battlefield-legacy-titles

[dusky saffron]

face paints in general would be lit but,

[solid hinge]

rainbow face paint

[proven acorn]

they should add silencers

[dusky saffron]

nothing from the trailer pls

also!

beards when

when

[sonic rampart]

I want a moustache!

[solid hinge]

headshots your beard

[dusky saffron]

:<

[proven acorn]

well "suppressors"

[sonic rampart]

[solid hinge]

Silencers are Not Allowed

[dusky saffron]

some of the muzzles are silencer shaped, or supposed to be them

[proven acorn]

itd be cool if they overheated and exploded like irl too

[sonic rampart]

No bullets will penetrate my moustache

[solid hinge]

only weird muzzle customizations that usually look ugly as fuck

[dusky saffron]

this face paint

l m a o

[jovial forge]

Funny how the standard muzzles on some weapons look flatout better

[sonic rampart]

Avatar confirmed

[proven acorn]

yep

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[jovial forge]

some of those face paints were legit use in real life

[dusky saffron]

mhm

[solid hinge]

snail?

[jovial forge]

that particular one was used by a pilot squadron I think

[dusky saffron]

snail facepaint confirmed

[proven acorn]

kinda like the used real life as a reference during development

[sonic rampart]

Choppers in bf5 when?

[solid hinge]

you mean this game was based on real life?

[dusky saffron]

[jovial forge]

influenced lul

[stone brook]

how is Gale an epic facepaint?

[dusky saffron]

influenced

[stone brook]

you can barely see it

[dusky saffron]

the ratburner was real

[solid hinge]

use darker characters

😌

[sonic rampart]

They really should add a chopper to this game

[dusky saffron]

choppers were technically made in the 1930s

[stone brook]

choppers?

[dusky saffron]

or the very first

so

[sonic rampart]

Like I dont need a chopper with guns

[dusky saffron]

[stone brook]

like helicopters or motorcycles?

[dusky saffron]

helis

[proven acorn]

yes choppers in bf5

[stone brook]

id use a rad custom chopper bike to ride into battle

[sonic rampart]

Just like the ones in ww2

[solid hinge]

to ride into a pebble and ragdoll 200 metres you mean

[sonic rampart]

Transportation aka

[proven acorn]

those were more like dirtbikes...

[dusky saffron]

earliest helicopter

[sonic rampart]

You can land on buildings

[stone brook]

yea add stinger missiles and apaches

and the m16

[proven acorn]

yes please

[stone brook]

and ak-74

[sonic rampart]

Aka they could add obliteration

Because choppers would make it fun

[proven acorn]

bf5 map evolution when

[dusky saffron]

it's called weather

[jovial forge]

I'd like to drive a boulder like the one in spongebob

[stone brook]

at least the vehicles in bf5 are true to era - they absolutely SUCK

[proven acorn]

weather lmao

[solid hinge]

piat nerf when

[sonic rampart]

add transportation helis from ww2 and add obliteration to bf5

[random raft]

They should add the russian army

[dusky saffron]

piat is very fair

!

it's as skillful as bayonetting

[solid hinge]

They're gonna make the Russian anti tank rifle a recon main weapon

[sonic rampart]

You can use it as a mortar

[solid hinge]

Mark my words

[proven acorn]

vehicles are underpower

[sonic rampart]

Imagine those ww2 choppers

[proven acorn]

i sneak up on tanks all the time

[sonic rampart]

Wouldnt it be great, or would it suck

[jovial forge]

You know that would make for a hilarious easter egg on a map as a transport vehicle

[proven acorn]

the couch

[stone brook]

recons getting the Tankgewehr M1918 as a primary rifle next update

[solid hinge]

YES

YES

YES

[jovial forge]

Big Rock = Easter egg vehicle

[proven acorn]

oh fuck

[jovial forge]

wait what?

Serious?

[sonic rampart]

But they will never add choppers in bf5

[solid hinge]

fall into the hype

why would recons ever get anything good

[proven acorn]

at rifles for recons.... gr8

[stone brook]

lol i wish

[pale rain]

I miss playing bf4 recon

[solid hinge]

piat should be doing far less vehicle damage

[sonic rampart]

Recons should get like 1 OP machine gun, because supporters are sniping aswell anyway

[proven acorn]

bf4 recon? you mean that one useless class?

[dusky saffron]

anti tank rifles as a recon gadget when

[jovial forge]

I'm more for Recons getting smgs though

[dusky saffron]

[pale rain]

With my M40A5 and rushing an objective with my G-18 lol

[solid hinge]

im waiting for it alt

itll happen

[jovial forge]

trade long range for short range

[dusky saffron]

why make it a primary

when it could be a gadget

make recon great again

[solid hinge]

if they do add alternate weapons for classes i think it'll be for different combat roles

[sonic rampart]

A chopper for Recons when?!?

[pale rain]

Wait vote, was the recon class in bf4 good or bad?

[solid hinge]

you know the sniper and pathfinder shit?

[sonic rampart]

Bad

[dusky saffron]

boring in bf4

[solid hinge]

they'll probably add more with different weapons

[proven acorn]

bad

[dusky saffron]

maybe

[jovial forge]

BF4 was slightly better then BF3 Recons since they got C4

[pale rain]

Wut

[proven acorn]

jeep stuff*

[pale rain]

So I’m the only one that loved recon on bf4? Lol

[midnight nimbus]

you could use carbines too

[steep radish]

I loved it

[sonic rampart]

I mean they had spawn beacon

[solid hinge]

at the moment one combat role is usually overwhelmingly better than the others

[sonic rampart]

s

[midnight nimbus]

which are just bad ARs but still decent

[pale rain]

Wow 4-1

[jovial forge]

however BF3 Recons had a more balanced weapon selection

[stone brook]

Medics get the Villar Perosa

[proven acorn]

any class could use carbines

[sonic rampart]

^

[dusky saffron]

slrs still kick ass on recon

selb

[proven acorn]

just be a medic or support lmao

[jovial forge]

Bolt Action Rifles, DMRs, Shotguns and smgs

[solid hinge]

slrs still lose out to semis

[dusky saffron]

fact

recoil and rof difference is big oof

[jovial forge]

slrs are skill cannon weapons

[dusky saffron]

[stone brook]

1-5 > any recon weapon

big facts

[dusky saffron]

false

[solid hinge]

gewehr 43 straight up beats the slrs

[stone brook]

1-5 > 43 too

[jovial forge]

Assault with dmrs will always shit on shitty Recon players

[solid hinge]

1-5 will get your ass beat at range

[stone brook]

43 for low kill peoples

1-5 for BIG kill peoples

feel me?

[jovial forge]

Not really

[solid hinge]

G43 will shit on anyone anywhere

[dusky saffron]

1-5 can't fair well at anything farther than 15m

[dense bone]

G1-5 IS BIG BRAIN

[dusky saffron]

it's great upclose

[proven acorn]

unless you can pop that headshot off nearly instantly... i have trouble justifying recon lmao

[pale rain]

G43 is a freaking boss

True

[stone brook]

we talking about the gewhr 1-5

[solid hinge]

@proven acorn just pop those heads baby

[dense bone]

g1-5 better

[stone brook]

not the sturmgewhr

smh

[dense bone]

g1-5 god mode

[pale rain]

It feels good when you go on a head shot streak with a bolt sniper

[stone brook]

g1-5 is the most OP weapon in the game easily

[jovial forge]

Currently using the ag m42

[dense bone]

ew

[pale rain]

I can’t wait to try it

[stone brook]

spec the entire right side, all ADS

[pale rain]

The g1-5

[stone brook]

big clip, shoots like a laser

[solid hinge]

i3cant be mad when any ag m42 kills me

[proven acorn]

mg 42 is nuts

[dense bone]

as in bad

[dusky saffron]

agm 42 is not as nutty as the other semis

[solid hinge]

it's the worst gun!

[dusky saffron]

fact

[dense bone]

10 round with slow reload, gotta spec for a decent reload

lol

[solid hinge]

10 round 4 shot kill

[jovial forge]

@oblique parcel Feels like its a more accurate M1 carbine with less bullets. Sadly I can't get it fully speced out since I lack CC

[dusky saffron]

4btk at less than 20m

[solid hinge]

talk about feeble

[stone brook]

the g43 is ok but it loses out to the g1-5 because you can't spec it as effectively

g15 lets you p ick up all of the good ADS stuff

you miss one or 2 things on the g43

[dusky saffron]

yeah

it's a peashooter

tbh

[dense bone]

ew

[solid hinge]

but the g1-5 still has a 5 btk at range

[jovial forge]

g43 is solid

[dusky saffron]

ye

but at less than 10m

it's 3htk

[dense bone]

solid, but it aint no g1-5

[dusky saffron]

and it's spammy

[solid hinge]

not that that really matters with 31 bullets

[dusky saffron]

which is lit

[jovial forge]

m1 carbine is very forgiving for those that cant hit the broad side of a barn

ag m42 is a punishing weapon

[solid hinge]

3 shot kill gun with 31 mag

[jovial forge]

if you not good

[stone brook]

i can kill 3-5 people in one barrage with the g1-5

[solid hinge]

;_;

[stone brook]

cant even attempt that with g43

[dense bone]

its a not kill 3 people gun

[fleet mantle]

g-1 is not a 3 shot kill

[stone brook]

because you know the clip is going to run out

[fleet mantle]

its a 5 shot kill at max range

and a 3 shot headshot

[dense bone]

ag42 is good for 1-2 people

[solid hinge]

3 shot at close range

[pale rain]

G1-5 is a 3 shot?

[dense bone]

thats it

[jovial forge]

I refuse to spam the m1 carbine.

[fleet mantle]

g1-5 is a 3 shot at point blank

[dusky saffron]

1-5 is very nutty

at less than 10m

[fleet mantle]

and a 5 shot at max falloff

[jovial forge]

each shot has to count

[dusky saffron]

30 bullets

just unload on people

[stone brook]

it's 3 shot at much longer range than point blank lol

[solid hinge]

10 potential kills

[stone brook]

31

[solid hinge]

..10 potential kills

[dense bone]

1-5 is easily the most relevant to bfv

[jovial forge]

M1 does have a high kill potential

[bitter oracle]

Can someone let DICE know about the issues regarding frame rate drops on the highend 2080TI ?

[solid hinge]

that's a lot of dead people in one mag

[fleet mantle]

its a 3 shot out to like 30 meters

[bitter oracle]

even on low settings ?

[fleet mantle]

thats really really short

[stone brook]

i have those sometimes too meth

[pale rain]

G43 favorite gun in the game. But haven’t unlocked the g1-5

[stone brook]

not really a fps drop

but itll stutter sometimes

[solid hinge]

30 m is not short

[dusky saffron]

yeah that's p far

[solid hinge]

im a recon main so im also a webley main

[stone brook]

almost all of the action in bf5 takes place inside 75m

[dense bone]

anything further than that, you can basically ignore people

[jovial forge]

How ever you have to consider the damage fall off for dmrs

[bitter oracle]

yeah that also the stuttering

[stone brook]

at least anything that counts

[solid hinge]

30 m is big

[dusky saffron]

weebley main @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

@dusky saffron come within 7m of me and say that again

[dusky saffron]

uh sorry

I'm using a shotgun

nty

[dense bone]

unless youre not playing objectives (fuck you), then something other than g1-5 is better

[jovial forge]

I use the M1911 with most of my classes

[dusky saffron]

actually

[jovial forge]

its solid

[dusky saffron]

say that to my bayonet

[stone brook]

i used to use 1911

[solid hinge]

caps your knees

[stone brook]

swapped to revolver

[dusky saffron]

big stab

[stone brook]

not sure which i like better

[solid hinge]

webley is better on recon

i use 1911 on medic

[jovial forge]

i hate the damage fall off of the webly. Its like the no.3 revolver from bf1

[solid hinge]

ruby on assault and support

[dusky saffron]

how to make big brain melee kills with the weebley

step 1, shoot the person once

step 2, heavy weapon and insta win

gets them everytime

[solid hinge]

very satisfying feeling

The falloff is big but it's close range potential is significant

And the falloff on ALL of them suck

[jovial forge]

Pulling a McCree "High Noo~~n" on a enemy trying to melee is satisfying

[dusky saffron]

they're buffing the webley as well

[solid hinge]

So.. don't engage at anything other than close range with secondary

oh god webley buff

unf

unf

[jovial forge]

yes

[dusky saffron]

because the range drop offs are silly

for the pistols

[fleet mantle]

yeah the range for the revolver 1 shot headshot is way too short

[jovial forge]

The fall off from the 1911 doesnt seem all the much

[solid hinge]

what's it's 2btk range now?

[jovial forge]

but the webley is very noticable

[fleet mantle]

its like what 6 meters

[dusky saffron]

uh

[solid hinge]

In the buff i mean

It's 7m now

[dusky saffron]

I think it's now 9m

or something above that

[fleet mantle]

i miss the .44 from bf4

[solid hinge]

two metres will mean i can shoot across a room!

[dusky saffron]

!

[stone brook]

anyone have a link to weapon stats besides the raw data dump? aint nobody trying to sift through that

i found a google docs but it's incomplete, missing a bunch of guns

[solid hinge]

Doesn't the m1912 have the least falloff

[jovial forge]

.44 and Deagle hit like dump trucks

[unborn blaze]

I saw Webley buff?

[fleet mantle]

i parsed out some for the assault rifles but nothing else

[unborn blaze]

Yeet

[solid hinge]

hmmmmm I wonder which gun I should choose
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465684920300470279/532670315478646818/Screenshot_420.png

the mods r gey lul

they disabled images

DUAL WIELD

big gey

[dusky saffron]

nah it's cause you're not trusted

🙃

[stone brook]

only 2 of the pistols are even worth using

1911 or revolver

[solid hinge]

trusted is too hard to get

maybe

Not true!

idk how to get it

M1912 allegedly has best falloff

But should I use the M1911 or the M1911?

[jovial forge]

Dual weilding 1911 would be awesome as long as its not easter egg related

[solid hinge]

And ruby is very good for finishing enemies

[stone brook]

yea but falloff doesnt mean squat to pistols

[pale rain]

Haven’t even used the ruby because of crappy looking stats

[dusky saffron]

I actually really like the ruby

in this game

[stone brook]

when you whip out the pistol it's a last ditch effort

[solid hinge]

Falloff means a LOT to pistols

[stone brook]

and you aren't going to be at any range where falloff would matter

[pale rain]

When sniping I pull out my pistol a lot

[solid hinge]

ye this tbh

t. Not recon main

[analog mist]

Did the PS4 NA servers die?

[pale rain]

No

[jovial forge]

dont use pistols for range unless yeeting on a low hp enemy

[solid hinge]

I only whip it out if I'm recon or if I run out of ammo

[pale rain]

Same

[analog mist]

Can't find a single one all of a sudden.

[dusky saffron]

pistol sniping when

we need scopes

[solid hinge]

wait for the webley buff

[stone brook]

yea and if i have to bring it out im too close to get off a reload

or ive run out of ammo

[solid hinge]

prepare for head dinks

[jovial forge]

.44 + acog

[pale rain]

It’s pretty funny getting a long range kill with a pistols

[stone brook]

not good either way

[devout rose]

Hipfire accuracy on m1911 was noticeably weaker

[unborn blaze]

@analog mist how are you trying to find them

[solid hinge]

scopes for guns

[dusky saffron]

dinks an enemy at 9m

[solid hinge]

wait we already have scopes

for guns

[dusky saffron]

feels good mang

[solid hinge]

I never knew

[unborn blaze]

Because Server Browser is nonfunctional atm

[solid hinge]

im convinced it's gonna break 10m

i heard it was 12m

[jovial forge]

To be fair. The M1911 feels very close to its Bad company 2 version

[solid hinge]

7m to 12m

[pale rain]

M1911 was a beast in bf4

[solid hinge]

Gives me the shivers

[stone brook]

man the best pistol in BC2

[dusky saffron]

the big shake

[stone brook]

you guessed it

MP-443

[pale rain]

It just didn’t hold enough ammo compared to the others

[stone brook]

GRACH

[dusky saffron]

mp34 buffs when

[fleet mantle]

the .44 in bf4 was like 35 meters before getting nerfed to like 25

[dusky saffron]

🙃

[solid hinge]

Recon is just the best..

the best..

[fleet mantle]

for a 1 shot headshot i mean

[solid hinge]

most satisfying

[stone brook]

BC2 made me want to buy a real MP443

[pale rain]

Lol

[stone brook]

only to learn it's basically non-existent in NA

[pale rain]

Yep

[jovial forge]

where are these patch notes?

[solid hinge]

aggressive bolt action recon

[pale rain]

I bought a glock lol

[unborn blaze]

That's the best recon

[pale rain]

G-19

[dusky saffron]

patch notes aren't out yet

[unborn blaze]

Aggressive recon

[jovial forge]

oh

[dusky saffron]

it was just a teaser

also

[pale rain]

So when does the next TOW thing start?

[dusky saffron]

supposedly

[devout rose]

We basically know what's in it though

[dusky saffron]

10 pages of notes

WATCH THEM BE IN 16 FONT

[pale rain]

16th right?

[jovial forge]

Aggressive recon was pretty good back in BF3 and BF4

[pale rain]

Lmao

Yes I agree

[dusky saffron]

16th for the next chapter

[pale rain]

Y’all may hate me

[dusky saffron]

patch might come out before

[stone brook]

cqb recon worked in bf1 because of sweetspot

recons need a lot of help in bf5 tbh

[jovial forge]

sweetspot....

[dusky saffron]

they need to remove glint for 3x on sniper

[unborn blaze]

Recon is pretty good in BFV

[dusky saffron]

and give better gadgets

[pale rain]

But SR-338 was a fun gun to play aggressive recon with

[dusky saffron]

then we're lit

[fleet mantle]

its not that recon is bad in bfv its just that assault is so much better

[pale rain]

In bf4

[unborn blaze]

I just snipe from a distance

[stone brook]

nah mang, the most useful recon right now is the one spot botting

bf5 also has a movement buff

[jovial forge]

Anyone remember how everyone hated on the sr-338 when it was first release cus it was broken?

[stone brook]

i can dodge any recon even in open space

[jovial forge]

Mastered that gun in its broken state lol

[stone brook]

oh look scope glint there's some guy over there being useless

[devout rose]

lmao

[stone brook]

lemme just duck and dodge and kill everyone else

[solid hinge]

I'd like a bolt action damage buff

For the krag at least

[dusky saffron]

sure

[jovial forge]

Should give Assaults a x3 scope glint to balance it out

[dusky saffron]

we'll make body shots from 50

to 51

[fleet mantle]

eh, they all still 1 shot to the head

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

FIFTY DAMAGE

[jovial forge]

Cant have recon being a lighthouse while allowing assault to do the same with no glint

[solid hinge]

it's shooting a fucking nerf dart

[stone brook]

yea but how you finna headshot anyone competent that you don't catch standing completely still?

[dusky saffron]

shoot them more

[fleet mantle]

git gud?

[brittle imp]

Ayla why are you butthurt about 50 damage

Seriously

[fleet mantle]

i dont have trouble with it tbh

[dusky saffron]

yikes

[solid hinge]

Excuse me?

[stone brook]

yea but you shooting not git guds

[solid hinge]

My ass is feeling fresh and fine

[brittle imp]

Wait are you for or against 50 damage?

If you are mad it does 50 damage imma laugh

[jovial forge]

I was miffed about the damage nerf being knocked to 50 - 51 but at the end of the day, still a 2 shot body shot

[devout rose]

50 is a little low tbh

[solid hinge]

I would like a sniper rifle to do a little more than 50 damage on a body shot in a game where you can heal instantly

[dusky saffron]

^

[devout rose]

Agreed

[stone brook]

i loved recon in bf1, can't even justify playing it now. only play it for dailies lol

[jovial forge]

60 or 75 but people would get mad

[solid hinge]

Frequently people heal over the 100 damage and i have to shoot them 3 times

[fleet mantle]

in bf1 with the sweet spot it was ez mode though

[brittle imp]

Lol I had a good laugh ayla thanks

[stone brook]

yea but they were useful at least

[dusky saffron]

please do not bring back sweet spot

[carmine eagle]

Support

[devout rose]

The sweet spots in BF1 is what made the scout class shine

[solid hinge]

Np babe

[dusky saffron]

sweet spot was a baby mechanic

[solid hinge]

I don't like sweet spots

[dusky saffron]

[devout rose]

nah

[jovial forge]

I never utilized the sweetspot since it was so unreliable

[stone brook]

recons got doodoo gadgets too

[fleet mantle]

nah sweet spot was a bad mechanic

[devout rose]

It made sense

[dusky saffron]

no it didn't

[solid hinge]

I'd like the gun to have some weight behind it though

[dusky saffron]

^

[jovial forge]

1895 trench and g95 all the way

[carmine eagle]

Sweet spots= broken camping spots for sniper pussies

[stone brook]

m10a hunter

[devout rose]

you're not always gonna be within the sweet spot

[dusky saffron]

not always but the range was pretty wide

and the snipers still did a lot of damage

[devout rose]

I can agree on that

[jovial forge]

thats why it was unreliable outside of the martini henry and vetalli rifle

those were the only two I didnt mind

[dusky saffron]

the only class that had no real mechanical changes was medic

and even then

bullet spread still was a thing from the start of the barrel

[stone brook]

well they took away the medics medium range rifles

[devout rose]

Medic is still kind of underpowered

[dense bone]

medic is doo doo

[stone brook]

right now it's like this: assault and support - balance, medic - underpowered, recon - lol

[dusky saffron]

[jovial forge]

One has to wonder why someone thought it was a good idea to allow Medics to snipe

[solid hinge]

I'd be alright with medic if it had an option for support

Currently it doesn't

[dusky saffron]

lever actions for medics when

yeehaw

that'll fix mid range combat

🙃

[solid hinge]

i mean single fire suomi is pretty fun

[devout rose]

I'm just glad they're fixing vaulting lmao

[jovial forge]

1895 trench had no sweet spot

[stone brook]

are they?

[dense bone]

give them a slow rof semi

[devout rose]

Yeah

Next patch apparently

[stone brook]

you guys ever had the SUPER LOOOOOOOONG vault animation?

like when you fall off something and grab onto a tall ledge

and it takes like 5 seconds to complete the animation

[solid hinge]

God

It's so long

I reckon it might be longer than 5 seconds

[devout rose]

I can't get up a 6 inch rock sometimes

[stone brook]

you hang there for like 2 seconds before you even start pulling yourself up

[devout rose]

The animation where you are hanging?

[stone brook]

yea

[solid hinge]

It got me a successful flank once because i spent so long climbing that a bunch of people ran past me

[devout rose]

It feels a little too long yeah

[stone brook]

i only get it when i fall off something and grab onto another tall ledge

which doesnt happen a lot but when it does it sucks

[dusky saffron]

anyways

[jovial forge]

@solid hinge The sniper variant and infantry variant had a sweet spot

[dusky saffron]

medic is in a odd place atm

give him more and he'd kinda be op

yeah practically

[stone brook]

at point blank range maybe

[jovial forge]

The 1895 Trench sacrified sweet spot and HS range for faster rof and tighter hipfire

[dusky saffron]

mp34 with auto buff is a pocket stg

this is actual fact

[stone brook]

i liked the variations on guns in bf1

[dusky saffron]

but 20 bullets is really something

[stone brook]

several versions of shotguns

[jovial forge]

The variant system kinda sucked overall

[stone brook]

and how did the shotguns get worse going from ww1 to ww2? smh

[dusky saffron]

variants were a joke

in bf1

3rd variant of a lot of weapons was the "XD" type, like burst fire or single shot

why

[jovial forge]

It only became more of a joke when the PeaceMaker came out and you had idiots saying "There already enough guns in the game, stop being selfish"

yet ignore the fact it was the same gun but slightly altered 😐

had a shit ton of M1911 for what reason?

[dusky saffron]

4 M19's in the game I think

[jovial forge]

Regular 1911, Doughboy, Hellfighter, M1911A1 and silenced

yet when people called it out, we were in the wrong

[solid hinge]

Sometimes you need a lot of the same gun

[azure lark]

Stand next to someone, shoot them in the head with the Liberator. No one shot kill. Da fuq

[jovial forge]

oh and I forgot a M1911 extended for the pilot class

5 variants of the same damn gun

wtf

[stone brook]

imagine putting the liberator in the game and thinking that was a good idea

[fleet mantle]

i mean it fires the same bullet as the 1911

[stone brook]

"har har we'll put this completely use gimmick gun in the game, it'll be great"

[fleet mantle]

wouldnt make sense if it did 1 shot

[stone brook]

useless*

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 variants were gud

better than BFV trees for the most part

[jovial forge]

variants were a joke

remove the variants and add what we really got

[midnight nimbus]

actual variety

[solid hinge]

Liberator should at least shoot webley round and ideally 1btk headshot at any range

[midnight nimbus]

both BF1 RSC variants are good, can't say quite the same about both sides of the StG tree

[fleet mantle]

ive actually shot a liberator IRL and its an interesting and not at all fun gun to shoot

[dusky saffron]

[fleet mantle]

its like folded sheet metal designed to bite your hand lol

[stone brook]

what you don't like rubberband trees?

[dusky saffron]

ideally 1btk headshot at any range

[pale rain]

Wow lol

[solid hinge]

You heard me

[stone brook]

how does Bad Company 2 have better destruction physics than BF5?

[dusky saffron]

no

[stone brook]

explain that one

[dusky saffron]

bc that's bad thought

[azure lark]

it should kill in one shot to the head if I'm standing next to the enemy. By the time I reload, I've been tea bagged by 5 different squads. If it won't kill with one shot to the head upclose, get rid of the damn thing

[jovial forge]

You could level the whole map

[solid hinge]

If you can land a 50m headshot with the liberator you deserve that kill

[stone brook]

i loved shooting trees with 50 cal

and clearing them out

[jovial forge]

Thats what alot of people want but that ruined the map flow along with basecamping

[dusky saffron]

noe

[muted socket]

dumb question: do u guys always play the same class every match

[jovial forge]

not i

[dusky saffron]

I like playing recon and medic a majority of the time

[stone brook]

now if you shoot a tree it rubberbands all over the place like one of those flappy arm blowups at a car dealership

[solid hinge]

I try and swap it up but recon is my favourite

[azure lark]

I used to for the mastery assignments but now that I've gotten a few guns to gold, I've got my classes with my favorite weapons and I alternate based on circumstances

[dusky saffron]

ironsight slrs are lit

[dense bone]

ew

[jovial forge]

Recon -> Support -> Assault -> Medic for me

[dense bone]

i hate them

[dusky saffron]

ironsights are best

this is fact

[muted socket]

like i mainly do medic but i feel like i shouldnt swap out of some weird obligation

[dense bone]

give me a nydar sight for slrs please

[dusky saffron]

n o e

[solid hinge]

I only pick assault normally if i need to blow up a tank

[dusky saffron]

that's not skillful enough

[jovial forge]

Good medics are a dime a dozen

[dusky saffron]

[jovial forge]

hella strong when used right

[stone brook]

i play assault and support now depending on gametype and map, and that's it

[dense bone]

that means they are common

[dusky saffron]

I am one

[solid hinge]

good medics

[azure lark]

Recon for when I'm exhausted of playing the objective. Assault for actually killing people, Support for melting people and hanging out bullets. Medic for getting hipfire headshots lol

[dense bone]

dime in a dozen is 10/12....

[azure lark]

I usually never use smoke in any games but with medic, I'm using it all the time

especially in front of tanks

F them

[solid hinge]

smoke is useful in this because it blocks spotting

[dense bone]

good medics are not a dime in a dozen

[stone brook]

a 'good' medic is almost always in a voiced up squad being heavily supported

[jovial forge]

I mean actual medics that are decent at their main roles.

[stone brook]

any medic can heal and revive

a good medic can drop a 70 bomb while doing so

extremely rare

[pale rain]

Yes I use smokes to blind tanks

[azure lark]

speaking of medics, I played in a squad last night where all four of us were medics. A good time was had!

[storm wedge]

Tank: reverses

[dense bone]

i was gonna main medic, but fuck that

^

[stone brook]

i started out bfv playing medic exclusively

[dusky saffron]

medics are fine

[dense bone]

get out

[solid hinge]

A squad of ju st medics is frightening

[stone brook]

got to rank 19, 2.97 kdr, couldnt figure out why everyone thought they had issues

[dusky saffron]

2.5+ kd with them

[stone brook]

then i played support and assault

[dusky saffron]

:>

[muted socket]

ive only played anything other than medic like once but that was only bc i couldn t select it on the server for some reason

[pale rain]

Wow

[dusky saffron]

no one saw that

[storm wedge]

If your kdr with a tank is only 2,97 wtf are you doing

[solid hinge]

You should try out the other classes

[pale rain]

Lol I did

[stone brook]

tank?

[dense bone]

right, i thought they were fine, then tried assault, and saw what was out there

[storm wedge]

wait wtf

[stone brook]

i said medic

[storm wedge]

yeah misread that shit

[stone brook]

my medic class kdr is 2.97

my support is 3.7

[storm wedge]

yeyeyeye

[stone brook]

assault 4.39

[storm wedge]

k

[jovial forge]

Considering that Medics can self heal, makes them pretty good at counter a Recon that get the headshot kill

[muted socket]

u can see individual kdrs for individual classes?

[storm wedge]

probably

[stone brook]

on stats tracker

[solid hinge]

Medics are a pain in the ass as recon

[muted socket]

ah

[jovial forge]

yes they are

[dense bone]

@muted socket https://battlefieldtracker.com/

[sonic rampart]

Medics cant heal themself if they are dead

[stone brook]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/getgood-godaim/overview

[muted socket]

my kdr is awful. like .6

im more concerned with getting my w/l up tbh

[dense bone]

w/l is most important, but least in your hands

[stone brook]

my win % hovers at 63-65

[pale rain]

I’m at 1.08 right now

[stone brook]

but i play solo

[pale rain]

Slowly climbing

[jovial forge]

When im on Recon, best counter to a medic is semi auto rifles like the 1906

[stone brook]

havent found a squad worthy of playing with yet tbh

[pale rain]

Yeh I play solo too

[storm wedge]

I dont see how win/loss is important for anything unless its TDM

You can barely affect it alone

[jovial forge]

Personal pride really

[stone brook]

not at all

[muted socket]

i dont play solo anymore bc i end up doing terribly

[solid hinge]

Slr recon is CHEATING

[dense bone]

because winning is what matters

[stone brook]

a good player can effect any gametype solo

[dense bone]

idc if you went 100-1, and lost, you still lost

[jovial forge]

@solid hinge How? you mean the sniper role?

[stone brook]

sure sometimes it doesnt make a difference, teams are too unbalanced

but i've had plenty of matches where dropping 85+ kills has won the game

in what would otherwise be a loss

[solid hinge]

because if you're lucky enough to get on the winning team 70% of the time it means statistically you are blessed by an angel

[dense bone]

win % > spm > kpm > kdr

[jovial forge]

Its no uncommon that that one player can make a difference

[solid hinge]

@jovial forge they outclass the bolt actions massively and it makes me sad

[jovial forge]

but the stars have to align

[azure lark]

yeah, that one player is the squad leader who calls in a rocket to end the game

😛

[muted socket]

so my w/l is .44 and my kd .62

[dense bone]

i was pushing 70% win, and dice said no, now im doubling the score of the 2nd place person IN GAME, and still lose...

[jovial forge]

@solid hinge The trade off for using slrs is have mostly boiled down to definet 2 shot body shot kills over the potential 1 shot head shot kills

[stone brook]

same thing happened to me

i was at 69%

[icy sluice]

har

[stone brook]

then got a string of just awful balanced gamed

[muted socket]

nice

[jovial forge]

pretty personal choice at the end of the day

[stone brook]

where I couldnt influence anything

down to 63 or something now

[dense bone]

i think anyone over 70% is lucky AF or running competent squads

[solid hinge]

Definite 2 btk on body is almost always better than potential 1 shot to the head

[jovial forge]

Depends player though

[solid hinge]

When people prone you normally have enough time to dink them twice before they can do anything

[jovial forge]

on^

[stone brook]

has to be a squad

i play with some guys that always squad

and they are all like 70+

[fleet mantle]

the slrs are seriously gimped by the 5-6 round magazines though

[dense bone]

anyone ive seen over 70% has squads

[solid hinge]

Theoretically a super pro expert could land continuous headshot kills with the Lee and get 10 kills a mag

[dense bone]

@fleet mantle easily the worst part about slrs

[stone brook]

what's todays dailies?

[dense bone]

3 kills MAX

wtf

[fleet mantle]

2 shot body shot with 5 bullets vs 3 shot body shot with 11-26 bullets and much faster rp

[dense bone]

(and yet i still flank with model 8)

[fleet mantle]

rpm* + rockets + c4/nooob tube

[icy sluice]

@stone brook It's random for everyone

[stone brook]

oh really?

i didnt know that

[icy sluice]

Yes

[solid hinge]

the important part is to get all those shots out for the sexy strip reload

[jovial forge]

Technically you can get 5 kills with a slr

[stone brook]

thought it was standard

[dense bone]

recon seriously gimped, but you can do good

[jovial forge]

But they must be headshots on weakened foes

[dense bone]

good luck with that

[stone brook]

a big problem is that bf5 has increased movement speed compared to bf1

[dense bone]

this this games TTK, thats not common

[devout rose]

You have to train yourself to go with headshots if you didn't before

[stone brook]

so landing headshots on good players is even more difficult

[dense bone]

landing headshots with slr is meaningless

[solid hinge]

it's not just movement speed

Head hitboxes are weird

[dense bone]

^

[jovial forge]

Yup, adad spam is in full swing with BFV

[dense bone]

that too

[solid hinge]

They're definitely weird

[dense bone]

afk

[devout rose]

I couldn't really figure them out too much like I could in BF1

[stone brook]

even in open space when i start my zig-zag sliding bunny hopping routine, no one is landing a headshot from any kind of distance

[jovial forge]

the thing I hate most about bolt action rifles is the massive bullet drop.

[pastel bane]

got a BFV deluxe code $20 paypal

[jovial forge]

other then that, im fine

[devout rose]

You could cycle the distance

With the specialization

[fleet mantle]

use the krag

[pale rain]

There seems to be almost no bullet drop

Compared to bf1

[fleet mantle]

it has minimal drop within any sort of effective range

[jovial forge]

For erratic styles of movement, its better to lead the shot for body shots or not shoot at all

[devout rose]

I think it's less as well

[jovial forge]

I know of the krag and its delicious bullet drop times

just sucks that the bullet drop for the others is pretty big regardless.

Especially when you can see it fall hella short before that next shot

[devout rose]

Are there any downsides to cycling the distance?

[fleet mantle]

none besides having to learn where stuff will land using different distances

[jovial forge]

^

[devout rose]

Yeah

[fleet mantle]

i find it easier to just stick with default and compensate

but im never off hill humping

[devout rose]

That's what I do

[fleet mantle]

for long long range youd probably want to mess with teh zeroing

[devout rose]

I don't sit at spawn and try to land over the map shots though lol

[jovial forge]

Never used the cycling feature at all, just played it like a did with BC2 and BF3 and compensated

[devout rose]

I actually play objectives

[jovial forge]

cycling was only good for long ball shots

[devout rose]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

When you start zig-zag sliding bunny hopping your head is going ALL over the place

Hard as fuck to land headshots with that

[devout rose]

You pretty much have to aim up way in the sky when long range sniping with the default setting

[jovial forge]

Dont go for a headshot on a zig zagging enemy, body shots are more logical

[haughty pawn]

na,there are so many aimbots these days...

[devout rose]

That's when you should cycle to be honest

[solid hinge]

cycling takes too much time

if you have time to cycle you usually have time to just aim up

[jovial forge]

think my longest headshot in BF history is barely over 700ms using the default cycle

[solid hinge]

unless you're poking at a point 150m away

My longest headshot in bfv so far is only like 159m

[devout rose]

You can base your aiming off something else than relying on a random point in the sky

[solid hinge]

At long range you're more useful spotting than shooting

[fleet mantle]

yeah best way to range is to aim at a point on a wall, fire, see where bullet hits on your crosshair then put that spot on the person

[solid hinge]

The further away they are the more you can spot at once

[devout rose]

Spotting's kind of clunky as well

That spotting challenge was annoying

[gritty grove]

Switching to DX12 seems to have fixed my CPU lag issues, color me extremely surprised

[solid hinge]

Really?

Seems buggy in the good way to me

I spot people behind things all the time

[fleet mantle]

you can adjust the 8x zoom sens slider too to make it easier to pan around with your spotting scope without affecting your other scope sensitivities

[devout rose]

When they are moving, it's harder

Obviously

[fleet mantle]

turning that up to 200% makes using the spotting scope feel less like a chore

[devout rose]

But harder than it should be

[stone brook]

i still get an occasional stutter

[solid hinge]

..you can do that?

[stone brook]

ill drop from like 230 fps to 140

[solid hinge]

on console the spotting scope is slooow

ill definitely turn that up

[fleet mantle]

not positive on console but i bet you can

[devout rose]

Oh yeah

[fleet mantle]

the 8x sens is the one you want for the spotting scope

[solid hinge]

No need for precision when it spots the smallest pixels

[fleet mantle]

all the real scopes are 6x or less so dont get affected

[solid hinge]

Very useful!

[dense bone]

im useful

[solid hinge]

Spot for me, peon

[dense bone]

cant, different system

[solid hinge]

[dense bone]

im sorry

forgive me

[solid hinge]

some sins cannot be forgiven

[dense bone]

is there any way to change the drilling to where whenever i ADS it shoots the rifle round, and anything non ADS shoots shotgun

[jovial forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3xFPjQ9N1g Still amusing to this day

[pale rain]

@solid hinge I might spot for you lol

[jovial forge]

Not giving ammo or heals are true sins

[dense bone]

WHATS SO FUCKING HARD ABOUT SPAMMING 3

[dusky saffron]

just went on a spree

with the mini panzer

its very niceu

[dense bone]

what is mini panzer?

[dusky saffron]

the panzer-3*t

38t

idk

[dense bone]

vehicle?

[dusky saffron]

ye

[mossy badge]

Panzer 38t

The German Light Tank

[icy sluice]

Panzer 38tese nuts

[dusky saffron]

fun tank

[dense bone]

ew

[dusky saffron]

@icy sluice shine

[dense bone]

i dont vehicle

[dusky saffron]

got like 12 kills before dying

[icy sluice]

Shine?

[dusky saffron]

:>

[icy sluice]

Bright?

[dense bone]

twice as bright, half as long

[dusky saffron]

ty zeke

but no that's what I was trying to imply

[dense bone]

i cri evrtim

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

ok first all the war stories on hardcore

[dusky saffron]

why

you don't get anything for them

[solid hinge]

then all the challenges on easy

[dusky saffron]

bad alya

[solid hinge]

there's achievements!

[dusky saffron]

oh wait

on consoles

ye

[solid hinge]

damn straight

[dusky saffron]

no hardcore mode achievement on pc so no need to do it

[solid hinge]

For the sense

Of pride

And accomplishment

[pale rain]

What’s that?

[jovial forge]

I'd rather had achivements that show comminment like, dogtags for playtime, or like something slightly cheesy like the Pancake achivement for falling from a X height

shame the fender bender achievement was stupid easy to do with only having to run over 5 people

Would of prefered atleast 2 more achivements for higher kills by running over someone

[sonic rampart]

Im going for that platinum

But I need to kill enemy stationary guns while in a plane..

Good thing my bombs always land right next to them instead of on them

[dusky saffron]

"I you fucing nobb"

[sonic rampart]

IlL CrAsH mY pLaNe InTo ThEm, TrUsT mE iT wIlL wOrK

[amber notch]

Yeah?

You do that

👍

tell me how it works out for you

[dusky saffron]

"sh ut u fucing nob"

why do people try

[sonic rampart]

You focing wot m8, com at me

F i g h t m e

grabs gun with a bayonet

[solid hinge]

tfw it doesn't tell you what guns are silenced

[sonic rampart]

In war stories?

[solid hinge]

commander carbine is

[dusky saffron]

the commando carbine is silenced

and I want it

[pale rain]

Just look at the end of the gun

[solid hinge]

there's.. other guns that look silenced

[sonic rampart]

Oh in mp

[pale rain]

And see if it has a suppressor lol

[solid hinge]

but im not about to ruin my game because of it

[carmine eagle]

A gun can’t be silenced if it still makes noise

[sonic rampart]

Who needs silenced weapons anyway

[solid hinge]

Me

;_;

[sonic rampart]

Like in bf4 it would reveal your location on the map

[dense bone]

i wonder if silencers will be a thing in firestorm

[sonic rampart]

When you were shooting

[carmine eagle]

That’s why it’s called a suppressor and not a silencer. It still makes noise

[pale rain]

[sonic rampart]

give us a bionical arm

jk lol

[dense bone]

i want the handicapped arm from the trailer as a super rare cosmetic item

[solid hinge]

This is a lot of people to sneak past without any kind of rock to throw

[sonic rampart]

That moment when you wont get damage if you get hit on your bionical AFM

arm

[dense bone]

use it as cap america shield

[sonic rampart]

Dances in firestorm heck yeaaah..

[solid hinge]

Oh ok there's a flamethrower

[sonic rampart]

If that would be a thing, I will cry in a corner

[solid hinge]

Who tanks hits

[pale rain]

And he doesn’t die

[solid hinge]

So much for stealth

.. and my life

[pale rain]

Tried that

Didn’t take me long to stop

[solid hinge]

Ok the ZH isn't suppressed either

fuck

[sonic rampart]

This is so sad

[dense bone]

so seems this disc likes the g43 and zh most for their category?

[sonic rampart]

Never tried semis

[dense bone]

fool

[pale rain]

Wut

You stupid

[dense bone]

most versatile gun in game

[sonic rampart]

Ik lol

But Im maxing my other classes

[little fjord]

I did it

I bayonetted someone in combat

[dense bone]

what a noble stupid thing

[little fjord]

Then meleed his friend

[sonic rampart]

And then died by a supporter in a corner with a mmg

[little fjord]

It's war

[dense bone]

fuck corner mmgs

[solid hinge]

i got seen while I opened the window??

wtf happened to immunity in cutscenes

[sonic rampart]

#bayonetchargethose

[solid hinge]

goddamn

[little fjord]

I'll say this, you sure cover alot of ground with bayonet charge... like they don't need to be very close

[sonic rampart]

Which story?

[solid hinge]

That's just sprinting

First one

[sonic rampart]

You doing challenges

Lol

[solid hinge]

Never done any war stories before

Was attempting the hanger stealth one

[sonic rampart]

If you dont like them only play the last tiger

[solid hinge]

Might just beat them all on hardcore and come back on easy for the rest

[sonic rampart]

^

[solid hinge]

I want those unlcoks

[sonic rampart]

I first tried to do it all at the Same time

But they are glitched....

[dusky saffron]

my germang is so cool

[sonic rampart]

I got a respond tho

But I have to make ss

[dusky saffron]

I really like the uniforms they choose

[solid hinge]

THEY TANK 3 ZH SHOTS

WHAT THE FUCJ JS THIS

[dusky saffron]

wdym

[dense bone]

wtf did you just say

[dusky saffron]

"what do you mean"

[dense bone]

not you...

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

A medic started reviving his mate (scared the shit out of me) and it took 3 zh body shots to kill him

i need a bigger fucking gun

[dense bone]

i thought zh was 3 body at any range?

[solid hinge]

Apparently not in hardcore

[amber notch]

The ZH has always been 2 shots

[solid hinge]

Apparently not in hardcore

[sonic rampart]

Is there a hardcore mode!!

[amber notch]

what?

[sonic rampart]

Since when did they add it in bf5?

[pale rain]

Y’all gonna hate me

[amber notch]

There isnt a hardcore mode

that im aware of

[pale rain]

Just got 4 kills with one piat shot lol

[sonic rampart]

Oh war stories hardcore

Lmao

[amber notch]

The ZH has always been a 2 shot Self loading rifle, same with the selb.

I wouldnt think hardcore mad a difference in damage values

[sonic rampart]

Welcome to hell

^

Only in spotting and health diff

[pale rain]

It shouldn’t be that hard to get 4 headshots in one life in an objective