I was trash when I started flying the fighters
#battlefield-legacy-titles
cinder pond
bronze grotto
aerodrome only 
solid hinge
@solid hinge this is you when you just can’t do it https://youtu.be/NJrP6MoEeqw skip to 6:55
cinder pond
Not bad now but not great either
bronze grotto
i only made 3 infantry kills (kennedy seat gunners on other tanks) and one churchill got killstealed by a panzerfaust
solid hinge
If you play AA tanks it's a good way to get to grips with vehicle movement while being useful to your team
mystic wolf
i have a possibly stupid question.. do recoil reducing specialisations have any effect on hipfire at all?
bronze grotto
and the other churchill i can't fire back because it keeps knocking me out of position and i can't aim back at them
cinder pond
Yeah AA tanks are a menace to infantry. It’s just whenever I run them, I always encounter other tanks more than infantry
bronze grotto
like seriously tanks shooting tanks throw off the aim and position
i had a perfect shot on the turret all lined up, but the shot from the churchill knocks my stug back ever so slightly its gun depression can't aim at it anymore
and i have to move again, then get shot out of position
had to retreat
have engineer fixing me to 90 hp
cue the blenheim
solid hinge
MG42 is also ridiculously good
cinder pond
Yeah I feel as the Stug is too challenging of a tank
bronze grotto
removing me from hamada
cinder pond
Feel like you’d have better chances going against the heavies with a short, smaller tank
bronze grotto
ill eat my mcd and play another game fuck this
cinder pond
Course the British Valentine can easily mess up the Tiger if you get right next to it
mystic wolf
ITS LEWIS
cinder pond
Lewis is meh
solid hinge
When I play AA tanks i generally play them as actual AA and hang back behind other tanks
mystic wolf
it is lewis tho
solid hinge
wow what a video
cinder pond
I prefer the Bren if I go LMG
solid hinge
What kind of specializations do i have to put on my lewis
bronze grotto
and then it is just nuts
solid hinge
And with optical or not?
cinder pond
I haven’t gotten the full specializations for the Lewis so maybe that’s why it’s not too good for me
solid hinge
@solid hinge personally I get so much better results with the lewis than any other lmg
lewis seems to be the most popular
AA sights, focus on accuracy specs
at least i always get killed by it
cinder pond
That’s true
solid hinge
I don't really play support for long range so I don't like the bren
And the fg42 I've never been able to get the hang of controlling
solid hinge
The Lewis is really accurate and when it's bipodded it can shoot so damn far
Big mag
Decent enough fire rate
cinder pond
The Lewis was great on BF1, but I just can’t get the feel of it on BFV
shrewd grove
Lewis is overrated imo
Support is my main class and everytime I've used it it's just ehhh
It's damage feels very inconsistent imo
And it's hits in general
Something about it just never feels right to me
cinder pond
I can understand that
solid hinge
The lmgs to me feel like a class of guns where one is more likely to click with you than others
shrewd grove
Bren and FG42 are my main LMGs but I mostly stick with my MMGs unless I know I'll be far more mobile than usual
solid hinge
Maybe I just like the Lewis cause it has the biggest default mag
cinder pond
But, I do prefer MMG’s over LMG’s. I swear by the truth that the only gun that beats the MG42 with the rapid fire specialization in close quarters is a shotgun
solid hinge
Mg42 in cqc is frankly demonic
mystic wolf
I dont use Lewis at all because it feels like a boring weapon
even though it seems very versatile
I like to run FG-42 for sheer cool points
solid hinge
Lewis is a solid jack of all trades
cinder pond
FG42 is a monster in medium range
shrewd grove
^
mystic wolf
FG-42 is my 'im a support pretending to be an assault doo de doo da da' gun
solid hinge
If I'm going full tank support I'll use lewis
Fg-42 is to flex on medics with their feeble smgs
cinder pond
If im focusing on going after prime targets, FG42 is what I run. Scouts, medics, assaults getting way too close to an allied tank, etc.
God I love the Suomi lol
solid hinge
suomi is so fun
just back prone in a closet and its over
Suomi and Tommy seem the best smgs to me just cause they actually WIN in cqc
sullen crown
I really like the ability to lay down 100 rounds on a bipod with the lewis, as well as aim down sights standing.
hate getting caught moving between bipod deploys with MMGs, and hate running out of ammo with ke7/fg42
cinder pond
It’s like the Automatico, but much more focused on CQC
soft storm
FG42 with the AT pistol is assault but a bit slow
solid hinge
That's why I like the Lewis
cinder pond
Less damage to tanks, but that’s what the ammo is for
cinder pond
I just wish you could run ammo pouch and ammo crate like you could on BF1
I was a master of keeping everyone up on ammo, whether they wanted it or not
shrewd grove
MP40 is underated in CQC, I almost always win fights with that unless it's like against a Suomi or MG42 lmao
sullen crown
mp40 juggernaut anyone
solid hinge
I get my head shaved by mp40 the most
cinder pond
That’s true, I don’t run the MP40 usually because I run Suomi, but it was a beast when used right. Especially on that bridge in Amsterdam
shrewd grove
MP40 and MP34 are my main two, I've just been trying to grind the 40 a lot more lately
solid hinge
I value ability of the suomi to have 50 mag alongside fast fire rate
Between suomi and mp34 all your medic dreams can come true
cinder pond
Yeah
Medic is a great class with its SMG’s, though sometimes I feel like they should have some non-SMG primaries to choose from
solid hinge
All your medic dreams providing they take place within 70 metres
sullen crown
use melee with extended range as primary
cinder pond
Lol
solid hinge
The reinforcement vehicles are the ones u can call w the sqad points?
mystic wolf
Didn't one of the devs say medics were getting something other than SMGs?
sullen crown
tanker pistols from bf1 most likely
cinder pond
That might be interesting
dense bone
give medics slrs
solid hinge
And also that they're fucking shit
mystic wolf
whats.. whats a pistol carbine lol
bronze grotto
give p1912
solid hinge
C96 with a stock
dense bone
didnt someone say that the machine pistols were supposed to be super good
cinder pond
When they gave the assault the Frommer Stop Auto in BF1 I loved it
dense bone
kht i think
solid hinge
ye
mystic wolf
I hardly understand what a regular carbine is. Shit I've read is just like "its like a normal rifle but a bit smaller" and im like k
solid hinge
kht seems to be on top of all of it
cinder pond
Smaller round might be the distinction between carbine and rifle, I think
dense bone
but kht said machine pistols are gonna be op
mystic wolf
hmm
bronze grotto
a pistol named astra 9000 going to beat suomi he said
dense bone
you just said data says its gonna be shit
marble phoenix
i got more kills with melee weapons than pistols lol
marble phoenix
which i feel some way about
mystic wolf
smaller cartridge as in like pistol cartridge?
sullen crown
what's better about these pistols than the current smgs? what are the tradeoffs
dense bone
theres a difference?
cinder pond
Yeah, @mystic wolf
dense bone
idk guns
mellow scarab
hey
mystic wolf
coz like I cant imagine armies want to be manufacturing more than 3 different munition types
shrewd grove
I only think pistol carbines will be bad if you suck
solid hinge
Machine pistols are like full auto pistols
bronze grotto
give recons carbine pistols
mystic wolf
ah k
solid hinge
Pistol carbines are like sticking a stock and sight on a c96
dense bone
laame
marble phoenix
if medic gets any gadget that can destroy tanks, i'd swithc
dense bone
^
solid hinge
They're supposed to be new class of weapon for medic and they have godawful ttk
cinder pond
Like I’m sure carbines are usually automatic weapons that are more versatile than SMG’s, despite still running pistol rounds or something a tad bigger
solid hinge
I'm not sure who's getting machine pistols
cinder pond
Like the M4 Carbine is a decent example
mystic wolf
So regular carbines are .. Smaller versions of weapons that fire full strength cartridges, and hence use intermediate. Pistol cartridges are smaller versions of weapons that use intermediate cartridges, so use pistol cartridges?
marble phoenix
we coming up on the end of this chapter too, right?
mystic wolf
still a few weeks left i trhink?
cinder pond
Eh, the M4 fires decently big rounds actually
mystic wolf
id check but for some reason i cant check the TOW path ingame because DICE is silly
soft storm
I can’t wait to unlock the archer and then BTFO enemy tigers with my pitiful gun
mystic wolf
wait what kind of rounds does M1A1 Carbine shoot?
soft storm
.45
mystic wolf
aha
solid hinge
I'm assuming this is the kind of pistol carbine we'll get for medic
soft storm
So logistically same as the 1911
cinder pond
.30 for M1A1 I think
So I think the more accurate divide between a carbine and rifle isn’t round size, but use
cinder pond
Thanks
soft storm
Was thinking of the M1a1 Thompson
cinder pond
I think a carbine is just smaller, and is an intermediate between SMG and assault rifle
soft storm
Carbines were made literally to fulfill the size requirement that lancers on horses need, since they didn’t need a full length rifle
cinder pond
Thompson was .45, so close enough
mystic wolf
I dont understand this too well :< if medics would get a pistol carbine, and the M1A1 shoots .30.. and thats a pistol round yeah? then uh.. why is M1A1 an assault gun ingame? >_>
soft storm
And from there it got even more muddles
mystic wolf
I feel like im way off here
soft storm
The .30 is a light rifle round
solid hinge
im not sure the lmgs and mmgs were defined like that irl
cinder pond
Barrel size should be important too
soft storm
.45 is more accustomed to pistols and smg’s.
cinder pond
Barrel length I mean
solid hinge
so maybe they're throwing gun terms around for balancing purposes
mystic wolf
i keep getting mixed up about cartridge sizes and stuff
soft storm
Basically, cartridge size doesn’t even fucking matter in the game
cinder pond
Yeah lol
mystic wolf
surprised to just read that .30 is bigger than .45
cinder pond
They focus on use. It’s not a medic weapon because it isn’t automatic
mystic wolf
yeah im just trying to understand the firearms categorisation i suppose
soft storm
Remember we had the Scar H in the assault class with the same amount of mags as the M4 in BF4, even though the 7.62 weighs much more than 5.56
jagged vector
The in game categorization of the guns is purely for balance
cinder pond
I need to get BF4 again, still haven’t found the disc
solid hinge
The battle continues in full force on Day 2 of the Battle of Hannut in Breakthrough. Attackers will fight to take and hold the capture points on the map.
Defenders start in control of the map, but fortify them quickly! A poor defense can quickly cost you valuable ground.
dreamy patrol
anybody not getting the new tank after the challenge nerf?
mystic wolf
@jagged vector I wanna know about real life categorisation :p
jagged vector
Caliber and propellant power doesn’t carry well
soft storm
Maybe the tank traps and the gun placements but that sit
cinder pond
Fortifications are good for making you feel secure
solid hinge
hope you're looking forward to 6 tanks and 4 planes either side on panzerstorm breakthrough
cinder pond
That will be nice
solid hinge
mystic wolf
I feel like fortifications need a buff if only to stop the whack-a-mole meta in Conquest
if fortifications actually mattered, people might not want to just leave and go cap another point
they might gasp DEFEND
dreamy patrol
the last tank challenge went from 20 kills to 5 so I completed the challenge but haven't gotten the tank
solid hinge
Fortifications are decent, there's just too many assaults
cinder pond
Lol. I like fortifications sometimes because their presence allows you to recuperate
jagged vector
@mystic wolf the FG42, MG42, G43, & Kar98 all fire the same cartridge, 8mm Mauser
mystic wolf
after I gold everything I will be playing support like 95% o the time HEH
coarse thunder
Rule of thumb: Only build the fortificatiobs facing the enemy spawn
mystic wolf
@jagged vector well that doesnt surprise me.. why'd you pick that one to mention? We were talking about carbines
mint gets it
jagged vector
I didn’t catch the whole conversation
soft storm
Nerf the potential of destruction on assault versus fortified positions
jagged vector
The difference between a pistol & rifle carbine?
mystic wolf
yeahhhh
solid hinge
ive been running onto points after dying from the enemy pushing and my teammates are literally getting shot in the back while they make the fortifications facing our spawn
soft storm
Pistol is a low drag, but high potential gun in close quarters
cinder pond
I’ve broken that rule when I needed to build fortifications for an assignment lol
solid hinge
I don't understand why they do it
soft storm
Scratch that
mystic wolf
because I guess I assumed that rifle carbines use pistol cartridges
jagged vector
Pistol carbine fires pistol ammunition, usually small & straight-walled cartridges
soft storm
Pistol caliber is a high drag, high potential gun in close quarters
Basically, you can’t use it for anything outside of close quarters because the bullet will quite literally fall off
mystic wolf
how the hell yall know so much about guns jesus
jagged vector
Rifle carbines are essentially just shorter rifles. They usually fire intermediate to full size rifle rounds
soft storm
I mean, it’s kinda just physics
mystic wolf
what do you mean by 'the bullet will quite literally fall off' >_>
cinder pond
Carbines fit better for paratroopers over actual troops on the front
soft storm
Literally falls down due to the weight of gravity
cinder pond
Yeah
mystic wolf
but but that happens anyway
soft storm
The barrel length does not support the type of range
jagged vector
The shorter the barrel, the lower potential barrel pressure buildup = lower velocity projectile
mystic wolf
oh and if rifle carbines are essentially just shorter rifles, that means that K98 KURZ is a carbine! check mate hitler
jagged vector
Slower bullet don’t go so far
cinder pond
The more velocity, the further it goes before falling
mystic wolf
yeah I get that I just found the expression 'quite literally fall off' to imply some kind of special difference
when its just a quantitative difference rly
cinder pond
Lol
soft storm
Pistols are great as a defense weapon, but don’t give you much advantages compared to an SMG or PDW
cinder pond
Yeah, running the revolver is great when I’m in a pinch on ammo
Especially with only 50 rounds in the MG42, if somehow I don’t murder them in CQC, usually a quick round or two from the revolver will put them down
jagged vector
It’s lovely
soft storm
I actually don’t know why they buffed it
mystic wolf
yea revolver is just a 2nd primary
solid hinge
stupid revolver
jagged vector
Then again, all pistols should have very low ttk in cqc with headshots
soft storm
Yeah but the revolver has no TTK because it can OHK
solid hinge
Exploity
cinder pond
But the revolver is not good anything farther than CQC
solid hinge
The audio grts fucked
Everything
guns sound weird
not even bf4 revolvers were this good
Footsteps
Voices
mystic wolf
technology got worse 👀
solid hinge
it's just a bf1 revolver with bf4 damage
cinder pond
It’s the only revolver they have tho
solid hinge
stupid af
soft storm
Seriously, all they’d have to do is give us a sawn off Shotgun as a secondary
cinder pond
I wish
soft storm
And pistols would be the best CQC weapons in the game
jagged vector
It’s only a matter of time
solid hinge
if the primary shotguns cant kill
imagine what a 2ndary would be like
6 shot kill from 2m
cinder pond
The double barrel is the only shotgun worth running in my opinion
jagged vector
Primary shotguns can totally kill if you’re using slugs
mystic wolf
part of me hopes they add a light mortar as a primary for some class
which will just leave every single person doing that using the revolver
jagged vector
Well
solid hinge
There's no time for a breather as the Battle of Hannut ramps up on Day 3 in Rush mode on Arras: an relentless onslaught of 64 players where attackers fight to arm two bombs before their respawns run out, and defenders do whatever it takes to stop this explosive plan.
mystic wolf
mortar in one hand, liberator in the other, good luck soldier
jagged vector
There are larger capacity pistols and the Astra 900 coming to secondaries
cinder pond
Sometimes I try and limit myself just to that rifle round in the DB, and try to headshot people
It’s certainly a challenge but it’s fun
mystic wolf
i wonder if anyone still plays post scriptum..
cinder pond
If I had something to play post scriptum on I’d play
jagged vector
Well it’s not totally confirmed, it’s just in the category of “pistols” in the leak list
Separate from the carbines
solid hinge
good heavens
soft storm
All of those games that were supposed to fulfill the realistic combat niche that BFV wasn’t going to have almost died off
Only game I hear consistently is Insurgency Sandstorm
cinder pond
Machine pistol as sidearm
jagged vector
Chances are if it’s a full-auto pistol without a stock, it won’t be very controllable
cinder pond
Interesting if it happens
jagged vector
And it’s ammo count won’t be terribly high
solid hinge
The pistols already only function at like 8 metres
jagged vector
Per magazine, at least
solid hinge
I'd prefer a full auto as back up for that distance
cinder pond
Just enough to kill someone and reload
If they give me the Frommer Stop Auto, even without a stock, I’ll be golden
bronze grotto
inb4 the 17 pounder will do same damage as 6 pounder
solid hinge
we getting a 17 pounder?
bronze grotto
the archer
jagged vector
Yeah the 17 pounder on the archer is different than the 17 pounder on the CGC
bronze grotto
watch as the archer becomes an even bigger disappointment than the stug
solid hinge
just you wait
jagged vector
Are you implying that the stug is disappointing?
bronze grotto
i can feel it
cinder pond
Lol
soft storm
Dice won’t make good tanks anymore
solid hinge
It's literally an ass cannon
soft storm
They’re too fearful of the majority of the community complaining and leaving
cinder pond
The archer looks like a Marder
bronze grotto
my stug is bomber fodder once its not assault and tank fodder
jagged vector
You need better positioning then
solid hinge
If you don't have any AA tanks on your team then it's down to you
That's just how it be
soft storm
Imagine balancing a tank around it having a 360 degree MG port that doesn’t expose its driver
bronze grotto
its been an asspain with the stug and im still not getting good results compared to just lolrolling with the valentine
sad because the stug looks so sexy
jagged vector
How exactly are you using the stug?
bronze grotto
i want to love it but i can't
cinder pond
I just wonder if we will get to the heavier tanks. I doubt it though, unless they add them as hard-to-get reinforcements
bronze grotto
im doing camping shit with it as recommended
solid hinge
Turretless tanks will always be more at a disadvantage unless you're really always just peeking
you need that second gunner too
bronze grotto
the mg guy is unreliable because its not you on the gun
solid hinge
Yeah
cinder pond
Like I’d enjoy have the Jagdtiger as a reinforcement
soft storm
You just need to be very cautious
bronze grotto
the JT is just an even fatter cgc
soft storm
That 20 objective kills assignment was to teach you be very cautious
Use that same mindset with the StuG
bronze grotto
how do i position against a bomber
solid hinge
drive at a right angle to it
bronze grotto
because i just pulled out safely from an assault mob, took a tank, and have a good remote gunner
upbeat river
If you attack the bomber from the side or above
bronze grotto
then a blenheim invalidated me
solid hinge
Which map?
upbeat river
If you use speed attacking from under works too
bronze grotto
hamada
bronze grotto
i dont think edge of map camping in hamada is going to get me any fight
jagged vector
Camping on the EFG side of the bridge is a good place for stug
upbeat river
oh wait is this server only for bfv
soft storm
No
solid hinge
It's for all of em
upbeat river
oh good
native yoke
On the ground...eh not much can be done unless you have an eye on it. Moving targets are always hard on bombers
cinder pond
It’s difficult to spot good tank drivers when fighters are screwing with you
soft storm
Your only chance against planes as a tank is towing an AA behind you, or getting lucky with one of your tank rounds
native yoke
Even then dont go to the Prometheus school of running away from things (Aka dont drive away from a bomber in a streight line)
mystic wolf
CHRIST every time I think about this my brain goes "WTF". I can't believe this game has been out this long already and DICE isn't doing the most obvious monetisation shit. They could have been selling just fuckin' EMBLEMS and all sorts of dumb vehicle skins to start with at least and making some goddamn money.
upbeat river
do you have stationary aa guns in v
cinder pond
Slowing down enough to get a good view of the map in only one run gets you killed, and multiple runs have you flying around without doing anything
Yeah there is stationary AA
worn cave
@mystic wolf the boins arent ready
gotta get tumble-polished for a few more months
cinder pond
Limited range though, and usually bombed before anyone gets on them
solar ember
Hello,how can I get a weapon from the chapter 1 ?
upbeat river
but they can be repaired
mystic wolf
cmoooooon
cinder pond
Yeah they can be repaired
mystic wolf
I dont usually spend money on premium currency shit but I will get some boins because I don't want EA to be like "welp, its shit, dump it"
worn cave
ah I see
gray glade
any news on the stug bug?
soft storm
Imagine having to pay the company bribe money in order to keep them from trashing your favorite franchise
cinder pond
EA has fallen quite a bit
worn cave
Oh right, I still dont have it and it says I do, that'd be a bug lol
solid hinge
don't buy boins just cause you don't want em to dump it
tough stream
man the only reason im buying premium currency is that i want bfv to suceed
soft storm
Remember when all the youtubers were praising EA for having no premium pass and then a month later they realized how fucked that was
cinder pond
They’d rise back up in reputation and trust if they let developers do what they want. Though the situation isn’t easy, so it’s hard to label a side right or wrong.
tough stream
i mean i bought premium for bf1 and bf4 at full price
native yoke
You gotta restart the game to get new stuff apparnetly
tough stream
ugh its a hard situations
solid hinge
pls do not give money to EA for trashing the game you were looking forward to
mystic wolf
I didn't play BF4 or 1 and I dont really understand the premium pass thing..
tough stream
but its not trashed
coarse thunder
(Highly doubt this will happen) They could sell skin packs based on real units at the time
tough stream
ugh im conflicted though for real
native yoke
Preimum Pass was basocally good for all the DLC for free when they came out. But im glad they did away with it
cinder pond
If there is any true lesson in this, it’s that a company is bound by its stock holders (if they have them)
solid hinge
don't trust companies
worn cave
I didn't give a shit about how DICE's maps are all more obscure battles at first, or soldier customization, until I put 200 hours in and realized it felt nothing like the WW2 atmosphere I was hoping for before launch.
soft storm
Lol, Ea is making back all their money and stock from Apex
worn cave
now I'm kinda disappointed about the missed potential
tough stream
idk im down for a more obscure ww2 setting
solid hinge
A live service is supposed to guarantee content too, this is literally EA being greedy
cinder pond
I’d quicker blame the stock holders over EA itself. I refuse to believe everyone in that company is blinded by that crap of equality. Little to no women fought in WW2. The only notable case I can think of is the Russian women who flew bombers.
worn cave
specifically because we arent going to get another WW2 Battlefield for a long-ass time
jagged vector
I’m actually fine with the more obscure WW2 setting
tough stream
"live service" also means like 1 map a year like they did to battlefront 2
coarse thunder
Premium was one of the top 5 most hated things about Battlefield in general. It split the playerbase and the map rotation would straight up never go to some maps because no one liked them
jagged vector
Some of us have been playing the same 4-5 battles since Medal of Honor
tough stream
ya ^
worn cave
It might just be the random uniforms tbh, BF1 felt better with consistency across the teams
native yoke
I do like the slight alt history that Battlefield was establishing. (ie how named soldiers in BF3, BF4 had realtives in WWI)
worn cave
The maps are p great
cinder pond
I’d rather have them step away from some of the very common WW2 tropes like the bulge and D-Day, though I would’ve loved a Stalingrad Grand Operation if they will ever add something like it
tough stream
@worn cave could just be uniforms lol
solid hinge
They promised seasons and maps and guns and star cards for battlefront 2 and literally didn't deliver on any of them other than the maps at a colossally reduced rate
tough stream
thats why im burned
soft storm
Don’t remind me
solid hinge
That's why you don't buy boins
cinder pond
Never listen to what a company promises
worn cave
I mean it'd be a lot more dope to see an entire team of properly-kitted Germans defending a point than the whacky stuff we have now
mystic wolf
omg I just got a bayonet kill with the MP34
dense bone
thats why you play apex
soft storm
Are you daft
tough stream
^
dense bone
yes
cinder pond
I mean, No Mans Sky was probably one of the biggest let-downs in recent gaming history. But now, after a while of the game being slowly updated, it is closer than ever to what was promised and I still love the game
soft storm
That’s pouring water into a sinking ship
coarse thunder
The officer in the cutscenes for CA has a nearly entirely correct uniform
worn cave
I thought soldier customization was gonna be a lot more low-key with options being actual uniform implementations/slight stylized changes in clothing
solid hinge
I do not see how you can watch them fuck you over with a game and do the same thing to BFV and decide the best option is to throw money at them
tough stream
cause i like bfv a lot
mystic wolf
because there is literally no alternative? ;D
cinder pond
I don’t have money to throw away personally lol
tough stream
im conflicted
worn cave
not uhh a red jacket and a coat-full of small bombs
cinder pond
I love BFV as a game
tough stream
me too
native yoke
Aye
gray glade
@native yoke doesnt work for pc though
solid hinge
people bought cosmetics for battlefront and it's still lagging behind on new stuff
gray glade
i mean, restarting the game to get the stug
solid hinge
They literally ask for cosmetics to buy on a daily basis
tough stream
yeah but thats because the playerbase dropped 80% after launch
gray glade
really sucks that i got 18-19 kills out of 20...dice nerfs it to 5 kills and now i cant get the damn stug lol
native yoke
Yea im not sure how to fix that one e3e
solid hinge
It's star wars, it still has a lot of fans
tough stream
with TOW i think players will still play for new guns
cinder pond
Was it what we were promised? No. Is what I wanted? No. Is what it should be? No. Does it have a lot of issues? Yes. But I still love the game. Biggest complaint to me is that it’s getting kinda boring with the maps. Wish they would throw a few here and there while they work on DLC’s
coarse thunder
Don't see why they couldn't do the German Eagle on uniforms but carrying an iron cross instead of a swastika
solid hinge
The most dedicated fans are the kinda whales who will drop fat stacks to buy all the cosmetics you release as well
comic book nerds
worn cave
@coarse thunder I care less about specific symbols than overall style of clothing and headgear etc
tough stream
@solid hinge you're pretty much right
cinder pond
Honestly, why do they care about the Nazi stuff? Germany is one of the few if not only nations that cracks down on that
soft storm
Yeah cause they have disposable income from good jobs and no family
tough stream
^true
native yoke
Honestly i think BFV is the transition from WWI into WWII in an alturnate historical timeline. So we might actually see more recognizable stuff as the DLCs rolls out
coarse thunder
I don't either, it's just there's basically a complete lack of any insignia
solid hinge
Barely any cosmetics in either game
coarse thunder
On both Allies and Axis
solid hinge
It's weird
tough stream
triple AAA game has 5 cosmetics options
cinder pond
Like ignoring the horrors of the Nazi’s over recognizing them is worse to the dead and survivors
tough stream
weapon skins would be dope
they could make weapon skins forever and that would be cool
solid hinge
I wouldn't recommend buying boins just cause it'll still probably end up like bf2 and you'll get shafted for it
mystic wolf
whats all this about alternate history
tough stream
i might drop like 10 bucks on it not like 100 bucks
cinder pond
Cod WW2 at least freakin mentioned the holocaust. And I mean, BFV is mainly focused on the early War it seems but I don’t see them mentioning it in the end
tough stream
honestly for a game that doesnt like nazis, bfv goes pretty light on germans
solid hinge
I understand a lil bit of money if you see something neat you do actually want
gray glade
german does not automatically mean nazi
cinder pond
Yeah
tough stream
it did in 1942
gray glade
can we stop referring to all germans as nazis
gray glade
thats like saying all americans are now republicans
cinder pond
Lol
tough stream
or americans are trumpsters
native yoke
Aye
mystic wolf
there were heaps of German resistance groups 👀
tough stream
i know peeps are peeps but like i wish they would go in depth on the nazi war machine
cinder pond
I do hate the Norwegian war story though, it disregards the actual people who did an operation similar to it, especially since it was released around the time the guy died
tough stream
i thought they would do a war story about the child soldiers in Berlin in the last days of Hitler
would bhe interesting to see
native yoke
Plus cant finish the war story
cinder pond
Yeah that would’ve been great
native yoke
Goal character keeps spawning outside the map
tough stream
ya i like the Norweigian campaign cause of skis
cinder pond
If you could pull of a war story like that, well without shoving propaganda in it, and just focus on the reality and horror that they went though, it would make the game a whole lot better
soft storm
Yeah let’s have women and children get shot
mystic wolf
some ppl would still call that propaganda
cinder pond
Well when it’s actual facts
mystic wolf
:/
cinder pond
Maybe they should show the Allies bombing Dresden to high hell then
mystic wolf
you cant objectively depict history
cinder pond
You can get close when you focus that both sides committed horrors
native yoke
Aye. We need to remember WWII as it happened as well. A reminder to those who did lose their lives fighting for ether side and why we fought
soft storm
Nobody gives a shit about actual history, they just want to hear what they want to hear
mystic wolf
yeah but you have to make a choice about how ot balance who was 'worse'
cinder pond
And that’s the sad part @soft storm
mystic wolf
and then how you intend to depict it wont necesasrily be how it is received
native yoke
Not to say i dont like freereign stories or fictional stories during historiclal ssettings i love that
gray glade
some did worse things than others, but there was no good side in ww2
soft storm
Real history died decades ago
mystic wolf
yeh
cinder pond
I’d rather have at least one war story on both side showing messed up stuff that happened
tough stream
well we had to commit horrors as US, we had a "complete surrender" condition that required stuff like that
native yoke
But acting like it didnt happen is disrespectful for a historcial game accurate or not
tough stream
i dont like it
mystic wolf
everyone gets their history from video games and pop films
tough stream
but thats the political truth
mystic wolf
thats why everyone thinks the red army was undersupplied, and they had blocking battalions everywhere
foremost example in my mind for some reason
gray glade
i mean for example the allies declaring war on germany for invading poland (great!), didnt declare war on soviet union for doing the same to poland, finland, estonia, latvia and lithuania
cinder pond
Like the Last Tiger was pretty PG, just showing the Germans hanging their own for what they considered cowardice. But if they could show the allies bombing Dresden to the Stone Age, then they would have to amp up against the Nazi’s
tough stream
its all politics
cinder pond
Unfortunately
tough stream
but they countries got better at propaganda to jsutify the war
mystic wolf
@gray glade thats kinda reductionist
gray glade
its true tho
mystic wolf
...
gray glade
soviet union did all those things
tough stream
or the German rapes by the russians in 1945
cinder pond
Yeah. UK invaded Iraq in WW2 didn’t it as well? Didn’t the USSR and UK also do something to Iran
tough stream
no one talks about the rapes
mystic wolf
but its not really a meaningful statement is it :p
it actually misdirects, while also being true
and you can do that with history
cinder pond
Yeah no one talks about the horrors the Soviets committed. If you wanna look at the actual horrors of WW2, you look at the holocaust, the bombings, and the eastern front
gray glade
yeah eastern front was very dark
stark badger
The World War Two Channel on Youtube is great. If you want week by week history in real time following the war.
mystic wolf
well.. it was a war of annihilation
stark badger
There only like 3 months in.
mystic wolf
for the ussr anyway
stark badger
*they're
soft storm
The only companies that will depict real terror and very real topics are those outside of the US
mystic wolf
imagine going to war, knowing that if you lose, everyone you've ever met would be exterminated
cinder pond
I’ve read a lot of books that do their best on being as factual and unbiased as possible on the war, and sometimes when it was going through the eastern front, I had to put the books down and go break something
gray glade
i wonder if we're gonna get any more war stories, would love to see one from asia
eastern asia that is
soft storm
Why would you want dice to spend more time on stuff that nobody plays
solid hinge
I smell a discussion about warcrimes commited in ww2 🤔
@soft storm the warstories were awesome in BF1
cinder pond
Like none of us were a part of WW2. But just knowing what happened on the Eastern Front, I can get very close to understand why they fought so savagely against each other. It’s hard to not get caught up in the sheer rage that the soldiers had
stark badger
Most of these updates have been bug fixes, wondering when we are gonna get a big content update finally. A real update.
solid hinge
But they screwed it in bfv
cinder pond
The BF1 war stories were meh to me honestly
soft storm
Nobody plays the damn singleplayer stuff unless they have no internet, the game is still downloading, or when there’s a prize at the end
cinder pond
Yeah that would be cool, but won’t happen
stark badger
Read about what the Japanese did to the Chinese. That's horrible as well. Not one front was worse than the other. It was all bad.
mystic wolf
i actually dont understand why the germans faught savagely against the reds
gray glade
if dice makes war stories with the same care as "last tiger" i would support them doing more as long as it doesnt affect multiplayer too much
marble phoenix
A Pearl Harbor map would be crazyyyy
cinder pond
There would be no infantry combat for Pearl Harbor though.
solid hinge
Read about the rape of Nanjing
jagged vector
Lmao
tough stream
they'll make coral sea again for planes
stark badger
Pearl Harbor wasn't even a battle lol. That map wouldn't make sense.
cinder pond
Yeah @solid hinge the Jap-Chinese Front was terrible as well
mystic wolf
yeah
tough stream
maybe the battle for manila
solid hinge
True
gray glade
battle of singapore
marble phoenix
oh yea non fictional is what we're after
tough stream
lots of jap battles during that time period
cinder pond
Maybe a grand operation that goes with the operations that Japan did around the same time as Pearl Harbor
tough stream
^
cinder pond
People tend to forget that the Battle of Singapore, Invasion of the Philippines and other US-British islands, and Pearl Harbor was a giant coordinated operation
gray glade
afair the brits got their asses whopped at the battle of singapore?
tough stream
its cause pearl harbor gets over exxagerated
when more people died in the other parts of the operations
solid hinge
@cinder pond That would be great. I mean the grand operation in Rotterdam never happened so DICE can do that too for bfv
cinder pond
Yeah
stark badger
Finland holding off the massive Soviet Union invasion would be awesome.
cinder pond
Yeah Finland was dope. Maybe a war story about the White Death?
bronze grotto
dice Dutch and french uniforms pls
stark badger
Snow skis
bronze grotto
deleting the dutch from battle of Rotterdam kek
solid hinge
Oof
mystic wolf
did youse see my periscope post on the sub
worn cave
Pointe du Hoc where you spawn in "airborne-style" but are climbing a giant rope net instead of jumping from a plane
solid hinge
The white death was 1 hell of a sniper
worn cave
pls
tough stream
i wish there were more uniforms that were factions rather than the generic uniforms we got
so i can rp french soldier
cinder pond
It is funny that it’s the British fighting at Rotterdam in BFV when I don’t think the British were actually there. Though I don’t care that much for it, I’m not that stuck up on the history
tough stream
with RSC
well they team is supposed to be the Allies so really the Dutch are supposed to be at rotterdam
worn cave
@cinder pond well they're dressed as Americans and edgelords so are they really even british?
tough stream
but thats too much Voice Acting to make happen for one map ig
cinder pond
Fair enough
tough stream
"oi m8 im bleedin out ova here"
cinder pond
I mean, Britain fought well in WW2. But they would’ve never got as far as they did without the US or USSR.
tough stream
cmon guys its DICE interpretation of WW2 dont look at facts
stark badger
None of them would have gone far without any of them. they all needed all the fronts.
cinder pond
Yeah that’s true
cinder pond
USSR is the only nation that comes to mind as the nation that would’ve fought their damndest against the Germans because the sheer horror of the eastern front. But the Soviets would not have reached Berlin before the Americans without American trucks lol
mystic wolf
big respecto for the red army
stark badger
People forget that the USSR and Germany were pretty much allies and signed deals to cooperate with trade and not intervene with each other. While Germany invaded poland the USSR invaded Finland.
solid hinge
Yes u have to die to use that
worn cave
I just want operations to feel like BF1 operations ;^(
mystic wolf
Oh dont gimme that USSR adn Germany allies bullshit
solid hinge
I called it 8 times in a row and i can t use it
mystic wolf
thats so wrong its offensive
stark badger
That's not wrong.
mystic wolf
It is wrong and you should be ashamed
solid hinge
Even if i am in a solo team i csnt use it
cinder pond
Well yeah they were allies, but it was such a false alliance. Stalin believe that the Germans wouldn’t attack, but they did. Their ideologies were too different
stark badger
They were'nt allies officially. But they agreed to not intervene with each other.
cinder pond
If they had fought together against the allies, it would’ve just ended in a Cold War scenario except the US is replaced with Germany
mystic wolf
I mean fark Stalin was the one trying to get everyone to attack Germany before they got too strong
solid hinge
@stark badger You know what’s bullshit? The germans always said that they conquered Europe in order to save them from the ‘red plague’ (soviet communism) but like u said they made a pact in the beginning of the war with them
mystic wolf
and he gave up on that plan because nobody would do it
runic seal
who is this commie XD
upbeat river
rush blyat
tough stream
damn commies always ruining everything lol
upbeat river
frick
runic seal
yea
cinder pond
Of course they did @solid hinge lol, they would’ve been slaughtered in the Allies worked with the USSR against them
stark badger
They literally signed a deal to see who gets what early on.
mystic wolf
tis just realpolitik
cinder pond
Especially before they got a bunch of France’s equipment
runic seal
commies know as much of history as i know about sex
mystic wolf
👀
upbeat river
but didn't the French have bad equipment
solid hinge
I can’t stand those stupid arguments from neo-nazi’s 
mystic wolf
you must have a lot of sex
runic seal
french had good equiqment
cinder pond
French arguably had better equipment than Germans
runic seal
problem was communication
cinder pond
Tank wise
runic seal
yep
upbeat river
No, their problem was also strategy
cinder pond
Yeah @runic seal , they didn’t use their tanks like the Germans and their strategy was flawed
stark badger
Germans had the aircraft.
gray glade
france had pretty good tanks
upbeat river
they gambled and lost the bet
runic seal
their strategy was sound but beilgium fucked them up
and that the huge german gamble succeeded *ardennes
solid hinge
One of the french heroes of Verdun in ww1 switched sides to in WW2 and became the leader of Vichy France 🤣🤣
cinder pond
It was both. They didn’t have the technology to coordinate like the Germans did, and they used tanks as infantry support rather than themselves, which meant that the Germans could’ve moved faster
gray glade
the german military leadership was honestly quite impressive I think, to do as well as they did considering the circumstances
cinder pond
Yeah, German has the best amount of good tacticians
I mean Rommel, Manstein, Guderian, Model, etc
runic seal
if you guys are intrested in these topic discussedin depth there is TIK and chieftain in youtube
upbeat river
well, they didn't quite have sound strategy. The French assumed that the Germans wouldn't be able to traverse the mountainous regions to the south and bring tanks with them, but that's exactly what they did.
soft storm
The issue was that the rest of the world only had radios in their command tanks. Germany was different and had radios in all their tanks. That easily allowed them to coordinate and blitz effectively across Europe
soft storm
It wasn’t until later that the rest of the world realized “shit that’s a good idea”
cinder pond
Yeah, Germany was up against a wall on ammo and supplies as well. They needed to win quickly, and that’s what they did
solid hinge
Rommel was not part of the battle of france
ancient ocean
Weren't they also just 1 way radios?
cinder pond
Rommel was part of the battle of France lol
solid hinge
Nope
soft storm
Radios are radios, better than signal flags
runic seal
rommel was part of the france xddd
runic seal
yea
gray glade
in belgium
runic seal
dude
cinder pond
Ghost Division?
gray glade
yeah
runic seal
thats why he got the gig in africa
weak violet
Sup
solid hinge
But was not so important
cinder pond
Yeah Rommel proved himself as an infantry commander in WW1, then as a tank commander in France. They sent him to Africa because he ruled there, it was a supply situation that screwed him
solid hinge
Not TOO important
weak violet
How is everyone doing
solid hinge
@cinder pond exactly
runic seal
gray glade
@weak violet im furious!
cinder pond
The British were too cautious throughout the war, especially in Africa
weak violet
@gray glade and why are you furious?
cinder pond
Though I guess they did have fair reasons to be
bronze grotto
time to suffer the stug again
cinder pond
They did smash France quickly
gray glade
cuz i spent several hours to unlock the stug, but it bugged
so now im waiting for fix
from dice
weak violet
They smashed france like the thot she was
solid hinge
And they tried so hard to secure france in ww1
runic seal
im so disapointed that they put stug iv and not the real deal
weak violet
Where is muh abrams
bronze grotto
pls gib stug driver control for the remote mg dice please please
even the cgc is better
runic seal
please give us stug 3 ausf g
gray glade
yeah stug3 plz
stark badger
We need some submarine gameplay if dice really wanna shake things up
weak violet
So is the new tank bad
gray glade
its an assault gun
runic seal
i mean yea panzer iv was already modeled in game but cmon, its not that much more work
ancient ocean
That 360 mg on is cool but you only have a cannon for the driver so it's a forced squad tank
soft storm
All the tanks are bad, it’s just that the ones that don’t suck as much shine brighter
weak violet
I mean, they do get fucked by everything
stark badger
The small Panzer and small allies tank are the best, What are you Smoking??
bronze grotto
the cgc is less squad dependeny than the stug
stark badger
AP rounds for the win
weak violet
The 50 assaults on the enemy team, the planes, other tanks, AT cannons
soft storm
I said the ones that don’t suck so much are alright
weak violet
So they really can not survive long
runic seal
WHERE IS MY SHERMAN? By far the best tank of the war
soft storm
You still get fucked by an assault panzerfausting you from 100 meters away
weak violet
@soft storm I am saying what they get fucked by
soft storm
Assaults, Supports, Pak guns, Planes, V1/JB2’s.
solid hinge
@runic seal tIdEs oF wAr
weak violet
@stark badger Dude you know those assaults will snipe you with the pazerfoust
ancient ocean
I mean I've had multiple games were I've gone like 30-0 with staghound with an auto cannon.
gray glade
the question is, when we get the sherman, will it be the "default" sherman or the firefly
runic seal
i8ts so cheesy xd
soft storm
You have to be more cautious than a Christian girl on her prom night
stark badger
You just gotta know when to move in and when to move out.
runic seal
ive lost to staghound many times with a tiger
the visibility is so shit in this game and that thing is so mobile
solid hinge
best tank buff would be taking the sniper rifles away from assault
gray glade
if you lose to stag hound with tiger you are too close
weak violet
I mean like the shell the tanks fire do shit fuck to infantry
solid hinge
then maybe ppl will stop playing assault for the op guns
weak violet
In BF1 you could shoot into a room and heavily damage infantry
runic seal
and infantry should know if one was in the field, and do everything to destroy it
weak violet
its like these are super soldiers
bronze grotto
tfw tanks went from terror in bf1 to a score pinata in bfv
stark badger
What drive me crazy is when people drive close to the enemy with the Tank BUster. It's a long range cannon!
runic seal
yep
stark badger
Tank buster in the right hands is op af
weak violet
carrying 3 panzerfoust, 3 dynamite, and a fucking AT nade
bronze grotto
remember that bf1 at gun was basically a rocket mmg
gray glade
tigers are mostly long range snipers now, which i kind of like, it feels fitting
bronze grotto
bipod only lul
stark badger
Tank Buster has unlimitied ammo as well
runic seal
what is tank buster
solid hinge
the class is absurd
stark badger
T48 and I forget the other
solid hinge
you shouldnt be able to rape tanks as well as be able to go toe to toe with every other class
stark badger
Your squad leader calls it in.
runic seal
oh the pakwagen_
?
stark badger
ya
runic seal
yea yea
ancient ocean
Does people actually carry panzerfoust over the PIAT?
runic seal
those things are suicide xd
weak violet
I mean that squad reinforcement has unlimited ammo and can fire into a area as long as the driver does not go into the fight
stark badger
and unlimited shells
gray glade
i use panzerfaust
ancient ocean
PIAT is better
gray glade
cuz i cba lobbing shots
runic seal
pakwagen might be really good in panzerstorm if you have 1440p or 4k screen
weak violet
really?
solid hinge
just wtf is wrong with this game
ancient ocean
PIAT is anti tank and anti Infantry.
stark badger
Piat is a noob tube
weak violet
Its drop rate is cancer
runic seal
on fhd i dont even bother to hurt my eyes anymore, i just bait myself and wait for the enemy to start laser beeming at me
tacit kelp
Also it's really hard destroy stationy weapons when they are not in use
weak violet
Nice you can stick 3 dynamite on the back of the tank, and then fire the panzerfoust
ancient ocean
It's not that hard to line it up. Also don't you mean light tanks
solid hinge
every single thing about the assault class is everything wrong with the game
weak violet
and fuck medium tanks
midnight nimbus
PIAT is 👌👌👌
ancient ocean
You can do that with the PIAT too
tacit kelp
One assault can take Valantine tank
runic seal
gewehr 43 is so op
stark badger
You spend a lot of the time running across these huge maps and you get piat'ed....... f that
midnight nimbus
cleanse the world of the fortnite construction and campers
weak violet
I mean tanks get fucked in this game, so its not much of a achievement
idle rampart
I'mma be shocked if this game lives until the BR
ancient ocean
One assult can take anything
solid hinge
not only that
weak violet
I honestly am hating the G43 users
solid hinge
but the aiming on the tanks is now disastrously bad
tacit kelp
More than 20 assaults in team Dice didnt see this thing or what?
solid hinge
if you dont aim with the scope then there's this disgusting jarring acceleration
gray glade
my pet peeve of the day is when i'm driving my tank, trying to remain unseen, but my gunner shoots EVERYTHING
he's firing at the sky, at the ground, at the bushes
midnight nimbus
G43 isn't even that good lol
marble phoenix
so the player base now is all the hardcore players? we ruling causal play out now?
idle rampart
I was saying assault was too strong and medic was alright long ago, but people kept telling me gitgud
midnight nimbus
compared to other SARs
idle rampart
assault was way way too utility in this game
ancient ocean
Ap rounds gave good velocity.
stark badger
Apex really put Battlefields BR too higher expectations. DICE must be sweating bullets now lol.
runic seal
g43 is so good if you have good aim
solid hinge
assault is basically the default class
runic seal
and steady fps
weak violet
Yeah, feels like you can 1 man army the whole enemy team tanks
solid hinge
and all the other classes revolve around it
midnight nimbus
but if you have good aim... just use AG m/42
unkempt briar
assault is the least fun class to play
idle rampart
the BR will be almost dead on arrival, promise you
midnight nimbus
^
idle rampart
nobody is going to pay even 20$ for this with apex out
weak violet
I don't got good aim, but a decent computer
midnight nimbus
Apex Legends is killing it
idle rampart
just stop
yeah apex is so solid
go play that for 30 minutes and tell me its not so well done
stark badger
I can't imagine BR being better then APEX right now. It's gonna fail so bad................. too bad..... another lost battlefield.
marble phoenix
yall wouldve paid for Apex?
idle rampart
oh by the way its fucking free
solid hinge
another lost bf?
idle rampart
I would have.
solid hinge
bf1 is doing great tyvm
weak violet
I love the light tank in BF1
soft storm
If Activision is considering making Blackout free, you’d think EA would want to do the same
midnight nimbus
> BFV sales make EA stock drop 18% in one day
> Apex Legends makes EA stock go up like 27% with its release
idle rampart
I hope apex pulls a riot and focuses on new skins
solid hinge
i somehow have a much bigger itch to play it despite already putting in over 500 hrs
idle rampart
I'll support custom skins
midnight nimbus
rumored non BR modes in Apex >>>>
tacit kelp
Bf1 kills Titanfall Apex kills BFV revenge? Its the same studio
stark badger
BF1 online players has always been low af. compared too previous battlefields, (ahem except Hardline) lol
idle rampart
bf1 did not kill titanfall
main grove
Did they nerf the 12g auto
idle rampart
:P:
midnight nimbus
BF1 online count was fine during its life cycle
main grove
I cannot do good with it to save my life now
idle rampart
titanfall killed titanfall
runic seal
whats your kd guys?
midnight nimbus
TF2 just isn't as good as TF1
dense bone
apex needs work on netcode, the game is so fast though its hard to tell the shortcomings though, firestorm is gonna release with 60hz servers while apex is at 20
tacit kelp
Too high
idle rampart
60$ is too much for a non-franchised, seated game
midnight nimbus
average player doesn't care about networking
ancient ocean
Go to bot smap and lcgeck your stats
marble phoenix
one person here, admitted they'd pay for apex
dense bone
they dont notice because they assume they suck
ancient ocean
Check*
midnight nimbus
and Apex TTK is very forgiving of bad networking
stark badger
Apex is gonna get so much more EA focus. All the money it's gonna bring in compared to battlefield is gonna be ridiculous.
midnight nimbus
well yeah look at jobs
marble phoenix
i feel like it deserves an asterisk beside it's rating cause its free
midnight nimbus
DICE is bleeding talent, Respawn is throwing out job postings like there's no tomorrow
idle rampart
DICE is as good as dead IMO
midnight nimbus
people are leaving DICE
idle rampart
they died when BF3 was launched
runic seal
i wouldnt want to work in that enviroment
midnight nimbus
Respawn is hiring like crazy
soft storm
Respawn lost like a quarter of its workers after Titanfall 2, about 12 got hired by infinity ward
dense bone
dice still sold at least 7 millions copies.. while not good relatively, its still a lot of sales
runic seal
they are obviously political
stark badger
The fact that a free to play game is beating battlefield and it's only been out for a maybe a month is sad.
main grove
Apex was successful because there was no marketing to begin with
midnight nimbus
unless next BF is BF3/BF4 2.0
stark badger
The marketing was on twitch
marble phoenix
yup its free and snuck up on everyone
dense bone
a f2p game beating non f2p... how is that sad? its f2p
idle rampart
Apex is successful because Apex is WELL DONE.
marble phoenix
who doesnt like a surprise?
midnight nimbus
Apex is successful because it's a good game lol
main grove
No one was there to hate it before it even got released
stark badger
so many twitch streamers were playing it with #battlefield-legacy-titles
main grove
Like with BFV
idle rampart
its a fucking solid game, it plays smooth and I've yet to have a moment I felt robbed via gameplay
bronze grotto
holy shit match ended at 19/20 assignments ree
idle rampart
BFV just loading a menu I feel robbed
midnight nimbus
the ping system is some of the best communication done in any game
stark badger
with hashtag ad i mean
marble phoenix
Apex = Borderlands
idle rampart
its the same UI from the last game I paid 60$ for
tacit kelp
Now its hype wait 2-3 months me could be death
stark badger
Apex = titanfall you mean
marble phoenix
Borderlands got one of the greatest loot systems in all games
midnight nimbus
they playtested the game in house with zero voice comms for a month
idle rampart
they did a great job and deserve praise
marble phoenix
the robot on apex = Claptrap's cousin
midnight nimbus
the non verbal communication is incredibly good, and that matters in a MP game
idle rampart
it plays amazingly well
stark badger
The greatest loot system is World of Warcraft get it straight
midnight nimbus
meanwhile, BF nukes its only form of non verbal communication
gray glade
whats this deal with apex ping system being so well done, i havent played it
soft storm
You don’t have to use voice chat at all in apex
main grove
Now EA is going to shut down dice in favour of Respawn
stark badger
And diablos loot system
soft storm
That’s how good it is
marble phoenix
i will admit
gray glade
but why is it good
soft storm
You can ping anything
marble phoenix
cause it can ping damn near anything
stark badger
Because the ping systems allows you to communicate effectively without talking to 10 year olds. Or them insulting your MOM.
soft storm
And your characters also speak about what you ping and what you’re currently doing for your team to know
bronze grotto
wew the game ended when I'm at 19/20 objective kills
weak violet
In BF1 i love the light tanks, I was a person who mostly played operations as a light tank, in a average round i could get 10 to 20 kills and 10,000 points. Using the light tank it felt good and i was not forced to go back into my base for more ammo.
midnight nimbus
people don't wanna use VOIP if they don't have to, VOIP with randoms sucks and always will suck
weak violet
With the light tanks i felt like it was much more fun, and that i could help the team more.
stark badger
VOIP with randoms do suck, agreed. The ping system is so you don't have to conversate and get into toxic comms.
weak violet
BFV light tanks not so much, they feel weak compared to the light tank in BF1
tough stream
toxic comms are what make bf great
stark badger
While still being able to communicate well.
main grove
“Flatline here also ur mum gay”
soft storm
Not to mention they also have text to speech options for text chat
midnight nimbus
first thing I do in BF is immediately mute everyone else
ancient ocean
Staghound is OP.
weak violet
I have about 1,253 kills in the light tank in BF1
midnight nimbus
I don't wanna talk to people who I'm not already on VOIP with on discord
weak violet
@ancient ocean Really i felt like it was kinda weak
stark badger
Imaging BFV with the ping system. DROOL
main grove
I’m just worried with what’s going to happen with dice
ancient ocean
@weak violet have you used the auto cannon on it?
soft storm
Imagine BFV with literally anything Respawn put in Apex
stark badger
any FPS really with ping system would be great
midnight nimbus
no