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midnight nimbus
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the currency system is a great method for unlocks and progression

steep radish
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In this case the currency system actually is better than the one in BFV

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Imo at least

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Some of the best mechanisms in BFH will never be used again

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sad

midnight nimbus
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you're right, because the BFH system actually works πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

steep radish
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lol

midnight nimbus
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BFH is lowkey the best modern BF, despite it not having a BF setting

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it's just a fun shooter

steep radish
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not the best

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But certainly hold up to a pedestal

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Of a good game

midnight nimbus
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I hold it in the same regard as BF3

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in terms of infy play

steep radish
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Vehicle gameplay wasnt much but it was fun as hell

midnight nimbus
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yeah, I enjoyed flying the attack heli

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because it was actually challenging

steep radish
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I enjoyed the cars

midnight nimbus
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small arms were actually a threat

steep radish
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I mean holy shit you ever seen such fast paced destruction in a BF game before?

midnight nimbus
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I don't care for destruction, but BFH did it well

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it didn't ruin the map

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oh: also no nade spam

steep radish
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Didnt ruin it but was in specific places where it could be used to an advantage

midnight nimbus
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even though grenades were insanely powerful

steep radish
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There was nade spam but it was a lot less than

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cough other bf’s

midnight nimbus
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BFH with Ammo 2.0 and good weapon balance would've been πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘ŒπŸ‘Œ

steep radish
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brb

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Fucking loved that game and like you said if some of the faults were ironed out, it would’ve been probably one of the best cops and robbers games

midnight nimbus
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BFH literally needed 5 changes

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  1. remove the BF from the name
  2. drugs as a gadget
  3. let you hold your pistol sideways
  4. BFV spread formula + balanced recoil
  5. Ammo 2.0 from BF1 CTE
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like 9.5/10 FPS

proven pulsar
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Yo guys what should I spend CC points on? Bought the game yesterday

echo sand
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Upgrading your weapons firstly

slow cradle
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That's the short list

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Currently you will not be getting much after reaching rank 50

gray saffron
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yeah, just focus it on the gun perks you like or the vehicle perks you want to use. once you've done that you can spend it on cosmetics etc. just make sure to keep a nice pool of cc in case of new weapons or so.

proven pulsar
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Any weapons you guys recommend on using? Someone recommended KV7 or something last night and been using that lol

gray saffron
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ke7?! D:

compact oxide
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@proven pulsar selbstlader 1906

gray saffron
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to be honest, most weapons are pretty great. it just depends on what you like and prefer. as a support i might like lmg guns like bren, while you might be more leaning towards the ke7. they all have their slight benefits and cons. but no weapon is really inferior to others. just experiment with the ones you unlock and see if you like it or not ;D

proven pulsar
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@oblique parcel assault/support

rotund sentinel
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Do other classes have scope glare?

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...isn't this unfair for scouts

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I mean guns like smle were designed to be anti-sniper

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This is where yet another one Boyfriend 1 is better than boyfriend v

amber notch
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Support has two powerful options for running and gunning, FG42 and the mg42, both super efficient at doing what they are designed to do, the mg42 you have to adapt your playstyle drastically if you want to succeed using it aggressively.
Picking the 1,200rpm perk gives it that much needed rpm it needs to win CQ fights.
Fg42 is your assault rifle for support, extremely powerful and has minimal recoil when modded correctly, it’s a 4 shot kill up to 10 meters and has not much damage fall off, has the highest rpm for any lmg and packs a huge punch.

solid hinge
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May someone give me advices for play with Gewehr 43 making 4 headshots in objective place with no death

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?

amber notch
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Bren and the Lewis gun are two good options for levelling up your support till you get the fg42

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@solid hinge use a 3x

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And aim for the head

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Camp if you have to

solid hinge
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The probkem is: I don’t know good places for camp

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I have good ain

amber notch
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Overlooking points

rotund sentinel
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@ @solid hinge the hanger map

amber notch
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If it’s an issue just sit in B flag playing narvik

solid hinge
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@rotund sentinel which part?

rotund sentinel
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Hanger, C point

solid hinge
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Ah ok

rotund sentinel
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Many places to hide

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Under a plane

jovial cargo
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I like doing those in Breakthrough

amber notch
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Don’t hide under a plane

solid hinge
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Thanks

amber notch
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Do not do that.

solid hinge
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So where @amber notch

amber notch
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On the balcony

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Players run through the doorways so just headshot them then

rotund sentinel
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Keep yourself mobile, actually

amber notch
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Use a 3x because for some reason you don’t get glare with a 3x on anything apart from sniper rifles

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So abuse that

old karma
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Lewis with 3x

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😩

solid hinge
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A lot of snipers’re week

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I want the sweetspot again

rotund sentinel
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Man the G98 one shot kill

amber notch
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Just give me a 6x with the turner

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Thanks

old karma
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Turner is a beast

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M1A1 too

amber notch
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AG better

old karma
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Eh

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in a 1 on 1 it is

amber notch
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Ag is trash

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Don’t use that

old karma
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AG is really good in a 1 on 1

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Anything past that

amber notch
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Wasted my time grinding that gun for nothing

old karma
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not really

solid hinge
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The best semiautomatic is Gewehr 43 of axis and Ag 42 of Allies

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In my opinion

stoic breach
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Looking at support

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I used the 12g auto to get the M30

rotund sentinel
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Damage too low on the AG

amber notch
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No gun is faction locked

stoic breach
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Then M30 to get the FG

rotund sentinel
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unless you want least recoil possible

stoic breach
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I think the AG is just fun

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I dont really care about the damage

rotund sentinel
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You need to make sure you can land at least 4 to 5 shot to get a kill

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Same damage might as well use m1a1

solid hinge
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Is a skill cannon

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I love AG

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And I have good aim

rotund sentinel
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Weird with the G43, it's meant to be more long-range than smle, and yet thru specialization it can have much better hipfire...

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Like insanely good accuracy in CQ for a semi-auto

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And I find it to have better recoil than smle simply cuz it has slower fire rate

solid hinge
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Is there information when the private servers come? Would like to start with clanwars.

proven pulsar
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@amber notch thanks for the tips bruh

amber notch
fading gyro
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Is there any difference between AG and m1a1? They feels the same to me

rotund sentinel
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Bigger mag on m1a1

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And m1a1 has much better hipfire

compact oxide
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Ag is big manhood gun

icy sluice
amber notch
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LMAO

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@icy sluice dip dip potato chip

icy sluice
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Fuck that's another good title.

rotund sentinel
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@icy sluice ROLTFS - rolling on the floor "sanitater!"

wary mason
rotund sentinel
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"Hallo? Sanitater?"

compact oxide
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Wtf

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What did you do to piss that guy off?

amber notch
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He used the selb

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@compact oxide

steep radish
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Epic

compact oxide
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Ah fair, yeah I'd tbag him too

icy sluice
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I keep getting followed on Xbox, it's getting kind of annoying at this point :v

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I was using the STG :v

compact oxide
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It's MY gun

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Sounds like you're too popular

rotund sentinel
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Somebody died by the door and since closing the door is the same key as saving them...did this happen to anybody?

icy sluice
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I accidentally read that as a door killing someone

amber notch
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@compact oxide use that gun again when we play and I’ll Tk you

compact oxide
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Just don't Rez people wesmart

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Sounds like imma have you trying to tk me hide_the_pain_senpai

icy sluice
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There's no ff

amber notch
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Toxic moderator here

compact oxide
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I've got 675 kills with it now, need to get good enough for aggressive play like it used to be with the RSC on bf1

amber notch
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Has 675 kills with a gun that has been out for three weeks

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Wants to use it more aggressively

compact oxide
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I've been on holidays for most of that point

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Also BFV sucks

amber notch
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Drinking VB isn’t a holiday

compact oxide
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(that's my obligatory complaint)

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HOW DARE YOU

stoic breach
compact oxide
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I drink Jack's and coke like a true bogan

stoic breach
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Fucking bogans man

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Think VB is good

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Yeah right

compact oxide
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Tbh all beer is piss

stoic breach
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VB long neck

desert dune
stoic breach
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Shit true

compact oxide
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They should put VB in BFV point

stoic breach
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Like the wine bottle in BF1

compact oxide
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Is that ontopic enough?

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Lol yeah

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But only on the Aussie maps

stoic breach
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Like what

amber notch
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What Aussie maps

stoic breach
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Darwin

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As an Air Superority map

compact oxide
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Hmm, yeah Darwin was bombed I guess

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Why not just change history

stoic breach
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You can buy aboriginal playermodel with BOIN

compact oxide
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Make an ularu map

icy sluice
compact oxide
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Which has been dug out into a fort

amber notch
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The Japanese bombed my home town

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Darwin

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During ww2

compact oxide
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Ewwww

stoic breach
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You live in Darwin

amber notch
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They had no choice

stoic breach
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Haha

compact oxide
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You live in Darwin

amber notch
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Yes I live in the real part of Australia

compact oxide
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RIP

stoic breach
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Lol

amber notch
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Because I was deployed there

stoic breach
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Interesting

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I wonder when Japan are gonna be added

amber notch
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Never

stoic breach
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Damn

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Play WAW

amber notch
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Wonder when the Russian army will be added

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Never

compact oxide
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The next battlefield should be BF6: Australia

stoic breach
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Its just set at the station

compact oxide
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And it's a future war where Australia has a civil war

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No

stoic breach
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It's basically Hardline but with cunts in Commodores hooning

amber notch
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LMAO

compact oxide
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That would be too imbalanced

amber notch
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This guy gets it

stoic breach
compact oxide
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Lol, so just a housos game πŸ˜‰

desert dune
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Emu war? πŸ‘€

amber notch
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Only Australian people understand this talk

stoic breach
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Yeah pretty much

opaque cipher
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Kiwi do too

amber notch
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If they don’t add the Australia camel pack

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I’ll be pissed

compact oxide
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Ewwww kiwis

opaque cipher
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You fucking wot mate

icy sluice
stoic breach
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:(

amber notch
opaque cipher
compact oxide
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I'm not fucking wot, not like you and sheep @opaque cipher πŸ˜‰

opaque cipher
stoic breach
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Culling and selling Kangaroos as food is basically just a silent Kangaroo war

desert dune
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God damn I cannot see a thing in Narvik

compact oxide
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They deserve it though, Roos are dumb af

stoic breach
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Yeah I know

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Rideable roos in Darwin map

compact oxide
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The amount of times we've had them purposefully jump out in front of our cars is insane

stoic breach
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Haha

compact oxide
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My fam has wrecked like 3-4 cars in the last decade (most of them my poor little bro)

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All by Roos

stoic breach
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What kinda cars

desert dune
solid hinge
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Ute's right? πŸ˜„ barbeques with wheels aren;t they? πŸ˜› πŸ˜„

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Soz wil πŸ˜›

compact oxide
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Utes are bad

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It's all about the hot hatchbacks πŸ‘Œ

midnight nimbus
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Australia looks like a really cool place to live, aside from shit internet

icy sluice
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"Oy is that a dingo fucking the corpse of a croc?"

compact oxide
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Yeah internet is a killer

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100mb is the best we have HaHAA thanks Turnball

desert dune
midnight nimbus
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I'll take shit American healthcare in exchange for sweet gigabit

desert dune
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A logical explanation would be an enemy hijacking the car but, DESERTION!?

compact oxide
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It was a tk probs

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It seems if the game bugs out and an ally kills you it counts as desertion

desert dune
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hecking desertion

fierce gale
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how did they nerf throwing knives so much

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you get like 2-3 of them instead of 8

compact oxide
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Because they were a bit over the top?

fierce gale
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Dice loves to release OP shit to get people testing it and to develop hype

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then nerrffff it πŸ˜•

compact oxide
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"hype" more like anger πŸ˜›

stoic breach
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There were 6 knives

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They're bringing the range up to 10m again

solid hinge
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they're also buffing the webley though

midnight nimbus
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it was 13m originally

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Webley buff is gonna be so good

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I'm so excited

solid hinge
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who needs knives when you have max sidearm

compact oxide
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They're buffing the Webley?!

midnight nimbus
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heavily

compact oxide
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Where's these notes?

midnight nimbus
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3BTK range jumps from 10 to 30m

compact oxide
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Holy fuck

midnight nimbus
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4BTK range is doubled

solid hinge
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prepare for smg users to get outgunned by a revolver

midnight nimbus
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2BTK goes from 7m to 12m

compact oxide
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Where's the notes?

midnight nimbus
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big hype

compact oxide
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Where's you get this?

midnight nimbus
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idk man

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drunkzze

compact oxide
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Ahhh

midnight nimbus
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Webley goes from 7BTK min to 5BTK min

stoic breach
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Shit

midnight nimbus
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it's big chungus af

sterile nest
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Anyone recognize this guy? πŸ˜‚

stoic breach
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I meant they were making the knife range longer again

compact oxide
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Knife range longer just means people are gonna start using it again and I don't like

midnight nimbus
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throwing knife should go back to what it was at launch

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with an additional input buffer

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so you can't panic throw

solid hinge
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it's in an odd place

compact oxide
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That or you have to charge the damage

fierce gale
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sucks you cant do long range knife throws

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i thought theyd be so rare it would be fine

solid hinge
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input buffer means you're better off swapping to secondary normally

compact oxide
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Like kills with the syringe

midnight nimbus
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nah charge is gey

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rather just have input buffer

compact oxide
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There's a charge but you can get low damage with spam

solid hinge
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but panic throws suck too

stoic breach
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Knives are harder to use on console

midnight nimbus
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oh like 2HK spam would be sick

stoic breach
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That would be cool

compact oxide
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Unlock:knife spray

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Throw 5 knives at once like a one use shotgun

stoic breach
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The shredder shell

compact oxide
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Also the knives can be changed to shuriken for 3000 boin

solid hinge
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Put a knife between all your fingers

stoic breach
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When Japan is added

compact oxide
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I'd actually be really for skins like that

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Pay money and get the exact same damage and stats knife but it's different shapes

midnight nimbus
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baseball bat + frag nade when

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yeet grenades from 60m away

compact oxide
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Hitting back enemy nades with cricket bat πŸ‘Œ

marble phoenix
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you got the cricket bat?!

stoic breach
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Dude

marble phoenix
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i tried to do the misson once and said nah

midnight nimbus
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BFV already isn't realistic WW2, just make it fun at this point lol

stoic breach
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People have no idea you can throw back grenades

left elm
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I stared at the sun for 1 min straight and now i cant see my tv screen

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fuck sun

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been this way 3 days

midnight nimbus
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you can throw back grenades to team kill people

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it's so fun

stoic breach
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I haven't seen any TK yet

marble phoenix
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toss a frag and keep moving

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so on the toss back you're not there

stoic breach
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No one has thrown back grenades though

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At least not when I've played

compact oxide
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@left elm I stuck my hand in a blender and now I can't feel my fingers.
Fuck blenders

stoic breach
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Also I find popping car tyres really entertaining on Rotterdam

solid hinge
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the problem with throwing back grenades is you can only do it once

marble phoenix
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my new thing is climbing on enemy tanks

compact oxide
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Life hack; being that prink sniper who prones at the end of the trains and sniping people's legs until they die πŸ‘Œ

solid hinge
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I've had grenades come over that I've tried to throw back and it didn't work because a teammate had already thrown it

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Climbing on enemy tanks is hard

compact oxide
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Na not really

solid hinge
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They reverse at 2 miles an hour and ragdoll you through the air

compact oxide
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I've got a vid of me doing it until his turret turning instakilled me

solid hinge
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DEATH

marble phoenix
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yea i got two clips of me climbing them

compact oxide
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But I got in a lot of tbags because any tank that lets you do that is moronic

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Got his attention whilst the squad actually took him out too

marble phoenix
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finally got the medal for the vehicles destroyed maybe last week sometime

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im still learning where each tank's sweet spot is

solid hinge
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They have sweet spots?

marble phoenix
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im just calling it that, but usually its the rear

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i notice on the staghound its like on the side

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hitting them on the sides seems the weakest

solid hinge
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shit

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I'll have to remember that

compact oxide
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Tank fronts are very armoured

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You need to hit the weak points

marble phoenix
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yea head on is a deathwish

compact oxide
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Turret disable is normally great though

solid hinge
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I understand that, but if there's specific weak spots

compact oxide
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You can skirt around and place dynamite willy nilly

marble phoenix
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i go right for the back on most tanks

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yall ps4?

sleek tartan
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One of the changes that really sucked to the Panzerfaust is that they always pretty much now do disables to parts

compact oxide
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I play sniper and medic so I don't touch tanks πŸ‘Œ

marble phoenix
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maybe i shouldve hovered over yall's names first

compact oxide
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PC here 😎

solid hinge
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I play a bit of everything

pale rain
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PS4

solid hinge
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Recon the most out of all the classes

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I'll take a tank if one is up usually

marble phoenix
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word yea im assault all day

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the two gadgets i wished i had are trip wire or a spawn beacon

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i need my recon brethren to have better placement of the beacon

solid hinge
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Assault already gets the best gadgets!

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Apart from beacon

icy sluice
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You think we'll get trip wire as well as S-Mines/Bouncing Betties?

marble phoenix
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i be seeing them in the middle of the alley on Rotterdamn

solid hinge
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Sometimes I slap one down real quick if there's no time to disengage and place it in a better spot

marble phoenix
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i think im confusing the boucning betty with the trip wire

icy sluice
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AP-Mine also goes by the name S-Mine or Bouncing Betty

marble phoenix
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see thats why i need to part up with a recon player

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we flank the map and place it in a bush behind enenmy lines lol

solid hinge
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beacons are ridiculously useful

marble phoenix
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then time to party

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and yup its the ap mine

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that im thinking of

icy sluice
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I'm kinda used to calling them S-Mines

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You can call them by those three names pretty much

compact oxide
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I swear they buffed the audio static range of the beacons

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I've had multiple times I've been ages away from one and heard it

icy sluice
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Oh yeah, I heard an enemy spawn beacon and destroyed it

compact oxide
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I'm not complaining though 🀷

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I just use mines because I'm a selfish scout damn_DABniel

icy sluice
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I use spawn beacons majority of the time.

marble phoenix
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Man I know people like to bash this game. But I’m having an amazing time playing

solid hinge
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They deserve a nerf honestly

marble phoenix
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And it ain’t even been out two months yet

solid hinge
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They're too good at the moment

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Beacons > mines 99% of the time

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Mines are more useful for point defence

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And that falls to support usually

marble phoenix
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Do the mines stay placed after death?

solid hinge
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They stay until you place more or they explode

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Kinda unfair really

pliant geyser
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no

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its perfectly fair

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your allowed a max number of deployed mines

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place more and the oldest one disappears

solid hinge
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Sometimes I'll play support at the start of a round and slap some mines down and 15 minutes later I'll get a phantom kill from them

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is the max number more than 2?

pliant geyser
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max of 3 is not good enough imo , there should be a support class that specilizes in mines letting you deploy a max of 8 like in past games

solid hinge
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you get 3??

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holy shit

icy sluice
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Rotterdam break through first sector.... break out the MG42 and get like 30 kills :p

pliant geyser
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you start with 1

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but you can deploy a max of 3

solid hinge
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yeah

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that's why I only use them on support

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cause the ammo crate

pliant geyser
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so using an ammo box you can have max of 3 mines around

solid hinge
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well now

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that certainly makes things more useful

fading gyro
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@pliant geyser yarp

pliant geyser
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think BF2 you could have max of 8

solid hinge
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I'm still waiting to unlock the mg42

pliant geyser
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then again bf2 was way bigger maps

fading gyro
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I usually place one, hit the big ammo refill, then place two more

stoic breach
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I'm lvl 19 support, so close to MG42

solid hinge
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And marvel at my total lack of CC to upgrade it

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;_;

fading gyro
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@stoic breach be patient with the mg42, you have to completely re-learn how to engage

spice flower
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any date announced for next content patch yet?

solid hinge
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pick 1200rpm and use it as a better suomi

icy sluice
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I think completing assignments gives you cc

marble phoenix
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yea it gives you cc

stoic breach
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Yeah

fading gyro
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@solid hinge Even at range in normal fire mode, the 1200rof upgrade is still better. You don’t need to be sitting in one spot long enough to be sitting on 250 rounds anyway

marble phoenix
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with the tides of war starting 1/16

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maybe either right before that

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or the day of

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patch/update wise ^^^

icy sluice
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Considering that there will be instances of fighting like 3-6 guys at once with the MG42, I highly suggest 250 rounds

fading gyro
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Yep, there were times where 250 came in handy

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But overall, the higher rate of fire has felt more useful

spice flower
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I think we will be seeing a lot more MGs after the bipods have been fixed πŸ˜ƒ

fading gyro
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They should give special tags or something to those who gilded the mg42 prior to bipod fix

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That was a slog.

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Lewis was way easier

stoic breach
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My friend has a golden MG34

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Its just weird

icy sluice
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I got it golden too

stoic breach
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I'm a higher Support rank than him and he's a support main

pliant geyser
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mg34 is great

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nice and accurate

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and the damage drop off makes it useful even at long range

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the mg42 should be its real life 1500 rpm

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the standard fire mode should be 1200

stoic breach
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Devastating

tribal ledge
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Which upgarde path would you recommend for the Lewis Gun?

tropic igloo
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could you send a pic so I can see what the upgrade list is?

strong parrot
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1500rpm would make you cry op instantly

tropic igloo
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I'm not on my pc with BFV to check rn

strong parrot
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I think people usually go through the bigger drum upgrade

tropic igloo
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^^^^

strong parrot
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But idk first and last

tropic igloo
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it helps so much, and there is no overheating

solid hinge
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Assignments give cc but not ENOUGH

tropic igloo
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use a 3x, get the drum upgrade, and anything that reduces recoil

solid hinge
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If I have to get a level 5 gun to get assignments then i need to upgrade the gun to make it not shit

main meteor
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man. does anyone else think BF5 is unbalanced?

solid hinge
#

This requires cc

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So I lose out unless i suffer through assignments with a non-upgraded gun

#

@main meteor me

main meteor
#

like... honestly. its kind of a mess atm

sonic rampart
#

Hmm

main meteor
#

at this rate i wont even be around for the battle royale mode

strong parrot
#

Yes because there's no way a smle is better than a m1a1 or g1-5 LUL

solid hinge
#

at close range it IS

#

it's a three shot kill at close range and you can shoot six times in a second

stoic breach
#

It's weird cause you guys say the Turner is god gun but hardly anyone uses it on xbox

strong parrot
#

But then close range you are just exasperating the issue of fighting close with only 10 roundswoahthink

solid hinge
#

i get deleted by it all the time on ps4

#

You get a 3 man kill with the regular mag

#

If you pick extended you can get a 6 man kill

strong parrot
#

I mean I still finish top 3 on the team if not first every time I use it so not like I'm trash

stoic breach
#

I feel like some weapon balance makes guns feel useless compared to others

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Or pointless

strong parrot
#

Yeah

solid hinge
#

it's not like the GUN sucks either

stoic breach
#

I can't tell what the EMP or Bren are for

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Or the G1-5

solid hinge
#

half the smgs are dodgy

stoic breach
#

All are

solid hinge
#

g1-5 has a three shot kill at clooose range with a 31 mag

sonic rampart
#

Which class is the turner?

solid hinge
#

so it has that going for it

strong parrot
#

Assault

solid hinge
#

@sonic rampart assault

stoic breach
#

I like the G1-5 alot

sonic rampart
#

Never heard of that gun

solid hinge
#

all the semis are assault

#

Turner smle

stoic breach
#

G1-5 has pistol damage at range

strong parrot
#

Scout has semithonk

solid hinge
#

Slrs!

sonic rampart
#

Lol tbh havent used a semi on assault

icy sluice
#

Model 8

sonic rampart
#

K nvm

solid hinge
#

Why would you not use the best weapons on assault

sonic rampart
#

Wait

#

Thats on the recon

icy sluice
#

When we getting extended mags for itmad

stoic breach
#

I hate using weapons that feel "easy" to me

#

Idk

solid hinge
#

No extended mag for slr

#

Evil

strong parrot
#

Mk11 when

stoic breach
#

SLR's are med-long range

#

No need for extended mag

strong parrot
#

There's always need for more mag

#

Fact of life

stoic breach
#

Then again

strong parrot
#

Wish the selb was more than 5 rounds..

stoic breach
#

I only use bolt action at range

#

Selb was 3BTK in BF1

#

2BTK is a good spot

solid hinge
#

There's two selbs

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Selb 1906 is a 2 shot slr

#

Selb 1916 is a three shot semi

stoic breach
#

Hardly anyone uses the 1916

#

On xbox

main meteor
#

why does it keep saying that there are transport vehicles at spawn points and then when you spawn there is nothing there? this game needs more motorbikes or something.

stoic breach
#

Its a bug

main meteor
#

of course it is

solid hinge
#

Very slow firing but big mag

stoic breach
#

The game was made in 2 years so its a bit yeah

solid hinge
#

and highest semi damage

main meteor
#

so many damn bugs

bitter umbra
#

What is BTK?

solid hinge
#

bullets to kill

stoic breach
#

Bullets to kill

bitter umbra
#

Thanks.

strong parrot
#

Apparently if someone took a transport but it wasn't destroyed..it stays alive for ever and thus a new one doesn't spawn

solid hinge
#

^

strong parrot
#

Which is annoyingOMEGALUL

stoic breach
#

That makes alot of sense

solid hinge
#

ive seen them scattered around in the middle of fucking nowhere for ages

#

it's like their live time is 10 minutes

strong parrot
#

People said oh spawn at the point and wait if it shows a vehicle... but now that's even wrong

woven lake
#

jackfrags new video bft class has cloves

#

which skin is that

strong parrot
#

Dead man's hand?

azure lark
#

hello

dense bone
#

hola

solid hinge
#

dice fix lod bias pls

#

I wanna hide behind bushes again

azure lark
#

Nice to see a core gameplay designer responding to a few reddit posts today

#

I'm anxious to read the 10+ pages of patch notes

dense bone
#

was there an update yesterday?

#

i saw something one jumping and grabbing ledges from a distance

#

and noticed it for the first time yesterday

azure lark
#

those jumping and vaulting improvements are slated to be in the January patch with the bipod deployment fixes coming at a later date.

dense bone
#

but it did it for me yesterday, took a long time to pull up

azure lark
#

Getting headshot kills in objective areas with the m1a1 carbine is such a big pain in the ass lol

dense bone
#

try doing it with the slrs...

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for the m1a1 it took me 1 game, for the 1-5 it took me like 5 games

azure lark
#

Like the Selbstadler 1906?

dense bone
#

to get 10 obj headshots with the model 8 took like 10 games, i dont think im gonna get the 20 for the final

#

yea like 1906

#

1906 is in a slightly better scenario since it has more range

#

but still

azure lark
#

I got the 1906 all gold yesterday. I grinded it out until I triggered the hidden counter

#

requiring two headshots to get the headshot kill was infuriating me

quasi aspen
#

Guys can I switch to chase camera in a plane passenger seat? FPP in a plane is making me sick

azure lark
#

I used a spot on Fjell conquest that was across from cabins to get my kills

dense bone
#

the problem with model 8 is that they dont give you a short range scope, but its a short range slr

azure lark
#

now that the 1906 is all gold, I can go back to just hitting people twice from any distance and kill them

quasi aspen
#

Use iron sight on model8 πŸ€₯

strong parrot
#

Mfw I wouldn't get another 9hs kills while on an object again with the smle

dense bone
#

so using irons on a 200 rof game up close basically means you gotta land body then headshot, otherwise youre dead

#

i do use irons

#

its the only option

#

but i want nydar

strong parrot
#

And I only needed one more for my last mint assignmentsad rip

quasi aspen
#

Absolute mad lad iron sight pro

azure lark
#

lol, been down that one more kill but too late road before

solid hinge
#

poor recon

dense bone
#

i just want nydar for my model 8

#

why doesnt it get a nydar?

azure lark
#

I like getting pissed off at my team for dominating instead of making the round last longer to achieve assignements

dense bone
#

^

solid hinge
#

because obviously you want a 6x scope on it instead @dense bone

dense bone
#

that happened all the time

#

right ayla?

solid hinge
#

why would you want a close range scope on the shortest range recon weapon

azure lark
#

I sympathize with snipers but every time I get one shotted by a bolt action rifle, I no longer give a rats ass about your scope glare problems lol

dense bone
#

slrs arent 1 shot at all

#

bolts are

#

but it is bs that recon gets glint at 3x while no other classes do

azure lark
#

it's bullshit they get guns that kill in one shot and no other classes do

#

πŸ˜›

dense bone
#

only for headshots

#

which is the way it should be

strong parrot
#

Mg42 kills in one shotOMEGALUL

hardy dawn
#

Somebody buy me the game i give back money on end of month and 10%+ ( so like 35 euro instead of 30) pls pls guys!

dense bone
#

i dont use bolts at all, but ive never felt ripped off by a sniper in my 40ish hours of gameplay

strong parrot
#

And by one shot I mean one frame because there's so many rounds coming at you

warm obsidian
#

Ew

dense bone
#

snipers in general are not a problem, only the few good model 8 users ive come across

azure lark
#

well, when trying to get the 1906 gold, I cussed up a storm everytime I got one shotted when I was using a gun that requires two. The assignment made me jaded lol

dense bone
#

thats why slrs are kinda weak, and the assignments are stupid AF

#

0 benefit to headshots for slrs and yet they make you go for them

azure lark
#

Personally, I'd like to see gold skin sets for weapons be available for purchase with company coin, just make them expensive. But then they would need to fix the company coin issue lol. Get rid of assignments unless they're reworked with the weapon in mind. A gun with headshot assignments that's not meant for headshot kills is pretty lame.

dense bone
#

nah keep gold behind earning them

azure lark
#

well, at least show the hidden tracker that seems to exist. The way some of the assignments are worded makes it seem like they're impossible. But if you grind away at them, eventually they unlock. At least people would know that you can achieve it with a significant time investment as opposed to have the stars align to get it done in one life or round.

crystal summit
#

Any patches today?

dense bone
#

theres more than 1 way to get them?

azure lark
#

Yeah, most have a hidden tracker. No one knows for sure but the guess is 60 total kills.

crystal summit
#

I want my gosh dang company coins

azure lark
#

either that or they're bugged out

dense bone
#

so youre suggesting that if i get 60 headshots in obj in total on the model 8 it will get the last gold?

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even though they dont mention a total

azure lark
#

like I said, I grinded out the last mastery assignment for the 1906 and didn't achieve it in one round or life. I got a handful of assignment kills and after about 7 or 8 games, I got it unlocked assuming there was a hidden tracker

crystal summit
#

You know what's bugged as hell. Sticky grenades. They like are magnitized to walls even if ur trying to throw them down a hall or threw a door.

azure lark
#

It also explains how people play the game normally and after a period of time, the assignment is achieved,

dense bone
#

hmm

#

other than the model 8 i have gotten all my golds unlocked the stated assignment way

azure lark
#

you're a baller then

#

πŸ˜›

dense bone
#

with the model 8 i was playing a match i didnt think i got 10 headshots, but it was unlocked

#

so that might have been hiddenly unlocked

azure lark
#

Also, I still haven't been able to figure out if three matches in Grand Ops all counts as one round or three separate rounds.

dense bone
#

^

#

model 8 was where i got my 10hsobj kills

#

and i would get like 8 hs obj kills each ROUND

azure lark
#

The trackers reset after each day but the trackers themselves are known to be bugged

#

I don't know what's not bugged

#

πŸ˜„

dense bone
#

so the problem with me is that i MIGHT have actually did 10 in a single round in grand ops, it could count 1 grand ops as a round, or i could have finished a secret total counter..

azure lark
#

yeah

dense bone
#

i guess ill grind it out and see what happens

azure lark
#

yep

#

that's what I'm doing with the carbine though I only get about 1-3 headshot kills while on objectives with that thing

dense bone
#

i stopped using model 8 because i dont thnk i could get 20hs obj kills in a round and went to gold everything else

azure lark
#

it's a long grind

dense bone
#

the easiest for me was in C and D at aerodrome

azure lark
#

the funnest gun to gold for me was the mg42. melting people is so satisfying.

dense bone
#

i think ill swear to myself to never use that gun

strong parrot
#

Was there even a hard part of a gold mg42?

azure lark
#

no, it was pretty easy for me. I picked a spot across from cabins on the hillside in Fjell conquest and melted people coming around the hill to take the point

#

felt lame but I had a few good laughs

dense bone
#

thats how i feel using the lewis gun

#

that thing...

#

accurate moving ads, accurate bipod, 47 rounds default

azure lark
#

lewis gun is awesome with the right loadout tree. You can hipfire at distance and put 5-7 rounds into someone with burst fire

#

it's incredibly versatile

dense bone
#

i think im LRRL

fading gyro
#

Yeah, gilding the Lewis was so freaking easy

#

And it looks great too

azure lark
#

I'm RRRL

dense bone
#

i dont remember what first R was, but i know first L is faster ads and i do that for everything

azure lark
#

Quick aim

#

whoops

#

It's high velocity bullets

dense bone
#

yea i went LRRL

azure lark
#

Ported barrel, Barrel bedding, recoil buffer

dense bone
#

dont need bullets to travel faster

#

thats my flanking gun

#

i dont bipod at all unless its an assignment

azure lark
#

I'm anxious for the bipod deployment fix because it's rough watching the gun go from bipod to hipfire constantly because it can't find the right surface

#

also it going out of bipod automatically has killed me a few times

strong parrot
#

Fun isn't it

dense bone
#

as someone who generally hates bipods, i wish they wouldnt fix it

strong parrot
#

Teammates running past your prone body disrupts it

dense bone
#

yea they kicked it

azure lark
#

these people on the subreddit who post killstreak clips, are they playing on console? It's like many of those players have no idea what they're doing and I don't see as much of that on PC.

dense bone
#

just watch for button prompts or hair their aim works

strong parrot
#

Lol it definitely seems like console players are less aware in every video I see posted

dense bone
#

console usually has very straight movements

strong parrot
#

But then you have people like stodeh who stands in the open with a sniper and is ignoredpicard

dense bone
#

yea watching stodeh and i always think "why arent my enemies this dumb?"

strong parrot
#

Lmao.. I yeah

#

EU people?woahtea

dense bone
#

i mean, he flanks which helps to begin with

#

but, they never look at hime

#

granted, he probably plays a ton and this isnt ALWAYS the case

strong parrot
#

I mean sometimes he's like right there obvious in the open shooting

dense bone
#

is he euro?

azure lark
#

nice to see folks actually using the voice channels in the discord to play

#

I should try that sometime

#

I don't drive tanks or planes though, I'm strictly infantry or a gunner

dense bone
#

yea im getting bored of playing solo

#

add me on origen, OrangeFeffy

sleek trail
#

any news on the patch lads?

dense bone
#

@sleek trail if something comes up it will usually show up in #game-news pretty quick

azure lark
#

from what I've read, there is expected to be a patch near the day of the new tides of war chapter

#

nothing confirmed that I've seen about it

dense bone
#

next ToW is the 16th right?

azure lark
#

I promised myself after BF3 that I'd never purchase another BF game as I thought EA ruined the franchise and yet, here I am.

#

Yeah, 16th

dense bone
#

bfv is 2nd to bf4

sleek trail
#

@dense bone thanks

azure lark
#

Been around since the 1942 days and honestly, I'd love to see them revisit the concept of a true battlefield

#

Naval, air, infantry, vehicles, all in one map. You choose how you want to do battle

#

Even with that said, I had the most fun in Vietnam and BF2 but I gave a few thousand hours to BC2 and was hoping for a BC3

dusky saffron
#

tow is on the 16th but the patch is coming before

#

I just wanna see what's being fixed in the pages

dense bone
#

i just want assault semi nerfs, assault explosives nerfed against infantry, bipod nerfs, and generall accuracy nerfs against assault and support

azure lark
#

That's another thing I miss about the good ole days of gaming. Mods.

strong parrot
#

Back when devs wanted you to modify their games BibleThump

dense bone
#

imo one of the reasons recon is one of the weakest classes is because other classes are almost as accurate

dusky saffron
#

"lets gut assault and support"

#

n o

#

just buff other classes

#

give recon more gadgets

#

give medic lever actions ahan

solid hinge
#

Any idea when and if BFV will have private servers?

azure lark
#

I haven't read anything about that but do you want to play on servers where special people can ban and kick you out based on made up circumstances?

#

Granted, if they pay the bills, they can do what they want. I guess it comes down to choice.

crystal totem
#

recon is weak because assault has 3x with no glint

#

and recon has dick all for gadgets

stoic breach
#

Assault semis only have damage dropoff at range which does fuck all for the M1A1

azure lark
#

the flare gun doesn't cover enough ground and only having one to shoot is lame. Spawn beacon and ability to spawn on any beacon is boss though

crystal totem
#

thats the only gadget recon should ever have

azure lark
#

but if you run into armor, you're screwed lol

crystal totem
#

as it is now

#

if bolt actions were body shot kills then it would change

stoic breach
#

Flare is getting buffed

crystal totem
#

their rof sucks, their ammo cap sucks, the sustain is none existent their utility is 0

#

there's a laundry list of why recon is ass

azure lark
#

yeah, they said they were going to look at the glare issues.

stoic breach
#

1 shot body shot is OP

#

Look at BF1

proven pagoda
#

Flare should have something like a 25-30% radius buff

crystal totem
#

when you get 5 rounds in your rifle, it takes 10 years to reload and you have a max ammo cap of 20 rounds?

proven pagoda
#

but I like its current implementation

crystal totem
#

is it REALLY op? lol

#

make 3x and 6x recon class only

proven pagoda
#

@crystal totem People are going to say assault should have glare

#

but the real answer is to just not have glare at all

#

glare is an outdated ass mechanic

stoic breach
#

6x and 10x glare is good

proven pagoda
#

even then no

#

glare is just bad

stoic breach
#

No scope glare buffs campers

proven pagoda
#

who cares

dusky saffron
#

current glare is just not that good

#

and it's put in unfairly

proven pagoda
#

it also nerfs the shit out of anyone who actaully wants to use a sniper rifle

#

regardless of their usage

stoic breach
#

No it doesn't

proven pagoda
#

yes it does

stoic breach
#

3x glare does

proven pagoda
#

so does 6x

crystal totem
#

there is absolutely no reason to use recon when assault has rifles thatdo the same amount of damage with 3x scopes and have no glint

#

end of story

azure lark
#

I think it would be hilarious if they made all 3x scopes glare. So many spotlights walking around

stoic breach
#

They should remove 3x glare from Recon

#

Leave 6x and 10x

proven pagoda
#

If anything

glad lichen
#

3x Glare should be removed.

proven pagoda
#

3x glare should be removed

stoic breach
#

Yes

proven pagoda
#

but also 6x should be nerfed

#

it should be a small spec of light that gives them away IF YOU'RE ARE PAYING ATTENTION

glad lichen
#

Also they should add a bolt action that can one shot but make it so it can't be scoped.

dusky saffron
#

glare is just a png that needs to be smaller

proven pagoda
#

not just broadcast your location to everyone halfway playing

glad lichen
#

Like the Martini

dusky saffron
#

"one shot"

glad lichen
#

Bolt Actions are hellish to play with iron sights.

dusky saffron
#

so you want sweet spot back in

stoic breach
#

If you're getting killed by glare at the back of the map it's your fault

proven pagoda
#

No BFV rifle should one shot

glad lichen
#

For me anyway

dusky saffron
#

yikes

azure lark
#

just use the 2X πŸ˜„

glad lichen
#

Not sure if that's right @dusky saffron

dusky saffron
#

Yes it is right

proven pagoda
#

I get killed by it in medium range @stoic breach

dusky saffron
#

if you're up close to the martini

#

it does 80

#

far away

#

does less

stoic breach
#

That's like 3x glare range

dusky saffron
#

only in a certain range would it one shot

#

and that's the sweet spot

dense bone
#

not asking to gut assault and support, but they are definitely the strongest

glad lichen
#

@azure lark is the 2x not only for the Selbslalsadederer?

dense bone
#

and their range is ridiculous

proven pagoda
#

Support doesnt need nerfs 100%

stoic breach
#

As a recon main I would like to keep glare for 6x and 10x in

proven pagoda
#

assault just needs minor ones

#

medic and recon just need buffs

azure lark
#

Oh, maybe you're right. My bad.

dusky saffron
#

if anything, assault needs turner nerfs

#

and that's it

#

πŸ™ƒ

dense bone
#

they need range nerfs imo

glad lichen
#

Alt I meant have a rifle that is a one shot to the chest regardless of range but can't be scoped or zero'd

proven pagoda
#

What is wrong with the Turner? @dusky saffron

dense bone
#

they are effective from way to far away

dusky saffron
#

It's recoil can be virtually zero

crystal totem
#

assault shouldnt have 3x imo

proven pagoda
#

Thats not a fun game @glad lichen

#

BFV should never have a one shot rifle

dense bone
#

thats why we are all challenging recons at far range

crystal totem
#

neither should support

proven pagoda
#

ever

glad lichen
#

@azure lark I'm sure it's just the 2 ToW Semis that have it yeah.

stoic breach
#

Snipers should be 1BTK in extreme close range

dusky saffron
#

btw

stoic breach
#

If I'm next to someone I don't expect to tag them 55

dusky saffron
#

next tow is gonna have 2 medic weapons and 2 lmg weapons

stoic breach
#

Oo

dusky saffron
#

1 recon and 1 assault

azure lark
#

2x scope is nice but I wish I could slap it on assualt guns πŸ˜›

dense bone
#

snipers 1btk short range just introduces quick scoping, no please

proven pagoda
#

No

#

Snipers should be ineffective up close

#

not out-damage assault

pastel jolt
#

A one-shot rifle would be fine if the headshot box wasn't absurd.

stoic breach
#

If you can quickscope thats more power to you

dusky saffron
#

I have no problems with the headshot box

proven pagoda
#

BFV's attrition system is too punishing for one shot rifles to exist

glad lichen
#

@proven pagoda then we need an SLR with a larger clip and better fire rate. Otherwise PTFO Recon is completely redundant compared to Assualt Semis.

dense bone
#

@proven pagoda so you dont want snipers effective close, but fine with support effective at range?

proven pagoda
#

you already one shot plenty of people now because of attrition

#

yes? @dense bone

#

Support and Recon should hard counter each other

dusky saffron
#

use your bayonet if someone is too close

stoic breach
#

Hahaha

proven pagoda
#

If the support is already shooting at you the recon should lose

glad lichen
#

lmao

dense bone
#

....

#

not at recon range

proven pagoda
#

at 3x range yes

#

not 6x no

stoic breach
#

Suppression was reduced to stop LMGs from being annoying to snipers

dense bone
#

but they are at 6x

proven pagoda
#

I'm referring to MMGs

#

not LMGs

crystal totem
#

why does support even get 3x?

solid hinge
#

@azure lark I help run a big community and it sucks having to have some people wait 30 minutes to join a game. Would like to own a private server so that we can play together

glad lichen
#

Love running a flag with the bolty, getting a sick chest hit marker then melted.

stoic breach
#

Yeah

marble phoenix
#

shoutout the recon with the 1v1 fire fight skills...once i close the distance on you

proven pagoda
#

MMGs should fuck up recons big time

dense bone
#

support and assault challenge recon at everything but EXTREME ranges

stoic breach
#

Quickscoping should work in pistol range

dense bone
#

thats bs imo

proven pagoda
#

you should have very little counterplay to getting hit by a MG42

dusky saffron
#

one shot in this game is not a good idea

glad lichen
#

Everyon fucks up recons big time.

stoic breach
#

Actually closer than pistol

proven pagoda
#

There is no reason as of right now that recons can even fire back nonetheless headshot MMG users

glad lichen
#

Maybe not one shot

stoic breach
#

Like if you point-blank someone with a full power bullet

dense bone
#

because mmg users shouldnt be effective at such high ranges

stoic breach
#

They would just droo

glad lichen
#

But at least give use and SLR that can compete in gun fights.

stoic breach
#

Drop

dusky saffron
#

I disagree

dense bone
#

hence why they shoud reduce range for assault and support

dusky saffron
#

I use SLR pretty well

azure lark
#

Private servers for community's like yours would be cool. I remember those back in the BF2 and 1942 days.

proven pagoda
#

I think we have different definitions of range Nython

#

Nyphon*

dusky saffron
#

I drag scope people with it and it feels lit

glad lichen
#

Maybe you are better than me

dusky saffron
#

probably tbh πŸ™ƒ

glad lichen
#

Doesn't invalidate my opinion

dusky saffron
#

but SLR is in like

#

a special place

azure lark
#

all the players generally knew each other and hung out there during the week

proven pagoda
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Assault and Support should have the range they do now 100%

stoic breach
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Lee-Enfield with Iron is good for Recon ptfo

proven pagoda
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the guns are rifles and LMGs

dusky saffron
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2 btk but lacks headshot potential and bullets

proven pagoda
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not shotguns

dense bone
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where does recon have clear advantage over other classes?

dusky saffron
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Spawn beacon

proven pagoda
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I am not saying you can't buff recon

crystal totem
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then their damage falloffs need to be buffed across the board for support and assault

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neither of which should even have 3x optics

proven pagoda
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I'm saying they shouldn't nerf the range of the other classes to artificially buff recon

glad lichen
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Alt you can't surely argue its fairly matched with the 3 shot semis?

dusky saffron
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I mean it depends

dense bone
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but when their range is too long in the first place...

dusky saffron
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ADAD works out for me

proven pagoda
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No

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just buff recon

glad lichen
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Recon should be buffed by buffing the Recon kit.

proven pagoda
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especially recon SLRs

azure lark
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I like rekking snipers with the G 1-5

dusky saffron
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maybe I can find footage since everyone usually uses a predictable moving pattern

dense bone
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seriously, everything but smgs are SUPER effective at range

proven pagoda
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as they should be

dense bone
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lol no

crystal totem
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lol

proven pagoda
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you can disagree

dusky saffron
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"balanced, as everything should be"

proven pagoda
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but this game actually feels proper

dusky saffron
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snap

glad lichen
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Give recon a 3 shot SLR with comparable stats to Gewehr

proven pagoda
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BF1 was heavily artifically balanced

glad lichen
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And lose the 3x glint

azure lark
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Or do we want to go back to the days of sniper has to get beat by an opposing sniper?

dusky saffron
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no lets bring back sweet spot l m a o

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πŸ™ƒ

crystal totem
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recon right now has no place in the game

dusky saffron
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spawn beacon

proven pagoda
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So give them a place

dense bone
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i think people are too comfortable picking assault and support because they really dont suffer at any range

crystal totem
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keeping assault and support as is insures the same meta

proven pagoda
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instead of taking away other's place

stoic breach
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Recon is the only class with noticeable bullet drop

dense bone
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other than EXTREME ranges

glad lichen
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No one suggested bringing sweet spot.

azure lark
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didn't other BF games give the recon class like a carbine or something so they can play aggressive?

kind mirage
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is there any other youtuber that makes good bf content other than jackfrags

dusky saffron
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at least Recon keeps their damage over the travel time

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Jackfrags is not that great of a youtuber

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imo

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he beats around the bush

proven pagoda
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BF3 and BF4 gave them PDWs and Carbines respectively @azure lark

glad lichen
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Is the G1-5 any good? I'm unlocking it soon.

dusky saffron
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G1-5

crystal totem
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it doesnt matter if recon holds the bulletenergy because by the time their bolt action fires one round the assault or support can fire 10

dense bone
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you go from smgs that cant really work outside of 30m well, to rifles, lmgs, mmgs, and semis that challenge recon at range, theres hardly any middle ground

dusky saffron
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is very lit upclose

glad lichen
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Seems hard to beat the 26 round mag of the Selb?

proven pagoda
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I think recons should do 65-85 damage

dusky saffron
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3-shot btk with a 30 mag

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nah

azure lark
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I prefer it over the STG44. Single shot is more controllable and bullets have more stopping fire

dense bone
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g1-5 is imo the best overall gun

dusky saffron
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Assault Selb is lesser

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Yeah

proven pagoda
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but you shouldn't nerf assault and support to make recons better

glad lichen
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G1-5 has 30 rounds?

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Dayum

crystal totem
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there's literally no other way

dusky saffron
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ye

crystal totem
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because assault and support range is ridiculous

dusky saffron
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I would put it above the G43

dense bone
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im not saying to make recons better, thats just an added benefit

proven pagoda
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This is the first game support actaully feels good

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to me

glad lichen
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I didn't realise

dusky saffron
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but G43 has better range

glad lichen
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das tight

dense bone
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their range is fucking absurd

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period

proven pagoda
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What guns

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you obviously don't mean support

glad lichen
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Assault is the best Recon class.

proven pagoda
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you mean specific guns

dense bone
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LOL

proven pagoda
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so which ones

azure lark
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I get killed by G43 alot and when i use it, i throw it in the trash

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lol

dense bone
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only thing that isnt good at range on support are certain high rof guns OUTSIDE of bipod

glad lichen
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I get killed most by the Turner, Sten, G43, and KE7

proven pagoda
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ok which guns are an issue

glad lichen
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But I can only use the G43

azure lark
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I can't stand the 25 round clip in the KE7

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it's not enough for me

glad lichen
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Sten is my 1 frame TTD gun

dense bone
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exactly what i just said

glad lichen
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But I can't make it happen.

proven pagoda
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If you say "all of them"

azure lark
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the Lewis gun is perfect

proven pagoda
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we're just not going to have a discussion

dense bone
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did i just say al of them?

proven pagoda
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because that's just false

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yes you did

crystal totem
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lmao

proven pagoda
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thanks

dense bone
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did you not read what i said?

proven pagoda
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I did

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and you said pretty much all of them

dense bone
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obviously you didnt comprehend

azure lark
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Also, that Ribeye gun is a freaking laser

proven pagoda
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You just said "not the MMGs"

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which I know you think those are too good too

dense bone
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mg42, worst gun of support for accuracy, bipod it, youre good t go

stoic breach
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Ribey is good as

crystal totem
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when you outsnipe snipers with your machine guns and lmgs beyond 3x range consistently then there is a problem

stoic breach
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I like how it's a slow ROF

proven pagoda
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MMGs should fuck up recons hard

crystal totem
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while spraying

glad lichen
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75% of my deaths are a result of missing my shots, it's painfully frustrating, I have great reactions and decent game senses but I miss so many fucking bullets.

proven pagoda
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You're getting shot at 770-1200 RPM

stoic breach
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MMGs are meant to be suppressive and defensive

proven pagoda
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fuck off if you want to shoot back, you don't get to