maybe its easier to just copy paste model or texture elements
#battlefield-legacy-titles
coarse thunder
Except the Type 100
sudden siren
The welgun was?
little fjord
No delisle or bar š¤ or flamethrower
fathom pebble
Nothin new tbf. Aside one or two from that list
little fjord
Delisle could be like an smg but single fire only
half wolf
@coarse thunder But Type 100 isn't a fucking modification of the MP28 so at least it's different in that respect
echo glen
bazooka pls
coarse thunder
Exactly
echo glen
or the arisakas
coarse thunder
This damn update should not be still taking 20 minutes
half wolf
Like, why the Lanchester? Why not the Owen Gun, or later Sten variants with foregrips and such, or suppressed Sten variant
fathom pebble
Russian guns wont appear this early
half wolf
And even if we were sticking with early guns (which we clearly aren't since we have the FG42, MG42, STG44, and the Volksturmgewehr
echo glen
operation Barbarossa!!!
sudden siren
The russians will come out soon
sonic rampart
imagine the outfits for the russians
fathom pebble
Soon lmao
echo glen
ushanka
sonic rampart
Slav tracksuits 
sudden siren
Soon tm
sonic rampart
Jk
echo glen
slav tank helmet
half wolf
@fathom pebble And yet we have the STG, Volksturmgewehr, and other late war guns
And even still there are Commonwealth/French/German SMGs we dont have yet
fathom pebble
Cba they trying to contain between german and British used weapons
half wolf
MAS-38, Delacre ModĆØle 1936, etc
fathom pebble
Instead going all across the board
coarse thunder
They threw the "chronological order" out for weapons and cosmetics obviously
fathom pebble
But still there's french weapons too
echo glen
for the russian tanks I predict T-34 medium, T-60 light, k-v1 heavy with su-76 td and halftruck aa\
echo glen
half wolf
If you wanted to throw out chronological order, how about the suppressed commando stens, or the Sten MkIV, or the MP 3008
fathom pebble
Half the team gets weapons
sudden siren
They should add the Mauser C96
little fjord
Maybe Russian character models
fathom pebble
The other half a ammo mag
sudden siren
Genuinely surprised that wasn't in launch
fathom pebble
Yeh the c96 could comeback
lilac pasture
definitely
coarse thunder
More revolvers too
echo glen
yes
fathom pebble
Same for the MLE think itbwas used in ww2
lilac pasture
M1917 Trench Carbine would be cool
fathom pebble
Dont remember
torn willow
I still await the garand
lilac pasture
Extended C96
fathom pebble
I hope the garand is as bad as the model 8 
Everyone asking for it then no one uses it
strong parrot
brb literally going to fite joker in the face
fathom pebble
Garand is overrated weapon
fathom pebble
Because ww2
echo glen
garand is cool ping!
fathom pebble
Some people only know the key words
echo glen
the reload sound is amazing
strong parrot
did you know the americans only fought 2-3 tiger1s during the war? 
echo glen
tiger p hur dur
sudden siren
Guys I spotted the first thing DICE broke
fathom pebble
Yeh because the germans forgot you need gas to move vehicles
sudden siren
Running and sliding with a pistol out doesn't do the dual-hold animation
strong parrot
Yikes....german jokes
fathom pebble
I wasnt even joking
strong parrot
fuel lines were a disaster this is true
lilac pasture
"Don't invade big snowy place in winter" 
fathom pebble
I was talking about the fact they were limited on oil/gas reserves
solid hinge
Just got the 20mm mosquito
solid hinge
I take back literally everything bad I ever said about this plane
fathom pebble
China numba won
strong parrot
not Taiwan?
solid hinge
this is ridiculous
fathom pebble
China 2
little fjord
Numbah four
sudden siren
Guys
solid hinge
everything just dies
sudden siren
I just came up with an idea
solid hinge
absolutely everything
sudden siren
What if medics dropped health packs instead of ammo packs
strong parrot
Pretty sure that idea was said during the beta
torn willow
They don't drop ammo packs though
fathom pebble
Dude
Everytime you shot a medic assisting a injured or dead man
You actually breaking rules of war
little fjord
Bragging rights for whoever bayonets all the enemies in combined arms
fathom pebble
torn willow
Damn
silk stag
But that's the best time to shot them
strong parrot
thats why as a medic you run out in the middle of a fire fight to revive someone and get them killed again 
silk stag
It's like they're beggin for it
coarse thunder
You wait for them to revive them then kill them both
fathom pebble
coarse thunder
Hey, it's legal
fathom pebble
If he has a weapon on the hand yes
lilac pasture
throw incendiary on them both
fathom pebble
No Satan
little fjord
š²
lilac pasture
The funniest thing is to throw incendiary on someone camping with MMG
fathom pebble
Good they deserve
lilac pasture
They just start struggling to run away lmao
coarse thunder
Time to bang out some assignments and CC
fathom pebble
U should also call a V1 on him
I did that once the guy was pissed cuz I did it just for him
lilac pasture
I prefer to miss the V1 and make the squad mad
strong parrot
implying he has enough skill to get the points for a v1 
fathom pebble
And ruined like 10 families flats for that
Take out the whole block in order to kill a mmg user
strong parrot
I baited people into shooting at me from the twisted steel bridge...while i watched my rocket coming in for them 
fathom pebble
Caring the fact u about to destroy alot of flats where people live
solid hinge
i found out today that people who strafe single infantry targets on the ground are the kind of people who probably kick dogs irl
rose gazelle
There is no matchmaking for combined arms?
solid hinge
I did some bombing in a stuka earlier and the people who's bullets i could see literally only rendered in when I was about 150m away from the ground
Bombing on console is pain
torn willow
I thought bombing was difficult in general
Well, in a fast af plane it's not that difficult
But I find it to be difficult if you're in an actual bomber
solid hinge
I can't see anyone
zenith zinc
Hello. How is everyone? I have been somewhat active in the forums, and was recently advised to come down to the Discord
dusky saffron
@solid hinge well, can confirm that picking up enemie weaps dont destroy them
torn willow
But nahhhh they prefer sitting in their nice little hole getting them headshots. Cause K/D is more important than actual teamwork amirite?
dusky saffron
except for snipers
torn willow
welcome faith
fathom pebble
@zenith zinc Welcome 
torn willow
I keep having this glitch where whenever I die with a certain recon weapon (I think it's the Z.... with another 3 letters or numbers) I spawn with a new weapon with a scope
solid hinge
@dusky saffron enemy g43 was a one hit to the body!
zenith zinc
To be fair.. that is all some classes like the Support can do. there is too many Semi in the games to really try rushing with an LMG or MMG. 2 to 3 hits to kill is a rough thing to be up against
dusky saffron
mp40 was like a 4 hit
so was the sten
maybe certain guns do more damage then intended
zenith zinc
takes me 10 to kill with the FG 42.. all body shots
sudden siren
The Gewehr 43 is still OP
Now just gotta wait till it gets nerfed
At least the MAS and the G15 aren't cancer anymore š
sudden siren
Lolno
zenith zinc
G43 is 3 hits to kill. dont even need to headshot. ZH29 is 2 shots
midnight nimbus
MAS has like 5m less of HS+BS ability
half wolf
The MAS has zero recoil anyway
torn willow
as recon
zenith zinc
regardless it isnt the only thing wrong with the game.. something I was trying to warn about in the forums. I think this game could of been done better by giving defined roles. as it stands, its a free for all
what I mean is something like this.. Fortifications are basically a waste of time. Assaults get enough explosives to wreck half of a well built fortification. if AT explosives was removed from all classes, and rolled in to a dedicated class like Anti Tank.. I think things would of gone better. the Anti Tank class would get to use weapons like the M20 Super Bazooka
sudden siren
The G43, revolver, Turner, and M1A1 all need nerfs
Then balance is ok
But the MP34 needs a buff
solid hinge
tfw getting 6x scoped by someone with no glint
are they so far away they just despawn or sonething
half wolf
Super bullets are still a thing. Super-high ROF semiautos like the M1 carbine still kill instantly for me
solid hinge
He bodyshot me and I was literally looking in the direction of the hit marker
got hit by the dude who was about 5 cm to the side of where I was aiming
no glint
couldn't see him
zenith zinc
no it wouldnt be. the balance would still be out of whack. not just on that level, but, on the vehicle level too. I think out of all the things in the game that should have a dedicated role.. it would be vehicles (as highest priority). I am new here.. is a Google Chart link ok to post?
sudden siren
All Semi Auto Rifles need nerfed bad
I think I'm honestly out of things to do
I have all the guns in all the classes I use mint
I have all the SMGs gold
I've finished every class assignment
I literally have nothing left to do
I'mma go play Battlefield 1
but it's a worse game than 5
Just 5 lacks content
fallow mountain
the tone and theme of Battlefield 1 was better imo
torn willow
I think the SLRs are fine, i just have a problem with how Assault has access to them and are bassically recon Jr's
solid hinge
@sudden siren a lot of "I" in that speech 
torn willow
Some of them need nerfing though, like the Z something something 2 shots
sudden siren
A lot of edginess in that name and pfp 
torn willow
I agree
solid hinge
torn willow
That's a joke right?
torn willow
They aren't garbage from my perspective, I do quite well with them
solid hinge
slrs are pretty much inferior semis
torn willow
Well, I disagree, I think SLRs are perfect for close-mid range combat, whereas semis are more mid-long range
sudden siren
Are among the worst guns in the entire game
torn willow
ZH gets 2 shot kills what do you mean?
Are you saying the recoil is ass? Cause I agree if it comes to the model 8
RIP
I feel sorry for whoever tried to post that
half wolf
71 kills, all of them headshots
š¤
That's not sus at all
zenith zinc
That was me. I guess Google Charts arent allowed after all.. even for a BF V discussion
sudden siren
Recoil, capacity, rate of fire
rocky verge
Playing all combined arms on difficulty
sudden siren
Reload speed
rocky verge
Eazy with medic
solid hinge
It gets 2 shot kills and it doesn't have the fastest fire rate
torn willow
I think SLRs should be left alone but they need to be tweaked for assault, they are too good
sudden siren
I will always stand by what I've been saying since day 1
zenith zinc
yeah that is the issue. I think a small fix for the Support class to help with the current imbalance with SLR's.. is to put the guns to historical accuracy. FG42 to 750 RPM, Lewis Gun to 600, and the Bren to 540
torn willow
Ability to destroy vehicles, fortifcations, infantry with a single dynamite stick, outstanding CQC weapons, and now they have access to ranged rifles
sudden siren
Make SLRS and Shotguns all class
torn willow
Right
Medic needs more weapon categories.
Actually no, I think all classes should have access to the same amount of universal weapon categories
zenith zinc
that would make things worse. as I said, classes should have a defined role.. as I gave the example with removing all AT explosives from classes, and making a dedicated Anti Tank class that uses the Bazooka
rancid cypress
Happy valentine's day folks
sudden siren
Okay.
torn willow
Happy pre valentines day for my timezone
torn willow
Burgers are underrated here
zenith zinc
right and I am saying remove it from the Assault, Bakoo. I am saying make a new class called Anti Tank. one that uses the Bazooka or equivalent weapons as the Primary
sudden siren
ameriga da gradest gundry on eard :-DDDD
torn willow
It should just be called "Fortnite/Airpods/Apex Legends" Land
Since people are ejaculating over those so often
Yo soy guapo xD
There would be no point because assault has always been the anti-vehicle class
solid hinge
Yeah
zenith zinc
there would be. with it being the primary weapon, that means the Bazooka can be refilled by Ammo Packs
ancient ocean
Your don't get what anyone is saying
torn willow
It would function better as an Assault gadget
Making another class dedicated to anti-tank would be useless and make it less unique, becuase the assault class we have now already has access to like, 3 or more gadgets used to destroy vehicles
Why would anyone use another class that's hte same thing, but has a Bazooka?
jagged vector
What I believe is being said is:
Limit anti-tank weaponry to a class.
Meaning that regular assault no longer has access to it.
torn willow
Are Bazookas even WW2 accurate?
solid hinge
there is no way in hell they're making another class
zenith zinc
I get what they are saying. dont assume. I already said remove the stuff from Assault. the other Compromise I would be willing to make, is have the Support be the dedicated Anti Tank. it is a heavy weapons class as is
solid hinge
they've already made it based around a 4 man squad with 4 different classes
I hate playing defense on breakthrough
zenith zinc
Yes Bilgervti gets it
jagged vector
Yes bazookas were developed in WWII
torn willow
I see your point, faith, and I would agree but the 4 classes have alreardy been established
Ah okay
solid hinge
Always on the team with the bonehead monkeys
jagged vector
They were based off of the German panzershreck
jagged vector
Meaning āarmor/tank terrorā
zenith zinc
Ok fine so make Support the dedicated Anti Tank. give it the option for the LMG, MMG, or Bazooka as primary weapon. remove the AT from Assault and other classes. it would reduce the amount of explosives spam we receive in the field, and in vehicles
torn willow
The problem is that it's always been established though, most of hte battlefield community is used to the Assault being the anti-tank guy
Making such a large change like that seems unlikely
zenith zinc
well then they need to suck it up because the way BF V is now.. it is on the way to the grave. there is hardly any balance, and due to the lack of assigned roles, things are going to get out of hand quick
torn willow
I disagree. I think the game is going to turn out like how battlefield 1 was, shit at first but then overtime develop into an enjoyable experience
BF5 is already enjoyable, if it wasn't than no one would be playing it
It has bugs, yeah, but DICE is already making it a priority to fix those bugs
Bugs AKA Balance issues, other issues
zenith zinc
you do realize it has been on sale for half off for months right? it went down in the records as the earliest sale for a full AAA game. there is clearly an issue in one capacity or another
soft storm
Happy Virgin Day
torn willow
Have you considered that that was because of the way EA has advertized it to be? The sale drop was most likely because of how they bassically insulted the people they were selling the game to, and told them "not to buy it if they don't like it" and it worked. Not to mention that the trailer was not recieved well at all, which could have also been a deterrent to previous battlefield players.
I don't believe that the entire reason that it's sales are half sale for a month is COMPLETELY because of the game state
solid hinge
Bad press over the campaigns. Also that one liner
Last Panzer was god tier though
Last Tiger, wever
I liked that one a lot
torn willow
it was pretty gucci gang
zenith zinc
perhaps. I never said it was the entire reason.. I did point out that is an issue in one capacity or another. if you want further evidence look at Twitter and reviews. most people wouldn't touch BF V for 60 USD
solid hinge
It felt more like the BF1 war stories than the others
torn willow
True
solid hinge
And i loved the BF1 ones
round turret
what game mode is the fastest to earn company coin?
torn willow
BF1 war stories were better in my opinion
But I have no idea, there was not as many people screaming "THIS IS HISTORICALLY INACCURATE" so i didn't take the time to look into the accuracy with the BF1 war stories itself
midnight nimbus
SARs should remain as-is
torn willow
Just pray you'll get more than 100 a game, Edward
round turret
i mean i'm just confused
torn willow
I'm in stage 5 poverty with CC
round turret
at the lack of transparency
torn willow
And I"m still level 50
solid hinge
I think the problem is the female japanese cyborgs or whatever- and not as much because of Angry Joe mobster mentality as much as Battlefield 1 starts out with like 12 player characters dying in muddy trenches to the tune of narration
round turret
they don't make it clear
torn willow
True
round turret
what you have to do to get more or less coin
solid hinge
Battlefield 1 was war
torn willow
I think it's score based
azure lark
Yes, based on score
round turret
@solid hinge it sold it better
solid hinge
And i think that BF5 is... Probably not as bad as people ree over
solid hinge
Just different than a gritty WW2 trench war
round turret
still felt like fun silly battlefield
torn willow
I LOVE how the message about war in BF1 was handled, much more so than in this game. I agree with you, Aysa, it did seem more like a war
icy sluice
I just found out the last mastery assignment for the bolt actions, lmao fuck that shit.
solid hinge
Which is what Last Tiger did perfectly
zenith zinc
I can agree that a game shouldnt be 100% realistic. Almost no one would touch that. HOWEVER, I think it is a good reference point for how to do the game. Let me give a BF V example
In the Google Chart I did, I pointed out which vehicles should of been used and their roles. for the UK, I said replace the Valentine with the Crusader. The Crusader was the British Tank that could take on a Panzer IV. Playstyle would be a fast moving light AT gun basically.. Good Armor, Good Speed but, low damage cannon that is compensated by a fast reload time
That right there, would of provided a unique playstyle, and caused a difference between the UK Medium, and German Medium
torn willow
Yeah, i hope they make more stories that are similiar to that
solid hinge
We need a German campaign at the start of the war imo
round turret
also, how much score=how much company coin?
torn willow
I want to see DICE take on the Rape of Nanjing (Nanking*?) in war stories
That shit was brutal
solid hinge
Nanking
torn willow
Nanking, thank you
torn willow
"It"S TOo GRaPHiC"
solid hinge
Some say it never happened
torn willow
"It"S ObJECtiFCATIon TO WeoMen"
solid hinge
Like if Iām right, I donāt think the belligerents have officially said they did it
I'm still holding out for Assassin's Creed to kill Hitler
soft storm
Itās literally just women and children being shot
torn willow
"NO SwASTiCAs OR MenTIon OF GenOCide"
soft storm
If they do any more single player shit I swear to god
torn willow
You know what, I might actually search and see if Nanking actually happeend
solid hinge
Show the horror of it through a guards perspective
soft storm
We donāt need anymore singleplayer stuff
solid hinge
I donāt mind the singleplayre
solid hinge
It could of been done better
Like I got bored of the first 4
Last Tiger made me wanna play it again
Not just for the skin
soft storm
The many outweigh the few
torn willow
If all the war stories prior to the Last Tiger were as good or better than the Last Tiger, than war stories would be outstanding
Better/Accurate
solid hinge
Yeah
My thing is
They should of had all the stories done st the get go
Including Last Tiger and any future ones
And focus on MP
We have 8 maps, 9 for conquest since Panzerstorm
1 new map since launch
But a lot of weapons though
solid hinge
Think about it: Hitler and the nazis are templars that want the Apple of Eden because godhood and then the Assassins go and kill a bunch of generals and then the last guy himself. Put in some mad German science, wonky tank missions and you could portray them as super bad, the assassins as good and you've filled pretty much every pseudohistorical check box Ass Creec could want
sudden siren
Guys
solid hinge
Yeah but we only get 1 more by the time Greece hits
sudden siren
Anyone here played Resident Evil 4
torn willow
I want to play the most recent resident evil along with 7 but my comptuer is actual dog shit
solid hinge
RE4 was good but it was too good. 5 and 6 shudder brought it too far towards action
torn willow
7/Reboot
sudden siren
Cus it's the greatest game ever
solid hinge
K
sudden siren
Besides Silent hill 2
solid hinge
I prefer PT thank you
If anyone remembers that you not dumb
Can you run Fallout 4?
Can you run Fortnite\PUBG?
torn willow
i think the most complex game I can run at minimal settings is The Isle
solid hinge
What are benchmarks?
torn willow
Judging from the minimal specs on a PC needed to play No Mans Sky, I have the equivalent to that
torn willow
Yeah I think it's unreal engine that runs on The Isle
It looks beautiful so I assume it is
midnight nimbus
honestly, a lot of the BF community is better off playing RS2V
that sounds like the game people are asking for
midnight nimbus
Rising Storm 2: Vietnam
teal phoenix
Rising Storm
midnight nimbus
i wish EA would let BFH go free to play
solid hinge
IMO if you donāt have Rising Storm
torn willow
BF4 looks too gloomy for me
midnight nimbus
would revive the game enough to make it playable
torn willow
I can't play it
solid hinge
BF4?
torn willow
yeah
maybe it's cause i'm on console playing it but I can't take how dark it is for me
azure lark
I wish EA would allow Dice to drop everything and focus on the best 64 player multiplayer experience they can create
solid hinge
Oh right
azure lark
Fuck everything else
solid hinge
I want Battlefield 1942
torn willow
It's a good game but I can't really play it for a long time. The same thing applies to Skyrim, i guess after playing it for a while it becomes an eyesore for e
me
torn willow
most, including myself, believe they bassically rushed DICE to release the game
solid hinge
Ah I thought you meant gameplay wise
azure lark
How do we know itās Not their fault?
torn willow
I'm not completely believing that theory, but knowing the douchy shit EA has done in other games It wouldn't be surprising
solid hinge
The game was rushed to compete
torn willow
if they had
solid hinge
Imo
Honestly if this keeps going downhill, they should go to Bf1 and give it a Op Outbreak treatment
midnight nimbus
everything wrong with gameplay isn't a result of EA
azure lark
The game was delayed yet still rushed lol
torn willow
The game launching without much content I blame on EA
solid hinge
delayed twice
torn willow
All other bugs in the future, I believe, is DICE's fault
solid hinge
Wel
midnight nimbus
lack of content isn't a problem if the content you have is good
torn willow
True
solid hinge
tfw you try to drive your sturmtiger onto the point but the amount of your team just standing in front of you body blocks you and you lose
@torn willow The Isle is UnrealEngine 4. I have reason to believe that if you turn down lighting and resolution and stuff you can probably run 7\Remake. Go to the Steam page for 7, they have a demo (and 2 does as well)
If you can run the Demo
zenith zinc
I blame the industry or people. I was a Beta Tester for 10 years. back in my day, games were quality, and people demanded it. these days things have gotten too relaxed
solid hinge
You can run the game
torn willow
I'll try it out. Thanks for the advice
midnight nimbus
i mean tbf, DICE is bleeding manpower
solid hinge
Wdym @midnight nimbus
torn willow
@midnight nimbus I disagree. People expected BF5 to be a WW2 game (it is) but it leaves out noetoric battles like the invasions of Normandy (primarily on the beaches), Battle of Midway, and many others.
solid hinge
Are people leaving
midnight nimbus
tons of people are leaving, and Respawn has tons of job openings
torn willow
Thanks @solid hinge
zenith zinc
honestly it leaves out a lot of things. I did my best to explain why. whether or not people understood is another matter
solid hinge
tfw you wait for a plane spawn and both your planes come in without the counter going up once
@torn willow I agree. I like the idea they had for it. Take in some not known battles. However, I figured theyād do major ones to you know?
torn willow
Agree 100
solid hinge
@solid hinge screen doesnāt reset as quick. If you wanna have it reset just spam pause and unpause.
Imagine losing the first part of hamada breakthrough and moving their countdown to 497 from 500
@torn willow Just Stuka dive bomb
torn willow
RIP
solid hinge
@solid hinge seriously? That's dumb as shit
Yeah
EA is known for being scummy and DICE just makes the game. Realisticly I think that any blame you guys have probably is going on the wrong heads, although your guess is as good as mine
zenith zinc
imagine getting camped by a team of mostly Semi Auto's.. fun times sarcasm
torn willow
Yeah but I want to level the big boi bombers
solid hinge
As they said, dont like dont buy
If anything you should already be doing that
That's actually good advice to consumers
torn willow
Anyone ever lose a game of conquest on BF1 in only 11 minutes or less?
solid hinge
@solid hinge It doesnāt refresh the same for everyone. Every player has a different refresh. So that guy who just died sees it first and takes it. But you sitting there for 2 minutes doesnāt since it doesnāt refresh for everyone at once.
For you to refresh it continuously you gotta pause and unpause.
Battlefield 1 is probably still my favorite Battlefield after 3 (although i'd probably reset my stuff because i was new af and didnt know what i was buying with warbonds, i hate that system across the board, not just EA)
(its my major complaint with GTA actually)
Can we not have artificial currency for weapons
And upgrades
DICE plz
Seconded.
torn willow
I'd rather just unlock the attachments and stuff through progression
solid hinge
Just go back to the BF4 formula. It actually to skill to do it and dedication
solid hinge
Battlefield 3 formula*
Eh
I prefer 4 to 3
Idk why
Battlefield 4 i suck with the starting gear and idk why lol
The starting gear is great lol
The AK-12 is a god send for accurate boys
Make a pseudo-DMR
dawn flame
I like bf4 gameplay more and bf3s maps more
solid hinge
I'd like to not have to use a sniper rifle and unlock iron sights, i'd like to have pistols that arent outgunned by any other weapon i dont have
I want more Metro cause that map is good
solid hinge
Lol I
half wolf
Bipods feel even worse than the last patch
solid hinge
Nah
half wolf
now they undeploy on so many things
solid hinge
The progression wasnāt that bad
dawn flame
i want to play 64 player bf3 so a ps4 remaster would be so cool
midnight nimbus
especially as most guns had one best loadout anyways in BF4
solid hinge
Well, you could always counter it lol
Me and my AN-94 were beasts
@solid hinge Metro was great. I loved BF4ās with the deterioration
strong parrot
what?! but bf4 had so many weapons and different ways to customize your weapon surely there just wasnt a cookie cutter this is best in slot item for X weapon and only a handful of weapons were ever useful anyways
solid hinge
I just suck with what I'm given to level with and in BF3 i picked up a gun and could work with it because loadouts were a bit more forgiving to start out with and because my first experience wasnt an M60 killing me in spawn
It always kept some action going on
dawn flame
my favourite map on bf3 was wake island and metro.
midnight nimbus
BF4 weapon/attachment balance was lol tier
solid hinge
@solid hinge that is SO lame
dawn flame
man we need wake island on bfv
midnight nimbus
like if you're using the AEK with anything but comp+stubby wyd
solid hinge
In BF4 guns are more workable and customizable but it takes more effort for a beretta to be good
midnight nimbus
comp+stubby on a lot of guns in general was the best possible loadout
solid hinge
@solid hinge Nah. It was enjoyable. I loved boosting weapons to get Service Stars to.
solid hinge
Otherwise its just a beretta that sucks
Wake Island wonāt come to BFV
Iām willing to get
Not the boosting! I mean the plane shit
But people already have a G18 pimped out
Bet
Plane?
Are we talking F-35ās?
So a pimped out G18 will always be better than a beretta with nothing
And thats what i hated about 4
solid hinge
I hated BF1
I felt so restricted
@dusky saffron what's your loadout for mp34? Guessing RRRL?
Yeah but maybe it worked better when the game wasnt full of shitbuckets (colonel 100s)
I just want a baseline weapon
And then adjust if I wanted that scope or not
I didnāt like buying. The same weapon like 2-3 times
BF1 sucked because trench varient and sniper varient were- yeah
strong parrot
you didnt need to be lvl 100 to have a upgraded g18..
solid hinge
I'd buy one thing and it'd suck
Plus even at that point
Everyone only used one set variant
But then i'd buy another thing
Like you tell me if people used suppressive LMGās
lilac pasture
How do you suck at bf1
dawn flame
why not Min? I think it has a good chance been in many bf games
midnight nimbus
even with some meh variants, BF1 still has the best weapon balance in the series
midnight nimbus
in BF1, Low Weight was just the best LMG variant
lilac pasture
but then telescopic entered the battlefield
midnight nimbus
but you could still make a case for almost every weapon in BF1. can't do that with other games as much
midnight nimbus
dude BF3 has like 5 guns
solid hinge
Thatās fine
midnight nimbus
each with one loadout
solid hinge
Iād rather have just 5
solid hinge
If I have a Beretta and you have an upgraded Glock 18 who wins in BF4? You. If I have a beretta and you have a glock in 3 its up for grabs. Now imagine a beretta versus an entire army of Glock 18s and suppressive LMGs and to counter the latter i dont have a good assault rifle yet
midnight nimbus
every Madsen and BAR variant was worth
solid hinge
Almost
strong parrot
are you talking about the m9 beretta
midnight nimbus
every SMG but the M1919 and Annihilator Storm was worth using
strong parrot
93r?
midnight nimbus
and the SMG08 Optical
strong parrot
the other full auto pistol?
solid hinge
It'll be better if i can suppressive assist, it'll be better if I grind, but i'm basicly staying if I start out with shit expect me to do shit
BF3 that was not the case
BF4 it was
SMg08 optical was great
for meme if
Memeing
azure lark
Is the screen supposed to get blurry when youāre suppressed? Because that never happens to me.
midnight nimbus
shit DPS š¤¢
solid hinge
So if im doing shit in one game and better in the other, i favor the other where i can not be shit
Actually....
The Kolibri is great lol
@solid hinge B23R can outdo the G18 if you donāt spam fire
If your still going on about that
midnight nimbus
no, 93R in BF4 is supposed to be spammed
solid hinge
Maybe it's just skill based but i'm clearly not doing good at 4x zoom but if i ever unlock iron sights i'll probably be good with a sniper
midnight nimbus
BF4 has fast SDEC
midnight nimbus
click as fast as possible
solid hinge
Nah
midnight nimbus
for everything but semis, ironically
midnight nimbus
why do you think pros microbursted
BF4 = click fast, spray against people who are good
strong parrot
not complaining about balance?!
solid hinge
I'm making a point about 2 different games, not saying "i cant counter Glock 18s"
strong parrot
lmao thats all youve been doing about the g18
solid hinge
Its an example
Dont be literal
Oh
I thought you were going on about g18 v b23r
And supporting beretta
No lol
I mean if you were thatās how I do it lol
I was using 2 examples- starting pistol and unlock good pistol
But i thought it was the M9 (its not)
Oh
(its the B2)
strong parrot
so you were comparing a semi auto vs a full auto?
solid hinge
I got you now. Apologies
M9 is great for spamming ngl. Itās a great swap to
And applying the same logic to the unlock bmack
Heres another one
Lets say i unlock the 50 cal sniper rifle
Idk which one
Has a scope, right?
midnight nimbus
gating for unlocks in general is stupid
solid hinge
In Battlefield 3, you have the 4x scope and an iron sight
midnight nimbus
the most I'll defend is currency gating, like in BFH
solid hinge
In 4 you unlock iron sights
I cannot use scopes at all ever
The way snipers work in FPS make scopes infalliably unusable for me
I can use Iron Sights though
Usually i'm alright with reflex too (but not in BF1 for some reason)
Basicly
Recon is basicly hard locked for me in 4 until i learn how to use a 4x scope and not die cause they can see me first
An appreciated feature but since i suck in something like CoD without scope glint
Gonna die first here
So it's basicly ticky things like that that make life a lot harder in 4
solid hinge
Cant get DMRs until i level up Assault or wever
And i cant get a good Assault setup to not die
Because... Idk, half skill and half not having actually played 4 as much
marble phoenix
Aku was my shit
solid hinge
I only have like 1 so... I understand playtime is too low to complain extensively
But having played 3 and 1
I know that balancing with weapon attatchments is a bit weird
You use what you're good with
meager helm
Ace 52 with recon was so nice in BF4, c4 / spawn beacon ftw
little fjord
Yeah the carbines were legit
solid hinge
Deal with it until you unlock magic
And in 4, an assault rifle isnt gonna unlock pistol XP eithee
So thats the other complaint i sorta have
You only have 1 or 2 options until you earn more that are tenatively probably worse until you unlock attatchments
little fjord
Pistol boost kit and sniper rifle boost kit are an option... so are vehicle boost kits
solid hinge
Yeah but i dont have like 20 bucks
So yknow
Thats just a paywall that exists and "buy it or dont"
rocky verge
Bf5 the new gamemode combined arms
solid hinge
Ah
solid hinge
Is it fun
soft storm
just like real life germans
solid hinge
Well if they werent annoying but easy they'd either be just annoying or just easy
I'd say the fun part (being yes) means its worth
little fjord
I think support might be the most noob friendly class in bf4
little fjord
With extra ammo capacity you can prefire every corner and doorway
rocky verge
Combined arms
solid hinge
I'm the panda in 3 who likes giving ammo, giving medical stuff and spamming explosive ordiance at chokepoints
So i'm probably assault
I mean support
little fjord
Yeah healing and ammo are ez xp
rocky verge
Anyone?
solid hinge
I also like a good kitted out SKS
Spotting is fun
It was my favorite in 1
In 3 i cant seem to manually spot
In 4 i can but not consistently
Although 3 was fun because of spawn points and prox scanners
rocky verge
Solo combined arms eazy and medium mode but hard needs a squad
rocky verge
Lel
rocky verge
Nani
rocky verge
cerulean finch
the footsteps are broken again
strong parrot
jfc....19-27 squadmate sniper
strong parrot
50-16...its ok the ag is balanced guys
rocky verge
And I have a notification of xbox law enforcement
So I cant do crap until the 17th XD
Talk, message that's about it
strong parrot
you dont even have to hit heads
rocky verge
@solid hinge no
strong parrot
semis are so fucking stupid you can just body spam
rocky verge
My account is fine
solid hinge
Idk what u mean then
rocky verge
Just I cant messege or talk
strong parrot
although I did head shot kill 2 enemies at one point and then took out the 1911 and HS the third dude on it in about 2 seconds
he called hacks on me
i fucking knew he would
3 headshots in a row thats impossible!
we started off like dog shit on aero too....german side didnt get C at the start
couple mins in were literally 100 points down from them bleeding tickets because the allies get to camp the high ground in tanks..
and they had snipers everywhere 
and then won by 100 points lol...because we had 4 caps ..they threw so hard
solid hinge
Sometimes they camp so hard they don't even retake the point if you sneak past them
marble phoenix
rocky verge
?
civic sun
they fixed ttd right?
soft storm
He smashed a dudes windpipe while on fire. Fucking metal
civic sun
What do you guys think about combined arms?
civic sun
For me, it's meh I think they could have done a much better job and make it more intresting
interesting*
dusky saffron
if the ai wasn't garbage
solid hinge
Which one do you guys like more bf1 or bfv?
civic sun
Im split
Bf1 had better maps
tanks
pkanes
planes*
Felt more realistic
You could see the lack of color
solid hinge
Combined Arms is boring as fuck. They had to make it like bf3ās coop
civic sun
Felt like an actual war
solid hinge
bfv feels more fun to play despite the lack of everything
civic sun
yeah
civic sun
bf5 is that type of game that you hate yourself for liking
solid hinge
Operations felt more chaotic than grand ops
solid hinge
Ikr
strong parrot
why would I hate myself for liking it? its superior gameplay compared to the others
civic sun
It's just better
Not hate
But for me, im like "damn why tf am I playing this game."
It's the gunplay probably
solid hinge
Grand ops is bs. You will fail the whole game if you lose the third day despite winning the first 2 days.
civic sun
bad argument
solid hinge
I hate snipers...
civic sun
They fucked snipers mastery assignments
strong parrot
isnt there another lee enfield coming up for a reward wep?
real moth
thts what i wanna know
civic sun
Now you can fucking do them in combined arms
solid hinge
When do we get other factions?
civic sun
I just finished all 5 of my kar98k assignments
You guys should start gold plated your rifles
solid hinge
I want the soviet union in it
strong parrot
most of my shit is objective based
civic sun
Oh well
solid hinge
Or japan
civic sun
Yeah same
im not a sniper main per say
I just got it to level 20 just to get it to level 20
solid hinge
Medic master class!!
civic sun
oh and those cosmetics are dope
Medic is ass
Medic has to be the worst class in the entire game
they have 1 or 2 good weapons
solid hinge
You mean support
solid hinge
š
civic sun
42*
solid hinge
Awwwww
civic sun
I can easily go 55-3
solid hinge
I fucking hate that weapon
solid hinge
Proning in a corner with a MMG or LMG is not good
solid hinge
Iām already good look at my stats if you want
civic sun
You have to go prone
solid hinge
Thatās boring af
solid hinge
Yeah
civic sun
The bad players will camp in one spot for the entire game
good players (such as myself) know where the enemies are at all times
solid hinge
But I like to go for the objective and kill people constantly at other places
civic sun
and can correctly position themselves to take them out
solid hinge
Are you on pc?
civic sun
naw, ps4
solid hinge
Same
civic sun
cool
solid hinge
Whatās your spm and kd?
real moth
@lunar lion yo ever since the new BFV update, me and all my friends have been notcing a lot of lag! any word on a fix
civic sun
Im more of a passive type
solid hinge
Your spm is good š
solid hinge
Mine is 548.63 and kd 2.63
real moth
shut up
solid hinge
Lmao why
real moth
i dont have bad wifi
solid hinge
SANITĆTER
midnight nimbus
BFV is such a low SPM game like y
real moth
first of all who the fuck plays on wifi
civic sun
I could get a better kd
solid hinge
Use a ethernet cable ffs
civic sun
all my classes in this game are level 20
and my KD took a big toll
like by .20
mostly from playing the worst class in the game
medic
solid hinge
Whatās your win percent?
civic sun
5%
solid hinge
I play every grand ops except Hamada
solid hinge
....
The combined arms itās alright but itās boring playing it by yourself
Nice trolling
civic sun
all you have to do
is press one button
and get 5 kills
constantly
bombers are way to easy to use
too
solid hinge
Everything was easier in bf1
civic sun
me and 2 other of my friends
would operate a 3 man bomber
I would man the front gun
and rain fire on that emeny team
solid hinge
Until
solid hinge
You can still go back to bf1
civic sun
they do like 9 damage
it's dead
no one plays it
I tried playing it
used the autoloading rifle
solid hinge
The next grand op is Greece right
solid hinge
No
solid hinge
Belgium
civic sun
no, it is going to be greece
solid hinge
Tank Battles
solid hinge
The maps are panzerstorm and Arras
civic sun
I only like the sturmtiger and churchhill
sturmtiger attacking on rotterdam
easy 50+ kills
300mm rounds
You cant fail
solid hinge
Grand ops Battle of Hannut is coming out this month
solid hinge
Or Siege of Berlin
civic sun
thats later in the war
solid hinge
Or fucking RSP