loved AIX the most

Better AI, better weapons, more maps...

I can have 64v64 on single player just fine

[sonic rampart]

Tetris br what?

[icy sluice]

#general for that talk

[solid hinge]

I wanna know how many people are still actively playing battlefield 5

Considering it did undersell

[icy sluice]

I see a lot of servers in Grand ops alone in North America

Fuck mobile typing on a moving bus on a bad road lmao

[solid hinge]

I keep wondering why they slashed the price so quickly after launch

Like 4 days after launch I saw the game for half price

So I have to wonder how many people are actively logging in

And if they’re desperate for new players

[dense bone]

it undersold, but still sold millions of copies so there are people still playing

[icy sluice]

They did launch it right before holidays

[solid hinge]

[sonic rampart]

Because the marketing was shit

I think the game is kind of underrated

[icy sluice]

Marketing was abhorrent

[dense bone]

bf underselling is still breaking top 10 sales of that year...

[icy sluice]

Yeah

Top 5 played game on Xbox I think

[dense bone]

last report i saw said it was placed 13th, but it didnt include pc sales at all

[half wolf]

lmao I just went 0-17 in my first grand operations attempt

fuck that im never trying that again

[solid hinge]

This is the worst selling battlefield game since bc2 omegalul

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[dense bone]

and its still millions of sales

[solid hinge]

1.4 million first week

Where battlefield 1 had like 2.8

[icy sluice]

I can't wait to try the new grand ops with you

[sonic rampart]

Because people learned from their mistakes

[solid hinge]

Battlefield 4 had like 2.72 even though that was more broken

[dense bone]

yes, less than others, but still more than enough for it to not be dead and for me to easily find matches in 3 minutes that are full and barely starting

[sonic rampart]

And knew the game would be cheaper

[icy sluice]

I think a reason why bf1 did so well was because of infinite warfare

[strong parrot]

Yikes outbreak of stupidity

[icy sluice]

Holy shit, Bmac

[solid hinge]

I still wonder how battlefield 4 sold better than 5

In first week

[sonic rampart]

Because bf4 had a decent trailer

[dense bone]

^

that alone helps a lot

[icy sluice]

Jee, if only we gave a few reasons

[sonic rampart]

And bf5s trailer was like

[dense bone]

and didnt have rdr launching before it

[sonic rampart]

Yikes

Bf players to dice: Am I a joke to you?

[solid hinge]

Well battlefield 5 trailer has put a big dent in the game lol

[dense bone]

and rdr2

[solid hinge]

And the game itself is lacking

[sonic rampart]

Ye

[dense bone]

the game is 90% of what bf1 was at the same time

[icy sluice]

If only we didn't say the first part of that several times

[solid hinge]

That sounds like copy pasta

[weak violet]

When the bombers were op i hated playing this game

[sonic rampart]

Bf1 right

[solid hinge]

When the game had the bugs, I turned t off

[sonic rampart]

Oh bf5 bombers

[weak violet]

I only played maps without planes when those bombers could insantly bomb you right from the start

[sonic rampart]

Like ju

[dense bone]

make a better game with no bugs

seems easy enough

[sonic rampart]

Bf4s launch was bad aswell

[weak violet]

Yup seems so simple that i could do it

[icy sluice]

Yeah, if only it were that way

[weak violet]

:))

JK

[midnight nimbus]

some of the things in this game need to be rebuilt from the ground up, which means it won't happen

[icy sluice]

Bf4s launch was abysmal

[midnight nimbus]

at least BF4 had good and usable UI

[dense bone]

with how many people make it seem like dice is incompetent, i assume its not hard

[solid hinge]

Battlefield is a big franchise

[bronze grotto]

dice cba to make german plane jump with ju52 and german troops in the plane lul

[solid hinge]

It usually still sells well with heavy hitters

[sonic rampart]

I loved the DUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUN

[bronze grotto]

inb4 we get crete and they still jump from c47

[midnight nimbus]

too bad it would be too hard to just throw away and completely redo BFV's UI

[solid hinge]

So it doesn’t make sense why this one sold worse as a mainline

[icy sluice]

Thought that said heavy Hitlers

[solid hinge]

It really doesn’t

I just got final stand

[weak violet]

The music in this game i gotta say i dislike

[sonic rampart]

Obliteration and choppers

[solid hinge]

On Op Hannut

[dense bone]

it still broke top 10 of 2018 while coming out basically last.. how is that not selling well

[solid hinge]

Considering it’s a big franchise

Final stand

[sonic rampart]

How

[weak violet]

It does not got that world war feeling

Bf1 music was amazing

[solid hinge]

Final stand on Op Hannut looks fantastic

[sonic rampart]

Does Hannut have 4 games

[bronze grotto]

bf5's soundtrack feels like a rehash of bf1 soundtrack

[solid hinge]

It’s Arras

[icy sluice]

3 days

[midnight nimbus]

breaking top 10 alone isn't a big accomplishment for a BF game

[solid hinge]

^

[sonic rampart]

:/

[solid hinge]

I got Final stand lol

Yeah that’s still disappointing

[dense bone]

for a bf game, but in terms of all games, yea it is

[sonic rampart]

Never played 1 final stand

[dense bone]

i havent said otherwise

[solid hinge]

I’d expect it to sell at least 2 million

[icy sluice]

I've played 5 final stand matches

[solid hinge]

Maybe not as good as battlefield 1 but not worser than hardline

[dense bone]

worser?

[solid hinge]

Hardline had 1.51 million

Battlefield 5 had 1.4

[midnight nimbus]

BFH sold well

[sonic rampart]

^

BfV>bf1 imo

[icy sluice]

I'm surprised how well it sold tbh

@sonic rampart same

[dense bone]

when people complain a game doesnt sell the tens of millions of copies it normally does

[sonic rampart]

It looked like fun tho

[solid hinge]

Hardline is such a underrated fake

[icy sluice]

Cannot touch bf1 after v came out

[solid hinge]

Game

[sonic rampart]

But never played hardline

[solid hinge]

7.3 million isn’t bad but it’s woeful for a battlefield game

Hardline should be the next game ngl

I’d expect at least 10 million copies

[weak violet]

@icy sluice Why can't you touch BF1

[solid hinge]

Hardline 2 lol

[dense bone]

7m is good, and is low for bf game

[midnight nimbus]

eh, i like BF1 more as an overall experience, but there's aspects of BFV i like

[icy sluice]

Because v exists

[dense bone]

it just matters how much money they put into it vs how much they got out of it

[weak violet]

But 1 exists two

[icy sluice]

Yeah, I don't wanna touch it

[sonic rampart]

Just make the br free for everyone and nobody will touch any other br other than apex

[icy sluice]

After V

[dense bone]

bfv made 315m at 7m copies sold at 45 bucks a piece... i really doubt production cost more than 100m to make... so yea sounds good to me

[solid hinge]

Welp just lost final stand

Tanks are in Hannut Final stand

[midnight nimbus]

imagine if DICE dropped a trailer... and the name is rendering in and it looks like BF2... but then the second half of renders in and it's just BF3 Remastered

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge WAIT WHAT

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[weak violet]

Aye min

[solid hinge]

It was pretty fun ngl

Sup Trevor lol

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge also, nice hotline Miami pic

[solid hinge]

Thanks lol

[weak violet]

How ya doing Min

[icy sluice]

Just noticed it

[solid hinge]

Pretty good

@dense bone compared to battlefield 1 and older entries, that’s awful

But yeah, I got Final in Hannut like this

Axis wins first two matches entirely

[dense bone]

still made millions in direct sales

[solid hinge]

3rd Match defend final sector on Arras no Matter what

[dense bone]

that doesnt include the potential from origin premier

[solid hinge]

Then you go into Final Stand with tanks on Arras

[icy sluice]

How's rush in Arras?

[solid hinge]

It’s pretty good actually

It suits the map well

The tower is implemented

[bronze grotto]

empty croc on arras final stand lul

[midnight nimbus]

bruh EA stock dropped 18% in one day bc of BFV sales

[solid hinge]

The church I mean

[midnight nimbus]

that's missing your target by millions

[sonic rampart]

Guys imagine prox chat in firestorm

[dense bone]

its like the people trying to mock apple for falling out of a 1b company or whatever shit that was

[bronze grotto]

imagine dice bothering to add

[solid hinge]

What the hell DICE

@midnight nimbus investors dipped quick

[icy sluice]

Everyone's stock went down, especially Take Two

[dense bone]

^
everyone

[midnight nimbus]

that's their Q3 FY18 financial records

[solid hinge]

20% suddenly

why the hell we dont have breakthrough Panzerstorm in map rotations!!!!!!!

Not over time

Suddenly

[dense bone]

and its back up

sooo?

[midnight nimbus]

bc of Apex

[dense bone]

still up

[midnight nimbus]

Apex dropped right after the financial statement

[solid hinge]

Apex saved ea

[dense bone]

trying to determine anything based on stock means nothing

[snow crater]

i have gewher m95 level 4 but still cant unlock specilizatiosn

i exited the game

[dense bone]

apex saved ea

[solid hinge]

They did

[midnight nimbus]

stock prices say a lot about consumer/investor confidence

[solid hinge]

Respawn is the only redeeming quality of ea right now

[dense bone]

yea the company that went from making 5.5b to 5.3b because of bfv

[midnight nimbus]

well, stock prices are pretty much entirely built on confidence

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge Got 260 hours in Deluxe edition

[dense bone]

they make more money than most companies JUST off of fifa

[solid hinge]

Anthem is performing awfully as I’m hearing

Battlefield 5 performed badly for its reasons

[midnight nimbus]

Anthem is DOA

[dense bone]

apex isnt saving anything

[solid hinge]

They are

[pale rain]

Apex is great though

[dense bone]

no they arent

[midnight nimbus]

EA Sports is the big cash cow, Apex is saving EA's place in the FPS industry

[dense bone]

and EA doesnt care, they are making bank either way

[sonic rampart]

FIFA is bc the Same game over and over again

[pale rain]

Wouldn’t say it saved ea.. but I’ve played the hell out of that game

[midnight nimbus]

Titanfall mechanically doesn't have what it takes to make it in the long run

[icy sluice]

I wanna talk about actual gameplay, maybe I'll move to #general

[midnight nimbus]

BF is sliding

[sonic rampart]

This is getting too #general

[dense bone]

agreed

[midnight nimbus]

Apex saves EA's FPS games

[dense bone]

which means nothing...

[solid hinge]

Anthem is doing bad?

[dense bone]

its some made up statistic for us users to try to take a jab at a multibillion dollar company

[solid hinge]

I heard it was doing great

[midnight nimbus]

next BF should just take note of some of the things Apex does

[icy sluice]

My left nut is doing bad

[midnight nimbus]

and stock prices are hardly "made up"

[sonic rampart]

No plz

[dense bone]

was i talking about stock prices?

[sonic rampart]

I dont want a futuristic bf game

[midnight nimbus]

BF needs to take note of Apex's ping system

[dense bone]

and lol at suggesting bf take from apex

[icy sluice]

They're mostly the same

[midnight nimbus]

and Apex's slide is a bit smoother

no, Apex's ping has far more context

[dense bone]

THATS what people want

[midnight nimbus]

it's the best non-verbal communication mechanic in modern vidya

[dense bone]

when they complained about nydar sights, they want apex aspects xD

[icy sluice]

It doesn't really need the context

[midnight nimbus]

it does

[icy sluice]

Whoa, a blocked link

[midnight nimbus]

you can tell your teammates "get ammo here"

more specifically say "attack here"

[solid hinge]

The ping is unironically a neat concept

[midnight nimbus]

Apex's ping is way better for showing your friendlies where you see enemies are

BF's ping is useless

[dense bone]

i think the players are useless

[bronze grotto]

does the archer have splash damage lul

[midnight nimbus]

BF's ping requires VOIP to have any amount of use

bc no context

someone just drops a yellow marker, but you have no idea what it means

[solid hinge]

it'd be useful to at least have a fuckin "i dropped an ammo box here please use this god" ping

[icy sluice]

Stug has a lot of splash damage, is weird

[midnight nimbus]

do i go here? should i avoid this? is it a sniper? an MMG? i have no idea

best to ignore it

[weak violet]

Who pinged me?

[icy sluice]

@weak violet look at recent mentions

[bronze grotto]

short barrel or long barrel stug?

[icy sluice]

Short

[bronze grotto]

stug having splash is not something i expect

[weak violet]

I don't know how to go to recent mentions

[dense bone]

i like when we use the BEST case scenario to say why ANYTHING else is just bad

[bronze grotto]

but the long barrel does shrink the splash damage and radius?

[weak violet]

Before the AA tank had splash damage

[solid hinge]

Stug has exact same stats as panzer 4

[bronze grotto]

lul

[dense bone]

you got a 95% on your test? well that person has a 99%, youre bad

[weak violet]

ad a high fire rate

[solid hinge]

In terms of damage

[icy sluice]

Top right corner on desktop

[bronze grotto]

how about the archer tho

probably not?

[solid hinge]

Only difference is long barrel stug AP shots have an extra 100m/s velocity

[icy sluice]

Haven't played today yet

[solid hinge]

Ea has lost all consumer good will

[bronze grotto]

i see it does 30 damage to p4 turrets in a video

[haughty pawn]

long barrel for stug

[dense bone]

thats why apex is the hottest game right now

[solid hinge]

Which is sad as ea holds some good franchises

[weak violet]

Cus apex is hot

[haughty pawn]

if you wanna have a chance against other tanks

[bronze grotto]

26 damage to tiger sides

[weak violet]

Thats why its the hottest

[icy sluice]

I'm closer to getting long barrel stug

[solid hinge]

Apex came out and did some of the work

[half wolf]

lmao i just tried the new operation and it's basically just a slaughterhouse for the defenders

[weak violet]

[icy sluice]

Lol

[dense bone]

@solid hinge you keep bringing up #general topics in here

[half wolf]

wish I could get on the defending side. MMG heaven

[solid hinge]

Archer has a blast radius of the long barrel stug

[bronze grotto]

long barrel affects velocity and damage right?

[solid hinge]

Ok battlefield 5 is trash

[midnight nimbus]

wish DICE were big enough to be independent and just distribute through Steam

[weak violet]

Defending side with me on it is flare spam

[midnight nimbus]

Origin is garb, EA is garb

[weak violet]

Yes it affects damage

[bronze grotto]

also slows down reload and splash damage

[weak violet]

Which is dumb

[solid hinge]

It can get an ammo type that has lower damage but a higher fire rate with higher inner blast radius

[icy sluice]

Makes sense I guess

[haughty pawn]

yes @solid hinge

[icy sluice]

There's like 3 conversations

[weak violet]

Let me make the barrel a little longer BOOM it suddenly does less damage

[bronze grotto]

@solid hinge the archer apds?

[haughty pawn]

higher velocity

[weak violet]

Lowering a already nonexistent splash damage

[icy sluice]

My tired raptor brain is tired for all this conversation

[bronze grotto]

i am confuse, stug long barrel reduces damage what?

[weak violet]

It does

[solid hinge]

Battlefield 5 needs the firestorm mode to be free to play

[weak violet]

Its an auto cannon

[solid hinge]

That’d be the best idea

[haughty pawn]

reduces splash dmg

[bronze grotto]

what th e

[icy sluice]

It won't be

[solid hinge]

Considering it’s gonna have a hard time competing with apex

[weak violet]

Their is not such a thing called splash damage in this game

[solid hinge]

Other than that

[weak violet]

for tanks

[solid hinge]

Long barrel gives higher velocity and impact damage usually

with a decrease in blast radius

[haughty pawn]

ofc there is

[solid hinge]

Battlefield 5 had a great run in its short life cycle

Fun fact

Spawn beacons = vehicles

[icy sluice]

You don't need to compete with apex

[solid hinge]

I just got a vehicle kill for destroying a beacon lol

[weak violet]

Its just oh you hit right underneath the infantry feet, sorry he only takes 30 damage

[haughty pawn]

#general ?

[solid hinge]

That’s what’s gonna happen if firestorm doesn’t get traction @icy sluice

[bronze grotto]

so in summary, long barrel: more impact damage on tanks, faster shell, less splash, longer reload

[dense bone]

im excited that firestorm is gonna have good netcoding for a br title

[icy sluice]

#General

[weak violet]

@solid hinge I got that for headshooting the guy on the top gunner of a tank

[icy sluice]

Fucking mobile

[weak violet]

Found the mobile user

[bronze grotto]

short barrel has less tank damage, but bigger splash and faster reload?

[haughty pawn]

yes

[weak violet]

YES

[bronze grotto]

ok ty

[icy sluice]

Yeah, I'm at a train station

[solid hinge]

@bronze grotto yeah the apds, says in the stats that it has significantly lower damage but a higher fire rate and inner blast radius

[bronze grotto]

inner blast radius?

is that like for splash damage on someone's feet?

[haughty pawn]

if you go for the long barrel and ap launcher and track skirts for expample,you get a good allrounder out of the stug

[icy sluice]

Now, let's keep this talk about #battlefield-legacy-titles and #battlefield-legacy-titles only

[haughty pawn]

that even can solo well

[solid hinge]

inner blast radius is the area that it does max splash damage in

[weak violet]

Chairs are a part of battlefield

So we can talk about that

[dense bone]

only if they are bf chairs

[bronze grotto]

so apds is not a super anti tank round?

[icy sluice]

Stealth is a vital part of Battlefield Online

[solid hinge]

after the inner radius, it slowly gets smaller until it hits the edge of the outer radius and then it doesn't do any damage at all

[bronze grotto]

its uh, rapid fire infantry blaster?

[haughty pawn]

the other options really need at least a good gunner/repair buddy

[weak violet]

Houses are also a part of BF so we can talk about that

[solid hinge]

According to the stats it's like.. shit?

[weak violet]

So it is very exploitable

[solid hinge]

Impact damage is reduced by a third and blast damage is almost halved

[bronze grotto]

if more armor pen = more damage in bf5, apds should be functionally similar to AP and apcr rounds

[solid hinge]

But inner blast radius goes from 1.3 to 1.8 and fire rate goes from 20 to 25

[haughty pawn]

think i'm gonna try the archer with HE shells,if it sucks i'll go back to another

[bronze grotto]

apds as spamfire rounds lul

[haughty pawn]

tank

[solid hinge]

I guess it's for spamming at infantry

[merry horizon]

Someone got a tank from an event.

[icy sluice]

Bye guess

Guys

[bronze grotto]

also i see the archer has a machine gun

[haughty pawn]

apr are not worth it besides playing panzerstorm imo

[bronze grotto]

wow!

[haughty pawn]

i didn't see any machine gun ?

[bronze grotto]

does it face the same direction as the gun

[solid hinge]

inb4 it has the normal gunner seat facing the front

[midnight nimbus]

unless you play CQ on shit like Hamada or Panzerstorm, you might as well kit your vehicles out for max anti-infy

[haughty pawn]

but i only unlocked it so far an checked the skill tree

[bronze grotto]

but valentine has no hull mg

[haughty pawn]

didn't play since

[solid hinge]

I like having the AP rounds just in case on most things

[haughty pawn]

from the picture there is no visible machine gun

[bronze grotto]

is zimmerit better for infantry compared to track skirt

y know cuz piats and shit

[haughty pawn]

zimmerit is german only

[solid hinge]

The dynamite will slide off, but they can still airburst it

[bronze grotto]

im talking about stug

for now

[haughty pawn]

i prefer skirts

[solid hinge]

I'd take skirts

[bronze grotto]

i mean for anti inf just do it on your aa tanks

[solid hinge]

If someone busts your tracks as stug you're in trouble

[bronze grotto]

does flaming onions burn infantry

[haughty pawn]

hardly any dynamite that kills me

[solid hinge]

It makes a little area of fire on the ground

[haughty pawn]

no

[violet finch]

no the tanks should get willy pete rounds though

[bronze grotto]

mini molotovs?

[haughty pawn]

only planes

[bronze grotto]

ok

[solid hinge]

That's not what I've heard

[haughty pawn]

an foliage and such things

[violet finch]

yall ever see fury

[solid hinge]

ye

[bronze grotto]

i pray for the bishop to come to tow

with chemical shells

[haughty pawn]

but no extra dmg to infantry

[bronze grotto]

add gas chamond to bf5 lul

but dont add gasmasks

working gasmasks*

[solid hinge]

I hope

[violet finch]

meh the willy pete rounds that you shoot into a building and the balls are super hot

[solid hinge]

I double hope they fix the Valentine AA up

[stuck inlet]

anyone else had the problem where u got the stug but it hasent appered in ur lineup?

[solid hinge]

I want the triple barrel to not be shit

[haughty pawn]

triple barrel is usless af

[violet finch]

yeah how do you fix it a friend i getting frustrated rn

[haughty pawn]

dosen't do dmg to nothing lol

[bronze grotto]

is the faster rpm true for the valentine 20mm

[solid hinge]

I used it against a bomber and i did 18 damage in 1.5 overheats

Normal gun does that in two shots

I guess when you force sjw ideology and then call your fan base uneducated and tell them not to buy the game, the game is gonna underperform to past titles

And the fact that the game is unfinished and rushed doesn’t help

[haughty pawn]

the single gun takes planes fast af compared to the tripple

[solid hinge]

Faster rpm is true, but it overheats almost instantly

[bronze grotto]

lel

[stuck inlet]

well after they changed it to 5 instead of 20 it bugged for me i got 1 kill finished the assigment but still no tank

[solid hinge]

It's godawful

[violet finch]

yeah on the valo AA

[bronze grotto]

back to the canister nuker

[haughty pawn]

valentine AA is a anti infantry monster if you go for the slugs

[solid hinge]

Can't believe the spec designed specifically for being better at anti-air is actually shitter at anti-air

[haughty pawn]

1 shots anything

[solid hinge]

I wanted to use it as a proper AA tank

guess that's illegal

[haughty pawn]

lol yeah

[violet finch]

we talken like martini henry pre patch broken or like after patch martini henrey

[bronze grotto]

what specs do you guys take for the flaktank tho

[haughty pawn]

wirbel

[violet finch]

dont use it i got me stug

[dense bone]

we are getting awfully close to firestorm supposed launch date and havent heard anything

[solid hinge]

Turret traverse, better zoom, radar and flaming onion

[haughty pawn]

ye same here

[solid hinge]

@dense bone which is concerning

bf2 hasn't got any news about their new game mode either

[bronze grotto]

hmm what about s-mines and zimmerit for infantry brawling

[solid hinge]

they're sure keeping tight lipped

[bronze grotto]

can wirbel still take on infantry somewhat

[solid hinge]

Battlefront 2

That laughing stock

To take zimmeit you'd have to pass up on traverse speed and the better zoom

[violet finch]

right XD

[haughty pawn]

usually you kill off all infantry before they get to you

[solid hinge]

I don't think that's worth it

[haughty pawn]

so no need for that stuff

[solid hinge]

The better zoom is really good

And yeah you have essentially a minigun with tiny explosive rounds

[bronze grotto]

archer has coax mg like cgc

and a back hull machine gunner for another seat

[solid hinge]

The biggest problem with killing infantry is identifying them in the massive clouds of smoke your guns create

[haughty pawn]

as tank player if you move,always use third person,nobody will sneak on you ever that way

[violet finch]

i can take on any tank on tank but when you throw in 7 infintry guys its kinda hard to live when you got rushed i like to have smines in my tiger to say teh least

[solid hinge]

I like having the Heat rounds in the tiger

[weak violet]

Is the flakpanzer good?

[solid hinge]

Just to really shit on any tank you see

[weak violet]

What do the heat round s do

[haughty pawn]

ofc,its a beast

[solid hinge]

Flakpanzer shreds planes very effectively

It's good at infantry too

[haughty pawn]

shreds infantry even more

[violet finch]

i tried them and to be honest they wernt that good but they med that dam cgc easy to kill

[solid hinge]

Heat rounds are the hardest hitting ammunition the tiger has

[weak violet]

I have heard the the valentine AA 1 shoots infantry?

With its 1 gun

Seems "Balanced"

[solid hinge]

Slower velocity in exchange for big damage

[haughty pawn]

he rounds have higher splash aswell iirc

[violet finch]

true but the hesh that the brits have in dam good but i get snake tubes

[haughty pawn]

to kill those pesky engineers repairing

[solid hinge]

Valentine AA does 68 damage on splash hits and it gets case rounds which fire semi auto and are one shot kills

Wait so don’t go for 3x AA valentine

/Crusader tank

[haughty pawn]

never !

[solid hinge]

Or...?

Never EVER

Why though

Isn’t that the point of it

[haughty pawn]

worst spec

[solid hinge]

im already going down that line

Damn

This sucks lol

It overheats in literally about 3 seconds and deals practically no damage to planes

[haughty pawn]

you won't kill anything with the tripple gun

[solid hinge]

And it becomes fucking abysmal vs tanks and infantry

[haughty pawn]

failure by design

[solid hinge]

But isn’t r suppose to be AA buff lol

[violet finch]

yeah APCR is when im after other tanks like imagane if the stirmtiger as AP rounds 😂

[solid hinge]

It's supposed to be

[haughty pawn]

dice failure that is lol

[solid hinge]

But practically it sucka

Oof

Well

[haughty pawn]

the real one is a beast ofc

[solid hinge]

How about Flaming Onion rounds

On Whirl

It might be better if it didn't overheat so fast but as it is it sucks

[haughty pawn]

nice to have

[solid hinge]

Yeet

I hate the Flakpanzer

Flaming onion rounds are a solid boost to dps

[haughty pawn]

for ticking dmg on planes so they can't repair

[solid hinge]

I prefer the MG variant lol

Whirl wind thing

I somehow become a #1 target when I use it

[bronze grotto]

do you use flaming onions only for planes, also feels like it flies slower

[solid hinge]

Most people don't make the flakpanzer have the cannon

I can’t deal with tanks but I shred air before they come in

[violet finch]

no yeet unless you can shoot down a chruchill tht fell of the bridge on twisted steel

[haughty pawn]

or set foliage or bushes at fire

[solid hinge]

Flaming onion rounds are a little slower i think? But have the fire boost

[violet finch]

agian willy pete would be great for that

[solid hinge]

@bronze grotto I use it mainly for planes because when I’ve shot infantry it hasn’t done much

I just shoot at infantry

[haughty pawn]

yes they are slower,you gotta aim diffrent

[bronze grotto]

i feel like the flaming onion also has smaller radius to proximity pop for planes

[solid hinge]

You have 4 mini guns essentially

The flak upgrade for flakpanzer basically turns your gun into a stationary AA

[violet finch]

4 20mm

[solid hinge]

Plus I dump Onions on Bombers

Not entirely worth it

So the pilot either panics or just turns around

[violet finch]

so how dose the paratrooper upgrade work for the blenhigm

[solid hinge]

Cause after I fire the flames I just swap to the 4 Mg’s

It makes it a mobile spawn beacon @violet finch

[haughty pawn]

if the pilot is smart he pulls up

[solid hinge]

currently, It's broken so it doesn't work apparently

Pulling up is actually stupid lol

I still steamroll

[violet finch]

for other people or just the squad

[solid hinge]

For anyone @violet finch

I’m pretty sure

Ideally it would be your entire team

I'm pretty sure that's what's intended

But it's supposedly broken

It’s a smart idea lol

Seriously?

It’s broken lol

[haughty pawn]

i have shot down over 300 planes with AA,the ones that get away are usually the ones that get out of range,aka go high in the sky

[solid hinge]

Isuni you just gotta get good lol

[haughty pawn]

or dive down if they can

[solid hinge]

By that point our plane usually has them

[haughty pawn]

i love to shoot planes with AA

[solid hinge]

I gotta stick grenades on my classes now

Or I’ve hit them so much they fly back to spawn

bleh

Why @solid hinge lol

Assignment?

Final TOW

Ye

Just do it in combines arms

[haughty pawn]

you can do the last tow assignement in CA

[solid hinge]

You couldn't pay me to play that

Run Support with hades

Nades

It makes it filthy easy

[haughty pawn]

@solid hinge

[solid hinge]

You could do all of the assignments with that

But I wanna do Hannut lol

[bronze grotto]

drop impact nades

[haughty pawn]

go CA,throw a grenade at 1.doese 100 dmg,let yourself be killed,restart 5x done

[bronze grotto]

good enough for quick 70 damage

on a single person

[haughty pawn]

i hate GO with all my heart,so that was the first thing i tried,what tow assingments can i do in CA

[bronze grotto]

i still havent armed an objective but fuck it

i have the archer

i feel less and less inclined to play bf5 tbh

[solid hinge]

Im bored of BFV

[haughty pawn]

time to lvl that archer,let's see if it's worth anything lol

[solid hinge]

I just want my TOW maxed just so I have it done

But that’s so tedious

From what I’ve heard the Archer is meh

However

[haughty pawn]

i don't expect anything of it

[solid hinge]

It does have a good 1hk radius

[haughty pawn]

skill tree sucks just from looking at it

[solid hinge]

From what I’ve heard

It’s a sniper tank lol

With big splash damage

[haughty pawn]

only thing i imagine it's good for,breaktrough aerodrome

[solid hinge]

Maybe not just that

Battle of Hannut Breakthrough Panzerstorm

You can just sit far back and pelt people

[haughty pawn]

dunno

[solid hinge]

Cause the Germans pushing in is a flat field

[haughty pawn]

brits are the attackers

german have the high ground

[bronze grotto]

archer having large splash damage?

[haughty pawn]

brits can get down to you and kill your tanks

with infantry,flank you

[solid hinge]

No

[haughty pawn]

dunno yet

[solid hinge]

Germans are attacker’s

Brit’s defend

[haughty pawn]

gonna try it with HE shells

[solid hinge]

On the new GO

So it’s a great testing ground for the Archer

[haughty pawn]

huh?when i played it i was attacker with my churchill

maybe it changes then ?

[solid hinge]

Pretty sure it’s Brit’s defend

I’ve done it like 4 times

And for Final Stand in it

[haughty pawn]

i done it only 1 time,i was brit and attacker

[solid hinge]

Brit’s defend

Trust me on this

Try it again lol

Germans attacking Brit’s defend

[haughty pawn]

i won't forget it ,trust me aswell,stupid assault killed my churchill

at the supply station

far behind the objective

downhills

[solid hinge]

Then you got oofed on

Feels bad

[haughty pawn]

was a squad of assaults camping around there kill off tanks

[solid hinge]

Oof lol

Ngl AT mines are great on the new op to

[haughty pawn]

wrote it in chat like 5 times,nobody cared lol

[solid hinge]

It’s a great way to get easy AT credit

[haughty pawn]

so brits lost all tanks and the game

from what i've seen/played defending is easy AF normally

attacking sucks balls

for this new GO

gonna give it another try to see that german/brit thin,who is who on the tank part

either it changes or can change,or i had a churchill as german

[solid hinge]

did you know that if you drive a stug off the twisted steel bridge into the river and it sinks, if you dive down to look at it, you'll burn to death

underwater

[dense bone]

only makes sense

[solid hinge]

Lol

That’s funny

Hey guys can I ask an opinion on a new Battlefield idea?

A Hardline 2 but with FBI/GIGN/SAS vs terorrists or something

Basically CS:Go but with the battlefield formula. can have makes and females

Makes and Females

*Males

[dense bone]

i like it, but at the same time... thats a pretty popular concept and will only be original in the sense that its bf formula

[solid hinge]

Damn...

This is it...

I completed the whole game

[dense bone]

mastery for every weapon?

[solid hinge]

The only thing left are the gold assignments

and i wont do it

[pale rain]

Lol there it is

I don’t blame you

[solid hinge]

its not worth my time

Do gold assignments in Frontlines

Or combined arms

I mean CA

[dense bone]

ya good luck getting golds for the model 8 and rsc

[solid hinge]

It’s easy as hell

Lmao

[dense bone]

that counts for golds?1

[solid hinge]

i have 31 gold assignments

Wait 16v16 frontlines ia back

God help me

Since when

[dense bone]

how do you feel about this accomplishment

[solid hinge]

That’s the only mode I’ll play now lol

Hmm

Should i do all the gold assignments

To keep it all nice and clean

[pale rain]

Wait you can get gold assignments done in combined arms?

[solid hinge]

Yes

[dense bone]

if you can cheese them then yea do it

so you dont have that asterisk next to your achievement

[solid hinge]

But damn

31 assignment

Thats a fuck ton of work

[dense bone]

youve completeled the rest of the game..

[snow crater]

i just got ran over a tank before the round started

[solid hinge]

Yes

[snow crater]

this bs needs to be fixed

on rush

[solid hinge]

I got the platinum trophy

All guns lvl 10 with mint

[haughty pawn]

lol,the archer really has back machine gun @solid hinge

and i was just 4 shot by a stuka

[dense bone]

i mean, you did mint...

[solid hinge]

mint is pretty easy

This is 2x the work

[dense bone]

if youre doing a completionist kind of thing, imo its kinda weird to skip golds

[solid hinge]

Hmmmm

I think i should do em all

[dense bone]

like i said, if i were doing this kind of thing, i wouldnt want a * next to my achievement

[solid hinge]

Fuck it all

Im doing it

[dense bone]

may god have mercy on your soul

[solid hinge]

Amen

Lets say every gun has 6 assignments

[soft storm]

Literally doing all the assignments I can for this TOW in Combined arms.