That in on itself is a testament of how alive this shit is
#battlefield-legacy-titles
opaque cipher
solid hinge
Exactly
amber notch
This tbh
split shadow
What else is new?
solid hinge
I get 190ms to EUR, I get taht Latency shit that BF1 employeed
opaque cipher
Otherwise I wouldn’t have taken up tanker
amber notch
@solid hinge ok?
solid hinge
So me and all the other South Africans that bought the game wouldve wasted our money
spice flower
just go back to playing bf1... it's a better game 😃
opaque cipher
I’m a bad pilot 
opaque cipher
PS
opaque cipher
Why did you get PS role tho
solid hinge
Idk
amber notch
I see hundreds and thousands of servers full of players
amber notch
opaque cipher
Also if asia is alive any server can be alive
amber notch
@opaque cipher not wrong
solid hinge
Anyhoo
opaque cipher
cold trail
Anyone been playing Red Dead Redemption 2?
amber notch
OCE servers are full, and that’s saying something
solid hinge
But seriously though
All of you must see that this shit is going to kill the community
amber notch
Average I see 19 full oce servers
solid hinge
Incase you have been living under a rock
cold trail
Only reason I ask is because a couple of friends got it and were getting menu system issues similar to what they'd encountered in BFV.
amber notch
That’s lots
solid hinge
AFRICA IS A SHITHOLE
cold trail
Where it would be doing something, but wouldn't allow selections.
amber notch
solid hinge
GPU prices are 20% higher than in OCE
cold trail
Which makes me wonder if it's a console problem.
amber notch
@solid hinge how much is a gpu there
solid hinge
GTX 1080 8GB goes for $1300
amber notch
I can assure you it’s more expensive here seeming as we pay more gst than any country in the world
LOL
A 1080 here is $1500
opaque cipher
Kek
amber notch
For no reason
solid hinge
A 1.2MBps line in ZA is $100
solid hinge
Still cheaper than ZA
solid hinge
wtf i literally just died to 2 dynamite by 1 infantry man whilst in a tiger and didnt hear him at all in first person
Guess iM moving to US in order to play a fucking game because some entitled European prick is too shit at a game and needs more time to Mouse Button 1 someone
Honestly
opaque cipher
Bruh buy from NZ @amber notch
solid hinge
Who in the fuck cares about Noobs
solid hinge
Ofcourse theyre going to be terrible at the game
na is worse than europe
Why tf cater to them, cater to the guy whos bought the last 4 games including whatever the fuck Hradline was
opaque cipher
I too fondly remember when Battlefield is more about git gud and not cater to beginners that quit the game after a one time play
solid hinge
EXACTLY
red pulsar
lol
opaque cipher
How the time has changed 
amber notch
Yikes
red pulsar
Someone at the top is incompetent is the issue
opaque cipher
Gotta retain those players
solid hinge
Fucking Christ man, the game was marketed as a hardcore team based game where tactics can win you the game
Not whatever the litteral fuck this 7 BTK cancer shit is
there is zero tactics in this game i agree
amber notch
@solid hinge you need to relax.
red pulsar
Thankfully the US Government has caught on. They are investigating the loot box bs too
opaque cipher
The tactic is to locate firehose again
placid quarry
In that case you might want a timeout
split shadow
POW, no.
solid hinge
I just cannot get over how fucking incompetent DICE are playing this
split shadow
DICE needs to stop self-immolating.
opaque cipher
Just get some popcorns
red pulsar
I don't think it's DICE I think it's EA
opaque cipher
Lay back
solid hinge
Might be
split shadow
Divine, I disagree.
EA isn't the one monitoring "their numbers"
And making changes based off that.
There's no way. EA wants sales. They push sales.
They don't care for the balance post-launch unless it affects that.
amber notch
DICE are going in a different direction they have said this a few times
spice flower
are there only four (4!) scout guns in the entire game?
amber notch
solid hinge
EA is slowly turning me into a Communist
spice flower
or am i missing anythgin?
split shadow
DICE is a bunch of idiots. 😆
icy sluice
I got a triple headshot kill with the STG44, so I feel pretty good
amber notch
@icy sluice nice
split shadow
🤔
opaque cipher
This isn’t their discord tho
split shadow
solid hinge
people who know what is good in games dont wanna make it, they just wanna play it so we r stuck playing shitty games
amber notch
solid hinge
Ive been playing Regular all week, finally see a Core game in ZA, play it, get called a Hacker because all I do is tap fire with the STG44 annd get Headshots all the time
That feel when DICE turned me into a God
red pulsar
Game should be community run too
split shadow
🤔
icy sluice
Also, I noticed that the Pickaxe is the weapon to do the headbutting
opaque cipher
Do you see some of the earlier posts
solid hinge
Every major decision should come fown to an ingame Poll
Thats Democracy
icy sluice
I keep headbutting people because I only use the pickaxe
amber notch
Lol
solid hinge
I love Democracy
icy sluice
Also, here's the clip of that STG44 Triple Headshot to save my teammate
https://streamable.com/o2n4t
red pulsar
What doesn't make sense is a change that no one asked for, especially if it's a minority that actually does
solid hinge
I love the Republic
amber notch
Everyday we have a TTK discussion
solid hinge
they should just have one guy deciding what the game is doing but have him open minded to ideas and just keep responding to peoples views but not stupidly
amber notch
opaque cipher
Mostly from semi or medic players tbh @amber notch
red pulsar
@amber notch The Battlefield section of YouTube is in flames lol
solid hinge
Talking about how fucken bad it is
amber notch
split shadow
Then sit down!
split shadow
Clearly thousands do.
red pulsar
I don't mind what wasn't broken
opaque cipher
Tbh this TTK is good for some
amber notch
^
red pulsar
That some being a minority
opaque cipher
Like supports and some assaults
amber notch
It’s not bad
solid hinge
Who, the Disabled?
echo gazelle
When you see "beloved" tubers like Westie complaining, you must know you're doing something wrong.
red pulsar
It's terrible
opaque cipher
But medics
red pulsar
A majority hate it so it is bad
solid hinge
just give the game time to develop and it will be good, this is what you get with a live service
split shadow
Perfect way to fix medics: Give them bolt-action rifles with no scopes.
solid hinge
DICE doesnt want to split the community
Splits the community
red pulsar
Then maybe they need to slam the "BETA" tag on it
split shadow
Fair and balanced way of fixing their range deficiencies, but adds a new weakness -- as intended with medic weapons.
opaque cipher
rifle for medic
echo gazelle
Just open CTE and test these changes there
split shadow
Bolt-action with no scope.
split shadow
No SLR
red pulsar
Then it should be selling for $30 not $60
split shadow
Well you're a Mod.
amber notch
Yikes
opaque cipher
The TTK is ok
icy sluice
If you dislike the new TTK, there is core
solid hinge
Wed flame you to all hell, if you werent an Admin 
split shadow
Not a good answer to a problem that shouldn't exist, Sanitater.
red pulsar
Core is retardation at its peak
opaque cipher
Core more like level 50 @icy sluice
amber notch
@split shadow keep comments like that to yourself please.
split shadow
If the majority of the playerbase hates the new TTK guess what
Undo the new TTK
😢 but your feelings
solid hinge
I hate the TTK, but the Saffas dont know what Core is
split shadow
how will I hurt them
solid hinge
They barely follow Youtube or Reddit
They literally had no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned the TTK yesterday
What chance does Core have in ZA hey?
amber notch
If you want to push peoples buttons you can have an hour timeout if you would like to follow this path.
split shadow
Over one fellatio comment 🙄
red pulsar
I was nearly going to buy BF V from redbox today but this just ruined it for me
opaque cipher
Play support @red pulsar
solid hinge
stop wasting ur life typing on here it achieves nothing
opaque cipher
Ez fix until they decide to do something
solid hinge
Im a pretty tolerant guy, its why Im still in ZA, but this shit right here, wity the TTK is push it for me
red pulsar
@solid hinge You are right, I'll just not buy it like millions of others as evidenced by their sales numbers
split shadow
It seems to achieve something if I get threatened to be muted for an hour. 🤷
amber notch
Because of your comments? Our rules specifically state no nsfw content.
icy sluice
They do follow reddit actually
red pulsar
And anyways, they're the ones that told us not to buy it, remember?
icy sluice
Maybe not with a fucking magnifying glass but they still do
split shadow
Vulgarity =/= NSFW
solid hinge
can buy it when its 9 quid like battlefield 1 and enjoy it for 100 hours or so
but its just annoying waiting for that
split shadow
Your feeelings =/= The work environment
solid hinge
@icy sluice A small amount of them yeah, most just play when they have time
echo gazelle
Just a quick word, matchmaking isn't working for Core Conquest on PS4, I need to search manually for servers.
red pulsar
😂
solid hinge
i only play this game for the vehicle combat anyway
opaque cipher
Advance search is pretty borked too currently
spice flower
lol. i did a refund of BFV and choose "it's too buggy". i got an error message that something went wrong.... the irony...
solid hinge
not gonna buy another access month for a while
Menu Menu Mneu, Click Click Click, only in Battlefield
amber notch
@spice flower 
red pulsar
@spice flower Did you ask Kumar from EA support for assistance yet?
spice flower
eh? 😛
solid hinge
In any case, I bought it through EA access a week before it came out
Only spent like $10 or some shit on it
solid hinge
Hopefully when I get back from Vacation DICE wouldve realized in what a world of shit theyve put themselves in
merry ivy
This game is only complete when we get dinosaurs with frickin laser beams attached to their heads
DICE pls
spice flower
No, didn't ask for support. My computer runs BF1 greatbut BFV just feels choopy, at times. Mostly it's fine, but it just drops. I don't really see much improvement over bf1 after playing for about two hours.
amber notch
Because it’s glitched, you have asked so many times.
spice flower
So it's a refund and sticking with bf1
split shadow
And I'm going to keep pointing it out.
spice flower
See absolutely no reason to spend money on it
amber notch
Report it to the support page
split shadow
Would that do a damn thing more than bitching here or on Reddit would? I'm guessing it won't.
solid hinge
The game ha sso much potential
split shadow
So I'll stick to convenience.
amber notch
Constantly saying the same thing when you are well aware of why it’s not working isn’t going to help.
spice flower
yes. new maps it the only reason for me to go to bfv, really
solid hinge
Like evry Battlefield before it
opaque cipher
Yeah Imma put it on the backburner after I’m done with the vehicles and tides of war stuff
amber notch
Contact support, they will fix your issue
opaque cipher
Those gun dogtags tho
split shadow
No they won't.
red pulsar
Contacting support will not fix your issue lol
solid hinge
This shit with the TTK broke my back
split shadow
Lmao
opaque cipher
Maybe I’ll master my VGO
amber notch
They fixed my issue with the lvl 20 assignments, they gave them to me, because mine were bugged
spice flower
support can't just magically optimize the game and make it work on my computer like bf1 did 😃
amber notch
So therefore they do help, you just need to try
red pulsar
Kumar over at EA support asked me if I had another Xbox I could try it on.
amber notch
This is in regards to the v1 rocket kills not working
red pulsar
If I turned it off and back on
split shadow
Your sample size that you're basing this claim of "Support being helpful" is very small, POW.
opaque cipher
Don’t tell them that you lost progress of something like “kill while attacking/defending”
amber notch
They will probably refresh the assignment
latent merlin
i have a question, guys
kindred orchid
Hmm.
amber notch
@opaque cipher LoL
split shadow
I've completed it seven times over.
opaque cipher
Like legit
solid hinge
@split shadow try and click tides of war, click the mission you cant do, and it will come up with a gamemode for you to play. click it and try and do it in that game mode
latent merlin
have you ever called in a V1 and it never showed up?
amber notch
Then contact support.
soft storm
Yea
opaque cipher
I was doing my VGO proficiency
amber notch
@split shadow
split shadow
H3ph0 I appreciate it but I've done that.
soft storm
Just like my dad
split shadow
@amber notch
latent merlin
o h
opaque cipher
Lost my kills while defending
solid hinge
Once
opaque cipher
They refuse to restore my progress
Would try it next time tbh
See how it works out
soft storm
Don’t contact support right now, they will literally tell you they are too busy to deal with you
amber notch
soft storm
It’s happened twice yesterday to my friend
solid hinge
Wonder Why.TTK
latent merlin
oof
red pulsar
POW did they send you to try to defend them
split shadow
I'm going to believe that off-handedly and without verifying your claim, Lawand, because that sounds just like them.
amber notch
soft storm
The thing is, they’re usually very helpful
opaque cipher
They’re really good at copying and pasting
But yeah they actually sort your shit out
soft storm
I straight up like EA support because I usually get my stuff fixed
opaque cipher
When they can anyways
solid hinge
The ones in ZA are stereotypical indian tech support
amber notch
They will fix the issue, just try
solid hinge
ITS HELL
opaque cipher
Unlike normal support desks
soft storm
But seriously there is so much wrong with BFV that they can’t fix anything
In terms of support
latent merlin
will they fix the issue of a V1 never showing up
solid hinge
Youre Spot on btw
split shadow
I play Medic.
amber notch
Complaining it’s not working over and over and not contacting support isn’t helping you in the slightest, it’s just making you look silly for not contacting the given tools they have provided you to fix the issue for you
red pulsar
What if those tools do not work
split shadow
Despite how great the core of BFV is DICE is running this like they don't have more than 5 brain cells.
red pulsar
And what if Kumar tells me the issue is I lack a legitimate copy of the game
split shadow
There has been huge problems affecting giant swathes of players every single patch.
And with every patch there are new bugs.
red pulsar
You remind me of EA support actually, POW
solid hinge
[Laughs in Fallout 76]
split shadow
And instead of actually, you know...
WORKING ON THE BUGS
They change the TTK based off "numbers from their servers"???
opaque cipher
Idk but my support experience is actually decent
amber notch
^
opaque cipher
Takes a while to reply though
split shadow
Because people play the game, then log off and don't come back?
I'll take misidentifying our problems for $500.
split shadow
Well I think they're great!
That's cool, POW.
Real cool.
Do you talk to other BFV regulars?
dawn mango
I used ea support last night and they fixed my problem i like 15
amber notch
@split shadow have you contacted support about your V1 kills?
split shadow
You seem really bent on this support thing.
It's like...
Instead of listening to my criticism... You're reading the numbers instead?
red pulsar
@split shadow He or she works for support I guarantee
amber notch
I’ll take that as a no.
opaque cipher
But that’s the thing though
split shadow
I specifically told you I haven't, POW.
opaque cipher
Blizzard support are just a bunch of guys with no idea what they’re doing
split shadow
Stop trying to be clever you're not great at it, homie.
opaque cipher
Microsoft support doesn’t use the product
amber notch
Then contact them, they will fix the issue
split shadow
Are you gonna say anything new?
opaque cipher
EA support actually sorts shit out directly
split shadow
I feel like I'm talking to Support right now.
amber notch
Not until you get the support help to fix your v1 kills
dawn mango
lol
split shadow
Like ONE dude did, guy.
opaque cipher
Support is probably easy tbh
solid hinge
well i think i am officially the worst player in bf - i just came on a server, stole a guys squad leader place with 55k points, and placed my rocket on top of a mountain by accident when i clipped it when looking where to place
:yikes:
amber notch
Wouldn’t mind that tbh
opaque cipher
You pull up the game data and just input copy pasted messages
amber notch
Working for support
Would love to be yelled at by all the community members for one thing
opaque cipher
It’s like that one Star Bucks controversy
split shadow
I'm not complaining about one thing lmao
opaque cipher
Everyone comes in and waves a sign at the cashier’s face
solid hinge
I asked tech support for assistance in stopping the whole My Documents Battlefield V issue, didnt help me at all, had to figure it out myself
solid hinge
EA ZA Support
split shadow
How about doxxing their customers that was real cool
solid hinge
Good for you
opaque cipher
Try US support
solid hinge
No seriously
amber notch
Oof
amber notch
Heard US isn’t the best
opaque cipher
It’s all copy pasted messages
opaque cipher
But they work their shit out
Every support you contact is the typical Indian guy/gal name
solid hinge
Anyone who wouldnt want to live in AUS is either a retard or a Kiwi mate
opaque cipher
Adds to the experience
solid hinge
Mate Mate Mate
amber notch
Yikes.
amber notch
@dark pilot Please keep comments like that to yourself.
NSFW content isn’t allowed here on the server.
dark pilot
lol but he can call people retards, alright
glad lily
Buff tanks instead
solid hinge
Does having a bayonet have any downsides?
glad lily
Tanks in beta felt just right, not broken op and not underpowered with all restrictions like limited ammo and turret speed
amber notch
If you don’t kill anyone with the charge you are seriously penalised for it
If you don’t kill anyone with the charge you are seriously penalised for it
Oof
That lag
glad lily
Then DICE fucked it up
split shadow
There's no indicator on the kill log for bayo kills - just a long empty space.
solid hinge
That's all? No penalties to the gun or anything?
solid hinge
Sweet
soft storm
And now even Jackfrags is shitting on the game
split shadow
I love bayonets.
solid hinge
it seems like a far better option than long range zeroing
split shadow
Jackfrags has been pooping on it.
glad lily
Why did they nerf Stukas 37mm though 
soft storm
He was loving it
solid hinge
Were the stuka tank cannons actually viable
amber notch
Splash damage was insane
solid hinge
Oh so the 37mm plane guns get splash damage
split shadow
I mean it's a 37mm cannon.
solid hinge
I see
opaque cipher
37mm needs a buff
solid hinge
The 37mm cannon on tanks shoots marshmellows
glad lily
Isn't that the point?
opaque cipher
Mosquito’s 20mms are way better
glad lily
You trade bombs for cannon
opaque cipher
And they say it’s intended for light armor and infantry
opaque cipher
How do we fix the paratrooper blenheim
solid hinge
give it spotting scope and paradrop in the same tree
solid hinge
it has literally nothing going for it other than paradrop
what do u mean we never intended to split the community but literally have a gamemode with old ttk and new ttk
No it has like.. 8 25kg bombs or something
opaque cipher
Christ
amber notch
16-50kg bombs
solid hinge
8 bombs and one shit machine gun
amber notch
opaque cipher
4x 1000 ton
amber notch
Oh wait, that’s basically the 1000kg bomb
amber notch
Lol
opaque cipher
And have a huge blast that flattens buildings
amber notch
Don’t know
solid hinge
It should really knock over infantry
amber notch
Don’t use planes
opaque cipher
Rip
tribal ledge
Is conquest Core the old TTK?
amber notch
It’s annoying to be hit by one
solid hinge
I imagine it's great for tank destroying
amber notch
@tribal ledge Yes
tribal ledge
Or is the TTK even faster than before?
rose pilot
Nah same as before
compact oxide
solid hinge
The mosquito seems way shitter than the Stukas
little zenith
fuckin TTK dude
little zenith
tis ruining everything
solid hinge
It's got no tail gunner
amber notch
Mhmm
opaque cipher
It’s a hidden gem
opaque cipher
2x20mm kill armor better than anything else
solid hinge
That fat shit can out turn a bf109?
amber notch
It gets 4 250kg bombs
amber notch
The main machinegun is good
opaque cipher
Those 20mms are king
solid hinge
The guns aren't bad but i have a hard time imagining it out turns the spitfires
amber notch
Tanks it annoying
opaque cipher
Those 20mms have splash damage
amber notch
It can outturn the b109
opaque cipher
Lots of splash
amber notch
@opaque cipher 😩😩
opaque cipher
You fire it at tanks, infantry, planes
solid hinge
it can seriously out turn the fighters??
amber notch
Don’t tell them
opaque cipher
Everything dies to it
solid hinge
What's the fuckin point in having a fighter
amber notch
opaque cipher
I must spread the word
opaque cipher
Lead people away from the Spitfire noob trap
amber notch
Lol
solid hinge
Once more I wish the specs had stats on them
opaque cipher
Tbh it’s fine
Because it has low velocity
So you have to third person against air
But against ground it’s godly
amber notch
It’s so loud
opaque cipher
Like pom pom gun in BF1
opaque cipher
JU88’s downward guns actually have fastest plane to plane TTK iirc
This is like a trend with Dice
solid hinge
The waffenbehalter thing?
cloud fable
@opaque cipher VA does
opaque cipher
Stuff they say are good against infantry are good against the exact opposite
And vice versa
cloud fable
you can 100-0 any plane in one over heat
opaque cipher
What’s VA
cloud fable
VA spitfire
solid hinge
The AP rounds for tanks do negligible extra damage and lose like 90% of their damage on a glancing shot
opaque cipher
But I have backward gun
cloud fable
it's a fighter, fam
cloud fable
lmao...
opaque cipher
You stall and you hit the back seat
amber notch
Why dice
solid hinge
penetrates the weaker side armour but because it's at the slightest angle it just bounces off
opaque cipher
They fly past you and you melt them with the waffen thingies
cloud fable
then plane rolls up-right/left and kills you after the roll
amber notch
Flakpanzer is fun
solid hinge
Jackfrags uploads a vid
Explains how the Core playlists will split the community and kill BFV
opaque cipher
True
opaque cipher
But good pilots are rare
solid hinge
Flakpanzer seems shit in comparison to the Valentine
Watch evereyone agree with him now
opaque cipher
Everyone just tails me wanting my ass
amber notch
So like never
opaque cipher
And I ruin them with back seat MG
amber notch
Once a plane gets behind you that’s it
Just give up
Or five to the ground and stall
Dive
cloud fable
once two planes get behind you, that's it give up*
opaque cipher
@solid hinge depends tbh
amber notch
OOF
cloud fable
you have 0% chance on winning if the players aren't clueless
opaque cipher
Do you want versatile gun of the Valentine or the single sided crushing feeling of the flakpanzer against planes
cloud fable
that's what the systems now enables
gg dice 😦
oh and the MAA has 800m range too :p
solid hinge
@opaque cipher the first time i got in a Valentine i killed a tiger with it
amber notch
Lol
solid hinge
then scared off everything in the air on my half of the map
opaque cipher
Valentine’s main gun is actually really good
amber notch
This
opaque cipher
Way better than flakpanzer’s
solid hinge
It has a lot bigger impact than a flakpanzer
opaque cipher
But flakpanzer just melts planes
opaque cipher
Forget AA guns
Flakpanzer on incendiary is king
Valentine fares better against ground target tho
So you have a good pick between the two
Can always upgrade to a single 20mm on the flakpanzer if you want better damage against infantry and tanks
But the 4x are pretty satisfying
solid hinge
The incendiary rounds do look like they'd be neat
The biggest problem i have with the AA guns is how often it feels like the shots just blow up before they reach the plane
opaque cipher
Hitting planes with incendiary is basically letting your fighters take care of them if you don’t kill them in one go
Oh yeah they have a range limit
opaque cipher
About 60% the length of panzerstorm
solid hinge
The plane is flying directly towards me
And I'm shooting it
And like one in three shots count as damage
solid hinge
If a fighter flies directly towards me and I'm shooting the entire time i shouldn't be doing 37 damage
west plinth
🆗 🆒
opaque cipher
Like some fly too high or too low and detonate out of the explosion radius
dusky saffron
opaque cipher
Do you have the three 20mm for the Valentine btw @solid hinge
Wondering how those are
dark pilot
Lmao, but my response to the guy shitting on Australia gets taken down in half a second
opaque cipher
Mods are dead or something
solid hinge
Is there a way to invirt flight?
opaque cipher
<@&174949751152836608> bruh
solid hinge
Ok thanks
cold trail
Yes?
soft storm
Bruh
dark pilot
Hurb
opaque cipher
Not sure who deleted it
full nimbus
@opaque cipher How can we help you?
opaque cipher
Someone posted something
dark pilot
Someone made a naughty post but it was already deleted apparently
wary mason
#281717460208713728 mods
opaque cipher
Deleted now
wary mason
Already taken care
cold trail
@opaque cipher we’re always watching. 😉
dark pilot
^
wary mason
Id call that a quick action myself
full nimbus
2 People you can never outrun, 1. Thots and 2. Mods
west plinth
Snuggly always lurking in the shadows with the gulag-hammer
trail flame
full nimbus
Snuggle? Gulag?
opaque cipher
full nimbus
full nimbus
was busy in R6 😦
merry ivy
All the Shermans in Last Tiger should have been Easy Eight’s
that would end in a few seconds
opaque cipher
They better give me the top rocket when they bring Sherman into the game
merry ivy
ah yes, the Calliope
solid hinge
just give the brits the damn firefly
merry ivy
YES
solid hinge
nobody uses td's anyways and i feel like you dont need 3 heavy tanks in total as brit
merry ivy
best and most unbiased review of the Firefly
absolutely well informed and brilliant, yessss
zealous stone
So I love Battlefield and I was extremely looking forward to V despite EA's blatant dick moves towards their own players. I was just about to get it when I heard they've changed the TTK after saying they wont, or at least, will put it on the test servers beforehand. I dont know if I can support all of this bullshit. Is it still worth it to get the game right now or should I wait until they change it back, if ever
pliant geyser
I would imagine thats the big benefit the tiger has over the other tanks
solid hinge
Can we talk about how bad the company coin acquisition is?
merry ivy
The 88 is a high velocity gun indeed
pliant geyser
Tiger 2 had a much faster more powerful 88
merry ivy
but its firepower is nothing to the Bob Semple, the true unrivaled equalizer of the world
pliant geyser
Tiger 1s gun should function like a sniper rifle imo, very little drop high retention of damage at long range but it moves slow and turret is slow
so if infantry get within range its dead
solid hinge
is there an option to make revive a HOLD E because i cancel so many revives
hexed meteor
why does medic always have the worst weapons
solid hinge
i really wonder waht would happen if they just made headshots a one shot kill and body shots like 3 or 4 shots like r6
regal sapphire
Bf1 medic was fine 🤔
kindred orchid
Bc2 medic had the best weapon.
wooden barn
you remember aek?
pliant geyser
BC2 had carbines right
kindred orchid
Lmg
kindred orchid
Yeah.
pliant geyser
Engineer had carbines
pliant geyser
Yea that just seems weird
kindred orchid
Recon had c4
kindred orchid
Yeah.
I think I liked 2142's class system, I think it was Assault, Engineer, Support, and Recon.
Although each class had only 3 weapons.
pliant geyser
I miss bf2s varied classes
I think we can achieve variety with the bf5 system.
Treat the combat roles like subclasses that dramatically different from each other
livid sinew
kindred orchid
Assault had 3 different assault rifles, medic crate or grenade launcher.
pliant geyser
Recon should have sticky dynamite
opaque hinge
Recon op
kindred orchid
Recon had semi auto sniper, bolt action, and smg along with dynamite.
pliant geyser
Recon- Commando class- Only supressed smgs, Sticky dynamite
opaque hinge
Recon should have semi auto sniper with 1 bullet only nothing else
pliant geyser
no sniper rifles f
kindred orchid
Yeah.
I was most hype for that.
Then they took it away.
So I'm stuck run and gun with model 8.
pliant geyser
see snuggle
Thats how it should be.
combat roles restrict and add stuff
Recon is the base class- Combat roles are the sub class.
kindred orchid
Although bc2 had run and gun recons as well, they had a fully auto sniper rifle.
opaque hinge
1 recon per team limit
pliant geyser
Recon should be a mix of 3 classes from the past.
pliant geyser
- Sniper- Basic long range sniper with sniper rifles and high powered scopes.
- Airsupport/Artillery Spotter - SLRS- max 3x scope- Spotting scope can ask Airplanes to drop bombs in specific spots can guide in bombs that are dropped at high altitude at the general area. Same for artillery when its added .
- Commando/Special forces - Limited to Silenced SMGS and maybe the delisle rifle aka silenced .45 acp rifle - Sticky dynamite -Spawn beacon.
1 recon class, 3 super different playstyles
Same could be done for all the other classes
kindred orchid
Could you imagine how many bullets they'd make the suppressed smg required to kill someone if they followed the current model?
Since there would be a nerf to damage for a silenced weapon.
Otherwise everyone's going to scream op.
pliant geyser
There shouldn't be a nerf to silenced weapons outside of lower muzzle velocities
but compared to other smgs it would be negligible.
kindred orchid
I'm speaking as far as balance goes.
pliant geyser
Regular SMG would be around 1100 FPS vs 900 on the silenced gun
they could do the same damage imo
I honestly don't know what people are talking about with weak smgs in the new update.
I am destroying people with them aiming for the head and hip shooting
kindred orchid
They're not weak. But you need to play at the right range.
If you're trying to hit someone far away, it's going to be a bad time.
pliant geyser
True
Honestly thats fine , smgs fire pistol rounds
50m to 100m is the max effective range
pliant geyser
how do you guys fly on pc ?
I cant do it with a mouse and keyboard I get destroyed
kindred orchid
I bound pulling up to space and pull down to ctrl.
pliant geyser
joe what does the E have that the current ones dont have
midnight nimbus
a lot of good PC pilots use a controller
and just use the mouse when you need to precision aim
pliant geyser
im going to try to use a controller
Tank reticles/AT reticles arent precise enough for me
zealous stone
Remember in bc2 when recon had could call in fucking missile strikes?
kindred orchid
Was that a Recon thing or a Squad Leader thing?
I feel like you had to do something to get the mortars.
zealous stone
Fairly certain that was recon but I may be wrong
This was a long time ago so what am I to say
zealous stone
Im gonna ask again because no one really replied to me earlier
zealous stone
So I love Battlefield and I was extremely looking forward to V despite EA's blatant dick moves towards their own players. I was just about to get it when I heard they've changed the TTK after saying they wont, or at least, will put it on the test servers beforehand. I dont know if I can support all of this bullshit. Is it still worth it to get the game right now or should I wait until they change it back, if ever
solid hinge
wait
kindred orchid
It depends really, the TTK isn't absolutely game breaking to me as a Battlefield Veteran.
kindred orchid
It's still there in the form of Core servers.
solid hinge
i only play core
zealous stone
ah right I forgot about those
just sounds like splitting the community and confusing new players and trying to hide the fact they havent fixed ttd yet to me
solid hinge
but most core players better
kindred orchid
Well, if you call trying to appease EVERYONE splitting the community, this is where we're at.
zealous stone
Ill give it a week or two before making up my mind, this is just a lot of bullshit that Im not sure I want to support
solid hinge
class balance is off. maps are average. general lack of content.
coral fiber
Yes
solid hinge
still fun though
kindred orchid
The game is still good, the changes aren't as night/day as some would have you believe. But, there is a lack of content, and some of the maps aren't that great.
coral fiber
Gameplay WAS fun until the patch
solid hinge
True
kindred orchid
Bigger maps may make the changes to TTK more drastic as people used to fight at long range as if they were bolt action snipers and performing better.
coral fiber
But im more of a good pilot than an infantry guy
pliant geyser
cholesteral that was a support thing
it was a small radio that called a mortar strike
I really hope DICE does not add any more magical artillery or mortar strikes or bombs
zealous stone
what about the binoculars, fairly certain the mortar was recon
midnight nimbus
"magical"
wat?
fleet moth
it was recon
merry ivy
why is the MP40 so bad when it comes to recoil
pliant geyser
Every bomb / artillery etc that lands on bf games I believe should be player aimed.
fleet moth
or whatever class had the sniper
midnight nimbus
fine, make it spawn out of uncap then
merry ivy
its a peashooter already
pliant geyser
or give a player a mortar and have the recon ask for the fire
coral fiber
Does anyone actually dive bomb with the stuka
midnight nimbus
being able to call in mortars without having to sit at a mortar is great
merry ivy
I do
coral fiber
It's so satisfying
pliant geyser
naw I like player controlled stuff makes it feel less cheap
zealous stone
@pliant geyser oh hell yeah
midnight nimbus
or if you make a mortar a gadget, make it work like the infiltrator flare in BF1
pliant geyser
BH1 mortar was trash though
midnight nimbus
feeling cheap is just perception
BF1 infiltrator flare is near perfect indirect fire design
pliant geyser
Clicking on a map and magically hiting it is cheap lame stuff
I got better KHT
Devs should look to the past more.
midnight nimbus
that's why I'm saying infiltrator flare
works closer to IRL mortars
first round is an illumination round, so you know where you're shooting
then the rest come down with increasing speed
illumination round gives enemies to chance to get out
pliant geyser
feral horizon
Isn't PIAT similar to the mortar with minimap aiming?
pliant geyser
well kinda but not really
soft storm
Yes
pliant geyser
its closer to the Carl gustav imo from bc2
soft storm
It’s still shitty but it does the job
pliant geyser
works better as a bunker buster, strong point softener
kindred orchid
I feel like with the changes to Panzerfaust, Piat has been more reliable against tanks and infantry.
pliant geyser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUiFH1G8FIM = Ideal artillery system for BF5
Relies on teamwork for accurate hits.
otherwise its pretty harmless
kindred orchid
There is artillery fire in this game.
soft storm
Nah the panzerfaust still wrecks
kindred orchid
It's just not easily seen or used.
midnight nimbus
relies on teamwork 🤮
midnight nimbus
SOFLAM is an example of good design
great on its own
extremely good with teamwork
pliant geyser
IT should rely on teamwork.
kindred orchid
I have been getting 37 damage on tanks consistently with the PIAT.
midnight nimbus
don't make a gadget reliant on blueberries just to be useful
pliant geyser
Artillery is far too powerful to be easy to use.
kindred orchid
Where as with Panzer, I get glancing blows out the wazzoo.
midnight nimbus
hence, illumination round
fleet moth
lol you still have stuff like the soflam
maiden steppe
making teamwork a minimum requirement to function
pliant geyser
illumination round was too easy to use
fleet moth
its on bf4
pliant geyser
clicking on a map and having it hit there is too easy
midnight nimbus
teamwork isn't a checklist
fleet moth
its not like you cant play it
kindred orchid
I feel like Artillery should be a Squad Leader reinforcement.
pliant geyser
Hence why artillery was such an annoyance in bf1
regal sapphire
Yeah I do like 20 damage with the Panzerfaust after the nerf, they took it too far
kindred orchid
Maybe have it at like 20k or 30k points.
regal sapphire
From a side shot
midnight nimbus
illumination round is an indirect nerf to artillery
gives enemies to chance to get out
maiden steppe
i mean, tanks were paper-skinned already so panzerfaust nerf is good
soft storm
Yo, if I was smart I would’ve gotten a dedicated squad in BF4 for soflamming shit
maiden steppe
they don't feel like the final bosses that they were in BF1 at launch
soft storm
Cause damn the soflam wrecks
cosmic wharf
Oh crap
pliant geyser
Soflam was great
cosmic wharf
Mortars
regal sapphire
Panzerfaust was completely fine pre-nerf
cosmic wharf
We should be getting them soon
pliant geyser
Stuff that require teamwork should be super powerful
soft storm
I do wish we get dedicated mortar emplacements
midnight nimbus
SOFLAM is the best example of how teamwork should work in BF
soft storm
Especially if we get the Ardennes
pliant geyser
Yea mortars should be a fortification
kindred orchid
I think they shouldn't have done upwards to 70 damage.
midnight nimbus
very useful on its own, extremely powerful as a team
soft storm
Ok get this, dedicated mortar emplacements that are built by supports
midnight nimbus
instead we just get attrition
soft storm
Redone spot and the support shoots
pliant geyser
like real artillery it should be useless own its own
soft storm
That’s teamwork and it’s fine because it’s two pronged
midnight nimbus
except it's a video game
pliant geyser
what good is a mortar or a howitzer for hitting what you dont even know exists
kindred orchid
But they did a double nerf to Panzer, reduction of damage and the change of how fast you can shoot the Panzerfaust after pulling it out.
pliant geyser
or cant see
midnight nimbus
making something useless on its own just makes it ignored
soft storm
Yet people used the mortar before
pliant geyser
Not every gameplay mechanic needs to be used by everyone
midnight nimbus
if it's gonna be ignored, just remove it from the game entirely
pliant geyser
they wont
pliant geyser
like every other thing you will find some players who learn it and use it to great effect
midnight nimbus
1906 was fine
pliant geyser
yet complicated enough to not be cheap
midnight nimbus
it's there for people who can aim
cosmic wharf
I would love a spotter gadget
maiden steppe
yeah 1906 was technically one of the best weapons for bursting 1-2 people down fast at range
midnight nimbus
make a mortar gadget decent on its own, and powerful with a friendly scout
maiden steppe
it just had a slightly higher skill floor for usage compared to other weapons
kindred orchid
There is a spotter gadget.
kindred orchid
Oh?