battlefield-legacy-titles

[kindred orchid]

Cause it's the only one with a non-shit 2x.

[solid hinge]

so that put me off it

[deep harbor]

doesn't Selbstlader have too much of a bullet drop to use it with a 6X?

[solid hinge]

I really like the 2x scope

@deep harbor i was using krag

[deep harbor]

Oh ok

[dense bone]

i tried iron sights, dont like it, now im doing x3

its ok

[solid hinge]

I was at radar on aerodrome and they were like.. barely out of B

[dense bone]

i cant even 3 shot body shot at range though

soooo why wouldnt i use m1a1 or 1-5

[solid hinge]

that's why the model 8 sucks ass

1906 is always a two shot

[kindred orchid]

That's the problem with SLRs vs. Semi-Autos.

Left click to win with no recoil.

[deep harbor]

I'd rather use M95 than any SLR's in BFV

[dense bone]

there was just so many scenarios where i was like "i could have killed them if i had a semi auto"

and 5-6 bullets?

geesh

youre not going to be clearing multiple people thats for sure

[dusk ingot]

So are the tides of war assignments unachievable now?

[kindred orchid]

I enjoy using the ZH-29, but I'm still missing mastery assignments due to a bug. :/

[dense bone]

@dusk ingot if they werent for you its glitched

inever had problems with them

[icy sluice]

How objective spawning works:
https://gfycat.com/ImpressionableDistortedAnteater

[kindred orchid]

I just saw that on reddit.

[icy sluice]

Yeh

[deep harbor]

@dense bone yeah I won't be, but I really love the gun, it gives a good feel every time you land that headshot, especially if you are trying to play aggressive with it

[dense bone]

yea obj spawns are insane

[solid hinge]

I'm pretty sure recon is designed for fire support

[icy sluice]

It totally is, I have several clips killing 5 people behind friendly soldiers

[dense bone]

i mean, like i said, i dont like recon because a lot of it kit requires you to depend on other people

[solid hinge]

You can still clear up by yourself

Fun to get 3 kills with the slr and then a couple more with the revolver

[dense bone]

i CAN but its way harder than with any other class

[kindred orchid]

I wish they'd have a real purpose, cause if you give them spawn beacon and throwing knives, that seems to mean they're designed for reconnaissance, but they don't have a main weapon that really supports that, Model 8 is okay, just not great.

[deep harbor]

That's one way of looking at it dude, but with a little bit of effort and practice, you can be really efficient with recon too

[solid hinge]

throwing knives suck ass at the moment

[deep harbor]

They nerfed the fuck outta throwing knives

[dense bone]

like i said, im still fighting for first place as recon, but with medic or assault i am first place, and hardly ever not

[deep harbor]

I believe they need to nerf Medic class

not a lot of people out there play medic

[solid hinge]

it feels like recon misses out on capture points

[deep harbor]

mainly because they can't handle the smg's

[kindred orchid]

You have to land all your shots regardless of kill as Recon to get a comfortable top spot as Recon.

[solid hinge]

which is a significant boost to score

it also doesn't help that at the moment hitboxes are janky

[kindred orchid]

Or play on a huge map where there's less point capping due to spread out objectives, IE Twisted Steel.

[solid hinge]

the last match i did had an incredibly frustrating number of not headshot headshots or just shots that didn't register at all

[dense bone]

also, how the fuck does flare gun work

[dusky saffron]

or use dmrs

wdym

have you ever used a flare gun irl

[kindred orchid]

You shoot it and let the enemy know you're around.

[solid hinge]

flare gun basically doesn't work

[dusky saffron]

🙃

[solid hinge]

the circle is literally about 5 metres wide

[kindred orchid]

And when you get shot, you know an enemy's whereabouts.

[dense bone]

right thats what i thought

[solid hinge]

if you were gonna hit anyone with it you would have to already know they were there

[dusky saffron]

the new mechanics for it are better

but the spotting range

is awful

[kindred orchid]

Not to mention you can shoot it out.

[dusky saffron]

the circle is like 1/10 of minimap

[solid hinge]

The mechanics are better but they made the range about 20 times smaller

[dense bone]

lol yea?

[kindred orchid]

I always shoot it out when I see it.

[dusky saffron]

ye

I mean it beats bf1's

[solid hinge]

Like literally 20 times

[dusky saffron]

since that shit was just

[dense bone]

so its spotting scope or flare

[dusky saffron]

"unga shot ground"

[solid hinge]

Bf1s actually spotted things

[dusky saffron]

"ground lit"

[dense bone]

both which imo are weak

[dusky saffron]

"fire"

[kindred orchid]

BF1's Flare was literally a mini molotov shot.

[dusky saffron]

ye

[solid hinge]

I like spotting scope for sniping

[kindred orchid]

With AoE spot.

[dusky saffron]

and you couldn't counter it

[solid hinge]

The glint is a problem but if you identify targets with the scope first then you can shoot them quickly and minimize glint time

[kindred orchid]

If it didn't light you on fire, it would've been nice, or if you walked on it, it'd snuff out.

[deep harbor]

can spot way better with spotting scope than the flare gun, if that's what it could even be called

[dusky saffron]

yeah it should've gotten a counter function

[dense bone]

yea but id rather shoot than spot

[icy sluice]

Just don't use scopes :v

[dense bone]

ya know...

[dusky saffron]

like walking on it or something would've went out

but it was just

stupid

[solid hinge]

It only takes a second to spot

Helps with target identification at long range too

[dusky saffron]

that's why sniper is the baby class of bf1

🐍

[solid hinge]

Obviously there's situations where it's better to shoot first

But if you can spot a few targets at once then it's worth a quick zoom

[kindred orchid]

I usually spot if I see a zerg running in so my team mates don't sit there taking it up the butt with no knowledge.

[dusky saffron]

spotting scope is definitely worth

[kindred orchid]

I recently learned that team mates don't see the radius of the flare, or if it even works when it spots.

[icy sluice]

Why not use flare and scope?

[kindred orchid]

Beacon is too strong to replace.

[solid hinge]

They don't let you!

[dusky saffron]

because they're both on the same slot??

[solid hinge]

also because beacon is fucking neat

[kindred orchid]

Although everyone be putting down those damn anti-infantry mines all day.

So annoying.

[dusky saffron]

ap mines are like

50/50

I like using them

but it's either

they don't kill me

[solid hinge]

those mines need a nerf to visibility

[ruby tangle]

K98 is my bae 🤤

[dusky saffron]

or they don't kill my enemy

[kindred orchid]

You have to put 2 together.

[zealous void]

@ruby tangle SAME

[solid hinge]

that's why you pick support

[zealous void]

Kar98 is amazing

[ruby tangle]

the one and only crafter

[zealous void]

Tell me when you see it

Wait which Crafter there are two

[dusky saffron]

uh what

[zealous void]

lol

[dusky saffron]

anyways

[solid hinge]

what's the difference between kar98 and krag?

[ruby tangle]

no but I know you from youtube

[zealous void]

History

@ruby tangle there are still two lol
unless you know me by my logo in my PFP then yes it's me

[ruby tangle]

yes I also know the logo

[zealous void]

YAY

[teal phoenix]

Seriously what the hell are people doing requesting to be revived outside when they know damn well the enemy is focusing fire on the one objective we have left

[zealous void]

[dense bone]

yea, dont like seblt at all

[ruby tangle]

lol

[zealous void]

Yeah I'm making a spitfire video now 😎

[ruby tangle]

nice

[dusky saffron]

people have the right to request revive under heavy fire the same way medics ignore people 5 m away from them

🙃

[kindred orchid]

I hold on in case people clear the area, I fully don't expect people to run in the middle of gunfire to save me.

[ruby tangle]

@zealous void I had your bf 5 flute theme video in my playlist for months

[solid hinge]

i wish you could cancel medic requests

[zealous void]

Oh yeah that hit 100k views

[dusky saffron]

I mean

[solid hinge]

like

[dusky saffron]

it automatically applies I think

[zealous void]

Second most viewed on my channel and i feel great lol

[dusky saffron]

even if you don't request it

[ruby tangle]

[dusky saffron]

it'll show up as an icon

[solid hinge]

When you're dying you should be able to not want medic revives

[zealous void]

Glad you enjoyed it, even if i only uploaded it, not OC 😭

[dusky saffron]

oh yeah definitely

[zealous void]

lol

[solid hinge]

I've had people dash to res me when i know they'll die and I'm trying to stop

[dusky saffron]

it'd be pretty funny if they made a bleedout animation where you just

push out a medic

from reviving you

because either

1. you wanna respawn

2. they're gonna get you killed

ree

[solid hinge]

2.they

[dusky saffron]

new keyboard

but ye

my fav moment from the other >>medics<< is when they perma me

[zealous void]

New keyboard?

[dusky saffron]

by reviving under heavy fire

[zealous void]

show

[dusky saffron]

this is #battlefield-legacy-titles

no

[zealous void]

not here

#general , post an imgur link

[dusky saffron]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zealous void]

i have a newish keyboard

[ruby tangle]

sent you a friend request on origin crafter

😃

[zealous void]

you did? alright ill go see

Wait

is your name actually matt

[ruby tangle]

no haha

[zealous void]

awww mine is

lol

[ruby tangle]

i shortened the name Matthäus lol

[zealous void]

is that your name then? 😛

[ruby tangle]

no

[dusky saffron]

yikes

[zealous void]

😭

this shotgun is powerful, you guys have to try it

[dusky saffron]

@solid hinge I just got the selb today

🙃

[icy sluice]

Oh yeah I forgot they fixed how weapons show in the shipments menu

[dusky saffron]

wdym

[kindred orchid]

That shotgun is not much different than the Automatic 12g.

[icy sluice]

Remember when the Selbstlader and VGO were like a mile away from the camera?

[olive fulcrum]

Does anyone know how to complete the AT infantry challenge on tides of war? I swear I’ve shot a billion rockets at vehicles and it doesn’t complete

[dusky saffron]

oh yeah

lmao

assault damage to vehicles is buggy

[kindred orchid]

You have to make sure the server you're on is tracking your ToW stuff.

[dusky saffron]

that too^

[kindred orchid]

When you're in a game and you hit esc to see the menu, on the top right, if it shows ToW assignments, then it's tracking.

[zealous void]

I'm not saying the glitches aren't stupid, they are, but I've never ever had that problem like everyone has been complaining about

I'm really lucky for that lol

Someone said if you only track 3 assignments at once it will fix it

[kindred orchid]

I only have a limited amount of hours per week to get it, so it's really frustrating when you can't knock 'em out quickly due to a bug.

[dusk ingot]

I can't seem to progress the vehicle spotting one.

[zealous void]

That's really unfortunate, sorry dude

@dusk ingot You are using Scout, right? I think thats what you have to do it with

[dusk ingot]

Yeah but when you ping the vehicle it doesn't do anything

[kindred orchid]

The worst is you'll be in a game that's been tracking your stuff and randomly it'll stop and resets. :/

[dusk ingot]

It say enemy not vehicle lol

[zealous void]

Try using flares, maybe idk

Flares spot for sure

Pinging seems inconsistent

I've had the opposite problem Cynik, I've actually had things track over two rounds even if it was an "in one round" assignment lol

I've also had one complete without me even getting near the requirement

[kindred orchid]

Yeah, I've had that happened before.

[olive fulcrum]

Ugh it’s irritating

[zealous void]

It was the final profic. assignment for the G43, I left the round depressed since i didnt get the 10 headshots in the round and i found the mint receiver in my armory

And the assignment had been completed so uhhhh

[olive fulcrum]

I should’ve completed it like five games ago but it’s stuck on 74/200

[kindred orchid]

I think my STG44 Mastery had that, the 20 enemies while attacking objectives in 1 round or something.

[zealous void]

And it just got completed even withoutt you actually doing it?

And @olive fulcrum I wish I could help 😦 good luck

[kindred orchid]

I was doing it, but I'd always be short by 1-2.

After a couple games it just completed.

[zealous void]

high five 🤚

lol

I think I've had it happen once before, but I didn't think much of it because it was easy anyways so i assumed i miscounted

But I looked back and was sure i never completed it

Yet it gave me the reward anyway

[olive fulcrum]

No worries: if you see someone on PS4 throwing everything at a tank it’s me

[zealous void]

I'm on PC 😉 but if I ever make the move I'll keep an eye out

[kindred orchid]

I always throw everything at tanks regardless of assignments.

It always annoys me to see 4 assault hiding when there's a tank rolling around.

[zealous void]

Well I'm pretty forward with using all my stuff at once so if it was ever me it was because i had no ammo

[kindred orchid]

And that's when I wished Support ran with the crates more often.

It's a nice surprise to see 2-3 crates littered around that's not next to the fortification crate.

It might be less points in the long run, but it has been a life saver as an Assault.

[olive fulcrum]

I feel like whenever armor shows up everyone is suddenly not assault

Like shit if y’all wanna be shot up be my guest

[kindred orchid]

Cause people use the Piat and Panzerfaust for infantry.

I literally watched a guy run around with a Piat in a building and just instinctively suicide bombered himself with it.

[dense bone]

yep, its safe to say im done with recon and slr

if im going recon ill be using bolt

[kindred orchid]

If there's anything the SLR is good for, it's good for practice to be better with semi-autos.

[dense bone]

they are slightly stronger, but worse in every other way

[solid hinge]

slr is basically just for assaulting a point within the capture range

[dense bone]

i dont get them

[solid hinge]

it's a shit version of the semi auto for the sniper

[kindred orchid]

The Model 8 is especially bad in comparison.

[dense bone]

i think they are good on specific maps

but thats pretty rare

[deep harbor]

Bolt action is ❤

[kindred orchid]

Cause it's like 3 shots at medium/long.

[dense bone]

and id still prefer to tak a semi

[kindred orchid]

And at that point, some semi-autos are the same with less recoil and more bullets.

[solid hinge]

their reloads are massive too

[kindred orchid]

ZH-29 isn't too bad, if you don't empty out the clip.

[dense bone]

i will say i didnt get to the zh

[kindred orchid]

But if you do, that's another half second.

[dense bone]

but really, i dont see that changing my opinion

[zealous void]

For some reason I have much better aim with the Kar98K than any other gun

I have absolutely no clue why

but when I look down the hooded iron sights i feel confident

then i just land shots

It's great

[solid hinge]

the zh has lower recoil than the 1906

iron sights on a bolt action..

[zealous void]

its good

close-medium range

So i can be an aggressive team player

[solid hinge]

the kar has the lowest fire rate of every bolt action

[kindred orchid]

You def need that sling and swap specialization.

[solid hinge]

and less damage than the gewehr

[zealous void]

But add the throwing knives and I can hold my ground

[dense bone]

recoil doesnt bother me, its the low rof, low mag size, while only barely outdoing semi in dmg, not to mention no ndydar sight

[zealous void]

Even just 2

instead of 4 or 6 or whatever it was

6 right?

i did a whole video on this topic how did i forget

[kindred orchid]

It used to be 6.

Now it's 2.

[dense bone]

yea until they change recon im not playing it

[solid hinge]

6 knives?

[zealous void]

I want their range to be 10m and 3-4 knives

[kindred orchid]

But you resupply if you pick up people's packs.

[zealous void]

throwing knives at once

But you can only carry 2, which is stupid

[solid hinge]

you could have fucking 6 knives?

[zealous void]

The range was 13m for body shots and carrying 6

[kindred orchid]

Yeah.

[zealous void]

It's not that good

Trust me

[kindred orchid]

I used to take out entire squads with throwing knives.

[zealous void]

It wasnt*

[solid hinge]

it sounds a lot better than currently

[zealous void]

There's wind up, slow velocity and serious drop + damage

[solid hinge]

holy shit

[zealous void]

They're TOO bad now

[kindred orchid]

It's silent and ranged.

[zealous void]

They would be best in the middle ground

[solid hinge]

yeah but the flanking potential

[kindred orchid]

And missing 1 or 2 wasn't too bad.

[zealous void]

10m 1hk instead of 13 OR 6m as it is now

[kindred orchid]

Now if you miss 1, you're done.

[zealous void]

and 3-4 at one time

6 was a bit muchfor most players imo

[kindred orchid]

But people bitched nonstop about 'em.

So what can I say.

[solid hinge]

maybe recon wouldn't use them so much if it wasn't so shit

[zealous void]

I literally (and i mean LITERALLY) cant remmeber getting killed by throwing knives in my time in BF5

[kindred orchid]

I just want an SMG for Recon.

That's all I want.

[zealous void]

I kinda liked the archetype system they showed

With garottes and other stuff

[kindred orchid]

Yeah.

[zealous void]

That was cool

Oh well

[solid hinge]

give the medic a bolt action and give the recon an smg

[zealous void]

lol

just one?

:p

[solid hinge]

just one

sneaky

[zealous void]

why is ya nickname "(banned)"

[solid hinge]

I didn't realise people respawned in real life

[little fjord]

I like the throwing knives... I just use it to make sure someone doesn't hear me walking up behind them

If they're prone I just melee...

[zealous void]

Don't worry broken footsteps make that easy

[little fjord]

It's not broken 100% of the time right?

I know I've been killed by an enemy running up metal stairs making zero noise

Got a little triggered

[solid hinge]

sometimes you crouch walk and it sounds like you're stamping on broken glass

sometimes you sprint and it makes absolutely no noise

[little fjord]

[strong parrot]

lets try for this 3 revives in 1 life again

even though i did it about 3 times earlier..

holy shit the irons on the thompson are actual trash

[kindred orchid]

Yeah.

Should just hipfire anyways.

[solid hinge]

do you have to complete all the collectibles and challenges for the melee weapons?

and in that case i should play it not on hardcore right?

[pulsar summit]

yep

[solid hinge]

just play on easy

damn it

that's lame

but no way I'm playing through twice

easy and challenge hunting it is

[strong parrot]

lol why the fuck is it so hard to hold 2 points on devastation ...

we own E i spawn D side from the main spawn...cap D, run from D and weve already lost E and as soon as im out of the cap circle were already losing D...loop back around onto D killing more people then die yet again where is the rest of my team i have no idea

rip....get 12 kills with the thompson that round and its not even lvl 2 yet

[gray sleet]

Guys

Wanna see my ebic kill

[solid hinge]

it often feels like you are the only one taking points

your entire team can't take any point and the one you're defending is okay so you go and take a point solo/with eventual squad support

[strong parrot]

lmao next match fucking hamada as the allies

[solid hinge]

and once you've cleared it out and neutralized it suddenly your entire team rolls up to help capture the cleared point you have under control

[strong parrot]

after we bleed 200 tickets i just left...not even a fun map

[solid hinge]

hamada is shit to attack on

it's so easy to just stall them

[strong parrot]

yuuuup, it looked like 1 person was capping G but im not waiting around to see if we miracle win it

[solid hinge]

you have to flank G if you want a chance but it takes fucking forever to drive up there

[strong parrot]

we got A...and its just like surrounded by fucking tanks still

and all the enemies are just lined up shooting at you

i cant do shit with a thompson there...and now i get panzerstorm

[solid hinge]

long range maps that are NOT friendly for medics

[strong parrot]

i enjoy twisted steel

[gray sleet]

Just a question

How is the recoil for weapons in bfv

[strong parrot]

i went40-17 i believe earlier...so many noobs on both teams i had like 17k score next dude had 14

[gray sleet]

Bf1 was kinda hard to control for example the first gun for assault class

The m18 trench gun I believe

[solid hinge]

twisted steel is amazing. reminds me of band of brothers

[undone cave]

Every gun is pretty easy to control

Even mg42 isn't that bad if your bipoded

[solid hinge]

Yra

[undone cave]

Getting gud tends to help too

[little fjord]

I can't think of a weapon with really bad recoil

[undone cave]

First assault one takes a few games to get used to but after that it all turns down to just keep dragging your mouse a bit

[little fjord]

Maybe that one support gun... fg? 2lthe one with 20 rounds

[undone cave]

Although honestly if you just want high kill games every game use semi auto rifles like m1a1

[strong parrot]

fucking people on panzerstorm are dumb

all the tanks sitting there....just shooting infantry half the team is assault but no tanks ever die

[storm marlin]

Next year I’m gonna wait in a gillie suit with a Mg42 and a spiked cricket bat waiting for Santa to climb down my chimney, then I’m gonna say it was self defense and get away with murder!

[strong parrot]

fucking light tank with an auto cannon kills me 4 times before i switch to assault and then magically we shoot him and he dies...

27-1 dont worry guys dont shoot him just let him run back to a repair and resupply station every minute

[zealous void]

jeez

[undone cave]

At least it's not 3 supports constantly repairing a light tank because they're in the same clan

I keep running into people who queue snipe each other so half of the enemy team had an AOC clan tag and like 6 on my team

[steep radish]

im

starting to not enjoy this year’s BF

[tribal cairn]

That one pilot going 100-0 with 100 Stars in an attack plane really bugs me

[steep radish]

Im playing BFV right now

[tribal cairn]

You turn a corner,

Bombs

[steep radish]

And holy crap this is just

[tribal cairn]

Spawn and walk out of spawn?

Bombs

[steep radish]

bad

this game is pretty good

[amber notch]

Ok

[steep radish]

but I just

[icy sluice]

Can't have a good time?

[steep radish]

cant have myself like i because of some of the stuff Ive seen so far

[strong parrot]

ugh didnt get to lvl 3 with the thompson...no drum for me this round

[amber notch]

Ok

[west plinth]

🆗

[steep radish]

Like why is it that medic only get submachine guns but every other class gets three different classes of weapons

[amber notch]

Because that’s how they designed it

[steep radish]

Thats dumb though.

It just gives the medic class less to work with

[deep harbor]

It's actually not

[tribal cairn]

Well, medic ain't made for combat, just to revive

That SMG is basically self defense or support

[amber notch]

I don’t want every single person in my game running around with a 900rpm tommy gun

[deep harbor]

Medic is one of the deadliest classes in BFV, should you be fighting close quarters. And that is exactly how they have designed it, that is it's purpose

[amber notch]

Ty

[west plinth]

Medic got a huge utility boost with the addition of non-infinite healing, so it's alrighty

[steep radish]

Meanwhile with other classes you could have a variety of long range to medium range weapons making them versatile

[undone cave]

And 4 smokes is awesome for utility but no one ever uses them

[steep radish]

I do

[wicked garnet]

i use smoke alot

[steep radish]

And the smokes are actually pretty useful

[wicked garnet]

smokes are usefull when you review

[deep harbor]

Medic is deadly to push with smokes, if you know how to use them properly

[wicked garnet]

revieve

[icy sluice]

@deep harbor laughs in quadrupole kill

[steep radish]

I mean

I guess

[solid hinge]

smokes are great but it doesn't change you're gimped as soon as there's open space

[steep radish]

I only use them for revives in open fire

[solid hinge]

if you smoke enemy cover they can't hit you

makes it a lot easier to move up

[steep radish]

P much

[unique thunder]

Someone mind telling me when the current weekly challenges finish? Is it tomorrow?

[west plinth]

Well, don't play around open spaces that much then. You won't find a recon complaining that he looses in close quarters or a support using a shotgun complaining about getting shot when standing in the middle of a field

[steep radish]

@west plinth Thats the entire game

If I want to move around in the maps moving from objective to objective I cant just avoid them

[deep harbor]

Of course, 1 medic never won a game (or did he), but then if there was any semblance of team play, medics can be devastating. All said, I do feel medics in BFV need a very slight buff

[solid hinge]

there are entire capture points that are too large to use smgs effectively in

[steep radish]

Exactly

[west plinth]

There's also capture points which are rather close quarters 🤷

[undone cave]

Yea but there's also ones where it's great

[solid hinge]

there are assault rifles and lmgs that can use 3x scopes with effectiveness and then still win against smgs at close quarters

thats my problem

[strong parrot]

jesus christ the recoil on the thompson is brutal

[steep radish]

@west plinth That doesnt balance out that most capture points are big

[solid hinge]

the best two smgs have fucking brutal recoil

[steep radish]

If there are big capture points small ones dont balance out the big

[west plinth]

@steep radish Didn't say it did, did I? Just goes to show that you can play around your strengths if you want to.

[deep harbor]

which are the best 2 smgs, in your opinion?

[steep radish]

I mean

[solid hinge]

suomi and tommy

[undone cave]

laughs in burst firing the sten

[deep harbor]

i suck with suomi, especially if i have to ads

[solid hinge]

three taps you with a semi auto

[steep radish]

I guess

[west plinth]

ADSing with suomi? Wat

[steep radish]

I just think its dumb

Ive also experienced glitches and stuff

[little fjord]

The hip-fire is excellent on the smgs

🤷

[deep harbor]

Yeah, I mean you spot someone in about 70m range and you wanna kill the guy, which is kinda really difficult...

[west plinth]

Is that like the reverse of noscope-montages? 360-ADS-suomi-doublefrag?

[steep radish]

where it would constantly happen and this is on the few hours Ive played on BGV

*BFV

[simple marlin]

what's the point of playing recon if there's assault?

new ttk at least fixed this, now we're back to assault bullshit dominating everything

[west plinth]

What's the point of playing infantry when there's a StuKa?

[deep harbor]

Recon has M95 and Kar98K :p

[little fjord]

You can tapfire for ranged kills but it takes so many bullets unlikely to get a kill with smg at range... but I think the Thompson or the 28 did ok pushing range

[simple marlin]

do you have a seizure tollwut ?

[steep radish]

I dont enjoy it as other games Ive played because there really isn’t any weapons that pull me into the game or stuff that help me keep interested in the game, other than lack luster cosmetics, albeit while some look good

[west plinth]

Nah, just bored

[simple marlin]

are you aware that a semi with x3 is much more efficient than any sniper rifle (glint??????)

[steep radish]

WW2 and BF games to add in

[solid hinge]

there's a big problem with lack of gadgets at the moment

[west plinth]

Are you aware that sniper rifles oneshot and semis don't?

[steep radish]

@west plinth they arent

[deep harbor]

Not unless you are good at landing headshots mate

[solid hinge]

every assault is using 3x scopes with piat and dynamite

[simple marlin]

do you understand how hard it is

[steep radish]

Unless you’re actually good with headshits

*headshots

[simple marlin]

you can 3 tap with high rof as assault

[little fjord]

I use 2x

[solid hinge]

semis two shot with a headshot and they can do it almost as fast as a sniper

[simple marlin]

it takes less time to aim for headshot

[steep radish]

Its impossible to instakill with a sniper

[little fjord]

But yeah assault semis are deadly

[west plinth]

If you're not good at hitting headshots you shouldn't expect to perform well on recon. /opinion

[simple marlin]

bring back "new" ttk and assault is going to be balanced

[solid hinge]

id have an easier time if the hitboxes weren't fuckin janky when you prone

[steep radish]

“If you’re not good with hitting headshots” its a fucking sniper i shouldnt need to kerk off 24/7 to get perfect headshots

[simple marlin]

but i guess, ppl prefer camping and x3 assault meta idk

[little fjord]

Assault selb can theoretically kill almost 10 enemies.... with body shots

Without reloading

[steep radish]

It should be a one shot like every other fucking WW2 game has so far

[solid hinge]

one shot snipers would be broken

[steep radish]

It shouldnt be stuck specifically to headshots

[simple marlin]

gewehr 1-5 got high rof and 3hits

[deep harbor]

I mean there is a pretty good learning curve to most guns in BFV, let alone Recon class, but it's not that difficult to master.... There are times when you can land headshots by flicking on a far away target who is running... Feels epic maaahnn

[steep radish]

@solid hinge how

Its worked in every other game

[solid hinge]

it's really easy to land body shots

[steep radish]

True

[west plinth]

"every other game", suuuure

[solid hinge]

even if you made the rof like, 20, it would still be too good

[steep radish]

but then again its already broken as it is because you could never kill someone with a body shot even

Ive never once

[solid hinge]

just hit them twice

[simple marlin]

check call of duty modern warfare 2 and you'll understand why 1 hit snipers are bad for the game

[steep radish]

seem someone kill with a body shot

[little fjord]

Headshots in bfv are 10x easier than bf4

[solid hinge]

snipers aren't good at moving targets

[west plinth]

@solid hinge I mean, with a ROF of 20 it would be pretty much the railgun from BF4 without charge, which was still insanely strong

[solid hinge]

aim for slow people or campers

[steep radish]

@simple marlin Snipers in Modern Warfare 2 are balance because you can only shoot them once

[west plinth]

wat

[steep radish]

Let me explain this better

[solid hinge]

@west plinth yeah it'd have to be even lower

[steep radish]

In MW2

The amount of stuff that could lean in your favor against snipers was alot

[solid hinge]

cod isn't battlefield

[steep radish]

@solid hinge wasnt my point

[little fjord]

Self loading sniper rifles don't one-shot headshot right?

[solid hinge]

nope

[steep radish]

it was @simple marlin

[solid hinge]

self loading rifles get a two shot kill wherever you hit them but it's always two shots

[little fjord]

Still not hard to get the doubletap

[deep harbor]

Anybody got any idea as to what the second chapter in Tides of War gonna be? Kinda excited for all the stuff

[steep radish]

Still isnt broken either way

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge yes but its 2 shot headshot

[simple marlin]

Any good intervention player was simply better than any other weapon good player cuz it was too easy to 1 tap anything

[west plinth]

@deep harbor Gonna be greece, I think?

[simple marlin]

so yes, you dont wanna it even in bf

[dark ferry]

Need some help, game gets stuck in loading after the previous game ends on PC.

[solid hinge]

it's also two shot leg shot @solid hinge

[steep radish]

WHEEZE

[dark ferry]

Any help?

[solid hinge]

@dark ferry close and reopen

common bug

[deep harbor]

Amazing.... I personally want Somme

[dark ferry]

Its happened 3 times so far

[little fjord]

It must be 2 bodyshot for sniper self loading vs 1 head 1 body for assault semis

[dark ferry]

back to back

[little fjord]

If I'm not mistaken

[solid hinge]

get used to it happening even more

this game sucks ass with the bugs

[dark ferry]

But my teammates are already ingame

[steep radish]

so an assault rifle does more damage than a sniper?

[solid hinge]

fucking early access shit

[dark ferry]

Early access its been out for a month or so

[solid hinge]

it's been out but it certainly ain't in a finished condition

[steep radish]

thats du b

*dumb

[dark ferry]

ffs

[deep harbor]

The only major bugs too irritating for me right now are the assignments getting glitched out and not tracking and when I try and quit after a map is over, I'm stuck on a very long exit screen...

[solid hinge]

the semi-autos are currently held to be better than the snipers because their recoil is minimal

[simple marlin]

sniper rifles got less damage potential than the semis of assaults

[steep radish]

what

[solid hinge]

snipers do higher damage though

[simple marlin]

you're not going to do a doublekill quickly with a sniper rifle

[steep radish]

What the fuck is even the point of using one then if a semi auto can have faster fire rate and can be just as accurate

[solid hinge]

thats what a lot of people are asking

Technically you have the fastest kill potential in the game with a headshot

So there's that

[icy sluice]

Semis cannot one shot that much

[little fjord]

Should be 1 more shot for kill with semi vs self loading in most cases

[simple marlin]

with new ttk they were fine cuz they couldnt 3tap at long range and needed 4

[solid hinge]

And recon gets different tools

[steep radish]

Except

[solid hinge]

The new ttk broke half the slrs as well

Model 8 was a fucking three shot

[steep radish]

the ttk was a far cry from what the players wanted

[little fjord]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Three shot kill on a rof 180 with a 5 mag

[steep radish]

And was shit because apparently it felt like “COD”

[deep harbor]

@simple marlin I believe any decent sniper would doublekill in a span of 3 seconds, especially if there's a considerable amount of distance between the players

[simple marlin]

but do you understand how easier it is to do with a semi?

[steep radish]

Hell any sniper should at least higher damage than a semi auto

[solid hinge]

their damage is higher

the semi-auto is just faster

[steep radish]

@solid hinge doesnt explain why the semi is better

[deep harbor]

It is easier, I'm not denying it, but you should also look at it from another perspective

[solid hinge]

semi-autos are faster, less recoil and higher mag size

[steep radish]

I look at it this way

[simple marlin]

i mean, those weapons would be decent if there was the bf1 sweet spot system

[deep harbor]

You wont find a Kar98k or M95 rushing around in objective

[solid hinge]

i rush objective with m95 sometimes

[deep harbor]

I do believe they have their sweet spot right now

[solid hinge]

it's very good for corner peeking

[simple marlin]

also, why there's glint on x3 of recon

zzz

[deep harbor]

xD

[solid hinge]

yeaaah that's horseshit

if 3x has glint then every 3x should have glint

[simple marlin]

either give glint for every x3 of the game or remove it from recon

[solid hinge]

i frequently get killed by 3x assaults with semi autos who I thought were snipers

[deep harbor]

I wish they had multiple scopes instead of just the golden iron sight for recon weapons mastery

[solid hinge]

they really deserve a glint

[steep radish]

Semi autos, apparently, have high damage, are decent at accuracy, and have larger mags for sustained fire. Meanwhile while a sniper DOES have higher damage, you would need to shoot the guy twice because it doesnt do that much damage to kill him, and because the sniper is slower to fire then

Whats the point then

Snipers are even more accurate but what the fuck is the point if it doesnt do that much damage

[west plinth]

Once again, hit headshots and you're golden. It is definitly harder to play recon well than assault, but that doesn't mean that all snipers are shite.

[steep radish]

Why

Play

for

headshots

only

[solid hinge]

because you're a sniper

[west plinth]

Because skill

[steep radish]

What

[solid hinge]

bolt action rifles kill in one shot to the head

nothing else does

[simple marlin]

there's no point to play something that is worse in almost every aspects except the very long range aspect and bfV maps arent really favouring the long range

[deep harbor]

Because you get the broken skull

[solid hinge]

it's not just about the weapon they have

it's the kit

[west plinth]

^

[solid hinge]

when you play recon you aren't just playing sniper

you're the only class that can spot properly

[steep radish]

But then

You still havent answered

[deep harbor]

@solid hinge true

[west plinth]

Same as medic. While the SMGs loose in several situations, healing makes you still a damn viable and IMPORTANT class

[steep radish]

The point of using a sniper if semis do better

[solid hinge]

because snipers do a one shot headshot and nothing else does

[west plinth]

Because 1-shot-kill at insane ranges

[steep radish]

But

[deep harbor]

You can always quickscope one shot headshot with bolt actions

That's a feeling to have

[solid hinge]

the aiming is very forgiving on the snipers

[steep radish]

...

So pretty much the solution to this sniper problem is only hit headshots

[solid hinge]

you can walk out of cover while scoped and shoot while moving and it'll hit your exact target

i mean.. that is the point of snipers

[steep radish]

Except

It isnt

[solid hinge]

the sniper combat role spots whoever you shoot

[west plinth]

Except there isn't a problem?

[solid hinge]

So there's that too

[steep radish]

The point of sniper rifles is to cover from extremely long ranges

It isnt meant to just hit headshots its meant to kill people in long ranges

[solid hinge]

and it does that

[steep radish]

The actual fact that they’re too weak to even kill someone in a body range despite it being major during WW2

[deep harbor]

If you are playing as a sniper in very long ranges, what really is the problem? You can definitely kill people from very long ranges

[steep radish]

Is absurd and doesnt make sense

@deep harbor And I can

[solid hinge]

if you wanted realism every single headshot would be an instant kill or disable

[steep radish]

But this Battlefield doesnt really favor long ranges unless you’re very far away

[west plinth]

"Doesn't make sense" - welcome to the magical world of gaming where the rules are made up and the points dont matter

[strong parrot]

lmao...gotta love pissing people off

[steep radish]

@solid hinge I dont want realism, I want the game to actually make sense

[solid hinge]

well.. body shot kills with snipers won't make sense

[strong parrot]

dude says is this your first ever 'decent game' im like 34-15 is crap..im using a lvl 2 thompson

[solid hinge]

you'd be overpowered

[west plinth]

@solid hinge If you want realism then stray shrapnel will put you down for several months while you recover in a field hospital 🤷

[steep radish]

And if you cant kill with an upper body to the chest, which a sniper rifle can do

then its just dumb

[solid hinge]

jumps over a tank shell and actually dies

[strong parrot]

"KD doesnt matter score does" meanwhile im 2nd on the team squadmates in front of me..i only have 15.5k score

[deep harbor]

Nah man you can't simply generalize like that.... There have been times when I have been better at close range with a M95 than with a Ribeyrolles

[west plinth]

"which a sniper rifle can do" well that's a damn poor argument, you relize that?

[solid hinge]

maybe if they added like... organs

[steep radish]

Just like hitting only headshots

[solid hinge]

get shot in the heart and die

[steep radish]

Because snipers can do more than that

[deep harbor]

At the end of the day, I feel it comes down to what sort of a play style you adopt... How you really wanna play

[solid hinge]

apart from that would apply to every gun

[west plinth]

Skill based shooter 🤷 git gud or get off sniper :p

[solid hinge]

if you could get a sniper kill to the body they'd be broken dude

no one would pick anything else

it's not hard to get a body shot

[steep radish]

but

can snipers kill

[west plinth]

yes

[steep radish]

upper body to the head

[west plinth]

no

[steep radish]

or at least chest level

[solid hinge]

if you hit them twice

you can shoot someone in the foot twice and they'll die

[steep radish]

Im gonna play sniper for a bit

see what happens

[deep harbor]

Or what they could do is, for long to very long ranges, they could increase the damage drop off value to body shots, and maybe make it a one shot body kill for close quarters?

[simple marlin]

chest level etc was in bf1

[steep radish]

“Only hit headshots” pfft alright

[solid hinge]

keep in mind you're a support as well

[simple marlin]

its called sweet spots

[solid hinge]

the class isn't sniper

it's recon

[west plinth]

The sweet spots was the single worst mechanic in BF1, ew.

[solid hinge]

you spot targets for your teammates and try to eliminate important targets

you're the only class with a spawn beacon

like

that alone is significant

[west plinth]

Spawning bacon is the best!

[deep harbor]

And the spotting scope

Let's not forget the spotting scope is the only way to spot people anymore

Other than landing a few shots at peeps

[solid hinge]

set up shop at a perpendicular spot to a point with a spawn beacon and the spotting scope and you can provide invaluable team assistance

[west plinth]

@deep harbor Machinegunner support would like to have a word with you

[solid hinge]

machinegunner support is lame

[west plinth]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

[solid hinge]

suppressing someone already makes a red mark on them

[west plinth]

But supressing them more makes a redder mark!

[deep harbor]

Maschinegunner can't spot, you only 'track' people who are tagged

[solid hinge]

the machinegunner combat role can spot

[west plinth]

It spots once you fully supress enemies

Which is rather easy with the MG42

[deep harbor]

Oh is that?

I haven't played much as support yert

yet*

Definitely prefer playing more of medic assault and support

[west plinth]

Support is the best

[solid hinge]

the engineer role is more useful than the machinegunner role

[west plinth]

Started loving the new shotty with slugs too

Well, that really depends on the map and how you wanna play

[deep harbor]

Drilling is an apt name.

[dim gazelle]

are u willing to take the drilling

[west plinth]

@deep harbor because it has 3 barrels?

[deep harbor]

Nah, cuz it can drill snipers with one shot upto 175m - ish?? approx

Headshot

[sleek tartan]

Guys, basically had a small argument not long ago with a guy regarding AA tanks. He wanted them to be unable to aim to the ground, so that they literally are defenseless vs infantry.
Do you like the idea?
I personally think that while they are strong vs infantry I would totally not support doing that... It's also very fragile vs panzer and other tanks. Would make it useless for me. Better be on a stationary AA

[west plinth]

That's only because snipers are terrible and should oneshot-bodyshot

@sleek tartan Super fragile, so you can easily solo them, so I think they are fine. Takes one well places bomb from a plane as well, so meh. Leave em

[snow sleet]

Boys, what support-guns are considered the best atm? 😃

[deep harbor]

When I'm shooting a sniper with a drilling, I'm going for a headshot, especially with iron sights. Why can't a sniper do the same, mind you, with better scopes?

[west plinth]

@deep harbor Because reasons

[deep harbor]

Nah man

Come on

I bet most of want to get better as a player in the game and landing headshots is one of the major things to learn

[sleek tartan]

Rate of fire of the driller sniper is so damn slow tho

Better get that first shot

[west plinth]

@solid hinge Nah, there was one guy claiming that having to hit headshots was shite

[sleek tartan]

Obviously seem pro snipers would miss sweetspot...

[west plinth]

@sleek tartan M1897 got your back there 😉

[deep harbor]

We were suggesting you should be good at getting headshots

[steep radish]

Welp

[deep harbor]

Recon = ez headshots (IMO)

[steep radish]

I might as well stick with other classes

[sleek tartan]

I think the min damage is quite low, but sweetspot was horrible

[deep harbor]

@steep radish or you could put in more time and practice and master it :p

[steep radish]

@deep harbor nah

It would be a waste of time and the two shot kill feels like a fucking handicap

[west plinth]

(git gud)

[steep radish]

(I dont have an argument)

[west plinth]

(🆗 🆒 )

[steep radish]

Seriously

[deep harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-HjsMZr5dI

Is this really the official soundtrack for BFV?

[steep radish]

Snipers feel fucking worthless in a game filled with automatics and I feel as if semi autos do the job better more

[deep harbor]

Coz I can't find any official soundtrack, only keep getting the legacy soundtrack

[west plinth]

@deep harbor Don't think so. The offical one is on spotify.

[zealous void]

No its not really @deep harbor

The legacy theme is the main theme

[steep radish]

If it was one shot it would help balance this out but in order for me to survive I would need to pull out a pistol

[deep harbor]

But isn't legacy one a mix of the older BF themes?

[steep radish]

@solid hinge P much

I can agree but they’re so WEAK

[zealous void]

that video is just audio taken from the multiplayer trailer, and @deep harbor its a new song, its just following the same theme as other battlefields, that's what a franchise does

[steep radish]

you can only insta kill with a headshot

[west plinth]

@deep harbor Legacy in the sense as it is the classic theme, but newly made for BF:V

[steep radish]

Why is it that in other BF games it was a one shot or a headshot that instakilled them

[sleek tartan]

The difference is that in bfv headshot have been deliberately made easier to do

[steep radish]

but here we cant

[sleek tartan]

And those automatic weapons have very low min damage

[steep radish]

*body sho

[deep harbor]

Yeah I get it @zealous void @west plinth but I do hear exact elements from the older themes

[steep radish]

@sleek tartan true

[deep harbor]

Maybe I'm just going bonkers

[west plinth]

"In that other BF games", you mean literally only in BF1?

[zealous void]

No you don't

It's just similar note structure and instruments

[steep radish]

@west plinth Have you never played BF4?

[zealous void]

i get what you mean tho 😃

[steep radish]

In that game it was possible to kill with a body shot

It wasnt just in BF1 hell even bad company 2 had this shit

[sleek tartan]

Only on extreme close range and there was a perk for that

So you wouldn't be one shot

[deep harbor]

Fuck, the legacy theme is so insane though... Goosebumps goosebumps

[steep radish]

I mean I guess

But still it was possible to have a one shot kill with a body shot

[zealous void]

it really is awesome 😄

[sleek tartan]

Yeah many people don't know that

[steep radish]

I personally like it

And Im used to it

[west plinth]

You COULD, but everyone ran the defensive perk, so you never really had those 1-shots.

[sleek tartan]

I think that made more sense than the medium range sweetspot

But they could be very broken too

Basically a shotgun on short range

[deep harbor]

@steep radish change can be a good thing, let's just wait out till Firestorm comes

[steep radish]

@west plinth Difference between could and completely cant

[deep harbor]

They sure have a lot of changes to do

[steep radish]

I hope

Or I could just be patient

and wait for vietnam

hehe napalms

[deep harbor]

AS in BF6 Vietnam? o.O

[steep radish]

Of course

It should be finished

[deep harbor]

Yeah lol, isn't it too early to be discussing BF6? They really need to work alot on BFV as of now

[steep radish]

but COUGH COUGH live service

[opaque hinge]

live service

[steep radish]

I mean I guess its a bit early

[opaque hinge]

what a fucking joke

[soft storm]

LIVE SERVICE MODEL BTW

[opaque hinge]

1 patch every 2 months

[deep harbor]

HAHAHAHHA

[opaque hinge]

is not live service

[steep radish]

But live service is an excuse to just be lazy and not deliver content

[soft storm]

HEY GUYS I THINK SIEGE CAN DO IT FINE

[sleek tartan]

Lol already finished... You feel like bfv is finished?

[zealous void]

yes it is tho

[opaque hinge]

fucking COD

[soft storm]

MAYBE AN ARCADE SHOOTER CAN TOO

[zealous void]

r6s has one every three months

[steep radish]

It isnt tho

[opaque hinge]

which is not "live service"

[zealous void]

yes it is lol

[opaque hinge]

releases patches much more often

COD has released like 10 patches

[zealous void]

so does BF

[opaque hinge]

bfv has done 1

🤷

[zealous void]

do we need 10 patches?

no

[opaque hinge]

uh

[zealous void]

naw(

[opaque hinge]

yes

[steep radish]

YES

[opaque hinge]

lots of fucking bugs rn

jesus

[zealous void]

no we just need them to fix it in one go

[steep radish]

DO YOU WANT THE GAME FIXED.

[zealous void]

which CoD cant do i guess

[west plinth]

We had more than 1 patch, mate^^

[zealous void]

YES BUT WHY TEN NOT TWO

[opaque hinge]

at least they're patching things

dude

[zealous void]

naw

[soft storm]

SMH 1 map every 2-3 months for a bf or cod game is dumb

[steep radish]

To be completely honest

[opaque hinge]

cause lets say there's 10 issues to be fixed

[sleek tartan]

Wow chat exploded

[opaque hinge]

i dont want to wait 6 months for 1 patch to fix em all

[zealous void]

eh im not gonna stay in this chat bye

[opaque hinge]

id rather have 10 patches fixing them as they're fixed

🤷

[soft storm]

Im hooing to god its not gonna be like that but its probably going to be

[steep radish]

Ive had a better experience with COD rather than BF this year

[opaque hinge]

im not waiting till fucking June 2019 to have a playable game

okay sorry

it is

but get rid of the fucking retarded bugs

[deep harbor]

I'd rather prefer one update every 2/3 months fixing multiple issues than having a patch for every issue

[soft storm]

like extremely playable

[opaque hinge]

well

[steep radish]

@solid hinge Just because a game is playable doesnt make it good

[opaque hinge]

id rather not wait 3 months

[west plinth]

BF:V is significantly less broken than BF3 and BF4 were at launch^^

[opaque hinge]

to fix bugs

[soft storm]

Its just kinda scuffed

[opaque hinge]

what about we fix bugs as they're fixed internally

[steep radish]

WHEEZE COUGH COUGH COUGH WHEEE

[opaque hinge]

like normal games do..

[steep radish]

Alright

[opaque hinge]

well

i guess that's why its in alpha

"live service" to get outta early access

[steep radish]

With EA its never in the game

[opaque hinge]

alpha 2 drops in January

[steep radish]

its in multiple DLC’s

[opaque hinge]

Beta is coming out in March with br

full game release for June 2019

[steep radish]

I think Ill skip with BF this year

[opaque hinge]

its a decent alpha

[steep radish]

I mean I guess

[sleek tartan]

Tonight the dark is very much leaning to the dark side of the force

[opaque hinge]

early access is the new thing

releasing finished games?

[sleek tartan]

This lack of Fandom for dice disturbs me. Lol

[opaque hinge]

more like cause everyone is tired of early access games

[steep radish]

It a disappointing alpha with lackluster content, fixes, etc

[opaque hinge]

EA = early access

[steep radish]

And the worse part is

[opaque hinge]

they're an early access company

[steep radish]

This game is based off of WW2

Which means they could have done a shit ton

[opaque hinge]

but they didn't

cause they dumb

[sleek tartan]

@opaque hinge you have a duty as judge you shouldn't be pushing social convulsions

[opaque hinge]

lol

[steep radish]

To be honest

I bought WaW

[opaque hinge]

well

[steep radish]

For five bucks

[opaque hinge]

waw was actually fun

no sjw shit back then

no censorship

[steep radish]

Fucking tell me how that game released in 2008 is better than a game in 2018

[sleek tartan]

Sometimes you gotta let it out eh

[opaque hinge]

u could actually use

a nazi flag

in waw

[steep radish]

You fucking pinned the russian flag on berlin

[opaque hinge]

you could actually say "nazi"

yup

[deep harbor]

It's just been a month since the launch, give it time, they'll bring in more shit.... After all, it is early access xD

[opaque hinge]

can't do that anymore

[steep radish]

There were actually characters that I loved in the game

[opaque hinge]

history never happened guys

germans weren't nazis

they were just germans

🤷

[steep radish]

The set pieces were great for gameplay and narrative purposed

[opaque hinge]

yup

[steep radish]

I could Actually fucking shoot someone once with a sniper and they die

None of this dumbass balance shit

[sleek tartan]

[steep radish]

BFV isnt a bad game

[west plinth]

There's a reason for that, mate. WaW has HEAVILY censored in germany etc, so with BF:v they didn't want to bother with that, so they kept it general.

[steep radish]

its a disappointing game

[sleek tartan]

@steep radish you can't make a game that everyone likes

[steep radish]

@west plinth WHEEZE

[opaque hinge]

no

nazi symbols are legal in germany.

now

[steep radish]

And its regarded in cod as one of the best fucking games in the series

[opaque hinge]

in video games at least

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45142651

thats from August

[steep radish]

BFV does worse than Hardline because they couldnt even sell enough copies

And other fuck ton of reasons

[deep harbor]

COD :WaW was a fucking masterpiece, but let's not compare Battlefield and COD

[opaque hinge]

its sad that cod did it better

🤷

[steep radish]

@deep harbor They’re both WW2 so why shouldnt we?

[opaque hinge]

although cod ww2 was trash

[steep radish]

Fucking garbage that game lol @opaque hinge

[west plinth]

In August most of the models etc for BF:v were probs already done, so why go back and waste time on that?`Also, it's still a topic of debate.

[opaque hinge]

yup

[steep radish]

truly dissapointing the only good WW2 games we get these days are from indie devs at this point

[opaque hinge]

well its called old games put in nazi symbols

[deep harbor]

You shouldn't because it is like comparing two different species of mammals living in the same land

[opaque hinge]

and now new ones don't

also the giant sjw agenda

for bfv

it fits right in

also last tiger didnt even come out till Dec

[deep harbor]

Games are never gonna be identical to other games otherwise they will never sell

[opaque hinge]

so the mission wasn't near done

[steep radish]

Still should be compared because of the context both games are in

[opaque hinge]

yeah

[steep radish]

They will never be identical

[opaque hinge]

js that WaW was more immersive

[steep radish]

But when its fucking

[opaque hinge]

more gritty

[steep radish]

World War 2

[deep harbor]

Also, there's this RTX horseshit BF has thrown in the mix this time

[opaque hinge]

not goddam cartoony

[west plinth]

Mission not realeased doesn't mean the same as assets not finished.

[opaque hinge]

i really don't think it'd be that hard

to change a shape

🤷

[steep radish]

@west plinth I want good missions that are memorable not an hour long mission where the characters are forgettable

[deep harbor]

But kudos to the fucking Frostbite engine

[steep radish]

Y’know

Lets compare the missions from WaW to BFV

@opaque hinge remember fucking vendetta?

[deep harbor]

Now that the comparisons have started, I'm outta here bois 😂

[steep radish]

Pick that game against any other and I would still choose that mission over any of the long “war stories” in BFV

[west plinth]

Eh, Last Tiger was pretty damn good.

[steep radish]

That

Was a good story

The best story imo

[deep harbor]

Have'nt played Last Tigre yet

[steep radish]

@deep harbor you need too

[deep harbor]

Is it compelling?

[steep radish]

Its the best war story imo

[west plinth]

@deep harbor Go for it, deffo worth it. Gameplay is alright, you're a tank. But the story and how it's presented is super good

[deep harbor]

Nordlys was a fucking joke

[west plinth]

Nordlys I found fun to play at least^^

[steep radish]

Still a shit story

[deep harbor]

They made a joke out of the Norwegian resistance

[steep radish]

And the fact it was revisioned is a fucking joke