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it does affects the guns ttk
just YOUR ttk
which is why im saying, stats that matter, ttk and if you can use that ttk effectively
no it doesnt
Oh hey, Sten reloads faster too
its the full potential of the gun
just because you cant handle it doesnt mean the gun is bad
hrec and spread and much more heavily used in balance
hrec and spread are used to balance guns regardless of your ability to handle a gun
Just bought bfv yesterday and got the gold k7 today, am I right in thinking this is the best automatic wep in the game?
Cos it shoots like a lazer
they're used assuming the user is an aimbot
@solid hinge its definitely top tier gun, even after its nerf
Yeah its insane
it's part of the reason why Symthic has no BFV stats up yet
because raw TTK numbers alone are meaningless
no they are not
in effect they are
no
in an actual game
they arent
where you don't have spread and recoil hacks
faster ttk is better, if you can control it its better
K went over the whole thing, Sten has less v/h recoil, 34 has slightly lower RoF
you can't say that the FG42 actually has a better TTK at 100m than the Bren
if you cant control it, learn, or move on
you can't control hrec
I remain unconvinced that it's noticeably more accurate when autofired
you can manage spread to an extent
@spiral badge max out the MP34 to the right and come back
you can control how important it is that the hrec is
I'm not wasting CC on a clone
Or tap fire when d oing so
use its strong point for its better ttk
exactly, there's more to TTK than damage and RoFs
You told me to look at numbers, not bars
I did
And they don't convince me
Why would I throw away CC
raw TTK is meaningless
no its not
because it doesn't consider hrec and spread
Life is meaningless
doesnt mean its meaningless
There's an extensive sheet somewhere showing TTK
raw TTK says that the FG42 kills in 26 frames at 100m, and the Bren does it in 35
Also, what do you consider "long range" when autofiring your MP34
IRL the FG42 almost never kills faster at 100m
if it does, it's sheer luck, statistically
@spiral badge 70-80m+
are all medic weps trash compared to the support / assault ones?
where max spread is sufficient
And you are claiming that you reliably hit targets like that
What is your favourite gun?
if you control the recoil pattern, yes
And are telling me to autofire and not tap
@solid hinge close range medic weapon like suomi and thompson are good close, but are beat by shotguns, challenged by other guns, ranged smgs are beat by just about everything
or if you can actually see shit in this game
What would be the best game mode to play if you wanted to take the game to the next level in competition?
100% bullshit
wasting DPS by tapping
No
that seems contradicting @midnight nimbus ... you say tap fire is dumb, but if you cant control a gun at range its not good
How many rounds would you say hit?
it's what DICE wanted to do in BF1, but accomplished it in BFV with an opposite approach
With your full auto MP34
Whats the assignment?
Because I can tapfire the unmodded MP34 and land almost every round on a target 100m away
And there is no fucking way you're doing anything close to that with auto
Tap fire is alot more accurate in any shooter game. If you're within 20m of someone and can shoot in that area, full auto is great for spraying and killing
you get about 80% overall hitrate at that range with MP34
Csgo is the same way, or any other game with recoil
Suuure you do
Lmaooo
lol with the k7, im auto firing even at long range, seems far more efficient
Except CS:GO has a retarded recoil system
you realise spread/recoil is all calculable, right? hitrate is just trig
Excuse me for disliking a completely unrealistic recoil pattern system
CSGO's recoil is far more realistic, dont think retarded is the word
CS:GO's recoil is realistic
CSGO's recoil is amazing for players
Bruh what
mouse patterns
because the spray pattern makes sense, i fired an ak irl, holy shit my body wasnt ready
lol
It's competitive
its not tho
It's not realistic
recoil is random
Lmao
It's pre-made patterns
repetitive movements are competitive? right
Go play real life shooter
recoil is random to an extent, but follows a general pattern
What
Oh does bfv not have premade patterns? I feel wit hthe k7 when i drag down on my mouse it shoots straight
Why are yall telling me to play arma lol
the recoil pattern only seems to go vertical
BFV has patterns, just not strong ones
when you talk about kd and competitive in the same sentence...
Iยจ'm just saying CS:GO has clearly pre-drawn patterns that aren't logical at all, you can learn and counter them but they're not realistic
drawing shapes with my mouse is competitive ๐ค
When you talk
BFV has recoil systems
On the point and 16 reinforcements left and we lose suddenly
Why does the AK go up and then suddenly stop and go all horizontal?
drawing shapes with the mouse doesnt add anything to the game
wtf is this
I mean, I did say I personally dislike it
csgo patterns make no sense...
who cares if they make no sense
Yeah, realistic games are the biggest snore fest for me xD thats why I could only play like a minute of arma before I thought wtf
Not state that all unrealistic games are garbage
it's a game
im just saying it to counter things said here
csgo patterns make no sense...
how so?
tmw a gamer says something doesn't make sense
BF community is filled with both refractor/milsim boomers and retards who are too bad to play other types of FPS and thrive on 1kpm conquest
fact
i used a smoke grenade to cover my advance into an attic where a sniper was camping
I'm sorry but an assault rifle doesn't have a T-shaped recoil pattern
because guns dont have a predetermined pattern that they consistently shoot at and top out after a certain point predictably going left and right
I'm just shit posting
sprayed suomi where the dark outline was
no hitmarkers
he sprinted towards me so i meleed
Mm to an extent, bfv still has a skill gap though
and his melee animation activated
I didn't say that but okay
regular knife while i was max hp and he was coming from the front
delete milsim from the earth
They targeted gamers
back to kd and competitive, kd means shit, its all about winning
TH is game sucks ass
KD is gud
kd is a joke
Why TF are you on a BFV Discord and calling me a BF fanboy anyway ๐
why do you wanna not kill people in a shooter
you can pad it so many ways
Are you trying to say muslim? @midnight nimbus
no, milsim
TIL I can't enjoy both Battlefield and Arma at the same time
military simulation
Tony Hawk games suck ass? @solid hinge
arma
milsim booming is wanting BF to be more like arma
i have a kpm much higher than most, my kd is good, my kd could be higher if i played like a bitch
@solid hinge who are you talking to?
yeah 'ptfo' is a really toxic mentality
HAHAHAH
Oh no for sure, if people want that they should play insurgency
its like 2 shot kill
imagine thinking some 0.5kpm retard running into the flag over and over is more useful than someone acrtually killing guys lol
you have roughly a 3% chance of being better than me
honestly
i wish 'PTFO' never took off
i wish bf players cared about being good at the game
im not even good
What's wrong with PTFO?
i just play the obj and im not an idiot
BF PTFO mentality is brain squeezed
the general bf community is fodder
Battlefield doesn't have PTFO
you have brain worms if you think brainlessly running onto a flag and dying is more useful than actually killing people
@stone plaza maybe u think like that
reeeeeeeeee lemme run at flags
^
Fodder for my Tommy
I didn't realize saying "PTFO" means "run into the flag headfirst and die"
^^^
@stone plaza yes it is
it does for 99% of 0.5kd PTFO players
Does it though? ๐ค
@stone plaza bf is all about objective
I feel like you're making it that way
you have to kill people to succeed at taking the objective
BF is all about killing people, like every FPS
its all about win%, then spm
objectives are a means to kill more people
dont be squeezed
if youre worried about anything else youre a scrub
@dense bone top class assault

@stone plaza yeah but dont just kill
stop @ ing me or you'll be the next person on the #MeToo hit list
@solid hinge your stats?
> won't play support bc OP
> assault exists
๐๐๐
My user name is xMac McMillanx on Xbox if you wanna check, but I don't really boast anything
yeah loeschdich is qualified
to talk about how much the dumb ptfo shit means
(it really doesnt at all)
just kill people
killing people is useful
IF those stats are yours, you are insanely good, but i doubt it
more dead enemies = less enemies on the flag
Lol support considered op? Ive noticed assault weps are pretty heavy at close range
the point of the game is to win
Killing people is useful, but that kind of depends
@stone plaza enemies respawn
boosting your kd is part of it
@stone plaza not really
a 4.6KD isn't anything special with a 600spm
stop @ ing me
the point of BFV is to troll teammates and yeet on people with the Turner
you attention seeking creature
means he doesn't play the objective
IF those stats are yours, you are insanely good, but i doubt it
it's his, loeschdich is pretty good at bf
what modes do you play loesch
scores mean nothing when a good player can play conquest and go 0.5kpm at random bc the mode is abject garbage
yeet to yeeted ratio matters most
if you arent winning it doesnt matter what you do
Statistics mean nothing
Win% doesn't matter because you can't carry your entire fucking team
play real modes like frontlines and dom with predictable map flow
My kd is 2.32, but w/l is 33% xD, (I have really bad teams I promise!)
@stone plaza do you fucking understand the game you take the objectives to lower the enemies tickets the team with 0 tickets loses
you can on frontlines @spiral badge
Game

SPM is probably the most important
conquest is garbage bc it doesnt punish shitters and doesnt reward good players
Since you can't get a good SPM without playing the objective
i find it ironic people say win% doesnt mean anything, but i play to win and have good % for a solo player
good SPM doesn't mean you're good
just coincidence
Win% really doesn't mean shit since you can't carry 31 players
any tard can zerg to flags
@stone plaza why the fuck did you buy the game bf is all about concquest
hard to carry a team of 63 as solo though
@solid hinge i didnt buy the game
I've got an ok kd but I don't give a fuck about stats
@solid hinge why ss instead of link?
team of 32*
and no, bf isnt about conquest
BF has good game modes that are not conquest too
Yeah, it's not like Conquest isn't the most iconic game mode
@stone plaza than why are you talking about it
its not
Fuck me for enjoying it I guess
because i own the game
i can't get into frontlines
i didnt buy it
Man I loved battlefield bad company they had the 8 player mode, 2 squads... ๐ฆ really want that on bfv
I'd say rush is more iconic than conquest to a veteran player
i play conquest and domination
If I die, who the fuck cares? The medic 1m away?
brain squeezer
@stone plaza i like your discord picture
I enjoy GO to an extent
Conquest is less sweaty and clusterfuck
conquest is brain wormed
conquest is brain wormed
Ok
rush was pretty fun in bf1, it only sucked in bf4 imo
That's just like
conquest without recons would be nice ๐
I'll show you sweat
Your opinion man
free to be as 0.5 KPM shitty as you want
@spiral badge i actully like when its a complete cluster fuck
flag runner = the mode
I like it when the entire server is at one objective
if you care about winning and you play CQ why are you killing
just redeploy and play backcap nanny
so fun
still sus but cant disprove these arent your stats, if they are, you are a very good player, but that doesnt mean my stats are bad by any means. with those stats you should be top 1% or better @solid hinge
such a good mode
i dont care about kd if i play the objective enough
No one's forcing you to backcap
Just snipe at home base
You choose to be a retard
if you care about winning, you basically aren't playing an FPS anymore with CQ
that doesnt sound too bad
By the way, I love it when there's an mmg guy on that train awning on devastation,
cheeky picnic

conquest is a lil chingy mode for people who like the experience of being shot from 15 directions at once, and flag running
You can have fun and have decent stats
Oh really, thats a little fucked
woooooo losing because your team doesn't have a backcap nanny and being one yourself is awful, such a fun game mode
camping is shit if you are not defending
But think of it this way, when u finally do it youll feel good that u wont have to go through that shit again xd
until the next sniper
xD
I'm sorry you're having a shit experience with Conquest, I'm not 
The only thing that matters is a 7 kd and only level 20 recon
Yeah, i hit my toe nail on my door yesterday, trust me i know that feeling
Try a little harder
there might be a correlation between being bad at the game
and liking bad modes
who knows
You didn't hurt my feelings yet
conquest on good maps is tolerable
Trying so hard to bait my man
i dont care if you like a high kd if you play the first objective
Lol conquest feels like im facing bots honestly
I mean CQ is a shitter farm
Devastation conquest
the reaction times etc are so slow, i rarely come across good players
whats ptfo?
repeat
just ptfo mang xde
play the fucking objective
Play the fucking objective
Jesus christ ๐ never seen so much salt
Loots of them
who has a .2 kd?
Ah im down with that, but i just want my teammates to get kills xd, that makes the objective capturing part a lot easier ... not to mention possible
Gtg back to work, baiiii
Shame it's a fighting game in disguise
I don't, does that make me a shit tier human as well
There it is 
@solid hinge you dont play anything other than conquest?
I COULD tell you that I just find them entirely uninteresting
maybe its cus you're bad toxxy
because these stats you linked dont have much conquest play compared to other modes
Well they go hand-in-hand...no ones gonna enjoy a game they are bad in
That's true to some degree
i know its bugged
I'd rather not learn a game I have no interest in to begin with
but theres a shit ton of frontline and tdm on here
Thus I'd be bad at it because I didn't learn it
well, you tried them
so maybe you just realised you were bad and gave up
makes sense
theres way more than 2 games of frontline and tdm
tdm AND frontline
"lol ure bad" gets old after a while
youre disregarding half of what im saying
i played my first tdm game this morning, and it was filled with shotguns, put me off :(....the ttk on shotguns are too fast lol, cannot contest buildings at all
Frontlines and breakthrough are great... I like breakthrough but frontlines has a bit closer average range of engagement
oof my k/d is only 1.97 and 594 spm
i think na has better competition compared to EU...ive seen enough stodeh videos to realize how stupid his opponents are
why no stats for bf1?
hey. the new "story unclock time-limited progress thing whatever it is called" has started to countdown but it's still locked
anyone else have that?
why have 2 accounts?
what is the point of having multiple accounts?
i dont see why that would ever be a concern
why does it matter if you suck at a game and its linked?
idk, just all seems sus
like i said, if those are your stats solo, youre freakin good, like scary good
2 players
almost 90% win rate solo?
Or maybe more in BFV, I'm not sure
but what do you do in it
is it like survival in STBF1
SW
or something
where you have to survive against waves of ai enemy?
i understand the purpose of achivements and gold guns. give you a feeling of progress. some more incentive to play the game
don't understand the linking thing though
I mean there could be a survival mode but I imagine it'll be linear co-op missions
I just figured you've played video games
im guessing the new season will start on Jan 6th
i don't think i have every seen "cross-game stats" anywere. does that even exist?
like a "k/d across all bf games"?
Why would they do that
bf4 is still my favorite game to date
in addition to rdr2 and gta v
i didnt play bf3
I want the non-darkened version of this pic, 
but i played bfp4f
hold a piece of blue tint over your eyes...congrats you now experienced bf3
this one is nice
which was awesome
i can not comprehend carrying a game enough to get over 4 kdr and nearly a 90% win percentage solo
thats just insane
im at work
well you have to abuse the most broken weapons for one 
I looked at BO4 and I saw zero recoil and 1 day TTK
Modern shooters are boring imo
@spiral badge that does sound more competitive...
what
No, it sound slike garbage wtf
Why would you want to shoot at the same person for so damn long
no recoil gets rid of RNG, high ttk requires better aim
places more emphasis on headshots
dude plays cod infinite quantum break warfare
which is better aim as well
is that wht you enjoy shooting at a guy in the middle of his flight
modern shooters are the best
ww2 meh
but bfv is rly good
in addition to bf1 of course
Modern shooters are entirely uninteresting
What
I expressed dislike at CS:GO, fighting games and modern shooters
I don't think that encompasses everything
probably likes fortnite
that means he likes ninja to o.o
Oh yeah, logical step
yup most definitly
Doesn't like these things, must like Fortnite
Do you like xmas? @spiral badge
Yes, but that's not a game
ITS A XMAS MIRACLE!
how much vbucks did you get for xmas @spiral badge
its an xmas miracle xd
Fua i usually speak to foreigners in discord chat so dont bother with grammar
need to step up my game here I see
toxxy still writing the huge amount of vbux he got for xmas
I was GOING to say that the modern shooter I played most recently (and enjoyed) was Arma 3 BUT without all the hyper mega realistic settings turned on, because there are interesting missions/scenarios that are fun in co-op
Feel free to make an entirely unreasonable reply to that though
yea im kidding is the forbidden
I was just messing around, you took it a bit too literally xd
I wouldn't say that
people get offended by the little things nowadays 
Is that a challenge
but the thicccc ones are nice
UM DID YOU BREATH NEXT TO ME
I actually know someone like that, but she had mental illness
Nah, people don't get offended by anything as sensible as that
sounds like a feminist
Girls girls girls....please, this is all so meaningless
and here is an attention whore
I'm not too triggered by feminists...its the skinny male who white knights her sensitive attitude that triggers me
you can call them Eugene
lol
It'd be great if you could pick the level of challenge and get something out of it instead of just fighting endlessly scaling zombies that are eventually super bullet spongy and unfun, even impossible to kill
Unless that's a thing in the newer ones, I only ever played WaW
you do realize there are easter eggs in each map
Lmao, I dont really like the mg42 or any mmg for that matter, its such an inconvenience not having the freedom to aim without the bipod out
Oh yeah, easter eggs
but its a monster for sure
That'll redeem the shit gameplay
there is still unsolved easter eggs from bo2
I wouldn't know, it's on console
tbh I agree with toxxy on zombies on bo4, its really stale lol
Yeah, I don't like to spend money on an inferior platform for the sake of a few exclusives 
good for u
god aerodrome is fucking cancerous
I thought that initially, but last of us was the best game ive ever played...Im buying the ps4 purely for the sequel lol
Seems like a very expensive game
more toxic for sure
were you brits
i came second top of my team as fuckin recon
Yeah you can't spawncamp germans
They get the high ground
Yeah, it turns out if you play agressively as recon and spot people instead of camping in a bush and being useless, you get decent scores
even if you camp in a bush and spot people you're useful
This is true
I spent half the game spotting people from F
spawn beacon is invaluable in pushing F from B
Course you'll get less score that way than playing the objective but that doesn't really matter if you're spotting for your team all the time
Score =/= usefulness
yeah i noticed bfv doesnt have a spot button ๐ฆ
dat shit was so useful
my team managed to lose a b and c but my squad pushing from fucking F which i took by myself at the start went and got e and d
and the rest of my team can't do shit
I mean, it still has a spot button
and then finally we lose F because 3 tanks push us
and we get spawn camped for the rest of the game
Yeah on tanks it works but not infantry right?
Are you serious right now
it works on anything but only for your squad
why are the Churchills so shit
Ohh really, i noticed it does it automatically if i aim at them, in bf1 was more manual
er
what?
They removed 3D spotting for everyone except Recon (using the spotting scope or flare) and Support's machine gunner combat role when you supress people
You can still tag enemies for your squad but it's not a 3D spot, it'll just stay where you put it, essentially a "last seen" marker
Yeah thats it
R1 on ps4 manually spots places or enemies for your team with a shield
In other bf games it literally pinpointed their position at all times
Recon also auto-spots people when shooting them
was really nice
Oh actually that's probably not a shield it'll be an arrow or something
That's why they removed it
Yeah recon does that now
So you wouldn't see people's location all the damn time
finally got the piat
bye bye panzerfaust
piat and frag rifle are the only explosive things in this entire game
germany has the advantage with every vehicle at the moment
I use AT grenades, PIAT and dynamite on Assault
I only use rifle grenade for debris dmg and creating shooting holes ๐
realy useful tho
It's way better than in the beta from what i've seen
I'll take at grenade, faust and dynamite if im tank hunting
Rifle grenades kill from ridiculous range
I haven't actually tried it AFTER the beta so I couldn't say, but it SEEMS better
They're like a literal frag now
in terms of dmg I think its bad, but for other purposes like dmging buildings I think its nice
the skull-icon. is that a headshot or a kill=?
kill
skull with a crack on the head should be a headshot right?
Some dude killed me shooting out of a window by hitting another boarded window with a frag nade
No, all skulls have the crack I think
i have white skulls, green and red skulle
frag rifle
lol thatโs insane ayla
Yeah I was maxed hp
It was fucked
Yeah I think u can
Shouldn't have even hurt me let alone kill me
Really? I swear the pilot didnt have any head cover
i think skull is just headshot...
in bf1
i have white for hit, red for headshot and green for kill in the settings
white skull is a normal kill, orange (by default) is headshot
is it different for the crosshair and the skull?
Hitmarker has 3 colors, white for normal hit, orange for headshot, red for kill, skulls are white for normal kills and orange for headshot kills
You can change the colors though
why aren't there loadouts
Because the UI was designed by someone that has never played video games or something
So you would think, anyway
ive lost chances to do things multiple times because I've had to swap a bunch of things before i spawn
It gets worse ever game somehow
I shouldn't be taking like 7 seconds to swap things
@spiral badge oh... so the hitmarkers has three colors but the skulls only have two?
Yes, because both skull colors are kills, just different ones
skull is just kill (white) or kill with headshot (green)
u can defo headshot pilots in bf1 @solid hinge
Hitmarkers are 2 colors, headshot and body shot
Hitmarkers are hit, headshot hit, or fatal hit
@solid hinge and hit that killes
Fatal hit? Ive only seen white / orange, unless fatal hit and headshot are defaulted to orange?
Nope, fatal hit is red by default
oh wow, never really noticed that lmao
It'll only be the last one obviously when shooting at someone so that's probably easy to miss
i shot someone now and got red hitmarker, green hitmarker and red skull
so i hit him twice in the head
second shot killed him
i have set kill to green
Correct
how comes "assist count as kills" dont count towards objectives? ๐ฆ
o.o
i thought they did
Nope
buff recon
Nerf medic @dense bone
Delete medic
give recon AWP, one shot kills, problem solved?
Man I am sad, the artbook is not what I had hoped for :(
delete support*****
@solid hinge hell no
dont do that
lmao
ew
give assault ak47 lmao
i dont want to get quickscoped
Give support tankgeweher
buff medics a pit instead. plz, just a bit

medics need more versatility
medics got infinite healszzz bro, what more u want
recon need to be more deady
Give them a weapon class that isn't a goddamn SMG
Recon players just need to git gud
i just told you what i want
main weapon grenade launchers for medics 
And buff damage on low RPM SMGs just a tiny bit so they don't lose in their only range against other classes
more versatility
Spawn beacons and smokes man
weak
Why do supports get shotguns but medics don't 

lets just block my line of sight, the thing that recons need
is anyone else kind of hating on assignment, just a little bit?
Ah yes
Yes
i kind of love them, and hate them at the same time
Use it to smoke yourself and not the enemy
were flashbangs ever invented before ww2?
Probably not
that has 6 bullets...
You'd think we'd have seen them in a WW2 game by now
My Lewis does too
my 50 round suomi says otherwise
But you get the idea
yea, slr is weaaak
the rewards are pointless, but i kind of want to complete them. they put pressure on you and makes you play in non optimal ways just to unlock stuff. i have "thrown games" to complete assignments, kind of...
My problem isn't that the rewards are pointless
The problem is what some of them require
getting x kills in a round with a medic, for example...
that makes me play medic in a way that medics are not supposed to be played
kill x people with explosives in a round... running around just focusing on that. not helping your team just to complete it
yeah, ofc. i do too
i had the medics that try to revive without even looking around the corner or popping smoke
but i don't focus on the kills
i don't count them and make kills my primary objectives
assignments make me do that though
yea
one to get the sebalst was to heal vehicles
so one game i just stood behind a vehicle constantly healing it
just waiting for it to take dmg
one was to build fortification guns. i built it, exploded it and built it again....
lol i remember going prone on a tank and going crazy on it
thankfully it only took half a round to get that done, and then i switched and still got first place and won
so thats cool
and sad
i did almost nothing for half the round and still got first place
the rewards are just skins. i don't really care about skins so i don't really know why i bother with the assignments at all...
fukk vehicles and their drivers but thatโs good in my book
the usually just make me annoyed, frustrated and play worse so i should probably just unslot all assignments ๐
always
the clothes you unlock in this game... i'm not fully convinced they are not just the same clothing item i unlock over and over again
the differences are subtle to say the least in many of them ๐
can't say i have ever has an wow-feeling over an cosmetic unlock so far.... ๐
same with weapon skins. "hey! five different colored camouflage filters!"
end of rant ๐
the rewards are just skins. i don't really care about skins so i don't really know why i bother with the assignments at all...
i feel the same exact way
and given how buggy they apparently are, probably for the better that i don't do them
they give me more negative feelings than positives when i grind them
I dont mind cosmetic rewards though.
90% of the time i would have more fun just playing the game ๐
i do when they look bad
it's not just battlefield v for me though, i ignore challenges/assignments in pretty much any game i play
i like to unlock guns. that's fun. something new to test and use
Every game that features cosmetics will have its bad ones
grinding hours for a gun that turns out to be ass though...
better cosmetics then Battlefront 2 pay to win style 
Which gun
yeah. i think they have hit the spot for the guns in this game though
no long grinds needed
They are fucking loud
cosmetic p2w? bf2 is still terrible huh?
yeah i guess you do get just enough time to play with a gun that it doesnโt get boring before moving on
They may have removed its p2w, doesnt change the fact that it happened
So did the TTK changes
which tipped the whole lootbox hatred over the edge imo
like the tales of war progress thing too. you get something useful, a gun in the end. the challenges are somewhat decent and fun and it's a tree so you can skip some challenges
yup. might have to try out some gamemodes you don't usually play ๐
apart from when they're buggy
Is it still bugged out for you?
Pretty strange since you play on Ps4 right?
I got it today but I still have like 5 unfinished ones that won't load
My assault proficiency 2 is fucked
lol yeh i think lots of vehicle noobs
Christmas noobs
Wants more explosive damage even though I've blown the shit out of a bunch of tanks
i love killing christmas noobs in vehicles
I just like stealing vehicles
I think I got my tiger to rank 4 in one run while on hamada
@solid hinge yeah thats weird
because someone bailed on D point
assignments have been fucked for me since I started playing
anyone else get a sense of satisfaction when an enemy calls you garbage and you completely shit on them by the end of the match on the scoreboard? 
fucked on bf2 as well
Tfw noob friendly destroys a vacant tiger you stole and was repairing 
ive been getting good scores in the last few matches but it's been thoroughly unfun
loads of the maps just suck
Aerodrome is godawful
Aerodrome is hit or miss for a lot of people
Panzerstorm is huge and EVERYONE picks semi auto assault
it is if you play airplane
I like the maps, but then I'm always sneaking around as a Recon with slrs
cus no one wants to play Recon
ive been playing recon for ages
my friend initially hated panzerstorm at first
i wanna play medic
but I think he started hateing hamada more
is recon ironsight still cool
ye
and i get fucked
you can only infantry on like
there's the castle area on hamada for medics
Panzerstorm is a nice map
panzerstorm is so flat
I do enjoy panzerstorm
For hamada. I always place a spawn beacon near G when playing as the Axis
despite it's issues
the allied tanks are fucked as well
cus you know squads are gonna backcap
if you take the howitzer as mk viii you lose massive range
but if you take the gun carrier you're useless at anything other than long range anti tank
Howitzer drop is like a brick
I have the howitzer on
why does the t48...have to have a driver and gunner?
Great splash damage
seems like it should be driven by the gunner aka how all the other tanks are done 
tired using one on panzerstorm yesterday but its like....useless with a driver moving you around and not putting you in the correct spots
getting killed from the front with a piat at 25hp
I use the default cannon on the Churchill. Howitzer is to risky with panzerfaust spam combined with tanks
I donโt think you should be that close
is the t48 the anti tank transport?
its the squadcall in
I try not to be
There's only so many people I can handle at once
I literally have no support in a tank 95% of the time
Idk what I'm doing wrong
which is why I stick to default cannons
I don't rush flags neither but will shell the area so friendlies can move in
the gun carrier gets absolutely fucked by infantry
True
gun carrier
Gun Carrier needs backup to work
is a big joke
Why even use the gun carrier
Gun Carrier hits hard but you need backup
Cause the howitzer can't hit anything 5 metres away
Itโs a box on a tank for Godโs sake
The gun carrier has shit splash damage
It supposedly able to take more hits with defense perks
I want to have an AA, a light tank and a heavy tank as my vehicle loadout
same
literally every game a gun carrier is in its a joke, world of tanks, war thunder, bf5..
but with allies if you take the howitzer on the mk vii it becomes useless at anti-tank
Itโs funny when an AA hits you when youโre a tank
and the gun carrier isn't an option
https://www.flickr.com/photos/massimofoti/15189338634 this is what a GC is good for
but you have to take the howitzer to get those certain tank rounds
ahhh
god trying to play when everyone wants to get this tide of war done last minute is so annoying
the selb is really good
best to use it with a 2x or 3x scope
ye
ironsights if your going for a skill cannon
same. more often i'll go with 3x for clear line of sight
scope glint aint a issue when I dont hard scope 
@jovial forge ive tried recon quite a bit now
Drilling or m1 trench shotgun?
@wild nymph different strength?
drilling better for a few people with versatility to kill someone at range
trench for cqb and clearing multiples at once
What do you recommend
yea, theres not a 1 is better than the other generally
they have strengths and weaknesses
i feel like drilling reloads a bit slow
side note, i dont use shotguns
but if i were, i would do drilling
just because having that rifle round for 1 shot potential sounds awesome
is useful
It's basically an underbarrel sniper
70 odd damage at range
headshot is kill
yea, i want to try that gun
but im kinda anti supp
i feel they are too powerful
their kit all around is good
assaults guns are super strong, thats about it
assault piat and frag rifles have been pissing me off recently
they've got the only consistent explosive damage
oh yea, frag rifles seem to be getting popular
idk how many times im like "i gotcha bitch" and they just blast me and kill us both
Yeah
It shouldn't be an instant kill
A fucking tank she'll ain't an instant kill
But a frag rifle is
yea its annoying
It feels like it shoots an actual frag grenade
Like damn even the impact grenade is like 40 damage
Brutal
yea nade launcher needs nerf
Is there any scrap after level 50?
if the frag launcher is that good it doesn't deserve a reload
wdym scrap
And the best guns in the game
don't forget weapons
and the ability to unfuck almost half of their hp
with the regen perk

oh fucking hell i forgot about that


Talk about self sufficient
I mean I wouldn't nerf assault imo
just buff other classes
aka sniper and medic
although medic doesn't need any buffs
well support has shotguns
like, shotguns, mmgs, lmgs
and a practical panzerfaust
Does this game has Anti-cheat yet or naah?
ke7 accurate as fuck
it should @little zenith
supp lays down with any bipod now they are lasers
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Cuz how come I've encountered the same hacker like 3 times this week.
oof
i think theres an argument to be made that assault and supports are pretty equal
Company coins
i think they are more versatile
assault are VERY good at med range
but supports kinda dont lack anywhere
Assault is an all round class tbh
ye


