battlefield-legacy-titles

[dusky saffron]

I like snapping to people for melee kills

helps me kill bayonet users

🙃

[solid hinge]

im gonna kill whoever decided a fucking jack knife has longer range than a bayonet

[dusky saffron]

tfw no "f to counter" bayonets

[brittle imp]

Haha

[dusky saffron]

[brittle imp]

Bayonet spammers are mad

And I love it

[dusky saffron]

I use bayonet but I'm good with it uvu

[solid hinge]

All you have to do is walk about 10cm to the side

They'll just slide off you

[icy sluice]

Bayonet is kinda weird in this game

[brittle imp]

Learn2aim

[dusky saffron]

They nerfed bayonet hard regardless

so ackshully

it takes skill

to use bayonet

:>

[solid hinge]

I've ran into stationary targets with bayonet and it's cancelled instead of killing them

There's only so much aiming I can do

[dusky saffron]

aim more

[solid hinge]

Does it want me to point the crosshair at their heart to guarantee a kill

[dusky saffron]

well ye

[solid hinge]

Well

They're gonna have to make the heart hitbox stop moving

[dusky saffron]

get knifed

[brittle imp]

Ayla bayonets were way 2 ezmode in bf1

[dusky saffron]

[brittle imp]

Dont deny it

[dusky saffron]

no they weren't lmao

[brittle imp]

Yes they were

[solid hinge]

They made your gun shitter though

[wind pendant]

trying to bayonet through rib cage

[brittle imp]

People spammed them all the time

[dusky saffron]

only thing good about them was chain killing

[wind pendant]

go for the gut when bayonetting

[dusky saffron]

and they nerfed that

[brittle imp]

I am fine with bayonet nerf

Perfectly fine

[solid hinge]

I'd be fine with it if it didn't have hitreg issues

[dusky saffron]

so what were the bayonet nerfs

[brittle imp]

It only effects weebs like ayla

[solid hinge]

I don't want a 50% chance of it failing

I'm not a WEEB

[dusky saffron]

confirmed ayla a weeb

[brittle imp]

[dusky saffron]

but

[brittle imp]

Confirmed

[dusky saffron]

name the nerfs

[wind pendant]

confess, you spam AYAYA

[dusky saffron]

@brittle imp

[solid hinge]

I don't spam!

[brittle imp]

@dusky saffron look I can do that as well

[dusky saffron]

Well you're just saying "nerf"

when it's actually nerfs

[brittle imp]

I wasnt the one who said nerf first

[dusky saffron]

you still rolled with it

[brittle imp]

Look in a mirror

To find your answer

[dusky saffron]

yikes

I said nerfs way before

[solid hinge]

can one of you tell me the nerfs before i cry

[dusky saffron]

now it would be a colloquial

nerfs were

[brittle imp]

There are no nerfs you weeb

[dusky saffron]

• reduced sprint

• reduced hitbox

[brittle imp]

Melee in general just not a strong

[dusky saffron]

and that's all I can see from so far

[brittle imp]

Melee in bfv pretty much pointless

[dusky saffron]

they kept the same cd though, which is a bit obnoxious

[brittle imp]

Bayonet never really added much to game anyways

[wind pendant]

i saw some ridiculous bayonet charge videos from bf1

with hilarious animation

[icy sluice]

I melee all the time in V

[dusky saffron]

Same

It's why I combat medic lmao

[icy sluice]

Because flanking and ammo is scarce

[solid hinge]

why melee when you can webley

[icy sluice]

I realize that, they released a trailer for Overture, they'll probably do the same for Lightning Srikes

[dusky saffron]

of course

[icy sluice]

Because meleeing is better.

[solid hinge]

name ONE way it's better

[dusky saffron]

range

[solid hinge]

[icy sluice]

It's quieter

[dusky saffron]

Actually

melee is loud af in this game

because every melee kill does a big squelching sound

[prisma lichen]

But, its fun to run around and just murdering everyone with a small weapon

Also

[solid hinge]

It might be a little quieter

[prisma lichen]

Good for surprising and tea bagging

[solid hinge]

It takes longer though

[dusky saffron]

melee stops revives

a majority of starter frames are death frames

saves ammo

[solid hinge]

Can't revive if they're all dead

Pistols effectively have enough ammo to never run out

[dusky saffron]

listen weeb

you probably miss a majority of webley shots

weebley shots

[solid hinge]

42% accuracy!!

[prisma lichen]

lmao

[dusky saffron]

ngl

[solid hinge]

Almost as much as my bolt action

[dusky saffron]

webley hipfire is nice

[solid hinge]

Acrually probably more i missed a shitload last few rounds

[midnight nimbus]

go back to BF1 hipfire pls

[dusky saffron]

yikes

[icy sluice]

We have some good news about Firestorm from a dog
https://twitter.com/T4isonTV/status/1080454247941058560

𝐓𝐚𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐧𝑻𝑽 🥂 (@T4isonTV)

El Battleroyale de #BattlefieldV #Firestorm Tendrá También Matchmaking Individual ademas de Squads, sin noticias de partidas en Duos más info pronto en video

Twitter

Too bad, the dog doesn't speak english

[wind pendant]

[midnight nimbus]

power creep BFV when

[solid hinge]

singles and squads

[dusky saffron]

mmm

sounds interesting

however

I wonder how the matches would start regardless

are we just gonna drop in and find weapons like any other br or what

[icy sluice]

I like how the concept of a Battle Royale in World War II makes no sense but fuck it, it's a game.

[dusky saffron]

well

the dog brought news

[echo glen]

"A total war makes strange bedfellows."

[icy sluice]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I kinda hope it does what BO4 does and adds in historical quotes

Or facts

[echo glen]

Maybe that time Germans and Americans fought with each other against SS units

That's a cool war story basis but sadly no more war stories

[icy sluice]

"A single Tiger Tank in 1944 would cost around $100,000. Today it would cost $1,282,051"

[solid hinge]

you know the Germans jump out of a British plane right now in airborne? they're gonna have everyone jump out of the same plane confused and determine everyone else is the enemy

[prisma lichen]

BFV BR is gonna be weird

[dusky saffron]

"yo thanks for the ride britbongs"

"yeet"

[prisma lichen]

Lmao

[dusky saffron]

honestly

I wish other player models were in the planes

[prisma lichen]

Imagine if every BF game had BR

[dusky saffron]

instead of the set models

[icy sluice]

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a whole different customize category, where we put on pieces from either side.

[midnight nimbus]

BFV BR 🤢

remove the flags pls

[solid hinge]

even titanfall managed to get other player models in the dropships

[midnight nimbus]

just make it normal BR

[solid hinge]

BR 🤢

[prisma lichen]

Just make it no BR

[midnight nimbus]

yeah BR is general is garbage

[solid hinge]

fortnite 🤢
pubg 🤢
anything with BR 🤢

[midnight nimbus]

BFV BR is just extra garbage

[solid hinge]

It could be entertaining

[prisma lichen]

Only good BR is Minecraft Hunger Games 💪

[dusky saffron]

fact

[brittle imp]

People against BR need to get over it

[echo glen]

The OG

[brittle imp]

It brings people into battlefield

So I dont mind

[wind pendant]

If BF had a game set in modern time + timed it better it could have stolen the thunder from pubg

[prisma lichen]

I'm not saying I don't like BR

I just find it weird

[dusky saffron]

pubg is trash because of hackers

fortnite is fortnite

[brittle imp]

I dont care for BR but BR in battlefield could be very cool

[solid hinge]

💪 Minecraft 💪 Hunger 💪 Games 💪

[prisma lichen]

Especially in a BF game

[dusky saffron]

I wouldn't mind a bfv br

[midnight nimbus]

make BFV BR F2P

[icy sluice]

I don't mind trying the BR.

The gun play is quite solid

[brittle imp]

Pubg trash for many reasons

[dusky saffron]

I came back to pubg since last year

die 3 times to reasons I found peculiar

watch a killcam

[brittle imp]

Not very fluid

[icy sluice]

PUBG console has no aim assist at all so, most gunfights are like Stormtroopers

[dusky saffron]

the boy just snaps on me

like okay

nice cheats

[solid hinge]

fortnite is better than pubg

unironically

[dusky saffron]

aaaannnnnddd muted

[solid hinge]

console pubg is fucked

[midnight nimbus]

fortnite is fun to watch

[dusky saffron]

console pubg was a joke

[midnight nimbus]

meh to play

[icy sluice]

Fortnite definitely controls better than PUBG, but I don't like the gun play

[brittle imp]

Fortnite does play better than pubg for sure

[icy sluice]

I also don't like the building aspect too much

[brittle imp]

Btw we are battlefiled channel you weebs

[dense bone]

firestorm gonna come in an take over

[solid hinge]

fortnite updates nicely

[dusky saffron]

firestorm gonna sweep in

[solid hinge]

building sucks ass though

[dusky saffron]

and steal the comp

just watch

[brittle imp]

I hope firestorm is great

But I am scared

[dusky saffron]

however

I hope

[brittle imp]

It will be trash

[dusky saffron]

I sincerely hope

[dense bone]

i personally think its gonna be slightly more successful than blackout for pc,

[dusky saffron]

they don't just do like

[solid hinge]

They added fortification building to bfv just so you can build in firestorm just like fortnite

[dusky saffron]

Search and Destroy

[prisma lichen]

Its gonna be a bit buggy at first

[dusky saffron]

because that's what Final stand practically is

[solid hinge]

A bit?

[brittle imp]

@solid hinge highly debatable

[midnight nimbus]

building aspect in fortnite is too easily macroable

[dense bone]

they are not gonna add building like fortnite...

[dusky saffron]

^

[midnight nimbus]

also lol @ whoever thought firestorm can touch blackout

[dusky saffron]

it's only set pieces

[icy sluice]

Final Stand should be different waves of enemies because it doesn't last too long.

[dusky saffron]

Final Stand is just

[solid hinge]

whole map of set pieces

[icy sluice]

Literally lasts like 1 minute

[dusky saffron]

"perma death"

"the mode"

[brittle imp]

@midnight nimbus lol at you for thinking it has no chance to

[dusky saffron]

nah

my final stand

[midnight nimbus]

64p and flags

[dusky saffron]

lasted 10 minutes

on devastation

[dense bone]

@midnight nimbus i said on pc, which bf is more popular than cod on pc

[midnight nimbus]

garbage visibility

circle of fire

origin matchmaking sucks

[solid hinge]

I wish I'd had a final stand game so i could talk about it

[midnight nimbus]

BO4 is pretty popular on PC

[dense bone]

...

[midnight nimbus]

gets a lot of twitch views

[dusky saffron]

Maybe someday lmao

maybe someday you'll get a final stand

[dense bone]

the game sold MAYBE 500k copies on pc

[dusky saffron]

and be as cool as me

[icy sluice]

I got it twice

[dusky saffron]

B)

and raptor

[icy sluice]

Both times was short as fuck

[dusky saffron]

ah

[brittle imp]

Maybe someday kht will realize the error of his ways

[dusky saffron]

what maps

[dense bone]

twitch doesnt determine much

[brittle imp]

And how he cant predict the future

[icy sluice]

Devastation and Arras

[solid hinge]

Tfw you reach level 50 and do like 50 GOs without a single final stand

[dusky saffron]

Devastation was long af for me

[icy sluice]

Imagine a Twisted Steel Final Stand :monkamega:

[dusky saffron]

10 mins

I mean

on the bridge

it'd be lit

[solid hinge]

bridge only

[dusky saffron]

y e s

please

bridge battles are fun

[dense bone]

i did the math when we got vague numbers for blops 4 at one point, tops blops sold 700k on pc

bf is around there in sales as well

[dusky saffron]

mmm

[midnight nimbus]

BO4 more than tripled BO3

[dusky saffron]

yummy playdoh graphics

lmao

[dense bone]

in general

[icy sluice]

BO2 still sold more than BO4.

[midnight nimbus]

for PC

[dense bone]

source?

last i saw for pc they doubled at best

[icy sluice]

Source for who? Me or kht?

[dense bone]

kht

and tripling cod ww2 isnt saying much either...

all statements will be for pc only

[midnight nimbus]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/call-of-duty-black-ops-4/black-ops-4-sales

[dense bone]

ever since mw2 pc hasnt adopted cod games

[icy sluice]

The most sold call of duty game was Modern Warfare 3... now that's quite interesting

[midnight nimbus]

before the holiday season

[dusky saffron]

mw3 had a lot of pr

and that's when they started branding themselves on drinks

and whatever

[midnight nimbus]

i think blackout is pretty untouchable in the BR scene

[dusky saffron]

my monster cans have BO4 on it

[midnight nimbus]

cramming flags into firestorm is just ridiculous

[icy sluice]

Kinda prevents caping

[midnight nimbus]

also no 100p is gonna turn off a lot of people

[dusky saffron]

eh

not really

100p isn't all that interesting everytime

[icy sluice]

I hate that that article has no numbers

[midnight nimbus]

people were initially mad that blackout didn't have 100p

[icy sluice]

Show me the numbers, Mason

[midnight nimbus]

not that 100p really matters

[prisma lichen]

🤔

[midnight nimbus]

but people like their bigly numbers

[dusky saffron]

shrug

CSGO and Bad blood have less than 100

[midnight nimbus]

BR is also pretty heavily influenced by what top BR players are streaming

[icy sluice]

So you know we got baaad songs

[dense bone]

so PEAK players for ww2 on pc was 50k, lets quadruple those numbers just to compensate for everyone not playing the game at same time, so 200k, now lets triple sales for blops 4, thats 600k... hell lets add another 100k for sales so its 300k for ww3, tripling that is 900k. lets just add another 100k to make it a clean 1m. i would think that AT MOST blops 4 on pc sold 1m

according to the numbers we have

i think im being pretty fucking generous with numbers too

[midnight nimbus]

imo, the measure of a BR's success is adoption by guys like shroud

[craggy estuary]

sigh you never look at pc numbers for bf or cod

cuz they dont matter

[midnight nimbus]

i don't see BR being that great until you see a scene around it

[brittle imp]

LoL

Shroud does not single handles determine a games sucess

[craggy estuary]

pc sales are a tiny %% compared to console sales

[brittle imp]

So not even suggest that

[fast wren]

Hello there, wanted to know if it was worth buying the game right now since it's half its retail price ?

[midnight nimbus]

it's an example

[dense bone]

yea, lets just ignore everything i just said...

[idle breach]

in half price it's more than worth get

[craggy estuary]

@fast wren it was always worth buying

[brittle imp]

Shroud may give like a thousand more sales and that is a maybe

[idle breach]

but prepared to be starving on CC after some time

[midnight nimbus]

but BO4 BR was smashing twitch views and got great hype

had a great marketing campaign

[brittle imp]

So?

[dense bone]

stop using twitch views as a measure for anything...

[craggy estuary]

@idle breach im getting 2-3k cc per day

[dense bone]

that makes no sense

[midnight nimbus]

had a beta, and actually launched on time

[fast wren]

cc ?

[midnight nimbus]

works well

[brittle imp]

Twitch also hyped the stupid pirate game up

[craggy estuary]

company coin

[brittle imp]

And people are streaming that

Failing to see a point kht

[craggy estuary]

@brittle imp you mean the ark dlc they sold as a full game

[dense bone]

works well for what? wheres the data to suggest this?

[brittle imp]

You just keep saying generic stuff kht

[midnight nimbus]

BO4 runs well

compared to BFV

[dense bone]

@craggy estuary he could be talking about that xbox exclusive or atlas

[midnight nimbus]

obviously a less intensive game

[brittle imp]

Atlas

[wind pendant]

BO4 isnt nearly the size of BFV

[icy sluice]

Of course a game with 2004 graphics runs better

[craggy estuary]

@wind pendant not when it comes to sales

[wind pendant]

and it hits CPUs hard meaning getting 144fps is hard there too

[midnight nimbus]

but given how 64p CQ currently runs, I'm interested to see how “the biggest BF map yet" will run, especially on console

[wind pendant]

I am talking about map size and features included

[dense bone]

blackout was on 30tick servers, or still is, idk if they ever changed it...

[wind pendant]

vs performance

[midnight nimbus]

TTD bug persists, and that's gonna be absolutely game breaking in BR

[icy sluice]

The original xbox one is able to run at 60 fps

[craggy estuary]

@icy sluice it does not look that bad so chill with the bs

[midnight nimbus]

tick rate alone doesn't define networking

[icy sluice]

The was mostly meant to point out that I am using hyperbole

[dense bone]

no, but its a straight up fact that its 30 vs 60

and that matters

[icy sluice]

Maybe 2008 graphics

[craggy estuary]

2012

[pale rain]

Blackout is fun tbh

[idle breach]

I'm selling my kidney for company coins. Call mr anyone interested!!

[icy sluice]

Left 4 Dead 2 looks about the same as CoD today

[craggy estuary]

@idle breach how are you not getting cc

[dense bone]

all im saying is that imo firestorm has a chance to beat blackout on pc, its not that tall of an order given the numbers, so dont be a dick about my theory

[brittle imp]

@midnight nimbus you assume all the issues will still be here in march

[dense bone]

if it doesnt beat it, o well

[idle breach]

Its terrible

[craggy estuary]

@idle breach had 2.5k yesterday and i have 5k today

[midnight nimbus]

@brittle imp yeeeeep

[idle breach]

Spare me coin

[craggy estuary]

no

[brittle imp]

@midnight nimbus that is a lot of assuming that 100%is wrong

[idle breach]

You savage

[midnight nimbus]

visibility is borderline unfixable, short of entirely redoing the UI

[brittle imp]

Kht wrong again

[dense bone]

we have 2 months till firestorm

[midnight nimbus]

we'll see how far they can get with TTD in 2 months lol

[dense bone]

youre really grasping at straws here

[brittle imp]

There is a different company on firestorm here

Correct?

[dense bone]

right because THEY JUST NOW started working on TTD

[midnight nimbus]

@brittle imp shit visibility is partially due to UI literally not working without forced AA

[dense bone]

this moment

[little fjord]

After you're rank 50 and have all the deluxe assignments done you don't get much cc... just 300 from daily assignments

[brittle imp]

Exactly

[midnight nimbus]

you literally have to remake UI to truly fix visibility issues

[brittle imp]

Kht is spouting his opinions as fact

[dense bone]

ill say it again, your post quality has gone down dramatically, and it has nothing to do with agreeing with you or not

[midnight nimbus]

it's not an opinion that UI and TAA are intrinsically linked

[idle breach]

Bye everyone

[brittle imp]

And that they won't fix it

It is an opinion borderline unfixable

And that they are not working on it

[dense bone]

no, the problem is that you say something is more or less important just for your own gain

[idle breach]

Im going out to prostitute myself for company coins

[midnight nimbus]

you can't redo your game's UI after launch lol

[idle breach]

Wish me luck

[dense bone]

youhave dev experience?

[stone plaza]

i mean

wasnt this more or less confirmed by people actually working on it

forced TAA is used to mask issues with the lighting system

[midnight nimbus]

unironically do have dev experience

[stone plaza]

and yeah he does

[midnight nimbus]

UI overhaul even in small things is hard

[dense bone]

thats convenient

[midnight nimbus]

a AAA game's UI is really really hard

[brittle imp]

Eh I can disagree with you and I do

[midnight nimbus]

why do you think BFV doesn't have BF1's zoom customization?

and it takes a million clicks to do anything?

[dense bone]

no idea, i dont dev

[brittle imp]

Him having dev experience doesnt mean he knows everything about bfv

[dense bone]

and i have no reason to believe you do as well

[brittle imp]

My problem with kht is he acts like he knows what is going on

When in reality he knows as much as us

Regardless what dice is doing

[dense bone]

my problem is he acts like a dick on my opinion just because

[brittle imp]

Yes people do that

[dense bone]

firestorm could beat blackout on pc, seems reasonable

[midnight nimbus]

🤔🤔🤔 look back here in a few months when medic gets carbines and they're even more shit than SMGs

[dense bone]

....

[brittle imp]

Look back here also if you end up being wrong

[dense bone]

wtf are you talking about?

[brittle imp]

Print our your words

And eat them

K thx

[midnight nimbus]

and the upcoming machine pistols are actually good

[stone plaza]

um

he's not bullshitting, you know

http://bfdata.juhala.io/misc/bfv_overture_05122018.html

all the datamined guns are here

this is game data

@brittle imp @dense bone

[dense bone]

so hes just saying game data at this point

[stone plaza]

that's what guns are

formulae that determine how many bullets are generated and where they go

[midnight nimbus]

it's almost like I've understood game mechanics for several BF games in a row now 🤔

[stone plaza]

and how much damage they do

[icy sluice]

Guns are data

[stone plaza]

really makes you think

[brittle imp]

@stone plaza that isnt what I am talking about and you know it

[midnight nimbus]

everything is data

[icy sluice]

My foot size is data

[dense bone]

we havent talked to you about data

you just brought this up randomly

[icy sluice]

The numbers, MASON

[midnight nimbus]

the big problems with BFV are largely unfixable

[brittle imp]

I am talking kht acting like he knows exactly what is going to happen

[dense bone]

and said you kno what youre talking about

[midnight nimbus]

as data dictates

[brittle imp]

@midnight nimbus 100% your opinion

As data dictates

[dense bone]

data dictats firestorm cant pass blackout on pc?

[brittle imp]

To claim is fixable is hilarious

[dense bone]

whers the data for that?

[brittle imp]

People said bf4 was u fixable

And look what happened

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 just had networking issues

[brittle imp]

So take your data up your bum

[midnight nimbus]

BFV is much more than that

[stone plaza]

BF4 had bugs, BFV has gameplay issues

[dense bone]

@midnight nimbus wheres the data that says firestorm cant pass blackout on pc?

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 had a relatively decent BF launch

[stone plaza]

they'll never roll back attrition, for instance

[midnight nimbus]

I highly doubt firestorm will

[brittle imp]

Bf4 it effected gameplay and had gameplay isuses

[midnight nimbus]

very very highly doubt it

[brittle imp]

@midnight nimbus LOL BF4 DECENT RELEASE

You have lost it

[midnight nimbus]

for a BF game

it's decent

[brittle imp]

Gg no rematch kht

[midnight nimbus]

which isn't a high bar

[dense bone]

thats fine, i think it has a chance, but you dont have to be a dick about it

[midnight nimbus]

better than BF3 release

[brittle imp]

You make me laugh kht

Like literally

[dense bone]

blackouts pc sales isnt a high bar either...

[midnight nimbus]

did you play BF3 on release?

[brittle imp]

Yes, did you?

[dense bone]

VERY VERY VERY generous numbers put it at 1m TOPS

[solid hinge]

BF3 was best BF, BF4 was rly good tho

[dense bone]

and imo, if pc numbers were good, they would outright say

[brittle imp]

Anyways, we shall see who is right soon enough

[dense bone]

but they dont...

[midnight nimbus]

BO4 PC sales are evidently good enough given how easy it is to find matches

[dense bone]

i find matches in realm royale, which has 2k players in it

[midnight nimbus]

random matchmaking into BO4 is easier than random matchmaking into BF in general

[dense bone]

once again, not a valid measurement you are basing your info on

[midnight nimbus]

my doubts regarding firestorm largely center around the lack of solo and the inclusion of flags

[dense bone]

thats fine

[midnight nimbus]

TTD bug is pretty game breaking

[dense bone]

there are reason to suggest it wont pass blackout

[midnight nimbus]

and i doubt that changes in 2 months

[dense bone]

but as ive been saying, doesnt mean you have to be a dick about it

[midnight nimbus]

but 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

BFV BR is disappointing solely due to the fact that it shows DICE not sticking to its guns

[dense bone]

its not even out...

how are you claiming anything?

[midnight nimbus]

DICE not sticking to its guns regarding what BF is

[brittle imp]

@midnight nimbus how can it be disappointing when you havent even seen it and dont say your fucking data does

[midnight nimbus]

rolling with the BR meme

[craggy estuary]

@brittle imp the br is being made by criterion

[brittle imp]

Correct

[craggy estuary]

@midnight nimbus pretty sure it was EA's idea

[craggy estuary]

wow that steelwind person that was asking if it was worth buying isnt gonna buy cuz of having to install drivers...

[strong parrot]

ive always found it annoying waiting up to 1.5 mins for a match in bf5

[dusky saffron]

servers are full for me constantly

makes queue 2+ m with friends

[strong parrot]

server browser is one thing but when ever i quick join a conquest match its pretty quick

pretty quick for a ded game

[teal phoenix]

Happens to me as well most of the time

[solid hinge]

The medium tanks feel nicr

[dusky saffron]

medium tanks are best

[solid hinge]

They lose out on spotting scope but they aren't quite as fragile

[dusky saffron]

faster rof as well

[solid hinge]

And their gun is like.. just as good as heavy guns

[dusky saffron]

mhm

maybe like

few points of damage less but

+20% rof with the right tree

[solid hinge]

The rof increase more than makes up for it

[dusky saffron]

mhm

plus some of them have damage absorption

so it's a big joke how strong they are

[dense bone]

so i ran out of credits...

[solid hinge]

Damage absorption?

[dusky saffron]

mhm

I think

the valentine has explosive reduction

as like the third tier

[solid hinge]

I picked right tree on panzer 4 by accident but the flare is surprisingly nice

[dusky saffron]

valentine mk6 is best

ye flares are nice

@dense bone you gotta get those oins now

[solid hinge]

They get track skirts

Does that help with explosive resistance?

[dusky saffron]

ye

but only for tracks

[solid hinge]

Better than nothin

[dusky saffron]

mhm

[gusty grail]

Will battlefield V get more nations to play? Or at least more tanks that saw on WW2

[solid hinge]

Valentine gets like.. mad damage

[dusky saffron]

2 strong

also @gusty grail we'll be getting americans and russians soon

[solid hinge]

Extra ammo, extra fire rate, better gun, apcr rounds

[dusky saffron]

that's all we know so far

for the Valentine

[solid hinge]

panzer gets a smoke launcher or zimmerit

[green elm]

maybe japanese too

[solid hinge]

not exacrly as good

[dense bone]

has there ever been a pearl harbor map?

[solid hinge]

Really?

Interesting choice

[dusky saffron]

woops thats for churhill

[solid hinge]

Oh

[gusty grail]

@dense bone that would be an infantries nightmare

[dusky saffron]

Yeah I go uh

[gusty grail]

Lol

[dusky saffron]

Field repair, ILM, Track skirts, then either mine clearing or APCR

[dense bone]

i mean, just balance it out

[gray glade]

@dense bone don't think so

[dense bone]

it doesnt have to stay true to what actually happened

[gray glade]

bf1942 had some really nice pacific maps though

[solid hinge]

Interesting choice

[dusky saffron]

"speculation"

[solid hinge]

Track repair over more ammo?

[dusky saffron]

The valentine has like

what

24 shells?

[gusty grail]

that would be cool but yeah i don't think it will happen

[dusky saffron]

I can skip 32 tbh

[solid hinge]

Doesn't hurt to have more boom

[dusky saffron]

true

[solid hinge]

Longer suppression times

[dusky saffron]

first tier is preference

since anything can happen with teammates that don't pay attention

[solid hinge]

True

Yeah..

[dusky saffron]

next thing you know is that you're getting sticky'd

and you need track repairs

or something

[craggy estuary]

well i was able to get the ratburner helmet today

[solid hinge]

Topped last round with a panzer 4 and i spent most of the match at 56 because everyone on my team refused to heal me

[dusky saffron]

ahh

my friends sometimes switch to support

so I can lead the blitz

while they reveal

[solid hinge]

I had a support get in my turret while I was hiding behind a rock on 4 hp

[little fjord]

Ammo capacity is usually not a huge deal if you know how to use the vehicle service stations

[solid hinge]

;_;

I prefer less downtime inbetween shooting

Usually if I've let my attention slip long enough that I need track repair I'm in a situation it won't save me anyway

[lapis hare]

wait hold up

get the ratburner helmet how?

are you able to buy it now?

[solid hinge]

oh shit I forgot about this discord

[lapis hare]

oh is that available now?

[solid hinge]

how is bfv?

[charred heron]

Bad

Meh

[little fjord]

Bfv tickles my diddle

[charred heron]

Nothing special

Broken

Still better than Fallout 76

[solid hinge]

okay so one dude says it's bad

[lapis hare]

bfv is super populated & very polished

[charred heron]

[solid hinge]

typical

[lapis hare]

/s

[solid hinge]

another says it's good

[pale rain]

It’s good

[solid hinge]

that's another

[green elm]

i don’t like it

but i mean i’ll still play it

[solid hinge]

I guess I'll hibernate for a little more until everyone likes it

[little fjord]

Bfv actually is really good... don't listen to the gamer masses... they are spoiled negative nancies

[gusty grail]

battlefied 1 is kinda better

[solid hinge]

okay no that's not true

bf1 is literal scum

no teamplay

nothing

[gusty grail]

but i still enjoy bfv

[little fjord]

I'm diehard bf4... and I'm loving bfv

[dusky saffron]

I have a lot of fun with bfv

[gusty grail]

it's depend on how you play

i usually play on my own

[green elm]

it’s kind of hard to chill out

[lapis hare]

the only downside is that I really have nothing to grind towards

please increase career rank to 150

thanks

make it a trillion xp for each rank

[restive talon]

Is the update coming tommorow

The new season

[gusty grail]

Is it?

[restive talon]

!roadmap

[icy sluice]

!roadmap

[junior mist]

:information_source: Battlefield V: Launch is just the beginning.
This image includes a roadmap and details on some of the upcoming chapters of Tide of War

Important dates:
January-March: Grand Ops, Rush and more
Starting in march: Firestorm and more MP modes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/144885731129556992/504642289575133185/Roadmap.jpg?width=1005&height=566

[little fjord]

Frontlines and breakthrough game modes have pretty good team play for randoms... comparatively... But if you have buddies to squad up with you can do well in bfv.... coordinated squads are strong @solid hinge

[icy steppe]

BFV is, in my opinion, one of the best Battlefields, and the best is still yet to come (hopefully). And this coming from someone who's been playing since 1942. Its tons of fun; the only downside, as someone said earlier, is that there's not much to grind for now. @solid hinge

[little fjord]

Ya

[icy sluice]

@icy steppe 👍

[gusty grail]

Shame i have a exam tomorrow, also get part time job tomorrow night.

[dusky saffron]

What Thaurion said

[dense bone]

agreed

[dusky saffron]

I expect bfv to be the next practical bf4

[restive talon]

So maybe the update is tommorow?

[dusky saffron]

of this era

[dense bone]

but id say bf4 was better

well, imo

bf4 was my first pc bf experience

[restive talon]

Bf4 is polished

[pale rain]

Bf4 was better imo too

[dense bone]

and that was glorious

[icy sluice]

Battlefield 4 felt good but the base maps sucked imo

[dusky saffron]

I had problems with bf4's gameplay

[solid hinge]

Wait is the new season actually coming tomorrow?

[dusky saffron]

some of it was just "why"

[lapis hare]

bfv is only severely hampered by the lack of launch content

& a dodgy max rank

[solid hinge]

frontlines have good teamplay for randoms

[pale rain]

Battlefield 4 was my first battlefield

[icy steppe]

Ofc; the only reason why I don't think BF4 is better is because I'm not that into modern era war; so of course it could count a bit towards my opinion about the best game.

[lapis hare]

I think within a few months it could very well be a good title

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 is really good, but boring gunplay

just click fast

[lapis hare]

atleast in bf1/bfv I experiment with the guns

[midnight nimbus]

everything feels the same

[lapis hare]

in bf4 its just

[green elm]

hold shoot 2 win

[lapis hare]

scar-h, aek, famas

[icy sluice]

1942 was my first battlefield

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 has the best actual gun variety

[dusky saffron]

[restive talon]

Bf vietnam was my first bf

[dusky saffron]

out of season joke

that was good

[undone steppe]

bf1 gun variety was trash lol

[midnight nimbus]

gud class weapon choices

[icy sluice]

BF1, every gun felt very different

[restive talon]

Then bf2 and bf 2142

[lapis hare]

only reason i'd rag on bf1 big time

was for the variants

[restive talon]

Then skipped the entire franchise

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 actual variety > BF3/4 illusion of variety

[restive talon]

Till bf4

[midnight nimbus]

gun variants were gud

it's basically what BFV is

[lapis hare]

kinda sad I couldn't put some sights on some of my weapons

[icy sluice]

Like in BF1, look at all the assault weapons, the only two that felt the 'same' are the Sjogren and 12g automatic and even then, that's a stretch

[midnight nimbus]

BFV spec trees are variants with extra steps

[lapis hare]

pick the sniper/marksman variant

[midnight nimbus]

12G Auto and Sjogren were really different

[icy sluice]

Yeah

[lapis hare]

ö

[green elm]

choosing sights might have been cool

[icy sluice]

Like I said, the only guns that felt nearly similar

[pale rain]

Miss the SMLE from bf1

[icy sluice]

On the assault class that is

[lapis hare]

tbf I could see the Howell return

was one of my favs in bf1

[icy sluice]

The Lee Enfield is basically the SMLE though

[dense bone]

POLL: WHICH IS BETTER BFV OR BF4

[green elm]

the dmr’s do feel similar

[icy steppe]

@lapis hare Yeah, if EA doesn't pull the plug on this game (which I really really hope they don't) I think BFV will be arguably the best in the franchise. Provided DICE gives us the right content. And when that happens I feel as if most people who turn it down now will come around to buy and enjoy the game.

[pale rain]

It feels way different

[icy steppe]

But hey, that's what I'm expecting and hoping to happen.

[fallow thorn]

hello everyoen

[dense bone]

hola

[undone steppe]

i feel like bfv is going to be just as good if not better than bf4 when its all said and done

[lapis hare]

I mean the chronological content is kind of a good idea

[icy steppe]

Hello

[lapis hare]

hope they'll bring more factions aswell

[icy sluice]

Who's ready for... Co-Op?

[fallow thorn]

ANYONE WANT TO SEE MY 122 M30 DRILLING MATCH ????

[dense bone]

bfv and bfv tied, 4 a piece

[pale rain]

My favorite gun in any battlefield ever is the MK11 Mod 0 from bf4. I know that’s weird but dude I loved that thing

[icy sluice]

@fallow thorn Post it in #streams-and-videos then

[fallow thorn]

122 kills

i ment

oooh

ok

[undone steppe]

m240b

so sexy

[dense bone]

4 comes ahead with 5 votes!

[midnight nimbus]

BFV only does gunplay better than BF4

1907 is basically M16A3

[icy sluice]

iirc, you can't vault a lot of shit in 4.

[fallow thorn]

go check my vid pls if u want to see :3

[icy steppe]

Yeah I mean I like the idea of Tides Of War. Its a different and innovative way to bring new content to the game, while having more time to work on it.

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 movement felt really good on smooth surfaces

[restive talon]

@icy sluice wait is it actually coming out

[dense bone]

im obviously biased since bf4 was my first pc mp shooter

[lapis hare]

atleast we get a chance to get the weapons

[icy sluice]

Yeah, next update

Or next... tow

[midnight nimbus]

BFV doesn't have enough new maps and guns out for a BF game at this point in its life cycle

[lapis hare]

after the challenges

[icy sluice]

@restive talon have you never clicked on the "Play" menu and see "Combined Arms Coming Soon"?

[dense bone]

did bf4 have more new guns to bf3 compared to bf1 to bfv?

[restive talon]

Coming soon

Soon ™

[little fjord]

Bf4 had a ton of guns

[midnight nimbus]

eh, I don't think about BF4 weapon count much

[undone steppe]

bf1 guns were fake lol stupid ass variants for everything

[midnight nimbus]

it had a ton of redundant guns

BF1 had actual variety

[undone steppe]

bf3 and bf4 had a lot more guns

[merry ivy]

BF4 had lots of assault rifles which were extremely varied and balanced between each other

[undone steppe]

i think your smoking crack bro

[merry ivy]

not at all similar guns

cough

[gray glade]

bf1 guns had a kind of fake variety though

guns that werent used by ppl in infantry or even beyond prototypes

[midnight nimbus]

BF3 has 5 guns

no, it's very very real variety

variant system made guns pretty different

like MP18 Trench vs Optical is far more different than AR160 vs AUG

> BF4 had lots of assault rifles which were extremely varied and balanced between each other
😂

[little fjord]

No way... there were a ton of guns in bf4 and I used almost all of them enough to unlock gold battlepacks... they were similar in balance but you could find one that fit your playstyle and exactly how you wanted to use it

[merry ivy]

it was all the funky WW1 prototypes that made weapons feel unique as well

they not only performed differently

they looked way different

[midnight nimbus]

> BF4
> balance
pick one

[merry ivy]

was a joke

[midnight nimbus]

especially on 30Hz

too bad medic didn't have an AKM using the RPK bullet

would've been best gun by a big margin

[little fjord]

There were a lot of guns in bf4 that weren't popular that were actually really good if you used them to their strengths

[midnight nimbus]

RPK would've been best gun if it weren't an LMG

[dusky saffron]

voted in that poll

V wins

@dense bone

[livid sinew]

also the attachments

were pretty cool

[midnight nimbus]

attachments are the worst

[livid sinew]

nah i liked it

[midnight nimbus]

breaks gun balance and provides the illusion of variety

[dense bone]

@dusky saffron bf4 has more votes..

[dusky saffron]

it just got 3

lmao

ree

[midnight nimbus]

like a lot of attachment combos literally just made your gun worse

[dense bone]

LOL

[icy sluice]

A reaction poll ain't that reliable anyway

[dusky saffron]

^

[dense bone]

nah

[little fjord]

Attachments kinda led to crossover... Kinda allowed you to make one gun behave like another

[dusky saffron]

speaking of bf4 attachments

[dense bone]

but it shows how close they are

[dusky saffron]

only really the sights mattered

[midnight nimbus]

wat

no

[dusky saffron]

uh

yeah

you practically ran the same grip and barrel

for a majority of guns

[midnight nimbus]

comp + stubby on high RoFs

[pale rain]

What is y’all’s favorite sniper rifle from bf4?

[dusky saffron]

none

[dense bone]

none

[midnight nimbus]

hbar + stubby on carbines

don't snipe

[pale rain]

Mine is the M40A5

[little fjord]

Yeah, none

[pale rain]

Wow

[dense bone]

lets take a poll

[undone steppe]

m40a5

for sure

[pale rain]

Yep

[dense bone]

None

[pale rain]

That gun was a beast

[green elm]

that one giant sniper u find on the ground

[little fjord]

Srr-61 or whatever it's called

[coral fiber]

Does anyone think they will add the ppsh for the next medic weapon

[midnight nimbus]

AK-12 with burst mode, best sniper

[coral fiber]

Or too soon?

[little fjord]

Flat shooter with a good damage model

[midnight nimbus]

next medic gun is Lancaster

[green elm]

@midnight nimbus an-94* with burst mode

[pale rain]

Mk11 mod 0 was great at counter sniping

Or scar-h was good too

[undone steppe]

an 94 or f2000 ftw

[midnight nimbus]

@green elm AK-12 has better spread/hrec

[little fjord]

I could countersnipe pretty well with m60 because suppression

[midnight nimbus]

AN-94 in BF4 was meh

[undone steppe]

not on burst

[little fjord]

🤦 an94 was beast

[midnight nimbus]

a shadow of its BF3 self

overall DPS with burst is still meh

[undone steppe]

it was the best in bc2

[green elm]

an killed decently quick when bursting

[midnight nimbus]

equivalent to a 700ish RPM AR

not really

[green elm]

i had fun

[midnight nimbus]

it's ok if you hit a ton of heads

BF3 AN-94 is the best gun in any BF ever

in terms of how brokenly good it is

aside from maybe BFH G17

[green elm]

bf3 an was the shit

so beautiful

[midnight nimbus]

BF3 AN-94 was unreal

absolutely broken

[little fjord]

People only looked ate damage×rof.... But spread and accuracy play an important part of ttk in effective ranges... an94 put 2 bullets really close and spread didn't increase intra burst

Bf4

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 has bad burst fire spread mechanics

and you still get spread in between rounds

[little fjord]

I only remember pp2000 and g3 in bf3

[midnight nimbus]

like i said, it performs like a 700 RPM AR in BF4

[little fjord]

Not in burst only guns

[midnight nimbus]

while the BF3 version is god tier

BF4 burst guns have the same spread mechanics as automatic weapons

[green elm]

an is just a really funky gun tbh

[midnight nimbus]

which is why it's meh

M16A4 in BF4 is good if you have rhythm

[undone steppe]

i dont know i think the burst in bf4 was a little more accurate

[midnight nimbus]

it just puts your recoil multiplier at the end of the burst

instead of on your first shot

doesn't touch spread

[pale rain]

M4 carbine was good when used correctly

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 did burst mechanics well

[undone steppe]

yea im pretty sure m4 is one of my top 5 guns

[green elm]

there was like 3 burst guns in bf1?

[solid hinge]

where's my burst bolt action

[midnight nimbus]

two, and the mechanics are the best in the BF series

[green elm]

i’ve never used mp18 burst but the memepistol burst was so fun

[midnight nimbus]

shifts spread multiplier back, so you get a super laser-y burst with almost no spread increase

[undone steppe]

mp18 burst was the best gun on launch

[green elm]

@solid hinge burst martini henry

[midnight nimbus]

@solid hinge BO4 Outlaw 👌👌👌

[green elm]

for when headshots are overrated

[solid hinge]

[merry ivy]

belt fed 1200 RPM martini henry

[midnight nimbus]

BO3 P06 is one of the most busted guns in any FPS I've ever played

[pale rain]

Never played that game

[green elm]

cod burst guns generally feel good tbh

[pale rain]

Only blops I didn’t play

[midnight nimbus]

it's like a 3 round burst 1800 RPM sniper rifle or something

[pale rain]

I agree

[midnight nimbus]

and you can one hit kill

[green elm]

oh shit right

the dumbass fucking sniper

[merry ivy]

MG42 is so fun, its very simple

their guns go pew pew

my gun goes BRRRRRRRRRT

[undone steppe]

i havent played cod since black opsl lol

[green elm]

they got super weird with guns

[pale rain]

Black ops 2 was good imo

[green elm]

it’s like it winds up for a second and then spits out three bullets all hitscan

[pale rain]

Black ops 4 is meh, only good part is blackout

[merry ivy]

all of their guns are hitscan afaik

[green elm]

i believe so

[midnight nimbus]

not in BO4

[pale rain]

I used used to be more of a modern warfare person

But then I got into bf4

And i was hooked on battlefield lol

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[little fjord]

Has anyone else noticed you leave footprints in the snow on bfv... nice touch imho

[pale rain]

Yep

[merry ivy]

I love the sound of a Merlin engine

when those Spitfires fly over 👌

[sonic rampart]

You also did in bf1

[undone steppe]

yeah ive tracked a few people that way lol

[midnight nimbus]

BO4 Assault Pack is a good model for how giving ammo to your teammates should work

[sonic rampart]

But in bf5 they stay there

And in bf1 they disappear

[merry ivy]

the game is the most beautiful one I’ve ever played and that’s not an exaggeration

it actually has colours

[pale rain]

Bfv?

[merry ivy]

there’s no desaturation filter, its not like I’m wearing grey tinted wax paper over my face

especially Rotterdam, that map absolutely pops

with the bright colours of shop signs, the reflection of the water, the blue skies and the green trees

[green elm]

who knew dying could look so beautiful

[merry ivy]

and the hills are alive

with the sound of BRRRRRRRRT

[green elm]

“listen to the hills. what do they say?”
“they warn us of support players on bipods”

[merry ivy]

once had a random squad with 4 supports and they were all using MG42’s and MG34’s

that was mildly terrifying

[icy sluice]

I wish there was an app on consoles that allowed us to change some video settings for specific games

Like... saturation and shit

Or a grey tint/filter on other games

[merry ivy]

can you change your screen’s saturation values?

[icy sluice]

I can but I mean for certain games

[merry ivy]

its a pain unfortunately

[dense bone]

yea but that changed all of it

[icy sluice]

I know GEMFX exists for PC

[merry ivy]

here’s a tip

[icy sluice]

And I use it for games like CoD.

[merry ivy]

wear grey tinted wax paper over your face

[icy sluice]

Like WaW has no color so I increase the saturation

Hah

[merry ivy]

or any colour depending on the mood you want

[green elm]

put a filter on your phone and then play looking through your phone

[little fjord]

That's what I do

[merry ivy]

if you want to go back to BF3 you get a light blue paper to stick to your face

EVERYTHING IS BLUE SOMEONE HELP

SANITATER

[sonic rampart]

Yesterday i had a terrible match

[icy sluice]

I end up server hopping more in this game than in 1

[sonic rampart]

Because a full squad of supporters were mmg sniping

[merry ivy]

why are the germans so obsessed with cleaning potatoes

sanitized taters

[sonic rampart]

And I as a sniper just couldnt snipe anymore

[green elm]

i server hop when i lag out

[merry ivy]

would be funny to coordinate a whole squad of MG42 users to peek up and fire on a single target

[green elm]

sanitater is a raptor

[merry ivy]

suddenly gets hit with a 4800 RPM burst from four guys

[sonic rampart]

Thats what I had lmao

[green elm]

haha holy shit

[merry ivy]

wonders why DICE didn’t fix netcode

omg insta death DICE pls fix

[sonic rampart]

It sucked

I litterly couldnt move

[merry ivy]

or get two squads

[sonic rampart]

And they bc had inf ammo

[merry ivy]

9600 RPM

now we’re talkin

[icy sluice]

My killstreaks have been getting longer though I've realized

Usually at the start of rounds I go on like 8-12 killstreaks not as recon tho

[green elm]

three squads

14k

[merry ivy]

some youtuber should get a full team of MG42s to fire on some poor sap

[green elm]

someone get jackfrags on the phone

[sonic rampart]

49 platoon

Doomer49

[icy sluice]

All 1200 rpm

[merry ivy]

yeah that guy could do it

38,400 RPM

[green elm]

@icy sluice i end up going on a kill streak or a death streak

[merry ivy]

yeahhhhhhhhhh nope

[green elm]

never in between

feelsbad

[icy sluice]

What's funny is that, every single time I go on a killstreak past 8 or so, it's a death streak

[sonic rampart]

Ive tried to roadkill people in a plane

[merry ivy]

DICE 1500 RPM MG42 when?

[green elm]

NO

STOP

[merry ivy]

yes

[green elm]

DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[merry ivy]

destiny wills it so

[green elm]

my poor suppressed face can’t take it

[sonic rampart]

^

[merry ivy]

1500 RPM with the 250 round belt when DICE

[green elm]

250

[sonic rampart]

Mmg + 6x scope + 2000 RPM

[green elm]

fucking ptsd

browning mg was enough

lmg sniper

[sonic rampart]

^

[merry ivy]

MG42 has a 250 round belt available

[green elm]

oh christ