#battlefield-legacy-titles

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midnight nimbus
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most ridiculously overrated gun in BFV

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like if you can hit a headshot, just use literally anything else

regal sapphire
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It's not like headshots with the other Semi autos are any useful

midnight nimbus
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bc you can HS+BS

regal sapphire
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1 headshot and 1 body shot = 99 damage

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fun

jovial forge
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Shoulda been a Recon weapon

regal sapphire
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Medic

midnight nimbus
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iirc Turner can HS+BS to 25m

jovial forge
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M1 carbine plus Pathfinder wod of made a good aggressive conbo

midnight nimbus
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M1 can't do it at all

jovial forge
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Or turner smle

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Fill that 1903 experimental spot

midnight nimbus
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0 hrec on BFV semis is one of the most questionable things about this game

sleek thunder
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i love getting less fps on small maps than on big maps

regal sapphire
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The Selbstlader 100 can't

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Or the damage on it is just bugged

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The amount of times I've got 99 damage with a body shot and a headshot are infuriating

sullen tartan
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So whats up with the new 2x scope of the 1906

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does it have scope glint

regal sapphire
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Also fuck shotguns

jovial forge
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Bias

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Shotguns are love

regal sapphire
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You're a shit player then

sleek thunder
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no u

jovial forge
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Using a weapon doesnt make me one. Playing badly will do that

regal sapphire
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Haha I 3 shot people having no aim at all

sleek thunder
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you sound salty

regal sapphire
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One shot even sometimes

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Nah I'm doing fine

jovial forge
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Well shotguns are the kings of cqb

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Sacrifices range for ohk close range potential

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Do you want them to act like their real life counter part that can reach out further?

regal sapphire
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The Drilling can one shot you from ridiculous range

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Without the rifle barrel

jovial forge
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Drilling had a single fire slug that you have to be on point or your dead

sleek thunder
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but if you miss your shot your dead

regal sapphire
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Not really

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You have another barerel

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Barrel*

sleek thunder
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unless your enemy is garbage

jovial forge
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The drilling has 3 barrels

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2 for buckshot, 1 for slug

regal sapphire
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I know

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Not slug

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Rifle round

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13.7mm

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Iirc

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Still skilless bs guns

jovial forge
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Takes some skill to close that gap and kill you depend on the map

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Open maps for maximum salt

regal sapphire
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Skill
shotguns

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Pick one

sleek thunder
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with shotguns you need to close the gap, and you have to hit your first shot 99% of the time

compact oxide
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Slug shotguns take aim tbh

regal sapphire
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Slug ye

sleek thunder
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if you miss the first shot against anyone good, you lose

regal sapphire
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But not buckshot

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Nah

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You don't

compact oxide
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I tried the slugs on the 12g and it did 30 body damage at non point blank range sadcat

sleek thunder
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12g is just shit all around

jovial forge
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12g does better then bf1 12g but still wackLUL

stray isle
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the dmg vehicles with assualt kit bugged?

compact oxide
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Tbh I preferred the 12g in bf1

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That thing was a spammer

jovial forge
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12g extended was a salt inducer

opaque cipher
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Yeah 12g extended in BF1

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It’s like pre nerf 10A hunter

jovial forge
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It was the only decent one out of its variants

opaque cipher
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You just stick it down a hallway and read the damage numbers

jovial forge
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Damage numbers for days

regal sapphire
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DICE ruined BF5 now with the M1897

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It's just frustrating to play now

jovial forge
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No they didnt

regal sapphire
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Yes they did

solid hinge
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?

regal sapphire
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Everyone's just running with it

little fjord
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Despair

stray isle
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one gun ruin a whole game???

viscid cypress
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It's not even as good as the M30

jovial forge
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Out of all the shit that goes on a shotgun ruins your day?

little fjord
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Save the children

jovial forge
regal sapphire
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No aim required
One shots you all the time
8 rounds
Relatively fast RPM

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#Balance

solid hinge
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my fellow console peasants dont even use it

jovial forge
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I use itmad

solid hinge
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not 1 death

jovial forge
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I love it

viscid cypress
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He clearly hasn't

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Since it has 5 rounds

lime stirrup
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and you want higher vis, so the shotgun guy can kill you even easier

little fjord
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I don't use shotguns much

lime stirrup
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k.

viscid cypress
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And 120 RPM

jovial forge
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There is no m1897 that takes 8 rounds wtf

sleek thunder
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seems like you just hate shotguns

little fjord
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It's just running around killing people who don't use headphones

regal sapphire
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Because they're skilless pieces of garbo yeah

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Well it's not like footsteps work..

viscid cypress
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He hates everything that kills him, I've played with him.

dusky saffron
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they work for me

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:>

regal sapphire
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Korey is just salty I said I preferred the new TTK

little fjord
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Watch you flanks and don't get close... then you kill all the shotties

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🤷

jovial forge
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So anything that can kill him is skilled and bad?

regal sapphire
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Nah

sleek thunder
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seems like he just lets them close the gap and kill him

regal sapphire
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Snipers are fair, semis are fair

viscid cypress
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You were the one that was salty about finding out I didn't consider you a friend

regal sapphire
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MMGs are retarded

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Salty? I was sad

lime stirrup
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what is wrong with mmgs

viscid cypress
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Tears are salty

regal sapphire
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Because I considered you a friend

little fjord
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I'm pretty sure all the weapons are pretty deadly

dusky saffron
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^

stray isle
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^

sleek thunder
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shotguns are the only guns that kill

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duh

regal sapphire
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Most guns can't one shot

jovial forge
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So there should be nothing close range oriented besides smgs?thonk

regal sapphire
little fjord
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Cept maybe smgs.... but Thompson is pretty good

solid hinge
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@regal sapphire can i ask a question

regal sapphire
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Thompson is trash dude, MP34 is where its at

dusky saffron
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some guns are only usable in short range

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:>

little fjord
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I like them both

jovial forge
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I clearly remember shotguns being used in ww1 and ww2. Germans and its allies hated it

regal sapphire
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Doesn't mean they need to be unbalanced /shrug

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Might aswell have everything one shot you if we're going for realism

jovial forge
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So you want shotguns to be ineffective at everything thonk

little fjord
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Getting 1-shot by shotguns has been in battlefield games for like 15 years

dusky saffron
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letting shotguns get close to you

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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:>

regal sapphire
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Playing the fucking objective

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

little fjord
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If you hate it just start using shotguns

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😆

regal sapphire
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No fuck off

dusky saffron
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can't do both

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l m a o

regal sapphire
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I'm not being a trash player, I don't use cheap shit

little fjord
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It's all cheap shit

jovial forge
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Ironically only the trashy players hate on petty things though

regal sapphire
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No it's not

dusky saffron
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:>

little fjord
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Everything has a counter

regal sapphire
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Trashy players

dusky saffron
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@jovial forge fact

regal sapphire
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Have 2.5kd on assault with the Selbstlader

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Right

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I'm the shit player

dusky saffron
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2.4 with the sten

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yes

viscid cypress
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Shotguns are extremely short range.

solid hinge
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🍊

regal sapphire
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Sure they are lmao

sleek thunder
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they are

viscid cypress
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Okay, well unlike you I've actually used a shotgun and have video evidence.

regal sapphire
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They can 2 shot you across a long corridor

little fjord
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They are fun once in awhile... running up on people like "surprise mutherfkr!"

regal sapphire
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You want me to record all my gameplay now? Stop being petty

little fjord
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Boom

sleek thunder
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shotguns are pretty damn close range

viscid cypress
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"Stop bringing evidence to my rant REEEEEEEEEEE"

jovial forge
regal sapphire
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"Demanding evidence that I'd have to record all my gameplay for REEEEEEEEE"

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I can't record anything

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My computer ain't that good

viscid cypress
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I didn't demand evidence

little fjord
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I demand evidence

viscid cypress
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I said I already had the evidence

regal sapphire
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Go ahead

sleek thunder
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i demand salt

regal sapphire
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Show it

viscid cypress
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I'm uploading it right now

regal sapphire
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Actually, I may be able to record

dusky saffron
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he's gonna dance on you

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when he shows it

regal sapphire
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Default dancing

dusky saffron
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if it's not that

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you're bad

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:^)

sleek thunder
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talking like its 4chan

regal sapphire
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Yeah, you are

viscid cypress
sleek thunder
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wow shotguns are so far range OMG so OP

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did you see that, a whole 75 damage in 5 shots

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insane

regal sapphire
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It's not like Shotguns have luck tied to it more than other guns

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Pellet spread dude

sleek thunder
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or theyre just bad at range

viscid cypress
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Oh, it's almost like pellet spread increases over RANGE

regal sapphire
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I'm just using it rin

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rn

little fjord
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Was it bfbc2 where people were one shotting eachother with slugs across the map?

regal sapphire
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I just did 95 damage with someone across a field

sleek thunder
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then give a clip at that range where you kill the guy in like 3 or less shots

viscid cypress
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No, you didn't

regal sapphire
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Yes I did

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I'm playing on Twisted steel

jovial forge
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@little fjord yes

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But it's been years

dusky saffron
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l u c k

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in

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that range

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oof just stop pls

little fjord
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Yeah... the only thing since that compared was flechette on hardcore bf4

jovial forge
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You could do it in BF3/4 but there is bullet drop so its pure luck

viscid cypress
sleek thunder
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just show a clip at the range of the clip korimakurin posted where you kill the dude in 3 or less shots

viscid cypress
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Here is a clip that's almost half the range of the last one

sleek thunder
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i mean the first clip not the one he just posted

viscid cypress
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And I'm going to be completely honest, I like this gun

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But, it's got poor range

regal sapphire
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#noob

sleek thunder
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lmao

jovial forge
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M97 had always been a solid shotgun

viscid cypress
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I went 32-15 on Hamada with a shotgun, I'm so bad at this game.

regal sapphire
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That's pretty shit tbh

sleek thunder
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aims right at the chest each shot "noob"

jovial forge
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That's a good game tbh

regal sapphire
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Aims

jovial forge
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Shotgun on an open map

regal sapphire
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It's really not

jovial forge
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Legit

regal sapphire
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Open map

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Oh yeah F

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And

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G

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And E

viscid cypress
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And the space between those objectives, Koreythink

regal sapphire
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It's not like people can go around those 3

jovial forge
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Plus recons

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Ta ks

regal sapphire
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I rarely get killed by recons on hamada

jovial forge
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Tanks

viscid cypress
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As you'll see if you weren't actually blind, that isn't conquest.

analog mist
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There really needs to be a notification that someone is repairing your vehicle.

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Like, a huge one.

regal sapphire
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I didn't even open it, Not gonna bother with you

sterile ingot
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yo the new selbstlader is literally just a worse zh29

viscid cypress
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So I didn't have the luxury of just camping ruins.

regal sapphire
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It's tecnically better Ricin

sterile ingot
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i just went 42-10 with it but its trash

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lol how is it better

regal sapphire
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Has more RPM

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And the specializations are better

sterile ingot
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nah its definitely slower

analog mist
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Tiger I was fixing would have wont that fight had it not decided diving forward was the best option.

regal sapphire
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It's not

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You can compare it

sterile ingot
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than with the zh29 upgrade

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also like literally 3x the recoil

regal sapphire
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I don't use the Zh29 with the rpm upgrade

jovial forge
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Small details that are so minuscule

regal sapphire
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I like having the box magazine

sterile ingot
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nah the zh29 fire rate upgrade is 100000000x better than the mag

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you can 2 tap people faster than a gewehr

jovial forge
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Shoot faster or reload faster basically

viscid cypress
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Not exactly

regal sapphire
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I didn't find the RPM to be that different

viscid cypress
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The mag upgrade gives one extra bullet too

regal sapphire
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I like the new Selbstlader

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I did fine with it

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Also idk why but I hate the BF5 iron sights, except the guns that return from BF1

viscid cypress
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Does it two shot at any range?

regal sapphire
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Yes

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It's just like the Zh-29 in the damage department

viscid cypress
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What's it's rof?

regal sapphire
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It's more than the normal zh-29 but it's less than the upgraded zh-29

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Reload is shit

sterile ingot
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its the same as the base zh29

regal sapphire
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It's 14 more rpm

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Iirc

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I honestly can feel it

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

viscid cypress
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Sounds like they're basically the same and just come to preference

sterile ingot
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zh29 with fire rate upgrade can shoot faster with less recoil

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so its actually 100000x better

viscid cypress
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I'd take the ZH anyway if they were exactly the same

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For the detachable mag

amber notch
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turner or bust

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😩

sterile ingot
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the mag is so trash compared to the fire rate upgrade you can 2 tap people before the recoil even kicks

regal sapphire
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Turner is trash

sterile ingot
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turner is good

amber notch
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@regal sapphire no u

viscid cypress
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Okay but, with the mag you can kill three people instead of two.

amber notch
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use a 3x

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its good

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really good

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with the detachable mag its great

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can reload as fast as the 1907

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Drops people in 3-4 bullets

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whats not to like about it

sterile ingot
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I use the extendo on the turner but it takes literally like half of the game to reload

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but i like the 2x mag size

regal sapphire
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Except the 3x on the brit guns are trash too

analog mist
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Box mag is the superior upgrade.

sterile ingot
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3x is great mate

amber notch
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what guns do you like good sir

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Out of curiosity

sterile ingot
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turner/sturmgewehr on assault, tommy on medic, mg42 on support and zh29 on recon is all i need

amber notch
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that tommy better have 900rpm

regal sapphire
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Tommy is bad

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Me?

sterile ingot
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i also like the sten ngl

viscid cypress
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Tommy is Goddy

amber notch
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"tommy is bad"

regal sapphire
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Assault = Selbstlader or Gewehr 43, Medic = Mp34 all the way, Support = don't really play it, Sniper, Self loaders

amber notch
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Mp34

regal sapphire
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It is trash, the MP34 is so much better

amber notch
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Say that to my 900rpm

sterile ingot
viscid cypress
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MP34 is good, but not for the same reason the Tommy is good.

regal sapphire
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900rpm don't really matter when you can't see who you're shootin at or hitting anyone

amber notch
sterile ingot
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use the red dot mate

dusky saffron
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l m a o

viscid cypress
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Why wouldn't you be able to see?

sterile ingot
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iron sights are buns

amber notch
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Buns

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lol

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🍞

viscid cypress
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Who needs iron sights

dusky saffron
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good ol Kori

amber notch
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that was terrible

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It was lagging so hard

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oml

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that gif

viscid cypress
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Works perfectly on my PC

amber notch
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@regal sapphire what particular reason is it that makes you not enjoy the tommy

viscid cypress
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Maybe get a first world internet connection

amber notch
sterile ingot
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wish I could get something other than spectrum here

regal sapphire
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Like 33 ping is bad

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Lul

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It's not accurate

sterile ingot
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I get the little latency wheel on the side pop up every 2 minutes at least even though I have 30 ping

viscid cypress
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You talk like you don't play at 120 ping minimum

amber notch
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Assault: Turner, M1907, STG44
Medic: Tommy 900rpm, mp40, sumoi
Support: Fg42, mg42, drilling
Recon: ZH

viscid cypress
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Coutin

regal sapphire
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And I still do fine

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

amber notch
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I mean he isnt wrong

sterile ingot
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Also my house isnt wired for ethernet so I have to use wifi from like 50 feet away

amber notch
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at range its shit

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cq its god like

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nothing beats it

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if the mg42 could ads

viscid cypress
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But yet, 33 ping is awful and inaccurate.

amber notch
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shit that would be the best gun in the game

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lol

regal sapphire
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The MP34 is just more versatile

sterile ingot
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drilling beats it wesmart

regal sapphire
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Not when I play on SA

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

amber notch
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mp40 better

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has no recoil

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hits hard

viscid cypress
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Yeah, but then you have to play with Brazilians, which is worse than having high ping.

regal sapphire
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Exactly

sterile ingot
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but you also get to play against brazillians thonk

restive talon
regal sapphire
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No that's the bad part

sterile ingot
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artificially inflating your kd thonk

regal sapphire
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If you think camping is bad on NA servers oooh boy

viscid cypress
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Well I don't, but go on

regal sapphire
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That's it

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It's not bad on NA servers

analog mist
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I've been sitting here, reading all your horribly wrong opinions.

regal sapphire
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Good for you

analog mist
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The Liberator is the best gun.

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Change my mind.

regal sapphire
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Woke

viscid cypress
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The Libtard is good for shooting placed dynamite to get people to bitch about getting one shot by it in the kill feed.

regal sapphire
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The libtard

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That's the best thing I've heard in awhile

dusky saffron
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oh my christ

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the cricket bat noises

viscid cypress
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Imagine completing story challenges and actually getting your rewards.

dusky saffron
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;>

regal sapphire
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Y I F F Squad

analog mist
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Some of those are a pain in the ass.

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Don't even joke.

regal sapphire
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Some of what?

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The story challenges? Didn't bother

viscid cypress
regal sapphire
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Imagine having your game actually work properly

viscid cypress
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The only challenge in that story was killing enemies while singing.

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Just cause you have to herd them around waiting for that part.

dusky saffron
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I got them all in one go

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tbh

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letters were a pain

viscid cypress
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I failed it the first time cause I mixed up the names and just killed people

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I forgot Billy was who you were playing.

dusky saffron
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I skipped the other two stories

regal sapphire
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How the hell can you forget B I L L Y B R I D G E R

dusky saffron
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didn't want to play teenager and bad company

regal sapphire
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I didn't even play the story and I know his name lmao

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It kinda became a low key meme

viscid cypress
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Except if any of them were Bad Company, it was the British one.

dusky saffron
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ye

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and the last tiger

regal sapphire
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I tried playing last tiger on release, kept crashing to desktop

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Gave up

viscid cypress
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Are we referencing the same Bad Company?

dusky saffron
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:^)

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I'm a little disappointed that the commando carbine wasnt imported to multi

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could've been the liberator but in primary form

regal sapphire
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It's probably still going to be

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Like the Chauchat

amber notch
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Why did they give us a gun camo for a gun that isnt even release yet

regal sapphire
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It's free new content, they're not gonna skip on it yet

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Because they dum

amber notch
regal sapphire
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I got the AG 42 skin too

amber notch
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Just let me put leaves on my mg42

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please

viscid cypress
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If they Chauchat is like it was in BF1, then I want it

regal sapphire
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It has slower RPM

viscid cypress
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Actually all I really want is the BAR

regal sapphire
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iirc, It's like it's irl now

midnight nimbus
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Chauchat needs some crazy spread numbers to work

amber notch
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what does iirc mean

midnight nimbus
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hopefully it gets higher RoF than irl

regal sapphire
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If I recall correctly

maiden steppe
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like, 4 bullets per second RPM?

amber notch
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I dont keep up with slang

midnight nimbus
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so it's actually useful

amber notch
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Why not just say i dont know

viscid cypress
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The Chauchat was 3 shot kill in BF1

regal sapphire
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Because I think it's slower

midnight nimbus
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360 RPM from BF1 is a good place for the Chauchat

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IRL is 240ish I think

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3BTK at that RoF would suck

maiden steppe
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The chauchat in the BFV war story felt a bit like the chauchat in BF1

midnight nimbus
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2BTK at that RoF would be OP

viscid cypress
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Honestly I don't know why I liked the BAR, since it was an inferior Chau

regal sapphire
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Yeah

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I think it's about the same RPM looking at Tirallieur footage

maiden steppe
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chauchat is just more difficult to be consistent with due to low RoF

regal sapphire
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It's probably gonna have 0 recoil too

maiden steppe
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miss one shot and you're already suffering compared to BAR

viscid cypress
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The accuracy was better though

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And the damage with the same mag size mattered

midnight nimbus
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BF1 Chauchat sucked

regal sapphire
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I don't get why DICE didn't port over the Lebel too

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No it didn't

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It was fine

midnight nimbus
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BAR way better

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Burton was way better too

regal sapphire
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Yeah because the BAR was low key op

maiden steppe
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BAR telescopic was the shit lol

midnight nimbus
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BAR Trench >>>

viscid cypress
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We need the BAR with the Clyde spec

regal sapphire
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Clyde spec?

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What

viscid cypress
regal sapphire
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o h

midnight nimbus
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Colt Monitor >>>

regal sapphire
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Colt monitor is a prettier BAR

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There were many attempts to make the BAR a better gun

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The polish had theirs, the Swedes had theirs too

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The americans tried out some different designs like the Monitor

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Or the WAR

amber notch
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100mbs update for battlefield

midnight nimbus
#

tbh BFV Chauchat could actually be good

amber notch
#

What is this

midnight nimbus
#

if it gets 50m 3BTK

regal sapphire
#

I didn't have an update

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50m 3btk is too much

amber notch
#

I think it was locating my game location

midnight nimbus
#

BF1 Chauchat had something shitty like 20m 3BTK

amber notch
regal sapphire
#

30-25 is good

midnight nimbus
#

took forever to get to minspread

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and 0.24 base spread was gay

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nah go full 50m like all the other MGs

regal sapphire
#

It'd be unbalanced but ok

viscid cypress
#

If the Chau isn't 3BTK like it was in BF1 then there will be no reason to use it

midnight nimbus
#

not rly

regal sapphire
#

It should be 3btk, but not to 50m

midnight nimbus
#

comparable to other MGs

viscid cypress
#

In BF1 it was to 18m

regal sapphire
#

MMGs?

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Or LMGs?

midnight nimbus
#

20m* for Chauchat

#

both

viscid cypress
#

18m

midnight nimbus
#

ARs and MGs have 50m 5BTK

regal sapphire
#

In what world can the Bren 3 shot in 50m

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Oh right

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It still feels like its more than 5

midnight nimbus
#

Bren also shoots way faster than Chauchat

viscid cypress
#

No wait

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I can't read

midnight nimbus
#

4BTK 360 RPM is really uncompetitive

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in BFV

regal sapphire
#

Up to a certain distance though

#

4btk 360 RPM is a slightly worse Turner, having it have a like 35m 3btk would be fine

midnight nimbus
#

give it 50m 3BTK and big hrec to make it a FG42 alternative

#

Turner hits 4BTK at 50m

regal sapphire
#

Exactly

midnight nimbus
#

even with 50m 3BTK, Chauchat would still be a bad Turner

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which is fine

regal sapphire
#

it's like 100 rpm difference?

midnight nimbus
#

assuming both are 360 RPM

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BF1 Chauchat is 360

regal sapphire
#

the Turner in game is 450 though no?

midnight nimbus
#

no

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it's 360

regal sapphire
#

360?

midnight nimbus
#

359*

regal sapphire
#

Weird

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359 hurr

midnight nimbus
#

same as BF1 AL8

regal sapphire
#

3btk with 360 would be too good then

midnight nimbus
#

need to go 359 instead of 360 so frame rounding doesn't break on conslol

regal sapphire
#

It'd be better than all of the Self loaders

midnight nimbus
#

3BTK at 360 RPM would be fine for Chauchat bc it would actually have spread increase and hrec

#

unlike Turner

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no it wouldn't

#

see: control hitrate

regal sapphire
#

You like to show perfect conditions though no?

#

Balance the game to higher skilled players

midnight nimbus
#

exactly, in a perfect condition, it wouldn't be better

regal sapphire
#

Yes it would lmao

midnight nimbus
#

bc as an LMG, the Chauchat would actually have hrec and spread increase

regal sapphire
#

You can tap fire it

midnight nimbus
#

then you lose DPS

regal sapphire
#

And it'd be a better repeater than all of them

midnight nimbus
#

and it's inferior to semis

#

which can just max RoF

regal sapphire
#

Selbstlader has like 269 rpm no?

midnight nimbus
#

257

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but no spread increase

regal sapphire
#

257 yeah

midnight nimbus
#

and it's 3-3

regal sapphire
#

Don't matter too much past 50m

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You're not gonna be shooting at much at that range anyway

midnight nimbus
#

if you don't shoot past 50m, don't use the Selb then

regal sapphire
#

I still use it

#

And I still do perfectly fine with it

#

Because it's awesome

midnight nimbus
#

better off with something else if you're only engaging <50m

regal sapphire
#

Still do fine though

#

It's my most used gun

#

So

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Even on CQB I use it

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With iron sights

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And I can beat players pretty easily

midnight nimbus
#

ye, end of the day optimal picks aren't a huge deal in pubs

#

like people actually thought the Hellreigel was good in BF1

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even though it really isn't

#

people just like the gun

regal sapphire
#

LOL

#

That's the most absurd thing I've heard

midnight nimbus
#

thing sucked, just use SMG08 if you want bigmag

regal sapphire
#

SMG08 is op

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Pre-patch SMG08

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though

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It was the best

midnight nimbus
#

Hellreigel was designed as the biggest idiot trap possible

regal sapphire
#

And many new players still did fine even though they didn't understand a thing about it

midnight nimbus
#

yeah, exactly the definition of idiot trap

#

good for new players

#

pre-patch SMG08 was gross

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just wasn't good at anything

regal sapphire
#

I liked it tbh

midnight nimbus
#

it was fun

#

in a memey kinda way

#

just like Trench Carbine

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BFV doesn't really have any guns like that

#

that are primaries

regal sapphire
#

M1907 is a joke, but not in the meme kind of way

amber notch
#

its good

midnight nimbus
#

nah 1907 is god tier

regal sapphire
#

It's overpowered

midnight nimbus
#

best 0-50m automatic

#

it's fine

minor gale
#

close combat maps its very good

regal sapphire
#

It's op

midnight nimbus
#

21 rounds max

minor gale
#

Good Morning by the way CatHello

regal sapphire
#

It's a SMG08 with less rounds

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But with alot more damage

midnight nimbus
#

gives up the ease of use from other ARs

#

it's an ACE23 with less rounds

regal sapphire
#

It's the easiest gun to use

midnight nimbus
#

ease of use in terms of ammo management

regal sapphire
#

It's 10 rounds less

amber notch
#

@minor gale its afternoon where it matters

midnight nimbus
#

🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

minor gale
#

its high noon

#

somewhere in the world

thorn heart
#

did they give ratburner to people who had the bug and gave up

midnight nimbus
#

15+1 rounds if you want good hipfire

thorn heart
#

I think somewhere support said the team was gonna retroactively reward it

minor gale
#

Since reverted TTK the 1907 is good again

midnight nimbus
#

1907 is fine balance wise, gud thing DICE doesn't use telemetry at all for balancing

minor gale
#

but Stumgewehr 1-5 is love

thorn heart
#

tfw the first guns you get are op

regal sapphire
#

KE7, StG 1-5

#

Yeah pretty much

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Sten is a beast too

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But not Op

thorn heart
#

sten is pretty good but smgs are so bad its rlly not that much of a shining star

sullen tartan
#

1906 is so fun as a run and gun with the 2x close range scope

regal sapphire
#

Exactly

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2x scope sucks

#

The reticle is shit

sullen tartan
#

It feels like people dont see scope glare tho

thorn heart
#

smle isnt that bad

regal sapphire
#

I like the Gewehr 95 more

#

And I still don't have the Kar

thorn heart
#

everyone uses the smle or 95

midnight nimbus
#

SG 1-5 is a bit weak for what it is

thorn heart
#

it makes me scream

regal sapphire
#

Bit weak

midnight nimbus
#

could use a bit less hrec under DICE balance scheme

regal sapphire
midnight nimbus
#

falls to the StG a bit soon

regal sapphire
#

You know there's a thing called RPM?

thorn heart
#

for a first gun its op

midnight nimbus
#

yes, and RPM isn't everything

regal sapphire
#

Yes it is though

midnight nimbus
#

that's why hrec and spread exist

thorn heart
#

rpm is lot in cqc lol

#

spread isnt thag bad

minor gale
#

Lewis Gun is lit

midnight nimbus
#

RPM is everything in CQB

regal sapphire
#

Recoil isn't that bad either

midnight nimbus
#

BFV still has enough spread for proper balance

regal sapphire
#

It's less than most of the SMGs

thorn heart
#

Recoil is literally gone with the specializations

midnight nimbus
#

most hrec in the series for automatics

thorn heart
#

horizontal is nonexistent anyway

minor gale
#

going for Golden Gewehr 95 today

midnight nimbus
#

objectively the most hrec

short estuary
#

StG 44 one love

thorn heart
#

kek7 has the most intense horizontal

amber notch
#

imagine going for gold

#

for no reason

timid stag
#

Imagine thinking game good woahthink woahthink woahthink

little fjord
#

Um... I've blown up many tanks today... still first tides of war thing says I haven't done 200 damage to vehicles

amber notch
#

yikes.

little fjord
#

🤦

amber notch
#

Failed bait

little fjord
#

Is there a trick to workaround the bug

thorn heart
#

most other guns are balanced by things like magazine size or rpm but guns like the 1-5 and kek7 rely on recoil

#

stg

short estuary
#

golden guns....HaHAA

minor gale
#

Well nothing more to grind for

thorn heart
#

wasting precious cc on gun skins...

short estuary
minor gale
#

so golden guns are the only thing to grind for atm

short estuary
#

never gold

thorn heart
minor gale
#

LVL 50, all classes on 20

#

so what to do

thorn heart
#

I'd buy the night skins for all my guns if I had any more cc left

short estuary
#

i waiting 100 lvl and CC grind

#

all i need is CC

timid stag
#

Let yikes xD

minor gale
#

boins

thorn heart
#

the gold/mastery challenges are sometimes totally stupid

amber notch
#

been on lvl 50 lvl 20 everything since day 8

minor gale
viscid cypress
#

Can we talk about how a tank shell glancing blow does 2 damage and a PF does 15 damage ?

amber notch
#

Because game logic

thorn heart
#

dice is never gonna get bouncing shots right

minor gale
#

medium tanks outdamage heavy ones

#

so broken

thorn heart
#

proved by bf1 where heavy tanks were entirely OP for like a month

#

light tanks on bc rule supreme in every way

viscid cypress
#

Even full on hits do pathetic damage

thorn heart
#

run circles around heavy tanks and are better in every way

#

armor doesnt matter when all tanks die in like 3 hits

midnight nimbus
#

SG 1-5 has 0.55 hrec at 670 RPM, similar to BF4 900 RPM compensator AEK
KE7 has 0.45 hrec at 635 RPM, pretty much the same as BF4 770 RPM ACE 23

#

SG 1-5 is kinda weak for what it is

viscid cypress
#

Also, remember when people were so excited about ducking?

topaz dome
#

and then ducking doesn't help very much 😦

thorn heart
#

ducking is awful

topaz dome
#

can get shot, can get exploded

viscid cypress
#

I told everyone that when it was announced and I was downvoted to hell

thorn heart
#

cant shoot anything and you die by any explosions

#

they add ducking but have yet to add crash landing and dragging

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out of sheer laziness

topaz dome
#

dragging should just be changed to can move while downed probably

viscid cypress
#

Dragging would be even less useful than ducking.

thorn heart
#

dragging is less niche thougj

#

and is useful for buddy revives

viscid cypress
#

Describe the scenario

analog mist
#

Dragging will be useful for non-medics

#

It depends on how long the animation takes.

thorn heart
#

outside a doorway of a house you could just drag the body inside instead of getting shot in the ass

#

depends on speed entirely

viscid cypress
#

Okay, you get shot the moment you step out the door, try again

#

Lets also assume that dragging actually works and it's not like reviving where you have to find the perfect angle most of the time.

midnight nimbus
#

bring back BF1 revive 😤

compact oxide
#

Reviving as a buddy takes too long so dragging would be good

midnight nimbus
#

make medic really good at its job

viscid cypress
#

Go back to BF1

compact oxide
#

I'm tempted tbh

viscid cypress
#

Medic trains are a plague

compact oxide
#

Bfv just isn't fun for some reason

midnight nimbus
#

BF1 medic revive + BFV squad revive would be a nice contrast

#

cucking revive time doesn't fix medic train

#

it just makes people not want to revive

#

you change cooldown time

viscid cypress
#

Making revives risky does

midnight nimbus
#

not the actual revive time

#

no, make it impossible to spam

#

instead of undesirable to revive

viscid cypress
#

It doesn't fucking matter if the charge time is 5 seconds if the revive is instant, you've really changed nothing that fixes the problem

midnight nimbus
#

yes it does

#

if your revives don't cool down fast, you can't medic train

compact oxide
#

If there's a large cool down then you're good

midnight nimbus
#

it's like people who say "we need press G to equip grenade" to fix grenade spam

#

like no, that just adds extra clicking

#

doesn't actually fix anything

compact oxide
#

As it is in bfv you still have squads of medics that can never die if they've got a brain

midnight nimbus
#

you add an input buffer

viscid cypress
#

Okay well go back and play brain dead medic in BF1

compact oxide
#

Lol

#

You really aren't listening to any of these arguments are you

#

Just "fuck medics and anyone who likes rezzing"

viscid cypress
#

Okay, most of my play time is medic, so try again

compact oxide
#

Lol

regal sapphire
#

Rezzing in BF1 was fun

#

Rezzing in BF5 feels like a chore

dusky saffron
#

eh

#

I think the rezzing in bfv is nice

#

gives you a choice whether to risk doing it

#

or to just delay/ignore the player

regal sapphire
#

Its not like the old system was risk proof

viscid cypress
#

It almost entirely was

dusky saffron
#

old system is risk proof

#

unless someone was right on top to perma death with a melee

regal sapphire
#

It also was fun to kill people with the syringe

viscid cypress
#

Which of course makes no sense

regal sapphire
#

Still was fun

viscid cypress
#

Revives dead people, kills alive people.

compact oxide
#

You survive being stabbed with adrenaline

dusky saffron
#

you were injected with german juice

#

as an american

viscid cypress
#

People do it all the time

regal sapphire
#

Not with extreme amouts, it kills

viscid cypress
#

But revives dead people?

regal sapphire
#

People get hooked on adrenaline

compact oxide
#

IMO I liked BF1 rezzing, still like rezzing in bfv but it needs dragging

dusky saffron
#

that's all it needs to be great

#

dragging

regal sapphire
#

Well not revive per say, medics use it to stop pain from injuries

viscid cypress
#

Dragging won't do anything

#

Actually wait

#

It will do something

#

You'll latch on, and as soon as you start to move, you'll both go flying across the map

regal sapphire
#

They havent mentioned dragging in like forever though

timid coyote
#

Really having a hard time playing the Gewehr m95 ):

midnight nimbus
#

stop making BF roles a chore

#

fast rezzing is great

dusky saffron
#

no

midnight nimbus
#

make everything fast, balance with appropriate cooldowns or input buffers

timid coyote
#

guys should i switch back to AR or suffer in Recon? x.x?

#

helo?

regal sapphire
#

Use the self loaders

timid coyote
#

like the gewehr?

#

43?

#

I personally don't like it x.x

minor gale
timid coyote
#

guys can someone give me the pros and cons for being a sniper and pros and cons for changing from sniper to assault?

minor gale
#

why only play one class?

viscid cypress
#

Actually that compensation stuff is bullshit

compact oxide
#

Sniper is precision assault is spamalamalam

stray isle
#

the deal 500 damage in a airplane have to be done a certian way?

#

seem like any dmg i do is not being counted

opaque cipher
#

@timid coyote one shot kill

#

If you are good at aiming you’ll destroy

#

Assault will fuck up any vehicle though

analog mist
#

@stray isle I found going after other planes with a fighter was fastest

stray isle
#

@analog mist ok. thank you

opaque cipher
#

Actually no

#

Use AA tanks @stray isle

#

You absolutely shred

frozen sparrow
#

if it's "in an airplane" I would imagine AA tank doesn't work

opaque cipher
#

Both infantry and planes have no power over you

#

Oh

frozen sparrow
#

being the gunner in a plane sounds like the fastest way

opaque cipher
#

Yeah gunner of JU88 or Stuka

frozen sparrow
#

or just flying a fighter

opaque cipher
#

The VGO gunner seats gengu

#

They have so little travel time and so much trace

mossy yarrow
lime stirrup
#

I used the 8x 303s with the Spitfire VA to do it. That plane is hilarious

#

Most bombers expect to be able to pitch up, switch seats, and use the tail gun to get you off. With the 8x 303s they are dead before they can even switch

#

tbh it's pretty broken

orchid smelt
#

fuck

lime stirrup
#

and even though it can be out manoeuvred by any fighter with better turn rate specialisations it doesn't matter. Just get behind them first and "brrrrrt", half second later dead

orchid smelt
#

Week 3 is bugged

#

did the first challenge

#

now it's not showing the other challenges

solid hinge
#

@orchid smelt Not rly?

stray isle
#

i cannot seem to get the airplane dmg to register

solid hinge
#

In some ways this game feels like an EarlyAccess game

#

I dont get it, nobody would have been hurt if the game would have been postponed to march 2019

#

But we would have spared the community alot of unneeded outrage

orchid smelt
#

uhhh

#

EA would've been hurt

#

no christmas sales

solid hinge
#

would be nice to know how much dont buy the game approaching christmas because of the endless negative PR in all media

#

even the most core streamers and folks around battlefield gave Dice the middlefinger for last weeks TTK

#

Dont get me wrong, I'm in a love hate relationship with this game, I havent spent this many hours in a game since years

orchid smelt
#

well yeah, but they're returning the favor by reverting and giving us 5 weapons {2 insta unlocks} and 3 you gotta work on TOW

solid hinge
#

the ribeye steak btw is awesome

#

such accuracy

dusky saffron
#

ribeye steak is very niceu to use

lime stirrup
#

god I hate the name of that gun

solid hinge
#

why u hatin?

dusky saffron
#

yeah

#

don't hate the ribbey

frozen sparrow
#

I'm not a huge fan of it, its damage feels lackluster to me

solid hinge
#

maybe but its crazy accurate

frozen sparrow
#

is it though? second shot recoil is huge

dusky saffron
#

it really is

frozen sparrow
#

gotta pull down pretty aggressively for that

lime stirrup
#

Can anyone link me an article explaining the name Ribeyrolles, like.... was it named after some dude, or is it french/german for something?

dusky saffron
#

french name

#

anyways

solid hinge
#

well you start shootin at the balls and end up at the head

frozen sparrow
#

that is true

dusky saffron
#

I'm pretty accurate with it at like

#

50m+

frozen sparrow
#

which is also what I sort of ended up doing one round

#

after that I just pulled down after the first shot which also worked

#

since I don't want to "waste" the first shot

lime stirrup
cobalt cove
#

Anyone else having problems with tracking goals

frozen sparrow
#

any specific goals?

lime stirrup
#

hmm, so it's a french family name. Okay

solid hinge
#

maybe the creator

#

like the K for Kalaschnikow

#

in AK47

lime stirrup
#

at least that name sounds badass

opaque cipher
#

I mean

#

Browning sounds goofy

#

If you stretch it it sounds like it’s describing someone taking a shit

solid hinge
#

the sound everybody does when looking into its barrel ^^

opaque cipher
#

Kek

little fjord
#

So vgo for support, selb for sniper, ag m42 probably for assault... plus a new shotty for support, a new assault rifle.... nothing for medic

frank spindle
#

Was it ever confirmed that putting on 3x scope on a gun increases vertical recoil? Versus, say, an iron sight

little fjord
#

😔

#

Rip medic

#

No love

#

I suppose the ratburner shroud helmet is for medic

#

To hide his shame

solid hinge
#

Hello

#

Uhhh

#

When r we going to get new tanks?

little fjord
#

🤔

#

Moar tanks

solid hinge
#

Theres 3 in the game

#

That can be found destroyed

#

2 british

#

1 german

granite rune
#

M1911

Luger P08

Walther P38

Steyr M1912

Browning HI-Power (PL)

Webley MK.VI
Ruby Pistol
FP-45 Liberator
Mars Auto Pistol (PL)(L)
Steyr M1912 P16 (PL)(L)
Astra 900 (PL)(L)

#

Erma-EMP
MP28
MP40
M1928 Thompson
Sten MKII
MP34
KP-31
Welgun (PL)
Ribeyrolles 1918 (PL)(L) (Not sure if is the SMG)
Sterling (PL)(L)
ZK383 (PL)(L)
Lanchester (PL)(L)

#

M30
Sjogren (PL)
Model 12 (PL)
M1897 Trench Gun (PL)
12G (Aka Browning Auto-5)

#

Steyr M1895
M1 Garand (PL)
CEI-RIGOTTI (L)(PL)
AG M/42 (PL)
De Lisle Rifle (PL)
MAS44 (L) (PL)
Ross Rifle (L) (PL)
Selbstlader 1906 (aka Luger Rifle) (L) (PL)
C96 Carbine (L)(PL)
FN1903 Stock (L)(PL)
Artillery Luger (L)(PL)

#

have fun with these

#

Chauchat (PL)
Vickers K (PL)
BAR M1918 (PL)
Madsen LMG (PL)
MG 15 N.a (L)(PL)
Darne Machine Gun (L)(PL)
Browning M1919 (L)(PL)
MG30 (L)(PL)

#

sorry forgot these ones

#

here ya go have fun with fawning over some of these

#

Panzerschreck (PL)
M9 Bazooka(PL)
Fliegerfaust(PL)
Tankgewehr (L)(PL)
M2 Flamethower (L) (PL)
Einstossflammenwerfer 46 (L) (PL)

sorry cannot forget our launchers and specials

cobalt cove
#

Yeah I’m not collecting any points on the first objective 200 damage to vechiles

lime stirrup
#

what does the PL stand for, and the L

urban crown
#

um

#

the war story thing is bugged ?

#

just did a round as assault - killed 5 tanks but the point for 200 damage to vehicles hasnt progressed at all

lime stirrup
#

the first assignment doesn't count unless you are in a tank

urban crown
#

seriously ?

lime stirrup
#

yeah, they worded it wrong or it's bugged

urban crown
#

well f me

#

i hate playing tanks

lime stirrup
#

I did an entire round as assault on panzerstorm and had no progress, jumped into a tank and it suddenly counted

urban crown
#

many thanks for the info

#

i guess i'll need to get a tank

lime stirrup
#

pro tip, join a rotterdam map and the next in the list will be panzerstorm

urban crown
#

great 😃

lime stirrup
#

also easy to do the air assignments on that map

cobalt cove
#

It also counts if you use AA

urban crown
#

im guessing the last step "destroy tank" also has to be done in a tank

cobalt cove
#

Probably

#

This tree seems tank heavy not really vehicles in general

urban crown
#

umm

#

is server browser also RIP ?

granite rune
#

@lime stirrup (PL is Post Launch and L = Launch)

urban crown
#

cant find any servers

soft breach
#

The new shotgun is hard to use on ps4

#

i tried it on the bridge on twisted steel, i always got killed by a sniper or an assault player with stg

#

I need to learn how to play better with shotguns

unique thunder
#

verrrrrrrrrry close

#

but hipfire weapons will always be a bit tougher on console. You usually get all the aim assist when you ads

light coral
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I just play Dom for shotguns. For larger game modes, I just use the drilling rifle round or slugs

sullen tartan
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so is it normal to see an end game screen say you got 3k company coin but you dont actually get any

soft breach
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hmm, domination is not a bad idea, i played conquest

light coral
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Dom in BF5 is probably the best Dom experience I've had in BF

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It's just conquest lite

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Easy mode

unique thunder
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if no-one is online it's my solo go to, or duos

light coral
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32 man Dom is great

unique thunder
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great fun

hoary condor
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Breakthrough is my fav

light coral
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I have yet to try that

soft breach
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same

unique thunder
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haven't played it a ton but i'd say out of 10-12 or so games it's always been a lock at the first two objectives. Felt a bit pointless

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could have just been the maps though

hoary condor
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it's what i played on bf1

unique thunder
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I'd rather rush

hoary condor
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depends on the team

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sometimes, when i defend if we have a good team, we end up attacking so they attackers can't attack LUL

soft breach
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Isn't that more of a attack defence kind of mode?

hoary condor
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Yeah

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1 team defend the objective, the other attacks, you get pushed back through sectors

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plus less vehicles

undone steppe
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i still need to try frontlines i heard its actually pretty fun. I just never bothered because its only 32 player

light coral
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I've really only played CQL and Dom, with a few rounds of Frontlines and TDM mixed in. I played CQL only for like the first 3 weeks, and Dom is honestly a breath of fresh air

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I never really played it much before BF5

hoary condor
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i might try frontlines since it's only 32 lol

light coral
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Very back and forth imo

unique thunder
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is frontlines the one that can go on for ages?

hoary condor
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one ting that always annoys me is campers in tanks lol

light coral
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Spent one match literally fighting between the same two objs for like 20 minutes

undone steppe
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i just like the chaos that 64 brings

light coral
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Yes it can last forever

hoary condor
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64 i don't enjoy

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i ClassScout but it's so hard on 64 lol

lime stirrup
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I wish they'd experiment with 128 servers, we have the technology

unique thunder
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jesus I find 64 man enough of a clusterfuck most times

soft breach
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Is breakthrough on domination scaled maps or conquest scaled maps?

hoary condor
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yeah even worse on a map like hamada

lime stirrup
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need superiority maps too, all tanks and all air is heaps of fun

light coral
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I'm pretty sure breakthrough is the entire map, just in small sectors

undone steppe
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yeah id like a grand operations with a titan mode with 100 players

lime stirrup
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oh my god titan mode, so many good memories

undone steppe
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forreal

hoary condor
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yeah that's correct beef

lime stirrup
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why they haven't done that again is beyond me

undone steppe
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i just watched a youtube video and it seems like dice may resurrect it

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someone found something in concept art

hoary condor
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isn't there a new war story?

light coral
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The last tiger

hoary condor
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thought there was another one lol

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what did the announce on twitter earlier this week?.

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new chapter?

lime stirrup
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@undone steppe BF4s last DLC Final Stand was full of 2142 references. But we didn't get a follow up

undone steppe
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yeah i was so hyped when i saw those references but im guessing it will be a few more years

lime stirrup
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eh bf4/bf1 "carrier assaults" were lame as fuck

hoary condor
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i miss the Russian sniper

undone steppe
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yeah didnt like them thats why im looking forward to the flak tower assault

light coral
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I haven't heard any announcements besides free weapons, ttk reversion

hoary condor
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love the way that gun sounded

light coral
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Silver plated m1911

lime stirrup
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Personally I wish they'd do a Cold War battlefield. Or vietnam. Or 2143.

undone steppe
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arent they doing something with visibility since everyone is complaining about that now

compact oxide
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Battlefield Korea ❤

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Plz

light coral
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Mmm Korean War