#battlefield-legacy-titles

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main grove
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And now semi autos will still be better than every single scout weapon

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At sniping

azure vault
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good, fuck snipers

dense bone
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when are snipers ever a problem...

coarse spindle
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Guess we gotta wait for 18 hours til the update rolls in

solid hinge
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fuck assaults semi auto

novel mason
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Saucy announcement

neat flax
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WOW dice actually listens! thanks dice

dense bone
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im NEVER scared of snipers

marble phoenix
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you jsut gotta be a tough ass sniper

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oh no snipers on the food chains

main grove
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Snipers are shit in this unless you're some sort of mega sweat

dense bone
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@zenith ocean you know almost 1.7 is really high right?

lapis hare
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boiii

main grove
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Like Stodeh

marble phoenix
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you walk them down with zig zags towards that bright light

lapis hare
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this hella good

opal fox
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Finally old ttk

marble phoenix
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make them switch that pistol

slow spindle
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Ttk is back

dense bone
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@zenith ocean kda means nothing, you can camp to get a good kda

marble phoenix
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they dead meat then

slow spindle
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👌

dense bone
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@zenith ocean and my 1.65 kpm is top 4%

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@zenith ocean kda doesnt mean anything

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@zenith ocean you can get 5 kills and 1 death every game and have a 5kda

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@zenith ocean that doesnt mean anything

opal fox
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LoL

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Tagging

dense bone
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how childish

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was just making sure you see my points since there are others talking

gray glade
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i just notice he's prinCESS luigi

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or she whatever

wary mason
opal fox
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That escalated quickly

azure vault
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internet cockwaving

dense bone
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@wary mason @zenith ocean they were mad i tagged them for responses, and spammed me, and now they are spamming my DM

solid hinge
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block them

dense bone
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makes me feel special

opal fox
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Well one guy told another not to keep tagging but the other guy did so first guy spammed tag for rvenge and got banhammered

dense bone
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the problem is when he asked me to stop was the moment he started spamming

marble phoenix
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PRincess Waluigi was offended thts what i saw

soft storm
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So guys

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We did it

novel mason
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It's true

neat flax
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thanks snuggle(?)

opal fox
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👀

soft storm
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I’m not surprised they reverted it

novel mason
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He has a picked sign and everything

opal fox
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All hail snuggles

soft storm
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EA probably realized that core players are more important than new cattle

opal fox
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No they realised snuggles was the lord

novel mason
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🙏 Praise be the snuggles 🙏

dense bone
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i like how people cried for casual gameplay, but they think its not casual since bf worded their message incorrectly

latent cairn
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Snutten they fixed the game! Chag

opal fox
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So they couldn't defy him

dense bone
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they made it bad aim friendly

neat flax
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I was just scared they won't change their minds tbh

dense bone
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my kdr increase by .4 because people couldnt camp as effectively or they couldnt land shots

azure vault
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somebody panicked when the share prices kept sliding post launch

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lol

fading gyro
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Would be hilarious if DICE actually changed nothing tomorrow, and the community was all happy with everything over the next week.

pulsar valve
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Thanks dice, very cool!

opal fox
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🤔

dense bone
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@fading gyro i bet a vast majority wouldnt even notice

opal fox
dense bone
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i mean... its a 1 bullet difference

fading gyro
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@dense bone that’s my assumption too lol

azure vault
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i didnt either, since i just run around with the drilling

latent cairn
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Launch TTK is best TTK Chag

smoky violet
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head shot is a head shot no matter what TTK it was. I didn't even see a difference.

dense bone
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for scrubs

gray glade
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goddamn, which key to rebind crouch to? i want to be able to slide properly in BFV and currently im using default keys which makes sliding nigh impossible

fading gyro
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I noticed a huge change with the Lewis gun.

azure vault
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all i noticed was a 2HP drop on the rifle round

novel mason
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I just ran around with the bayonet

azure vault
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60 to 58

dense bone
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@smoky violet if you were landing headshots then higher ttk is better

latent cairn
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Nah Nyphon, the "newer" TTK settings were for scrubs :3

coarse spindle
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@gray glade C

neat flax
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i just headbutts people most of the time. what's a ttk?

novel mason
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@gray glade C on toggle crouch, x on heal

gray glade
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but thats already crouch

dense bone
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@latent cairn higher ttk means you need better aim

gray glade
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crouch but toggle

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i think?

smoky violet
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@dense bone I prefer sniping. So that's where I'm coming from.

dense bone
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so lower ttk is more casual friendly

latent cairn
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@dense bone Also means that high ping now is even worse. Because it stacks
Not to mention completely destroyed the medic class

coarse spindle
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I have my heals on capslock

dense bone
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lower ttk puts more importance on positioning, seeing other player first, and camping

gray glade
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hardcore in BF3/BF4 was for the noobs cuz they didnt need to aim as much

novel mason
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I mean, it stacked regardless

smoky violet
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spray and pray lol

latent cairn
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So closer to real life Nyphon 😉

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😂

dense bone
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this isnt real life

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so dont say that as a point

latent cairn
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I know it isnt, I am glad the vocal minority didnt get it their way though

smoky violet
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good point

opal fox
dense bone
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vocal minority are getting their way

novel mason
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BFV Best milsim 2018

dense bone
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most people dont care

latent cairn
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Lol relax dude, didnt see the "😂"? I was joking

dense bone
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im not really repling in a non relaxed way

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pretty neutral

latent cairn
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I believe you are wrong, but without actual polls etc. we wont know

dense bone
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how am i wrong?

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even polls wont determine anything

latent cairn
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That the minority got it their way. I think the majority got it their way

dense bone
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this is a casual game, theres millions and millions of people that just start the game and play

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dont think that a majority of reddit means a majority of players

latent cairn
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Idk about reddit, hate that site. Never on it

dense bone
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well if youre talking about in this disc thats an even smaller community

coarse spindle
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Yea pretty much the only fellas i see bitching and whining about the game is on reddit/yt

dense bone
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people are more likely to complain vs say nothing

latent cairn
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Lol no. Majority of Discord has wanted it changed back to the launch TTK.
Just bamboozled by those liking it shooting their opinions down every chance they get with arguments that have nothing behind them

dense bone
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and discord is a small community, especially the vocal

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so there is no way to indicate that means most players

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because this game sold millions

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lets just say 1 million

latent cairn
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Yes, that is true.
Did it really? 🤔

dense bone
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even if ALL the people in this server hated it, thats only 30k

latent cairn
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How many copies did they sell

dense bone
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30k vs 1 million other people potentially playing

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so yea, theres a very small vocal minority that got their way

latent cairn
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Meh, tbh idc some people will get salty they didn't get it their way. I got it my way so I am happy 😈

cerulean finch
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Thanks!

dense bone
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most dont care or even know about changes

azure vault
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BF5 sold 63% of what BF1 sold, ftr

latent cairn
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Yeah those who play one game per month wont care nor notice

dense bone
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which is in the millions

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my buddy that plays like every other day didnt even know there was a ttk change

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and he could hardly tell a difference

latent cairn
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Yeah so just under 10mil

dense bone
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and hes a good player, not top 10% but definitely better than a lot of peple

hot trench
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I play the game everyday and I'm not bothered about either changes to the TTK.

latent cairn
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That is really easy to put opinions on.

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Did he play sniper?

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There are so many factors playing in

dense bone
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nah he was medic or assault

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but seriously.. it was 1 bullet difference

latent cairn
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No there wasnt

dense bone
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thats not a big difference

hot trench
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Exactly

latent cairn
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Medic was more than 1 bullet :3

icy sluice
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cough

dense bone
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at certain ranges it could be 2

ivory schooner
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10 in my case, but that’s my aim

icy sluice
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Well, on the bright side, with people dying faster, I'll be getting more revives

dense bone
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which is not the range medics should be engaging at, and i said they need a range buff

icy sluice
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which. means. nothing.

latent cairn
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lol Raptor

dense bone
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im just sad headshots lose a lot of their luster

icy sluice
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I'm level 20 Sanitater, I get nothing from reviving now

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Except for uhh... making sure you're up

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Or whatever

lapis hare
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''Veteran players didn’t ask for the change''

latent cairn
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lmao

lapis hare
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insert that Deus Ex meme

icy sluice
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WHICH ONE!?

dense bone
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headshot kills vs body shot kills is like a fraction of a second difference

latent cairn
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Dont fix stuff that is not broken

lapis hare
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I N E V E R A S K E D F O R T H I S

gray glade
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deus ex has a meme?

latent cairn
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Netcode needs improvement

fading gyro
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@icy sluice advice on leveling medic? I’m trying to work my way towards the tommy gun, and it just feels like a slog.

frank vortex
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Okay. So trying to skip a revive causes the ticking circle to... slow down?

icy sluice
solid hinge
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so glad that DICE listened to fan feedback

dense bone
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to casual feedback

icy sluice
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@fading gyro If you see your team zerg rushing, stay BEHIND them and try to revive people who have fallen... Also spam the bandages

latent cairn
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ooooh awesome!

solid hinge
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Well yeah I'm a casual player, i enjoyed the old TTK more

dense bone
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"ugh i cant aim, make it less bullets to kill, i cant land 1 extra bullet"

icy sluice
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Fucking SPAM them

latent cairn
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@solid hinge We are getting it back :p

solid hinge
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They finally listened looks like

crisp forge
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they are really bringing the old ttk back?

dense bone
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"finally'

icy sluice
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The Community is going to be calling the times we've had this TTK something stupid, I can tell it

solid hinge
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Yup ^_^ really happy about it @latent cairn

latent cairn
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I cant handle this salt, already had too much on my food LUL

dense bone
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theyve been listening but ok

solid hinge
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time to remove my tag

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@dense bone they werent this past week

icy sluice
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@dense bone Right? They're going to be calling the period of time we've had TTK 2.0 something stupid

lapis hare
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im gonna tell my grandchildren

dense bone
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thats why you got both ttks up and they added core to all modes....

lapis hare
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about the times I fought

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in the great ttk war

icy sluice
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There we go

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Great TTK War, that's the name 👀

twilit pelican
solid hinge
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they removing core servers

fading gyro
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@icy sluice Gotcha—been running smoke gadget and smoke hand nades, thoughts?

solid hinge
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thats good

dense bone
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NOW because they are reverting

icy sluice
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@fading gyro That's good to have smoke

dense bone
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theres literally no indication of them not listening

opal fox
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1.0 won over 2.0, the great ttk war

solid hinge
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@dense bone you paid to say stuff like this or what?

dense bone
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im logical

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which seems to lack here

solid hinge
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ok......

twilit pelican
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@dense bone im fat

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Which seems to lack here

fading gyro
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Memeing this isn’t going to produce anything useful, say thanks for listening, and keep playing.

dense bone
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you say they dont listen when they add old ttk and new ttk to test, people were mad, so they added core toa ll modes.. thats literally them listening

icy sluice
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But... the memes

opal fox
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@twilit pelican hi fat.... Oh nvm

solid hinge
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but I am still not playing BF5 today because change is coming tomorrow

latent cairn
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Nyphon lowkey attacking people because they have a different opinion thonk
Didn't see it coming, remembered him as a decent guy

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

icy sluice
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Memes are our DNA

solid hinge
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do not play bf5 today because you will be playing with the new ttk

dense bone
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its not a different opinion

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its wrong

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they were listening whole time, saying they werent listening is a lie

twilit pelican
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Memes are okay as long as they dont saturate

solid hinge
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YAAAAAS they removed the TTK changes!

latent cairn
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Oh, I thought you were talking to someone else

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Yes they have been listening

fading gyro
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@twilit pelican that’s pretty much the only thing memes do

west plinth
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Well damn, DICE saying "whoops, that wasn't good, lets go back in that". Actually suprising

neat flax
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the thing is they're just not transparent about it. unlike other devs

latent cairn
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They reacted much faster than I expected

twilit pelican
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@fading gyro with time

neat flax
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r6 for example

tacit kelp
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why people stealing tanks??? i dominate on Aerodrom i get out to call V1, after that i lost tank....

twilit pelican
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As of rn the great ttk war is accurate

tacit kelp
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this is ridicolous

dense bone
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r6 is one of the better communication between dev and players, so using that as an example for why dice is bad isnt really a good scenario

solid hinge
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I still will remember this huge mistake from DICE

tacit kelp
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also cant drive and lose it in 30 seconds

solid hinge
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its not something you can just forgive in one day

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So they reverted TTK ?

marble phoenix
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what mistake?

solid hinge
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damn the did

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yis

latent cairn
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Yeah update coming @solid hinge

solid hinge
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FUCKING EBIC LOIS

twilit pelican
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Vets won over christmas noobs

dense bone
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"vets"

twilit pelican
solid hinge
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@dense bone they literally made the TTK higher for CASUALS only. Did you even read they reasoning behind the changes on "game-announcements"? The changes are where for the nabs exclusively.

coarse spindle
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18 hours to go

latent cairn
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Ehhh nothing to forgive. They fixed the game back to what is best Kappa

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That is what matters

solid hinge
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my baby FG42 isn’t dead and nerfed Into the ground Chag

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now we can slaughter the noobs properly

dense bone
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@solid hinge higher ttk isnt casual, you need better aim to be effective with new ttk, lower ttk benefits who sees who first and camping

latent cairn
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Exactly @solid hinge!

solid hinge
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i do hope that firestorm (battle royale?) gets higher TTK specifically for it

twilit pelican
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@dense bone vets are the only ones that took a stand

solid hinge
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@solid hinge let the seal clubbing begin

opal fox
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I just unlocked the fg42

dense bone
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people with shit aim took a stand

solid hinge
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@solid hingelmfao

dense bone
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if you had good aim you wrecked in higher ttk

opal fox
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I loved it during the beta

solid hinge
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people with shit aim deserve to enjoy the game, too

dense bone
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ehh

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yes

solid hinge
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picturing that on my head.

dense bone
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but they shouldnt "win" because of it

latent cairn
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They wont.

solid hinge
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i'm sure they'll make a playlist for those who liked the new ttk

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seal with childs face

dense bone
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i dont mind either way, ill play whats populated

latent cairn
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A single squad of good players can turn the game around easily

little zenith
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yee

twilit pelican
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@dense bone sorry i disagree as i watch youtubers like stodeh and jackfrags who have amazing aim and still agree old ttk was better

little zenith
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ttk back

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owo

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uwu

latent cairn
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Unless Nyphon is OG Scream in BF thonk

little zenith
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owo time

dense bone
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@twilit pelican they can like one more than the other, but that doesnt mean that they didnt do better with higher ttk

shrewd cosmos
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owo i got cancer

opal fox
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Owo

little zenith
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OwO

kindred orchid
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Hmm.

shrewd cosmos
dense bone
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more time to kill means you gotta aim more, so that favors someone with better aim

deft crescent
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whiners won

solid hinge
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the Core Playlists are more popular than the new TTK playlists

opal fox
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OwO hammer time

random dust
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Dice is fixing the thing!

dense bone
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doesnt mean all people with good aim like higher ttk

random dust
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Why are there so many furry faces suddenly

little zenith
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Guys please not forget about how broken the game still is

twilit pelican
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@dense bone its tactical

little zenith
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Dice needs to fix 'em

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or else it wont matter

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at the end

random dust
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Well yeah

twilit pelican
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Quit crying and get good

latent cairn
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My aim is not good until its within 95-100% HS percentage

solid hinge
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WTF is broken

dense bone
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@twilit pelican yes it is, which tactical emphasis camping, and positioning instead of aim

random dust
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But progress is progress

solid hinge
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Besides the crashes

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peoples victory

dense bone
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@twilit pelican you telling me to quit crying and get good?

twilit pelican
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@dense bone no it emphasizes thinking and flanking

dense bone
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@twilit pelican and takes away from aim

twilit pelican
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Aim isnt everything

dense bone
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no its not

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and neither is thinking and flanking

solid hinge
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Emphasizes using your brain 🤔

dense bone
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you need everything to be good

neat flax
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i say eh, bcs higher ttk reduces the incentive towards camping but doesnt reward big flanks as much as lower ttk

latent cairn
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Next hope is for them to increase the max level Chag

dense bone
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its just a balance change

deft crescent
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@dense bone "if you had good aim you wrecked in higher ttk" < this. I just went 62/10 with a sten (no recoil headshot machine)

kindred orchid
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If there was anything the new ttk showed me was how many lower body shots I usually take on slr's.

twilit pelican
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@dense bone exactly so stop moaning like a salty seaman

dense bone
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ive been stoping with higher ttk, and i say i have good aim

solid hinge
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Meh I could care less about level max @latent cairn

kindred orchid
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It was kind of fun to correct it.

solid hinge
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yup

dense bone
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@twilit pelican i have good stats in both ttk, so dont take that route with me

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and i literally just said i dont care what i play

latent cairn
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@solid hinge Its just kinda dumb that 42% of all players are level 50 already LUL

dense bone
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just dont act like casuals didnt win

twilit pelican
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@dense bone casuals are tactical?

solid hinge
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I’d like to see better company coin acquisition tho @latent cairn that is true tho

kindred orchid
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Ironically I did consistently better with the new ttk as opposed to the old one.

dense bone
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@dense bone it deemphasis machanics

opal fox
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The game needs quality of life updates, there still many other bugs

latent cairn
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@solid hinge There are more important things for sure, but changing the max level should be a quick change tbh

eternal apex
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Can they stop messing with TTK? It’s fine as it is

marble phoenix
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yes raising the rank shouldve been on update one

jagged nexus
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so the v1 rockets are bugged for me can't aim with that how am I supposed to get the last task of the mission?

marble phoenix
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i got to 50 in 50hrs

solid hinge
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Oh definitely it wouldn’t be hard to do @latent cairn

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Im tired of complaining. I'll take this excellent news and be pleased.

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@jagged nexus unselect and reselect

twilit pelican
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@eternal apex ttk was fine before they need to balance guns instead

jagged nexus
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doesn't work

opal fox
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@jagged nexus right click immediately when u see the phone

solid hinge
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I assume you mean like the bino is glitched right ?

dense bone
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in higher ttk only the smgs needed a buff to be balanced

neat flax
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notlikethis i just want my company coins. been stuck on 500-1000 coins because i keep upgrading specializations

dense bone
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now snipers are on the back burner

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and smgs are back to being eh

fading gyro
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Good.

latent cairn
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I want to be able to drink blue potions and have a shield Kappa

jagged nexus
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also my squadmate got the kills with the v1 but I still don't have the mask...

solid hinge
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too bad battlefield 1152 won’t come out

twilit pelican
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I think snipers are huge problem with bf games as no one is aggressive with them

solid hinge
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did they just say on reddit that we'd return to the old ttk tomorrow? LUL

fading gyro
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Snipers horrified

twilit pelican
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And bf is ptfo

dense bone
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even in higher ttk, i never worried about any snipers

marble phoenix
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snipers = food

latent cairn
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I am @twilit pelican :3

twilit pelican
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@latent cairn me too

marble phoenix
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they dont bother me more than support class with their lmg

twilit pelican
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@latent cairn god bless u

dense bone
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i mean, hardly anything bothered me

latent cairn
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@twilit pelican And you as well 😂 I get bored if I stay far back sniping

dense bone
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but im an outlier

opal fox
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@jagged nexus it took me 2 times as a squad leader for it to work even though took out 4-5 enemies per round with the v1

latent cairn
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@twilit pelican I get called a cod kid because I play aggressive with the sniper though 😢

twilit pelican
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@latent cairn that makes no sense

dense bone
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@latent cairn i mean.. thats fair

coarse spindle
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Running around with an m101 is all i do

twilit pelican
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Unless you 360

fading gyro
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@dense bone as a mediocre player, I noticed a pretty clear difference in the TTK.

solid hinge
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Snipers w/ iron sights 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

latent cairn
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@dense bone Ruuuude! Chag

fading gyro
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

coarse spindle
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Its a great gun im always able to topfrag with it

dense bone
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lol sorry man

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but thats definitely a cod thing

fading gyro
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Meh, it’s just something fun to do, no self worth coming from tryharding here

latent cairn
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Eh idk, I just help capping falgs

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flags

severe wraith
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Blesssssssss dice

fading gyro
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No judgement on those who do like that

severe wraith
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#MyTTK

dense bone
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@fading gyro ehh, it was minimal to me

opal fox
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Yeettk

dense bone
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back to body shots and low skill ceiling

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it might be nice to not feel like a god anymore since any average shot can kill you

opaque hinge
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ttk is going back

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hype

severe wraith
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We know nerd

solid hinge
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Welcome to the party 😂

latent cairn
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I would kill you easily @dense bone Takes just a single shot with my snipey staff Kappa

dense bone
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#doubt

latent cairn
dense bone
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whats your game name?

latent cairn
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You gonna check my stats? Chag

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Im scared now

dense bone
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lol im interested

latent cairn
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I havent checked for a long while

dense bone
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you can dm if youd like

latent cairn
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RealNethrex (yes my original name was stolen while I was Cooki3Cruzh3r)

dense bone
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hahah

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i should have done that

latent cairn
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😦

dense bone
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RealNyphon

opal fox
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I like cookies

latent cairn
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YAAG

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STOP THAT

solid hinge
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REJOICE BROTHERS

latent cairn
solid hinge
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THE TTK IS BEING REVERTED

dense bone
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your stats are solid

opaque hinge
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flex

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💪

dense bone
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definitely better than most here

solid hinge
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did we talk about ttk

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allready

latent cairn
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Yep Tuaam

solid hinge
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NO WAY!!!!!1!1!

dense bone
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@solid hinge we will talk about ttk for days

latent cairn
#

Old news 🤣

solid hinge
#

yes but they reverted it to the original faster one

dense bone
#

yes

latent cairn
dense bone
#

it will still be a topic for days

solid hinge
#

I am late

main grove
#

Just went on the practice range to see how much damage happens to certain parts of tanks and the targets are just big wooden boards in the shape of tanks

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ffs

solid hinge
#

Nah this is the first we’ve heard of it

main grove
#

Why can't the practice range be like BF1 incursions

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With bots that stand still

latent cairn
#

@dense bone You see on my stats I didnt get to bomb enough people before the update? Kappa

opaque hinge
latent cairn
#

They nerfed them before I could really rek ppl sad

dense bone
#

i only look at spm, kpm, win % and kdr

severe wraith
#

Nethrex is god himself

dense bone
#

the first 3 being the most important imo

twilit pelican
#

@dense bone what do you mainly play?

severe wraith
#

Medic

dense bone
#

@twilit pelican assualt and medic

severe wraith
#

he is mr medic

opaque hinge
#

SANITATER

dense bone
#

i went assault with new ttk since it favored accuracy, and smgs arent accurate

latent cairn
#

SANITÄTER

main grove
#

I try and play everything in the game equally

twilit pelican
#

See

main grove
#

No preference for any class

twilit pelican
#

I was leveling my classes to 20 when the ttk changex

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Changed

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And assault was the last

main grove
#

If I had to pick one then it'd be support I guess

twilit pelican
#

My kd was still going up with the new ttk

narrow moss
#

YAH THEY FIXED THE TTK

dense bone
#

higher ttk favors aim

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so youre aim is above average

twilit pelican
#

But the stg feels broken compared to the other ars

narrow moss
#

#NowMyTTK

dense bone
#

havent used the stg

solid hinge
#

BITTE HILF MIR SANITÄTER

dense bone
#

i have only used suomi and m1a1

main grove
#

I always think that good aim is better than snap reflexes

twilit pelican
#

I like the stg on semi auto more than automatic

crisp forge
#

so DICE got scared and is reverting the ttk changes?

main grove
#

My reflexes are terrible and I always lose in CQB

icy sluice
#

"got scared" 👀

twilit pelican
#

Oh i love the gewehr 1-5

dense bone
#

im good all around so idc

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@twilit pelican thats what im using next

twilit pelican
#

Easily my fav assault gun

dense bone
#

i just need to unlock it

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got my m1a1 all gold

crisp forge
#

@icy sluice yeah! got scared of all the unstopable fury of reddit!

dense bone
#

except its not dead

twilit pelican
#

@solid hingePogChamp

dense bone
#

less

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very much less

twilit pelican
#

Why are you here in the discussion if its dead?

dense bone
#

10k isnt dead though

twilit pelican
#

Then dont be negative

past turret
#

@crisp forge Dice didn't get scared, they just knew this decision was a loser. They wanted to try something new and it didn't work. It taught them a very harsh lesson and show that this community is the best. Love you all.

icy sluice
#

@crisp forge lol, that's just listening to feedback, and it wasn't just 'reddit'

crisp forge
#

I cant read so much!

dense bone
#

quake, hunt showdown, and other games only have 1-2k players

twilit pelican
#

Pc has the lowest player base in most bf games tho

solid hinge
#

Imagine laying bait just so you can illicit a reaction

dense bone
#

as long as i can get in a lobby fairly quick and its full idc, and thats happening

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so 🤷🏼 on it being dead

fading gyro
#

@dense bone any suggestions for getting better with the m1a1? So far the stg has been the only gun that felt effective for my play style.

twilit pelican
#

@solid hinge true i imagined him being a troll too

dense bone
#

@fading gyro go for headshots, if youre not going for headshots youll probably lose a lot of fights

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its decent

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its not dead

past turret
#

All I'm saying is, if we ripped into them for making a bad decision. let's not rip into and say they were scared when they make the right decision.

dense bone
#

^

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i didnt say that

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but saying its dead isnt true

past turret
#

It's not dead.

dense bone
#

all im saying is that bfv isnt dead

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its not

past turret
#

Okay

fading gyro
#

Not dead. @solid hinge you’re just wrong, that’s all.

dense bone
#

so dont try to twist it

twilit pelican
#

Very much off to a rocky start

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But not dead

azure vault
#

dead = i cant find a game because nobody is playing

crisp forge
#

not dead, just scared Kappa

dense bone
#

that still doesnt mean its dead...

solid hinge
#

harm u eu?

dense bone
#

once it gets close to 1k users on pc ill say its dead

past turret
#

I don't partake in discussions here much so I'm just going to wish you all a merry christmas and a happy new year now. Hope you all have a good time with your families and friends a like. Bye bye now.

azure vault
#

na

latent cairn
#

More players will play when the old TTK is back LUL

icy sluice
#

Not entirely

latent cairn
#

They didnt update yet no?

icy sluice
#

^

dense bone
#

@past turret merry christmas and happy new year to you too

latent cairn
#

Only announced it

dense bone
#

i really dont think old ttk will increase players

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you might get back a few disgruntled players

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but thats it

latent cairn
#

I use it as an excuse for not playing, but really it is more that I am busy with Uni

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fading gyro
#

Changing the TTK either way wasn’t going to affect player numbers in any real way, I don’t think.

dense bone
#

oh yea, walrus, spam the shit out of m1a1 as much as you can at any range, the recoil is super low

crisp forge
#

tbh It felt the same yeah

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maybe not the DMRs

dense bone
#

difference was small, and it gave reason to go for head shots, thats why i liked higher ttk

latent cairn
#

I always play 150-200 ms so I didnt like it Chag

dense bone
#

lower ttk just decrease skill ceiling

#

milsim?

latent cairn
dense bone
#

farm what and how?

#

what are milsim players?

latent cairn
#

That exists? thonk

dense bone
#

nvm figured it out

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would milsim players camp?

austere path
#

what is an "objective area"? is that what the squad leader tells you to do or something diferent

dense bone
#

it was easier to kill them in higher ttk..

blazing aspen
#

Does bf5 have stuff you can buy

latent cairn
#

They are not milsim players if they dont Nyphon Chag

blazing aspen
#

Microtransactions

latent cairn
#

Not yet Atte

blazing aspen
#

Okay

dense bone
#

@austere path just any area that you "capture"

plush flume
#

@austere path the objective area is where the flag is and it’s area that is white

fading gyro
#

@austere path area around a capture/defense point

austere path
#

hmm

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ok thanks

plush flume
#

I think we all want a Japanese school girl outfit

dense bone
#

i just want headshot emphasis

latent cairn
#

I'd rather have a katana and run at Nyphon while he sprays me down

fading gyro
#

That went neckbeard real quick

latent cairn
#

Only to find out we are same team

dense bone
#

and theres no tk

icy sluice
#

No ttk

plush flume
#

@fading gyro I think you’re just jealous I have a school girl outfit and you don’t

latent cairn
#

I am a good actor @dense bone Going prone blending in with the ground LUL

undone harbor
#

YEEEE CHECK THE TWITTER
happy comrade hours

marble phoenix
#

going prone in them 1v1 fire fights >>

dense bone
#

i want headhost emphasis

fading gyro
#

@plush flume smells like cheese

undone harbor
#

^

plush flume
#

@fading gyro sometimes... I DREAM about cheese

fading gyro
#

Same, curds few

dense bone
#

2 bullets to hs kill, 3 to kill body shots

fading gyro
#

Ftw*

dense bone
#

lame

undone harbor
#

anime skirts in bfv plz

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the faster ttk it launched with and that we are getting tomorrow is great

plush flume
#

Now

dense bone
#

doesnt mean that camping body shots has to be effective

plush flume
#

I don’t want to be that guy

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But I said so

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I said they would change it back

fading gyro
#

Lol low effort

dense bone
#

thats what low ttk mean, less effort to get kills

plush flume
#

Please please don’t need to applaud and cheer for me

solid hinge
#

👏👏👏👏 @plush flume

dense bone
#

bf3

plush flume
#

I’m really toxic today aren’t I aha

solid hinge
#

Bad Company 2 😭

latent cairn
#

BF 1942 Chag

solid hinge
#

wow loes

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you’re a low effort troll

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but that was just

#

non coherent

austere path
#

do stats reset seasonally like in other games?

#

bc2 rush mode was the best

solid hinge
#

vehicles don’t really matter huh ?

sage lagoon
#

I wish they brought the star system from bf1 back

azure vault
#

lol, BF1 light tank with shotgun rounds

solid hinge
#

it’s almost like you don’t remember the Hinds and Apaches that raped spawns quite like I do

austere path
#

holy sheeet

#

Battlefield V Letter to the Community - TTK Changes Reverting Tomorrow

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juust saw this now

sage lagoon
#

I just thought it was kind of cool how you could tell about how much you had used a weapon by the stars

solid hinge
#

20 hours lol

sage lagoon
#

Oh they’re reverting the ttk changes?

#

Cool

solid hinge
#

cool

dense bone
#

they are going to old ttk, no modes for new ttk

sage lagoon
#

Wat

#

Ew

solid hinge
#

ooooh

#

man im so hurt

azure vault
#

he aint wrong

sage lagoon
#

Ew

#

Mouse and keyboard ftw

rose yew
dense bone
#

we know

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...

sage lagoon
#

Yeah we heard

#

Baka

rose yew
#

I know you know

dense bone
#

jesus its gonna be this for the whole day huh?

opaque hinge
solid hinge
#

you can go jerk yourself to sleep tonight knowing you pulled one over on us console players

azure vault
#

those are the best wanks

sage lagoon
#

Some guy yesterday blamed his team loosing badly on ttk

dense bone
#

everyone logging in on disc for the first time "omg they changed ttk back

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@sage lagoon LOL

sage lagoon
#

Ikr

dense bone
#

yea if youre team is worse, thats why you lost

#

they have the same ttk xD

#

its hilarious when people say something about ttk like it only affects them

sage lagoon
#

Isn’t the problem ttd not ttk?

solid hinge
#

I value my option lol

opaque hinge
#

Yup

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Ttd is the issue

dense bone
#

ttd is a issue

sage lagoon
#

Cause it says you are dead way too early right?

dense bone
#

ttk is an issue depending what you want from the game

marble phoenix
#

ttd = waiting for revival?

solid hinge
#

show me the facts that BFV is dead

dense bone
#

time to death

#

the person getting shot, its their pov

solid hinge
#

comp teams

dense bone
#

ttk is the shooters pov

solid hinge
#

at a fucking grip

sage lagoon
#

The way ttd works now the game declares you dead before you should be

solid hinge
#

you said it yourself

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it’s an arcade shooter

sage lagoon
#

Right?

dense bone
#

the problem with ttd is that it sends the dmg in a packet, so youll just die instantly

solid hinge
#

Game has only been out for a month man

dense bone
#

theres no "im getting shot" you just die

solid hinge
#

Scrims could be a possibility in the future

sage lagoon
#

So basically full auto = shotgun but not really

dense bone
#

yea

#

if the packet favors you

#

i dont think its an all the time problem

#

but can happen

#

theres only been a few times i just drop due to non headshots

solid hinge
#

yeah alright

#

@solid hinge what do you think about them reverting to the old ttk?

sage lagoon
#

I don’t really experience the problem much because I use the drilling anyway

limber hedge
#

lmao now they're full-on reverting the TTK changes? Damage is done. I was hoping they'd just commit to it like Fallout76 and dig BFV into a grave

solid hinge
#

i drop frequently

#

ooh they're reverting?

dense bone
#

ye

potent galleon
#

Yes

potent galleon
#

starting tomorrow

#

finally

solid hinge
#

wow! they did nothing of use at all!

sage lagoon
#

I wish they would just fix the smgs and be done with it

solid hinge
#

what a waste of time

#

jesus

limber hedge
#

I wonder if Anthem will make up for their ME:Andromeda and BFV fuckups

dense bone
#

its the right call, they get to make most happy going back, and all the rest that dont care or didnt know will still be ignorant

solid hinge
#

lmao now they're full-on reverting the TTK changes? Damage is done. I was hoping they'd just commit to it like Fallout76 and dig BFV into a grave
you wanted the game to die?

#

it's the right call but it's irritating

#

stupid decision shouldn't have gone through in the first place

dense bone
#

its the right call, gotta please the casuals

solid hinge
#

this could've been avoided if there was CTE, no?

#

people are still riled up

main grove
#

Just went on a game of conquest core in twisted Steel and got destroyed by a team that was 90% assault

limber hedge
#

I'm already done with the game @solid hinge after those shenanigans, I wanted to atleast get some entertainment post-mortem.

solid hinge
#

yeah anthem is gonna be shit calling it now

#

balance guns rather than a total ttk overhaul

limber hedge
#

Be sure to buy the Deluxe Ultra Edition ™ of Anthem ™ it wont be like Andromeda ™ or BF:V ™ we promise.

solid hinge
#

biowaste is dead to me after canning mass effect o

#

we were supposed to get night siege in shanghai?!!!!

dense bone
#

@solid hinge but how do they balance snipers if they are easily outclassed by other guns with lower ttk?

solid hinge
#

lol, this is news to me tbh

#

now i'm sad over something that should've happened years ago, thanks

dense bone
#

higher ttk would help snipers and be easier to balance, more range to tune things

solid hinge
#

@dense bone decrease accuracy of those guns? Snipers shouldn't be winning close range battles

#

You can do some neat peeking with snipers at close range anyway

#

They don't feel weak to me

dense bone
#

i have never felt scared of any sniper in my games

icy sluice
#

33 damage for the m1911 I think

solid hinge
#

the revolver is a two shot at close range

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@solid hinge use the PO8

main grove
#

I can't stand conquest core not because of anything TTK related but due to the fact that it's a nesting ground for ultimate tryhard clan sweats

solid hinge
#

You're using the m1a1 it's like the anti sniper gun

dense bone
#

ther probably account for less than 5% of my deathsa

solid hinge
#

Yah it’s ass

#

yeah pistols are really bad here, but i feel like they're no different than bf3 or bf4 (desert eagle aside)

#

PO8 is great

#

bf1 had some strong pistols

fading gyro
#

@dense bone what’s your play style like?

solid hinge
#

Just like it was in BF1

azure vault
#

repeater pistol is way fun

solid hinge
#

The Luger

#

no

main grove
#

Bf1 pistols are generally the same as BFV if not worse due to random spread

solid hinge
#

Mmmm

#

i use the ruby for finishing people off and the revolver for being a solid secondary

dense bone
#

@fading gyro run and gun, cap everything, kill anyone getting in way of winning, cap everything

solid hinge
#

Tbh I would like my gasser back

dense bone
#

revive everyone i can

azure vault
#

bolt action revolver?

main grove
#

They just don't feel as powerful due to faster TTK

azure vault
#

lol

solid hinge
#

the damage falloff starts at like two metres

#

that's the biggest problem with the pistols

#

Obrez

crisp forge
#

just pick the ruby and spam! pew pew pew!

dense bone
#

if im assault get vehicles at every chance i can, if im medic revive and heal everyone i can

fading gyro
#

@dense bone I’ve been trying to play point defense, but the game seems to really punish that tactic

#

Usually as support

solid hinge
#

the revolver becomes a three shot in the distance of an average room

#

You get a lot of snipers plinking you as a support

dense bone
#

@fading gyro higher ttk wasnt favoring defensive play, you needed to be moving to be good

solid hinge
#

Bipods are sniper magnets

dense bone
#

especially if you were camping

#

unless if you could land all your shots and drop the person before they could react

#

idk how you play defenseive

fading gyro
#

I really enjoy the barrier building, not so much the sitting still

solid hinge
#

build defences and block off entrances that aren't covered by sniper fire

dense bone
#

i just run out to chokes and def from there

solid hinge
#

if you keep moving they generally have trouble headshotting you

#

and if you don't die instantly you hit the deck and heal

dense bone
#

dont def BY the point

#

its usually not good

#

read map and see where people are gonna come from

fading gyro
#

@dense bone yep, that’s been effective, but it doesn’t do much for defense points

solid hinge
#

depends how open it is

dense bone
#

get good choke flank and kill them

fading gyro
#

Yeah, seems everyone wants to just keep running from point to point trading points

solid hinge
#

you don't get much points for defence

dense bone
#

yea sadly thats what a lot do

fading gyro
#

That’s fun as assault

solid hinge
#

it's kind of essential but more boring

fading gyro
#

But I prefer support and building, so it’s hard to get a group to hold a point.

dense bone
#

im only with my "hive mind teammates" when they come to the point im already capping

solid hinge
#

if a point has an AA gun or something then you can still defend and be useful

marble phoenix
#

eveyrbody playstyle is different in BF

fading gyro
#

@solid hinge yeah, that’s probably my only real gripe—defense isn’t rewarded at all

marble phoenix
#

ive noticed

solid hinge
#

@fading gyro I feel the same way

marble phoenix
#

some really enjoying camping

dense bone
#

defense can win the game, win % is the end all stat

marble phoenix
#

some tried to be one man army

dense bone
#

if you are sad that you dont get more personal spm from defending, just think of the win

marble phoenix
#

but the best strat is to move as a unit

solid hinge
#

Played entire matches of conquest where my squad is the only one defending

#

It's hard to defend properly when there's so little of you

fading gyro
#

@dense bone See, winning is fun and all, but if I feel like I didn’t have much part in making that happen, it wasn’t really fun

dense bone
#

ill hold a point solo

marble phoenix
#

^^^^

#

or try to take it over

dense bone
#

yep

solid hinge
#

I can take a couple people but it's hard when there's a lot of them

#

and half your squad is off zerg rushing

dense bone
#

im effective solo, so i do things solo

solid hinge
#

id be comfortable with at least one teammate

dense bone
#

usually splits enemy team because they have to send multiple people at me

#

so that helps my team at another point

solid hinge
#

having one person as backup can over double your effectiveness

dense bone
#

i just hate when my teammates start running to my point when i have it under control

#

and they all leave the point they just took

blazing aspen
#

I got Battlefield 5 today

solid hinge
#

that's incredibly annoying

dense bone
#

so next thing i know i see 15 people running to my already captured point

#

and leaving the one they were defending..

solid hinge
#

heh

dense bone
#

i hate "hive mind players" that run as one massive group

#

youll literally see 20 people on 1 point..

solid hinge
#

someone suggested you get more points for capturing when you own less than half the points and more points for defending when you own over half the points

#

i had a match of Aerodome where me and one other guy were literally the only people who weren't attacking C

#

it was incredible

dense bone
#

but 680 is super high in this game

#

i didnt notice percentage

#

in bf1 i was at 3.5k spm

#

and this one im 630 or something

#

and thought i was shit

#

but 630 is like top 3%

#

bleh

#

i dont recon at all

#

i gotta be in the thick of i t

#

ew

#

aggressive medic for me

marble phoenix
#

assault class all day

dense bone
#

yea i like the federov

solid hinge
#

recon is fun..

abstract ibex
#

My lord. This recent game of devastation was exactly what the name says.

#

@solid hinge yes recon is so fun

solid hinge
#

It is!

dense bone
#

i never play snipers

#

in any game

abstract ibex
#

Snipers in this game feel smooth.

solid hinge
#

the m1a1 is basically a semi auto sniper

dense bone
#

m1a1 is my bae

marble phoenix
#

STG 44 for all yall

solid hinge
#

snipers are very solid in this I feel

dense bone
#

i was pushing 2 kills per min with m1a1

solid hinge
#

They're the only ones who can spot

#

Aiming is piss easy

#

Snipers have like no sway in this

marble phoenix
#

Stg 44 is very solid gun

#

all around

solid hinge
#

Or even much of an accuracy problem when you're moving

abstract ibex
#

True. And with the spotting in it for snipers you're good to go.

solid hinge
#

They feel wonderful

marble phoenix
#

i still spot outta habit of the previous games

solid hinge
#

The sniper spotting is extra goo

abstract ibex
#

Yeah I spot all the time

marble phoenix
#

the general area spot is still viable

solid hinge
#

I prefer pathfinder though

#

The area spot has helped me as a plane before!

#

A teammate pointed at a tank and i got the bomb

#

Sometimes it feels random in bfv

sleek trail
#

Are we getting a bigger patch this week?

solid hinge
#

Sweet dreams

leaden lily
#

@solid hinge shut of auto aim

solid hinge
#

What's the point of the kar?

#

Isn't it more useful to choose a faster sniper in case you miss the headshot

dense bone
#

idk stats on snipers

#

but it could have less fall off in dmg and bullet drop

#

faster velocity

wintry atlas
#

Is original ttk restoration real?

dense bone
#

yes

wintry atlas
#

What a world we live in

dense bone
#

a casual world

wintry atlas
#

#gamerzriseup

dense bone
#

where we want less aim involved in our game

wintry atlas
#

I would love less aim, mouse is hard

dense bone
#

as someone with good aim, i liked higher ttk

#

just showed how many people were bad at aiming

solid hinge
#

omg

wintry atlas
#

I’m just glad my Medic will be worth a little more

solid hinge
#

not all guns can aim in head all the time

wintry atlas
#

Unless aimbot is turned on

dense bone
#

@solid hinge no they cant, as a previous suomi main, i know about that

solid hinge
#

The damage falloff hasn't seemed to matter

#

Every kill has been a two shot

dense bone
#

doesnt mean the difference between body shots and headshots should be so miniscule

#

with lower ttk theres hardly a reason to go for headshots

wintry atlas
#

Are we talking about snipers?

dense bone
#

when body shots kill .3 seconds slower

solid hinge
#

the suomi wasn't exactly the most affected

wintry atlas
#

I guess all the casuals must’ve deleted the game if they’re restoring ttk

dense bone
#

suomi up close wasnt

#

it was absolute trash at any range though

#

it was rough to use with lower ttk

wintry atlas
#

Except face2face

dense bone
#

with higher ttk it was fucking horrid

#

im glad i finished my gold suomi before high ttk

wintry atlas
#

I just want my Tommy

#

1 level away

dense bone
#

it will be interesting to see if my kdr and kpm decrease with old ttk

solid hinge
#

it is... very hard to hit things with beyond melee range

fading gyro
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@wintry atlas I don’t think it has much to do with player base numbers at all—I think they’re seeing people get really loud about a product, and the SWBFII experience has taught them to be willing to walk back shit that pisses off the loud people

dense bone
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imo the problem is that they give weight to everyone equally

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so they are listening to a lot of "mediocre" players

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if this was a competitive game, that would be a sin

wintry atlas
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My original comment was a joke, but DICE made this decision based on “metrics and data” not because they care

dense bone
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but bfv is casual, so its whatever

wintry atlas
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Something told them this would benefit gameplay numbers

fading gyro
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Does a competitive scene mean a game sells well?

dense bone
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just depends on the game

wintry atlas
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When is it getting changed back?

dense bone
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tomrrow iirc

fading gyro
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Tomorrow at 7:00A EST

vague mesa
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ayyyy

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they cuked off

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old ttk

lucid violet
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miss me with theat new ttk

dense flint
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Shotgun still gets one shot kills

vague mesa
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i dont think the backlash made them think but the 40% player drop since implementation did

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any weapon gets one shot kills

lucid violet
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if the m30 didnt one shot no une would use it

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same for 12g

unborn blaze
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WE WON

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Yes!

pale spade
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What? About the TTK?

indigo harness
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Just because you win the first battle doesnt mean you win the war

glad wasp
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I guess we beat the dead horse so much it got up and started walking

abstract ibex
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Hopefully people are more happy about Dice and the game itself now. To listen to the community and change an update in a week to me seems like an awesome job from all the backlash.

fast grove
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Dude.. i finally managed to win grand operation in the netherlands

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After that match my screen turn black, for atleast 15 minutes

worn cave
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praise the lord, what a happy reddit update 🙌

fast grove
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I alt F4éd, now I have to redo it

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FUcking dice

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Fuck this game and the devs

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Betafield

unborn blaze
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What?

abstract ibex
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@worn cave was in the middle of a game when I saw that

worn cave
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#myttk ? 😄

abstract ibex
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@worn cave the update and everything

wild nymph
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Whats the gold stg assignments

north wind
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Hopefully they don't sneak more huge changes in like they did with TTK and then only respond when they get called out over it. I'm glad they reverted it but sheesh the way they implemented something of that magnitude overnight is troublesome

unborn blaze
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Probably a better hashtag

light dust
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Thank the Lord they’re changing the TTK back.

abstract ibex
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Yeah

sleek tartan
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so, we won guys.

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they reverting the TTK change

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how does victory feel?

wild nymph
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no i want new one back

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Jk

light dust
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Dan got a ton of Reddit Gold.

unborn blaze
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So, guys, we did it

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We got the TTK reverted

wild nymph
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no

lucid violet
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too bad for the players who enjoyed the new ttk

wild nymph
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I like old ttk

unborn blaze
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Eh, now they'll complain

sleek tartan
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I really feel happy about it. I don't want DICE to be a slave of the "mass" will though, but this was kind of a no brainer. Someone agrees?

unborn blaze
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^

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They will not

sleek tartan
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Yeah. Never. Actually by making a change you might make someone like what before he didn't, and viceversa.

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But I believe the community was mostly unified.

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Still, don't want DICE to just do what """""we""""" say

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but I do feel this one as my own.

lucid violet
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just created such unnecessary drama now

unborn blaze
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There were the people who liked it

light dust
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Just call it Conquest Casual, then everyone can be happy.

lucid violet
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only hurted the game evén more

glossy locust
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what can we complain about now?

unborn blaze
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"Hurted"

light dust
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^

sleek tartan
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that hurted my eyes

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😛

unborn blaze
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The lack of customization

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Remember BF4?

light dust
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Like, why do we only have three scopes per gun?

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I need more.

unborn blaze
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How you could have any camo on a tank?

glossy locust
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yeah i long for bf4 each weapon had 400 thousand attachments, I want to put a 20x scope on my shotgun and equip it with ultra uber exploding flashbang rounds

unborn blaze
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No matter how obscene?

light dust
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Sure, the Holo is probably the best, but I still want more.

sleek tartan
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We can still complain about the general state of the game, lack of contents, bugs, lack of optimization, MMO progress components that many dislike, cluttered UI and weird menus.

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Can we unify on that too??

old karma
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I don't think the issue that they changed the TTK, it was that they did it in the incorrect manner. The blanket reduction in weapon damage ruined the weapon balance and screwed with the attrition system. If they want to change the TTK they have to go in and edit every single weapons values so that they're all balanced

unborn blaze
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^

sleek tartan
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Agree

old karma
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I wouldnt have been so annoyed otherwise

unborn blaze
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Yep

sleek tartan
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They could have done something with a slow time to kill and make it good, with maybe bigger magazines, and a per weapon tunning

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but not like this

glossy locust
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main problem with it was the main problem still exists you get one framed by an LMG it happens even more often now it seems

old karma
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That and the fact they put all the changes onto the live game without using a test server first

lucid violet
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nah put it on live servers without warning

worn cave
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haha y'all liked #MyTTK I guess

sleek tartan
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@glossy locust they have put efforts to test netcode very well now

light dust
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Now just nerf the Semi-Auto’s Recoil, and the Fire Rate of the M1A1, Decrease the Damage Slightly of the MMG’s, and fix the stupid M30 Drilling, then we’re good.

sleek tartan
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with real world scenarios

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I believe we are going to se progress, I'm sad that we have to do with the game already launched.

light dust
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At least fix the M30 Drilling, the MG 42, and the M30 Drilling.

sleek tartan
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I believe one more DLC for BF1, tunning supresion to make it more soft and some extra hype could have been better if later they provided a more solid game.

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(with BFV)

light dust
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Also, the 1-5 could use a bit of adjustment.

worn cave
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it's very admirable that they put out as much comms with the community as they do now, it's obviously a double-edged sword when we quote things they said and throw them back in their faces while REE'ing

light dust
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Now the problem is, things like the Semi-Auto’s aren’t as bad on Consoles, so they should be making adjustments accordingly.

sleek tartan
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I want to believe that BFV will be somewhat like BF4. With a bad launch, but in the end, a game we all loved I believe.

crisp forge
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anyone who tried the stuka here? you prefer the one with the AT cannon or the one with the 1ton bomb?

light dust
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Also, putting Arras, Rotterdam, and Devastation back to back would be nice.

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That way, I could just leave after the last one is done 😝.

lucid violet
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will custom servers even be a thing in this game?

light dust
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Hopefully.

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Some 24/7 servers would be fun.

dense bone
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you gotta have bad stuff to enjoy the good

glossy locust
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custom servers are definitely missed

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especially the ones with longer games

lunar fractal
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Old ttk coming back!!

dense bone
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gross

cerulean finch
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yeah boy

dusky saffron
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ayy

old karma
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As dumb as it sounds, im not a fan of giving server owners the ability to put a single map on endless rotation. Mostly because in smaller countries like Australia it basically kills the game in the future due to their being only like 2 servers live and both are perpetual locker or shanghai

orchid iris
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you end up with a game being like coutner strike where 99% of the time it's only played on de_dust2

glossy locust
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not so much 24/7 servers just a bit longer

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games are like 30 minutes

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now

soft storm
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24/7 all metro no shotguns or c4 kill admin = ban no appeal

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that doesnt tickle your fancy?

wild nymph
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When is opd ttk update?

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Old

dense bone
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tomorrow

wild nymph
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Aww