which is stupid
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
marsh ledge
They could've just kept it as it was, but...
chilly thunder
back to grinding the gewehr challenge
solid hinge
I wouldn't mind the swap up if medic had shotguns
chilly thunder
gotta get that last gold camo
marsh ledge
@chilly thunder Good luck.
solid hinge
It'd fix most of my problems with it
chilly thunder
thanks! its been hell
marsh ledge
Honestly, I just get on the game when the DLCs come out and get the weapons and what not then log off.
ancient mica
tbh the Tomphson feels worse in handeling now
mystic wolf
wtf is with this lens flare
i dont remember no lens flare in the patch notes
this is highly offensive
stuck plaza
solid hinge
Lens flare?
mystic wolf
lens flare
mystic wolf
yeh
bitter oracle
will dice do something about joining the shit team in matchmaking?
edgy jewel
😂
compact oxide
Unironically; the reason you're joining the shit team is they're all leaving
solid hinge
That wasn't on the patch notes!
compact oxide
@solid hinge yup, range is back to beta BUT the uptime is much shorter
solid hinge
ARGH
compact oxide
Yeah I didn't see it either
solid hinge
one pump chump then
compact oxide
It's actually real good now
solid hinge
the new kill cam is just so anoying..
unkempt scroll
CC still not fixed
compact oxide
Gives you a snapshot of the flag then you go off memory
solid hinge
That suits me just fine
compact oxide
Me too 😃
solid hinge
It takes so long between that and the revive screen
Nice to have an alternative when pushing
And the webley got buffed..
fathom pebble
So I heard the plane is fun 
compact oxide
I can't hit headshots that close 😦
fathom pebble
Also morning
solid hinge
Wrong game my friend
thorn current
so the killcam is fked up? lol nice testing
solid hinge
That's why you panic hipfire and get accidental headshit
thorn current
maybe bring back test servers so community can do QA for you
solid hinge
We're testing it right now
compact oxide
Just don't die 
bitter oracle
stfu @thorn current the devs know best
thorn current
and if you do die dont expect to be revived because no one can see how long you have left to live 😄 😃
warm obsidian
Are they still gonna update bf1 because I've still been noticing big bugs
sleek trail
so are the smg's suppose to be buffed?? mp34 seems to handle exactly the same to me.. 😦
solid hinge
Mp34 was already the best long range smg so maybe it's less noticeable
pale rain
Haven’t gotten on since the update
thorn current
Just going to strap on my dont die helmet, squeeze down into a dont die cannon and fire off into dont die land.
pale rain
Are the smgs worth using over other guns now?
sleek trail
oh i'm sorry. i mean the other MP.. the fast firing one
seems just as erratic as before.. at least on console
thorn current
broken a bunch of shit
unkempt scroll
CC not fixed yet either lol
guess ill try convince a EA support clown to give me some, prob won't work but im really frustrated now
marble phoenix
the vaulting seems smoother
and the death cam is appreciated
little long but i'll take it
compact oxide
The update has broken some stuff BUT has fixed footsteps, vaulting to a degree, has buffed SMGs and flares and made the stuka siren louder so it's worth it
unkempt scroll
only stuka thats fun to use now is the one with the dual cannons
soft storm
So can we get a list of things the patch notes didn’t mention
unkempt scroll
the bomber one doesn't even have a indicator anymore so you drop the bomb blindly
Dice: No its secret
unkempt scroll
y is it cancer
solid hinge
how are you supposed to learn it
soft storm
They got rid of the third person bombing reticle?!
solid hinge
why would you remove it on the plane that needs it the most
unkempt scroll
i had alot of fun with that 1k bomb
solid hinge
what the fuck
unkempt scroll
now it isn't
thorn current
do they even test these patches? play for 5 minutes they would see many isssues.
soft storm
Because you’re supposed to dive bomb with it
compact oxide
I did notice the ju88 was half my deaths tonight
soft storm
You use the cockpit reticle to aim it
unkempt scroll
if i dive bomb with it im gonna get gang raped by spitrfire
solid hinge
You can only see that fuckin 3rd person reticle on console if you're diving anyway
soft storm
You guy high, drop the bombs, then skkkkkirt out
soft storm
It isn’t but now it’s the only choice
unkempt scroll
and CC is still fucked
soft storm
Besides guessing
soft storm
But I’m not Niccaman
unkempt scroll
some fucking
compact oxide
Cc is fine for me still
haughty pawn
so i just played 4 rounds,never seen so many ppl leaving during games,feels weird as af anyways
soft storm
Dive bombers aimed irl using the regular aiming reticle that they use for main guns
They literally went straight down, and pulled up at the last second.
solid hinge
😦
soft storm
That’s why the dive breaks are useful on the Stuka
unkempt scroll
the only stuka weapons thats fun to use are those heavy dual cannons
it shreds vehicles now
in a few shots
solid hinge
guess ill swap to that stuka
compact oxide
And you've got 30% more ammo in planes now
soft storm
Mine the supply depots
compact oxide
Na, put AP mines next to the heath boxes
soft storm
They either roll over them or blow them up and destroy the depots
unkempt scroll
die?
solid hinge
🅱
solid hinge
Its funny cuz we didnt get the tanks yet
compact oxide
I wanna play more but I need to sleep
solid hinge
LETS W8 FOR THE TIDES OF GAY
compact oxide
Can I have the D?
unkempt scroll
Yes
solid hinge
We have lost objective Dog
unkempt scroll
Oof
compact oxide
Objective Dennis
unkempt scroll
We have lost objective Shit
little zenith
was the patch notes for todays updates released?
sleek tartan
how is your experience with the patch so far
solid hinge
💩
shut cipher
I have no idea how to use planes in battlefield
thorn current
killcam actually spots you as well now? lol
shut cipher
I tried to spawn in one that drops bombs but I didn't know how to do it
sleek tartan
why would a guy that can do 140 kills on domination use planes
shut cipher
@sleek tartan who
sleek tartan
you
sleek tartan
you told me you did 140 kills in one match the other day
shut cipher
no
shut cipher
I said the points went 127-0
sleek tartan
I guess you missunderstood me then, and I didn't realize
unkempt scroll
and ur getting CC
gray glade
patch verdict?
thorn current
killcam spots you now
shut cipher
how big is the patch on console
unkempt scroll
its suppose to be fixed tomorrow
shut cipher
where can I find that info
unkempt scroll
and its gonna be the third "fix"
why can't they just give everyone 30k points now as compensation
for this shit
vocal charm
#game-news @shut cipher
shut cipher
they should do that just for all the game breaking bugs this game has @unkempt scroll
such as infinite loading screens
every other match either my friend or I gets stuck in a black infinite loading screen
vocal charm
Yeah
shut cipher
and usually if I try to leave a game the same thing happens
shut cipher
this has been a problem since release and as far as I know it has not been talked about
thorn current
do you have UPnP on in your router?
shut cipher
that's why I held off on buying this
thorn current
I looked into it a bit seems to be related to UDP connection timeout
and packet loss
thorn current
turn on network meter in options and see if you have more than 2% packet loss when it happens
shut cipher
@thorn current I have no idea what you're talking about
thorn current
@shut cipher if you play on PC turn on the network meter in options and see what your packet loss value is
tame gale
This live service is pathetic
stone brook
Give Dice a break guys! They need time to perform extensive testing to make sure there aren't any major glaring issues with the updates.
tame gale
Funny
gray glade
Havent tried the patch yet, whats the issue with patch+
vocal charm
There’s millions of lines of code that need to be scrubbed out and redone
shut cipher
@thorn current I don't
tame gale
This is a rushed game for sure
shut cipher
I don't use my PC for FPS games lol
vocal charm
Can’t be worse than IW tho
stone brook
this is not a AAA game, this is a game still in beta
thorn current
well the inifnite loading bug is some type of network issue
shut cipher
pre alpha @stone brook
shut cipher
I love this game I just hate the bugs
I don't neglect it because of them
like I've never played a better TDM than the one in this game
bitter oracle
I'm buying COD for sure.
tame gale
Bruh I hate tdm
stone brook
i love the game but it has way too many bugs that should have never made it past testing or should have been fixed a month ago
tame gale
The maps are too big for it to be a tdm
shut cipher
I like that it's a fight for defensive positions like someone said here last night
@tame gale that's where you're wrong
tame gale
Lol
stone brook
the maps are big doe
shut cipher
nah I'll send you some clips and you'll see what I mean
tame gale
BF4 tdm was the best. Small close quarter maps
shut cipher
I don't sit and camp
I defend a certain position just like any good COD player does in TDM
stone brook
i remember the good ole days of 64 player hardcore TDM on Canals, a map half the size of the Twisted Steel TDM map
shut cipher
with these large teams the map sizes are fine
it's not like you ever have trouble finding people
tame gale
And seriously twisted steel has the worst tdm location. It would have been much better if it was on the bridge
stone brook
? the teams aren't large
32 player TDM is half of what it was in BFs before 1
they cut the game mode player count in half and made the maps bigger
shut cipher
compared to any other game you are telling me 16 player teams isn't a lot
tame gale
@stone brook I just feel like selling my PS4 and getting a pc just to play bf3
stone brook
i can only imagine how empty 32 player conquest feels on console
shut cipher
the only one I like is TDM
solid hinge
Frontlines is good
tame gale
I don't which one it is but one of the game modes is fucking annoying. It's just back and forth back and forth capturing the objectived
stone brook
i like domination
shut cipher
every single objective mode is like that
stone brook
easy to jack up my kill count and score/min
tame gale
No I think it's frontlines
stone brook
frontlines is kinda like tug of war
tame gale
Yh I hate that one
solid hinge
How can you hate the BEST MODE
tame gale
All the time my team captures there's then they capture ours and so on
azure vault
frontlines mode, best mode
shut cipher
vehicles have no place in that mode
stone brook
sucks that 64p frontlines is only in grand ops
shut cipher
at least not on rotterdam that's for sure
solid hinge
You just have to push forwards
It's a bit of back and forth until your team gets rolling
It does depend on the map
thorn current
if you dont like conquest in BF you are doing it wrong lol
solid hinge
Hamada frontlines is the most unfun thing I've ever played
little fjord
🤔
Conquest is a fustercluck... essentially 64 player tdm... sometimes it's fun... some times it's not
stone brook
oh nice cool new feature in this patch!
green kernel
Serious question though.. are they aware of the shitty hit indicator now? Get shot by one person and it tells me it's coming in three different locations
stone brook
You can no longer do the Thank You! emote while being revived
Thanks Dice, just what we wanted
thorn current
revive icon above downed players heads is bugged too
wind pendant
@solid hinge hamada breakthrough is pretty trash too
thorn current
you get spotted by killcam
stone brook
i don't have the option to buy ag/42 in the assault menu 🤔
coulda swore i saw it there the other day
icy sluice
I hear vaulting works now
jovial forge
Heard the chauchut lmg is in one of week assignments to come
And of course people are complaining about recycling
stone brook
if we're bringing back weapons from BF1, you know what we REALLY need?
The M10A Hunter... for Assaults
Amirite?
shut cipher
@thorn current nah conquest has been fucked the last 3 BF games
icy sluice
Can't wait to unlock the bipod for my pickaxe
jovial forge
Only of it was used in both wars
shut cipher
the last time I liked conquest was BF4
until it's a modern game I'm not playing conquest
it's no fun without choppers and modern equipment
like BF4 had tons of gadgets and stuff you could use
that little robot thing I would send up the elevator on siege of shanghai and get like 2-3 kills with
jovial forge
Complaining about weapons that were used in ww1 into ww2 essentially means EVERYTHING is recycled practically 
icy sluice
Choppers are usually the most cheesed thing in conquest
jovial forge
Makes you look uneducated to ironically
shut cipher
the only reason I like them is for parachuting out of them @icy sluice
solid hinge
@wind pendant hamada is pretty shit in general
icy sluice
How's the Jericho sirens now btw?
azure vault
SO LOUD
icy sluice
K
jovial forge
Just cap G on hamada
azure vault
I LOVE IT
wind pendant
Yes. Only conquest is somewhat tolerable at the moment
azure vault
AM I SHOUTING I CANT TELL
shut cipher
my friends and I would go take one up to a building and jump out with snipers and set down a spawn beacon
solid hinge
Prepare for chauchat 3x scope lmg
icy sluice
I'm expecting ear rape sirens now
shut cipher
siege of shanghai and operator locker are probably my 2 favorite maps of all time
wind pendant
origin DL speed is fucking weak, 1 mb/s when i do 10 times that
jovial forge
Operation locker was shit
shut cipher
operation*
jovial forge
So much got nerfed because of it
shut cipher
idc
fluid warren
new update is 20gb what the fuck
fluid warren
says 20 for me
shut cipher
it's verifying
solid hinge
@shut cipher stuka is the German divebomb plane
jovial forge
Its bigger for those that havent been playing bfv much
icy sluice
@shut cipher stuka is loud plane
shut cipher
why do they keep making it louder
fluid warren
it was verifying real slow at first so i thought it was my internet
shut cipher
lol
jovial forge
Because people whine that they cant hear it before death
icy sluice
NOT LOUD ENOUGH
solid hinge
WHEEEEE
shut cipher
also where is that kid that called me a camper I want to show him gameplay
solid hinge
I don't understand people who play a war game and aren't interested in the vehicles
jovial forge
Tdm gameplay does no justice tho
shut cipher
I am but I just love the way TDM plays in this game compared to previous battlefield games
dusky saffron
damn it 
shut cipher
and like I said I'm not interested in conquest until it's a modern game with choppers and skyscrapers
solid hinge
tfw you love mini tanks so much they break your words
solid hinge
When you consider how much smaller the tiny panzer is than the tiger
The tiger really should be dying slower
echo jasper
Man this deathcam shit is driving me insane
jovial forge
How?
dusky saffron
by an assault
solid hinge
Big fuckoff tanks should be tanky
solid hinge
and weak splash
dusky saffron
I mean all tanks have weak main cannon splash
jovial forge
I hate it when assaults zerg me in a tiger. It's so stupid
dusky saffron
to orient them towards directional destruction
solid hinge
It's a BIG tank though
dusky saffron
you're a big tank
wind pendant
they did improve that by increasing damage done against prone targets
solid hinge
I shoot people running a lot
dusky saffron
like baby tank
solid hinge
It makes more smoke than it makes damage
solid hinge
I shoot people for 60 damage and then I can't see them through the dirt and shit
solid hinge
advantage of smaller tanks once more
azure vault
why
jovial forge
Then you got assaults blatantly running along you with dynamite
solid hinge
20mm domination
azure vault
it worked fine in every other goddamn game
dusky saffron
also
azure vault
welp, better reinvent the wheel
jovial forge
Ragdolls never fail to disappoint
echo jasper
So I ain't the only one at least that thinks so @azure vault
dusky saffron
nah but with the deathcam delay and there being no delay in revives, the flat downed models look fucking weird
azure vault
thats squad conquest
echo jasper
@cold drift it's a bug
cold drift
👌
strong spear
Are there any updates on RSP's?
strong spear
Low key want my own server lol
jovial forge
Panzerfaust does less damage apparently
Less instant turret disables is nice
But I havent been on bfv to see the update
solid hinge
panzerfaust should be strong while the piat is WEAK
dusky saffron
jovial forge
This is why an engineer class should of been resurrected to mitigate panzerfaust spam
strong spear
solid hinge
It's currently the same strength as the piddly little piat shot
strong spear
Just make it ADS again
strong spear
Like in the beta
dusky saffron
solid hinge
piat is madly op compared to the faust right now
strong spear
Piat>Panzerfaust
echo jasper
"• Improved the death experience with the addition of a camera that now follows and
zooms towards the killer. This will allow players to understand what killed them and
the position of the killer." Please let mo choose if i want this or not. I mean, i can still get revived before the end of this cam which is retarded
strong spear
Oof
solid hinge
the faust literally offers nothing the piat doesn't
jovial forge
PIAT 
little fjord
Get fausted
strong spear
Get schrecked
round tangle
Apparently there's a torso skin that uses Axis clothes texture with half-trench coat
nice camo
I'm so tempting to buy that just to have fun
simple zinc
Has the Bombing Reticle been removed from Planes?
solid hinge
nerf piat damage against vehicles, add the panzerschreck as a fast reloading consistent anti-vehicle option and the panzerfaust as a slow reloading high speed and damage solely anti-vehicle option
dusky saffron
A lot of the Axis gear is very niceu
solid hinge
@simple zinc just stuka apparently
dusky saffron
I just want hair for my characters tbh 
strong spear
I just want an officer cap and trenchcoat tbh
dusky saffron
Wait
strong spear
Don't like canis
simple zinc
Bug, or intentional?
round tangle
As infantry player: please nerf stuka
dusky saffron
no no
solid hinge
Seemingly intentional
tepid coral
Tanks can now cap flags all by themselves now thanks to the patch 😁
shut cipher
you guys want to see the worst battlefield clip of all time
dusky saffron
they move onto the next
solid hinge
NO
dusky saffron
YES
solid hinge
NO
dusky saffron
NO MORE BOMBING RETICLES
strong spear
OOF
dusky saffron
A NEW DAWN SHALL BEGIN
solid hinge
THEY BUFFED THE CANNON STUKA
dusky saffron
YOU'LL HAVE TO AIM
solid hinge
EVERYONE'S JUST MOVING TO THAT INSTEAD
solid hinge
tell me a single ju-88 player aims.
jovial forge
Scrubs always go for the percieved ez cheese
solid hinge
I ONLY USE THE STUKA FOR ANTI VEHICLE
solid hinge
NOW I CAN'T AIM
jovial forge
More food for my Fighters
shut cipher
are you allowed to send xboxdvr links here
solid hinge
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH STUKAS
dusky saffron
solid hinge
ill kill you all
shut cipher
ok
solid hinge
Good luck AA tanking a stuka
shut cipher
you guys want to see the worst bfv clip ever
jovial forge
Not really
solid hinge
apart from you can't AIM THE BOMB
solid hinge
FUCK
dusky saffron
yeet-iat
shut cipher
I was trying to get like a 200m snipe with no zeroing distance on my sniper and I don't know how bullet drop works because I don't do long range sniping since I mostly play TDM
jovial forge
I've only destroyed 1 plane with the piat and it was unintentional
shut cipher
lee enfield
solid hinge
shut cipher
i will just send the clip in #streams-and-videos 
solid hinge
yes I would like to see
spark quarry
havnt played for 2 month
echo jasper
dont bother
jovial forge
Was using its mortar function and hit a low flying bomber
solid hinge
Did it die??
jovial forge
Guessing it was already on fire when it was trying to get a last ditch payload out
I ended it
shut cipher
ok it's in #streams-and-videos
jovial forge
Lee Enfield was nerfed at its sole role?
jovial forge
The hell is this
Nerfed recon weapons is an incredibly dumb thing to do if its true
jovial forge
Good
solid hinge
The scope gets in the way
dense bone
any comments on update so far?
dusky saffron
It's lit
solid hinge
This is what I've heard at least
stone brook
it's poop
dusky saffron
only issues are the medic bugs and killcam
stone brook
more bugs yay
solid hinge
Krag 1 shot left reload is sick
worn juniper
the new killcam suchs as fukk man
dense bone
what are medic and killcam bugs?
jovial forge
Return of the revenge inducing kill cam is a bummer
dense bone
if killcam doesnt work, we are back to default... which isnt a problem
worn juniper
if i killed anyone, they come fast way to me and kill me back cause of killcam
stone brook
killcam takes like 6 seconds before it allows you to start bleeding out
dense bone
dont camp
dusky saffron
killcam isn't 6 seconds
worn juniper
tactical / smart play useless
dusky saffron
it's like 4
dense bone
stayin in a general enough area that they come back 10 seconds later and find you
dusky saffron
actually
solid hinge
you can't respawn that quick off a killcam
jovial forge
I prefer the old camp where it just points you in the direction of the one that killed you
shut cipher
@solid hinge i've no idea what strip reload is
stone brook
only if you're getting revived
dusky saffron
your timer doesn't start until you zoom back in
stone brook
which doesn't happen
dusky saffron
no
shut cipher
but I hate the 3x
dusky saffron
you can get off cam revived without the timer starting
stone brook
you aren't understanding
regal sapphire
So is the update shit?
stone brook
a longer killcam means more time before i can bleed out, which means more time until i can respawn
dusky saffron
bleedout held time decreases respawn time
stone brook
you can't start bleed out until the killcam thing stops
solid hinge
@shut cipher when you reload 5 bullets at a time, you shove them all in at once in a strip instead of thumbing them individually
dusky saffron
if you legit holdout all of revive
stone brook
YOU CANNOT START BLEEDING OUT UNTIL THE NEW KILL CAM STOPS
THAT WAS NOT IN THE GAME BEFORE
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
jovial forge
Caps
noble current
just finished a domination game with a draw.
solid hinge
why do hardcore bros always insult people and then start shouting
stone brook
no one revives in pubs
jovial forge
That's not hardcore Ayla
stone brook
No, that's fact
stone brook
yea big yikes
solid hinge
the cooler they are the less cool they are
dense bone
would recommend calming down @stone brook
stone brook
"lul you have longer time to get revived now!"
dusky saffron
I agree it's annoying but you do have benefits
full nimbus
stone brook
so when I wipe your whole squad you're fine with it taking 5+ seconds longer to respawn?
worn juniper
they make a hardcore mode bring back
stone brook
it's a good thing amirite
dusky saffron
didn't I just say it's annoying?
shut cipher
@solid hinge ok. not a big deal to me anyway with a 10 round sniper
stone brook
it's not 'annoying' it's broken
solid hinge
thumbing in ten rounds at once is annoying!
dusky saffron
yikes
stone brook
it's a new and worse thing that exists that did not exist yesterday
shut cipher
not really
main meteor
omg. how did they make the kill cam worse? wtf
jovial forge
Its personal preference
solid hinge
stone brook
"lul it's good guys!"
solid hinge
he didn't say it's good though
dusky saffron
I didn't
main meteor
god dammit. and now the stupid bleed out thing is broken
dusky saffron
but people like to make shit up so it's fine ig
solid hinge
you said he said it's good
dusky saffron
jovial forge
I was fine with the old way
shut cipher
I usually reload after a kill. usually only takes me like 2-3 bullets. I'm good at sniping in close to medium range, but well you saw that long range clip. I got no clue how the bullet drop works
dense bone
lame its longer, sounds good that it gives more info
full nimbus
@stone brook People have different opinions and perspectives
stone brook
"yea it's broken but i'm a corporate shill so I'll say it has 'benefits' lols"
noble current
the domination timer is 20 min now? so basically every single round ends in a draw. 
stone brook
No one. That's your problem.
dusky saffron
it has technical benefits
solid hinge
If you hold shoot after you fire a bolt action, you can stay zoomed and see where the bullet lands @shut cipher
full nimbus
Gentlemen, CONSTRUCTIVE criticism ONLY!
minor gale
guys keep it civil
dusky saffron
but it has more negatives
l m a o
stone brook
I guess being able to no longer Thank You! while being revived is also good?
dusky saffron
Idk
dense bone
unless youre shit talking dice, bfv, or ea all the time, youll be called a shill at some point...
minor gale
stone brook
Frontlines being 8v8? Fine.
dusky saffron
being called names is funny
stone brook
Medics can't see how long until you bleed out? Also fine.
tawny hamlet
any news on the combined arms stuff yet
stone brook
Thanks Dice!
solid hinge
he'd be good friends with the dude from yesterday
dense bone
loenzo?
dusky saffron
He would lmao
jovial forge
Who
shut cipher
ok, useful tip but like I said I don't usually need to compensate for bullet drop in tdm
regal sapphire
Did the SMG buffs get into this patch?
dusky saffron
Assumptions and insults and nothing else
main meteor
so revive is now broken?
jovial forge
Oh nvm
dusky saffron
ye
shut cipher
I would use zeroing distance but the bayonet is cheese
dusky saffron
it's kinda broke for medics
main meteor
dammit
solid hinge
@shut cipher yeah that's fair! I just thought that might help in the future
dusky saffron
can't see how long people have left to live
dense bone
JUST medics?
solid hinge
The bayonet is definitely better
dusky saffron
yuh
stone brook
you really use the bayonet? lol
regal sapphire
That's the Dice quality we all know and love
autumn nest
Let's just say medic isn't the best class to play
jovial forge
I do with my m97
solid hinge
And the lee is the best close range bolter
regal sapphire
remove one bug, put in 5 more
dense bone
granted they added stuff
dusky saffron
@solid hinge I went full in on speccing the 1907 to get the bayonet
now my set is complete
dusky saffron
Bayonet users ww@
dense bone
did anyone get CC reimbursed?
main meteor
they still didn't even fix chat on the console version either
dusky saffron
@dense bone was there supposed to be?
dense bone
at some point
dusky saffron
mm
I don't recall getting retro
apparently they're fixing it tomorrow so let's see how it goes
dense bone
why tomorrow and not today?
dusky saffron
shrug
shut cipher
I don't get the specs. why does it let you reset for free
dusky saffron
big patch today
dense bone
whatever, not a problem
dense bone
i wonder how much ill get retro
solid hinge
Why wouldn't you be allowed to reset?
shut cipher
well i don't get why it's free every time
dense bone
i wonder if its gonna be SPM and hours played AFTER 50 attributed to their formula for CC gain
solid hinge
If I had to pay to reset I'd go mad
shut cipher
I don't have a problem with it it just doesn't make any sense
it's like I'm missing something
solid hinge
You already upgraded it though
@tame quarry despacito
Why would you have to pay any more
You paid for each level
dusky saffron
exactly
shut cipher
not on the lee enfield
dusky saffron
and it's atrociously expensive to fully spec
dense bone
is it inf resets?
dusky saffron
shut cipher
it's already maxed
stone brook
tfw when never stopped earning CC after hitting 50 
dense bone
ive only reset 1 gun once
bitter imp
Infinite respecs.
dense bone
sweet
solid hinge
Yeah you've leveled it to level 4 so why would you have to pay for a reset
dusky saffron
costs 2k+ to even fully spec
shut cipher
that's how most games are
jovial forge
Resets cost something now?
bitter imp
No
dusky saffron
"that's how most games are"
solid hinge
most games give me money to actually upgrade things
dense bone
yea only games that charge for respec are mmos really
bitter imp
^^
dusky saffron
games that give me money to buy things let me keep those things lmao
dense bone
idk any shooters with a system like this
shut cipher
I did not ask for them to charge for resets I just asked why there isn't because it seems out of the ordinary
so far I've only used the lee enfield and the sten and I didn't notice it even costed anything to spec
so I was thinking that was free and resets would cost
solid hinge
They're the basic guns they come with default specs
shut cipher
I know
solid hinge
For new guns you have to buy the specs
shut cipher
I didn't know the sten was though
stray isle
HOLY FOOT STEPS! the foot steps are noise level i insane.
shut cipher
speaking of sten I can't believe people don't like it
@stray isle that's a good thing. play bo4. the sound is garbage
stray isle
it seems even worse than in bf1
dusky saffron
It's nice hearing people but
was playing narvik on D point
and uh
people above me on the structure sounded right next to me
shut cipher
narvik
stone brook
@shut cipher sten is a worse MP40
dense bone
make sure you use the right headphone settings, i dont have problems
shut cipher
@stone brook you said that already
dusky saffron
I think I do but it's like
stone brook
no I didn't
shut cipher
in tdm the sten is godlike
stone brook
I've never typed that in here
regal sapphire
Sten is a way better Mp40
dusky saffron
it's really loud
regal sapphire
I can't stand the MP40
stray isle
i heard footsteps just fine before. with this new level it seems a bit much. i mean i will never want to run ever again...
dusky saffron
Sten is a better mp40
stone brook
Sten is inferior to the MP40 in everyway
shut cipher
and the mp40 is nothing to the sten
dusky saffron
MP40 is only better in hipfire
stone brook
MP40 has better range
shut cipher
the best medic guns are easily the sten, thompson and mp34
dusky saffron
practically
jovial rock
The MP40 is better IMO
dusky saffron
and suomi if you're into that shit
solid hinge
@dense bone they upgraded the footsteps this patch
shut cipher
suomi is honestly a meme cannon
shut cipher
it's the liberator of smgs if I can be so bold to say so
it's good but it's situational
stray isle
i do not call it an up grade i call it a bone for the noobs or players who have little situational awarenes.
dusky saffron
M1907 is the suomi for assaults
stone brook
The MP40 has less vertical and horizontal recoil
dusky saffron
change my mind
stone brook
than the sten
solid hinge
Crouching got quieter and running got louder
shut cipher
@stray isle what gun?
shut cipher
oh
dusky saffron
Well footsteps were reportedly broken
stray isle
its like fire you weapon when you are running
shut cipher
I've barely had issues with footsteps in this
solid hinge
Suomi got buffed this patch
dusky saffron
they made running and walking louder and more adherent to what they stood on
while making proning and crouching quieter
stone brook
"STEN: Genuinely just a bad MP 40 with better velocity"
dense bone
i do think footsteps before were a LITTLE quiet
solid hinge
Prepare for the suomi love
dusky saffron
stop with the suomi
stray isle
iam not saying it is an issue but just way to noisy
echo jasper
i really cant
shut cipher
guys tractor in battlefield
main meteor
i know @echo jasper its horrible
final quarry
q
shut cipher
I hate the deathcam idea as a recon player but I haven't seen it yet
stray isle
it sounds like everyone is running in tap dancing shoes it is so loud.
echo jasper
its shit
shut cipher
I'm at school
main meteor
its really shit
dusky saffron
it's pretty meh currently
final quarry
let`s go play bf 1!
shut cipher
probably is
dense bone
yea, 8 hours till i play..
dusky saffron
they could've not done tracking
shut cipher
i hate bf1
final quarry
ok
dusky saffron
and instead just bullet trail points
shut cipher
luckily I bought it when it was 90% off
echo jasper
Hey, if you really enjoy dying then this patch is for you :D
shut cipher
i got it for $7
final quarry
luckily I bought it when it was 90% off - me too
stray isle
any word on a fix for the frontline 16/16 bug ?
shut cipher
I couldn't imagine spending full price on bf1
final quarry
but on PC
shut cipher
I played that game for like a few hours and never again
final quarry
2-3$
dense bone
its incredible everyone just wants shorter death timers, and less info. not saying its wrong, but no one wants more info?
shut cipher
that's probably USD @final quarry
I'm not american
otherwise it would be even less
final quarry
me to
dusky saffron
@solid hinge holy fuck, I remembered what game did killcam the best
shut cipher
but it's not like you're better than be for spending $4 less
dusky saffron
farcry 3
shut cipher
you can find $4 on the street
solid hinge
Never played it!
echo jasper
@dense bone Sure, but whats the point of me first being forced to watch 5-7 sec the guy that killed me + then also getting the normal respawn time
final quarry
@shut cipher +
stray isle
any word on a fix for the frontline 16/16 bug ?
dusky saffron
No
stone brook
probably in a couple months @stray isle
shut cipher
wait you have to watch a 7 second kill cam and then have like a 5 second bleedout timer
so it's like 15 seconds between respawns
dense bone
@echo jasper i havent seen the system, so i dont know any numbers or how it works, imo you should have respawn time built in with killcam, maybe thats their intention but its broken atm?
dusky saffron
something like that yuh
shut cipher
wow
echo jasper
You see @dense bone you can still be revived by a medic under and still be forced to see it all.
stray isle
they really should have waited to release this game.
dense bone
nah game is fine
shut cipher
what a joke
dusky saffron
death cam is like 4 seconds though
stray isle
having this many issue will really hurt its life.
dusky saffron
and even then it's still too long
dense bone
these really are petty things people cry about
dusky saffron
yuh
dense bone
like, REALLY petty
dusky saffron
only real issue is the medic bug
stone brook
having a broken killcam is petty?
dusky saffron
because seeing full circles everywhere is hyper obnoxious
dense bone
its not broken, its long
stone brook
you realize you have to watch the killcam even if you are revived during it right?
dusky saffron
no you don't
marble phoenix
yea if it yea the kill cam is fine
dusky saffron
lmao
marble phoenix
just takes a sec
dusky saffron
if you get revived you skip it
stone brook
it still plays
marble phoenix
it would be dope if the respawn time went down during that time too
echo jasper
@dusky saffron well then that shit i mega broken for me
dense bone
so maybe bugged for some
echo jasper
if you get to skip it
stone brook
frontlines being 8v8 - petty
dusky saffron
and someones reviving when the game is strill trying to figure out where the fuck are you
yeah I got to skip it
dense bone
its petty
dense bone
its not like there are several other game modes to play
stone brook
Give me more Dice!
stone brook
Please, right in my mouth Dice!
dusky saffron
dense bone
these are all annoyances
and if they SERIOUSLY bother you, you are sensitive as fuck and i feel bad for you
dusky saffron
oof'd
stone brook
Yea not being able to respawn if you die and fall into water - an annoyance
Just exit the server duh
So petty
solid hinge
that's not what you mentioned before
dense bone
how often do people fall into water after a death?
dusky saffron
^ ^
regal sapphire
God how is DICE so incompetent..
dense bone
this is my first time even hearing that, so gotta be rare
echo jasper
Another fun thing with the new deathcam :) if the person you got killed from dies you watch nothing. the camera stares into nothing
stone brook
High chance of it happening anytime you're near water
Almost certain to happen at least once a match to someone on Twisted Steel
echo jasper
Perfect info (y)
dense bone
apparently i never die near water
dusky saffron
I'm trying to think of other maps other than narvik that have water
stone brook
Twisted Steel?
dusky saffron
ah
dense bone
twisted is like 30% water
dusky saffron
rotterdam
stone brook
Rotterdam
dusky saffron
that's a good example but it's like being knifed
dense bone
never had that bug happen to me
dusky saffron
being knifed gets you a fat 13 second respawn
dense bone
🤷
solid hinge
Never happened to me either
solid hinge
fuck the melee respawn
stone brook
No need to worry about it Dice
dusky saffron
@solid hinge but I like the melee respawn :<
dense bone
i dont have CC, its annoying, thats it
solid hinge
that's literally not what any of us are saying
dusky saffron
allows me to punish people
solid hinge
you are very annoying