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dense bone
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like, i thnk most of hamada sucks, but once you get towards g,f, and e its super fun

solid hinge
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If you play for B and D it's funner

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shot through walls - accross the map - KD 249:1

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Mad props to the guy who killed him

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yes

marble phoenix
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yeaaa that side of the bridge on hamada better, @dense bone

dense bone
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one of my favorite areas, love the verticality

solid hinge
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The problem with hamada conquest is the allied starts off with no points

dense bone
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but yea, most of the map sucks

marble phoenix
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damn im ready to lock in now

solid hinge
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You have to spend a few minutes driving a transport up to G because otherwise your team will just run and die over and over at B and A

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I like the C flag on hamada

dense bone
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@solid hinge oh yea, FUCK the slr challenges, these are fucking cancer and are dropping my stats a shit ton just trying to get them done

wild cape
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The hamada airborne map or whatever it is is pretty wack, visibility is terrible

solid hinge
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@dense bone I've given up on them entirely

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Not worth it

main grove
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Why has there been pretty much total radio silence from DICE over the last couple of weeks

solid hinge
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Christmas break

fallen rivet
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holidays lol

main grove
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Medic is long over due for their new guns

marble phoenix
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shit i'll swap a assault gun out to get the thompson in the assualt class

main grove
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Bah

dense bone
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like seriously, wtf, lets make a gun that is basically only for body shots (2btk for head and body) and dont give them a nydar sight, and tell them they have to get headshots in objectives....

marble phoenix
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i like the drum on them

solid hinge
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im still marvelling that bfv actually frequently gets new weapons

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reporting cheaters works easy in BFV : scorebord - klick name - klick on "profile" lower left corner - and report the damn guy

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Yeah the SLRs really aren't.. designed for headshots

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At all

marble phoenix
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any idea when the next patch is?

solid hinge
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Stupid objective headshot challenges

marble phoenix
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i know they said early 2019

solid hinge
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Fucking awful

craggy estuary
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yeah but are they cheating or just really good?

dense bone
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you try at range, and their sights suck, the ROF means most people will move by the time you get your 2nd shot at range

craggy estuary
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should be this month @marble phoenix '

dense bone
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for semi i got the 20 hs obj challenge done for 2 guns in like 6 games total

main grove
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I'd honestly rather have to do something ridiculously grindy to get gold skins like get 400 kills or something

midnight nimbus
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medic is getting the most upcoming guns

idle rampart
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this game is hilarious on potato mode

midnight nimbus
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like by far

dense bone
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for just 10 hs obj kill with model 8 took me FOREVER

marble phoenix
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praying hands @craggy estuary

solid hinge
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The only advantage the SLRs have over semis is they don't have to headshot

midnight nimbus
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@idle rampart it's gud

craggy estuary
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@marble phoenix no need to pray....the next part of tides of war starts this month

solid hinge
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ptthlplp

midnight nimbus
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medic is getting 9(?) iirc

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I think assault might only get 1

marble phoenix
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They need to add some more assignments

wild cape
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I’m an AMD user so potato mode wouldn’t work for me - not that I’d use it. I like the graphics

midnight nimbus
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a lot of new MMGs

marble phoenix
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that dont require me to switch classes

midnight nimbus
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there's a potato mode workaround for AMD

dense bone
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yay new mmgs...

solid hinge
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assignments are lameo

main grove
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@midnight nimbus how do you know?

solid hinge
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its just style points for weapon skins at the moment

midnight nimbus
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😉

marble phoenix
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yup thats fine lol

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theres some more epic gear out there i want

midnight nimbus
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a lot of the upcoming medic guns are garb though

main grove
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I thought that there was only 3 datamined smgs

steep radish
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Wait

solid hinge
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tfw 20 smgs all with the same stats

sleek verge
steep radish
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They’re adding more smg’s?

solid hinge
main grove
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Sterling, weird bipod smg and that one that's just a copy of the MP28

midnight nimbus
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3 more SMGs, 9 total medic guns

steep radish
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@sleek verge thanks

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what

wild cape
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This is a bit of a noob question - how do you get the missions for those cool gear sets?

midnight nimbus
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one of the SMGs might be really good

steep radish
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the fuck

solid hinge
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bipod smg

midnight nimbus
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if the stats don't change

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like busted brokenly good

solid hinge
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@wild cape level that class up

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I think?

main grove
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Didn't they also find two new weapons classes which were carbines and machine pistols

steep radish
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Add some fucking variety to the medic class

solid hinge
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What are the stats like Kht

main grove
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Which are mostly likely going to be tanker and pilot weapons

steep radish
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jess christ

solid hinge
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Hooray

marble phoenix
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if they add carbines i hope its for all classes

wild cape
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Ah ok thanks ayla

marble phoenix
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similar to bf4

midnight nimbus
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carbines are unusable tier terrible

solid hinge
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PERFECR

green elm
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hello

midnight nimbus
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i'd rather play BF2 than play BFV with carbines

marble phoenix
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aku was my joint

solid hinge
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It's not a real game unless you're using shit

steep radish
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M4 here

midnight nimbus
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i'd actually rather play fortnite on my phone than play BF2 as well

steep radish
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my favorite

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@midnight nimbus n

green elm
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did u mean bf1 carbines or bf4 carbines

steep radish
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o

marble phoenix
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bf4 carbines

steep radish
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what?

idle rampart
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so yeah, I switch the game on potato mode

steep radish
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Those were good

green elm
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like, acwr was my shit but bf1 carbines were ass

midnight nimbus
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BFV carbines are shit

idle rampart
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I get sniped by someone from their base

steep radish
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Wdym

solid hinge
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wheres my mauser with stock

idle rampart
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I snipe him back

midnight nimbus
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will be shit

idle rampart
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shocker, people are potato modding the game

solid hinge
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Oh I noticed something about potato mode on console

idle rampart
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you cant potato mode console

green elm
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if ur talking about pistol carbines yea those are pretty shit

idle rampart
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as far as I know

marble phoenix
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potato mode = ?

solid hinge
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If you're far away from people the fields don't load in

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So you can just shoot people lying down in nice yellow floors

idle rampart
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potato mode = turn off settings in your nvidia profile to make all the vegetation invisible

midnight nimbus
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like 2/9 upcoming medic guns will be class defining

solid hinge
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Easy headshots

midnight nimbus
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7/9 are meh

idle rampart
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shooting people with a sniper is fucking hilarious on potato mode

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they have no idea

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such a great fucking game guys

steep radish
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“Should we add something interesting to the medic? NAH lets add the same class of weapon”

marble phoenix
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lmaoo that probably looks weird as hell

midnight nimbus
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it makes all textures the same color

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all greens are now the same green

dense bone
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wouldnt you still have glare with snipers?

idle rampart
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it looks weird but all you see is people running over fields and stuff

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its like sitting ducks

steep radish
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ebic

solid hinge
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I can't believe bfv is getting so many weapons

midnight nimbus
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I mean a lot aren't worth

dense bone
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i wish they focused on what we got and balanced them

steep radish
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ye

solid hinge
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Battlefront 2 hasn't had a single new gadget or weapon

idle rampart
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yeah like the VGO IS SO GOOD

solid hinge
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Since the game came out

midnight nimbus
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one of the MMGs is gonna be real interesting

steep radish
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Ye

idle rampart
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Battlefront was garbage

dense bone
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because... assault and support are far superior

marble phoenix
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im looking forward to all the fixes

midnight nimbus
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Assault is getting a shit Turner clone

idle rampart
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battlefront was the game my brother in law who never plays FPSes loved so much

steep radish
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BUT to be fair Battlefront has some devs come back from BFV

idle rampart
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watching him play it was so painful

solid hinge
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give me mmg information...

main grove
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What about any new bolt actions?

marble phoenix
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i hope they do something with wearing medals and more dog tags

idle rampart
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its literally the definition of watching npcs fight

midnight nimbus
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two new BAs

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but why play BAs

main grove
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Like Ross or 1917 Enfield

midnight nimbus
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both

green elm
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ross would be sick

solid hinge
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I've seen more npcs on bfv than bf2 honestly

midnight nimbus
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Ross in BFV Is shit

main grove
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How do you know I've asked this before

solid hinge
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Bolt actions are FUN

main grove
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Have you playtested it or something?

steep radish
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A bit

midnight nimbus
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😉🤔😉🤔

steep radish
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I play snipers with iron sights better

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rather a scope

main grove
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Ross and 1917 Enfield are God tier for me in BF1

solid hinge
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6x scope is good at any range

steep radish
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Ross is poopie

midnight nimbus
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only thing that interests me are two of the medic guns, new LMG, and one of the new MMGs

green elm
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iron sights are life

midnight nimbus
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all the bolts got butchered between BF1 and BFV

idle rampart
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the only thing that interests me is how EA is going to sell battlefield 6

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after all this

steep radish
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I mean I guess 6x is good

idle rampart
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there is no fucking way any reasonable person would preorder that shit now

steep radish
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But iron sights is more versatile

sonic rampart
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I think they are going to nail it

midnight nimbus
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BF6 should just take BFV as an example of exactly what not to do

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and it'll be a very good game

sonic rampart
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^

steep radish
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If BF6 us about vietnam

idle rampart
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I just joined a game where the opposing team has won six fucking times in a row with 200 ticket difference

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no autobalance

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no swapping

steep radish
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and they dont make another PR disaster

idle rampart
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like dudes

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come on

sonic rampart
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I hope they have learned their lesson

steep radish
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Ill buy it

idle rampart
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admit they fucked this game up

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so bad

sonic rampart
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nah

idle rampart
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they sold us dogshit

midnight nimbus
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no attrition pls

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stop letting artists design maps first

main grove
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They fucked it up but it's still fairly fun

solid hinge
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@idle rampart so angry

idle rampart
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and you guys who defend it at like NOM NOM

maiden steppe
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BF6 will prolly be the first battlefield game that I don't pre-order

sonic rampart
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There is still some hope

idle rampart
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THIS IS SO GOOD

wild cape
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What history period is BF6 planned to be set?

fallen rivet
maiden steppe
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kinda tired of DICE never learning from their mistakes

steep radish
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@wild cape im guessing vietnam

maiden steppe
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but I'm willing to see a game develop over the years to become something better

midnight nimbus
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idk, wouldn't doubt that another BF doesn't get made

idle rampart
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6 games in a row and even the winning team is like "uh what?"

wild cape
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They’re in the trees!

midnight nimbus
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they'll try to see how long they can milk the live service

idle rampart
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I watched an entire clan join one side

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and 300-0

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all yesterday

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fun game

steep radish
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THE TREES SPEAK VIETNAMESE

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God I hope they do vietnam next game

midnight nimbus
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new BF Vietnam would be gud

fallen rivet
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just leave and join another game thonk

midnight nimbus
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yeet on whitey with my AK47

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no mainline BF has done the AK right

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and it's just atrocious

steep radish
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Yeet on those fuckin PC’s with my M16

midnight nimbus
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the greatest firearm ever made

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and BF just doesn't do it

maiden steppe
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IIRC Bad Company 3 is in the pipeline according to AlmightyDaq's (now unlisted) video

wild cape
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They should set it in 2018 - UK government vs 2 drones at Gatwick

maiden steppe
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the same guy that leaked BF1 and BFV

steep radish
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“The greatest firearm ever made” Debating as fuck

midnight nimbus
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AK is the greatest firearm ever made

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cmv

steep radish
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HA

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Again debating

maiden steppe
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closest thing in aesthetics is prolly the RPK-74M in BF4

wild cape
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You’re forgetting the liberator is based on a real weapon, kht

steep radish
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AK is powerful but so is every other fire arm in the world

midnight nimbus
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BF4 RPK was gud

maiden steppe
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Lately I've been a fan of using the mag-fed LMGs for support

midnight nimbus
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AK is aesthetic af

steep radish
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5.56>7.62

maiden steppe
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I dislike the belt-feds after using them for 7,000+ kills

solid hinge
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7000

maiden steppe
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mag-feds I feel like I can actually do long bursts and not get punished

steep radish
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Ye

sonic rampart
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GuYs ThEy ArE gOiNg To AdD a ReDo Of MeTrO iN bF5

midnight nimbus
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obscene production quantities > virgin quantities

steep radish
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I loved metro

sonic rampart
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Which one

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Bf3 or 4

steep radish
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We must seize the means of production

midnight nimbus
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logistics win wars mang

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who cares about a 5% better gun

maiden steppe
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whose bright idea was it to give belt-fed LMGs in BF4 2.0 degrees of moving spread

steep radish
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If they dont make the grand operation charge for the Russians “uraa” I will swear like a sailor

sonic rampart
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Lol

midnight nimbus
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BF4 movespread ranged from big gay to crazy good

steep radish
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ye

midnight nimbus
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BFV movespread ranges from crazy good to basically nonexistent

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you can play it like CoD

wild cape
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I was kinda disappointed I couldn’t play as a commie in BFV

midnight nimbus
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BF3 was done right

maiden steppe
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yeah I liked BF3's moving spread values more

steep radish
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“ItLl CoMe LaTeR”

maiden steppe
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at least you could actually run n' gun with LMGs more often, even if you couldn't do precision range shots with 0.5 standing spread

steep radish
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“LiVe SeRvIcE”

midnight nimbus
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in BF3, you shoot at hipfire values unless you fully stop before ADSing

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made the game much more defensive

sonic rampart
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That wasnt something we were going to add in the base game I swear no

midnight nimbus
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BF3 was the peak

sonic rampart
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Trust me we have it all under control

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Btw which maps do you think they will add in the future?

steep radish
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Stalingrad

maiden lantern
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that one from 1942

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the U shape

steep radish
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Lmfao

sonic rampart
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They are prob gonna add a map of greece, it will look like hamada lmao

maiden lantern
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^ reskinned map

steep radish
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“That one from 1942” so fucking many maps

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Hell would be worth my 60 bucks

sonic rampart
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Hamada ft temples

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What a great idea

maiden steppe
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nowadays I can't bring myself to use anything other than the L86A2 or QBB-95 for Support in BF4

steep radish
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Hamada:The Temple Version

maiden steppe
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since they're the weapons that behave most closely to ARs

sonic rampart
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we’ll call it greece

steep radish
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@sonic rampart *Hamadeece

sonic rampart
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lmao you remembered me the ligma jokes

midnight nimbus
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@maiden steppe RPK does AR role best

sonic rampart
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Hamadeece

midnight nimbus
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hbar + ergo

sonic rampart
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Whats hamadeece

steep radish
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Greece And Hamada

sonic rampart
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Hamadeece *

steep radish
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but as one

maiden steppe
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i mean, hbar + ergo is a requirement for nearly every LMG due to bad base spread

serene patrol
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Playing some Armored Shield(BF3 AK) for the first time in like 7 years, oooh boy this is good

sonic rampart
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Ik lmao

steep radish
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How about add a fucking nuke in BFV

sonic rampart
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I meant it like the ligma joke

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they should add Japan

maiden steppe
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but I could go hbar + stubby or hbar + bipod on the mag-fed bullpups and still do well

steep radish
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Lmao I didnt see it as a ligma joke

sonic rampart
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And at the end of the match you will get nuked

steep radish
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In RS2 white phosphorus gets dropped on you

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Some crazy shit

midnight nimbus
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@maiden steppe ergo is meta grip pick for LMGs

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in BF4

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bc movespread is so terrible

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and RPK has good enough SIPS already

maiden steppe
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alright i'll submit to the meta just this once

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just for today

sonic rampart
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If they were lazy they couldve made the map of tira a multiplayer map lol

midnight nimbus
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hbar + ergo for all LMGs

maiden steppe
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but hbar + ergo on every LMG just tells me that there's not much freedom to customize them

midnight nimbus
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unless you wanna do hbar + bipod

sonic rampart
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With the castle

midnight nimbus
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BF4 is the illusion of freedom

maiden steppe
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compared to literally anything else

midnight nimbus
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most guns have one optimal loadout

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just one

sonic rampart
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In bf4 u bc have to grind

midnight nimbus
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some of the well rounded ARs have a few like 2-3

serene patrol
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and? idc if my gun is "optimal"

maiden steppe
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yeah I think 2-3 options is better than 1 option lol

midnight nimbus
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why do you not want to use the best gun possible?

serene patrol
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I play this game for fun

midnight nimbus
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doing well is fun

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like ACE 23 and SCAR-H have multiple options which is nice

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L85A2 is probably the best AR in the game

sonic rampart
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Agreed, ill just throw Grenades in operation locker as a support while dropping myself some ammo so I can inf throw grenades

solid hinge
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BF4 man those where the mothafuckin days

sonic rampart
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I mean who needs a gun

midnight nimbus
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bc it actually takes hbar well

steep radish
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why have a gun lol

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Just use your melee

solid hinge
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Charging in hot with the shield in operation locker

marble phoenix
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pulls out melee weapon

sonic rampart
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atleast u could see the names of the victims you knifed in bf4

midnight nimbus
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just use full choke UTS with buck for big locker cheese

maiden steppe
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hbar + stubby is great for doing long-bursts when standing still. hbar + ergo to ADAD everywhere, muzzle + angled for pure ease of use, comp + stubby on some guns with insane hrec

sonic rampart
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on the dogtags

midnight nimbus
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watch the AEK users cry when you one shot them from 20m

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muzzle angled gives you worse perf

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cucks your hitrate

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most ARs don't take hbar well

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too much FSRM, you basically throw away your second shot

sonic rampart
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watch me cry when I try out the Churchill tank lmao

midnight nimbus
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L85, SCAR-H and M16A4 are the highest DPS ARs that take hbar well

maiden steppe
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y'see, at least you HAVE differing attachment options between ARs

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and with LMGs, hbar + ergo only?

sonic rampart
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Lmao I miss the rush gamemode of bf4

midnight nimbus
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ACE 23 and M416 have too much FSRM for hbar

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hbar + ergo for all LMGs

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hbar + stubby for all PDWs

green elm
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famasFeelsMeowMan

sonic rampart
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Aug

maiden steppe
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i hope that the next modern battlefield can actually give you a convincing variety of options

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like what PUBG did before they fucked with grip balance

midnight nimbus
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comp + stubby for Bulldog, all ARs >750 RPM minus the M16A4

idle rampart
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ok

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so asking a serious question here

midnight nimbus
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BF1 has good variety of options

idle rampart
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how the fuck do you use the VGO or any of those "cant hipfire at all" lmgs without a full squad or camping

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whats the design theory on it

maiden steppe
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yeah I liked the variant system in BF1

sonic rampart
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You lay down

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And camp

midnight nimbus
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@idle rampart just camp lmaoooo

idle rampart
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dude

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this is fucking sad

sonic rampart
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Sucks

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Ikr

idle rampart
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so the entire premise to those guns is to play it like project reality

sonic rampart
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Thats why support class Camps

green elm
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just build lol

midnight nimbus
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the entire weapon type is designed for camping ye

idle rampart
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fuck these guys have no idea how to balance

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at all

maiden steppe
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Madsen LW for versatility, Madsen Trench for ADAD hipfire hilarity

midnight nimbus
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MG34 is the best MMG because it's the best for camping

idle rampart
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I mean I asked 3-4 of my friends how to use them

green elm
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you can always divebomb whenever u see someone

idle rampart
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they said they just simply don't use them

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I tried killing a guy who didnt see me with the VGO from ONE FUCKING FOOT

midnight nimbus
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best is MG34 on Narvik

sonic rampart
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I suck with them

idle rampart
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LANDED ONE SHOT

dense bone
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bipod or very close hipfire

idle rampart
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like dudes

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DUDES

sonic rampart
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Cause I dont want to camp

idle rampart
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stop

midnight nimbus
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camp in the town in the rubble and shoot at anything moving on the bridge

idle rampart
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its a shit game if you can take an lmg, stand behind an afk player 1 foot away

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and miss any shots

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thats just like, what the fuck

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not even full auto

dense bone
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doubt

fallen rivet
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yikes

idle rampart
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thats not even balance thats not realism thats just shitty mechanics layered on a 10 year old engine

midnight nimbus
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MMGs have good hipfire when you tighten it

dense bone
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sounds like youre just raging dude

sonic rampart
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^

idle rampart
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nah I'm just tired of the game having shitty weaponization

maiden steppe
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are you talking about LMG hipfire in this game or something

idle rampart
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assaults snipe

sonic rampart
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But its also kind of true

dense bone
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then stop playing

maiden steppe
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standing behind a player and missing a shot 1 foot away

midnight nimbus
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actually MG42 rapid fire is good for dolphin dive yeeting on people

fallen rivet
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probably having the most fun ive had on bf in a while on bf5

sonic rampart
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I hate assaults who snipe, cause you bc cant spot one if they are sniping on you

maiden steppe
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the MMG hipfire is quite good if you're using VGO spec'd for RPM, or MG42 spec'd for anything

midnight nimbus
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BF3/BF1 best class balance

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BFV class balance is retarded at best

dense bone
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fuck mg 42, most deaths to that gun by far

sonic rampart
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If a sniper is sniping you, you can atleast see them sniping on you

maiden steppe
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improve visibility and maybe you'll see less MG42's

idle rampart
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I'm actually really close to just moving on and playing another game until the battle royale comes out

maiden steppe
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less proning in the open and looking like a dead body

sonic rampart
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btw

dense bone
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@idle rampart do it

sonic rampart
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If they are adding combined arms

idle rampart
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I know the battle royale is going to be hot shit but I can't miss that trainwreck

sonic rampart
#

Wth will it be

midnight nimbus
#

just play with roblox graphics and cheese people

sonic rampart
#

Will it be as bad as the war stories

midnight nimbus
#

BFV is really really fun for trolling people

maiden steppe
#

I think BFV Firestorm has potential to have a good balance between the tactics of PUBG and the aggression of Blackout

midnight nimbus
#

not for playing seriously

sonic rampart
#

(Except for the last tiger and tira)

idle rampart
#

are you serious?

midnight nimbus
#

BFV firestorm is retarded

tranquil hearth
#

bf 4 was better for trolling

idle rampart
#

firestorm is going to be a failure

#

so hard

midnight nimbus
#

circle of fire

#

flags

dense bone
#

im just looking forward to fucking around in firestorm with friends like i did in pubg

midnight nimbus
#

64p

maiden steppe
#

if only because the Battlefield playerbase isn't generally interested in BR

midnight nimbus
#

tanks

sonic rampart
#

A ring of fire!

#

Teteteteteteeee

midnight nimbus
#

it's basically 4v60 conquest

sonic rampart
#

Teteteteteee

dense bone
#

anyone taking a br serious has gotta be boring

maiden steppe
#

64-player squad only BR is no different from most competitive formats for PUBG

idle rampart
#

no, because they have no idea how to make fluid gameplay

sonic rampart
#

Nobody knows that song?

idle rampart
#

and now you're expecting them to take a franchise they dont do

dense bone
#

bf not fluid?

idle rampart
#

and perfect it?

dense bone
#

thats a new one

maiden steppe
#

it actually works better because there's less variables in the way of you getting the win

idle rampart
#

BF is not fluid

#

if you think it is, lol

dense bone
#

franchise? perfect?

idle rampart
#

lol@u

midnight nimbus
#

BFV is far superior to BF4 for trolling

dense bone
#

you mean genre?

fallen rivet
#

bf not fluid

#

wat

idle rampart
#

bfv sure, you can troll all day in it

dense bone
#

br isnt a franchise

midnight nimbus
#

so many more ways to teamkill

dense bone
#

and no one said anything about perfecting it

idle rampart
#

I've seen people camp library at the cathedral map undetected the entire game

sonic rampart
#

Tell me hehe

dense bone
#

dude, youre delusional

idle rampart
#

because the art styling is shit

midnight nimbus
#

^

sonic rampart
#

^

idle rampart
#

I can even show you glitches

#

to hide under the map

#

on that map

midnight nimbus
#

the styling is atrocious

idle rampart
#

LOL

#

like stop

midnight nimbus
#

yes because the artists design the map first

sonic rampart
#

Especially supporters lol

dense bone
#

bfv has art style?

idle rampart
#

stop defending a broken, 50% off game

midnight nimbus
#

so you have tons of holes in the map

idle rampart
#

you're not impressing me

dense bone
#

likewise

#

you just sound like youre here reporting reddit posts

midnight nimbus
#

also the color grading is literally for movies, which makes visibility even worse

idle rampart
#

reddit posts like people turning off bushes with a slider and being able to kill people long-range?

#

yeah sure

midnight nimbus
#

devastation is 50 shades of gray: the map

idle rampart
#

I'll regurgitate those

sonic rampart
#

Atleast it looks good lol

dense bone
#

youve been regurgitating

#

still confused at bf having an art style...

idle rampart
#

and I will until they fix the game or admit they undersold a product

dense bone
#

and br being a franchise

idle rampart
#

as far as I'm concerned battlefield pulled a medal of honor here

solid hinge
#

oof

idle rampart
#

I'd be shocked if they invest the same amount of money in it

solid hinge
#

two headshots, two more headshots but they both counted as body shots and then a bayonet charge

#

krag is the best

dense bone
#

i swear headshot reg is off

#

i fucking swear it is

solid hinge
#

It is

#

It fucking is

wild cape
#

Is that BF1?

solid hinge
#

28/11 with recon

#

Satisfying

midnight nimbus
#

BF1 best BF just because SLR medic

dense bone
#

bf1 trash

wild cape
#

Just because a class is OP doesn’t make it a better game

dense bone
#

my least favorite easily

fallen rivet
#

^

midnight nimbus
#

RSC in BF1 >>>

dense bone
#

trash is extreme

#

but i just didnt like bf1

sonic rampart
#

Bf1s Operations were good tho

dense bone
#

too nade spammy and vehicle dominant

midnight nimbus
#

grand ops is kinda dumb compared to BF1 ops

sonic rampart
#

True

fallen rivet
#

probably heard more explosions than actual bulletfire

#

whenever i played bf1

midnight nimbus
#

BFV frontlines isn't as good either

sonic rampart
#

But look

wild cape
#

I didn’t like the menu and I didn’t like the gameplay

dense bone
#

maps were ehh

idle rampart
#

the only reason I didnt like BF1 was the random deviation and the behemoths

sonic rampart
#

Compare bf1 with operation locker or metro

idle rampart
#

behemoths were trash

midnight nimbus
#

> random deviation
lol

sonic rampart
#

And u will find out its just as nade spammy lol

midnight nimbus
#

watching too many brainlet YTers

dense bone
#

@sonic rampart what is?

radiant lily
#

Seems the majority have some kind of problem with the game in some way.😂😂😂😂

dense bone
#

cantplease everyone

sonic rampart
#

Operationlocker and metro

dense bone
#

and dont take the vocal as the majority

midnight nimbus
#

if BFV gave semis back to the medic it'd be a decent game

dense bone
#

lol what?

#

that would make medics fucking god mode

sonic rampart
#

^

dense bone
#

and doesnt make a game decent

#

wtf

craggy estuary
#

so they can hide and snipe and heal

sonic rampart
#

The recon would be sht

midnight nimbus
#

god mode medic made previous BFs fun

dense bone
#

doesnt make it a decent game

fallen rivet
#

medics with semi would be god tier for fragging

sonic rampart
#

But assaults were medics

wild cape
#

BF1 medics were the worst thing about BF1 IMO

dense bone
#

thats just what you want

fallen rivet
#

not balanced at all LOL

sonic rampart
#

xD

midnight nimbus
#

also semis wouldn't be god tier if they actually had spread increase... and hrec

dense bone
#

id LOVE to take my semi stats and throw them on self healing, but thats jus stupid

midnight nimbus
#

I like good balance, but I'd throw it out the window for fun

#

like BF3 AN94

dense bone
#

nah

midnight nimbus
#

gimme busted guns on medic any day

#

because at least you have a fun game

maiden steppe
#

I think rambo'ing with an SMG and infinite heal is fun already

sonic rampart
#

lol

dense bone
#

being broken is fun, but thats fucking dumb

midnight nimbus
#

where people can play and not feel handicapped

maiden steppe
#

just hipfire everyone

wild cape
#

But it’s pointless - may as well just remove every other class at that point

midnight nimbus
#

being broken is fun, why do you think people love MW2?

#

and BF3?

dense bone
#

i just said it is fun, but its stupid

little fjord
#

Bfbc2 g3

idle rampart
#

being broken, mw2

midnight nimbus
#

people love mad DPS

idle rampart
#

stop

maiden steppe
#

i mean, it isn't fun when it renders all other loadout/class options redundant

#

do DoTA 2 balance and make everyone "broken" in some way

idle rampart
#

did you just call mw2 broken?

#

compared to this game lol

#

stop

#

stop stop stop

midnight nimbus
#

broken weapon balance

#

BFV weapon balance is actually good, too bad weapon balance isn't that important

idle rampart
#

I'd rather have a cookie cutter gun balance than a abysmally poor, all-over-the-place "innovative" gun system

midnight nimbus
#

I mean, that's basically what I already said

idle rampart
#

the fact that you can snipe with the 1-4, have 2 piats, and C4

maiden steppe
#

there's never any complaints about PUBG balance because nearly every weapon can be OP in good hands

idle rampart
#

stop dude

#

the game isnt balanced

maiden steppe
#

nothing in the game makes you go "fuck that OP shit" because even a DMR user can fight competently against a Vector user

sonic rampart
#

Have 2 piats?

idle rampart
#

the only thing missing is like a two healthpack perk for assault

#

you can have two piat rounds

midnight nimbus
#

assault gets attritioned harder

idle rampart
#

if you're good, piat is oneshot kill

sonic rampart
#

Oh

idle rampart
#

you legit just peek and fire

sonic rampart
#

You can have 3

idle rampart
#

and boom dead

sonic rampart
#

xD

idle rampart
#

oh, nice

#

so even worse

#

I get it, the game is fun for casual

#

im happy for you guys

dense bone
#

pengoo whats your in game name?

idle rampart
#

for those of us who planned to play this dailyt

#

this game is hot shit and have fun because it isnt for me or any other relevant player

#

the twitch numbers scream this

fallen rivet
#

you

#

relevant player

idle rampart
#

like, witcher 3 has more people playing it at times

fallen rivet
dense bone
#

using twitch numbers to gauge anything but popularity..... OMEGALUL

idle rampart
#

I was relevant enough to test at EA HQ quite a few years ago

#

how relevant were you?

maiden steppe
#

i think twitch numbers are a valid metric for how fun a game is to watch

#

not necessarily to play

sonic rampart
#

^

fallen rivet
#

yikes

dense bone
#

@idle rampart whats in game name?

midnight nimbus
#

> claims to test at EA HQ
> believes in the RBD meme

#

big yikes

idle rampart
#

twitch numbers are actually

snow crater
#

can you fire the artillery in airborne

maiden steppe
#

like, I could find CS:GO fun to watch, but it bores me to actually play it

#

pro scene gameplay is an entirely different beast

sonic rampart
#

Same with gmod

dense bone
#

says game is casual, says he got picked to test, does that mean your mega casual?

little fjord
#

Rainbow 6

#

Seige

midnight nimbus
#

implying being picked to test even means that you have brain cells

#

look at DooM49

dense bone
#

^

little fjord
#

It means you're the best of the best

dense bone
#

while its cool you got picked or were allowed, what does that even mean?

maiden steppe
#

who's the guy that wanted to tap-fire an LMG in BF1

#

and complained that he couldn't

dense bone
#

could have been a friend of a friend

midnight nimbus
#

@maiden steppe DooM49

maiden steppe
#

LEL

#

right

dense bone
#

could have joined a random lottery selection to test

#

he could be super good and know his shit

#

but he wont even tell me his in game name

midnight nimbus
#

even "good" players don't know shit a lot of the time

little fjord
#

Cream of the crop

midnight nimbus
#

because FPS doesn't require any brain power to be good at

dense bone
#

at a certain level yes

midnight nimbus
#

like RTS and fighting, you need to thoroughly understand game mechanics

maiden steppe
#

i wouldn't do a stat lookup in this case. good and bad players have valid reasons for not finding a game fun

midnight nimbus
#

don't need that at all in FPS

fallen rivet
#

not necessarily true

dense bone
#

@maiden steppe im just wanting to gauge his perspective and get an understanding on how he got to test

#

has nothing to do with finding the game fun or not

midnight nimbus
#

you can get pretty far in FPS purely by being good at clicking

dense bone
#

@midnight nimbus lol, im gussing you havent played a fps competitively?

#

yes you can

fallen rivet
#

every game has 'game mechanics' regardless of its genre

dense bone
#

but that can only take you so far

maiden steppe
#

I don't think you can get far in Siege or CS:GO by clicking alone

sonic rampart
#

Who cares tho let him

maiden steppe
#

there's a lotta pre-cognition involved in tactical shooters

midnight nimbus
#

@dense bone that's literally my point

#

you can't go all the way, but you can get pretty far

maiden steppe
#

it's how you see people shoot others at twice the speed of human reaction

dense bone
#

well, thats not how you stated it at first

midnight nimbus
#

in smash, you get nowhere without understanding mechanics

wild cape
#

FPS

#

smash

midnight nimbus
#

FPS doesn't require brains

maiden steppe
#

shroud wasn't exactly doing well in CS:GO's pro scene despite his insane technical skill

#

in Cloud9, they replaced him with someone with bigger brains but worse technical skill

dense bone
#

theres way to many factors to claim anything like that

midnight nimbus
#

he still did well enough to make it to the pro scene

maiden steppe
#

cloud9 ended up performing better and winning one of their first majors in a while

midnight nimbus
#

which is my point entirely

dense bone
#

its not a simple skill or knowledge scenario

fallen rivet
#

how is having good aim not considered mechanical skill?

dense bone
#

theres match ups, team work, team charisma

midnight nimbus
#

anyways, FPS isn't exactly a big brain genre, and BF is extra retarded

dense bone
#

waaaay to much to just say shrould good mechanicl, replaced with good konwledge and they did better

midnight nimbus
#

like xfactor was a back up competitive tanker

#

and he's retarded

maiden steppe
#

it's likely that this new guy just worked better with a team than shroud did as well, sure

dense bone
#

did OTHER teams suffer and trade up or mishaps?

#

like i said, way to many variables

maiden steppe
#

there was nothing notable documented on that, no

#

it was basically a consensus that shroud wasn't fit for the pro team

midnight nimbus
#

tfw BF isn't even on the level for good FPS players to want play it

maiden steppe
#

he's better as a pubstomping streamer

dense bone
#

@midnight nimbus no one is even talking about bf at a competitive level

midnight nimbus
#

doesn't even have to be at a comp level

dense bone
#

thats literally only been a you rant

midnight nimbus
#

shroud isn't maintaining success playing comp all the time

#

good FPS players just don't wanna play BF, regardless of comp or not

fallen rivet
dense bone
#

what is your definition of good?

#

im typically top 5% of any fps scene, with comp or not (csgo i think i got to top10% but never took that serious)

#

id consider myself good at the least, and i wanna play bfv...

maiden steppe
#

good typically means top 1%

dense bone
#

wtf

midnight nimbus
#

<1%

dense bone
#

thats beyond good

#

top 1% is "good"

maiden steppe
#

it's a reasonable standard to shoot for if you want to stand out as a talented player

midnight nimbus
#

like I'd consider Skanic/MetalSlug to be a good cutoff for good BF players

wild cape
#

I have a friend who was 3rd in the UK at halo at one point - does he count as ‘good’?

maiden steppe
#

anyone can shoot for top 10% with good aim alone

midnight nimbus
#

probably top <0.1%

maiden steppe
#

top 1% or less would require good pre-cog as well

dense bone
#

i think you guys are overestimating this

maiden steppe
#

good gamesense, the ability to predict enemy movement at all times

midnight nimbus
#

yeah, I'd put Skanic as my definition of a good BF player

#

great aim, no game sense

dense bone
#

but he probably does have game sense

midnight nimbus
#

no

dense bone
#

otherwise he would get obliteratied

midnight nimbus
#

not really

#

just doesn't understand games

#

he's just good at clicking

dense bone
#

understands it enough

midnight nimbus
#

eh

dense bone
#

youre saying he has 0%

midnight nimbus
#

debatable

dense bone
#

when he HAS to have some

midnight nimbus
#

he has some, but not very much

#

he's just very good at clicking

#

he's a good example of why good at FPS doesn't mean understanding the game at all

dense bone
#

you deal with extremes

maiden steppe
#

If you were to play Siege then you'd still need to have an understanding of good Operator compositions and counters to perform well on a competitive level

#

there's way more than just clicking involved

dense bone
#

there always is

maiden steppe
#

it prolly involves more brains than aim at that point

midnight nimbus
#

being a top 1% BF player is really easy

idle rampart
#

lol I just had an enemy plane do a flyover while I had the VGO

#

a whopping 30 damage

dense bone
#

but just good aim will get you far, but not in a competitive level

idle rampart
#

the fuck they tryna fool here

maiden steppe
#

any run n' gun "tactical" fps like BF is relatively brainless

#

simple mechanics overall

#

it's just dumb fun to play

idle rampart
#

bf is brainless right now

#

unless you count incursions

midnight nimbus
#

simple mechanics doesn't make a game brainless

idle rampart
#

which was a hilarious failure

fallen rivet
#

if you're talking about 5v5 dom pro-level games, it requires more brain than you give credit for

solid hinge
#

The mechanics are simple but if you had a full 64 hardcore match with pro players that would be entertaining

fallen rivet
#

on top of needing good aim

solid hinge
#

5v5 Is boring

maiden steppe
#

so yeah, not entirely brainless, but still less complex than other competitive shooters

midnight nimbus
#

@solid hinge uhhhh you ever seen the attempts at 32v32 comp?

#

with good players?

#

it's extremely boring

#

because CQ is retarded

maiden steppe
#

I'd like to see someone get to at least LEM rank in CS:GO with good aim alone

midnight nimbus
#

grab half + 1 and sit there

brazen gazelle
#

Guys do you know why i suddenly have input lag?

solid hinge
#

It's perfect!

midnight nimbus
#

BF will never be great until CQ dies

solid hinge
#

False

maiden steppe
#

because purely reacting to different scenarios in that game is still an inefficient way to play. Still gotta do things like time your nades, get the nade physics right, and even properly time enemy movement so you can wall-bang people or shoot faster than human reaction time

midnight nimbus
#

CQ is already dying

#

it has been for a few games now

solid hinge
#

Close quarters?

maiden steppe
#

yeah Conquest is a shit mode

solid hinge
#

Oh

maiden steppe
#

Frontlines is the future

midnight nimbus
#

DICE just wants to slowly stab it to death instead of just murder it outright

#

frontlines is the future

solid hinge
#

Frontlines is good, it’s nice to mix it up

#

God not frontlines

marble phoenix
#

lmaooo conquest dying?

midnight nimbus
#

it's basically conquest but not retarded

brazen gazelle
#

Um, guys? Can somebody help me with my problem?

sonic rampart
#

Conquest is not dying

solid hinge
#

I haven't done a single frontlines match that hasn't been a fucking sweep

wild cape
#

Try turning it off and on again @brazen gazelle

#

And I mean that

brazen gazelle
#

@wild cape Doesn't work

midnight nimbus
#

BF games have been made to draw people away from CQ* for awhile now

maiden steppe
#

the game mode has poorly aged. it's either running laps around flags, or snowballing the other team to death

solid hinge
#

Every bf mode is snowballing the other team to death

maiden steppe
#

Frontlines at least allows you to finish matches quickly if you snowball

wild cape
#

Well you’ve tried everything then, good luck

solid hinge
#

Lol, me and my platoon always run a “circuit” of flags to take

maiden steppe
#

not just wait 15 minutes for the enemy team to bleed all of its tickets

midnight nimbus
#

frontlines makes rotations actually matter

sonic rampart
#

Hmm true

midnight nimbus
#

and removes all the boring shit that kills momentum

solid hinge
#

When does the new tides of war start?

sonic rampart
#

Never

stuck flame
#

u mom

wild cape
#

I wanna say 6th

sonic rampart
#

It ends on 6 jan

solid hinge
#

Every single frontlines match I've ever done bar one has been a sweep

wild cape
#

So 6th or 7th

ionic aurora
#

does anyone know this guy

wild cape
#

Or is it not instant?

ionic aurora
#

qun649789101

solid hinge
#

Once you're defending artillery there's no coming back from that

sonic rampart
#

frontlines sucks cause of shtty teamm8s who camo

solid hinge
#

Hopefully they give us a patch too soon

maiden steppe
#

could be due to poor map balance. BF1 Frontlines had back-to-back comebacks everywhere

sonic rampart
#

camp and dont attack

jovial cargo
#

I think I have played about 5 rounds of anything other than Breakthrough since launch

fallen rivet
#

i can see the potential in frontlines but you will usually have one-sided games in pubs

ionic aurora
#

top spm cheater and still no banned

idle rampart
#

I just typed CP into ingame chat and its blocked

#

are you fucking real?

fallen rivet
#

once you lose the initial objective

cobalt spoke
#

Conquest is the game mode that BF is known for CQ won’t die. And if CQ dies... BF will die with it. Many other games do the other game modes better but CQ is very much a unique BF experience.

midnight nimbus
#

BF1 FL was just 👌👌👌

idle rampart
#

dead game is also blocked

#

curious why thats blocked

midnight nimbus
#

second best BF gamemode ever

solid hinge
#

Every single time we get down to the artillery, they either get sweeped or die when they inevitably fail to take back the point

midnight nimbus
#

Rush was a unique BF experience, and they basically killed that

maiden steppe
#

Conquest may be its most popular mode, but it's also the most degenerate on every level

midnight nimbus
#

let the past die

wild cape
#

Ooh I met an odd cheater yesterday, he had an Enfield firing at the rate of an LMG - not sure what was going on there

fallen rivet
#

retaking the center point after losing it once in FL is pretty much impossible to do for your standard pub games

maiden steppe
#

yeah, that's definitely poor map balance

jovial cargo
#

Breakthrough reminds me a lot of Rush from earlier games, in a good way. Also BF1 Operations of course

midnight nimbus
#

FL actually rewards teamplay

maiden steppe
#

never had that experience in BF1 frontlines

midnight nimbus
#

because coordinating actually reliably swings the game

fallen rivet
#

yeah, that's why i was saying i can see the potential in it

#

when you have two good teams

#

but you just dont get that in pubs

solid hinge
#

I did a frontlines earlier and we got pushed back to artillery

#

Only one was left by the time it was over

midnight nimbus
#

having a good squad = insta win

solid hinge
#

Then we had to push back up to a point where the entire enemy team is already camping on it

midnight nimbus
#

good squad on each team = sweaty fun

#

frontlines needs good comeback mechanics

#

but that's about it

solid hinge
#

I did a big flank and popped a spawn beacon and got a couple of kills before dying

#

Checked the respawn map

#

Only 7 of my team had actually pushed

#

The entire rest of my team was waiting at the artillery point

fallen rivet
#

having a good squad on FL is an insta win because you take the first point

solid hinge
#

Over three quarters of my team didn't even try to turn it around

fallen rivet
#

good squad on each team is yeah, sweaty fun for the first point

#

once you lose it, due to map balance and having your average pub team, really hard to take back the center point after defending artillery

little fjord
#

Frontlines seems you kinda need people already at the next objective before you finish capping the obj before it

#

Fast paced

midnight nimbus
#

BFV FL is just butchered

#

idk why

#

yeah frontlines is good if people on your team understand how to play

#

rotating flags effectively

little fjord
#

I like it

umbral viper
#

hello there

wild cape
#

General kenobi!

little fjord
#

But yeah... If teams are unbalanced you get trounced

fallen rivet
#

i couldnt play bf1 long because of how spammy the explosives were

#

so dont really have a reference point to compare BFV FL with

umbral viper
#

a surprise to be sure but a welcomed one

midnight nimbus
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I wish BF1 got Ammo 2.0

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it would've fixed like 80% of the problems with the game

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but reddit screamed too hard

fallen rivet
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didnt really like the guns much either, personally

midnight nimbus
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Burton >>>

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so many fun unique guns

lavish torrent
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Are there no rifles for assault or medic?!?

midnight nimbus
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RSC SMG 😩😩😩

lavish torrent
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All I see are assault rifles

jovial forge
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gross

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RSC smg was disgusting

lavish torrent
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Don’t tell me there are no carbines or rifles

midnight nimbus
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RSC SMG is such a big brain gun

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same with 1895 Trench

jovial forge
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its only good feature was that strong damage

midnight nimbus
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and good accuracy?

maiden lantern
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oh crap i just realised

jovial forge
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if you can hit something that is

midnight nimbus
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you can literally 40-50m people if you're good

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just burst it

maiden lantern
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assignments track in campaign

midnight nimbus
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and use Factory

lavish torrent
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Aight thanks for taking a min to answer a quick question

midnight nimbus
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it's really accurate, just has gay vrec

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and a ton of shake

solid hinge
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@lavish torrent none

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assault rifles and semi auto for assault

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Smg for medic

lavish torrent
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Holy shit

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They ruined it

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I was actually excited for this game.

fallen rivet
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lavish torrent
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Fucking rip ea u cunts

fallen rivet
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to each their own

solid hinge
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It's been out for quite a while

lavish torrent
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Do any class has rifles/carbines?

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Aside from the sniper

fading gyro
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Assault does

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I felt like you do about medic, but it makes sense after playing it for a while. Medics with range would be way more difficult to kill than any other class, I think.

lavish torrent
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Assault on has ar’s tho

midnight nimbus
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medics need midrange guns

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AR assault, SAR medic pls

fading gyro
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Go watch a few videos on the assault class—you’ll get a sense of what assault has, may be to your liking

lavish torrent
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Regardless, ww2 was filled with rifles- the game feels like cod- you get killed in seconds

fallen rivet
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semi's on medic would be disgusting

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dont think that should be a thing

midnight nimbus
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semis on medic, buff everything else

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beta StG

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launch KE7

fading gyro
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If they give medic midrange, they’re going to have to change the self-heal then

midnight nimbus
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power creep the whole game

fallen rivet
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it would be way too easy to frag as a medic with an m1a1 or g1-5

midnight nimbus
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just add auto regen back in

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way easier to balance self heal with auto regen

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since you just play with rates and timers

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midrange medic is best medic

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because you can actually clear areas before going in for revives

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can't do that with an SMG

fallen rivet
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just dont go for dumb revives

midnight nimbus
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it also makes zero sense to make medic closer range than everyone else

fallen rivet
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and run full smokes

midnight nimbus
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midrange guns = you can make good revives

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like lmaoooo let's design a game where the healers are in front of everyone and die first

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instead of supporting and keeping pushes alive

fallen rivet
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guaranteed if you give current medics semi's

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there would be less reviving

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and more sitting and shooting

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except for decent+ players

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ofc

midnight nimbus
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plenty of reviving in BF1

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and just make reviving less tedious

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people don't wanna revive when it locks you into a long animation

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BF1 revive was fine

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if you wanna stop medic train, add a longer cooldown

fallen rivet
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but yeah, they would need to make some pretty big changes to medic if they were to implement semi's without making the class too nutty

midnight nimbus
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BF1 medic revive + BFV squad revive would be fine

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nah, don't even need huge changes

fallen rivet
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assuming you meant removing medic self heal with auto regen

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that's a pretty big change

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from the current state of the game

midnight nimbus
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nah, don't need to remove medic self heal either

sleek tartan
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BF1 revives were really cool imho I always revived so much and people even greeted me on chat

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missed them a lot

midnight nimbus
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medic is best as a midrange class

sleek tartan
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I just can't do it anymore, there's always this one guy that comes around, or throws explosives to the smoke

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but I do think that medic's weapons in BFV are shit

midnight nimbus
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lol yeah, now in BFV you now know that smoke = pls spam explosives here

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easy one or two kills

sleek tartan
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yeah, everytime a medic apologist goes like "just use smoke bruh"

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same ptsd picture comes into me

fallen rivet
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smoking on yourself is asking to get spammed with explosives

sleek tartan
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with 5 nades, 2 piats and 4 dynamites exploding around me

fallen rivet
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you smoke closer to them than to you

quasi depot
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You mean you pop your smoke on top on thr person youre trying to revive... Why?

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you shoot between you and the enemy

sleek tartan
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@fallen rivet then they just move inside or on the edge of the smoke and kill you genius

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not like you don't need a nice 3 seconds to revive

fallen rivet
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if you're in a position like that

sleek tartan
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more if you are not medic

midnight nimbus
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easy kills: frag someone, camp their body, wait for a medic to smoke the body, then shoot it

fallen rivet
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then that's a dumb revive

sleek tartan
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and that leads me to miss bf1 revives, in whcih I could easily both revive and later cover the guy

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see where this leads?

midnight nimbus
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if medic has midrange guns, it can create scenarios that aren't dumb revives

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instead of only going for ideal revives, you can create ideal scenarios yourself

sleek tartan
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now I can not kill the enemy neither revive them properly in many situations

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and what is worse

midnight nimbus
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just don't revive in BFV

sleek tartan
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anyone telling me here that THEY can totally perfectly fine judge when its safe and when its not

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is full of bullshit

midnight nimbus
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it's just not enjoyable and detracts from whatever fun the game offers

quasi depot
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MP40 is fairly decent at mid range... Same with the Sten... I would prefer a shotty or some mid-long range weapons

sleek tartan
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how can a gun that needs 9 bullets to kill past 30m be "decent" at range?

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are we crazy

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or whut

fallen rivet
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im just saying that if i were able to use an m1a1 on medic, id probably be dropping a 5.0kd every game

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it would be way too easy

quasi depot
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Git gud maybe?

sleek tartan
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kd of 8.80 bro

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get on my level to talk to me like that

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or just dont do it

midnight nimbus
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lol

fallen rivet
sonic rampart
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kd of 0.29 get on my lvl bro

midnight nimbus
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rather gitgud with a class that's fun

sonic rampart
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jk its prob 1

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Idk

sleek tartan
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what is even more telling, with all clases my kd is around my average

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but my kd with medic is 6

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a difference of 2 kills per life

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that's how much worse it is

midnight nimbus
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imagine playing BFV to revive NPCs instead of cheesing people

fallen rivet
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link profile pls, im curious now

sleek tartan
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justHormigaZ

solid hinge
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medic heals make them strong

fallen rivet
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8kd 1.8kpm

midnight nimbus
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@sleek tartan you leave PENTA?