StG wasn't broken in alpha or beta
#battlefield-legacy-titles
midnight nimbus
amber notch
midnight nimbus
it was just super easy to tapfire
solid hinge
agreed
strong parrot
Lul
strong parrot
Yeah it was totally balanced
midnight nimbus
ofc it was strong... it was one of the only guns in the game
strong parrot
If it was still like that people wouldn't run semis...
midnight nimbus
i'm all for bringing back Beta StG so it can compete with semis
shrewd grove
Remember when you could put it in semi auto during the closed alpha and it would become a sniper rifle
solid hinge
its ok being invisible on the ground and using bipoded mg42 is ok..
but stg in beta was broken ok
midnight nimbus
it's pretty much as accurate now as it was in beta in semi auto mode
just harder recoil
shrewd grove
Ye
solid hinge
meta that forced player to lay down all the time really good idea.. said no one ever
midnight nimbus
universal automatic weapon buff pls
shrewd grove
I've never had to resort to laying down all the time and MMGs are my main weapons
midnight nimbus
BFV guns have pretty wimpy DPS for how high the recoil is
compared to previous BFs
shrewd grove
You can figure out how to be aggressive with it you just kind of have to push the gun
amber notch
yeah the majority might but i certainly do not.
honestly
Just use the mg42 with 1200rpm
want aggressive shit
strong parrot
Yikes
shrewd grove
That's what I always used
midnight nimbus
1200 RPM MG42 dolphin dives
solid hinge
lol
little fjord
You can sit and wait for someone to walk through a doorway with any weapon
shrewd grove
1200 rpm MG42 or 900 rpm M1922 has worked for me
solid hinge
in devastaion laying prone in a pile of rubble
amber notch
runs around dolphin diving people
solid hinge
you are the rubble
midnight nimbus
AG m/42 to purge the map of all the MMGs
midnight nimbus
PIAT and nade launcher takes care of the rest
solid hinge
STG looks the best, wish it went back the way it was
midnight nimbus
it's the best loadout to cleanse the game of all the campers
shrewd grove
STG can be effective if you just learn to tap fire with it
little fjord
Well when you're playing breakthrough and your team zergs to the other objective and you're left to prevent the other team from capping the abandoned objective, taking a defensive position with concealment is legit
shrewd grove
It's the best loadout to cleanse the game of everything
That's why scrubs go for it
solid hinge
but enough about guns, when the f--k are we getting some legit maps and not terragen bs open field maps?
midnight nimbus
wanting to kill things in a FPS = scrub
little fjord
shrewd grove
Implying you can't be effective without being cheap 
half wolf
please press F to pay respect
shrewd grove
I don't think I've ever gone kill-less unless I join like right at the end of the match
half wolf
I kept getting 80, 90 damage on people
little fjord
@shrewd grove your new nickname is zero
half wolf
lol last match I died 11 times in a row within 10sec of spawning though
shrewd grove
I don't know what that means
little fjord
As in zero kills
shrewd grove
lol
amber notch
honestly
little fjord
amber notch
shrewd grove
I'm k with that
midnight nimbus
"x is cheap" = scrub mentality
shrewd grove
midnight nimbus
there's a guy at DICE who wrote an entire book on this
play to win mentality
if it's in the game and it's the most effective way to win, you're a scrub for avoiding it because it's "too good"
solid hinge
any info on maps, any videos out there? something along the lines of grand bazaar?
amber notch
who said that shit
midnight nimbus
Sirland
amber notch
time to tag him here
shrewd grove
Next month we're getting Greece, that's all we know so far @solid hinge
amber notch
little fjord
I agree... but some things are "exploits"
icy sluice
A lot of chinese like... players... the one who like cheating do say "If you're not using the cheats to your advantage, not our fault" or something like that.
shrewd grove
I just don't think you have to to win or get kills
Assault can do anything anyway
But I'd rather challenge myself
icy sluice
Honestly, I play as Assault the least
shrewd grove
Hence why I've taken up the MP34 after that guy argued so much at it just so could git gud with it
icy sluice
I have a more FUN time playing Support with MMGs, Medic reviving constantly and Recons PTFOing with flares
midnight nimbus
"They got stuck in a chasm at the mountain’s base, a land of scrubdom. Here they are imprisoned in their own mental constructs of made-up game rules. If they could only cross this chasm, they would discover either a very boring plateau (for a degenerate game) or the heavenly enchanted mountain peak (for a “deep” game). In the former case, crossing the chasm would teach them to find a different mountain with more fulfilling rewards. In the latter case, well, they’d just be happier. “Playing to win” is largely the process of shedding the mental constructs that trap players in the chasm who would be happier at the mountain peak."
little fjord
Point blank piat is rough... it should get a similar nerf as the grenade launcher coming
icy sluice
"Scrubdom" 
solid hinge
Greece = one open tera gen map or Maps with good flow, multiple paths, good focal points, vericality, diffrent terrains?
amber notch
@midnight nimbus what the actual fuck.
icy sluice
That wouldn't be realistic though, there's no arming a mortar like that when firing.
midnight nimbus
"A scrub is a player who is handicapped by self-imposed rules that the game knows nothing about."
reeeeee PIAT+nade launcher = you're a scrub
icy sluice
I just say you're an asshole using stuff like this to kill. I understand using it to like kill more than one person but using it as a primary... eh, you're a bit of a dick
I also say use what you got
midnight nimbus
if it's so powerful, use it yourself
icy sluice
I just don't want to, I don't have like a problem, but I am still saying it's a dick move.
shrewd grove
^
little fjord
🤷
icy sluice
It is getting a nerf from what I recall
I don't know how it's getting nerfed but, I just know it is somehow
little fjord
It only sucks when there's like a whole squad doing that shit
amber notch
whats getting nerfed?
little fjord
But I suppose someone could say the same thing for dark corner proners... and they don't bother me
opaque cipher
ZK gets a tiny nerf
opaque cipher
I think it’s to remind people bipod exists
midnight nimbus
0.68 -> 0.765
little fjord
Grenade launcher nerf?
shrewd grove
KE7 has already been beaten to death
Though I've never really used it much to begin with so I won't really notice a change
midnight nimbus
KE7 is the epitome of mediocrity
icy sluice
KE7 wasn't even that good tbh
midnight nimbus
it's pretty easy to use, but does nothing well
bring back Beta StG + launch KE7, and buff all the other automatics accordingly
opaque cipher
Buff Bren
wind quarry
Hey guys
opaque cipher
The truly underpowered weapon
shrewd grove
I love the Bren but I'd like it to get a little bit of a buff
wind quarry
Wait why is this my nickname
midnight nimbus
Bren is good
shrewd grove
Because as much as I do love all the things about it I do feel like a lot of people think it falls behind
It's a good gun
midnight nimbus
Bren is probably the best LMG for most maps
shrewd grove
It does a lot of things well
icy sluice
Bren is pretty good, it's easy to control
My only gripe with the Bren is the rate of fire
shrewd grove
FG42 and Bren have always been my favourite LMGs
midnight nimbus
it's the best >50m automatic in the game
shrewd grove
I would also kind of like the Madsen :x
opaque cipher
Madsen at least fires faster
icy sluice
Madsen felt good in BF1
midnight nimbus
prolly better than KE7
icy sluice
We already got stats on the madsen?
midnight nimbus
40 round stendo option is solid
icy sluice
WHOA
midnight nimbus
and its hrec is good
icy sluice
Okay, you answered my question without saying yes :v
shrewd grove
If Madsen is coming that would be amazing, I loved how controllable and all around good that was when you could get past the sightlines
half wolf
holy oof are all the frontlines servers tonight massive stomps?
icy sluice
Looking at that makes me shit
shrewd grove
It does kind of look like you'd put it in an outhouse
icy sluice
@half wolf I couldn't tell ya bub
icy sluice
There is an upgrade for fast bullets
shrewd grove
Bren has pretty decent bullet velocity when upgraded
icy sluice
Do people use recoil upgrade or the fast bullets upgrade on the MG42?
charred heron
@half wolf They mostly are
half wolf
Just hopped in a server
#1 guy on our team: 1750 points, 3-7
#1 guy on their team, 5900 points, 36-0
🤔
charred heron
@icy sluice I went with recoil
midnight nimbus
MG42 isn't good enough at the ranges where you want fast bullets
little fjord
I always go recoil
half wolf
Gonna go back to Ace combat for the night lol
shrewd grove
Fast bullets for me @icy sluice
icy sluice
Yeah, honestly I don't see anyone using MG42 at longer ranges
Especially with how fast it fires
half wolf
The M1922 is so much better than the MG42 at range
shrewd grove
The damage is shit at long range but I don't have trouble with the recoil so I just use high velocity
opaque cipher
You can use the 250 belt
But the M1922 already has 150
And every other spec better than MG42 250 rounds
half wolf
@opaque cipher Still, the recoil is iffy. For the 1922 it's still super controllable at 900
900rom
rpm
half wolf
It's the first MMG that I feel like I can actually reach out and touch snipers
because fuck snipers
and touch them roughly
not gently like the 34 does
midnight nimbus
wonder what M1919 hrec will be like
hopefully good enough where it can save you from being sniped
shrewd grove
I just saw a screenshot of the Madsen in-game 
midnight nimbus
but it won't be good enough to save you from AG m/42
only exciting support gun is Chauchat
disregard everything else
half wolf
I am so stoked for the chauchat
shrewd grove
I'm excited for all support guns because it's my favourite class
shrewd grove
I love big dumb machine guns
half wolf
Since odds are it will not have higher damage, and the 600rpm fire rate is way underkill for recoil at range
Considering that the MG34 and M1922 already exist
shrewd grove
I think it's going to have its perks
midnight nimbus
low hrec
shrewd grove
Every gun in the game has something it does well
coarse thunder
Every weapon from ToW has been reasonably good
half wolf
It'll be a hard sell for me. The 34 and 1922 are already great at long range.
I'm curious what class the M1 Garand will go in, though.
shrewd grove
Apparently the Madsen is coming with the Fall Of Europe ToW?
half wolf
@shrewd grove nothing like more BF1 reskinned guns instead of new content
midnight nimbus
M1919 has really good spec trees
half wolf
@midnight nimbus what tree
solid hinge
more reskinned drip feds
coarse thunder
?
solid hinge
m1 goes to assault for sure
solid hinge
maybe recon gets m1d
coarse thunder
Other than bug fixes I'd like to be able to customize my tanker/pilot and body customization for vehicles
half wolf
Why not Charlton Automatic Rifle? Why not the friggin BAR? Why not the Johnson LMG?
stoic breach
I forgot what the M1919 was
solid hinge
@coarse thunder nah
shrewd grove
I don't understand complaining about stuff from 1
solid hinge
dice wants you to play as woman
half wolf
The Chauchat is gonna be a good gun nevertheless, but I just wish that we got stuff that's new and more visually interesting.
shrewd grove
The Madsen was still used in WW2
stoic breach
Launch and early BFV is set around 1939-1940
midnight nimbus
you can stack improved bipod and hrec buff on M1919
midnight nimbus
Chauchat stats are filthy
rocky verge
I love grand operations great way to level up for tides of war
half wolf
@shrewd grove Idk I wish that if DICE is going to expend the minimal amount of effort that they seem to be doing so, I'd rather it be on more unique guns than just things we've seen before in the last game
stoic breach
Is it gonna be a tap machine
solid hinge
wonder if we gonna ever get junkers plane for airborne
shrewd grove
I think getting guns from 1 makes sense still
half wolf
However I will admit the Madsen is actually a legit addition for a WW2 game.
But stuff like the Seb 1916 and 1906 just don't make sense, and feel lazy.
solid hinge
we gonna be jumping out from c47 end of this year too
shrewd grove
When you're complaining about guns from 1 that were never actually used in WW2 then it makes sense
But with the Madsen nah
half wolf
That's why I digressed - the Madsen actually saw serious use. It saw use well beyond WW2 IIrC.
stoic breach
The Arisaka is going to come back eventually
rocky verge
I mean the French still used world war 1 guns since well there army was drunk all the time
solid hinge
Can we like
half wolf
But even the Chauchat wasn't a main issue gun anymore, the French had the FM29 LMG
solid hinge
Get new weapons
shrewd grove
The more French weapons the better imo
rocky verge
And used message by mail not telegrams or code
solid hinge
Cause I feel like a lot of the BF1 weapons are porting
coarse thunder
We get new weapons essentially every ToW week
solid hinge
Like just “new” weapons
stoic breach
They play differently
solid hinge
Ik
half wolf
The RSC didnt even see use in WW2
solid hinge
But it’s like ports
bronze grotto
is the g15 nerf out yet
stoic breach
This week it is
shrewd grove
I'm fine with porting because we get a new one pretty much every time in between
stoic breach
Even though its not that bad
compact oxide
The ribeyrolls and the 1906 were never used in WW1, let alone WW2
solid hinge
Was the selb 1916 even used
compact oxide
The 1916 was actually produced at least
bronze grotto
the 1916 should just stop working when you are prone
compact oxide
It was made as an airship gun
shrewd grove
Ribbeyrolles was only in because of the people that used it in BF1 would probably complain if they didn't get it
stoic breach
1916 was like a test for planes
half wolf
@shrewd grove I'm just worried that for the minimal amount of effort DICE is putting into the post-launch content, I'd rather it be spent on actual WW2 guns instead of stuff like the Selb 1916, 1906, ribeye, or the RSC
solid hinge
“Firestorm”
half wolf
To be honest I'd be fine if one gun per class was ported over from 1 as a reward for BF1 owners.
solid hinge
My argument on the Early Enlistee BfV preorder weapons
half wolf
Kinda like how you could get the Thompson and M1 Garand in Bad Company 2 if you had previous BF games
shrewd grove
I dont see minimal effort yet
solid hinge
The BarM1918A2 would be a cool addition
stoic breach
Yeah
solid hinge
The Brit’s did use it
shrewd grove
You can tell what theyre having to work with considering the fact they had to shit the game out as quickly as possible because EA has them on a leash
solid hinge
Yeah
stoic breach
Plus marketing fuck up
rocky verge
The Vickers was used in world war 2
solid hinge
Yeah the internet video wasn’t the best
shrewd grove
They're still trying to clean up the mess EA left behind while having to develop new content as well
rocky verge
Or if the Madsen is it
solid hinge
Robot*
stoic breach
VGO taken from planes and given to support
half wolf
@shrewd grove You're right, they're not skimping on the guns. But if you notice, their skinnable parts are less than the base guns (4 parts vs 6 parts), and there are less "flairs" like tape, cloth, or leaves on the DLC guns though.
I don't think EA is wholly to blame here.
stoic breach
That was interesting
solid hinge
VGO was always used
solid hinge
It’s the Vickers K variant
half wolf
It's super dope that they included it
solid hinge
Theirs like 4 different Vickers
stoic breach
Yeah I know
half wolf
I just wish we got the suppressed Sten
stoic breach
Bruh
solid hinge
I want my WELROD
stoic breach
Leather Teeth
coarse thunder
The White Tiger skins are pretty ok if you want cloth and other wrappings on the weapons
stoic breach
Yuh yeet
shrewd grove
@half wolf obviously, but they're a big reason so much of the game is unfinished
half wolf
Or customization options that got the Sten from Mk1 to Mk4
half wolf
@shrewd grove True. But also I think a lot of conscious, bad design choices were made that amplified the unfinished-ness, and are amplified by the unfinished aspects of the game.
solid hinge
Also @stoic breach Bruts a legend
stoic breach
Yeah hes a champ
rocky verge
@half wolf well I wish ea did not rush dice maybe that's why
rocky verge
If they let bf1 live another year
solid hinge
They were
coarse thunder
The only weapon complaint I have is too many side-loading SMGs
half wolf
Not just "EA rushed DICE", (they did), but DICE made bad design decisions
Yeah, all the SMGs look the same lmao
coarse thunder
Add the Type 100 and let that be the last one
shrewd grove
Dice hardly gets a normal development cycle
half wolf
@coarse thunder but wait we need the Lanchester SMG too /s
shrewd grove
And obviously there are some bad design decisions I'm not saying their arent
half wolf
@solid hinge They were banking on cosmetics and Boins, and the CC bug and how badly it sold at launch kinda killed that hope
shrewd grove
After BF4 EA was rushing everything out the door
solid hinge
Hardline
half wolf
@shrewd grove After BF1.
solid hinge
After Hardline
half wolf
BF1 was a good quality game
half wolf
Yes, questionable design choices in some aspects
solid hinge
Everyone went to it
shrewd grove
BF1 had a lot going for it from the start that's why
solid hinge
Infinite warfare hate helped ALOT
stoic breach
BF1 barely got updates until the end of 2017
half wolf
but the maps were beautiful, there was a lot of content, there was a smooth launch
shrewd grove
BF1 didn't get new content for 6 months
half wolf
@shrewd grove yerp
solid hinge
I’ll agree with the maps and minimap of BF1
stoic breach
The early BF1 maps were ok
half wolf
I liked most of the BF1 maps, except for the Russian DLC ones
solid hinge
Russia was crap
half wolf
those were sniper heaven lol
solid hinge
But it had nice maps over all
half wolf
Yeah.
solid hinge
Like just how they looked
shrewd grove
I liked every map in the game except Galicia and Tsaritsyn
stoic breach
Albion was amazing
solid hinge
Not gameplay but looks
half wolf
In general 1 is the quality of release/game that DICE should aim for.
stoic breach
Russian Paracel
coarse thunder
Unfortuantely conquest assault is a thing
solid hinge
Gimme back Hardcore and I’m happy lol
half wolf
Sure, it took a while for content to come out, but when it did, there was a lot of it, and it was good.
rocky verge
German vs russiana in world war 1:stalin ya they fine:operation barbarossa: shit
shrewd grove
I feel like they want to try making something like 1 but there's more than meets the eye thats impeding them
stoic breach
Apoc was a big waste of opportunity
half wolf
Apocalypse was when the momentum started to die off, but I still liked the Apocalypse maps.
icy sluice
My most played class is now officially recon
solid hinge
The maps were good
rocky verge
I think could of keep bf1 alive a little longer
There where still more battles they can do
coarse thunder
Passchendaele is easily top 5 maps in the game
rocky verge
But did not
solid hinge
But
shrewd grove
Passchendaele was my favourite map from design alone
solid hinge
They didn’t make any good execution with it
half wolf
^
stoic breach
Passchendeale was peak
half wolf
Still, better than V
solid hinge
Cause it wasn’t a operation to play in
half wolf
I don't like the "feel" of V's maps.
They feel too clean.
solid hinge
Which if it was
shrewd grove
I think with time BFV could be 10 times better
half wolf
You dont feel like you're in a larger battle.
@shrewd grove A lot like 4, which was terrible on launch.
coarse thunder
Because it's 1940 and the feeling of hopelessness hasn't set in
stoic breach
The BF1 desert maps sucked on CQ
solid hinge
I want more airplanes
shrewd grove
@half wolf that's what I'm thinking
solid hinge
In BFV
rocky verge
And looks like war
half wolf
Devastation still doesn't feel like a more deep map
shrewd grove
I think the wearing down of locations will come with time, were only at the very beginning of the war
half wolf
idk if bombers were flying overhead, or air raid seirens in the background, or clouds of smoke in the background
stoic breach
Devastation is amazing
solid hinge
Devastation needs air raids
half wolf
@shrewd grove I don't even mean destroyed locations. I loved the TSNP maps which had big fields of flowers that hadn't been destroyed yet.
solid hinge
Like as a squad call in
stoic breach
Yeah
solid hinge
I never notice
rocky verge
Yeah
half wolf
But it still felt atmospheric
stoic breach
Instead of "weather" it can just kill you
rocky verge
Happen a few times
shrewd grove
I already know what you mean, Dice is normally pretty good with map design, so I think they still have tricks up their sleeves @half wolf
solid hinge
Can select what you want at the comma rose
half wolf
I hope so. The Greece map I am tentatively excited for.
solid hinge
Can have it be the most expensive and then boom
rocky verge
If dice is doing a bf4 launch they better get going
stoic breach
The concept art looks great
rocky verge
Fast
half wolf
Agreed.
rocky verge
I fell like it's like this 2 or 3 bf games good
coarse thunder
Tbh the concept art for everything BF5 looked almost nothing like what we got in game
solid hinge
BF1 was the worst series in Battlefield history. Casualfield at its best, you die from explosions more then ever in gunfights. Any hardcore bf player will agree with me on this.
coarse thunder
EXCEPT the maps
half wolf
That they are. I am worried with how badly cosmetics have gone (no BOINS at all, no timeline on them), and the fact that they have no roadmap beyond next month.
rocky verge
The the cycle repeats
stoic breach
They said they'd update the roadmap close to the end of chapter 3
half wolf
@solid hinge
No offense buddy, but "Casualfield at its best" do you not remember the bad company series
half wolf
You're thinking back to the old PC-era games like 2142 and 2, and it's not possible to ever go back to that level of playerbase quality
charred heron
oins
shrewd grove
There's more of the roadmap it just hasn't been shown yet
half wolf
BC2 vietnam was dope
charred heron
The Battlefield community as of today mostly became what they told the CoD community is
half wolf
I loved that so much
shrewd grove
You can see it on all screenshots
solid hinge
BC2, BF3 and Bf4 and then after that its been downward thrust into an abyss for Battlfield series
charred heron
Younger and louder
half wolf
@solid hinge and yet here you are
shrewd grove
Never listen to people who talk about the series having a "fall from grace" or talk about "real fans"
charred heron
The roadmap is too short-term
half wolf
BF4 had great fucking maps
stoic breach
Metro 1943
solid hinge
Lol no metro
rocky verge
half wolf
In terms of variety
solid hinge
God no
yes because i like Battlefield. I din't play much bf1, but BF V is an improvement to BF1
rocky verge
Russians vs germans metro 1943
half wolf
Does anyone remember the Close Quarters expansion to 3?
solid hinge
I honestly think though
stoic breach
Siege of Shanghai more like spawnbeacons of Shanghai
half wolf
I actually enjoyed that...
solid hinge
We need to expand from the “not as well known battles”
shrewd grove
The CQB expansion for BF3 was good because assault wasn't OP as fuck
solid hinge
Like I like the idea
half wolf
Shanghai sucked. I'll give you that one lol
charred heron
And that we never got full dates on the stuff, just a "between that Span", shows that the content is mostly not finished
midnight nimbus
"BF1 was the worst series in Battlefield history. Casualfield at its best, you die from explosions more then ever in gunfights. Any hardcore bf player will agree with me on this."
lol
solid hinge
I do, but we need more content
half wolf
@shrewd grove agreed
midnight nimbus
so BF2 is the ultimate casualfield then
half wolf
Assault has just been getting consistently buffed since 3 lol
And it makes me so irrationally mad
stoic breach
Assault is wacky man
rocky verge
Limpet charge
half wolf
Yeah seriously who fuckin playtested that shit
rocky verge
Love that
solid hinge
Assault has been wacky for a long time
half wolf
Assault has gotten wackier
stoic breach
Limpet charge mains where you at
half wolf
And now it's reaching peak OP
solid hinge
Honestly assault wouldn’t be op if you adjust the other classes
rocky verge
Yes
stoic breach
Hahaha
solid hinge
Just give Medic carbines
coarse thunder
because everyone bitched about attrition
solid hinge
Lmao
shrewd grove
@charred heron I'm fine with a roadmap, I agree with you that they need to show us the whole thing instead of little snippets making people think there won't be much beyond that
solid hinge
You’ll be fine
stoic breach
Yeet
solid hinge
Limpet + Kolibri anyone?
stoic breach
On River Somme I threw myself into a trench with the M1912/p.16 and BS'd everyone on a flag
half wolf
@solid hinge If they gave Medics carbines, and nerfed the assault semiautos in terms of recoil (maybe removed their 3x scopes), gave support the ability to induce scope sway in 3x or 6x scopes w/ suppression, and increased the bodyshot damage of recons, I think things would be better
coarse thunder
If everyone spawned with no health pack, one less magazine, and one less gadget ammo then everyone would be essentially level
half wolf
Medic could get the M2 Carbine
rocky verge
@half wolf maybe give medic a shotgun
half wolf
Full-auto version of the M1
rocky verge
There are for close quarters after all
coarse thunder
Bullet flinch is the word you're looking for
half wolf
@stoic breach I mean only with 3x and 6x scopes. Specifically to let MMGs suppress snipers.
midnight nimbus
the problem isn't that SARs are too good
midnight nimbus
they're effectively how people used them in BF1
stoic breach
It got reduced a bit
shrewd grove
Suppression in BFV is non-exsitent and really needs a comeback so snipers can't plink you while being shot at
solid hinge
They are rainbows
half wolf
I don't mean "spread" and make shots not go where they should. I just mean make it harder to quickscope a MG gunner.
midnight nimbus
they actually have way more vertical recoil than they did in BF1
solid hinge
BF4 sniper flare worked
topaz dome
I honestly can't say I have ever seen the sniper glare in bfv
rocky verge
Bf3 bipod was good
midnight nimbus
the problem is that automatic weapons suck
stoic breach
Theres like 4 automatics for Assault
half wolf
@coarse thunder and yeah, bullet flinch too would be good.
solid hinge
@topaz dome you notice when you purposely look
rocky verge
Bipod down ky hallway now
stoic breach
Fedorov is gonna come back and people are gonna go ape
solid hinge
Hey, what if we got a combination. Lets just map it the BF4 formula with some allclass weapons?
half wolf
I'll be pissed if the fedorov comes back. It's more recycled content
midnight nimbus
ARs should've been medic
half wolf
I want to see the DP LMG and the RPD MMG
half wolf
So badly want to see the RPD
coarse thunder
Make a dedicated Engineer class again
midnight nimbus
god no lol
coarse thunder
They got the vehicle blow up shit
midnight nimbus
that's what assault exists for
coarse thunder
Assault still has explosives but the likes of dynamite/frag rifleetc.
solid hinge
Idk why they shifted everything
rocky verge
Camp with M249
solid hinge
Medic was life and good defense
midnight nimbus
BF3 did it right
rocky verge
My hallway now
coarse thunder
Assault is the most well-rounded class in the game
stoic breach
I wonder if BFV supports know they have repair tools
coarse thunder
It can compete at all ranges
midnight nimbus
grenade launcher + meds + ARs
coarse thunder
It can blow up shit
half wolf
Ooooh the SKS too
solid hinge
I actually go out and fix vehicles as support lol
rocky verge
Cold war bf next
solid hinge
Its how you win frontlines
rocky verge
coarse thunder
It's default perks are faster health regen and more ammo from dead enemies
rocky verge
I wonder if dice would do a cold war battlefield
half wolf
@solid hinge so many people dont know supports can fix vehicles
rocky verge
Maybe not
midnight nimbus
the most important jobs in BF have always been the most boring
half wolf
@rocky verge That would be fun. An althist Cold War gone hot
midnight nimbus
rep monkey, redeploying to cover backcaps
rocky verge
@half wolf what
half wolf
alternate history
rocky verge
Ah
solid hinge
@half wolf ik. I dedicate it if I’m running engineer and just building fortifications and using AA guns
You know what grinds my gears
Tanks
I want my tiger to be scary
I didn’t become a tiger main for nothing
rocky verge
@solid hinge ju88 players
stoic breach
Could you imagine if medics could equip the syringe instead of a pistol
rocky verge
Still alive and bombing like crazy
solid hinge
Stuka
rocky verge
Stuka fun
solid hinge
I 1?
rocky verge
I love the noise it makes
solid hinge
It’s great
coarse thunder
They're buffing tank splash damage and heavy tank armor in the upcoming update iirc
rocky verge
When its diving
solid hinge
I’ve dominated Hamada on Grand Op as Stuka B-1
stoic breach
The syringe would have a lower TTK than the Webley
solid hinge
Yep
rocky verge
Yes
solid hinge
If it’s B-2
stoic breach
Bomberman bill
half wolf
@solid hinge you want your tiger to be scary until you get plinked by some jumped-up scottsman in a Sherman with a massive 17-pounder AT gun bolted to it
solid hinge
It’s the cannons
rocky verge
Yes
half wolf
#firefly4life
stoic breach
Can russian tanks just fall apart when they add them to BFV
rocky verge
Dice add a firefly British tank
solid hinge
I’m trying to boost the B-2, it somehow reset and I lost my CC
rocky verge
We need that
half wolf
Because the Tiger 1 was actually pretty obsolete by '43/'44
rocky verge
British Sherman
coarse thunder
No because Russian tanks were actually good lol
half wolf
The Firefly and 76mm Shermans could easily doink its armor out to 1km+
stoic breach
First specialisation is keeping the bolts in for the tank tracks
solid hinge
I’ll be realistic
coarse thunder
If any tanks were to fall apart it would be the Germans'
rocky verge
Wait dice need more tanks
solid hinge
A lot of them are worthless
rocky verge
The marder
stoic breach
French light tanks
half wolf
@coarse thunder Panther specialization: Makes sure it doesnt catch fire when driving uphill
rocky verge
A German artillery tank
coarse thunder
^
stoic breach
Panzerstorm with russian and french tanks 🤔🤔
half wolf
Panther specialization: Make sure the armor doesn't shatter at the seams under a hit from a Sherman's 75mm gun/
half wolf
Panther specialization: Give the gunner a sight that meant he could actually target other tanks.
stoic breach
They just went to the beach
half wolf
Panther specialization: Give the tank a fuckin reverse gear
solid hinge
Italian M13/40?
coarse thunder
Tiger II specialization: Don't destroy bridges as you cross them
half wolf
Panther specialization: Make the side armor thicker because oh shit we forgot tanks get shot at from the side too
half wolf
Tiger II specialization: Enough fuel to run for the entire match
coarse thunder
We know
half wolf
Tiger II specialization: Not getting gangbanged by a horde of Typhoon fighter-bombers within seconds
coarse thunder
It's when they add the Tiger II
solid hinge
Oh
rocky verge
Nah panther
half wolf
@solid hinge I know.
coarse thunder
Uh
half wolf
@solid hinge The Tiger II is very very different.
rocky verge
@solid hinge they add panther?
solid hinge
I’m just shitting you all
rocky verge
It was in a trailer
half wolf
But knowing DICE, they'll reskin the Panther and scale it up by 25% ffs
half wolf
We're getting the STUG 4 because DICE is too lazy to actually make new assets and make the STUG 3
rocky verge
@half wolfand the archer
solid hinge
To go through the different variations
half wolf
And we get the friggin Churchill GC instead of an actual British tank destroyer
like the Archer
rocky verge
British tank destroyer
half wolf
Which is "soon"
coarse thunder
The Tiger I seems too small in the game. In reality, a 6'3" person barely reaches the turret ring
rocky verge
Where the skis for the snow map at dice
solid hinge
I’m surprised we don’t have Polish tanks
rocky verge
I wanna ski around and throws knifes on multiplayer
solid hinge
Ngl
coarse thunder
There's a "Polish Free Forces" paintjob for the Staghound :/
rocky verge
Yeah my bad
solid hinge
Last I saw
coarse thunder
If anything it should be a squad call in
solid hinge
It was all the content they are holding back
solid hinge
We’re suppose to get the Panzerschreck and Bazooka soon
solid hinge
Maybe
rocky verge
We need that
solid hinge
I can look again
solid hinge
lol
rocky verge
It good tank
half wolf
@solid hinge "soon"
rocky verge
Nice
coarse thunder
I wonder what model the Panther will be
rocky verge
@coarse thunder it's in a trailer
solid hinge
Like the Wex and M2 were in
rocky verge
The one where it showed all the vehicles for a quick second @coarse thunder
solid hinge
A lot of cosmetics
rocky verge
For firestorm
half wolf
@coarse thunder Likely wont matter much, the differences were fairly minor visually except for the schmallturm
coarse thunder
Rip tankgewehr
solid hinge
Cei Rigottiw
rocky verge
Wait what's that outfit for germans irl called
solid hinge
The garand is in the files
coarse thunder
Useless against most tanks in WWII
rocky verge
The ones that guard tanks
coarse thunder
There's no solid outfit for them
solid hinge
Sjorgen
solid hinge
Mars Auto Pistol
Which I’m assuming is the Mars from BF1
Browning Hi-power
Which I actually can live with
coarse thunder
Just because it's found in the files doesn't mean it's a completed asset
rocky verge
The dang sturmgewher is the gewer 1-5 only difference no grip and it's in semi only
coarse thunder
Some guy actually debunked a ton of the "found in files" stuff
rocky verge
Really dice
solid hinge
Fliegerfaust
I mean they are porting BF1 weapons
Who’s to say they can’t do the same with the Mars
coarse thunder
I think that was one of the things that was barely an asset
solid hinge
We got the Ribe
echo glen
I want more revolvers...
solid hinge
Like come on
coarse thunder
They won't do SS but the most we can hope for is the camo
solid hinge
@echo glen I Hope we get American revolvers or German ones.
The SS would never be added
We censored swastikas
Maybe a jet black but I doubt it
echo glen
I want my Gasser back
rocky verge
But Germany passed a law saying it's ok for historical reason only
I remember seeing that in a article
coarse thunder
Yeah but most of the paintjobs, outfit colors, and German webbing are already proven to be SS pattern
rocky verge
The germans have some nice camo designs
shrewd grove
We're getting the C96 but as the Spanish copy of it called the Astra 900
solid hinge
Are you serious
rocky verge
For the rare outfits
shrewd grove
And we're getting the C96 carbine
rocky verge
Default ones
shrewd grove
Because the Astra 900 is cool
solid hinge
I mean i own a WW2 Spanish paratrooper rifle
But it isn’t a copy of the k98
As some assume
But like, if we do the astra, why have the c96
Carbine
Just do the M1712 variant
Big stock and big mag
Rapid fire
shrewd grove
I don't know if it's the c96 carbine for sure
rocky verge
Guys outfit combo early war German: Headgear cap,Torso aristocrat,legs aristocrat
coarse thunder
During the Alpha the Assault character model used a Waffen SS snow mask
shrewd grove
I just know we're getting a stock one too
echo glen
more tanks pls
shrewd grove
@coarse thunder people thought it was too silly because they didn't know it actually existed
rocky verge
Also who wants a link to a website with good bf5 outfits that make you solder look more normal
coarse thunder
I blame the community for the current state of customization
solid hinge
So a suppressed revolver is possible
rocky verge
^^
solid hinge
Walther PP was also used to
coarse thunder
I check in there occasionally
echo glen
it has decently normal looking outfit combos
solid hinge
So that’ll be cool lmao
coarse thunder
That subreddit is very "authentic" focus
echo glen
what happened to the plane with the cannon
coarse thunder
Most of their complaints revolve around the lack of real British items
solid hinge
I just want gasmasks to not be prevalent
shrewd grove
rocky verge
Well wait ain't there another German and British outfit coming out
solid hinge
And the plane is suppose to launch at some point with everyone
coarse thunder
The odd fascination with gasmasks and goggles needs to cease
solid hinge
Like the new tanks
rocky verge
The one British guy smoking near a tree in the trailer
And one walking in devistaion
All fancy
echo glen
can't wait for the elite outfits, gonna grind cc
shrewd grove
I'm fine with the gas masks but the goggles are kinda weird
echo glen
the devastation one is the tier 40 tow
rocky verge
@echo glen no
coarse thunder
Gas masks are worse offenders than goggles imo
echo glen
Baron von something
shrewd grove
Baron Von Zorn
coarse thunder
They were never worn in combat other than a select few times on D-Day by the Allies and in China essentially
echo glen
gonna make a ww1 esque outfit with the mask, coat, etc with the selbslater 1916, p08 and a shovel
rocky verge
Grand operation for d day where we sneak in 1 day early
coarse thunder
Baron von Zorn's gas mask goggles are cracked
rocky verge
As them paratroopers
lofty agate
I just fired up for the first battlefield 5 after 2 weeks and the first game I loaded up I couldn’t even spawn. The UI for loadout selection was blank and I couldn’t spawn. I immediately turned it off. Someone wake me up when the beta is over.
rocky verge
For merica
coarse thunder
I hope they give the Arras helmets to previous BF1 players
echo glen
im sad bcuz I needed 1 more v1 kill to get the ratburner but it was glitched and I never got the chance to get
it
solid hinge
Contact support @echo glen
amber notch
@echo glen Contact support.
solid hinge
They’ll give it to yah
shrewd grove
Or those helmets with the coloured threads hanging down in front
rocky verge
Cant wait for the Elite outfits
shrewd grove
You can see them in Tirailleur
echo glen
thanks @solid hinge and @amber notch
coarse thunder
Stag's Blood
shrewd grove
lol I spent mine all on stuff that didn't look like it came out of the circus
Stags blood yeah
That's a camo mask
coarse thunder
I initially planned on using that for my Axis Recon until I learned that it wasn't in the game
For now I'll settle with the Field Cap
shrewd grove
For my support I have the field cap and schlauchschal
rocky verge
And for British it's a green beret paratrooper
I think I'm judging of the screenshots I have of it
lofty agate
Are they any new maps scheduled to release soon?
rocky verge
Grand operations
coarse thunder
Axis headgear (from Assault to Recon): Hades, Fallschirmjaeger, Ratburner, Cap
coarse thunder
Allies headgear (same order): Hazardous Conditions, Final Countdown, Scottish Play, Pit Crew
rocky verge
Try this outfit (Medic only or recon) Cap,Aristocrat aristocrat
Looks really good
Aristocrat is the green camo
Not the default grey one
shrewd grove
For my medic I have architect instead of aristocrat
And the pants are the ones with the stickmag since he uses an mp40
lofty agate
Are there any new maps scheduled to release soon?
rocky verge
@lofty agate. Only a grand operations
lofty agate
Thank you
rocky verge
Panzerstorm and arras
shrewd grove
@lofty agatenext month is Greece
coarse thunder
Only cosmetics I bought were the cap and Pit Crew
I like the Demolisher but I think it would look much better on a tanker
sonic rampart
Greece will be Hamadeece: Hamada + Temples and water, maybe even some water vehicles
coarse thunder
Same goes for the Canis Horriblis cap
I don't like Recon's cosmetics in general
Trench coats aren't really my thing
sonic rampart
Peter Müller
rocky verge
Yes
coarse thunder
I think you can dress up like Schroder with the Aristocrat uniform+Field Cap
sonic rampart
But why would you want to dress up as Schröder
coarse thunder
There was the other kid too, Hartmann
They both had essentially the same outfit
Good source for cosmetic stuffs/mix and match
The upcoming German elite cosmetic seems to be literally based off Otto Skorzeny lol
So, no SS, but there is SS everywhere...?
echo glen
Imma grind for the purple melees
echo glen
yes
rocky verge
Ello old friend
cerulean finch
tomorrw drops the next patch?
rocky verge
Whack