If you have them a too good weapon it'd be dangerous
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
fallen rivet
1.9*
midnight nimbus
BFV is just a low KPM game
sleek tartan
^
midnight nimbus
because prone people look like rocks
fallen rivet
dunno about that
midnight nimbus
you have to run to attrition boxes all the time
sonic rampart
You lied
sleek tartan
I dislike operations and conquest, where there's more clusterfuck
sonic rampart
You have a kd of 8,82 😉
sleek tartan
xD
Also my kills per minute is lower because im learning to fly planes
with classes its 2.5
quasi depot
Operations were a lot of fun in BF1... I'm less than impressed with the ones in BFV
sonic rampart
lol
sleek tartan
sorry 2.15
fallen rivet
my stats are pretty trash because i spent the majority of the beginning getting the hang of the game
sonic rampart
Imo
fallen rivet
since i didnt catch any beta phases
sleek tartan
@fallen rivet not that I want to be a dick but I also had to learn the game
its something commonly said
tacit kelp
Why people are stupid? Tank.Panzestrom. One team want to destroy me. I destroy them (2 tanks) but hurt much (50hp). Guy jump to my tank and diidtnt built staion (above E point) I;m waited. Too long. Team get plane and destroy me
marble phoenix
i mean what trash stats look like?
quasi depot
Same... Playing with all other weapons didn't help either
fallen rivet
but dropping 3-4 kpm games is still fun
sleek tartan
those are nice stats regardless
yeah, it is. But in reality, you killed like 5-6
but you spent a good 20sec doing nothing
everytime you die
waiting for medic, looking for a spawn, getting ammo...
sonic rampart
Almost nobody builds the stations for tanks
tacit kelp
If go out he will steal my tank
solid hinge
@sonic rampart the allied planes are wack whatre you talkin about
quasi depot
The only time ive been playin as a Support was because I wanted to build all the things
idle rampart
you guys wanna hear a joke I heard
midnight nimbus
BFV just forces you to do a lot of things that aren't playing a FPS
idle rampart
competitive battlefield 5
quasi depot
Especially the tank stations
tacit kelp
Fornite
solid hinge
Planes aren't easy to get big kills on
idle rampart
its legitimately EA's way to ease you into MMO-like experiences
solid hinge
unless you're the JU
sonic rampart
They are not
sleek tartan
Yeah on the JU88 it's still quite easy to drop a lot of kills
idle rampart
it's basically them trying to make Battlefield slowly into destiny
midnight nimbus
duh, your teammates are NPCs
sleek tartan
not on the blenheim tho
sonic rampart
What are you talking about lmao
tacit kelp
Ju still OP
midnight nimbus
conquest is NPC slayer until you die to something random
tacit kelp
should be this circele in3 person
midnight nimbus
BF2 is garb
solid hinge
The spitfire is good, the blenheims are shit, the mosquito is a fatter slower spitfire
midnight nimbus
imagine being a BF2 defender in 2019
idle rampart
bf2 is not garbage, it was probably the closest the franchise got to doing shit right
Bf4 is close
quasi depot
Define right
midnight nimbus
0.7 base spread
solid hinge
Ju is the ultimate bomber
idle rampart
im not denying that bf2 wasnt perfect
im saying compared to BF3
or BF1
its miles better
solid hinge
The stuka gets a fuckin 1000kg bomb
stone plaza
Boomers don't get to have opinions about relevant battlefield games
sleek tartan
But I found a way to be insanely op on the blenheim @solid hinge
sonic rampart
Spitfires mk nva 2,5 kills/min
sonic rampart
2,9*
fading gyro
I haven’t had as much fun with BF as I currently am since 1942. I’m loving this game right now.
solid hinge
Y-you found a way to make blenheim... Not shit?
stone plaza
If you genuinely think BF2 was a good game that rewarded individual skill more than it did 'epic teamwork strats', go commit redeploy
solid hinge
I've gotta hear this
sleek tartan
opening dm
midnight nimbus
BF2 participation trophy class design
to match participation trophy guns you get to carry while getting vehicle dunked
lavish torrent
You die faster in this game then in bf4
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus was it you that asked about me leaving penta?
sorry got distracted
soft storm
Conquest is just bot lane
Prove me wrong
Suomi on Fjell TDM or Domination is like a fed Draven in bot lane, you just destroy
sleek tartan
yeah I left it after a big argument inside
2nd time someone clearly tried to trigger everyone else in the community, while being pretty toxic overall with no consequences
plus i dont take bullshit that well
one guy decided to kick everyone from the platoon he didn't know
you obviously can't do that on a big org
but the guy is still in penta
so gg to them
solid hinge
@idle rampart honestly why do you even keep playing the games if you think bf2 was the only good one
are you buying new battlefield games to own dice or what
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan wanted to join some kinda clan when I started getting gud at BF, but they're all so filled with autism
rather just play with people on discord who I know are good
sleek tartan
Try SemperFi if you are on PC
I know as a fact they are good people and a big community
not a "team" but they also make teams out of the comm
green elm
what we arguing about tonight bois
merry ivy
according to battlefield tracker my KD is now in the top 1%
Bernie Sanders wants to know your location
solid hinge
what we arguing about tonight bois
apparently battlefield v is a destiny-esque mmo
bright ravine
Hey so, i was just wondering... if a weapon comes out that can only be unlocked by completing an assignment, and i dont do the assignment, and the time for the assignment runs out, is that weapon lost forever?
bright ravine
Ohh ok thx
merry ivy
...which means you’re never getting it because of broken CC rewards
sonic rampart
Im in the top 8% of dogtags taken lol
bright ravine
What do you mean
sonic rampart
Idk stats
merry ivy
people past level 50 don’t get CC for anything other than daily assignments
bright ravine
Im sure they'll fix that
dense bone
i thought they DID fix it?
merry ivy
no, not yet
dense bone
oh
bright ravine
January patch will hopefully do it
dense bone
so they just reimbursed people?
dense bone
i thought people got stuff
merry ivy
maybe some people did?
midnight nimbus
change max rank to 10000000 so people stop crying about it
sonic rampart
Lol
sleek tartan
I would uncap levels
merry ivy
yes actually
dense bone
uncap is cool
bright ravine
Maybe some sort of prestige?
marble phoenix
uncap would be dope
dense bone
ehh, i dont like prestige
little fjord
I don't care about rank, I just want a way to farm cc
merry ivy
if they could give up on naming levels
sleek tartan
I never liked prestige, the fact that you had to give up all your progress was like... no man, no thank you
dense bone
people start acting like youre not good if you dont prestige
sleek tartan
but it would be nice to give people levels to grind
many just care about that
and you don't really change anything related to gameplay
marble phoenix
shit bf4 was crazy high ranks too
bright ravine
Bf5 has to little
marble phoenix
i think i finished at rank 133
sleek tartan
@merry ivy it would probably get prostituted into some kind of weird monster like the RSC is now
sonic rampart
I had to start over.. but I was like 47 on ps3 lol
merry ivy
I’d expect something similar to a Turner
pale rain
Lol that was back on my PS3
sonic rampart
Oh wait 74
pale rain
My 127 rank
merry ivy
yep
sleek tartan
and a fast reload
sonic rampart
Than I got it on ps4
pale rain
Yeah
marble phoenix
yea bf4 came out around the same time ps4 dropped
pale rain
Haven’t got it on mine
marble phoenix
yea that was aorudn the time COD was just trash
sonic rampart
It was like 8 euros for xmas
sleek tartan
in many aspects, it did the same mistakes than BFV
sleek tartan
it had horrible visibility, changed a lot of teh core aspects of the game, sold shit and got forgotten fast
but it kicked so many people out of cod forever
green elm
cod ghosts just felt like it didn’t have the fast pace of normal cod
sleek tartan
like BFV?
😛
yeah, it was a camper fest basically
BFV imho also has slowed the pace way too much, and with specially annoying methods
pale rain
I’ll be 100% honest I kinda enjoyed that game
sleek tartan
I could easily do 5 kills per minute on BF1
pale rain
Ghosts
icy steppe
BFV is miles better than any other Battlefield in terms of gunplay and TTK, in my opinion. BFV isn't the BF killer lol.
sonic rampart
^
marble phoenix
BFv is a top game in the series
pale rain
I agree
sleek tartan
@pale rain well, people taste's are very differnt.
sonic rampart
But there are still things to improve tho
sleek tartan
I hated it because of the camping
sonic rampart
^
gray glade
i was gonna think of a cool machinegun from BF1 but i realized BFV already has the best machine gun in history 😄
icy steppe
Every BF game is broken at launch anyway, we should be used to it by now. xD
green elm
i still think 1 did design best
sleek tartan
BFV for me is a different judgement
green elm
from sound to visuals
midnight nimbus
BFV has the most in the "stuff i hate a lot" category
sleek tartan
but im sure already knowing sale numbers that it did prety much kill BF
(so far)
it might change in the future though
midnight nimbus
but a good amount in the "loved" category
fallow cave
Does anyone know how to fix the bug which doesn't give you Ag m/42 even on winning grand operations
echo scroll
Do any of the Dev respond here or is this just for the public
sleek tartan
@echo scroll ive never seen one reply here sorry
echo scroll
ok cool thanks
icy steppe
I honestly don't like the downed but not out feature too much. It feels kinda eh to be downed after taking a sniper shot to the head.
echo scroll
have an issue
sleek tartan
so its up to luck
gray glade
some devs very occasionally replies to reddit i think
sleek tartan
xD
idle rampart
why would they reply on any media
its like no mans sky
any response is just going to open them to criticism
they oversold and now they need to actually shut up and fix the game
dense bone
except nms was a much worse game
solid hinge
i never got the sanitatar meme because i only play as women
idle rampart
NMS was oversold, it wasnt a terrible game
sonic rampart
What if I do @ + dice Hmm
dense bone
no it wasnt
idle rampart
NMS was oversold because they said it was multiplayer and it wasnt
midnight nimbus
dont think they check this, but they reply in some other discords
marble phoenix
did yall play battlefield hardline? lol
idle rampart
EA oversold because they said the game was ready
marble phoenix
i was killing that
idle rampart
its fucking clearly now
dense bone
and bfv is missing dragging
sonic rampart
Sure
idle rampart
not*
idle rampart
if you think this game was launch-ready you're sipping on some strong koolaid
this was closed beta build at best
dense bone
i didnt get it on launch
idle rampart
the alpha played like BC2
sleek tartan
@idle rampart Played NMS on release and BFV since closed alpha
dense bone
but im minority
solid hinge
buying triple a games at launch
idle rampart
we legit thought playing the alpha this was gonna be namedchanged to BC3
sleek tartan
not even on closed alpha was bfv as bad as nms on release
idle rampart
thats how offputting the alpha was
green elm
buying games
sleek tartan
even If I do think BFV was rushed out and unfinished
idle rampart
you can't tell me you didnt play the alpha and go "this is reskinned bc2"
midnight nimbus
and fun StG
sleek tartan
nah not really the camped a lot
solid hinge
medic with the selb sounds absolutely horrifying
sleek tartan
because their weapons were bad at close range
icy steppe
The BF community has ALWAYS been complaining about something in every single title in the franchise, so every communication they make will be received with criticism @idle rampart
sonic rampart
Several people are typing...
sleek tartan
they should add SLRs that are good at medium range
echo scroll
Our group still hire a BF1 server and just B4 BF5 was released we lost the text in the Admin area where there used to be "Kick Ban Move " of players now there nothing !
midnight nimbus
why even use the StG when Ribey exists
solid hinge
stupid ribey
pulsar valve
solid hinge
It's an automatic semi-auto
sonic rampart
Stumgewehr is better tho
green elm
stupid sexy ribey
sleek tartan
@oblique parcel I personally had to explain to some people at dice that people dont react well to change
and why
and people still argued it
just sayiong
green elm
liking bf3 is cool now snutten
marble phoenix
STG 44 >>>>
fallen rivet
nostalgia 
echo scroll
Admins do its handy
sleek tartan
if you can't atract enough players to compensate those who didnt adapt to change
you get the issue bfv had
in very simple terms
obviously
its more complicated than just that
sonic rampart
Lol
icy steppe
Many people didn't buy the game because some dip did a counter-advertisement for his own game. But honestly, after having the fun I had playing BFV so far I don't even care what they said anyway.
sleek tartan
Actually when I talk about this, I pretty much talk exactly about what happened in all those games
all had clear examples of why change is hard
and why you have to compensate it with attracting new people
bit of oversimplification probably but still true
sleek tartan
@oblique parcel im the kind of guy that both loves all of those games still trashes them everytime I can with every bad thing they had
I'm just generally a f****** prick
lul
sleek tartan
It's just that I love them, and it naturally leads me to talk strongly about everything I dislike
I dont expect eveyrone to agree though
I think I managed to achieve that lately
icy steppe
As long as you don't turn into one of those cucks that goes on Dice's Youtube and Facebook to insult the devs and their families, you're good.
dense bone
^
sonic rampart
But Thats kind of bs
sleek tartan
No... actually I have a really strong dislike for people who take this to personal levels
dense bone
or blasts your rants in a bf chat where it means nothing
sonic rampart
You dont achieve anything with it
sleek tartan
I could dislike massively the work of a dev
even think he should be fired
but still respect him as a human
silver scroll
Yeah
green elm
we love you dice it’s just a phase
sleek tartan
I think DICE is having a phase itself too
icy steppe
Look at BF1, it got tons of criticism for not having many different weapons; but it still sold well. And I think that's a far bigger issue than a WW2 game with women lol.
sleek tartan
but as we say here in spain, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs
green elm
wise spaniards
icy steppe
Hahah
sonic rampart
Lol
As we say in mother russia Dice dont make game, players make game
Jk im not russian
sleek tartan
In Russia games make you
green elm
in russia, battlefield fixes dice
dense bone
isnt it "in soviet russia..."
sleek tartan
too long, one handed typing
green elm
no
little fjord
As we say here in Austenasia "gamer communities are a bunch of negative nancies"
dense bone
i saw some weird fat bugs bunny ugundan knuckles cross thing
little fjord
Need that emoji
dense bone
you need, these aliaz switches
sonic rampart
I really want to post a meme but idk if I can
dense bone
is that the name?
wild cape
Big Chungus is a good meme CMV
wild cape
Titanfall 3? Where?
idle rampart
so why is it on aerodome tanks can sit out of bounds but less than 50 yards from the cap?
icy steppe
Big Chungus is horrible
sonic rampart
Yes
icy steppe
Ugandan Knuckles is horrible
dense bone
@idle rampart because dice butchered aerodrome balancing
sonic rampart
You cant post memes in this server darn it
idle rampart
sitting outside the bounds
dense bone
germans get 3 points RIGHT by them, AND C is even closer to them too
solid hinge
god titanfall 3 pls
dense bone
they get a bunch of cover as well
pale rain
I’m pissed
idle rampart
like sorry but after I finish this last unlock this game is going on backburner for so fucking long
sleek tartan
@idle rampart becuase when they don't people place mines where they spawn
just like in hamada
solid hinge
Aerodrome is fucked always
dense bone
british side on aero is cancer
sleek tartan
with the planes
pale rain
Because school is starting back
dense bone
i KEEP getting brit side too
idle rampart
and backpeddling when low?
idle rampart
sorry but thats shit balance and shit mechanics
solid hinge
Aerodrome conquest and aerodrome GO are awful
sleek tartan
Well, I don't think they should. But I also don't think they should be forced into the frontline in their current state
(they suck at CQB)
idle rampart
again, whoever thought that was a fun or good idea needs to be reprimanded, this isn't like "oh gee we found this during testing"
on PAPER
it sounds like a bad idea
sleek tartan
a middle ground would be better
dense bone
"needs to be reprimanded" xD
sleek tartan
xD
idle rampart
well the one they toted as being "competitive"
idle rampart
because they STILL are trying to make people think this game isnt the minecraft of shooters
sleek tartan
(clue, it doesnt involve conqust spawns on vehicles)
also, I know personally how hard florian works
sleek tartan
how much he fights to bring fair stuff to the game
fallen rivet
christ this dude is either trolling or really that dumb
dense bone
@oblique parcel i cant fucking do it, granted, im playing medic only atm...
sleek tartan
and how he doesnt get listened when its not his task to do something as much as he woudl like
idle rampart
so why didnt he realize the game wasnt done?
dense bone
@idle rampart maybe he did, but he cant stop it
idle rampart
this game is like, a single menu error away from being as bad as Atlas to me
misty night
whats coming on 5 january?
dense bone
i cant take you serious anymore
misty night
5th
sleek tartan
He is core gameplay designer, he designs (doesnt do it himself, he tries to develop the idea, then other developers make it from there)
dense bone
trying to compare atlas to bfv xD
idle rampart
Atlas had just as bad as a launch dude, the reviews are changing
sleek tartan
and that only includes stuff such as movement, how weapons fire
dense bone
stop
sleek tartan
how soldiers move and their animations
icy steppe
@misty night Hopefully new factions and guns.
idle rampart
I didnt buy it but comparing this game to Atlas is pretty fair
sleek tartan
stuff like this
idle rampart
the game is half off already
dense bone
just stop dude
fallen rivet
this pengoo dude had no idea what 'core gameplay' meant and is this stubborn
dense bone
your other points were ehh, but this one is just.. wow
fallen rivet
its not worth the effort
idle rampart
ok bud, at least atlas didn't cut the game by half price one month after launch
fallen rivet
to talk to this dude lmao
sleek tartan
I always try to talk
idle rampart
core gameplay, what is it?
dense bone
it should
dense bone
pengoo, what youre in game name?
idle rampart
"and that only includes stuff such as movement, how weapons fire"
dude
every day we're finding trivial bugs
didnt someone just post this morning that tapping during auto desyncs your firing pattern?
sleek tartan
core gameplay includes stuff such as:
Soldier movement
Weapon balance
...and I can't really think of much more
idle rampart
vaulting is still massively broken
I've had the same vault bugs since BF3 happen to me
dense bone
vaulting is broken?
sleek tartan
the next update brings a big fix to vaulting
idle rampart
LMGs don't bipod sometimes
icy steppe
Pengoo, how long have you been playing BF for?
dense bone
i hardly have problems with vaulting
sleek tartan
and they have explained that it is much more complex than you might think
idle rampart
or shoot the edge its mounted to
midnight nimbus
Florian doesn't do weapon balance, Julian does
idle rampart
Tell Julian to lay off the LSD
maiden steppe
gonna start using MMGs again when they fix bipods
idle rampart
because he's way off
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus they work hand by hand afaik
dense bone
^
idle rampart
im sure thats a good thing, by the way I heard the game sold tons of copies
glad they were so successful
dense bone
"but i tested bf years ago"
midnight nimbus
balance is done based upon ranges and hitrates only
dense bone
its made millions in sales
fallen rivet
it's almost like the marketing team is an entirely different department than the dev team
idle rampart
its made millions less in sales than its counterparts*
midnight nimbus
maybe DICE will ask for your help on BF by Pengoo next
dense bone
sooo... while not good for bf titles, its still millions
dense bone
oh no
dense bone
they made millions of dollars less than normal
midnight nimbus
I'm not a defender of BFV. but gun balance is not what's wrong with the game at all
sleek tartan
I'm getting into my hazmat suit right now to text my next messege, brb
dense bone
sounds petty
idle rampart
I mean gun balance and color palettes, plus obvious bf bugs are my main complaints
dense bone
color palettes?
idle rampart
the balancing choices on some maps is pretty terrible though
dense bone
youre an odd one
idle rampart
everything fucking blends, there's been enough people saying this
midnight nimbus
color grading is AIDS, i agree
idle rampart
turn your shit to low and see it
dense bone
cares more about color palette than unbalanced maps...
midnight nimbus
color grading is a huge accessibility problem
sleek tartan
you discovered the moon there
idle rampart
because shit won't be blended in and impossible to see some guy camping
midnight nimbus
heavy soldier glow
idle rampart
they shouldnt be able to use a bush as a literal gillie suit
period
this isnt ARMA
sleek tartan
making them more "shaded" would only decrease how much you can see them
green elm
bf1 icons on their head lol
midnight nimbus
not shading
icy steppe
I mean I had problems seeing enemies when I started playing but I got used to it and can see them well now
¯_(ツ)_/¯
idle rampart
reflectivity, but thats still shader-related
midnight nimbus
glossy doesn't help when you have forced TAA
sleek tartan
by making them more "shaded" I understand increasing "shades" which can only mean you decreased the luminosity levels on them
sleek tartan
And glossy does the opposite
it reflects light
"Gloss" effect is achieved by increasing reflectivity and light dispersion on reflex
midnight nimbus
eh, end of the day, weapon balance is largely pretty good, it's class balance that's the issue
idle rampart
either way I'm not just in here to rage and shit, I want to actively see them make changes as I've played this franchise as a main since 1942, but holy fuck the last few games has been a wild ride with the management
dense bone
although its annoying how hard it is to see people at times, this isnt quake
fallen rivet
idle rampart
they just dont know what the game should be
fallen rivet
theyve been more responsive to community feedback than in the past previous titles
dense bone
@idle rampart anything here basically does nothing, so you are here to rage
idle rampart
I think their competion doesnt help them, because compared to COD this game is dead as fuck
misty night
@fallen rivet very good joke
fallen rivet
idle rampart
I hate COD but saying this game takes more skill than the latest COD is a stretch by so far
green elm
wat
icy steppe
????
sleek tartan
I think that the visibility problem is a very complex one and goes in hand with a lot of different aspects that all had a conjunction on Battlefield V. Some of them involve how games look more real nowadays, others are technical limitations that come in hand to the previous. Some of them are a matter of design choice. And some of them are a direct result of player feedback (yes, I mean 3d spotting)
misty night
Why arent they lisening to the community then
idle rampart
competitive games attract more steady crowds
sleek tartan
I challenge any of you to go to one of the old Battlefield games that he loves, and has 3d spotting
and tell me how visibility is
idle rampart
im glad 3d spotting is gone
dense bone
@misty night they arent huh? we have a different ttk than what the community wants right?
green elm
they listen to the youtubers who are supposed to be the voice of the community
idle rampart
honestly that shit wasnt helping the game
dense bone
they got rid of goofy customization on their own
idle rampart
what would have been nice though is more classes having that ability
sleek tartan
@idle rampart yeah, you are glad it's gone. That's why you complain about not being able to see people
logic 101
icy steppe
"CoD needing skill" and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself
dense bone
like seriously, how do you think they arent listening?
idle rampart
im glad hitting Q and running through the game no longer works
because it was dumb
I'd just be spamming Q all day
I wish each class had an object to do this
sleek tartan
Spamming Q was already fixed in Battlefield 1
dense bone
@misty night give me a direct example of dice not listening
idle rampart
like the sniper
sleek tartan
if you spam, it wont spot anything
misty night
@dense bone well they changed it without asking a community just some people
sleek tartan
next
idle rampart
it was but it was easy to game it
misty night
"New ones"
dense bone
@misty night they TRIED changing it, but knew people didnt want it, so they put out 2 modes to test it for feedback
misty night
no1 wanted it
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan 3D spotting is very good, but it's not a visibility fix
sleek tartan
btw, why do you hate BF games since 1942 (which many included 3d spotting) but now you hate the one in which you can't see people?
dense bone
a few vocal didnt want it
midnight nimbus
visibility should be good without spotting
idle rampart
you could legit just slow-spam in bf1 just as much as the previous games, if anything it makes it more worthwhile since everyone wasnt doing it anymore
dense bone
theres a group that were very vocal about not wanting it
icy steppe
I'm pretty sure the TTK change were just sneaky under the curtain tests for Firestorm, but I could be wrong
idle rampart
im fine with spotting when it applies in a reasonable sense
dense bone
i agreed, and i said they needed a buff
midnight nimbus
remove spot spam entirely, go full Metal Gear spotting
dense bone
but i liked higher ttk
misty night
u get my point
idle rampart
medics are fine
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus how exactly do you achieve the levels of visual fidelity of modern games (that include lots of particules and high detail objects) and make visibility good in a game like Battlefield?
misty night
smgs were shit
sleek tartan
just try to explain to me
idle rampart
I swear why do people think medic is shit right now
dense bone
dice seemingly liked higher ttk, but community didnt like it and now its back
idle rampart
I stomp as medic
dense bone
i dont get your point
green elm
lol a giant ding when you see someone @midnight nimbus
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan fuck high fidelity
misty night
smgs are useless then
dense bone
youre just spewing typical complaints and dont know hat youre talking about
midnight nimbus
BF4 graphics are fine
sleek tartan
You are lying to your self if you think that people dont care about graphics
midnight nimbus
I know they do
sleek tartan
its a top 5 reasons to people in reality
idle rampart
I do but after turning the game down to potato
and seeing people laying in arras
no thanks
ill take potato
midnight nimbus
but design the game like BF4. map first, graphics second
idle rampart
I legit see people
hiding
in cover
on low
stop
thats so fucking broken
its not even funny
midnight nimbus
let the game run real well on potato settings
sleek tartan
Do you guys realize how COD is very often critiziced by its graphics
jovial forge
You talking about that Danny video of low graphics for semi hax visibility?
sleek tartan
that provide exactly what you want?
sleek tartan
and how "its just a reskin of the old games"
midnight nimbus
BFV graphics would be fine if the low settings went lower
idle rampart
it can
midnight nimbus
that was the first thing I noticed in the first alpha
sleek tartan
IMHO low settings already look shit
sleek tartan
but have a bad visibility regardless
dense bone
i play on low, looks good to me
midnight nimbus
well, roblox graphics should be a setting
jovial forge
Lowering your graphics to see through things isn't right
idle rampart
maybe EA should fix their game then
idle rampart
and people wouldnt be able to low-graphic deag kids
sleek tartan
And as I said, I run the game on minimum
midnight nimbus
I'm gonna use it until BFV low settings are at least as clear as BF1, which already kinda sucks
sleek tartan
and visibility is till really bad
and it comes down to stuff such as a complex maps
particles
idle rampart
turn AA/AF down
sleek tartan
weather
idle rampart
like force AA off entirely
sleek tartan
people hiding
idle rampart
AA/AF are the main culprits for that and I'm not a graphic designer, but just screwing with those values can make the textures render entirely missing/different
which ot me indiciated either someone took a shortcut or something isnt right
because thats not how it was in other games, or at least this noticeable
sleek tartan
honestly, to me people using roblox setting with nvidia inspector are pretty much cheating
dense bone
^
midnight nimbus
imo, it's no different than customizing your mouse dpi
dense bone
...
sleek tartan
lol
idle rampart
I played two rounds just now and I'll say its pretty close to cheating but there's definitely downsides
you dont see shit
midnight nimbus
you're using software, bundled with your hardware
idle rampart
so you can be shooting a log etc
jovial forge
People will always find a method to cheese though
dense bone
one is common knowledge, one is a weird work around to get a huge advantage
icy steppe
People who use Roblox settings are tryhard sweaty fucks who probably jerk off to getting great scores in BF matches
idle rampart
that being said, I've already reverted
sleek tartan
come on kht, I consider you inteligent.
idle rampart
it felt too cheese
idle rampart
dude no offense but he's not even editing shit
its literally a slider
on the nvidia settings
if thats cheating then I cheat massively on every game
misty night
Why is 50 lvl max? and not 100?
dense bone
the problem imo is that people are doing things that are not intended
and not as simple as changing a slider
idle rampart
because the game allows them to
icy steppe
They ran out of names for the ranks @misty night
idle rampart
maybe if they had an anticheat
dense bone
doesnt mean its not "cheating"
midnight nimbus
I'm not gonna play a shooter without headphones, am I gonna play a shooter where I can't see anything?
idle rampart
- I remember now*
dense bone
whatever arbitrary rules dictate cheating
idle rampart
how'd that pay off?
midnight nimbus
BFV visibility is insulting
green elm
1 went all the way to 150
midnight nimbus
I'm not gonna consider a fix for it to be cheating
sleek tartan
The correct similarity would be playing with headphones that also mute irrelevant sounds
not the one you described
dense bone
^
sleek tartan
if you are seriious
which i doubt
i think you are just trying to legitimize your behaviour
dense bone
^
midnight nimbus
playing roblox vs stock visibility is like playing with headphones vs speakers
green elm
🍿
sleek tartan
won't go deeper into the subject
dense bone
basically, if youre not using the game with "out of the box settings/intentions" i think you are cheating, even if thats not the definition of cheating or who decides what cheating is
midnight nimbus
I don't care whether people think it's cheating or not, I'm not gonna play a game that doesn't work out of the box if I can change it
idle rampart
^
midnight nimbus
I don't personally consider it cheating
midnight nimbus
and if DICE isn't doing anything about it, idrc
idle rampart
it'd be my last EA product
dense bone
like csgo with bhop, it was just bind to scroll, but that wasnt how the game was intended to be played or used, so i consider it cheating
idle rampart
period
sleek tartan
I do consider it cheating because you can literally see me behind objects that don't let me see you
that's as much as I will comment
midnight nimbus
you can roblox too
idle rampart
like, why bother with EA; I legit only buy BF games and they're going down the toilet
solid hinge
wtf
sleek tartan
<@&174949751152836608>
green elm
@solid hinge fk kinda server is that
idle rampart
if you feel its cheating, then post the video more often and get it reported/fixed
solid hinge
daddy
idle rampart
otherwise lol@u
solid hinge
@green elm
idle rampart
u mad cuz we have sliders
placid quarry
sup @sleek tartan
midnight nimbus
I don't really care about macroing either tbh
idle rampart
macroing bothers me a bit
because if everyone macros then its just a giant scriptfest
its a slippery slope
dense bone
i dont care, i just think its immature to do it and act the way you do when others frown on it
sleek tartan
well... check log... someone mistakenly thought that this discord had some nazi simbols as icons, but he brought them
idle rampart
but the slider?
cold trail
What’s up?
idle rampart
thats graphical settings
sleek tartan
and posted them
midnight nimbus
I think it's fair game, devs should design a game that's robust and protects against these things
or makes them unnecessary
midnight nimbus
I think BF1 is a good example of macro proof
jovial cargo
My viewpoint has always been, if you don't want to play iwth people doing stuff like macros or changing graphics settings, consoles are there for you
idle rampart
thats fine, enjoy that game
dense bone
cant change what youre doing
idle rampart
#qualitygameplay
dense bone
ill just call you out on your bs
cold trail
@sleek tartan Thanks, we’ll look into it.
midnight nimbus
literally zero reason to macro in BF1, or use roblox graphics
idle rampart
thats fine, and I'll call you out for being too lazy to move a slider
midnight nimbus
BFV? whew
maiden lantern
what settings did u change and what did u get from it?
idle rampart
AA/AF in the nvidia control panel
midnight nimbus
> dignity in vidya
sleek tartan
Well... well...
When I play the M1A1 I often think that it would benefit of a macro, obviously. But that doens't push me to do it
dense bone
see, and you make a joke of that
idle rampart
I do my edits via registries but you should be able to custom set the AA/AF supersampling off entirely
sleek tartan
you can do macro recoils on CSGO too
dense bone
which just shows who you are
sleek tartan
and it doesnt make the game less enjoyable or worse
its people abusing those mechanics
that do make it worse
imho
midnight nimbus
https://youtu.be/SqMkpZVUbXI instructions in the desc i think
maiden lantern
dayum im doing that now lol
sleek tartan
imainge if CSGO changed the recoil because you can macro it
it would take away the skill component
of knowing how to do it yourself
is this a good game desing?
idle rampart
this game has recoil patterns that are so sloppily implemented that firing once during a full-auto burst resets the entire recoil pattern
midnight nimbus
I think fixed recoil patterns are a meh mechanic
sleek tartan
up to debate
green elm
holy shit i thought roblox was an exaggeration @midnight nimbus
idle rampart
so I don't think florian had anything to work with
if that was his design/engineering
shame on him
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus they always have some minor variance
but that's the whole point
so you can develop muscle memory
midnight nimbus
well, BFV is a pattern on top of random recoil
midnight nimbus
idt Florian is huge on it
sleek tartan
I did not like the spread or recoil increase in bf1
idle rampart
which makes no sense, just make guns have slightly more deviation based on range
midnight nimbus
and macroing the BFV patterns isn't very helpful
fallen rivet
? didnt you state earlier that you think fps games are brainless because they lack mechanics? @midnight nimbus
idle rampart
and by that I mean very mininmal
IE smgs should have deviation at 200m
if they dont stop
thats not how games work
fallen rivet
having fixed recoil patterns would introduce more mechanical skill
dense bone
...
midnight nimbus
rather see something more dynamic
toxic raven
Like csgo?
dense bone
you are one conflicting person
placid quarry
Next time someone is contacting moderators, instead of using @.moderator - please DM @strange osprey . It's more efficient for us, makes the report anonymous to prevent drama, etc. Regardless, thanks for reporting
sleek tartan
okay sorry
placid quarry
no worries 😉
midnight nimbus
like what BF1 attempted: variable bursts with variable resets based upon variable distance
mossy badge
Woooooo, after a week of not playing BFV, i go to play GO to do the new TOW chapter
GUESS WHAT
sleek tartan
always forget it when it comes down to doing it
mossy badge
ITS NOT WORKING
midnight nimbus
except it was too hard, so they ditched the BF1 reset model
sleek tartan
i dont really care about someone being mad at me for it tho
mossy badge
FUCKING WONDERFUL
dense bone
new TOW is out?
sleek tartan
you should use logic and think "hmm I should probably not post this here"
mossy badge
Well Chapter 4
icy steppe
@dense bone He's talking about the one that gives you the AG gun.
dense bone
oohhh
mossy badge
I SPEND AN HOUR PLAYING GRAND OPERATIONS, I WIN SAID OPERATION
mossy badge
IT DOESN'T FUCKING COUNT
icy steppe
I never had problems with ToW tbh
green elm
please stop yelling
midnight nimbus
AG is good for big brain headshotting
dense bone
ive never had problems with bfv other than 1 crash and a couple of stutters
midnight nimbus
best in the game for headshotting
dense bone
@midnight nimbus m1a1 better
midnight nimbus
no
fallen rivet
midnight nimbus
M1A1 loses HS+HS fast
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus basically you share thoughts with the guy who designed it. He thought it was insanly skillfull
dense bone
how does it lose?
sleek tartan
but it was quite unpopular
dense bone
are they both not 2 shot hs kill, same rof?
roughly same accuracy
one just has more bullets in mag
midnight nimbus
M1A1 loses HS+HS at 30m
dense bone
and reloads about the same
midnight nimbus
and has 5BTK after 50m
sleek tartan
im not gonna argue that you are wrong, that you should change your ideas, or that you must stop using macros and roblox graphics. but this is a quite unpopular approach all together to online games
solid hinge
Teammate steals an enemy tank and is so proud of himself that he drives the tank to the back of the map and proceeds to not contribute to the team. Sector lost in 30 seconds.
dense bone
both not that close and i doubt anyone here is making use of hshs at that range consistent enough
sleek tartan
so if you designed one game based on those ideas... you can't be surprsied as pikachu if it doesnt turn out right
dense bone
go m1a1
midnight nimbus
I don't macro, but I'm saying that a games should be designed so that they aren't even viable
fallen rivet
honestly using scenarios in a vacuum assuming no other factors is pointless
dense bone
so you want rng?
midnight nimbus
as with roblox graphics, my thoughts are already down
fallen rivet
m1a1 and g1-5 are better because they have better kill potential between reloads
dense bone
who wants rng in gaming.. i know i dont
midnight nimbus
> rng
lol
sleek tartan
Well, what I said about "non macroble" recoils is also said too. It goes straight into developing a mechanical skill. And I like that approach better.
midnight nimbus
the venn diagram between anti-rngers and anti-CoD screamers in the BF community is a circle
dense bone
thats a general statement
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan yeah, I want to see hrec return to semis
increasing hrec sits as an option, but it's unused
sleek tartan
hahahaha somewhat true but at the same time so shallow, the diagram between pro and anti anything is so huge and so diverse, that the community would never agree on anything at all
have you considered it?
dense bone
quality of youre posts @midnight nimbus are going down, and that has nothing to do with agreeing with you or not
sleek tartan
one guy that supports your views on gunplay maybe wants insane graphics
one guy that supports your views on graphics loves mechanical skill
merry ivy
I don’t know why people complain about long exit times, it gives me plenty of time to find a good job, get a house, retire, write my wills
midnight nimbus
I think insane graphical potential should exist
sleek tartan
you can see how it grows to an insane point soon
midnight nimbus
and mechanical skill has a place
but I don't think they are the end all be all the community thinks they are
I don't think of them in absolute terms, that's all
sleek tartan
But your views on the min settings go straight into "fairness" for everyone who doesn't want those graphics
and therefore, they can not coexist
merry ivy
hey now roblox graphics actually have texture unlike the scummy stuff people do to this game
midnight nimbus
insane graphical potential should exist alongside very low graphical options
sleek tartan
the options available can only be so big untill it becomes an asset against fairness
midnight nimbus
I don't think fairness matters in this scenario tbh
maiden lantern
did them changes, testing to see if they work
midnight nimbus
people who care about winning tend not to run ultra anyways
sleek tartan
fariness matters a lot in any first person shooter, that is by extension competitive, no matter what people say about it
there are few absolute truths in life
but some exists and it has some merit to see and respect them
icy steppe
Honestly do you even have fun playing BFV in roblox settings?
maiden lantern
why wouldnt u
midnight nimbus
I think perfect gameplay balance isn't necessarily the ultimate goal
maiden lantern
graphics != fun
sleek tartan
hahahaha I can only giggle at you thinking that "perfect gameplay balance" is applicable to this matter
icy steppe
I know graphics don't define fun in anyway, but if I wanted to play a game that looks like it was made by some bootleg team of programmers in their first year of university, I'd play those Roblox FPS servers
sleek tartan
I would describe it more like basic gameplay balance
midnight nimbus
all i'd ask for in a perfect BF is that all low settings gives a bit more fidelity than BF1 all low
sleek tartan
thats were we have different base views
midnight nimbus
I wouldn't even want roblox options ideally
I want existing options to not make roblox graphics remotely necessary
sleek tartan
I would strive to always limitting visual fidelity to a degree where there is enough visual clarity for the intended gameplay
icy steppe
What do you mean exactly with "low settings gives a bit more fidelity"?
sleek tartan
and that you should listen to the community but not exaclty do what they say
but obviously if a really big chunk of it says that visibility is an issue
you have to act upon it
not have it unaltered since beta
cough
midnight nimbus
I agree with you, I fixed up fidelity and clarity
all low = should be slightly more clear than BF1 all low
make maxed out as pretty as you want
sleek tartan
There are some games like CSGO right now that achieve a "good" visual fidelity, without going into simplistic graphics
sure, they do use some easy shaders
midnight nimbus
a lot of design features shouldn't exist either
fire in the map creates a lot of issues
same with smoke
sleek tartan
someone on the map design friggin loves fire in the maps
midnight nimbus
better contrast in colors
sleek tartan
Yes, I would argue (and have already suggested even in a written direct form) to include more artificial lighting
yes, the game will look worse
but its a price to pay
we can't really have all this shady areas in the map
they are such an issue
I can't include images here since im not trusted
but I did two map fixes suggestions for domination
let me hand them to you
so you can have an eye on what my ideal would be
midnight nimbus
already pmed