inf loading screen and no respawn are the only 2 bad ones, and those are realy rare
#battlefield-legacy-titles
dense bone
kindred orchid
merry dove
im just thinkin about that ANNOYING bombers!
dense bone
bombers are not annoying anymore
amber notch
Been playing since premier day bucko
sudden siren
No, they're not
dense bone
i hardly die to them
amber notch
merry dove
im gettin triggered while just watching it
amber notch
Bombers 
kindred orchid
They can still be annoying, depending on the map and the player.
dense bone
i die to bombers like once ever few games
amber notch
They are useless now
kindred orchid
If one team dominates the skies.
Then bombers become an issue.
Otherwise, it's not that big of deal.
merry dove
some of youtubers, dropping few bombs and gets 5-10 kills. i dont want to be in that
kindred orchid
It's not as frequent as it sounds.
amber notch
Getting more than 2 kills in one run is rare now
amber notch
Good times
kindred orchid
Now I have issues with Stukas and their cannons.
little fjord
Occasionally I have a game with a good bomber and nobody is flying fighters or using aa... but its not often
south lynx
Cannon Stuka is good?
kindred orchid
Can't counter them in the skies, and they only need to hit you once with the cannon to down your plane.
soft storm
Cannon Stuka is very good
soft storm
Only worthwhile plane for the Germans after the JU88 and the Stuka B1
amber notch
Imagine unironically using the Stuka
south lynx
What about the 109 G-6?
soft storm
I one tapped a staghound today with a single 250 kilo bomb
little fjord
Also people seem to overlook the fact that you can't put a 3x on mmgs
little fjord
Little late but my input on mmgs
soft storm
Stick to the G2 now
soft storm
They do like 9 damage to infantry
south lynx
8x.303 spit was always good, only plane I was ever able to get air kills with using a HOTAS.
soft storm
Germans have the best bombers, brits have the best fighters
wild cape
^
soft storm
And both sides just have OP AA
amber notch
Valentine broken
south lynx
That's just because they didn't give the Mosquito its cookie.
south lynx
I both do and don't want to see them add a variant of the Mosquito that carries the cookie.
wild cape
Unfortunately, bombers don’t hold a candle to fighters - mk va gets behind your Stuka and you’re dead in the water (or air, I guess)
south lynx
Do because...it's a freaking 4000lb bomb. Don't because it'll either be stupid OP or hilariously awful.
soft storm
So really, now that people understand the plane meta, you can spec your AA appropriately. Keep the 4 rapid fire guns on the wirbelwind, since those will melt the British Fighters, and keep the single cannon on the Valentine AA since that will do very good damage to bombers, as well as any idiots using a German fighter
wild cape
The flakpanzer must be some kind of OP, It’s crazy good anti infantry and insane AA
soft storm
I watched a guy go from dominating the air in a spitfire to raging in chat because we had two AA tanks
shut walrus
south lynx
AA tanks should be the hard counter to air though. You're burning a tank slot on it.
soft storm
All the AA’s are crazy good against infantry. Until dice nerfs them.
rich dagger
Let me ask something about planes and shit (I’m new to battlefield) what’s like the best settings? I heard using space bar to pull up makes it easier. Thoughts?
soft storm
Yes
south lynx
Don't ask me, I fly with a HOTAS.
soft storm
Ok, go onto YouTube, and search silk BFV plane guide
south lynx
I just flail around the sky until someone puts me out of my misery.
shut walrus
Pitch with space and choose another key for diving (like control)
rich dagger
Ooo thank you @south lynx
soft storm
He has the best settings and can explain better than I can
soft storm
Yep
shut walrus
Also increase sensitivity for better turn rate
soft storm
Basically that
south lynx
...Yeah don't thank me yet. I'm still looking for the rest of my links.
soft storm
You’ll see when you watch his video
shut walrus
as @soft storm said, silk got some solid info
wild cape
I’ve gotten pretty damn good at manoeuvring planes on M/K, although I’m sure with practice I’d be much better with a controller
south lynx
The BF3 jet stuff still mostly applies from what high-tier players are saying.
soft storm
I also would’ve said watch pewpiepewper, but I personally think he’s an ass sooooo
shut walrus
There's no substitute than the accuracy you gain with a mouse
south lynx
Speed control isn't a thing anymore, but timing out of plane maneuvers and use of rolling scissors is.
shut walrus
aah scissor rolls, has save me countless times with someone on my tail. Just keep looping until they get boored is my strategy lol
wild cape
If al else fails and you can’t fly your plane into theirs, nose down and hit the deck, better than a kill for them 😉
south lynx
I'm a sim geek, it still looks like rolling scissors to me. (Also, BF dogfight community terminology is weird, it's all real terms used wildly incorrectly, or community terms.)
south lynx
It's just really jarring hearing someone go 'And now I'm gonna do a scissors' and watch them start rolling scissors instead.
soft storm
I’m gonna do a barrel roll does an aileron roll instead
south lynx
:twitch:
kindred orchid
The Rock Paper Scissors game is a tough one.
wild cape
Just don’t play lol
soft storm
Just don’t play lol
wary mason
BF3 JETS 
wild cape
Ha!
soft storm
Eventually, you cease to think
shut walrus
@wary mason Noooo Vietnam flashback of being spammed with rockets
shut walrus
BF3 community was pretty good though, a lot of community projects in movies and stuff
dusty sluice
Most players couldn’t get a chopper 50 ft off the ground before exploding
soft storm
That was before it became all animation and shitting on the game
dusty sluice
I was one of those
shut walrus
@Hess I know, and I'm slightly piffed off at that since I sucked with jets 
wary mason
kindred orchid
Also, twitch wasn't a huge thing, and people didn't gauge games by how many viewers are watching particular games.
shut walrus
soft storm
I actually could not for the life of me fly a chopper in BF3. Yet the moment I load up BF4 I could
wild cape
I don’t understand people who base game popularity off twitch popularity, some games just aren’t great for streaming
soft storm
My favorite was when people just gauged opinions on games via word of mouth
By that logic, real life must be amazing since so many twitch girls stream that
shut walrus
Wait, BF3 choppers were so much better, are you a wizard?
kindred orchid
I mean, real life can be amazing if you're a hot girl.
soft storm
Exactly
wild cape
Always follow rules 1 and 2 in life - it’ll get you anything
kindred orchid
Everyone just doesn't play at the same difficulty settings as them. 
soft storm
You can actually be relatively ugly and get far on twitch
Something something push up bra
wild cape
Lol
shut walrus
As a real gamer, I'm aspiring to be a 300 pound dude who chugs mountain dews and snacks on hot pockets to experience real hardcore difficulty in the game known as: IRL
shrewd bough
Ey respect waman
soft storm
oops, I dropped my pen, better to beeeeend over and pick it up
wild cape
“Oh, 90% of the screen is tiddies? This seems like good gaming content”
soft storm
Oh wow! Thanks for subbing to me! I’m gonna go over and write your name on my board!
bends over
south lynx
@shut walrus Ah, you're going with the hot pocket variant of that build. Nice to see someone break out of the cookie-cutter Dewritos build and try something different.
amber notch
Yikes
shut walrus
@wary mason I'm glad I'm cured of my BF3 getting-stomped-by- pilots-PTSD. You're report almost gave me a seizure.
But srsly, like HOW??
south lynx
BFV piloting has basically nothing to do with real flight though.
I'm a reasonable dogfighter in any realistic sim. Get my ass handed to me in BFV routinely.
shut walrus
yea but still, Hess always crumps on the enemy team in his little plane
wary mason
Bf3 jets were the golden age
south lynx
Also these days it's mostly about BVR fights and missiles.
shut walrus
I remember BF1 operations, always had a clean capture point when Hess was piloting
wary mason
I barely fly in bfv planes arent that good
shut walrus
What do they need to change in your opinion?
wary mason
The AA damage vs Planes
south lynx
TBH I wish BFV had gone with just a tad more realistic flight models, would open up a lot more room for interesting strategies.
wild cape
“Edit: Fixed caps” “Fisnninsh” lol
shut walrus
On an unrelated reason, I love the Flakpanzer 
wild cape
And yeah the flakpanzer is crazy good, best Axis tank
shut walrus
Pre-pacth AAs were broken though
sudden siren
Did the turner get a RPM buff?
shut walrus
@sudden siren I dunno lemme check
sudden siren
Fires a lot faster it feels like
wild cape
Flakpanzer shreds infantry too
south lynx
Please do.
wild cape
Does anyone else feel like they do better whilst trying to complete a challenge? I’ve been doing my mastery challenges and I’ve been doing so much better trying to complete them than I ever normally play
shut walrus
@sudden siren nope, it's the same at 360 RPM
soft storm
It’s almost like you’re trying torbear
shut walrus
@wary mason Sure lemme watch it 
soft storm
Honestly, the only things I would change about BFV are the vehicle balance
Which also means toning down the effectiveness of the assault...
wild cape
Pls keep staghound how it is
soft storm
The light tanks are like the most balanced thing in this game
charred heron
Not the Pz.38(t) with the 20mm gun
kindred orchid
There's definitely no drop for light tanks.
charred heron
Tho, it's always broken when you shove yourself under the enemy tank and prevent him from firing back
kindred orchid
But they also deal a lot less damage.
charred heron
Staghound has a crazy fast 30mm cannon
solid hinge
I love the autocannons
charred heron
Insect bites that sum up
soft storm
Yeah but it can’t destroy buildings
Which is my primary way to drive people out of objectives
soft storm
That’s suicide
strong parrot
@wary mason you know most people would have deleted footage like that but I give you props 
shut walrus
Hess, I'm 1 minute in and I'm pretty sure you don't have a shitbucket, you have a sh*tbarrel 
soft storm
If you can’t survive pushing up with a tiger or a Churchill, you basically have no chance with a staghound or 38t
charred heron
sitting in a building
No way to get out alive, enemies are swarming in
Allied tank just rams into the building outta nowhere and kills nearly everyone
wild cape
I’m pretty sure I’ve destroyed plenty buildings with the staghound cannon
Unless they changed that recently
solid hinge
I also feel like the light vehicles should be worse at driving through buildings
soft storm
The autocannons have like little to no ability to destroy buildings
I have tried, and it just doesn’t happen
charred heron
You can destroy destroy trees and small buildings like huts with the LT 20mm cannon
But you can't do the same with the AA 20mm cannons
soft storm
Yeah but what about the farm houses on Arras?
charred heron
solid hinge
wtf is dis
It's not piat level but you can destroy windows and stuff over time
doesn't look like any ragdoll glitch
icy sluice
I did really good in two games with the Suomi
wild cape
The current cannon I have on the staghound takes out the Arras SQCQ C barn thing
icy sluice
@solid hinge It's just an easter egg
soft storm
Are you on the spec tree with the rockets?
wild cape
Yes
soft storm
That’s why
solid hinge
@icy sluice very interesting
solid hinge
Fuck the rockets
south lynx
Rockets are love.
serene patrol
The best vehicle rockets are the ones you can get on a tank, no sarcasm
solid hinge
I've never been killed by them yet
soft storm
The rockets on the staghound work, I just don’t like the drop on it
solid hinge
I haven't even seen them fired
wild cape
I can change that @solid hinge
south lynx
They're fantastic for brawling tanks.
serene patrol
Other tanks* not the staghound
solid hinge
The only rocket staghounds I've seen have been blown to pieces by assaults
south lynx
They give the stag more burst damage than any other tank IIRC.
charred heron
I'll shove a 38cm rocket up your arse
Company of Heroes has great lines, why not having similar lines in BFV?
soft storm
I just like the auto cannon more because the staghound and the 38t are made for infantry killing
soft storm
You can have up to 6 or 7 tanks on any team, but there’s still many more infantry out there
wild cape
I use the machine gun for infantry
south lynx
Stag is great against tanks.
kindred orchid
Staghound with ammo/health crates is hilarious.
soft storm
And guess what? I don’t know a single tank that can one shot my staghound, but I know a lot of assaults that can
solid hinge
The autocannon is better vs infantry than the machine gun
serene patrol
Maybe the new German tank can, once it's available
solid hinge
i like the crate poopz
wild cape
If you’re close enough for an assault to kill you in a stag, there’s something wrong
Gotta keep a squad tight around you
charred heron
I prefer the 30mm gun on the Staghound since i prefer the MG to kill people
serene patrol
Not really, it's very easy to get flanked in most maps
charred heron
The gun is so hilariously fast
south lynx
30mm? The Stag only gets a 20mm and a 40mm.
soft storm
Suuure, maybe if the assault didn’t have an RPG
south lynx
Autocannon is 20mm, 2 pdr is 40mm.
soft storm
that can hit you from 200m away
wild cape
Cannon - tanks, machine gun - infantry
solid hinge
expecting any of your team to support your vehicle
south lynx
Other way around, vehicles support infantry.
soft storm
Lol, your team is more likely to take out an enemy tank just for the kills than trying to support you
solid hinge
I have 604 repairs which is NOTHING and it's in the 1% of repairs
serene patrol
Those filthy infantry don't deserve my support
wild cape
Lol
solid hinge
About every one in 10 times I have a vehicle someone gets in a turret
south lynx
You mean the top gunner's suicide booth?
solid hinge
It's a lone wolf business
soft storm
Naw, it isn’t so bad anymore
solid hinge
I mean the front seat
soft storm
The top gun is actually low key good now
wild cape
I love how the crouched people look in the top turret
charred heron
I actually had a few games where a squadmate actually repaired me as a Support
He insisted on it
solid hinge
:0
south lynx
Oh, yeah. I tend to be of mixed minds about that though. Hull gunners either get bored and wander off at the wrong moment, or suck.
charred heron
soft storm
I’ve had Hull gunners stay with me the entire game
solid hinge
I played one hamada breakthrough where someone dedicated healed my staghound
south lynx
Some do, and it's awesome when they do.
solid hinge
It made such a difference
solid hinge
AP rounds on the stag autocannon also are infantry DESTROYERS
kindred orchid
DESTROYERS, huh?
solid hinge
yes!
wild cape
Most people: Hull gunners. Me, an intellectual: carrying support players on the hull for protection, repairs and straight billet shielding for the top guy 
wary mason
@strong parrot
solid hinge
caps for coolness
kindred orchid
Should add in bold next time.
kindred orchid
It's okay, I believe in you.
wild cape
I still think the flakpanzer is the best anti infantry tank
wild cape
Bet
solid hinge
I suck at killing infantry with the flakpanzer
the british one
You can hit them like 10 times for 98 damage
serene patrol
idk how anyone can kill with a flakpanzer, cant see shit once you start firing
icy sluice
@solid hinge You do have the Valentine AA's case rounds
solid hinge
The Valentine AA either does 60 splash damage or deletes you from existence with those shotgun rounds
wild cape
Maybe it’s just me, but I rack up crazy kills on infantry with the flak
wild cape
4 billion rounds per second, shreds an infantry guy in a millisecond
wind pendant
valentine AA and aerodrome is a classic
solid hinge
And the dirt spray means you ain't seeing anything for the next 5 years
wind pendant
ironic that best map to use AA on
wild cape
That’s what the other 4 guns are for Ayla!
wind pendant
is one without aircraft
serene patrol
meh the medium tanks have the case rounds too
solid hinge
Valentine AA on aerodrome is the worst thing in the world
wind pendant
mediums fire slower + have like 4x less ammo
solid hinge
I hate it so much
strong parrot
@wary mason oh no he thought it was a complement...bail out!
wary mason
solid hinge
👀
strong parrot
on a serious note watching that video made me realize just how fucking much blue there was in that god damn game...holy christ dice needed to tone it down
charred heron
solid hinge
I've been using the Blen and JU more
bitter thicket
There's still too much blue in BFvlV honestly
solid hinge
Blen has a nice turret
bitter thicket
Bfv*
solid hinge
Full movement
bitter thicket
So much blue and orange
solid hinge
Pretty different to the JUs
charred heron
Stuka is best fighter plane
solid hinge
@bitter thicket nice pfp 👀
charred heron
Stuka > Shitfire > 109
solid hinge
can i hav👀
solid hinge
Neither of the 109s seem very good at anti air
profile pic
g-6 gets sick strafe run potential and the g-2 is good for spotting camera
bitter thicket
Ohhhhhhhh
amber notch
solid hinge
but neither are on the same level as 8 lmgs
bitter thicket
That's what I thought first, but then I thought it was going to stand for 3 words
solid hinge
xd
bitter thicket
Thanks for explaining lol
charred heron
@solid hinge Also, i love to strafe people near B on Fjell with the Shitfire
8 guns kill everything in a mere click
solid hinge
inb4 C
brrrrrrt
ikr
8 fking tachankas mounted on a plane
the JU gets those waffle pods though
16 guns
soft storm
Who would win? 8 Machine guns or 1 AA boi
charred heron
1 AA boi
soft storm
Exactly.
solid hinge
not enough people use waffenburhurgen or whatever it's called
i hate how AA make the screen go crazy in first person in a plane
Fjell sucks for anything bigger than a fighter
charred heron
Also, Stuka is hilarious with the armor and those 30mm guns
solid hinge
The bombers can't maneuver properly
soft storm
I was having a shitty time trying to level up the Stuka B2 on Hamada because of one dude using a spitfire, but then our team realized ”shit, it’s better to have 2 AA tanks that can shred planes and infantry than normal tanks.”
Immediately had a better game.
solid hinge
The mosquito gets it's fat wings caught too often
The sync between flakpanzers and B2 stukas are perfect
every tank will die to that stuka and so will every bomber
soft storm
Lol, the moment I could hear or feel that Spitfire coming I bailed back to our uncap and watched him get shredded by like 3 AA’s
charred heron
Tho, with the stationary AA change i can kill any fighter in one Salvo in any class
soft storm
I feel like if the Stuka B2 had access to both those cannons and some 50 kg or bigger bombs it would be the spitfire but for the Germans in terms of effectiveness
wind pendant
spitfire is 8x mg is virtually irrelevant for ground combat
soft storm
And if you don’t kill them you definitely suppressed them enough to spot them
solid hinge
8X .303 =
charred heron
soft storm
Those two bombs are nasty
storm marlin
This is off topic but has anyone here had skin cancer before? I’ve got a question.
soft storm
Bruh
storm marlin
Bruh?
soft storm
I’m like rank 20, I only really play for the assignments
steep radish
storm marlin
I’m rank 50
soft storm
No for the TOW rank
soft storm
Yeah but what if?
soft storm
Breakthrough is so laughable honestly
It worked in BF1 because everything was just OP
BFV, it’s obvious where and what parts are just bad
Cough cough Hamada cough
pale rain
I KNOW
soft storm
Or, even better! Rotterdam. Period
pale rain
Bruh Ayla and I busted our asses on a match earlier this afternoon lol
amber notch
soft storm
I’m telling you, Battlefield has never had such a shitty amount of maps on launch
pale rain
soft storm
I can say without a doubt, a quarter of the maps in this game suck
Hamada, Narvik, Rotterdam.
kindred orchid
I like Narvik and Rotterdam.
pale rain
Yeh
soft storm
How the hell you gonna tell me Rotterdam is a good map
It’s all buildings and bridge camping
solid hinge
Th at fucking hamada match
hamada breakthrough is such a pain
The points are so far apart
I love Rotterdam though
kindred orchid
I don't see that much camping on Rotterdam.
kindred orchid
I think Devastation is probably my favorite map, but it's cause it's a mostly infantry map.
solid hinge
i like fjell
soft storm
Ok, you know how people would use the helicopters on siege of shanghai rush in BF4 to get on the tallest buildings and snipe or use the XM25?
kindred orchid
I'd say Fjell was my 3rd favorite map, only because sometimes bombers are annoying.
soft storm
It’s basically that but much less of an issue on Rotterdam, but still an issue
solid hinge
you won't get rekt by bombers if you don't spawn
I don't like fjell because it highlights how meaningless the air is on the ground
dense bone
alrighty, time to grind for a... helmet
solid hinge
There hasn't been a single time I got in a plane and thought I was more useful than on foot
a very cool helmet*
soft storm
Planes have some impact on the ground. They can shoot people.
dense bone
i hear breakthrough is... pretty rough
solid hinge
just give us the whole outfit god damn
kindred orchid
Unless you're bombing or abusing Cannon Stuka, it's hard to feel useful in a plane on Fjell.
solid hinge
I think I've been killed by a strafing run once ever
soft storm
Just use the spitfire, that’s all everyone does
And if you can’t spitfire you use the JU88 or Stuka
solid hinge
If you go in a bomber on fjell you attract 5 spitfires
kindred orchid
If there's a good Stuka, it'll delete all the Spitfires.
solid hinge
there was a b2 on fjell that made me cry in the chat a while ago
soft storm
Yeah, NOW.
kindred orchid
But you cry so often though.
solid hinge
stupid stukas
kindred orchid
😛
solid hinge
kindred orchid
amber notch
Stuka users deserve to be removed from the game
soft storm
And spitfire users are any better
strong parrot
yikes how can a plane abuser also hate other plane abusers
soft storm
Simple
When one side gets the best plane in the game and the other doesn’t
Go onto YouTube and search BFV plane high kill gameplay.
Bet you it’s Spitfire gameplay
solid hinge
The spitfire is the only plane worth picking on allies though
strong parrot
youtube suggested me someones page that flys
solid hinge
It's not really their fault
strong parrot
first video i see of him
solid hinge
Every single axis plane has it's niche
solid hinge
strong parrot
he was 85-0 i think
solid hinge
that's inhumane
soft storm
It’s either Silk or some other dude
strong parrot
and hes even joking about "hue hue you guys are covering me from their planes"
silk yeah
soft storm
Yep
strong parrot
like...so fucking cancer
and then the comments ragging on him for flying with his platoon
"well go watch my 77-0 solo video then"
.....yeah ok
im sure the enemy had amazing pilots against you
and all the AA tanks
kindred orchid
Is he killing planes or is he killing infantry?
strong parrot
so pathetic too how sad the AA is on fjell...theyre literally calling out oh guy on AA at B....he goes on an attack run in his 109 shoots off rockets before the dude even can shoot him and kills the dude
soft storm
Which video are you talking about?
strong parrot
that was from the fjell 85-0 match or something
soft storm
Silk has a ton where he’s just destroying bad players
strong parrot
yeah...or like one on arras i was skipping through
just running between the resupply points every run lol...same damn thing
or he was 2v1ing this enemy pilot who was getting pissed with him
soft storm
All their highest viewed videos are them focusing on the chat rage
south lynx
I wish people would rage at me in chat...
soft storm
The plane community in battlefield games is one of the most toxic communities
south lynx
I usually just get comments about wasting planes and/or server slots.
soft storm
Especially in BFV, they’ve gone from OP, to shit, to OP over and over
Honestly, I blame it on how the game is. You cannot slow down your plane effectively, and all a dogfight is is getting behind somebody first
Made all pilots resort to either spitfire or G2’s or using bombers and switching to rear gun seat
south lynx
At least in an IRL dogfight the last thing you want to do is deliberately dump speed as a defensive maneuver. It's a desperation move.
But yeah, BFV planes fly weird.
soft storm
Yeah, but it would be nice to have the option
solid hinge
Vehicle gameplay isn't very interesting
soft storm
Nah, dice seems to think planes can’t do that
strong parrot
@solid hinge wow way to copy what I said 
solid hinge
It was an agreement!
soft storm
In BF1 and BF4 it was exciting because you knew you were powerful, but also that the enemy was powerful too
strong parrot
You didnt credit me!
solid hinge
They're too specialised towards something
strong parrot
copy write infringement
solid hinge
You have to play the same way or die
kindred orchid
Only time I like using vehicles is on Panzerstorm.
soft storm
Being on the British side is like winning the life lottery
solid hinge
ive started using staghound with autocannon AP rounds as a ZH combined with spotting scope
if you tap fire it's very accurate
timid stag
Is the goal of these weekly events show proof how every mode other them conquest sucks
kindred orchid
Breakthrough can be fun every once in awhile, Squad Conquest is not bad for small scale game-mode.
soft storm
Squad conquest is legit one of my favorite modes now
I’m loving the small size infantry modes
timid stag
Breakthrough just shows me how badly the maps are laid out
soft storm
Until you realize that the linearity of breakthrough allows the AA’s to find you very easily
timid stag
So many choke points
solid hinge
that implies anyone gets in the AA
timid stag
And spam grenades
soft storm
Bruh, the aa is literally God
If it was able to take down tanks reliably I would main AA’s
solid hinge
ok, why the fuck there are no frontlines servers?
soft storm
Because it’s trash in BFV?
timid stag
Dead game mode
soft storm
Everyone is doing Breakthrough?
solid hinge
no its been like this since the start of chapter 2
there are no even frontlines in grand ops
soft storm
Server browser perhaps? I don’t know Frontlines in BFV is rather shit
solid hinge
like when i join grand ops i can play on frontlines, when i use server browser it doesn't show any frontlines servers even if there are some running in grand ops
soft storm
Because grand Ops is it’s own thing
timid stag
You know why Breakthrough sucks? They have a building mechanic in this game
dense bone
welp, breakthrough sucks, but we won
timid stag
And don't let defenders build before the attack
dense bone
its incredible how many people dont stand on the obj
theres 15 people AROUND it while it gets capped
timid stag
You're a sitting duck building
soft storm
If Breakthrough gave defenders time to build for maybe 30 seconds you could definitely have a better time
It’d be like if siege just allowed attackers to attack immediately
soft storm
I feel like a lot of the talent left after BF4
weak scroll
Any way to make money playing this game besides streaming
soft storm
Yeah
weak scroll
On console
soft storm
Yeah
solid hinge
personal medic
soft storm
Sell toe pics
solid hinge
Dice if the Tank daily order doesn’t track get rid of it
timid stag
I just want a dogfight only mode
But that probably does not come till 2020
Cause lots of work for this small indie team
solid hinge
cant wait to buy specs for my PIAT
amber notch
Yikes
solid hinge
dogfight only mode would just be spitfires
amber notch
Shitfires
solid hinge
and that's already every air fight
I can't believe the blenheim doesn't get machine gun ammo when it resupplies
As if it wasn't already shit enough
timid stag
Oversight by indie team
solid hinge
It's been brought up a whole bunch
timid stag
They'll fix in 8 months
amber notch
@solid hinge 
solid hinge
I pray
amber notch
solid hinge
The 20mm cannons don't feel effective enough without 4 of them
Having to swap between the cannons and the lmgs is lame
Why would you ever want 2 cannons and 2 lmgs instead of just more lmgs
solid hinge
piat or frag rifle for killing infantry ?
amber notch
Both are
rotund sentinel
We are losing objective Anton!
amber notch
Especially atm
solid hinge
we need more gadgets tbh
For the fighters Pow
Or even B-1 stuka
It's just not worth having 20mm cannon ever
there's a pretty large lack of gadgets right now
amber notch
Well you aren’t wrong
I’m pretty sure they have different overheat timers
That might be one of the aspects
solid hinge
we need drones with 5x 20mm cannons
That just spaces your dps out
3:
8 x lmgs overheats super quick but it doesn't matter because everything you shoot at dies
correct
it shreds
solid hinge
goddamn
amber notch
But it’s a glass cannon
solid hinge
i noticed something !
amber notch
Any fighter plane will win if you aren’t behind them
solid hinge
in asian servers people don't say gg
big damage and lotsa bombs but as soon as anyone gets behind you you're fucked
unless you manage to land in a field on twisted steel
solid hinge
It feels a lot nicer to use on breakthrough
Less planes cluttering it up
yall arguing about planes i am here wondering why people don't type gg in asian servers
👀
Probably cause they speak not english
solid hinge
lol
amber notch
amber notch
Get assists
desert dune
We have those days
muted socket
dang snipers
desert dune
You’re just being a heck 
amber notch
dense bone
breathrough is annoying
little fjord
Some people don't like it... it's my fav game mode
foggy summit
its fun
kindred orchid
It's probably really annoying now.
muted socket
whys that?
dense bone
so many people dont know how to play the obj
muted socket
everyone going for the assignments?
serene patrol
lol actually had a high ticket golmund railway that ended up a close game
dense bone
half the team is assault, and tanks are rampant
i got revived a couple of times
people just zone out and shoot aimlessly
foggy summit
solid hinge
play recon and use flares for breakthrough
solid hinge
If you're squad lead you get enough points every few flares to call in supply canisters forever
amber notch
😩
solid hinge
The fighter flares are REALLY good now
amber notch
Yes
solid hinge
I‘m not getting any cc from games
They seem to get replaced in all the spec trees though
amber notch
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muted socket
oh fuck half of my team is assault
foggy summit
nothing wrong with it
solid hinge
throws 6 dynamites at you
mounds are the most dangerous thing in the game
at any moment dynamite might fly over it
solid hinge
I'm serious!
amber notch
Mud is the worst thing in bfv
solid hinge
The amount of random dynamites from some dude just chucking them into the air
amber notch
My outfits get dirty
foggy summit
charred dawn
I just got pancake'd by a Mosquito lol
amber notch
Relatable
foggy summit
cus of the tow missions
scarlet wave
So
solid hinge
medic is common in breakthrough
scarlet wave
The Last Tiger thing still isn’t fixed?
muted socket
what needs to be fixed?
real moth
oh i remember now
scarlet wave
I’m getting a glitch where all my stuff is done but it doesn’t show it in the home screen
real moth
sooo, for the semi auto rifles, specifically the maa...what kind of scope do you guys prefer?
foggy summit
i always use 3x on semi rifles
real moth
in close quarters, do you just hip fire?
random dust
if you come across MrBundy99 in your game, report him. Blatant hacker with no care for hiding it.
foggy summit
both
foggy summit
but thats just me try what u like the most @real moth ;p
real moth
random dust
i can't use semi-auto rifles at all
real moth
y
random dust
I'm always too close and everything out-shoots me firerate wise
real moth
hmmmmmm try breakthrough
solid hinge
The semis have some really fast kill times
real moth
they're on big maps, with a lot of ppl
solid hinge
Turner can throw out over half it's mag in one second
solid hinge
Same as the MAA
pale rain
That g1-5 is my baby
muted socket
i like them in bf1 but since i only do medic i dont use them
real moth
yeah same. im going for assignments tho
random dust
I just don't have good hand-control with the mouse. if I could hold down the mouse button to fire, i would be fine. the tapping fucks up my aim.
solid hinge
could try turning your sensitivity down?
real moth
^
foggy summit
@random dust just keep using it u will improve over time
random dust
then i have the opposite problem to where i can't turn to my side fast enough to react to someone flanking me XD
ive been playing battlefields for years CytoN. i don't think it's a matter of practice.
civic sun
Lol
solid hinge
Try a lower sensitivity but a larger mouse mat
solid hinge
The mmgs used to be better before bipod got nerfed
real moth
thank god
civic sun
mmgs are still god
civic sun
now all they need to do is nerf the semi rifles
solid hinge
I like the mg34 but it seems pretty much inferior to the mg42 in every way
real moth
dude
real moth
they just sit there with the bipod
glacial wedge
im so excited
glacial wedge
i havent played bf in years. finally gaming back up again1
muted socket
3-8 :/
real moth
trashy ur gonna love it
civic sun
or hate it
real moth
nawh love
civic sun
nah hate it
civic sun
platform?
rotund sentinel
Sanitater!
real moth
LOS LOS
civic sun
SHITZER
random dust
wait they nerfed bipods?
civic sun
HELPVIA
random dust
i thought they were making them better?
real moth
lol
civic sun
lol
no bipods are OP
You cant use mmgs without them
they should buff the lewis gun
:/
random dust
disagree
Lewisgun is what I see all the hacker videos using lol.
that or the MG-42
civic sun
I hate wasting 50 shots to kill one fucking guy
okay well those are hackers
That doesnt count
and Im on ps4 so hackers dont apply to me
random dust
i mean it's not like they make the gun hit harder
civic sun
lol
civic sun
EVERYONE
real moth
point
civic sun
on bfv pc
solid hinge
They made them more reliable, but they used to stack with the recoil reduction from crouching and proning and now they don't
random dust
dude it's everywhere lol
i just got out of a game with one that was so bad i had to record the shit
civic sun
hacking takes skill
real moth
lol
solid hinge
Lewis absolutely doesn't need buffing it's like the best LMG
snow ermine
so many desperate noobs these days hence the popularity of hacks
civic sun
lewis is trash
real moth
agreed ayla
civic sun
I love it
icy sluice
What's the last objective again?
real moth
i get sprayed by that a lot
civic sun
But it is trash
solid hinge
It's got a big mag and big accuracy and a bipod and a decent fire rate
foggy summit
253 hours in BFV and only saw 2 hackers on pc
muted socket
i know its just a video game
but am i the only one who feels a bit depressed hearing the british voice when youre calling for a medic
foggy summit
most of the time the enemys blame me for hacking
solid hinge
You wont win against an assault rifle but it's a very solid lmg
civic sun
bf1 though was 100x more depressing
muted socket
THERES BLOOD EVERYWHERE
snow ermine
@muted socket you can change the language
muted socket
even for the british>
snow ermine
as long as it's not a woman screaming i'm fine with any accent
solid hinge
...
snow ermine
they are only hot if you're a pervert and a freak
civic sun
facts
solid hinge
i have 0 problems with flats anyways
glacial wedge
add me - ppl who don't mind playing with an utterly complete nooob - wont be able to play today bc 3 hours of downloading....
solid hinge
since bf1 people keep bullshitting about realistic sht
do u think bf1 was realistic ?
solid hinge
none of this ww1 shit was realistic
snow ermine
bf has never been realistic, but women screaming is a step too far
civic sun
I felt like I was in a war
solid hinge
u think ww1 was this chaotic ?
civic sun
Yeah
muted socket
half the guns in bf1 were prototypes
civic sun
absoluty
solid hinge
ww1 wasn't like that
solid hinge
nah
muted socket
4-16 😦
solid hinge
most of it was sitting in trenches and charging and dying
civic sun
It wasnt head to head battles like in bf1
they would charge each other
sometimes
ww1 was hectic, wasnt a bunch of sitting ducks in a trench
solid hinge
what have you created bf1
snow ermine
best assault gun in bf1 is an obscure prototype that doesn't even exist today
civic sun
bf is all about those "cool weapons"
bf4 had some fake weapons ya know
i like bf1's take on ww1
foggy summit
i dont mind prototype guns in a game ;p
civic sun
gives some of the less appreciated guns sum love
solid hinge
yeah
civic sun
This is still a game kids
muted socket
the starting weapon for the assault in bfv was manufactured for civilians and saw no use in the wehrmact
civic sun
not a simulator
snow ermine
bf the games spark interest in weapon history for sure
muted socket
no i mean bfv
civic sun
the strumgewher?
muted socket
yeah
civic sun
This game doesnt exactly go for "historical accuracy"
muted socket
yeah i know
civic sun
I wish it went for historical authenticity
muted socket
googled it and the mp18 was used at the very end of the war
solid hinge
lol
civic sun
and there would be swastikas
snow ermine
if bf games went for historical authenticity you would be running with three guns for each class forever
muted socket
yeah thats no fun
civic sun
I mean
muted socket
except for bf1943
civic sun
Not exactly
That would be realism
authenticity in my opinion is how ww2 like the game feels
midnight nimbus
there were more MP18s in WW1 than there were FG42s in WW2
BF would be a better game if the community stopped caring about muh realism
civic sun
how many mp18's were there?
foggy summit
@midnight nimbus
charred dawn
Oh my god i suck at Scout so much it's frustrating
midnight nimbus
5000 MP18s in WW1, 2000 FG42s in WW2
snow ermine
bf is unrealistic at this point as you can possibly get. braveheart warpaint and hispter outfits. so no it's not a better game now.
muted socket
really? i did not know that
civic sun
if bf1 had bfv's gunplay
solid hinge
kids who didn't know sht about ww1 thought bf1 was realistic to the point that every bf game from now on must be realistic
snow ermine
also golden guns
midnight nimbus
BF1 gunplay is great, people were just terrible at it
muted socket
idk it feels weird to me that authenticity is a deal breaker for a battlefield game
civic sun
compared to this
snow ermine
bf5 ttk it's the same ttk as bf3 literally
civic sun
I hope bf vietnam is going to come next
minus the B hopping
God I have ptsd from that
midnight nimbus
people just don't have trigger discipline and suck at bursting/shooting/being accurate
so yeah, people didn't like BF1 gunplay
civic sun
sweetspots