battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

U can dm me

[proven pagoda]

anyone else feel like the M1897 needs a buff

[amber notch]

Eh

[jovial forge]

Nah

[amber notch]

If it gets its special perk I would be fine with that

[solid hinge]

Rouge wanna squad up?

[little fjord]

I think shotguns felt ok

🤷

[proven pagoda]

at the very best

[little fjord]

I fully spec'd them all

[proven pagoda]

its the same gun it was in bf1

(which I believe it's worse)\

and the competition is far greater

[little fjord]

Gotta get pretty close... closer than bf4

I haven't tried slugs tho

[jovial forge]

@solid hinge I dont mind. Only thing is that I dont talk over mics

[opaque cipher]

12g and M1897 are pretty weak

Drilling is amazing but only 2 shots

[little fjord]

Drilling is so fun

[opaque cipher]

12g is good though with its extended tube

M1897 doesn’t really have much

[solid hinge]

@jovial forge that’s okay

[jovial forge]

I suppose slight range buff is needed but then people would stop whining calling them a10 hunters

[little fjord]

I think this bfv is just so much more deadly at range with everything except smg and shotties

[wooden hare]

Model 10-A

I miss it

[proven pagoda]

@jovial forge fuck those people tbh

shotguns should be massive fuck you weapons up close

[jovial forge]

Agreed

[proven pagoda]

makes even more sense for them to be good in this game since support is the one who sues them

and nobody plays support so let the 2% of people who do have fun

[solid hinge]

Rouge mike have u added me?

[jovial forge]

Check your psn.

[solid hinge]

Ok

[amber notch]

[solid hinge]

@jovial forge squad is full

[sullen tartan]

I just captured footage of a hacker

what do

[amber notch]

!support

[junior mist]

:information_source: Contacting Battlefield Support
If you need to contact the Battlefield Support team for questions you might have, crashing in game and or server issues head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/

Contacting EA Support
If you need to contact EA support about account issues, billing issues etc head over to
https://help.ea.com/en/

[amber notch]

Report them in game

[sullen tartan]

done that too

[amber notch]

Then you can send video evidence if you want to EA via the support page

I’m pretty sure

[sullen tartan]

thanks @amber notch

[echo sand]

@sullen tartan Report them for sure

I reported someone yesterday

[sullen tartan]

Yeah this guy went 57-0 literally shooting people out of the sky in airborne

[echo sand]

Yep, this guy yesterday was 150-0 last time I checked before I quit to report him

Obvious aim bot

[sullen tartan]

too bad its the holidays and I can only email the support line

meaning this hacker is probably gonna ruin games the whole day

[echo sand]

You can report through the Origin client

Unless you did already?

[sullen tartan]

you mean in the scoreboard?

[echo sand]

Nah... one sec

Go to your friends list and search his username like like you're going to add him as a friend, and there is a report option

In the Origin client I mean

Go to view profile

Then there will be a down arrow with the option to block or report them

[sullen tartan]

its the same

as doing it through the scoreboard

ive already done that

[echo sand]

Alright, cool then

[sick fossil]

Any one trying to run squads ?

[vivid lotus]

Endochi got big gay up butt

[brisk elbow]

is there any LMGs with skins like in the trailer? with leaves on it and stuff

[amber notch]

Ok so, on arras, if you shoot one of the gnomes, they start following you and spawning near you with red eyes

And they stare directly at you

What the actual fuck

[little fjord]

[solid hinge]

https://youtu.be/bJYa_UDc6AQ

[echo sand]

@amber notch Lol what?

[jovial forge]

You've disrespected the gnomes. They shall have their vengeance

[dusk ingot]

why wouldn't the Grenade launcher count as explosive... just doesn't make sense

[torpid rivet]

Because the grenade launcher doesn't explode

[opaque cipher]

[torpid rivet]

Hey! I want that emo

[opaque cipher]

Big titty emo gf?

[steep radish]

how long will they be working on BFV for

[torpid rivet]

That too

[steep radish]

ye

I dont think you can redo the events

[torpid rivet]

Ye. Being a bf fan kinda sucks

[steep radish]

Not most retarded

But still a shit idea

Lookin at you Blizzard

I mean I guess

Then again

[opaque cipher]

Most retarded is bethesda

Lmao

Everything they do now is a fuckup

[torpid rivet]

Well, ea's the one who sets the deadline

[steep radish]

EA are still going strong with this bullshit ideology “live service” shit

It is

COD’s doing it right

hell most other games are too

So to see a company who puts this ideology so strongly on their games

is just strange

to see them fuck up so badly which is why Im passing this year’s bf

[echo sand]

😐

[torpid rivet]

At least the game will be replayable for next 1 and half years

[echo sand]

Why are you here?

[torpid rivet]

Until they do the same with the next installment

[echo sand]

I'm loving BFV personally

[fickle herald]

Me too

True

[torpid rivet]

I'm not. You know how long the load time already is?

[fickle herald]

Battlefront 2 was so fucking bad

[steep radish]

@echo sand me?

[torpid rivet]

Especially when I'm playing at 150ms

[steep radish]

Le oofr

So they have two options at this point. To use star wars or actually take the time to develop a fucking game

@echo sand Also Im here because I like BF. If you were asking me

true

[echo sand]

👌

[steep radish]

Then again they just lost 21 billion in stocks

so they’re failing

I really do hope the next game they make is based on vietnam

and I really do hope they dont fuck it up like this year’s game

P much

[torpid rivet]

Well every company had general fall in stocks. But ea and Activision had it the worst

[steep radish]

I mean

Vietnam’s my favorite war so

[torpid rivet]

But they're the biggest in terms of revenue figures. Soo...

[steep radish]

idk what to say bout that

[hushed wren]

does battlefield v have SEA servers?

or just japan?

[steep radish]

If EA fell it would be another video game crash

[proven pagoda]

@solid hinge uhh the setting has a big impact

I enjoy this game a lot because it is ww2

idc what you have to saya bout it

I enjoy it because of the setting

/end

[steep radish]

Then loes how does vietnam make it uninteresting

[torpid rivet]

@solid hinge wat

[steep radish]

I guess

Then again I do play both typed of gameplay

[proven pagoda]

that's just being inflammatory for a reaction

[steep radish]

so I cant really say much

[torpid rivet]

That means there are no historical games cause they are made today

[proven pagoda]

so unless you got something with substance to say

[torpid rivet]

Nice logic boss

[proven pagoda]

👋

[steep radish]

@torpid rivet Rising Storm 2 is a good example

or hell even red orchestra 2

[proven pagoda]

those are made by the same people

could have just said tripwire's games

[steep radish]

I guess

[torpid rivet]

@steep radish never checked it out. Is it good? What is it?

[steep radish]

but you can’t deny theyve made fantastic history shooters

[proven pagoda]

loesch

the setting doesn't have anything to do with the gameplay

[steep radish]

@torpid rivet Id recommend Rising Storm 2 first

[primal sage]

Can you idiots shut up and enjoy or don't enjoy a game?

[proven pagoda]

^

[steep radish]

Then their other games

[proven pagoda]

If you're going to complain at least complain about something real

[steep radish]

@primal sage Ill give my criticisms so no I wont shut up

[primal sage]

Why do we always have to go through this "elitism" of "Oh it's objectively bad, everyone must all see the game the way I do because I demand it."

[proven pagoda]

^

That "it's objective" shit is old

[primal sage]

@steep radish Okay well just realize I also have the choice to just totally fucking ignore you.

[proven pagoda]

loesch nobody wants to hear this shit rn

[primal sage]

I personally LOVED BF1.

[steep radish]

@primal sage well thats fine? I guess?

[proven pagoda]

either you liked Bf1 or you didnt

[primal sage]

It might be a bit trash.

[proven pagoda]

I liked it a lot

I like this one too

[primal sage]

But I had the most epic moments on BF1.

[wooden hare]

Bf1 is great

[proven pagoda]

didnt think I would but I d

[steep radish]

I liked BF1

[torpid rivet]

It's awesome

[steep radish]

And I fucking hate BFV

[proven pagoda]

who fucking cares what you consider a "real" ww1 game

[primal sage]

The pulse pounding music, the little details, the explosion details.

[steep radish]

Hopefully BF6 or Bad Company 3

[proven pagoda]

[steep radish]

might do some justice

[primal sage]

I don't think I've ever felt more fucking alive then the pulse pounding end of an Operation.

Or a Rush round.

In BF1.

[steep radish]

Ye

[torpid rivet]

I don't mind making concessions to setting to facilitate gameplay. They are trying to appeal to larger audience after all

[steep radish]

They ultimately failed in doing so tbh @torpid rivet

[primal sage]

Jesus why did we take like a step forward from "Deadline fuck ups" and then two steps back?

Like last 2 years, it seems like devs realized stupid deadlines might fuck up games.

[torpid rivet]

And larger audience results in quality games

[primal sage]

And they actually put effort into some games.

And then what do they do?

[torpid rivet]

@steep radish yeah. Kinda

[wooden hare]

I wouldn’t have minded waiting another year tbh

[mossy drum]

[primal sage]

GO RIGHT BACK TO RETARDED DEADLINES.

[steep radish]

Me too

[primal sage]

Dude.

[steep radish]

BFV was a colossol fuck up

[compact oxide]

@wooden hare oh hi mark

[primal sage]

NVM.

[compact oxide]

Been ages

[jovial forge]

Feels great hitting top of the scoreboard with a shotgun

[primal sage]

Can we kick this trash already?

[steep radish]

And dice has been doing colossal fuckups for the last few years

If they dont stop they will bite the dust I guarantee you

[torpid rivet]

@solid hinge everyone does that. No need to blame console players

[wooden hare]

you’re tearing me apart

[steep radish]

eggs dee

[hushed wren]

is battlefield 4 still worth getting?

its like 4$

[torpid rivet]

Lisa!

[steep radish]

@hushed wren hell yea

[wooden hare]

yeah @hushed wren

[hushed wren]

i used to play it all the time on ps3 back in 2016

idk if its still alive

[steep radish]

I mean it still id

*is

I still get active players online

[hushed wren]

alright ill check it out thanks

[torpid rivet]

It happens other way around too. It was dice's decision to put women in the game. But everyone blamed ea cause it's easier to load them into hate wagon cause it ea.

[steep radish]

They actually had the chance to make the best WW2 shooter in a LOOOONG time but nah the fucking dumbass that is Soderland and the ea heads

[primal sage]

Shhh....blaming EA is never wrong. They don't need to know more.

[wooden hare]

Bf4 still has at least 10k players btw

[steep radish]

they literally have fucked over every company

[wooden hare]

Nah

[primal sage]

Dice is the one that survived.

[steep radish]

ye

[primal sage]

Also IDK who this bitch with the prosthetic arm is but I have yet to see her.

[wooden hare]

wheres her hair?

[proven pagoda]

they took out the crazy cosmetics

[steep radish]

@primal sage been removed from the game completely

[torpid rivet]

But it was the woman for a lot of them

[proven pagoda]

they'll probably get put back in later

dice isn't going to waste a completed asset

they're just going to wait to do it so you don't notice

[primal sage]

Wait so is that why the customize-zation system is so....lacking?

[steep radish]

No Im sorry what fucking dumbass at dice thought it would be a good idea to put that in a trailer?

[proven pagoda]

the customization is fine

[wooden hare]

Idk about you guys, but I want some hair

[steep radish]

So fucking stupid

[proven pagoda]

we don't need fucking prosthetics and swords

[primal sage]

I mean yeah but...

[proven pagoda]

I minded the dumb cosmetics

I bought the game

you stated a fallacy

[dusky saffron]

oof

[primal sage]

MISSION FAILED! WE'LL GET 'EM NEXT TIME!

[steep radish]

cosmetics are lackluster imo

[proven pagoda]

they're fine

[wooden hare]

press f to...

[proven pagoda]

what do you want from them?

[dusky saffron]

cosmetics are fine

:>

[steep radish]

Idk

[primal sage]

They are fine...but unlocking them is...problematic.

[proven pagoda]

I like it a fuckin lot that they're historical

[dusky saffron]

^

this

[wooden hare]

Where are the cosmetics?

[steep radish]

HA

ALRIGHT

[proven pagoda]

I love the fact we have different unit's unforms

[dusky saffron]

although the epic ones are memey af

[primal sage]

Locked behind in game currency pay walls and assignments.

[dusky saffron]

the base cosmetics

[proven pagoda]

"his console mates"

[dusky saffron]

are realistic

[proven pagoda]

I'm the one trolling right

[steep radish]

“Historical” Yes I saw a fucking union jack gas mask in my documentary watchings

[proven pagoda]

speak to the mods

[dusky saffron]

especially the parka

[proven pagoda]

I play on PC first of all

and second you've been in here trolling for half an hour

[primal sage]

What about the Support Hades?

[dusky saffron]

@proven pagoda don't mind these idiots because the base cosmetics are actual uniforms

[primal sage]

The one with bandilores across the dude's shoulders.

[steep radish]

the cosmetics are literally fucking battlefront type currency

[wooden hare]

wheres ma historical accuracy

[steep radish]

Its so similar

[proven pagoda]

they do

they literally fuckin do

[dusky saffron]

well they needed to create 1.

content

variety

[proven pagoda]

it depends entirely on unit and division

[dusky saffron]

so of course not all of them are realistic

lmao

especially the mastery cosmetics

those are just

[primal sage]

Well actually...the currency needed to purchase cosmetics....is only available by in-game means.

[dusky saffron]

feel good skins

[primal sage]

There's no micro-transactions.

[proven pagoda]

I don't mind that we have some less than historical stuff, just keep it in the realm of reality

no prosthetics

[dusky saffron]

yea practically

[wooden hare]

there are none tho

[primal sage]

You want Company Coin?

Well go and earn it, fucker.

[steep radish]

@dusky saffron 1.Content is lackluster anyways 2. Variety is none because all the fucking soldiers in this game have nothing pop out for any weapon like a camo specific weapon for a gun

[wooden hare]

lets take the normal version of the gun and call it mint

[steep radish]

Or camo specific uniform or some shit

[primal sage]

You mean the preserved and factory fresh version?

[proven pagoda]

nobody said you can't complain

[dusky saffron]

^

[proven pagoda]

we said complain about something that makes a fuck

[primal sage]

Like "Right off the fucking assembly line"?

[proven pagoda]

and expect criticism if your complaint is dumb

[wooden hare]

@primal sage it looks nice tho

Not gonna lie

[primal sage]

It does.

I really do like Mint.

I'd even say I like Mint over Gold-Plated.

Mint is humble.

[wooden hare]

@primal sage wot

What is this

How is gold

[proven pagoda]

And i'm the one trolling

[wooden hare]

Lesser than mint

[primal sage]

I just said.

[steep radish]

Alright then. How come dice called their fanbase “uneducated” but cant get their facts right either

[proven pagoda]

[primal sage]

Gold is garish and flashy and over the top.

Mint is humble and calm.

[wooden hare]

Hm

[dusky saffron]

you mean the one guy that got smashed out the dev team called someone uneducated

[wooden hare]

I haven’t unlocked all gold for my guns

[torpid rivet]

Wait bf4 is 4$!? on origin?

[jovial forge]

I like mint more tbh

[wooden hare]

But I can see what you mean

[dusky saffron]

mint is pretty lit

[steep radish]

in the story mode there is MAJOR historical revisions and shit that didnt exist

[dusky saffron]

though I prefer chromed finish

[steep radish]

except the last tiger

[dusky saffron]

@steep radish they literally say the stories are fictional

[steep radish]

only fucking story I felt was WW2

[dusky saffron]

legit they force you to see it

[proven pagoda]

Mad af

[primal sage]

Mint doesn't stamp gold plates to the stock, or carve intricate, weird and strange designs into the barrel or magazine.

[proven pagoda]

for literally no reason

[steep radish]

@dusky saffron They kept parading it as untold stories

[dusky saffron]

they fucking paraded BF1

AS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE

get over it

[primal sage]

It just straps on some leather, polishes the gun, and says "Yep...I'm good to go."

[steep radish]

HA

HAHA

[wooden hare]

@primal sage gold shows mastery tho. One of the only reasons I’d get it.

[steep radish]

Listen bud

[dusky saffron]

gold is eh

it's too gross ingame

[jovial forge]

Gold is meh.

[primal sage]

Hehe, isn't it past your bed time?

[jovial forge]

Mint looks cooler

[primal sage]

I like the Mint Sten.

[steep radish]

BF1 was different because it was fictional, yes but because of how they did the story I actually felt as if it was in WW1

[dusky saffron]

@jovial forge Chromed was superior

[wooden hare]

you like the sten?...

[jovial forge]

Like fresh off the factory line

[proven pagoda]

im the troll remember

[steep radish]

WW2 feels fucking bland when it came to the story

[jovial forge]

@dusky saffron I havent seen chrome yet

[primal sage]

Rouge that's what Mint is supposed to be.

[dusky saffron]

look it up

especially the stocks

they're lit

like

[jovial forge]

You came to battlefield looking for a story🤔

[steep radish]

@primal sage when somehow you’re more childish than the insult

[dusky saffron]

mp40 sported mainly as chrome and mint

[primal sage]

Like it just got picked up off the assembly line in the factory it was made in.

[steep radish]

@jovial forge I didnt

I came for the multiplayer

[dusky saffron]

also @steep radish they loosely based some events off of the real war and converted it into story

[primal sage]

THEN WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?

JFC.

[proven pagoda]

@dusky saffron some of never happened tho

[dusky saffron]

that too

[wooden hare]

Campaign wasn’t too great

[steep radish]

They were still kinda accurate to how it happened tho

[proven pagoda]

the 2 women stopping the nazis in norway literally didn't happen

[dusky saffron]

duh

[proven pagoda]

like not a bit of it

[steep radish]

This case there were just blatant mistakes

[dusky saffron]

it's a video game as well

[primal sage]

Well also how would we know?

You think people documented that shit?

[dusky saffron]

I'm pretty sure the brits didn't single handedly take out a german airbase

🙃

with 2 people

[opaque cipher]

Bruh

[steep radish]

“Its a video game as well” LMAO SHITTING ALL OVER THE 40-70 MILLION DEATHS THAT TOOK PLACE DURING SUCH A WAR

[wooden hare]

I want to be able to survive falling off a bridge

[primal sage]

"Yeah I was just filing the report about how a girl came in to save her mother and then both took out our supply of heavy water and a fucking commander submarine."

[opaque cipher]

Didn’t you know that WWII was fought with cyborg demon women and minorities?

[proven pagoda]

@dusky saffron I mean I wish they'd at least tell us untold stories that actually happened, instead of untold stories that are untold because they aren't real and nobody ever thought of them until now

[dusky saffron]

@steep radish I guess you're fine with commercializing war in general if you bought any of the >>modern<< shooters

[steep radish]

@opaque cipher man such racists they dont even represent the wheel chair division

[opaque cipher]

Men just worked on factories

[proven pagoda]

The one about the black french division was actually nice, I enjoyed that

[primal sage]

Where's my black, nazi woman?

[proven pagoda]

like i thought it was better than most of the bfv and bf1 war stories

I've heard the last tiger is pretty good

[steep radish]

@dusky saffron Except those modern shooters I bought actually depict how horrific war is and how fucked up actual war is. BF1 campaign did it to a certain extent as well.

[primal sage]

I really wish Dice would add more than 4 stories.

[proven pagoda]

just hate the norway one and the british one

[wooden hare]

Bf1 campaign was very nice

[primal sage]

I want more campaign damn it!

[wooden hare]

Music 10/10

[steep radish]

this again feels fucking bland

[proven pagoda]

I wish they'd just do a traditional story @primal sage

[steep radish]

And instead of adding actual good story

[dusky saffron]

l m a o

[primal sage]

Yes.

[proven pagoda]

People act like regular ww2 isn't interesting anymore

[primal sage]

Letters.

[dusky saffron]

bf3 and 4 actually depict horrific war

[steep radish]

they keep giving this shit after shit after shit and like 2 good ones

[proven pagoda]

when to a lot it still 100% is

[dusky saffron]

[steep radish]

They COULD make a good one

[primal sage]

BF3

[wooden hare]

Bf4 campaign . Lol.

[dusky saffron]

ikr

[primal sage]

Depicts horrific war.

[dusky saffron]

take it with hehe

[steep radish]

They just wont

[dusky saffron]

modern shooters depict war as an action sim

[proven pagoda]

Bf3 and Bf4 seemed more like yeehaw shoot em up in the middle east

[wooden hare]

Which ones

[steep radish]

@primal sage da fuq

[proven pagoda]

which is fine

[steep radish]

I never mentioned BF3

[dusky saffron]

so don't fucking try to get the trivilization argument up

[primal sage]

Oh yeah, the war of men charging around with just knives, teleporting through walls to kill you, murdering with Defibrillators and huge LMGs, killing tanks by SHOOTING C4 and screaming shit like "I'M GONNA DROP THAT BITCH."

[steep radish]

LOL

[dusky saffron]

^

[primal sage]

Yes BF3 depicted a lot of horrific war.

Also that was directed at Alt.

[steep radish]

Alright never even mentioned fucking BF3

[proven pagoda]

I'M GETTING FUCKED UP THE ASS OVER HERE @primal sage

~ American medic

[steep radish]

Twisting shit at this point

[dusky saffron]

@primal sage why me when you can literally scroll up and see that Hehe said it

you dunce

he literally said that modern shooter campaigns depict the horrors of war

[primal sage]

AltToday at 1:56 AM
bf3 and 4 actually depict horrific war

[proven pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhtYOvmPjCE

[dusky saffron]

heheToday at 1:55 AM
@dusky saffron Except those modern shooters I bought actually depict how horrific war is and how fucked up actual war is. BF1 campaign did it to a certain extent as well.

AltToday at 1:58 AM
you dunce

[steep radish]

I again never mentioned BF3

[dusky saffron]

bf3 is a modern shooter

[primal sage]

Lets be real for one moment....BF3 and BF4's campagins were....well, I don't think I need to say BF3 > BF4.

[dusky saffron]

I placed it into your little category

[primal sage]

But BF3 was...

[steep radish]

that was released years ago

[primal sage]

...whoo boy.

[steep radish]

Hmm

[primal sage]

Not even close to being "horrors of war".

[steep radish]

Let me make it specific on “modern shooters”

[wooden hare]

Now I remember

[proven pagoda]

BF3 was an action movie not a drama

[dusky saffron]

if you mean recently released shooters

then i'm about to lmao

[steep radish]

WaW, Rising Storm 1/2, red orchestra 2, and etc

[dusky saffron]

modern shooters<<<

[primal sage]

RED ORCHESTRA 2

[steep radish]

Oh THOS shooters

[primal sage]

MODERN<<<<

[steep radish]

Nvm

[primal sage]

PICK ONE.

[dusky saffron]

current years<<<

[steep radish]

I got confused

[dusky saffron]

after george bush era<<<

yeah

[steep radish]

But anyways

[dusky saffron]

both of you did

lmao

[primal sage]

ALSO WORLD AT FUCKING WAR.

[dusky saffron]

and it's really sad

[wooden hare]

I’m confused , what is the topic <<<

[steep radish]

Rising Storm 2 was released last year

[primal sage]

I don't fucking know anymore<<<

[dusky saffron]

@wooden hare direct that to those two einsteins

[primal sage]

Anyone remember the fucking Train Crash scene from CoD WWII?

[steep radish]

@primal sage COD WW2

That game was shit

[proven pagoda]

If anybody wants to talk about real shit, what specs do I need to upgrade my BF109 with for it to actually be good at dogfighting?

[primal sage]

Just remembered that randomly.

[wooden hare]

sten is bad <<<

[primal sage]

Oh I know it's shit.

[torpid rivet]

Physics! Physics! Physics!

[steep radish]

Im talking about WaW

[primal sage]

The fucking train crash scene is proof.

[wooden hare]

that should fool the mods<<<

[steep radish]

Or old shit like that

[dusky saffron]

those

[shell dock]

boom and zoom in the 109 (even though that should be for 190s)

[dusky saffron]

are not

[mossy drum]

If I just got around to play bf3 should I play that for a while or get bf4/1

[dusky saffron]

holy fuck

I'm done here

[steep radish]

Ik those arent modern

[proven pagoda]

@shell dock Sturm

idk if you know this

but this is BFV not war thunder

[primal sage]

OKAY EVERYONE STOP FOR A SECOND.

What's the topic?

[proven pagoda]

you spin in a circle and shoot the other plane

[jovial forge]

@proven pagoda the 109 and its perks?

[shell dock]

still do that for the 109 until you can get tighter turns

[proven pagoda]

I just want to know what specializations to get for shooting down other planes

[steep radish]

But then again most of these games are fictious but they still get the message on how fucked up war was

And these games dont do anymore of that shit

Its all about censorship

[shell dock]

the spitfire will always outmaneuver you play smart (unless they are the same with turning)

[torpid rivet]

Bf1 does

[jovial forge]

@proven pagoda well for my 109 G-2 I took the right path all the way

[primal sage]

@shell dock NOT TRUE. I was a Spitfire and I couldn't outmanuver TWO FUCKING BOMBERS.

[proven pagoda]

What does the 109 do better?

[wooden hare]

if a faster plane is behind you, slow down so it goes in front of you<

[shell dock]

jesus no need to get mad

[steep radish]

@solid hinge It doesn’t but if based on an actual war them at least try to put that shit in the game

[torpid rivet]

"It ended nothing"

[primal sage]

I'm going to bed.

[steep radish]

@torpid rivet ye

[proven pagoda]

What does the 109 do better than the Spitfire?

[primal sage]

The fighters have two variants Turboclicker.

One variant is focused on destroying ground targets while harassing air targets.

[jovial forge]

@proven pagoda my G-2 has 2x7.92mm and 2x 20mm cannons for fighters or heavy aircrats, air radar, automatic leading edge and rockets

[shell dock]

109 G has wing mounted 20 mils right?

[primal sage]

The other is focused on air targets 100%.

[shell dock]

it depends on your play-style i suppose

[proven pagoda]

Is the G6 the ground attack 109?

[jovial forge]

however if you want pure dogfighting capabilities, go with reinforced wings

[proven pagoda]

and the G2 the anti air?

[primal sage]

Wait no I can't say that I apologize.

[shell dock]

harass ground units and rack up multi-kills or go fighter and keep air superiority and keep your team safe

[jovial forge]

The G2 and G6 can get set up for dogfighting

[primal sage]

Whichever BF has the rockets is the ground variant.

[wooden hare]

I can’t say I haven’t done it before.

[jovial forge]

G6 can get nitrous

[proven pagoda]

both have rockets

[primal sage]

Both have 60 LBS rockets?

[proven pagoda]

yes

[shell dock]

can i say something historical about the rockets here?

[wooden hare]

go ahead

[primal sage]

Sure I guess.

[jovial forge]

@proven pagoda G6 is probably what you want

[proven pagoda]

I mean the difference in spitfires is obvious

one has a lot of MGs for strafing infantry and shooting fighters and one has 20mms for bombers and light vehicles

Idk what I'm supposed to make of the G2 and G6

[shell dock]

The rockets for 109s and 190s were originally meant to disperse B-17 formations not shoot them down (although It could be done if you have good aim but i might be wrong)

[proven pagoda]

feel like you didnt need 21cm rockets to do that

[opaque cipher]

20mm hispanos are actually great infantry and tank killers

[shell dock]

hispanos?

[proven pagoda]

the name of the 20mms

[opaque cipher]

Hispano

[shell dock]

werent those on bi-planes?

[proven pagoda]

no

[shell dock]

unless the brits havent learned yet

[proven pagoda]

They were the 20mm guns the british used throughout the war

they were also on some tanks and american planes

[jovial forge]

For dogfighting go g6, for multi role G2

[shell dock]

B-17s were fine with the 50.cals littered around

[jovial forge]

Sadly the nerf ruins the rearm time for all planes

[wooden hare]

Yup

[shell dock]

slow your speed so you can get more time for strafing

[wooden hare]

Bombers

[shell dock]

F

[primal sage]

The rearm isn’t that bad so long as you have multiple bomb types.

[jovial forge]

It completely makes my G2 109 sorta useless

[opaque cipher]

The rearm is bad

[primal sage]

Or ammo types.

[opaque cipher]

Because all planes are now shit

AA decimate you

[shell dock]

is there a middle ground between ground attacks and fighter?

[opaque cipher]

You can’t kill infantry for shit

Mosquito @shell dock

[jovial forge]

Mosquito bomber

[primal sage]

Well I have 50lbs and 250lbs bombs on my JU-88 and I can slide by just fine.

[jovial forge]

Is a medium bomber

[opaque cipher]

The 4x hispano

It’s godly

[primal sage]

Also can you people not avoid AA?

[shell dock]

Eh light bombers would be more agile but that will work

[primal sage]

Just fly low.

[shell dock]

or pull insane turns

[proven pagoda]

Every BF game has this cycle of air being good and shit

and it always ends with shit

[primal sage]

And then line up a 250 on that fucker and then NAIL him.

[wooden hare]

I’m afraid of branches

[opaque cipher]

You gotta fly back up to bomb infantry

[shell dock]

jets in BF4 are fine in my opinion

[primal sage]

Except on that one map. That city map.

They’re almost impossible to use due to the fucking skyscrapers.

[shell dock]

I love the fire fights than can happen on that tower

oh wait wrong map

shhh

[primal sage]

That was BF3.

[jovial forge]

JU88 was the only nuisance of a plane that needed a nerf though

[primal sage]

The tower top map?

[shell dock]

im talking about the one that collapses

[primal sage]

Oh that one.

[jovial forge]

Seige of Shanghai

[proven pagoda]

@shell dock BF4 ended ok

[primal sage]

Jets are fine there.

[proven pagoda]

BF1 ended like shit though

[primal sage]

I meant the night time city map.

[shell dock]

if jets were in that map then that would be fun

[proven pagoda]

planes are fucking useless on BF1

[shell dock]

not really

[steep radish]

ilya

[proven pagoda]

you're not going to get me to agree

[steep radish]

muroments

[proven pagoda]

the heavy bomber is a'ight

the rest are trash

[shell dock]

i used to dominate the skies in BF1 in my red baron skin

[steep radish]

I mean

[proven pagoda]

fighter's trench fighter thing was made useless

[steep radish]

the fighter planes

arent that bad

[proven pagoda]

and the rest die too quickly

to AA

[shell dock]

the muroments cannons can get kills and can damage other planes

[proven pagoda]

AA in Bf1 is stupid

[primal sage]

@shell dock you are everything I hate about aces.

[jovial forge]

Trench fighter was nerfed into uselessness

[shell dock]

im making the change into tanks

[primal sage]

The trench fighter was OP.

[shell dock]

cause im becoming a tank junkie

but i will happily take down anything in my skies

[primal sage]

You’d just be minding your own business when BAM. You’re dead before you even see the fucking fighter that killed you.

[steep radish]

are they gonna change the tank TTK

In BFV

[jovial forge]

All they had to do was make the payload tighter for aiming and tone down the range the explosives had

[steep radish]

I fucking hate it

[primal sage]

I don’t mind the tank combat TBH.

[proven pagoda]

@primal sage Sure, but it was made useless

[shell dock]

i used to kill half of the entire teams in the muroments

[jovial forge]

Instead they did all that and made direct hits null n void

[proven pagoda]

dice don't know how to just "touch" a weapon

[steep radish]

I despise the tank conbat

[proven pagoda]

they have to hammer nerf it

[steep radish]

Takes WAY too many shots too kill a single tank

at leastbin my experience

[proven pagoda]

yeah tanks need to be dead quicker

[primal sage]

That’s GOOD.

It’s a TANK.

[steep radish]

So?

[proven pagoda]

the staghound and Pz38t should still do the same damage

[primal sage]

It’s an armored fucking fortress!

[proven pagoda]

the PzIV and Valentine should have a bit more

[shell dock]

really the Churchill MK4 and the Tiger would never be able to penetrate eachother frontally

[jovial forge]

That's actually good. Attack the sides and rear of tanks

[proven pagoda]

and the Churchill and Tiger should have a lot more

[primal sage]

It’s built to be STRONG.

[jovial forge]

Big tanks should be beefy

[proven pagoda]

It takes 4 shots to kill a halftrack with a Churchill

[shell dock]

Churchill should be used to support infantry

[proven pagoda]

[primal sage]

Plus when an idiot rolls into a point full of people, he dies quick.

[steep radish]

They still pretty much broke in one shot tho depending on the type of tank

[primal sage]

And the specializations.

[proven pagoda]

no they definitely got destroyed quickly if the enemy could penetrate them

[shell dock]

have you guys seen the shell size for valentines?

[steep radish]

ye

@shell dock no

[proven pagoda]

a Tiger would absolutely fuck a valentine, staghound, and even a churchill up close

same goes vice versa if the Churchill or a TD got anywhere near the Tiger

[primal sage]

Guys if a tank isn’t dying fast, it means the driver is smart.

[steep radish]

Laughs in sherman firefly @proven pagoda

[shell dock]

is there a channel where i can post a pic of it?

[proven pagoda]

No they just don't die @primal sage

[primal sage]

A TD?

[steep radish]

@primal sage nah

[primal sage]

What’s a TD?

[shell dock]

@steep radish also easy 8

[proven pagoda]

Tank Destroyer

[shell dock]

ME

[proven pagoda]

him

[steep radish]

wdym ez 8

[proven pagoda]

the tank @steep radish

[shell dock]

my name is literally assault gun

[proven pagoda]

M4A3E8

[steep radish]

o

OH k

[primal sage]

@proven pagoda i have no idea what you mean.

[steep radish]

I think I know now

[primal sage]

You shouldn’t be able to solo a tank.

[proven pagoda]

Tanks in this game have something like 2-3x the health of previous games when fighting other tanks @primal sage

[primal sage]

That defeats the purpose of the tank.

[proven pagoda]

The infantry versus tanks is fine

Tanks shooting other tanks do no damage

[shell dock]

but my barrel was upgraded to long barrel Pak 40 for anti tank capabilities

[steep radish]

why is it

a panzerfruast

[primal sage]

I’ve fucking killed Panzers...IN A STAGHOUND.

[proven pagoda]

so what

[primal sage]

Multiple!

[proven pagoda]

its possible

[primal sage]

In one round!

[proven pagoda]

doesn't mean it doesn't take 15 shots

[steep radish]

does more damage to a tank than an actual tank

[shell dock]

laughs in M3 Greyhound

[proven pagoda]

M8? @shell dock

[shell dock]

no M3

[primal sage]

The Panzerfaust is the original RPG.

[shell dock]

one killed a king tiger

[proven pagoda]

A M8 greyhound killed a King Tiger

[jovial forge]

Best way to kill a stag is to disable that damn engine

[proven pagoda]

it's M8

not M3

[shell dock]

i read M3 cause it shot 5 or so shots into the engine

[primal sage]

The Panzerfaust shaped charge was designed to FRAGMENT on hit. It’s not just high explosive.

[steep radish]

it still doesnt make sense why a panzerfraust is more powerful

Against an actual tank turret

[proven pagoda]

@primal sage Who cares about the realism aspectg

the problem is tank on tank combat lasts an eternity in this game

[steep radish]

It takes me

[proven pagoda]

the assault can kill tanks fine

[shell dock]

the Panzerfaust was DESIGNED to kill tanks with its Heat warhead

[steep radish]

8+ shots

[primal sage]

You got to get the drop on the fucker.

[proven pagoda]

but other tanks take ages to kill other tanks

[steep radish]

to kill a single fucking tank

[proven pagoda]

it has nothing to do with that @primal sage

you can be directly behind them

it still takes 8-12 shots

[shell dock]

ok fuck @proven pagoda you got me

[primal sage]

Look I don’t fucking see the issue. I think it’s fine.

[proven pagoda]

I played company of heroes @shell dock m

[steep radish]

By the time I get to the objective Im all out of tank ammo

[proven pagoda]

don't fuck with me on that M8 greyhound shit

that was my boy

[shell dock]

I research history cause I enjoy ww2

[steep radish]

I think the thing that genuinely pisses me off is

@shell dock are there supply stations placed on the map for tanks?

[proven pagoda]

there needs to be more supply stations

it seems like there are like 2 on a map and they're always in the back

[shell dock]

yes but they are scattered

[proven pagoda]

so you have to drive to your base when you run out

[steep radish]

EXACTLY

AND BECAUSE TAKING ON OJE TANK EXHAUSTS YOUR AMMO

[proven pagoda]

I've heard you can build them on forward points but everytime I get out and look I don't see any

[wicked garnet]

No need There need to be Call in supply

[steep radish]

YOU NEED TO TREK TO A SINGLE STATION TO GET ALL OF YOUR STUFF BACK

[primal sage]

I’ve found them.

[opaque cipher]

I kill tanks in five shells max

[proven pagoda]

@steep radish did you see my rage earlier

[primal sage]

But the problem is a station needs to be built!

[steep radish]

Its fucking tedious

[opaque cipher]

Stop ricocheting

[wicked garnet]

Same

[proven pagoda]

I had a great game in the PzIV on breakthrough

[opaque cipher]

Or hitting the front

[steep radish]

@proven pagoda dont think do

[proven pagoda]

ran out of ammo, had to drive all the way back to the home base, took 4 minutes

[steep radish]

*so

[shell dock]

use your MG to kill infantry and save the cannon for buildings and tanks

[primal sage]

If you go there and there’s just a wooden pallet and a metal arm, the station isn’t built.

[wicked garnet]

You need to build Said stations

[proven pagoda]

got out, built the depot cause they didnt

and some fuckboy stole my tank

[shell dock]

F

[steep radish]

Eoe

[primal sage]

Yes I despise that

[steep radish]

*Wow

Utter bullshit

[shell dock]

"Eoe"

[proven pagoda]

100% needs to be a way to lock the driver seat as the original driver

[opaque cipher]

Uwu

[wicked garnet]

Tell you team to build it

[proven pagoda]

Say, automatic 20 second period where nobody can take the driver seat if the drive gets out

[primal sage]

It happened once to me but some how he got the message I was trying to send without a mic or a text chat, and I got the driver’s seat again.

[proven pagoda]

it was in the original spawn @wicked garnet

[steep radish]

I fucking love the tanks in BFV but on actual practice they do jack shit

and can be killed off easlih

*easily

[proven pagoda]

I directly asked and he just kept driving @primal sage

[shell dock]

could you imagine if they added the Maus and dumb asses fanboying over it and calling it the best tank in ww2?

[steep radish]

LOL

[proven pagoda]

I mean they already do that with the Tiger

[primal sage]

My staghound can clear a point of all enemies and drop fucking health and ammo for your ass too.

[shell dock]

good luck moving 188 tons over a hill

[primal sage]

Eat it.

[wicked garnet]

Tanks are cancer anyway need to nerf more

[proven pagoda]

definitely not

[shell dock]

jazz music stops

[primal sage]

Sheiken those are fighting words.

[proven pagoda]

How would you even nerf the BFV tanks anymore

the main cannons don't do damage to infantry

[shell dock]

they should add the Stug and Panther NOT THE PANTHER D

[proven pagoda]

the ammo supply is scarce

[primal sage]

Or they do but you need to be as precise as possible.

[proven pagoda]

assaults eat their ass for dinner

[primal sage]

Unless you have the 80 mm howitzer oh the Churchill.

[proven pagoda]

they're good for sure but not good enough to consider even thinking about nerfing

[opaque cipher]

Don’t use main gun on infantry

[shell dock]

Tiger 2 would be nice

[primal sage]

In which case BLOW THEM ALL THE FUCK AWAY!

[steep radish]

Car salesman:slaps roof of Tiger 1
transmission breaks
catches on fire
engine on fire
tank breaks down
germany breaks down

[proven pagoda]

I don't

[shell dock]

germany splits

[primal sage]

You forgot Treads snap

[steep radish]

lmao

[shell dock]

thats panther

no thats its transmission

[proven pagoda]

1/3 of Germany's Panthers were combat ready during Kursk

[steep radish]

o le oofe

[proven pagoda]

Panther best tank ja ja ja

[steep radish]

HA

[primal sage]

Jagdtiger :3

[shell dock]

The later variants were much better

nope

[primal sage]

I’m kidding.

[proven pagoda]

unfortunately for Germany our friend Sturm here was their best vehicle probably

[primal sage]

Sturmtiger did the same job far better anyway.

[steep radish]

They need to improve tank battles in BFV end of story

[shell dock]

128mm gun and over 200mm effective frontal armor thats all

goddammit

[steep radish]

because it lasts way too long

[shell dock]

not the sturmtiger either

[primal sage]

The STURMTIGER WAS GOOD.

[shell dock]

in warsaw

[shut brook]

I got a nice streak of kills and thought I was shadow playing it but apparently the image stopped right after I started recording

[primal sage]

Sherman was still best tank.

[shell dock]

easy 8

[steep radish]

Molentov pact

[shell dock]

easy 8 best tank of war

[steep radish]

So fellas a couple thousand germans walk into a winter

[shell dock]

and die

[primal sage]

A Tiger was worth 4 American tanks. Unfortunately, they always had Five.

[steep radish]

the get pushed back

[shell dock]

ew ew ew

i hate that fucking myth

[steep radish]

Shermans were gud

[shell dock]

NEVER say that again

[steep radish]

They were considered to have best of technology at the time I think

[wooden hare]

DiD yOu NoT pLaY the last tiger?

[primal sage]

It’s just a saying telling that Americans had A FUCKLOAD of tanks.

[shell dock]

Firefly and M4A3E8 could take it out anywhere even frontally

and alot more

ALOT MORE

[primal sage]

.>

[wooden hare]

“Tigers often ran out of ammunition before they ran out of enemies”

[steep radish]

*BUT MAH TIGER TANKE( @shell dock

[shell dock]

500,000 shermans were made tho

[steep radish]

IT WAS WORTH MULTIPLE TANKS

[primal sage]

Americans didn’t use the Firefly or the M4A3E8...

[steep radish]

MuLtIpLe

[shell dock]

in the last tiger they dident

[steep radish]

@primal sage wut

[primal sage]

Also friend of South.

[shell dock]

cause reasons we dont know

[proven pagoda]

@primal sage Americans didnt use the M4A3E8?

Who did then?

[shell dock]

they did

[steep radish]

the germsnd themselves used it?

[proven pagoda]

I know let him answer

[shell dock]

they were used in Korea as wel

[steep radish]

Lol

[proven pagoda]

Even just the regular M4A1 and M4A2 tanks with 76mm guns were fine

[primal sage]

It’s “They [The Tigers] often ran out of ammunition before the enemy ran out of tanks.”

[proven pagoda]

the E8 was just good suspension

[shell dock]

and gun

[steep radish]

@proven pagoda HA

[wooden hare]

@primal sage close enough

[steep radish]

Oh wrong tag

[proven pagoda]

the other shermans had the same gun

you found 76mm guns on M4A1s and M4A2s too

[primal sage]

I was gonna say Brits. The Brits made the Firefly

[shell dock]

short barrel 75mm

[steep radish]

oh ye

[proven pagoda]

Well sure @primal sage

[primal sage]

Which was A PIECE OF SHIT.

[proven pagoda]

But any sherman with an american 76mm is the same thing

[steep radish]

the brits mostly invented some of our shit

[shell dock]

it killed wittman

you fucking read that right

[wooden hare]

We got some history buffs here, which is nice, other than the fact that I can barely understand.

[primal sage]

Firefly was a Frankenstein fucker that needed to be put down.

[proven pagoda]

Firefly was a stopgap

[steep radish]

@shell dock who id wittman

[proven pagoda]

except the british never came out with anything better till the comet

[shell dock]

German tank ace

[steep radish]

I believe I heard of him before

[proven pagoda]

Nazi tank ace

[steep radish]

Western Front I believe

[proven pagoda]

I don't use that word lightly

[shell dock]

he had 135 tank kills before he died from a FIREFLY

[steep radish]

did he fight in the eastern

or western front?

[shell dock]

In france

[proven pagoda]

he was on both

but died in france

[steep radish]

oh

[shell dock]

heavy tank battalion 101

[primal sage]

Gun won’t fit? Just put it in sideways. Oh the radio won’t fit now? Cut a fucking hole in the turret for it. ENGINE ISN’T GOOD ENOUGH? STRAP 5 CAR ENGINES TOGETHER THEN!

[shell dock]

tank number 007

[steep radish]

I was about to say the 6th panzer brigade

[shell dock]

2 shells into the front and turret popped off

[proven pagoda]

pretty sure wittman's tiger's ammo cooked

[shell dock]

Thank Joe Ekins

it did

[proven pagoda]

so uhh

[wooden hare]

not really fair ... kinda ..:

[proven pagoda]

he burned in hell before he went to hell officialy

[shell dock]

well its turret popped off

[proven pagoda]

tell that to the ammo

I don't think the ammo cares

[shell dock]

kinda does or else how you gonna shoot your 88?

[steep radish]

ammo:so uh
wittman:dont

[shell dock]

love it already

[proven pagoda]

ammo: i've been shot so uhh

wittman: stop

[wooden hare]

ammo:

[steep radish]

wittmanpls stop

[shell dock]

Ammo:im making a reference for 1945 you just dont get it yet

[wooden hare]

wittman:where’d ya go

[steep radish]

WITTMAN: SHUT

[primal sage]

I still think the Firefly was held together with duct tape, chewing gum, paper clips, and prayers.

[wooden hare]

ammo:

[shell dock]

it got the job done

[steep radish]

@shell dock like for Wittman...

[shell dock]

even if recoil dampeners were removed

[primal sage]

ACTUAL FUCKING INSANITY.

[steep radish]

what

[primal sage]

HOW DID THE TURRET NOT FLY OFF WITH EACH SHOT?

[steep radish]

wdym

[shell dock]

took a break between shots

[proven pagoda]

I mean it'd just be uncomfortable

[shell dock]

(like panthers)

[proven pagoda]

it's not going to make bolts fly off

[steep radish]

like t 34’s

[primal sage]

Fucking INSANITY.

[steep radish]

@primal sage in game?

[primal sage]

Shut!

[shell dock]

american or soviet T34s?

[proven pagoda]

obviously soviet

[steep radish]

@shell dock soviet

[shell dock]

you should have said NUTS

[proven pagoda]

nobody cares about the american t34

unless you play wot or wt or something

[steep radish]

there was an american t34

?

[proven pagoda]

prototype

[steep radish]

Why?

[shell dock]

it was a heavy

[proven pagoda]

unrelated to soviet one

[primal sage]

It was a heavy. Apparently.

[steep radish]

why

[primal sage]

I just saw a pic.

BIG BOI

[proven pagoda]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/T29_Heavy_Tank.pnghmApxlwtKRvc3OfF8oPNKv2iVXmGsJPCST4AJrNobVrHqYevG7+W5o/ycI817RQwzGWYxrBwaA0eSLCDxyn0X2xVHWHo5/HVYP

[steep radish]

Anyways

[proven pagoda]

just click that

[shell dock]

look at the American T-95

[steep radish]

@proven pagoda >file not found

[shell dock]

not wot

[steep radish]

fellers

uh

[proven pagoda]

ok click this

http://johnsmilitaryhistory.com/t34a.jpg

[steep radish]

fix the tank combat

[shell dock]

monkey

[primal sage]

A SUPER HEAVY!?

[steep radish]

@proven pagoda that looks terrible

[primal sage]

EVEN AMERICA TRIED THAT SHIT!?

[proven pagoda]

why @steep radish

[shell dock]

it never saw use

[primal sage]

THEY MADE THE FUCKING THING!?

[shell dock]

it was made to break the Siegfried line

[proven pagoda]

yes, they built 50 @primal sage

[steep radish]

I dont like the look

[proven pagoda]

no combat service

[steep radish]

Le oofe

[primal sage]

WHAT!?!?!

[shell dock]

they actually made 2 of them

one got lost in a field for like 30 years

[proven pagoda]

Sturm is talking about the T95

just so we're clear

not the T29 or T34

[wooden hare]

Just attach naval artillery to a giant tank

Boom

[primal sage]

I THOUGHT ONLY GERMANY AND RUSSIA WERE SUCKERED INTO THE “SUPER HEAVY TANK” CRAZE.

[shell dock]

i just said why it was made

[primal sage]

And how does a tank get lost in a field for THIRTY YEARS?

[proven pagoda]

no america did that shit too

[shell dock]

and the brits

[proven pagoda]

Up to speculation @primal sage

[shell dock]

Tortoise

[proven pagoda]

yeah tortoise too for the british

[primal sage]

Did it sink in mud!?

[shell dock]

both 300mm frontal armor

[proven pagoda]

somewhat yes @primal sage r

[steep radish]

fellas

uh

[shell dock]

both different designs for same purpose