battlefield-legacy-titles

[green elm]

say sorry

[mystic wolf]

bored

S O R R Y

[steep radish]

yeah

[mystic wolf]

hurl hortlor

[steep radish]

British soldier takes aim

[solid hinge]

imagine what happened if they killed hitler

[steep radish]

Couldve killed him right there

[mystic wolf]

i dunno

[amber notch]

@steep radish

[mystic wolf]

maybe shit wouldnt have been so different

[amber notch]

there you go

proof

[solid hinge]

LOL

[mystic wolf]

this is some great man of history shit

[green elm]

what the fuck

[steep radish]

@amber notch lol

[solid hinge]

TRANS

@wary mason

[mystic wolf]

who dat

[steep radish]

all the evidence right there

[mystic wolf]

cool

[steep radish]

boom

[mystic wolf]

more trans gamers plz

[steep radish]

exposed

[amber notch]

here we go

[solid hinge]

HAHAHHAHAHA

[amber notch]

lemme just bounce realllllll quick

[steep radish]

welp gn

[solid hinge]

Do you guys go to school or have a job?

lol

[steep radish]

i have school off

[green elm]

bf players don’t work

[steep radish]

Due to snow

[mystic wolf]

no im literally dead

i dont do anything

[solid hinge]

nice I am off as well

[amber notch]

@steep radish back to RAAF tomorrow

[solid hinge]

you life in germany right? @steep radish

[steep radish]

@amber notch whats RAAF

[amber notch]

so Idle pow all day

[steep radish]

@solid hinge murica

[solid hinge]

nice

[mystic wolf]

royal ass assassinators funky

[amber notch]

Royal aus airfroce

[green elm]

who isn’t murica nowadays

[steep radish]

Wait

[dusky saffron]

victory royale

[steep radish]

Australian air force?

[mystic wolf]

murca bad

[amber notch]

Mhmm

[mystic wolf]

yeah we weaponised magpies

[steep radish]

Australia doesnt exist

[amber notch]

anyway, im going back to my show

[dusky saffron]

[steep radish]

Hell how coukd they be living upside DOWN

Silly aussies

[solid hinge]

I only have 3 days school in a week 😉

[green elm]

michael are u french

[solid hinge]

nope haha

[mystic wolf]

we realised if you dangle a chip infront of a flock of seagulls tied together with elastic bands, you can put a guy with a rifle on it and it'll just keep going, boom, airforce

[green elm]

do french have 3 days of school week

[solid hinge]

I dont know lol

[steep radish]

but srs good luck badmin

welp gn

[mystic wolf]

why would you be in the military smdh

[solid hinge]

being in the military is nice @amber notch

[mystic wolf]

i heard the austalian army has an extremely racist culture

which isnt that surprisingly really

coz BROS WITH GUNS

broing it up

edgelords n shit

[solid hinge]

I started shooting with real guns when I was 12

on the shooting range

[mystic wolf]

pow pow

[pliant geyser]

anyone else been looking at hell let loose's gameplay

looks pretty good

[mystic wolf]

no but iam interested

[amber notch]

@steep radish

[mystic wolf]

because post scriptum was post scrotum

[pliant geyser]

its still pretty early and the worst part imo is the sounds.

[amber notch]

I leave now

[solid hinge]

I wonder which direction hell let loose go tho?

[amber notch]

[solid hinge]

More tactical

[green elm]

jess can be a dude name

[solid hinge]

or more battlefield stylish

[pliant geyser]

its less tactical than post scriptum

[mystic wolf]

does anyone even play post scriptum anymore

[pliant geyser]

closer to battlefield than squad or post scriptim

[solid hinge]

if its like battlefield

[mystic wolf]

i thought it was gonna be like squad, but ww2

[solid hinge]

Ok maybe i give it a shot if it is like battlefield

[mystic wolf]

instead it was like drinking shit

[pliant geyser]

gameplay makes it appear way closer to Battlefield and closer even still to red ochestra 2.

[dusky saffron]

hmm

so I read something pretty interesting

"Fun Fact: In ww2, medics usually only had carbines or pistols. Because previous treaties only allowed them personal defense weapons, as they weren't allowed to be in direct combat."

[pliant geyser]

its main game mode looks really unique

[dusky saffron]

guess it's why medics use smgs

[pliant geyser]

yea medics should have only a pistol

if it was 100 percent accurate

[green elm]

pdw ftw

[mystic wolf]

mp40 is a pistol
a MASCHINENpistole

[dusky saffron]

other smgs

[mystic wolf]

smgs are just superpistols

[dusky saffron]

yikes

[mystic wolf]

machine guns are just superrifles

grenades are just splodey rocks

[wary mason]

@amber notch

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

HAHAHAHA

ok

[green elm]

hahaha nice name

[solid hinge]

thanks 😄

I am gonna sit behind my computer until the trailer drops lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFpHm8kfVa4&list=RDgFpHm8kfVa4&start_radio=1

such a good theme song

[dusky saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqGjnljiq7s

better battlefield theme

I mean it wasn't made by the devs but it's still lit

[solid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFoZjhJEQbI&list=RDgFpHm8kfVa4&index=13

[green elm]

bf4 theme metal remix

woah

[solid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XA0zlD8fOI

this one is really good

[marble phoenix]

The score in BFV ain’t bad at all

[solid hinge]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1084765507377643520

[proven pagoda]

@dusky saffron Who made BC1 theme?

[solid hinge]

guess thats a rip

[dusky saffron]

It's called "The Beast" by Milt Buckner @proven pagoda

[proven pagoda]

It

It's best viewed with the gameplay played in the background

[dusky saffron]

^

yes

[proven pagoda]

this is what you see if you were inactive on the main menu for about a minute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29FkSjYABIs

I miss Bad Company, 1 and 2 btoh

[dusky saffron]

mhm mhm

I miss this menu screen

BC1 was my first battlefield game

back in like

2012

[proven pagoda]

the grenade launcher in Bad company 1 was a primary weapon

it had serious "oomf" that later games failed to replicate

[dusky saffron]

I remember multi

[upbeat oriole]

any new title suggestions for my upcoming upload - Endings of last tiger?

[dusky saffron]

I only remember hating the healing system

[proven pagoda]

I played BC1 in its hayday

before BC2 released

[dusky saffron]

mm mm

[proven pagoda]

Back in 08

hard to believe that was a decade ago

[dusky saffron]

ye I played BC when I was like

starting middle school

[proven pagoda]

Yeah I was 11 lol

That makes you appreciate it more though

[dusky saffron]

mhm

[proven pagoda]

It's almost impossible to get hyped for games now

[dusky saffron]

mhm

honestly

[proven pagoda]

It was easy to just get pumped to play battlefield back then

[dusky saffron]

after the beta

bfv was my most hyped game

next to bannerlord

[proven pagoda]

BC3 will hopefully be just as good

[compact oxide]

@amber notch you best be online in 30 matey potatey

[proven pagoda]

They need to make it not take itself seriously

[rustic pike]

Dudes what scope do you prefer on the M1A1? I hate all of them except the reflex but it has a darker tint which makes targets harder to see

[dusky saffron]

I wiish they could get another partner dev

[compact oxide]

No scopes

[dusky saffron]

to make the BC series a thing

[compact oxide]

Irons all the way

[proven pagoda]

Visceral was a great company to have around

[rustic pike]

yeah might have to get used to the iron

[dusky saffron]

oh yeah they got shut down

[proven pagoda]

and they fucking killed them because Hardline didn't do great

[dusky saffron]

That and Dead space 3

right

[proven pagoda]

which wasn't visceral's fault at all

Hardline was fine IMO, just shouldn't have been Battlefield branded

[dusky saffron]

Hardline had a plethora of problems

though

which is why it wasn't popular

it's what started the trend to what we have now ig

[proven pagoda]

trend of what

[dusky saffron]

like the episodic campaign

[solid hinge]

DUMDUMDUMDUMDUMDUM

[proven pagoda]

I liked Hardline's campaign tbh

[solid hinge]

DUMDUMDUMDUMDUM

[dusky saffron]

Can you literally not

ty

[proven pagoda]

Alt

go watch the clip I sent earlier

and watch the grenade launcher

that thing is an underrated gem in gaming

[dusky saffron]

yep

[proven pagoda]

that grenade launcher is as iconic to BC1 to me as the energy sword is to halo

[dusky saffron]

to me it's the AEK

[solid hinge]

@dusky saffron F4

[dusky saffron]

@solid hinge you seriously need to chill

[solid hinge]

HAHAHAHA

They need to feed me ice 😦

otherwise im not chill

[dusky saffron]

BC1 was very unique in its startup

It was out during like

what, modern warfare 1?

It was lit

BC2 was better in gameplay but the story kinda shot for references

[proven pagoda]

idk BC2 was also great

but BC1 was something special

[dusky saffron]

oh no it was good and stuff but

[proven pagoda]

it was the only game not trying to take itself seriously at that time

[dusky saffron]

BC1 was the grandfather into something great

[proven pagoda]

like you said mw1 had just came out

which was a very serious game

[dusky saffron]

^

[proven pagoda]

halo 3 too

whereas BC1 is talking about truckasaurus rex and finding gold

[dusky saffron]

BF3 took a huge turn with its aesthetic

[proven pagoda]

ye bf3's pseudo realism is an acquired taste

[dusky saffron]

I mean

[proven pagoda]

well thats not true

[dusky saffron]

I don't enjoy milsim but I don't enjoy arcadey either

pseudo-realism is my fav kind of shooter

[solid hinge]

milsim is gay

[proven pagoda]

people love feeling like a game is "realistic" when its not

so thats very popular

[solid hinge]

airsoft is gay too

[proven pagoda]

but it's kinda run its course i think to some degree

[little juniper]

UNA CASETTA MEDICA *tosses pouch

[upbeat oriole]

guys

[proven pagoda]

we need another light hearted game

[solid hinge]

I rather prefer nerf guns instead of airsoft guns

[proven pagoda]

BC3 pls

[solid hinge]

more powerfull

[proven pagoda]

Do you think the BC3 rumors were true? @dusky saffron

[little juniper]

wats bc

[dusky saffron]

Bad company

[upbeat oriole]

any new title suggestions for the endings of last tiger for yt

[little juniper]

btw is BFv still like 1hit wonder?

[proven pagoda]

When BFV wasn't announced and they were saying "WW2 or BC3 is it"

and both had seriously good evidence

supporting that they were both true

yet here is BFV and we haven't heard anything on BC3

[little juniper]

i returned the game cause i'd just spend the whole watch in the fucking spawn queue

[solid hinge]

@proven pagoda well in the time before battlefield v we saw a guy and he said the next battlefield game is badcompany 3 it could be yes.... because something is coming in february as well and its not like battlefield v related

I think dice la is working on something

[dusky saffron]

I mean both have different directions in style and gameplay

[solid hinge]

but might get me wrong

[proven pagoda]

They wouldnt release 2 Battlefield games back to back

[solid hinge]

Here is my source:

[dusky saffron]

but with how they're going, they'll push for more pseudo-realism

[solid hinge]

They will if sales are bad

this is just speculation

I am not a leaker

[proven pagoda]

I hope BFV works

[dusky saffron]

I do too

It probably will

[proven pagoda]

because WW2 is great and it has a mountain of potential

but it needs more sales and they need to get to work fast on fixing it

the latter before the former

[dusky saffron]

I mean

did you hear

[solid hinge]

https://twitter.com/Indigowd/status/1084213033109356544?s=19

[dusky saffron]

It reached 14 mil physical copies

[solid hinge]

Read this tweet

[dusky saffron]

1 mil less then bf1

[solid hinge]

and it will make you hyped

[dusky saffron]

and that's just physical copies

even if bfv sold half as much

it would do fine to continue on development

[solid hinge]

remember ea had a plan if things went wrong for battlefield v

[proven pagoda]

I very much doubt BFV is actually about to outsell BF1

[solid hinge]

It still could be

[proven pagoda]

bF1 was hyped massively

[dusky saffron]

mhm

[proven pagoda]

remember the awesome trailers?

[dusky saffron]

and hyper casualized

[proven pagoda]

Idgaf tbh

BF1 was great

[dusky saffron]

I didn't enjoy it as much

[soft breach]

and bfv was the opposite

[dusky saffron]

I only liked the mechanics

[soft breach]

advertised poorly

[dusky saffron]

of certain things

[proven pagoda]

BF1's trailers were A+

[dusky saffron]

BFV's trailer was awful

and as soon as the pr team was foundout

[solid hinge]

but the game was dead after a yEAR

[soft breach]

i liked the war stories trailer

but thats all

[dusky saffron]

bam

fired

lmao

[solid hinge]

its just a bad marketing

[proven pagoda]

I still get CHILLS watching the gamescom trailer

[dusky saffron]

Also Bf1 didn't last long

[solid hinge]

They didnt need to invite christopher noah

[dusky saffron]

especially with how late the dlc was

[solid hinge]

That guy didnt know anything about battlefield v

[bitter oracle]

is dice gonna do something regarding cheaters in tomorrow's update?

[proven pagoda]

with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwXbF1VTKU @dusky saffron

[dusky saffron]

None of the late night tv show hosts know anything

[soft breach]

but most people are complaining about the woman with iron arm, but that was an actuall thing in WW2

[solid hinge]

remember he said battlefield 1 had a co op mode

[dusky saffron]

only one that might have a clue

is jimmy fallon

[proven pagoda]

that was one of the best trailers

[soft breach]

battlefield v is more historically accurate than you think

[dusky saffron]

lemme see

V is pretty accurate

it's just playing with fiction as well

I'm glad for that

[proven pagoda]

in what way @soft breach

[solid hinge]

watch this video

[dusky saffron]

give history some creative function

[solid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc8udw9itBI

[dusky saffron]

@proven pagoda a lot of the outfits and items are historically accurate

even ratburner

[proven pagoda]

of course

dice are good at finding obscure things

[dusky saffron]

Also

[soft breach]

The events happening in game, rotterdam for example. And the iron arm

[dusky saffron]

that fucking trailer

is lit

[proven pagoda]

Rotterdam is not real @soft breach

as in

the british never defended rotterdam

[soft breach]

Bombers come in to bomb the city and 3 flares ar efired

[proven pagoda]

it was the dutch marines

[dusky saffron]

^

[soft breach]

are fired*

that happened

[dusky saffron]

brits were used for gameplay reasons ig

christ

[proven pagoda]

the arm is real for a disabled person back home

[dusky saffron]

the flame trooper is just

[proven pagoda]

not for using a gun lol

[dusky saffron]

please let me burn people

:c

[solid hinge]

lol are you guys stupid

[proven pagoda]

I know the brits are used for gameplay reasons

[dusky saffron]

that's all I ask for dice

[solid hinge]

I am dutch

[dusky saffron]

[proven pagoda]

they could have just not did Rotterdam until they could get some dutch VAss

[solid hinge]

The dutch people were fking pussies in ww2

[proven pagoda]

even if they still had british uniforms it would be better

[pliant geyser]

flamethrower should be a assault archetype that gives up at weapons for flamethrower

[dusky saffron]

nah

squad reinforcement

cause then we'd have flame units everywhere

[soft breach]

In the backround of Arras you can see large convoys with tanks driving in the horizon

[proven pagoda]

@solid hinge Your marines were not

[soft breach]

i really like those small details

[solid hinge]

true

[pliant geyser]

make them like real life alt.

[proven pagoda]

They talk about "untold stories" in BFV

[pliant geyser]

Short range

[proven pagoda]

but they just tell blatant lies

instead

[solid hinge]

But like a feel like The Netherlands are only good at sea

[pliant geyser]

Flame troopers should be useless 99 percent of the time since its super short range, no explosives and vulnerable backside

[dusky saffron]

I'd prefer being a powerhouse at the cost of resources

not nerfing something down to make it gameplay "capable"

[pliant geyser]

powerhouse how ?

[proven pagoda]

People don't like superweapons Alt

[dusky saffron]

Flame unit in bf1 shot fucking far

Ik but

[pliant geyser]

nerfing ? how flame throwers were pretty useless in real life

[opaque cipher]

Bet they’re actually maps cut but were in development in BF1 @proven pagoda

[dusky saffron]

it's a reinforcement

it's like someone in a crocodile

[proven pagoda]

@opaque cipher wym

[dusky saffron]

or sturmtiger

[opaque cipher]

The maps

[proven pagoda]

what about them

[dusky saffron]

@pliant geyser You could change things for gameplay reasons

[pliant geyser]

crocodile and strumtiger are vehicles that can change the tide of the battle.

[dusky saffron]

why do you think our weapons don't jam

[opaque cipher]

Someone said some were maps that got cut in development

[pliant geyser]

a single flamethrower would do nothing most of the time

unless in the right place

[opaque cipher]

Seems logical because of how bad some of them are

[proven pagoda]

what are you referencing

[dusky saffron]

or that a rifle bullet from a shotgun can one-hit unlike others

[proven pagoda]

you mean in dev for bf1?

[opaque cipher]

And they get to reuse them for “untold stories”

[dusky saffron]

when is commando carbine coming to multi

[proven pagoda]

these maps are clearly made for bfv tho

[opaque cipher]

I mean Arras seems pretty BF1 to me

[upbeat oriole]

Hello can anyone help me

[proven pagoda]

I don't think so

[upbeat oriole]

?

[proven pagoda]

also

BF1 and BFV are 20 years apart

[dusky saffron]

@upbeat oriole you have to give it somewhat of your own thoughts my dude

[proven pagoda]

the maps are going to look similar

[dusky saffron]

didn't you just ask for a previous title?

[upbeat oriole]

yeah

not about the title

[dusky saffron]

[proven pagoda]

alt I've decided shotguns are good currently

[dusky saffron]

yes

[proven pagoda]

and you're not allowed to nerf them

[dusky saffron]

thank you

shotguns are good

[pliant geyser]

i think BF5 is also going to have that portable last ditch flamethrower Germany made

[opaque cipher]

Buff M1897 tbh

[dusky saffron]

it's just that people don't know what range dropoff is

[pliant geyser]

it had like 2 second burst

[dusky saffron]

also

[proven pagoda]

1897 only needs to be able to shoot quicker after reloads

[dusky saffron]

have you seen my melee compilations @proven pagoda

[proven pagoda]

the delay needs to be much smaller

[dusky saffron]

[proven pagoda]

no i haven't

do you want me to make shotgun comps

to ruin your days

[dusky saffron]

I already made them

wink

https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/177094649473794049/534162646119743489

take a gander

more if you scroll down

[opaque cipher]

Yeah it’s suppose to be the middle ground between the 12g and the Drilling

[dusky saffron]

I checked recently and I'm top .1% in dogtag steals

[opaque cipher]

But it’s not quite there

[proven pagoda]

why do your melee animations look super sped up

[dusky saffron]

because BFV sped them up

[chilly thunder]

hey guys just got origin premier and played this game

im addicted its great

[dusky saffron]

^

good for you fren

patch coming soon

[solid hinge]

But guys

[chilly thunder]

what patch?

[proven pagoda]

the auto 5 can shoot during reloads

so should the 1897

[solid hinge]

Is firestorm only going to be squads

?

[proven pagoda]

you're way too vulnerable during them

[dusky saffron]

stuff for bug fixes and upcoming stuff

[pliant geyser]

should be solo too

[chilly thunder]

oh nice nice

[dusky saffron]

mhm

[chilly thunder]

ive had some problems when i unlock a new gun

[dusky saffron]

more weapons are coming up this chapter

[chilly thunder]

that it says the server doesnt allow the gun when i attach a 3x scope

but after the round ends

it lets me use it

other than that its fine so far

[dusky saffron]

yeah its a server-sided thing

[opaque cipher]

I’m keen to see how they pull off the fucking Darne

[chilly thunder]

oh i see

[dusky saffron]

most of the bugs should sort themselves out

[opaque cipher]

The thing we have one schematic and no picture of

[solid hinge]

16 squads of 4

[dusky saffron]

but assignments and a few other things are wonky

[chilly thunder]

i see i see

[solid hinge]

I need to make a squad I guess...

[chilly thunder]

i love the assault and the medic class

[dusky saffron]

have fun tho

[chilly thunder]

thanks!

[solid hinge]

I hope its free

[chilly thunder]

im taking a short break taking a look at the better guns to use

[solid hinge]

Otherwise gonna search for people in this discord

[dusky saffron]

for Assault

I recommend Turner and STG

for medic, Sten and Mp34

[solid hinge]

Who plays battlefield on ps4 here btw?

[chilly thunder]

oh okay see ive been using the gewehr 43

i jsut got the STG but hardly used it

[dusky saffron]

G43 is good but I think the Turner is better

;>

[chilly thunder]

ill give it another go it looks great

ill try it!

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

All pc gamers probably

[dusky saffron]

Nah there are some ps4 players here

[solid hinge]

Oh nice

[dusky saffron]

like Ayla

the weeb

[proven pagoda]

not recommending Suomi

[dusky saffron]

Suomi is a meme

[chilly thunder]

LOL

[dusky saffron]

but it's a good meme I suppose

[solid hinge]

I played battlefield v on my gaming laptop but i felt like it was too bad for it...

[dusky saffron]

never aim down with it though

[chilly thunder]

is that the one that uses 20 bullets in 0.01s

[dusky saffron]

ye

[opaque cipher]

MP34 all the way

[chilly thunder]

hahahha

[opaque cipher]

[dusky saffron]

you could get an extended mag for 50 bullets

[solid hinge]

@dusky saffron did you play the bfv alpha? :)

[chilly thunder]

i picked it up once

[dusky saffron]

@opaque cipher you know it

@solid hinge sadly no

[chilly thunder]

it was fun but before i knew it

[dusky saffron]

but I saw the stuff there

[chilly thunder]

the ammo was gone

[solid hinge]

Awhhhh

[amber notch]

https://tenor.com/view/twd-the-walking-dead-walking-dead-amc-negan-gif-9935787

[dusky saffron]

henlo pow

[amber notch]

@dusky saffron Its Dad

Thank you

[dusky saffron]

bih

[amber notch]

[dusky saffron]

[opaque cipher]

I booted up BF4

[solid hinge]

NOOO NOT JOHN WICK

FK FORTNITE

[opaque cipher]

First game back 49/16

[solid hinge]

Plsss my eyes

[opaque cipher]

Feels good

[dusky saffron]

gj

I wish BF4 was remade to have the updated engine and mechanics of bf1/v

Like wall climbing

[chilly thunder]

the planes are fun but so hard

[dusky saffron]

and and

sliding

[solid hinge]

I was in de first and second alpha but it was with a lot of bugs lol

[dusky saffron]

yeah I bet

[opaque cipher]

Sliding with BF4 shotguns

[dusky saffron]

I should be sleeping since I have an eye exam in like 4 hours

[solid hinge]

😂

[opaque cipher]

My flechette M1014 hungers

[dusky saffron]

stop

flechette not allowed

[solid hinge]

Play with the qbb fellas

[pliant geyser]

I really want a Combat role for Support that only has a pistol and gadgets but instead gets a choice of buildable HMGS, AA guns, AT guns or Howitzers.

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

Qbb is op

[opaque cipher]

You cannot stop the one shots

[dusky saffron]

You cut that out

yeah this emoji is yikes

[opaque cipher]

Flechette is king

[amber notch]

@dusky saffron delete that

[dusky saffron]

I was about

to

[amber notch]

thanks

[sleek tartan]

Why

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

[opaque cipher]

[solid hinge]

FUCKING GAY FORTNITE

[opaque cipher]

Wall climbing tho

[dusky saffron]

BF1

was the dark souls 2

[solid hinge]

I HOPE THE GAME DIES ONE TIME

[dusky saffron]

of Battlefield

[opaque cipher]

Goating in Lockers just got so much easier

Imagine it

[dusky saffron]

can you not imagine it pls

[opaque cipher]

Fucking spider men populates the snow

[dusky saffron]

pls stop

[opaque cipher]

[dusky saffron]

nah but

bf1 had a lot of good mechanics to give

and a lot of bad mecahnics

so basically ds2

[opaque cipher]

Honestly walls in BF4 were a big deal for real

You had to rocket or C4 it

[dusky saffron]

mhm

[pliant geyser]

yea BF1 tried some things but most of what it added was bad.

[opaque cipher]

Otherwise it’s actually good cover

[dusky saffron]

@pliant geyser this

like they added

• a better mounting system

• no more counter frontal

• sliding

[opaque cipher]

BF1 onwards walls are just another type of paper thin destructible

[chilly thunder]

are there any stat track websites?

[dusky saffron]

• tanks were actually intricate

yeah

[charred heron]

See that mountain? You can climb it

[dusky saffron]

@chilly thunder https://battlefieldtracker.com

[opaque cipher]

BF4 tank combat 💦💦💦💦

[dusky saffron]

[chilly thunder]

thanks @dusky saffron !

[sleek tartan]

Bf4 tank combat sucked

[dusky saffron]

👌

What Horm said

It was just

[opaque cipher]

A matter of who is a better driver and good at timing

[dusky saffron]

active protection

the game

[chilly thunder]

i think the tanks are fine here but im not sure

[solid hinge]

I have the best map in mind for a battle royale map 1. Operation locker but than metro of Londen 2. Arras 3. Argonne forest 4. Monte grappa 5. Caspian border

There you have a br map

[opaque cipher]

Active protection is no match when I put two rounds into your ass

Shoot me back, you’ll die first anyways

[sleek tartan]

Rofl

Sure bro

You have magic ammo that doesn't die to active protection

[opaque cipher]

Reactive armor active protection

[chilly thunder]

it would be cool if tanks had a weakness and strength system with its armor

[opaque cipher]

[chilly thunder]

like world of tanks

but that would take so much effort

[opaque cipher]

You cannot disable my tank

It’s impervious

[sleek tartan]

I can easily C4 u

[chilly thunder]

maybe simply angling ur tank should make it more resistant to shells

[sleek tartan]

Git gud

😂

[pliant geyser]

armor system in bf 5 is too simple i like War thunders system

[opaque cipher]

The boost key actually existed back then

[dusky saffron]

I mean it's more complex than bf1

[chilly thunder]

it would take a lot more work than what its worth

to be honest

i love the tiger

[opaque cipher]

It’s hilarious seeing people drop onto me and spam C4

[chilly thunder]

its very intimidating

[opaque cipher]

And I just hit the boost

[dusky saffron]

the only issue if anything with bfv tank mechanics is the inside delay with aiming

[opaque cipher]

And zoom reticle being fucked

[dusky saffron]

yuh

[opaque cipher]

It would go black, zoom in and out all the time

Never again

[pliant geyser]

i want the tank combat to be to the point where a 37 mm gun wont do any damage to a tigers frontal armor

[dusky saffron]

and people jumping in and out

[pliant geyser]

only rear shots hurt

[dusky saffron]

of the fucking tank

LIKE GET YOUR ASS OUTTA MY FACE PLEASE

other than that it's lit

[opaque cipher]

Honestly I just want faster tanks

[pliant geyser]

naw tank speed is fine

[solid hinge]

My score in a minute was 1000 in battlefield 1

[opaque cipher]

This is why BF4 is my fav even with the reactive armor active protection spam

[pliant geyser]

they feel like slow heavy behemoths now give them armor and firepower to match that speed

[dusky saffron]

I mean

[opaque cipher]

You could drive circles around each other

And actually peak shot reliably

[dusky saffron]

the only buff that heavy tanks is

is more armor

since they get outmatched by medium tanks currently

[solid hinge]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/psn/FTSmichael/overview

[pliant geyser]

locational armor alt

[opaque cipher]

More armor, more reserves

Maybe faster turret turning

[dusky saffron]

and top gunners need

uh

[pliant geyser]

Frontal armor should absorb almost all damage from light tanks

[dusky saffron]

some sort of brace device

to resist explosive shots

[pliant geyser]

AA tanks should do zero damage to the frontal armor of a tiger

[dusky saffron]

AA tanks are scum

specifically flakpanzer

[pliant geyser]

aa should be anti infantry and anti air

[dusky saffron]

[pliant geyser]

aa should be vulnerable to all tanks

[dusky saffron]

though

[opaque cipher]

AA is anti infantry

[dusky saffron]

I feel so lit when I use the panzer 38t or the staghound

[pliant geyser]

yea as it should be ptar

[dusky saffron]

I just go vroom and nyoom

and kill things

[opaque cipher]

Unless you take the 3x 20mm on Valentine or the 40mm on Flak

Then it’s anti jack shit

Those things are so badly balanced

Siblings of the infamous 2x 37mm on the Stuka

[solid hinge]

GUUUUYS

Newwws

https://twitter.com/JaqubAjmal/status/1084773639172575233?s=19

[dusky saffron]

thank fuck

we're saved

[solid hinge]

👌

[dusky saffron]

@proven pagoda It's funny because the first thing I noticed in bfv is that the melee was incredibly sped up

makes me sad

[sleek tartan]

Tanks in BF4 were basically all advantages 0 compromise

so I hope we never ever see them again

and those people who used them often and only got good kd with them should question theirselves about life

[dusky saffron]

Vehicle play was a major issue in bf4

Like bf4 was really good but there were still issues

[tribal ledge]

Tanks in BF1 were too massively OP

[sleek tartan]

Like, there's few things in life worse than being a vehicle whore

[tribal ledge]

Artillery truck had disgusting accuracy

[proven pagoda]

tbh

[dusky saffron]

arty truck in bf1 is scum

[sleek tartan]

Did you even play bf4 to compare @tribal ledge ?

[proven pagoda]

vehicles are supposed to be powerful as fuck

[tribal ledge]

They would hide near spawn points and just murder people

[proven pagoda]

tanks should feel like tanks

[dusky saffron]

^

[proven pagoda]

BFV tanks feel like shit right now

[tribal ledge]

They aren't supposed to have sniper rifle accuracy

[dusky saffron]

I like how tanks are in bfv atm

except for the inner balancing

[sleek tartan]

Yeah, tanks also die to one RPG or ANTI tank missile in real life

so you want that too?

[proven pagoda]

Tanks suck in BFV rn

[dusky saffron]

no u

[tribal ledge]

Tanks shouldn't have infinite ammo

[proven pagoda]

I mean, no, that's not true @sleek tartan

[tribal ledge]

And infinite fuel

[sleek tartan]

yes, that is truew

[chilly thunder]

my god

13 hours played in 3 dayst

im addicted

[proven pagoda]

Even in WW2 without modern protection they could survive panzershreks/bazooka strikes

[sleek tartan]

sure, key word being could

[proven pagoda]

just depends on how good of a hit it was and what type of tank it wass

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most of the times one was enough to kill all the crew inside in a fire they couldnt escape

[proven pagoda]

thats uhh

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ONE

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not how that worked

at all

not evne

close

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okay

show me your sources 😄

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Sherman had less than 1 crew member killed per disabled tank

less than 1

[sleek tartan]

because they often got disabled in various maneouvres or situations that didnt imply getting shot

[proven pagoda]

including getting shot

[sleek tartan]

Shermans literally exploded in fire with tiger shots

[proven pagoda]

no

lol

nazi propaganda

[sleek tartan]

okay bro

whatever

[proven pagoda]

shermans had the lowest fire rates of any tank in the war

fact.

that shit is literally nazi propaganda you've grown up to believe

because the germans sided with the americans and british post war and not the russians

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You literally have no fucking idea of what my sources are or my knowledge, yet you refuse to give yours when asked and not even display facts

[worldly root]

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the 88m canon on a tank could literally make the Sherman blow up

[proven pagoda]

http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/2016/08/26/u-s-tank-losses-and-crew-casualties-in-world-war-ii/

[sleek tartan]

tiger canon*

[proven pagoda]

nazi

propo

ganda

[quasi mulch]

He's right though. The Sherman fire rate was low even before the water ammo mod

[proven pagoda]

https://i1.wp.com/www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Attrition-Fig.-50.png

[sleek tartan]

Where did I state the Sherman fire rate wasn't low?

im just saying that it literally exploded to the 88mm

and it did

[proven pagoda]

you're trying to say everyone dies as soon as a rocket hits the tank

[sleek tartan]

it doesnt change the fact that sure, many times not everyone died when one got disabled.

[solid hinge]

"unknown" - tank randomly explodes

[quasi mulch]

"literally exploded in fire with tiger shots"

[dusky saffron]

^

[sleek tartan]

@proven pagoda that's total bullshit

[proven pagoda]

I just showed a statistic that says on average 33% of the crew dies to a anti tank rocket attack

[sleek tartan]

I said that one was enough often to blow up the whole tank

[proven pagoda]

like a panzerfaust or shrek

[sleek tartan]

and it going into fire

[proven pagoda]

except it isn't

[sleek tartan]

which is totally true

[upbeat oriole]

fuck yt iam uploading 4k 60fps videos but it is showing 1440p 60fps

[proven pagoda]

they made direct designs to counter that from happening

the sherman almost never "blew up" on first contact

[sleek tartan]

The only realistic place a Sherman would survive a Panzerfaust is the front

[proven pagoda]

look up what wet ammo racks are and how they prevent fires and ammo cook offs

[quasi mulch]

The US army did a study of Sherman effectiveness against heavy German armor. Their conclusion was that in reality, whoever fired the first shot was more likely to win, even with the Sherman vs. tiger

[sleek tartan]

and with a PanzerShrekt it would blow up very likely

or get totally disabeld

[proven pagoda]

Hormigaz

literally just posted a graph

[dusky saffron]

Tigers took a hell of a beating though @quasi mulch

[proven pagoda]

showing that on average 33% of the crew dies in a rocket attack

that is nowhere near 100%

and thats if they get hit by the rocket

[quasi mulch]

Absolutely! @dusky saffron

[sleek tartan]

I am not fucking saying that everyone died every time

dude

you are getting annoying

I am saying that the tank went in fire

[proven pagoda]

except

it didnt

[sleek tartan]

you can fucking just leave the tank ebfore you die

[proven pagoda]

because they desgined the tank to not catch fire

the only thing in the tank that can catch fire is fuel and ammo

[sleek tartan]

The tank did catch fire everytime the engine area got a big hit

[proven pagoda]

fuel you can't stop, but that also doesn't get hit from the front

[dusky saffron]

@quasi mulch Honestly after playing bfv, I really want to drive a mini tank

:<

[quasi mulch]

Oh man, me too.

[sleek tartan]

every-single-time

[proven pagoda]

lol no

not even

find any statistic that says that the sherman caught fire everytime it was shot

[quasi mulch]

There's a working tiger in a British museum. I kinda wanna visit just to see it

[proven pagoda]

specifically in the engine if you must

[sleek tartan]

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-m-4-sherman-tank-was-hell-on-wheels-and-a-death-trap-502b0d99e744

google yourself for 5 minutes

[proven pagoda]

thats literally fake news lol

[sleek tartan]

and see how internet is full of references

to how the Sherman literally was a moving hell

[proven pagoda]

the deathtrap myth was propagated by one man

and he's been disproven over and over

[sleek tartan]

sure man

[proven pagoda]

the sherman was one of the safest tanks in the war to be in

far safer than the german tanks

[sleek tartan]

disproved over and over, source?

[quasi mulch]

Pun intended?

[upbeat oriole]

checkout my new upload guys - if you are free 1440p 60fps cinematic endings of the last tiger - #streams-and-videos

[proven pagoda]

I just provided you a source

but sure

[sleek tartan]

give me one of those disproved examples

no

you gave me an old statistic copy paste from the US army non the less

after the wart

that shows nothing but a percentage

of how many people died

[proven pagoda]

you think the US army lies?

[sleek tartan]

They sure did many times

[proven pagoda]

go ahead and prove

[sleek tartan]

but it isn't even relevant

[proven pagoda]

I'm waiting

[solid hinge]

I am a tank expert, I play a lot of War Thunder

[dusky saffron]

lmao

[sleek tartan]

Sure man, im gonna buy a Sherman and blow it up just to prove my stance

[proven pagoda]

you watched some history channel

read some nazi propaganda

[sleek tartan]

when there's a million people on the internet that have showed that indeed the Sherman was a moving trap

[proven pagoda]

played some ww2 games when you were little and saw shermans dying to the big bad tigers

[sleek tartan]

Keep disregarding it as nazi propaganda lol

[proven pagoda]

What was "a trap" about it?

Let's start from the beginning

[sleek tartan]

bet my ass you're american 😛

[proven pagoda]

How is it bad?

Go ahead

[solid hinge]

Tigers had a way better gun but far fewer were made and their armor was not great

[dusky saffron]

plus tigers were in constant need of repair

[solid hinge]

People just hype the tank because it looks badass

And their engines were not great

[pliant geyser]

Sherman was in every conceivable way a better tank than the Tiger

[sleek tartan]

It was a between war approach to tanks, totally unviable for the roles it was given. It was prone to disabling, it didn't offer any advantages at all over the opponents

the only reason it was victorious was the sheer number

in a 1v1 a Sherman literally stands no chance against a tiger

[proven pagoda]

Ok let's break this down

How is it unviable for the roles it was given

[solid hinge]

It was never 1v1 though

[pliant geyser]

1v1 sherman vs tiger was never gonna happen

[proven pagoda]

let him speak

[solid hinge]

So it’s not really a valid metric to rate a tank

[pliant geyser]

1v1 sherman and a working tiger would never happen either

[proven pagoda]

@pliant geyser @solid hinge let him answer

[sleek tartan]

The role for the sherman was to be the main armoured artillery of all forms and the main task tank

yet it didnt offer protection for the main weapons the axis used against tanks

or even range to attack them from safe distances

so tell me how it is viable in its role

other than by flooding the enemy

[proven pagoda]

I don't think that was really its role

[sleek tartan]

Okay, what was it

[proven pagoda]

it was made to support advancements

[solid hinge]

Only around 1300 hundred tanks were built in the entire war, Germany was fighting on a lot of fronts

[pliant geyser]

Sherman was Infantry support primarily. Other vehicles were the tiger killers

[solid hinge]

Only around 1300 tiger tanks I mean

[proven pagoda]

I'll ask a more roundabout question here

[quasi mulch]

Did you guys ever read about that guy who owned a Sherman, parked it on the street and was told by the homeowners association that if he didn't move it it'd be towed?
He was like "lmao k"

[proven pagoda]

If the Sherman didn't do that role, what tank did?

[sleek tartan]

Just by the amount of tanks and little variety that the US had, and the general bad state of tanks in the allied side, there was simply not that many options to the Sherman

so what were the Tiger killers?

you talk about how there were few tigers

[solid hinge]

Btw you know the image May 23 battlefield will never be the same

[proven pagoda]

I mean the US almost never fought Tigers

[sleek tartan]

but how many tanks that weren't Shermans the allied had?

[proven pagoda]

Quite a few

[sleek tartan]

Numbers

[solid hinge]

Including the Russian tanks

I was in the server of ee community when they discovered it

[quasi mulch]

Honestly I'd love to move to the US just because you can own a tank there.

[sleek tartan]

I want to see you say the numbers

coz I know them

[proven pagoda]

Depends on if you're going to allow tank destroyers

[sleek tartan]

I just want to make sure you do too

[proven pagoda]

Or if you mean what the army called a tank

[sleek tartan]

Reality is that the allies in Europe had very little armored forces, and out of those up to 90% were shermans in 1941

[proven pagoda]

If the Sherman didn't fulfill the role it was designed for, what tank did?

[sleek tartan]

None.

[proven pagoda]

Whats an example from another nation you can bring up

[quasi mulch]

There was also this German guy who got arrested for owning a tank. He was taking it for joyrides around the village he was in

[sleek tartan]

The Sherman had to be a jack of all trades of a tank in WW2

and obviously dindt excell at any role

[proven pagoda]

I mean

neither did german tanks

or russian tanks

or anybody's tanks

[sleek tartan]

it was simply the amount of them that was produced and later moved to europe that made it viable

that's just wrong

[solid hinge]

You can’t hate on the motherlands tanks

[proven pagoda]

well name an example

[sleek tartan]

The Panzedr IV was a great multi task tank

[proven pagoda]

lol

[sleek tartan]

The Stug was the most effective tank in the war

[proven pagoda]

lol

[sleek tartan]

do you know that?

[quasi mulch]

Glorious stallinium armor @solid hinge

[proven pagoda]

The StuG was quite good yes

possibly Germany's best armored vehicle

but I don't know how you think the pzIV is better than the Sherman

[sleek tartan]

Not at all simply very effective cost/usability ratio

[solid hinge]

T34 and the KV1 are the best tanks, fight me

[sleek tartan]

The panzer was faster, better armed, better armoured...

[quasi mulch]

They don't need optics either. When they fire the main gun on the T34, Stalin's blessings guide the shell to the target @solid hinge

[proven pagoda]

prove it

😛

[solid hinge]

You guys didn't know that the reveal date of battlefield v was discovered by an battlefield 1 easter egg?

[proven pagoda]

Panzer definitely didn't have the mobility, you're just wrong there

[sleek tartan]

There is objective data at your disposal

[proven pagoda]

Post some of it 😛

[solid hinge]

Germany lost? What more proof do you need lol

Not true battlefield veterans here...

[quasi mulch]

@solid hinge wait whaaaaaat

[solid hinge]

@quasi mulch om let me tell you the story

[proven pagoda]

Not going to lie and say the Sherman's off road capability was fantastic until they started putting wider tracks on them

[solid hinge]

Does playing for a week make me a veteran?

[proven pagoda]

but at least the Shermans eventually made that change

[solid hinge]

So what happened was remember the fort de vaux zombie door? @quasi mulch

[proven pagoda]

PzIVs were stuck with those poor thin tracks the whole war

[quasi mulch]

Yeah!

[solid hinge]

They opened it and after they did the Easter egg

They heard rain falling

[sleek tartan]

@proven pagoda The max speed of the Sherman was 48km/h in roads (and in theory) reality is that it didn't achieve that most of the times back then with the wider tracks they needed to actually make it usable at all in country road

[solid hinge]

They translated that in morse code

[proven pagoda]

yes, that is what I just said

[sleek tartan]

the Panzer could indeed hold its max speed of 38km/h very well

[solid hinge]

The morse code gave a site

[proven pagoda]

so prove it

find some documentation that showed this

[solid hinge]

They site was battlefieldwillneverbethesame

[quasi mulch]

You're shitting me

[solid hinge]

No

Wait let mw show you a video

[quasi mulch]

Holy shit, that's deep

[sleek tartan]

"Panzer IV Ausf.B (Sd.Kfz.161)

The long version of the tank’s name is Panzerkampfwagen-IV (7,5cm) (Vskfz. 622) Ausfuehrung B, (2./B.W.). Krupp-Gruson completed 42 Panzer IV Ausf.B tanks between May and October 1938, a further 3 of the contract for a total of 45 vehicles were not completed due to problems with critical parts. The main changes of the Ausf. B to the previous Ausf.A were the thickening of the frontal armour to 30 mm and a new 300hp Maybach HL-120TR gasoline/petrol engine connected to a six-speed SSG-76 transmission, offering a top road speed of 40 km/h (24 mph)."

[proven pagoda]

I said a source

not text

[sleek tartan]

That's just bullshit

[proven pagoda]

i don't doubt that the PzIv could go 40kph on a road

but you don't often get to use roads in combat

which is why I talked about the issue of having those thin tracks the PzIV had the entire war

[sleek tartan]

IDK if you want me to buy a panzer and film myself doing 40km/h

[proven pagoda]

Uhh

that means post the source material

and not just the tetx

[sleek tartan]

but pretty much all historians agree that since it adopted the 300bhp it could reach well over the max real speed of the sherman

and yes, I can't prove it beyond that

[solid hinge]

https://youtu.be/Q8Vsj85wDzg

@quasi mulch

[proven pagoda]

Armor wise they're about the same

[solid hinge]

Watch this video

Explains full history

[proven pagoda]

Gun wise the Sherman is either worse at anti tank with the 75 or better with the 76

[solid hinge]

This is why i love battlefield

[sleek tartan]

The Panzer got all the upgrades for the turret ring, the tracks and so on much earlier

and they worked great

[solid hinge]

They are always refreshing

[proven pagoda]

remember that the later PIVs also didn't have electric turrets

that's gotta suck

[sleek tartan]

Don't forget Germany was pretty much tier top in techonology back then

[proven pagoda]

They were trying a lot of things, yes.

[sleek tartan]

it's Hitler not being able to foresee costs that fucked it all

[proven pagoda]

Hitler had very little to do with Germany losing the war

[sleek tartan]

No, it had a lot to do with it.

[proven pagoda]

hitler didn't have much say on what actually happened

[sleek tartan]

he didnt have a good business expertise

[opaque cipher]

Hitler was not really that much of a deal in terms of what the army gets equipped with

[proven pagoda]

For example the STG44 would never have been made if it were up to Hitler

[sleek tartan]

and he kept insisting on using resources for stuff that hardly made enough difference

[solid hinge]

Jezus you guys sound like nerds

Lol

[opaque cipher]

He didn’t like the StG, the generals snucked it around and passed it into service anyways

[sleek tartan]

We are nerds

deal with it

[proven pagoda]

If you think hitler had a big say in what went on with the army's resources, you can just look at the STG

[solid hinge]

Hahahahah

[sleek tartan]

I'm also a 250 pound 6'4'' nerd

so watch out

😄

[solid hinge]

Lol

[opaque cipher]

He’s mostly just the mean guy with a stick up his ass

[proven pagoda]

They called it the Mp43 and Mp44 for a while just to make sure he didn't shut it down

because he had already said he did not want that design being used