> bf5 ttk it's the same ttk as bf3 literally
lol
#battlefield-legacy-titles
midnight nimbus
snow ermine
bf1 was a casual paradise with random bullet spread and sweetspot for snipers
midnight nimbus
bruh you know BFV has spread too
civic sun
Random bullet spread sucks
civic sun
Is bf4 still alive?
midnight nimbus
just really easy to mitigate and requires zero brainpower
muted socket
id imagine it if
snow ermine
@midnight nimbus but it wasn't RANDOM in bf4
midnight nimbus
yes it was
muted socket
bf3 is so i dont see why not
civic sun
it depends on what weapons
midnight nimbus
spread works in the same exact way in all BF games at its core
works in the same way it does in every shooter
civic sun
lmgs have unpredictable bulletspread without the bipod deployed
snow ermine
@midnight nimbus armchair "specialist" statement that you just pulled out of your ass about spread
midnight nimbus
just dump
civic sun
that 4 bullets out of the 30 hit your target
orchid stump
The only thing you can predict is the MG42. Kills every time you shoot ;)
civic sun
I need hitlers buzzsaw
warped thicket
Unless you're hipfiring from 2 feet away
warped thicket
Then you very neatly outline the guy who kills you with a sten and humps your corpse
midnight nimbus
BF community just wants CoD gunplay
which is fine
nothing inherently wrong with that
people wanna magdump and blast
which is what we got in BFV
civic sun
I dont want COD gunplay
snow ermine
my god what are you? 12?
civic sun
where the fuck did you get that from?
Cod is gay now
bo4 is bad and the last good true black ops game was numero 2
midnight nimbus
the highlights of BF gunplay to the community are BF3/4 AR blasting
civic sun
All they have to do
midnight nimbus
so you get that, to a greater logical extreme
rotund sentinel
And we're losing object Anton!
warped thicket
I'm tired of the Assault sniper becoming the norm for 60% of the team
civic sun
The german side should have made objective A adolf
snow ermine
edgy
midnight nimbus
semi blasting is so fun
civic sun
not edgy
midnight nimbus
so much easier than BF1
tidal hedge
Peel yourself
muted socket
i just wish i was good at this game
snow ermine
don't cut yourself there @civic sun
midnight nimbus
because i like killing things fast
civic sun
respect
muted socket
whats the best medic gun
snow ermine
siringe
midnight nimbus
nah
civic sun
yah
tidal hedge
Curse all those who use anything but iron sights
midnight nimbus
just turn off FoV scale then
if you don't have 3x
3x isn't even that good, cucks your ADS speed
semis are good bc they were turned into CoD guns
civic sun
yeah but it makes it versatile
muted socket
mp40 or sten
midnight nimbus
the only reason why 3x is so good is because the reflex/nydar have dirty ass lenses
civic sun
so gtfo
midnight nimbus
CoD has projectile speed
civic sun
barley
midnight nimbus
BF is largely designed the same way
civic sun
No it isnt
midnight nimbus
don't have to lead within your intended range
civic sun
You cant see the bullets in COD
tidal hedge
They call it Cod guns because they have no recoil and can be easily spammed
midnight nimbus
leading isn't even ultimate gun skill anyways
tidal hedge
Nothing to do w/ bullet speed
midnight nimbus
nothing casual about hitscan
midnight nimbus
velocity exists in BF as a softer limit to range ability
alongside spread and hrec
also why SMGs suck so bad
midnight nimbus
leading is like the shallowest aspect of skill
civic sun
leading is difficult AF
midnight nimbus
just point your mouse in front of them
civic sun
I use console
midnight nimbus
or play up closer, the way your gun is designed
civic sun
mostly
tidal hedge
It’s not difficult for me and I use console
midnight nimbus
don't have to lead within your intended engagement range
tidal hedge
You get used to it
midnight nimbus
headshots in BFV are way too easy
civic sun
they are
midnight nimbus
miss BF1 hitboxes
you can literally go full xfactor meme in BFV, which is just casual
muted socket
look let me have this moment
tidal hedge
35 kill streak club😤
marble phoenix
Highest I’ve gotten was 12
pale rain
15 for me
pale rain
14*
marble phoenix
Got my Final Countdown Drip
marble phoenix
Well the headgear at least
marble phoenix
I’m 34 for Tides Rank
civic sun
How?
I need screenshots
im only 27
13 more until I get the badass uniforms
and I finally have an actual nazi
why do I look forward to this?
tidal hedge
The outfits arent even realistic
civic sun
yeah
tidal hedge
Theyre like general or marshal uniforms
solid hinge
velocity exists in BF as a softer limit to range ability
every semi has higher velocity than the bolt actions
solid hinge
marble phoenix
You crazy
tidal hedge
It’d he like if Hitler himself marched into battle
marble phoenix
The final countdown gear yoga flame
tidal hedge
With the red and black leather
snow ermine
the uniforms are not realistic. who would have thought 
civic sun
I got final countdown the day it came out
midnight nimbus
every semi has higher velocity than the bolt actions
exactly why bolt actions suck
civic sun
it was ez
tidal hedge
Wish they’d add a normal, basic uniform
civic sun
Yeah
solid hinge
even the high velocity bolt actions are only 700
tidal hedge
Everything’s mad max looking😤😤
civic sun
I wish they add hardcore mode
bf1 uniforms looked dope and semi realistic
well
Not realistic per say
but they look cool as hell
solid hinge
at least they're good for killing proners
tidal hedge
The germans had a lot of marching gear
marble phoenix
Mad Max Fury Road top 5 action movie all time
fair hedge
🤢🤮
civic sun
are bf1 uniforms realistic?
kindred orchid
Here we go, Arya complaining about Recons again!
civic sun
Im pretty sure the austro hungarians didnt look like that
those uniforms are way too nice
I would wear that shit
snow ermine
when will people realize that bf games are just stylized war games they are not actual war sims
you want authentic play arma
civic sun
realistic
tidal hedge
Somewhat passable @civic sun
German assault class had Shotgun shells for some reason, and the Medic had a marching pack, which wasnt really used in combat
Someone made a realistic uniform mod for BF1, theres a video
On YT
wind pendant
imagine being pro l33t sniper in ww2 and have bullet velocity of 700 puk🤢 @solid hinge
snow ermine
at least they had the brains to not include asians and blacks to axis side
civic sun
i still dont know how stodeh does so fucking good with snipers
snow ermine
muscle memory
snow ermine
he mains aggressive recon so it's no surprise
civic sun
probably has the usas with frags
that gun gave me ptsd
lol
You guys like the removal of battlepacks?
midnight nimbus
virgin 500 m/s velocity snipers, chad 910 m/s MAS-44
stone plaza
yeah omg MAS-44 is hitscan af
it's great but BAs need to feel this good too
also they need to not be participation trophy guns
north holly
NA, LFG to start this weeks T.O.W.
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snow ermine
@stone plaza you can buy them anyway after each chapter end
so you can't really miss them unless you're poor 
humble robin
Hey
icy sluice
Oof, look at him trying to ping everyone
steep radish
What have I walked into
solid hinge
BUT BATTTLEFIELD 3
icy sluice
As if a server with like 20k people will give people the ability to ping everyone
solid hinge
GREAT GAME
steep radish
Ooga Booga
snow ermine
I think this server needs to have age restriction
icy sluice
lol
steep radish
Nah
icy sluice
Don't spam in all caps btw bud
snow ermine
or better and iq test
steep radish
Other wise how can I get entertainment like this?
icy sluice
In my opinion I think the Final Countdown headgear looks great with the Union Jacked
solid hinge
Aren’t we all glad Squad CQ is gone
icy sluice
Isn't it still there?
snow ermine
all this effort for a simple red beret
solid hinge
ooga booga
icy sluice
It was easy, really
snow ermine
I know I did it myself I'm saying the reward could have been better
icy sluice
I've had probably some of the best games in a month
solid hinge
Also gotta love it when opening your assignments freezes your game
icy sluice
Mostly because I've sprinted in Kamikaze with smoke, getting like 7 kills each life
Suomi is like the best gun to just run in with smoke
snow ermine
ZK > Suomi
icy sluice
no
Doesn't kill nowhere near as fast
I constantly give people one-frame deaths, not because connection, but because of the bullet-hose this gun is
coarse thunder
Meanwhile Valentine AA does 5-8 damage per shot to a Tiger
midnight nimbus
depends on which Suomi upgrade you use
snow ermine
Lol zk is 720 rpm suomi is only 50rpm faster plus zk is more precise. Right nowhere near as fast.
midnight nimbus
rapid fire ZK also gets good upgrades
you can stack rapid fire + barrel bedding on ZK
icy sluice
Barrel Bedding one of the accuracy ones?
midnight nimbus
less base spread
coarse thunder
More accuracy when stationary iirc
midnight nimbus
which is really good on autos, pretty useless on semis
less base spread affects more than just stationary fire
coarse thunder
I think the upgrade is literally just more accuracy when stationary
midnight nimbus
more "stationary accuracy" also affects your moving accuracy
bc of funky moving spread formula
in BF, base spread buffs affects your lower bound for moving spread
solid hinge
Why is the fucking game spawning me outside the map
indigo sedge
icy sluice
Ah, so this is what the fabled Quality of Life Tracker really is, that's nice.
strong parrot
honestly why does a pos like this have to be on my team ...its not even the stats that piss me off its the fact that hes flying a fucking ju88 for most of the fucking breaththrough match on twisted steel and going "lol im playing r6 on my xbox" and then he doesnt spawn for ever...then hes trying to block my fire because i called him out for being an asshole... and he finishes the round 1-8.........yay
strong parrot
my bad...intentional throwing of rounds is a good thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
soft storm
Like I said, find his address and beat him up
strong parrot
👌 nice contribution bro
little fjord
Don't add things to the quality of life tracker like "I gained weight and my shirts don't fit well anymore" or "my wife keeps nagging me"
violet finch
Wut
icy sluice
They're devs, not miracle workers 
solid hinge
icy sluice
What is it?
amber notch
Did you not watch the beginning of that video
Jesus Christ.
And I thought it was just me
icy sluice
I thought you were talking about the .gif file for a second
strong parrot
good, as someone who was just being abused by a bomber..this pleases me
icy sluice
Also, haha, yes something to destroy those stupid spitfires
Honestly, I don't even shoot at blenheims at all, I rarely, rarely die by them
Every time I see them, they don't get many kills.
soft storm
Blenheim is more focused on single targets and being a support plane
Apparently the nose mounted swivel guns are very good
snow ermine
@orchid stump maybe you're just playing on a shit team?
orchid stump
well no, sometimes my team steamrolls the other and they can't capture the first two points
I either totally lose or totally win
has matchmaking always been this bad for this long, in the entire battlefield series? I've had more fun matches back in bad company 2. Too bad they didn't plan much and you capped out too quickly in that game, and it wasn't 64p
amber notch
snow ermine
depends on the game I've had some awesome matches today on breakthrough
soft storm
Matchmaking has never been a strong suit for battlefield
icy sluice
I mean, matchmaking usually sucks for all games
Back when I used to play Call of Duty, most games were like 20+ point differences
Star Wars Battlefront 2 servers (2005) while an old game usually didn't have close matches
Not saying Battlefield V's matchmaking is good but, it's a real difficult thing to get down.
orchid stump
I bet it is, but these matches pretty much kill the mood for me when playing this game
Especially when I go on a large losing streak
icy sluice
Yeah same with other games, it's pretty hard to get fair matches in any game
In all my years of being a multi-shooting game fan... it's usually a rare sight to get it down to very close matches... hell even in CoD I only had like one match that was down to the wire.
orchid stump
I've had a couple in bf5 where the ticket count either lost / won by single digits. Super intense
My last breakthrough was really boring. I just went afk on the last half of the match because my team couldn't take a single point
snow ermine
If you have two good squads in a clan you gonna dominate any gamemode pretty much
icy sluice
Every game is super intense when it's like that but something about Battlefield feels more "Whoa"
orchid stump
I need more of them "only in battlefield" moments
I don't get that in bf5 as often compared to the previous games
snow ermine
watch best plays montage there aresome crazy moments there
wind pendant
tell me, in urban map with tanks breakthrough
why do attackers flank and avoid the point?
the one with two floors A
solid hinge
I may have roadkilled someone on team dice last night .. appologies
dense bone
icy sluice
I think the headgear is worth it :v
solid hinge
how many hours do you guys have on BF5
25 kills at one flag .. bloody hell mate
on the first day nogal
thorn wolf
anybody else getting errors trying to queue?
vernal plover
so DX12 on or off, whats the deal?
thorn wolf
Error code -32603 trying to queue 🤔
vernal plover
i have 7700k + 1070
snow ermine
then turn it on
vernal plover
k it is
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sinful zenith
is the new weekly tow stuff out?
vernal plover
just unlocked it
but isnt it part of the set we unlock at level 38?
kinda a waste
sinful zenith
its an alternate version of what we get at 38
marble phoenix
It’s the matching headgear to the level 38 unlock
snow ermine
Why do you need two balaclavas?
snow ermine
Dice seems to like ski masks and googles. Ah and also gasmasks.
snow ermine
I wonder if we can get the skins that were in the first tow chapter
obsidian hinge
Easiest way to spot 25 enemies in one life?
amber notch
grand ops
obsidian hinge
ok
little fjord
Spotting scope
amber notch
hopefully get airborne
if you get that gamemode bring out the scope and just watch the paratroopers jumping out
amber notch
Same with rotterdam at the start
during breakthrough if you bring out the scope and look down at the enemy spawn, you will spot about 80%
of the enemy team that is
snow ermine
solid hinge
Breakthrough is the worst. It's just conquest where one side has to get spawn camped
There's WAY too much room to flank. Defending is ultra hard
Especially with recons, so posting up with LMGs does nothing
sudden siren
The mas is hilariously broken
rocky verge
when the new elite outfit gonna come out?
or the gambler outfit whatever diced called it
sudden siren
I think it's unlocked at level 32 on the battle pass
obsidian hinge
I got 20/25 spots in one life but my team is retarded and didn't revive me
snow ermine
you get two elite outfits in this tow already, one epic headgear and two rare outfits
I think it's more than enough
obsidian hinge
Does the end of day one thing reset my in a life thing?
severe sable
at least you know where the enemy is coming from
unlike in conquest where my head is constantly on a swivel
snow ermine
conquest is the most chaotic and uncontrollable game mode in bf5
I don't know why people love it so much
obsidian hinge
Finally
rocky verge
the new outfit with a unique best squad animation i think someone showed a image of it
rocky verge
ugh i now i saw a image of it but i think it's gone now
british commando looking outfit
we saw in the trailer
obsidian hinge
Btw when are Dice going to change the loadout menus?
snow ermine
@rocky verge you mean the one with a skull on the jacket?
rocky verge
no
the british commando with the green beret?
it had a name/ image someone posted but i can't find it
solid hinge
from the reveal trailer of the official launch ?
rocky verge
for the tides of war
near the end where it shows 2 outfits that ain't in yet
but i saw a name of one of them
solid hinge
ah
little fjord
I want my characters smoking a cigarette at the end of the match for best squad
Smoking is cool
solid hinge
@rocky verge at that part where they show Firestorm ?
rocky verge
where you see the german just walking in devistation and that guy just smoking next to a tree
near the end
but yeah i think that were they show firestorm
solid hinge
Cuz i can see a new skin at the firestorm part
snow ermine
I think people got mad much more about the prosthetic arm
snow ermine
I personally got a little mad about a woman with a prosthetic hand beating a nazi soldier with a cricket bat to death.
solid hinge
HELLO OLD FRIEND
little fjord
Me neither
amber notch
apart from make your character look different
snow ermine
True. But they pushed really hard that it's a WW2 game.
It's more like fortnite with ww2 guns
little fjord
But the whole tone of the trailer turned me off... didn't look like it took war very seriously... looked like cod to me....
amber notch
solid hinge
yeah, you have more of a chance of being the first gamer in space tbh
little fjord
Then I saw shroud playing bfv in December and I was like "shit, that looks legit, fun, and good" so I bought it
azure lark
Prosthetic arm would make a good melee weapon
solid hinge
mhm
amber notch
Shroud enjoyed bfv, I like his comment with how it was advertised though "it was not advertised well and people from the looks of it just jumped onto the bandwagon"
Its not a bad game
there are loads of things they can change, and given time dice will change these things
solid hinge
thats accurate, I pushed my BF4 loving clan mates to try it, most said they would never play it and most of them are now playing
obsidian hinge
Should I go for kar98k or gewehr m95?
snow ermine
They only backtracked on the cosmetics because they were afraid of the backlash otherwise we would have nazi black ss wheelchair paratroopers now in game
azure lark
Doesn’t it generally take a year or two for a BF game to get to a point where it feels good and release ready but by that time, they’re working on the next one.
little fjord
Yeah I think if a person really liked bf4 they would appreciate what's different and the elements that are preserved
solid hinge
especially the chopper pilots and gunners from bf 4 .. they were like .. no helos it sux .. but once you see the planes in action in bf V, they were like oh yeah
amber notch
I do not play recon so i dont know what bolt action would be good for what
little fjord
Bfv is very good right now... but yeah, in 2 years it'll be even more solid
amber notch
Kar is alright i dont mind it, but SLRs are the way to go
Two shot at any range with both the ZH and Selbs
snow ermine
The only bad thing about the game now is the lack of RSP. If they don't introduce it soon the game is doa
kindred orchid
It already arrived, how can it be dead on arrival?
azure lark
I gave the ZH a try and it seems like it has more vertical recoil than the selb
solid hinge
again, thats a technical issue, not dice being aholes .. there is a lot more to RSP than a username and password
kindred orchid
Benefits of the ZH-29 is quicker reloads and ability to have 6 rounds.
azure lark
The ZH does have a nice full cross 3x scope though
snow ermine
it's a play of words. The sales are shit anyway so the game is dead as is and without community owned servers it's gonna last only as long as ea decides to keep it alive
solid hinge
again, its a lot more complex than just a credit card purchase and some mysterious magical fix all for RSP . there are companies other than EA and dice involved
its a corporate issue
kindred orchid
I feel like with community owned servers it'll only fragment the community due to probably having it not give you progression since they aren't official.
kindred orchid
Either that or it'll be very limited on what you can modify on the server.
solid hinge
no actually im not, last weekend I set up a new 32 player BF4 server in texas, it involved 4 different companies and loads of FTPing databases and linking them and software before we could go live
none of those companies was EA or dice
snow ermine
This has nothing to do whether EA wants to spend money on it or not. At least you could do it. With bf5 you currently can't
kindred orchid
Not to mention this is probably setup as cloud based servers, and has some algorithm that automatically adds/removes servers depending on users.
solid hinge
yes it does, neither EA or Dice is in the business of hosting game servers
snow ermine
That's what I'm saying they don't want to invest in this when they can just make money on boins.
solid hinge
they never have
kindred orchid
I also don't imagine that they have any plans for rsp since the beginning so it was never designed to allow it.
kindred orchid
I don't see a problem with not having rsp at this point either.
snow ermine
@solid hinge Wrong. With bf1 they did rsp in house.
maiden lantern
really?
kindred orchid
People were complaining that we were fragmenting the community with new-ttk and old-ttk.
azure lark
Wellp, the only sliver of hope you have to hold onto is that they haven’t completely ruled out RSP. But it’s not coming anytime soon.
solid hinge
look, its simple, all the background software that hosted private servers for BFBC2, BF3, BF4, they are all prety much the same software .. BF V would need new hosting software from multiple companies, and if it isn't worth the money for those hosting companies, they wont release it .. has little to do with EA or Dice, .. all that EA or dice does is release the basic server package to companies like gameservers.com 13d or nfo servers
maiden lantern
im sure at least 1 company would
and if not some big bfv fan would start their own small one
solid hinge
anyway its not off the table, I think it will come when things settle down
maiden lantern
so its 
then
kindred orchid
I don't really see a legitimate reason to have it now.
solid hinge
yep
maiden lantern
@kindred orchid i dont see a legit reason for it not to happen
snow ermine
it will only come if there is potential to make money on microtransactions for EA otherwise no.
I like how EA and Dice apologists are ready to justify anything that the company does when the reason is always the same - money
solid hinge
I aint no appologist, I have things I dont like too
my number 1 beef being killing off BF2 and BF2142
still makes me salty
kindred orchid
2142 best BF.
dusty sluice
2AM, do I go to sleep or grind out more mastery assignments?
Gold MAS isn’t just gonna waltz into my armory
lunar lion
dusty sluice
but my inner completionist needs the challenge done
snow ermine
remeber kids, ocd is a mental disorder.
dusty sluice
I would’ve gone to sleep already otherwise, another hour can’t hurt too much
sun rising intensifies
azure lark
Damn, so supports can’t use their repair tool to damage enemy vehicles right now 😦 what a classic Battlefield thing to leave out 😦
dusty sluice
I miss whacking light tanks with melee weps
snow ermine
you can kill people with siringe so it will prolly be brought back as well
little fjord
I tried assuming it would work but repair tool didn't seem to damage the tank
azure lark
Also the Greece location will be one map with multiple game modes. That’s better than Panzerstorm being conquest only
dusty sluice
I really hope the new operation has breakthrough or frontlines on panzerstorm, conquest again would be lame
azure lark
kindred orchid
Jesus christ, so many toxic people playing on Breakthrough right now.
snow ermine
I don't understand thee logic at dice. Instead of introducing temporary game modes that people will forget about very quickly why not just add more maps
azure lark
They’re probably sick of hearing about it while working on other stuff lol
dusty sluice
Squad conquest seems like the remnants of incursions
azure lark
dusty sluice
Rush being ltm is dumb, probably quite unfinished though so maybe permanent mode in the future
snow ermine
rush is airborne essentially
dusty sluice
We’ll probably see new cover and different map layouts for rush but yeah my hopes are kept in check
timid stag
When you want to rank up your fighter planes but have to sit in the map screen for 5 mins
10/10
dusty sluice
Isn’t the amount of planes per side 3 max?
An air superiority mode would be cool with objectives and stuff
dusty sluice
jeez
low quail
2 planes 1 sanitater
dusty sluice
I thought stuff like BF1 air superiority and the whole Turning Tides dlc would be the blueprint for Air combat and naval combat in BF5 but now we have almost no planes and no navel combat at all
timid stag
Also I don't understand the logic when you unlock something and have to wait for next round to use it
snow ermine
the whole gamedesing was done by Pakistanis
dusty sluice
At one point I considered that BFV might have a pacific island hopping operation with navel fights inbetween fighting on the islands
I don’t think that’s ever gonna happen now
snow ermine
now the assignments are not tracked automatically you need to choose four for them to track. Why?
coarse thunder
We're onlyl in 1940
timid stag
But the hope for getting into late WWII depends how well the micro transaction do
dusty sluice
I know, but we don’t even have passanger boats, there’s 0 evidence of navel combat in BFV at all, not that the maps accommodate it
timid stag
Are you saying the game design was done by another studio @snow ermine
snow ermine
It's a pun by it definitly looks like the hired someone that doesn't know shit about intuitive menu design
timid stag
Ye
snow ermine
It's like it was made by an artsy hipster where you need to do a 100 clicks just to change a gun skin
dusty sluice
anthem ui is pretty bad too, do EA sports games have good UI? Think they might have a big hand in it
azure lark
They have a possible fix for ammo crates falling through the ground that may come in the February patch. They’re also going to be looking into and revising the launcher rifles across the board. Spam frag rifle while you can 😄
snow ermine
Remeber bf4 battlelog? Two clicks to change a gun skin or a loadout present without even OPENING THE GAME
dusty sluice
battlelog, oh how I took you for granted
coarse thunder
Let frag grenade rifle take up the spot of panzerfaust/PIAT
fading fox
Is this a discord where Dice and EA also look at?
dusty sluice
it’s either that or nerf it into uselessness apparently
coarse thunder
Just make the grenades timed
azure lark
What if Panzerfaust/Piat was locked to the vehicle buster assault class
dusty sluice
Was probably going to be with the OG combat roles
coarse thunder
Brings back a little sense of the "archetypes" that were initially going to be in the game
azure lark
So you choose assault against infantry or assault against tanks. Which may mean more assaults overall on a team vs every other class
snow ermine
@azure lark wouldn't change much since you still have dynamite and and antitank grenades
azure lark
Ahh, that’s right
dusty sluice
archetypes were cool but like 6 stats of varying damage/explosion/suppression resistance etc was way too much RPG mechanics for BF
Gun and gadget locks were fine
timid stag
After 30 hours I've come to hate this game I don't even know why I play it still
jovial forge
Breakthrough is still a pain in the ass to play. Engineer would of helped toning down Assault rocket spam
giving the launchers to Engineer and nade launchers to assault
Not that complex
yet somehow someone made it
snow ermine
Don't get your hopes high on firestorm. It might end up as a buggy mess.
dusky saffron
fading fox
Cheaters will destroy firestorm
glossy mulch
Well it's not gonna be perfect, but as long as the gameplay is fun it can always get ironed out for bugs, just like the multiplayer now, so much better
fading fox
Cheaters will fukk u up👀 👀
glossy mulch
@amber notch how soon, is soon? 😬
dusky saffron
Hackcusations were rampant today so I don't believe cheaters are gonna do anything lmao
amber notch
@glossy mulch next server update?
they said once the CC bug was fixed they would start pushing boins
fading fox
@dusky saffron what? Sorry english not the best.
snow ermine
cheating on firestorm actually makes sense
fading fox
@dusky saffron and rampant means? XD
dusky saffron
a lot basically
fading fox
Lol thanks
dusky saffron
ye
severe sable
There are so many actual visual ideas they could use for this game
dusky saffron
had a match where top scoreres on the enemy team were almost up to my score
dusty sluice
Boins mid feb probably
dusky saffron
friendlies were calling out hackers without naming anybody
dusty sluice
With new cosmetics ofc
snow ermine
boins 🤢
fading fox
@dusky saffron but they do it like that. They cheat so u cant notice on score board aswell.
dusty sluice
say it out loud, it’s fun
dusky saffron
I wouldn't call their top scorer, 27-10, cheating while I was like 36-7
and they were losing
fading fox
I can send links here?
dusty sluice
why would you even cheat at that point
dusky saffron
The thing is that they weren't cheating lmao
dusty sluice
Ah got confused
dusky saffron
the cheaters were unnamed so it was just an accusation for someone getting killed lmao
fading fox
@dusky saffron check this video and tell me they dont cheat. https://youtu.be/rdpTvPWR1hk
dusky saffron
Never said they didn't cheat
just saying that people like to cry wolf over things that aren't real ingame
or more like directing to the idea
dusty sluice
only good thing about playing console if you get to automatically label someone as a complete idiot if they accuse you of hacking
And, well,the no hacking
dusky saffron
What's the point of cheating where you'll lose your account for having a script play for you "as normal" as possible
just play the game at that point
dusty sluice
get another ea access trial and do it again
snow ermine
@dusky saffron did anyone have the actual brains to spectate?
snow ermine
then no point in complaining about it
fading fox
Well the only way now it seems to get a Ban is that someone spectating u and filming it.. And if scores are ok, Noone watches u
dusky saffron
baseless hackcusations were great today
azure lark
They’ve said there’s a blog post coming soon that details their efforts on combating cheaters.
dusky saffron
speaking of hackers
green elm
hello
dusky saffron
some chinese hacker got into my friends account when I was soloing at like 6 am
fading fox
Hope its a good one. I fkin hate it. I cant understand how they get excited about cheating, they must have been dropped Hard as a child
dusky saffron
immediately thought to myself "what the fuck"
"this guy is sleeping atm"
spectated the match
the hacker went like 0-6
fading fox
Gg
green elm
lol
dusky saffron
rq'd after
my friend got his account back shortly after
this person was a real bitch because like
green elm
hahaha what the hell i expected him to aimbot or something
dusky saffron
they changed all of his normal keybindings and attachments
severe sable
stats time.
dusky saffron
nah he wasn't aimbotting
severe sable
post your k/d to own the cheaters
severe sable
mine is 4.5 across all classes
dusky saffron
typing to him in the only chinese I knew on origins
severe sable
medic is lowest at 4
and let me tell you that i dreaded levelling that class up
the Mp40 salved my thoughts tho
Recon sits at almost 5
severe sable
the two shot slrs are amazing
dusky saffron
no but I did insult him in chinese slurs
severe sable
they are caryying my ass
severe sable
assault classes are the worst for me. I cant really get a handle on them
green elm
i never learn curse words cuz i never curse 👀
green elm
assault just...fight scouts up close and medics at a distance etc
and run from supports
fuck supports
azure lark
you can get around the censor by adding dick to the end of the word
green elm
fuckdick
little fjord
Pianodick
snow ermine
assault is the most versatile class currently in the game
green elm
1907 and stg are my favourite assault weps
dusky saffron
Assault and Support are the strongest classes ingame
snow ermine
self-loading rifles is the bee's knees
you can fight snipers or you can play aggressive close range
green elm
what’s the best slr anyway
green elm
selb has actual recoil tho
dusky saffron
mm
but it carries damage further
my only quip is that it lacks a mag, unlike the zh
severe sable
the zh is best because it has that six shot mag
so three kills are possible in a pinch
dusky saffron
in closer range
severe sable
it also has a slow enough rate of fire that recoil barely matters
dusky saffron
selb can 2 shot at any distance
green elm
for a second i thought we were talking about assault single shot rifles
severe sable
zh two shots at any range
dusky saffron
no it drops in damage
severe sable
ive always had two shot kills
you might be referring to the french gun
i forget the name
green elm
rsc
severe sable
yeah
green elm
the one who’s reload takes forever
severe sable
that three shots and drives me insane
the zh, if it does three shot, only does so at extreme ranges, certainly not close enough to be noticeable for me
i have noticed some three shots but i always assumed it was an arm shot plus a quick heal
jovial forge
Between the ZH and Selb 1906. I'll take the Selb 1906 for consistent 2 hit kills
jovial forge
I dont like the kick on the zh
jovial forge
For Recon, I tend to use the RSC, Model 8, Selb 1906 and Kar98
Fav ones of the bunch
severe sable
i hate the bolt actions
green elm
kad98 is love
jovial forge
that depends on positioning
green elm
i used to take a quick bolt action shot and then switch to my pistol for an easy kill
but lately i’ve lost my touch
green elm
and i kind of suck without a scope lately so i stopped doing that for now
yeah exactly it’s not practical
jovial forge
I tend to use my self loading rifles without a scope for maximum flex potential
plus scubs watching for glint
wont see it coming
green elm
i used to run no scope but i think it’s not great like in bf1
jovial forge
obviously
snow ermine
iron sights + dmr just feels so natural
jovial forge
The way bfv plays out. Only rifle Ive had luck with ironsights is the Enfield
tribal ledge
Bolt action rifles in general are kinda crappy in this game
jovial forge
but even then its not that worth when a Model 8, RSC or Selb 1906 do it better
for Recon
snow ermine
ironsights is like alcohol. it takes getting used to
tribal ledge
ZH 92 and Selb are the meta right now
green elm
irons were great in bf1
jovial forge
Its not just the ZH and 1906
tribal ledge
Martini Henry with iron sights was God tier in BF1
jovial forge
No its not
tribal ledge
Yes it is
jovial forge
Fastest RPM of the bunch
green elm
model 8 kills obscenely fast but i haven’t used zh much
jovial forge
drop em quick within the effective range
severe sable
if they gave the bolts a 10x and limited the two shots to a 6 or 4x
things would be balanced
snow ermine
10x would turn bf5 into a campfest
gray glade
hey hey hey, the mg42 didnt even get a 2x yet
snow ermine
it is bad as is
jovial forge
6x is fine
gray glade
and now you want to give 10x to bolt actions
jovial forge
need no more
severe sable
eh
smaller tvs
they exist
and a 6x is inadequate for a lot of ranges
otherwise every other gun outcompetes the bolts at the 6x optimal ranges
midnight nimbus
just turn off ADS FOV and turn up res scaling and 6x is fine
tribal ledge
Doesn't Selb have better damage / range than Mode 8?
I feel the damage length on Sebl us obscene
jovial forge
if they were to introduce 10x or more, they have to rework bullet behaviour on Bolt actions
And yes
but the Model 8 is for mid range game
gray glade
didn't they use 6x scopes at the most in ww2 anyways?
jovial forge
Not really
tribal ledge
And also ANY lmg in the game
severe sable
scopes were rare for infantry in ww2
gray glade
i mean for snipers
severe sable
it was mostly iron sights
jovial forge
Model 8 has a more consistent 2 hit kill while most Assault semi autos need 3 or above hits to kill
within the effective ranges that is
midnight nimbus
model 8 with aperture 👌
jovial forge
Ironsight Model 8 is love
severe sable
what does ads fov even do
i turn it off and my gun suddenly goes off the rails
sensitivity off the scales
jovial forge
Frankly I wish the Model 8 had a spec options to extend the mag size
midnight nimbus
turn it off and your ADS FOV isn't the same as your normal FOV
Model 8 should have 163 RPM 15+1 stendo
jovial forge
Model 8 with extended mag would be a nice flex weapon
severe sable
they would have to make it less accurate to conpensatep
jovial forge
Model 8 is the fastest of the bunch
midnight nimbus
RSC doesn't have 200 RPM option
severe sable
another reason not to use bolts
midnight nimbus
ease of use magazine tho
severe sable
if you move slightly your bullet goes off target
and in this game if you stand still you are dead
jovial forge
The differences are small but meaningfull between model 8 and the RSC
midnight nimbus
nah your bullet doesn't go off target, your point of aim just shifts
well you have moving spread too
but it's low in BFV
severe sable
ive seen my bullet sail off to the side
midnight nimbus
way too low
severe sable
just for moving an inch
snow ermine
@jovial forge maybe if you use different skill trees otherwise it's literally the same gun with a different skin
midnight nimbus
sniper rifles have like SMG move spread
well everything has insanely low move spread
dusky saffron
@midnight nimbus I couldn't check but does the zh loss damage over distance unlike the selb
midnight nimbus
just use screen dot
severe sable
and it is still enough to auck balls for a slow firing one shot weapon
midnight nimbus
ZH and 1906 have the same exact damage model @dusky saffron
jovial forge
@snow ermine Even at rank 0, they're different
jovial forge
Difference is small, but its there
tribal ledge
Doesn't it have the least bullet drag?
severe sable
which one?
jovial forge
Krag has less drag
severe sable
bullet drag is so insignificant of a stat for the ranges on these maps
except hamada
all knowledge of this game goes out the window on hamada
midnight nimbus
same drag on Kar and Krag
same velocity too
you can change it with upgrades tho
jovial forge
Kar98's drag kicks in sooner I think unless you use the perk
midnight nimbus
that's not how drag works lol
drag kicks in the same way for all guns
just the value changes
severe sable
i think he means bullet drop
midnight nimbus
and your velocity changes
severe sable
drag is a constant thing
midnight nimbus
bullet drop is the exact same for all guns in the game
midnight nimbus
-12 m/s^2 yes
bullet drop value is just one aspect
drag and velocity also factor in
severe sable
which is a function of the bullet velocity and range taken together
midnight nimbus
but the Krag and Kar have the same drop
due to the fact that they have the same bullet drop value, the same drag, and same velocity
severe sable
so the kars bullets would have their major drops at a different range from the enfield
which is visible
midnight nimbus
there's no sudden "major drop"
severe sable
well no
but there is a more noticeable arc
the enfield feels like it drops like a wet noodle
severe sable
which was my point
midnight nimbus
literal meme tier
severe sable
the bullet drop being noticeable at different ranges for differing velocities
and drag
midnight nimbus
drag is generally a constant
until you upgrade it
well, it's always a constant within the same weapon type
idk why people continue to insist on sniping in BF though
severe sable
its an acquired taste
i loved being recon in bf1
was going crazy 44-1 during my last month playing it
bfv has been one hell of an adjustment
sniping feels less fun
like every gun is firing rockets instead of high velocity rounds
so slrs are my thing now
tribal ledge
Snipers got shafted I'd BF V
severe sable
more reward for leas stress
tribal ledge
Because pistols are useless
tribal ledge
In BF1 you where a force to be reckon with if you where decent with sidearm
You could have pocket shotguns in BF1
severe sable
the webley reminds me of the bodeo
the bodeo was my king
i was getting two shots out to 20 meters
prisma quartz
revolver >slr close range
severe sable
pocket slr
bullet velocity is why this game can feel like shit
bf1 had such crystal clear velocities
that it felt like you were shooting ice crystals
thats how good it felt
gray glade
@prisma quartz does it actually work?
prisma quartz
don't know
midnight nimbus
people got what they wanted with BFV sniper rifles
topaz dome
top two weapons by kills in b1 - Mars automatic (578) and Auto revolver(562) bf1 time played 13 days 16~ hours
midnight nimbus
now they can watch le epic bullet drop
prisma quartz
but they at 100% after patch
karmic summit
Honestly getting Recon to 20 was incredibly painful
Played some hipfire Mp38 medic last night and it was amazingly fun
rough warren
so last night i made a comment about the lack of maps being made for BFV and i came across something interesting. we all know the map panzerstorm that was added to the game well originaly acrding too multiple sights it was a confirmed launch day map for the game like this one https://www.polygon.com/2018/11/1/18052174/battlefield-5-maps-launch-trailer so in reality they have not added a single map yet. the article was posted on November 1st 2018
rough warren
well technically it was a confirmed map made into a post launch map. just like the last campaign.
charred heron
I mean, the entire game is rushed out to meet the Christmas Sales schedule
"Release it now, finish it later"
Games as a Service, ladies and gentlemen
little fjord
Every game is rushed
If you want a polished battlefield game wait 2 years after it's released
little fjord
In the meantime I think bfv is pretty damn good and I'm having alot of fun playing it and it didn't cost much
charred heron
But even locking one entire Story experience of the SP away because it probably wasn't finished is just poor
severe sable
because u didnt get screwed by the fifty percent off sales
charred heron
The amount of base maps is awfully small
little fjord
Have you seen these maps? Like really looked them over... they are actually impressive
severe sable
nah
charred heron
Only somewhat fleshed out parts are the vehicle and gun part since BF1 didn't really had more to offer on base
steep radish
beautifully and graphically