If you want to have an actual discussion then point out the core of my argument not the definition of one word
#battlefield-legacy-titles
brisk elbow
midnight nimbus
T A C T I C A L
dense bone
welp. still defiined as tactical
brisk elbow
Your such a child
dense bone
vague or not, still defines it
midnight nimbus
revive animation makes helping teammates less appealing
dense bone
so it should be 100% positive?
your teammate got downed
what do you want? a free revive?
sacred junco
its probably detaching combat prowess away from your physical capacity as a player?
brisk elbow
That’s exactly what he wants
midnight nimbus
teammates and teamplay should always be helpful
dense bone
IT IS
brisk elbow
He wants to game to be easier for him
jovial forge
it is tho
midnight nimbus
lol
body blocking
griefing
vehicle steal
"teamplay in BF is always helpful"
dense bone
those are players messing with you
jovial forge
Thats been in battlefield since the dawn of time tho
dense bone
not dices fault
midnight nimbus
teammates shouldn't be able to negatively impact you
solid hinge
The game is not hard at all. Just take the assault or the support and you will have an easy time.
brisk elbow
If you don’t want to lose your vehicle then don’t get out.
dense bone
yea you can do better
midnight nimbus
body blocking is absurd and still in the series for some reason
jovial forge
so you want to run through teammates?
brisk elbow
Bruh I can’t talk to people the only have complaints for a game lol don’t play if it’s the worst game in the world to you fr it’s obnoxious
stuck plaza
UnrEAlIsTic
midnight nimbus
gotta get through a door to escape an explosion? too bad, blueberry is there
jovial forge
well then thats just misfortune
midnight nimbus
the fact that an existence of a teammate makes you worse off than the lack of a teammate is just bad
dense bone
that shit happens often, you know what i do? call my teammate an idiot and keep playing...
jovial forge
Battlefield has always been a game where death comes in a 1000 ways
dense bone
alright kht, go play 1 v 32 by what you just said youll be in a better spot to win
dense bone
but the other team is pure killers?
midnight nimbus
actually, NPCs would be better
bc at least in BF2, they could toss you ammo reliably
sacred junco
think kht basically wants to detach windowdresing of teamwork out of BF games
and add as much self-sufficiency as possible
dense bone
last i recall your stats werent even impressive, but then you blamed it on not owning the game and playing off friends account
both scenarios make me question why you are hating so much
onyx blade
@wary mason source lol https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/144885731129556992/534404841271984140
azure vault
ooo this discussion again
midnight nimbus
i got the game for free, i just play BF4/1
solid hinge
So hyped for firestorm
dense bone
you said "for free" was you playing on friends account
midnight nimbus
i hop in every once in awhile
azure vault
so hyped for combined ops
midnight nimbus
nah, i own my own copy now
strong matrix
what are we arguing about i wanna join
bitter ivy
Everyone excited for Battle Tractor Farming Simulator 2019 V?
dense bone
thats what you said when you linked your account
azure vault
*arms
jovial forge
wary mason
midnight nimbus
BFV is still kinda fun for domination and breakthrough
solid hinge
Imagine with 4 people standing on the tractor
sacred junco
"teamplay mechanics are just annoyances and don't add anything" basically
jovial forge
The tractor is BFV's version of BF3's skidloader
midnight nimbus
nah, teamplay mechanics aren't gud enough
dense bone
they are more important than the other bf titles you are playing....
sacred junco
teamplay in BF in the end is still just allowing others to help you kill better
strong matrix
hm i dont know
onyx blade
@wary mason quite tricky to find, it's not under "Announcements" sub-category, and you would need to choose one sub-category then go back to "Battlefield V" to find it... 🤔
strong matrix
i feel bf4 tactis are more important
wary mason
¯_(ツ)_/¯
strong parrot
Less teamplay with the t48 pls
wary mason
not my problem honestly
dense bone
we arent arguing tactics, just teamplay in bfv
sacred junco
and very little else. Its not a tacticool shooter and elements of those gmaes are still kinda of a windowdressing to a very arcadey game
strong parrot
Driver shoots too when 
strong matrix
if somebody is god at heli,jet its not easy to take him down solo
dense bone
which is more reliant than previous games
strong matrix
but if you have like 2-3 mates that know what are they doing its something else
dense bone
thats every game, especially in a pub setting
gloomy cargo
I’m doubting the fact that they are gonna add new fronts, or even new maps.😞
sacred junco
well kinda unpopular
midnight nimbus
more reliant != better
azure vault
they literally always add new maps
dense bone
better is objective
brisk elbow
There is no argument that can counter if you find a squad you can talk to a 4 stack you are going to perform better than being solo. So team play is in a fine stand imo. Rainbow six is one of the most team oriented games ever made, and if there’s trolls they can just shoot you in the head. Trolling is present in video games get used to it
sacred junco
but I think 4 squad kinda makes spawn waves less insane than BF1
gloomy cargo
@azure vault no way
sacred junco
was annoying to see 10 people pop out of nowhere constantly in caps
solid hinge
Gayporn field V
strong matrix
nah im talking that
midnight nimbus
squad comps are too inflexible, attrition boxes make some too unnecessary
azure vault
YES way
dense bone
fake news
strong matrix
in bf4 you have more tools and with good mates you can beat great players
azure vault
32
sacred junco
I mostly just wish
midnight nimbus
like without ammo 2.0, the best way to AT is still assault -> dump your explosive payload -> redeploy until tanks are dead
solid hinge
That's not a lot of
gloomy cargo
@azure vault no no no, they’ll probably import bf1 maps at best
sacred junco
that a squadleader gets a spawn beacon by default or something
azure vault
thats how many its always been
solid hinge
Same as battlefield
azure vault
since forever
azure vault
i dont recall a 64 player rush, but im getting old
sacred junco
@midnight nimbus well there are lot of moments where it is better to just dump and die in BF
midnight nimbus
for awhile in BF1 CTE, support + 2 assaults > 3 assaults
midnight nimbus
or in BF4, recon + engineer > 2 engis
steel verge
guys which one did the most damage ? the panzerfaust of the PIAT ?
steep radish
was that a maus in the trailer
steel verge
*or i mean
steep radish
Panzerfraust did more damage
steel verge
ah i see
brisk elbow
And has a bigger splash damage
If you’ve never used to piat something you’ll notice first is it has insane drop off too
steel verge
yeah i noticed that
and i kinda hate it soo i ended up sticking with the panzerfaust
azure vault
PIAT still hits like a brick though
regal sapphire
Panzerfaust is useless now
brisk elbow
But I’ve gotten quad kills and multi kills with it against infantry in a group hiding in one of the hallways on Rotterdam
I LOVE the piat but panzerfaust against tanks there’s no comparison
steel verge
@regal sapphire why
midnight nimbus
you can use the PIAT as a mortar
regal sapphire
It's getting nerfed again, and even against tanks the PIAT is better
midnight nimbus
which is nice if there are actual scouts spotting on your team
azure vault
its a pain in the ass to do tho
steep radish
son when are we getting another faction?
brisk elbow
Since when Coutin? The panzerfaust does more damage to vehicles across the board?
dense bone
never
azure vault
it doesnt fire at 45 degrees, its more like 20
so you hit basically anything in front of you
bitter oracle
and the game crashed
brisk elbow
Lmao
bitter oracle
how in the world I'ma suppose to fix this crash?
dense bone
validate
azure vault
..it took me a long time to love the PIAT
dense bone
redownload
bitter oracle
I love it too
brisk elbow
Restart your computer or client meth
bitter oracle
@dense bone I verified the files and its ok
brisk elbow
Agreed
dense bone
redownload if you can
bitter oracle
perhaps it's mechanical HDD, the 1 TB 860 EVO arrives in two days or less.
steep radish
No
dense bone
sometimes fixes stuff for me
brisk elbow
I’m glad they’re fixing super bullets
dense bone
unless hdd is going bad that wouldnt be it
dense bone
TTD
soft storm
one shot kill bullets due to TTD issues
brisk elbow
Meth it might be your hard drive but but it wouldn’t be just the facts it’s a HDD id just be a faulty drive
bitter oracle
yeah, I suspected that, so i ordered a Samsung EVO 860
steel verge
@brisk elbow k so PIAT is good for infantries and panzerfaust is good against vehicles
dense bone
when you die instantly from something that takes 3-6 bullets to kill
steel verge
thx guys
steep radish
I hope they add another bazooka
stone brook
azure vault
PIAT is probably comparable to the panzer post-patch
brisk elbow
You know when you get in a fair fight then your just dead out of no where? Super bullet
dense bone
idk the last time i died to super bullets
steep radish
@brisk elbow that sounds like cancer
brisk elbow
Mine was last night from a mile away STEN
dense bone
i doubt it happens as often as people think
brisk elbow
Tapped me like 2 times it felt like at 100 HP and DEAD
soft storm
Piat is now more versatile as a launcher, it can be a mortar, anti infantry and anti vehicle now
steep radish
Epic
brisk elbow
that’s true it’s there but even I know I use it as an excuse sometimes Nyphon
azure vault
which is the best way to use it
soft storm
If you get over the learning curve of it but other than that it’s amaze
steep radish
I’ll probably buy the game when its on sale
dense bone
super bullets mostly come from bad internet, from one person or another
soft storm
So you don’t even own the game
azure vault
also, protip, when destroying a building, hitting the roof also knocks down a wall section
brisk elbow
I gtg get ready for school, fun chatting with you lads 🖖
steep radish
I play it with my cousin
soft storm
Ooh
steep radish
He owns it not me
azure vault
so fucking the roof up is the best way to level cover
dense bone
bfv has been on sale @steep radish
dense bone
eh
steep radish
Also with the amount of backlash the game got I just wasnt interested anymore
I was gonna buy it but I pooped out
soft storm
The backlash was the half and halfers
dense bone
the backlash is overblown, redditors and memekids latching on to anything
dense bone
it is right
soft storm
Reddit blows shit out of proportion all the time, they tried to crucify Ninja for a joke
steep radish
Im not saying thats not true but
soft storm
twice
azure vault
the backlash over the wOmeN iN cOmBaT?
soft storm
I shit you not, I got featured in a Forbes article for stating the goddamn truth in a Reddit post
dense bone
they are being dramatic as fuck
steep radish
I mean to be fair
dense bone
the game has a few problems, a couple of major ones, but the major problems seem rare
steep radish
Ea and soderlund did disrespect their player base
soft storm
The BFV subreddit is pretty fine, some more nit pickers here and there, but otherwise very good
dense bone
but its one of my favorite bf's
steep radish
which made things worse
dense bone
but he didnt
steep radish
Hm?
dense bone
he disrespected VERY specific people
azure vault
it'll be a weird day when i take personal offense to something a video game company does that doesn't really affect my life
regal sapphire
Do we have any promotional art that features the Luftfaust?
dense bone
its common that people try to take a statement and apply it to worse case scenario
azure vault
we need a new plague
soft storm
I mean, if he had called out, straight, white males who are between the ages of 18-21 I might be a bit offended
dense bone
people tried to make it sound like soderland said "gamers are uneducated, dont buyt the game"
not what he said at all
soft storm
But he didn’t
Now if he had said “Lawrence is uneducated and I hate him” I’d be like “hey wtf”
dense bone
no he didnt
soft storm
He called the shitty subset community uneducated, which he shouldn’t of because gamers love to blow that up to it being everyone
wind pendant
lol as if gender and race wouldnt blow up without gamers
dense bone
"These are people who are uneducated — they don’t understand that this is a plausible scenario, and listen: this is a game"
hes saying "these people" are the ones that complained about women and prosthetics, NOT ALL GAMERS COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT.
soft storm
Now activision? No they’re completely fine with calling their customers stupid.
wind pendant
i remember the days when religion and violence in video games would trigger gamers
sacred junco
I too remember Bobby Kotick
soft storm
hehe gamers rise up
jovial forge
It was foolish to say anything
soft storm
Take that VANESSA
dense bone
but he only attacked a very specific group of gamers, not all gamers
but people spun it like that
because gamers are a special bunch
sad but true
soft storm
LET ME SEE THE KIDS VANESSA IM NOT UNEDUCATED
desert dune
All right let’s keep this #battlefield-legacy-titles themed please
steep radish
Post right here
wind pendant
but it is battlefield themed xD
dense bone
this is bf themed...
steep radish
”These are people who are uneducated — they don’t understand that this is a plausible scenario, and listen: this is a game,”
wind pendant
battlefield dev amirite?
steep radish
“Accept it or dont buy the game”
dense bone
both truth
steep radish
Pretty much insulting the main base of people who gave them flak and know history
dense bone
no hes not
soft storm
The main playerbase doesn’t know their history wdym
dense bone
^
soft storm
They use Wikipedia
soft storm
I actually own the books and take the classes right now
dense bone
they complained about the posthetic and the nydar sight, when both are time accurate...
dense bone
no they werent
soft storm
Literally, go on Reddit and any comment will link to the wiki page.
steep radish
1980-1990’s
dense bone
but they existed
soft storm
When it should link to forgotten weapons, or the tank encyclopedia
soft storm
Or, actual historical documents
steep radish
Open up ANY documentary
dense bone
see you know that, but literally people made it sound like dice made it up to put it in game
it existed
its real
steep radish
And tell me how many scopes you see on small arms
dense bone
but people gave them shit
azure vault
when did medical technology advance to a point where syringes fixed bullet wounds
dense bone
thats who soderland is talking about
azure vault
oh, they added that because of playability concerns, since its a fucking video game?
gotcha
soft storm
Heck, even mentioning a tv show or movie that was based in accuracy like Band of Brothers or The Pacific is better than referencing just Wikipedia
zinc valley
When’s the next tides of war
soft storm
16th
steep radish
Ye
carmine mason
15 jsn
soft storm
Update tomorrow
zinc valley
It’s literally my only inspirational inspo to play
steep radish
I watched the entire documentary in color
steep radish
Nothing else I can find 
strong parrot
1919 from band of Brothers when
dense bone
most bf drama is petty people latching onto bs and making it a problem
jovial forge
^
steep radish
I mean to be fair
little fjord
^
sonic rampart
@dusky saffron boiii im ready for that new content
steep radish
You cant just say most of the BF community doesnt know their history
soft storm
What is it, some guy is posting proof of a cheater every day on the subreddit right now until it’s brought up by a dev
sonic rampart
Whats wrong?
soft storm
Like, what are you expecting.
sonic rampart
Just joined in lol
steep radish
We dont know that and some of them especially had family members during WW2
dense bone
dont like dont buy is something we say ALL THE TIME, but when he says it people get mad?
sonic rampart
Its the truth tho
azure vault
i had an uncle who was in vietnam, therefore i know quite a bit about the local geopolitics
sonic rampart
Dont like it dont buy it
steep radish
Imagine seeing a game y’know just “spitting”, in their perspective
sonic rampart
You dont have to buy it
steep radish
In the face
soft storm
So... Call of Duty?
dense bone
like i said, bf drama is from petty, self entitled, self worth sad people.
carmine mason
does anybody know if you are still able to get some of the skins and stuff from the previouse tides of war chalanges and stuf?
dense bone
if i had some
jovial forge
Considering the position soderlund stood in, it was dumb for him to say it, but it was the truth
soft storm
I don’t think you’ll be able to unlock the old stuff like cosmetics
dense bone
@jovial forge 100%
azure vault
i liked that he said it, them brass balls tho
dense bone
^
soft storm
”I’m right why are you booing me.”
sonic rampart
He was like
carmine mason
oof, really wanted the helmet from the first week q.q
Thx @soft storm
steep radish
At least call of duty showed SOMETHING with its 8 hour campaign and kept that part realistic. Them for knowing how much of a shit show multiplayer is, THEN they add the ridiculous shit
dense bone
i hate this "Cater to the consumer" culture, put them in their place sometime, bunch of babies at this point
soft storm
They might reintroduce it for CC or Boins
steep radish
@dense bone Probably because they keep being fucked over by companies
such as EA themselves
soft storm
Because the average gamer is a baby wdym
dense bone
@steep radish if you keep geting fucked over by campanies thats YOUR FAULT
soft storm
I can’t even do my own laundry lololol
jovial forge
Trying to appease the stock holders is a thing to.
soft storm
I still suck my thumb
steep radish
But then again
azure vault
ya. anytime the pasty, emasculated horde of gAmeR CuLtUrE has an autistic shitfit over some benign horseshit, i get a little turned on
keep it coming
carmine mason
ok.................
dense bone
i dont buy any game at launch except from reputable devs/pubs, and i havent been fucked up at all
because im not stupid
steep radish
You have to remember Soderlund not only insulted ‘part’ of a player base but EA pretty much said dont like it dont buy it
dense bone
thats the only way to get fucked over, being stupid
steep radish
Now I know if you don’t like something
dense bone
YOU buy the product
steep radish
Just dont buy it
upbeat oriole
@steep radish hehe
steep radish
And I didnt
azure vault
so what if soderland was mean, tell you parents about it over dinner
carmine mason
well if you played the beta, then you can try it and see if you like it.....
steep radish
And instead i play it with my cousin s
steep radish
@upbeat oriole yes?
dense bone
^
restive talon
cmon dice
azure vault
grow the fuck up
restive talon
why not keep rush as an alltime mode
dense bone
"he told me to not buy his game that i was angry about"
soft storm
VANESSA TAKE THE KIDS IM GONNA GO HAM ON SOME ENEMY GAMERS
azure vault
lmao
dense bone
"why would i buy it if i didnt want to, but im mad he told me not to anyway"
jovial cargo
@restive talon I think they said if it is popular it will stick around
carmine mason
probably cause rush will die out in favour of grand operations
jovial forge
Can't stand the way Grand ops plays out. win 2, lose the third thus losing it all. WTF
jovial cargo
I think Rush and Breakthrough fulfill similar purposes so I'm not sure why both would exist
carmine mason
yeah, the grand operations are kinda dissapointing imo
little fjord
I bet they'll make tweaks to go
azure vault
capping points in breakthrough doesn't have the same fun factor as bombing an MCOM station
dense bone
and when did shit AROUND a game matter? i thought it was about the game?
steep radish
I mean
azure vault
"to be fair"
little fjord
I like go as an idea but there is something missing for clear goals/strategy across the 3/4 day campaign
steep radish
Look at the transition from WW2 games back then and now
azure vault
to be fair + silly, illogical bullshit != a valid point
maiden steppe
art style and overall immersion factor are still something that your typical gamer values, as an entertainment multiplier for gameplay
it's not enough to just have good gameplay anymore
steep radish
How is it logical bullshit
azure vault
because its based in emasculation and low self-esteem
dense bone
unless a pub or dev are doing something morally wrong, then ill let that factor a buy
steep radish
Im just trying to make a valid point
azure vault
and is therefore illogical bullshit
maiden steppe
idk what's going on here lol i just walked in
dense bone
if a dev says "nyphon is a cuck" im still buying the game IF I LIKE IT
idc what they say
steep radish
Yep since Im making a point based on low self esteem Ill say this
WW2 games back then did the same shit DICE is doing at this point
carmine mason
@maiden steppe peeeps are still bitching abolut the pre release drama it seems
steep radish
But they did untold stories
dense bone
yep
steep radish
“better”
maiden steppe
yeah why wouldn't they lmao
azure vault
bear witness to the video game archivist
maiden steppe
it played a huge role in killing BFV faster than usual
steep radish
And seeing as the transition from actually showing history in a ficitional matter
they used these places to their advantage
To make a proper WW2 game time and time again
maiden steppe
it isn't that fucking hard to figure out what people want a WW2 shooter to look like lol
steep radish
Look at the transition between back then and now
dense bone
maybe they didnt want to make the same game again? maybe as a dev this is what they wanted to make? JUST BECAUSE?
steep radish
And tell me again how people think its a “bad experience”
carmine mason
btw, does anybody know if there also will be new singleplayer campaings coming along with the rest of the life service?
dense bone
it sounds like people just want a bf 1942 remake
azure vault
why isnt this shit permadeath
steep radish
Hell this has less maps than COD WaW or even its main current fucking competition
little fjord
If someone wants a super historical accurate war simulator I don't think battlefields were ever that (back through bfbc2 anyway)
azure vault
if we're being anal about setting validity
steep radish
Which is so far doing better than BFV right now
dense bone
@little fjord exactly
lapis hare
unlikely there will be more SP content added @carmine mason
steep radish
@carmine mason They said no more SP content
carmine mason
oof, that's a shame
maiden steppe
battlefield was never a milsim but it did fulfill the need for a hollywood-style war game
little fjord
Honestly I think it is all overreaction to the bfv cartoony release trailer... which was shit for sure... but bfv doesn't resemble that trailer imho
azure vault
is that a PROSTHESIS
steep radish
How is it we transition from back then to now where its just
dense bone
i want the prosthetic as a rare cosmetic
steep radish
Now we have to wait for his dipshit waiting system of getting more content
azure vault
is that a WOMAN wearing a PROSTHESIS
soft storm
VANESSA THEY HAVE A WOMAN WITH A ROBOT ARM IN MY WW2 GAME
maiden steppe
this game woulda looked better with the art style and atmosphere of Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, or Hacksaw Ridge
carmine mason
funny how peeps stil bitch about the prosthesis but it actualy isn't in the game
dense bone
^
maiden steppe
in fact I'm 99% sure that's what people expected
soft storm
exactly lol
soft storm
if it was single player thing it’d be alright, about as expectable as the BC sp
little fjord
If hook arm is 30k cc that's fine with me... I don't care whether you could actually use a cricket bat with a hook or not
dense bone
i like when people say dice doesnt listen, but we dont have prosthetic/other cosmetics, we have the ttk people want, and other stuf..
steep radish
I could find a shit ton more things to bring up other than a woman with a prothesis in a trailer
maiden steppe
EA figured out that the marketing was a bad idea so ever since before release, they've tried to replicate the look and feel of BF1 marketing
azure vault
yeah but dude there's still women running around my battlefield
dense bone
@steep radish we are getting content for free...
steep radish
@dense bone They literally cut content
dense bone
firestorm is cut?
maiden steppe
but first impressions matter. it's understandable that people still think prosthetic arms and ballistic masks exist
dense bone
we had a bf br before?
azure vault
it is deeply offensive if i get shot by someone who doesn't have a cock
steep radish
Rush
dense bone
why didnt anyone tell me?
steep radish
Its just
dense bone
i want bf br, and its been there
steep radish
lack of shit to do compared to other WW2 games out there
dense bone
rush was always the first mode to die off
soft storm
Why isn’t that person white and why ont they have a penis?
carmine mason
same
steep radish
rising storm
azure vault
post scriptum
steep radish
red orchestra
soft storm
I was just so triggered when I saw a man not using the standard British uniform in the trailer. I almost died.
soft storm
they’re all indie basically
dense bone
#doubt
azure vault
they're mostly non arcade-style indie spinoffs
steep radish
But whatever I guess
soft storm
no where near the budget as EA
carmine mason
@soft storm well, i wouldn't mind if they just put some actual, historicly acurate, uniforms in there. the current ones are kinda shitty.
steep radish
“No where near the budget of EA”
But manages to produce less content than the broken launch that was BF4
dense bone
those games have infantry, land, and air battles?
steep radish
Yea
azure vault
how do you count content
steep radish
Some of them are really grounded
dense bone
which ones?
steep radish
I believe uh
regal sapphire
Heroes and generals has the 3
steep radish
Red Orchestra and Rising storm does only land battles
To be fair heroes and generals is a grindfest
regal sapphire
Warthunder has the 3
carmine mason
no, warthunder doesn't have infantry
soft storm
Let’s see, unreal engine, unreal engine, source engine, unreal engine
steep radish
But so is fucking BFV with its Battlefront Credit System
azure vault
none of the games you mentioned has "more content" than BF5 at launch
regal sapphire
Tanks
soft storm
How easy is it to model and make stuff in unreal and source?
steep radish
At launch
carmine mason
tanks aint infantry @regal sapphire
regal sapphire
It's ground combat
dense bone
i meain, it doesnt look like they have more content
steep radish
No you’re right fellas
dense bone
i said infantry, ground, and air
steep radish
It doesnt have infantry
azure vault
not in terms of game modes, weapon types, vehicle types, cosmetcs
dense bone
so heroes and generals is the only one?
azure vault
etc
steep radish
But it does have sea, helicopters, planes, and tanks
azure vault
and if you wanna talk about maps, BF5 launched with 8 colossal maps
steep radish
And with that MUCH more customizable shit and upgrades to unlock for each one
dense bone
heroes and generals have class systems, customization, destruction, building and massive maps that support 64 players?
soft storm
Heroes and generals has fallen off a lot tho right
azure vault
which, compared to any one of the games you mentioned, adjusting for map size
has more
reef solstice
Just watched westies bfv vid
carmine mason
i'm wondering if there will be a naval DLC for BF V..... i hoped we would see some naval combat at the Narvik map at launch
soft storm
People got tired of the devs shit
steep radish
@dense bone Red Orchestra and Rising storm has that
steep radish
Except the destruction part
dense bone
but they dont have infantry, land, and air vehicles
reef solstice
Or new maps
little fjord
Ww2 naval content would be badass
steep radish
Well kinda since most maps I play on are worn down
soft storm
Now, red orchestra and rising storm are both what I deem the pinnacle of WW2 gameplay in terms of realism
little fjord
How about like boarding and invading a German sub/battleship
steep radish
Nyphone you’ve NEVRR heard of these games
little fjord
Sounds cool to me
steep radish
Until now and you say it has less content
dense bone
you just said they dont have the same things as bf
and you are saying that have more
that doesnt add up
steep radish
Actually see these games for yourself first
steep radish
Dont make an assumption based on thoughts
carmine mason
dont think that will happen @little fjord maps are way to little for that
dense bone
your thoughts?
i literally asked you the questions
from your answers they dont compare
steep radish
You’re outright ignoring how much content these games have compared to BFV
little fjord
Or a shipyard
dense bone
i just asked...
azure vault
they have less
steep radish
What question?
dense bone
and not one has all the things bf does
steep radish
What infantry?
soft storm
You’re ignoring the fact that they are on much easier engines to model and work with
dense bone
the closest one seems to be heroes and generals
azure vault
and RO2 has tiny maps, relatively speaking
steep radish
Dude
dense bone
one game does not have all the aspects bfv has
sacred junco
it has large maps just not very popular
steep radish
I mostly play on the small maps in the game
sacred junco
and it has some questionable maps
minor jacinth
so
sacred junco
like Grain Elevator and Apartments
minor jacinth
what kind of weapon is the ZK-383
dense bone
it seems heroes and generals is the only one that has infantry, land and air vehicles. but it doesnt have destruction, large maps,
steep radish
They’re in the game but fuckin i guess its not as populat
@dense bone It does have large maps
sacred junco
Druzhina 24/7
steep radish
again
sacred junco
destruction isn't a necessary feature still
steep radish
Who gives a shit doesnt need destruction Like BFV to be a good game
carmine mason
@minor jacinth a SMG of tjecho-slovakia
low quail
i'm missing WW2, D-Day, Stalingrad
dense bone
it doesnt, but its parts that other games dont have
midnight nimbus
d e s t r u c t i o n
minor jacinth
I nust saw the ZK has a max range of 250 m
steep radish
Yeah
minor jacinth
in RL
dense bone
whats heros and generals allowed players?
proven smelt
Hey guys can i ask you a question on battlefield 5?
carmine mason
what is actually the whole point of this discussion anyway?
dense bone
google says 40 people
azure vault
content of WW2 shooters
dense bone
18v18 actually
azure vault
did BF5 have more or less content at launch than other games
proven smelt
Can you still get the weapons and outfit with company coin even after the challenge is over?
dense bone
so yea, still seems like bfv has more stuff
toxic axle
They're only 2 cosmetic set add?
dense bone
does heroes and generals have single player?
azure vault
fake news, those are crisis actors
steep radish
Buy your weapons which each one of them has something to upgrade such as sights bullets mags, barrel etc the ability to buy other soldiers and customize them. You can even customize your weapons and shit this is with all the factions in game Russia, Germany, and America. It also lets you have the ability to buy a thing which lets you become a tanker a paratrooper or other shit
dense bone
quick google says heros and generals doesnt have SP
steep radish
What?
sacred junco
its a f2p shooter mang
steep radish
**Lmao what?
sacred junco
ofcourse it don't have sp
carmine mason
f2p? not p2w?
midnight nimbus
who needs SP
dense bone
idc about sp at all, but its content
which you said bfv is lacking
but im not seeing anything touching it
steep radish
Lets ignore how shitty these war stories were btw one of the reasons being so damn short
azure vault
gets into content discussion
suddenly doesnt care about content during the content discussion
dense bone
^
carmine mason
i do like the last tiger SP campaign
midnight nimbus
last tiger is the best part of SP
steep radish
I literally just posted a whole text about what heroes and generals have
steep radish
such as?
dense bone
so therefore bfv has more content
steep radish
Dude
carmine mason
or both
azure vault
when in doubt, deny all terms and definitions
midnight nimbus
oh i didn't actually read the convo
steep radish
Christ
strong parrot
Smoke and artillery barrage call ins? 
midnight nimbus
smoke and arty barrage call ins pls
dense bone
you seem to forget the facts and what you are arguing
which is a topic you brought up
strong parrot
Now I can harrass the enemy more with my points
carmine mason
@oblique parcel i dont think peeps would be able to make it as good as dice would tho
strong parrot
Have you seen what people do with mods?
sacred junco
now thats a nice thing to see
steep radish
Yea lets forget the fact about how fucking shitty the war stories are. They were short, lacking in actual content themselves. Like maybe one or two good stories in the long run but this time I believe its less than BF1’s
solid hinge
Imagine having to turn for 180° to attack
This post was made by the STUG IV gang
sacred junco
smoke barrage
strong parrot
Don't say they can't do as good of a job 
dense bone
most of what you are saying is wrong
steep radish
Might as well not add it because it will hinder the experience of said game
solid hinge
If they made The Last Tiger one big story
solid hinge
It would be amazing
midnight nimbus
does shitty content bring value in a discussion about content though
steep radish
Nyphon most of the things you’re saying is based on assumptions
dense bone
adding MORE optional content can DEGRADE a game?
midnight nimbus
game bloat
midnight nimbus
people complained about it in BF4 already
dense bone
doesnt even have SP
steep radish
I forgot
dense bone
and then you say SP doesnt count
steep radish
Some of them have been CUT from the game
dense bone
logic
steep radish
and repacked later
dense bone
for free
little fjord
I'm glad they focus resources on multiplayer... I sure as he'll didn't spend 900 hours on bf4 single player
dense bone
boo hoo
proven smelt
Is anyone going to answer my question?
steep radish
logic
doesnt even look into the games I mentioned
dense bone
i asked you questions about them
steep radish
I LITERALLY
dense bone
googled the only one that seemed comparable
steep radish
Hold on ffs
dense bone
and its not
steep radish
Buy your weapons which each one of them has something to upgrade such as sights bullets mags, barrel etc the ability to buy other soldiers and customize them. You can even customize your weapons and shit this is with all the factions in game Russia, Germany, and America. It also lets you have the ability to buy a thing which lets you become a tanker a paratrooper or other shit
dense bone
yea read that, thats nothing to make your argument valid
steep radish
Its a cannon so Im guessing so
little fjord
Probably not... unless you just hate the normal cannon
steep radish
@dense bone fucking what
strong parrot
Girls please.... stop arguing
little fjord
steep radish
Im literally giving you something you asked for
dense bone
and the only thing bfv is missing from that list is faction cosmetics
steep radish
Which was “what the game had” but then it doesnt make my argument valid?
Alright then
Next game then
dense bone
its invalid because bfv has them
steep radish
War Thunder
dense bone
see, and you have to piece games together to negate bfv
proven smelt
I just asking if i miss the challenge in tide of war can i still get it with company coin
dense bone
yea, 5 separate games should have more stuff than bfv
little fjord
I don't know the full stats but it appears the crossover specs for the flakpanzer and the British aa are not as good as the other faction's default gun
strong parrot
@proven smelt you can buy the guns after that week is done
proven smelt
What about outfit like theg helmets for example?
strong parrot
I imagine you could purchase that too
dense bone
heroes and generals AND war thunder vs bfv... thatll show him bfv lacks content
strong parrot
Never noticed if anyone said it was for purchase but I'd think it is
little fjord
Supposed to be available with cc "soon"
steep radish
Can play with planes, boats, tanks, and helicopters both set in Ww1 ww2 and the cold war era in which all of these tanks you can buy upgrades for and customize to your liking with about
proven smelt
Ok thanks i ask DannyonPc about the outfit
dense bone
no infantry
dense bone
so takes 2 games to show bfv has no content?
damn bfv, you weak
does war thunder have SP?
steep radish
So it takes more than a synapse to realize the games Im listing has more content?
dense bone
GAMES VS GAME
slate zephyr
Was that a tank hunter plane i saw in the Trailer for lighting strike
steep radish
that you put you in these scenarios
steep radish
Of what happened during he war no bullshit about a teenage mother or daughter blowing something up
dense bone
#stillcontent
steep radish
And nyphon you can see it HOWEVER you delusionally want
Look at these games individually against BFV
Itll still have more content
steep radish
Both WW2
they dont compare
dense bone
are they gonna have BR?
sacred junco
apples and oragnes
steep radish
Oh yea sorry forgot how their EA and DEVS insulted a part of the playerbase
sacred junco
War Thunder isn't better or worse because it added ATGMs and Helis
slate zephyr
What plane was that in the new bfv trailer
sacred junco
just like BF1 isn't better because it has 20+ maps now
little zenith
Woooooooooah
dense bone
they did insult a part, the stupid part
rustic pike
is anyone else afraid dice might stop adding new content after firestorm and focus on a new bf altogether?
dense bone
good for them
slate zephyr
Was it a tank hunter
little zenith
What about all the brave women that fought in the war? The cyborgs with cricket bats, and the asian nazis?
strong parrot
@sacred junco it's definitely worse with those now 
sacred junco
War thunder?
steep radish
Sexist smh
strong parrot
Yeah
sacred junco
Thought so
steep radish
What about it
sacred junco
ATGMs and Helis sound like a balance nightmare
little zenith
pls
sacred junco
and not a plus for those who like analog warfare
strong parrot
Pretty much lol... but it's more content right?!
cold trail
Hmm... no mention of ammo/health boxes fix for those falling through the map or the problematic placement of beacons as recon in the http://eaassets-a.akamaihd.net/dice-commerce/Casablanca/Update_Notes/20190115-01/Battlefield_V_Chapter_2_Lightning_Strikes_Update_14012019_FINAL.pdf
steep radish
And use it immediately but itll have regular missles that y’know miss alot
Except if you use it during the tank battles
and earn a good score
strong parrot
Bfv to wt is a retarded comparison anyways....there's fuck all for grind in bfv you just enjoy yourself...wt is all grind
steep radish
you get a helicopter with a tiny amount of auto locking missles
Except WT can be fun as well 
strong parrot
Sure if you play mid tier with everything already unlocked.. otherwise you're just grinding unlocks
soft storm
Nor any mention of a fix for the Blenheim Mk 1
steep radish
Its a fun game but its grindy as HELL
strong parrot
There's no fun of being power creeped by shit ass balance that doesn't get addressed for months
dense bone
medics are getting an MMG?
steep radish
I forgot lmao
gray glade
i reckon some of the mmg users might go back to the ke7 now
soft storm
No a new SMG
steep radish
Wait
gray glade
considering the bipod nerfs
steep radish
A new smg?
bitter imp
Yes
steep radish
THE ZK 383
dense bone
New Weapons
These are some of the weapons that will be obtainable through the Weekly Challenges in January and February:
Zk-383 SMG (Medic class)
Modele 1944 semi-automatic rifle (Assault class)
M1922 MMG (Support class)
m1922 MMG
whoops
nvm
dense bone
always read support and think medic
bitter imp
French Semi-Auto rifle
pliant geyser
mother of god I just made something called Crack Chicken its straight up addicting
steep radish
A semi auto
bitter imp
@sacred junco https://i.redd.it/52bvmjzqwea21.jpg It's the one at the bottom
soft storm
Is it just crack and chicken
steep radish
in you inhale both the chicken and crack
sacred junco
so its the MAS-44
wind pendant
what is modele 44s real life name?
toxic axle
Only 2 cosmetic coming from next 3 days?
dense bone
?
dense bone
firestorm lasts till march
bitter imp
Firestorm comes out in March
@toxic axle called the MAS-49, tho was called the MAS-38/39 in it's prototype form, and then became the MAS-40.
midnight nimbus
MAS-44 is new bae
strong parrot
Wait...one of those 3 guns is the 1922?
midnight nimbus
like probably the best semi
bitter imp
No, the M1922 wasn't shown in the trailer
strong parrot
Oh ok..was like that doesn't look like a mmg
bitter imp
Though the Recon's Ross rifle was, so that's probably coming out in Feb
strong parrot
Smg with bipod?
bitter imp
ZK-383
edgy jewel
does anyone want to 1v1 me in BF1?
strong parrot
Next thing you know they'll add a assault rifle with a bipod
dense bone
hard to tell
pliant geyser
what i wana know is whats up with the brick and mortars stuff
they gonna add a mortaR?
edgy jewel
does anyone want to 1v1 me in BF1? 😂
dense bone
i hated mortars
wary mason
My darling 🚜 look at it! 
strong parrot
Especially with the ability to follow the round
wary mason
so pretty!
soft storm
dahling
dense bone
people are saying we can ride the tractor
wary mason
you can
dense bone
fact?
dense bone
i thought people were meming
soft storm
No watch the trailer it starts up
toxic axle
Wish for bike.
soft storm
I would love a bike. Single person would be fun
soft storm
I might... most games I can’t because I’m not that good but I’m actually above average in BF
For some odd reason
midnight nimbus
ZK383 spec tree is absolutely unreal
soft storm
Wait is the spec tree out?
dense bone
i should start adding people for BR
midnight nimbus
files
soft storm
What’s your time zone?
pliant geyser
mortars coming kht120
soft storm
@midnight nimbus link?
pliant geyser
but it appears it comes with a whole new way to aim all indirect fire weapons
its not ready yet
midnight nimbus
soft storm
Thank you
wanton orbit
Anyone know what variant of the JU-88 is in the trailer?
soft storm
I think a new one
It appears the planes that didn’t come with a second variant will be receiving new ones
wanton orbit
Seems odd to add that but not it's mosquito equivalent - Mosquito FB Mk XVIII
soft storm
Dice only blanket stated that they’re adding new “tank hunter vehicles”
So the the mosquito and the JU 88 will be getting tank hunter variants it seems
soft storm
So each plane will have 2 variants
unborn blaze
Why aren't we getting a Hurricane MK IV
soft storm
IDK.
unborn blaze
That's what I wanna know
soft storm
Seems like dice is set in their ways with certain vehicles
exotic nebula
The M30 Drilling is OP in narvik
soft storm
I think it’s because it was overshadowed by the spitfire in the public’s eye
Especially after the Battle of Britain
Love to see it though, I’m not against each faction having 4 planes
It would give them an excuse to add in the B17 for the Americans
While also allowing them the B-25 Mitchell
dense bone
as a non history buff, that seems like a lot
especially a lot of work, so idk if dice would do that
soft storm
I’m not too cultured in military hardware
But I do know what makes a game fun and stuff like a b-17 would be insane
Heck, make it the squad vehicle call in for the Americans on pacific maps if they must
tame warren
heard tractors coming to battlefield 5 yes?
solid hinge
To be honest the death from above achievement is hard is there a plane I can use to get it faster?
pliant geyser
artillery strike is coming as a squad reinforcement
hopefully its just a small barrage of like 3 rounds
misty night
Tractor?
wind pendant
horses to bf5 when?
wind pendant
germans used horses more than vehicles
pliant geyser
yea
hes not wrong though
ww2 Germany was not that mechanized
They used pack animals to transport alot of equipment.
pliant geyser
Yea when the Americans came they must have been amazed at how motorized we were.
sacred junco
weren't the Sovs more mobilized by the mid war?
pliant geyser
The German military employed over 3 MILLION pack animals, most of which were horses during their invasion of the USSR.
That was largely due to land lease wang.
Soviets were just as ass backwards as the Germans when it came to having a modern military
steep radish
Lets invade a land for oil that’ll go well
solid hinge
what are the exact words used by German squad when calling reinforcements?
can't find translation anywhere
pliant geyser
hope we get that one day, it was the most used German ww2 infantry support gun
it provided infantry bunker busting support at close to medium range and was operated by infantry
solid hinge
how would this differ from pak @pliant geyser
meager jetty
guys what sensitivity you use for medium scopes?
solid hinge
ingame
carmine eagle
Use anti-repair tool
pliant geyser
the 7.5 cm was a HE lobbing slow velocity howitzer hybrid
carmine eagle
The pak anti bullshit gun gives you an edge in any firefight
pliant geyser
The 7.5 could be used as a direct fire weapon or indirect fire weapon to lob 12 lb HE rounds on target.
use a system like this to be aimed
used in many many many games
solid hinge
name one game