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solid hinge
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Sweden amirite

regal sapphire
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You know what? I like the new TTK idea

solid hinge
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Just to spite me Im sure

regal sapphire
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No, I forgot how annoying getting crossmapped was

ripe epoch
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Ttk now has cost us a nice population drop.

merry ivy
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snipers are still just as effective

solid hinge
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Dont run in the fucking open like a brainlet

regal sapphire
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I wasnt.

solid hinge
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Learn what cover is

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EZ PZ

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Lemmon Squuezy

jovial forge
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Can't get mad if someone had the proper aim to get the shot on you

solid hinge
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Exactly

merry ivy
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maybe they’re hopelessly trying to play as medic and can’t fight back at long range

solid hinge
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I was thinking of a cold war gone hot game where nuclear weapons are used but the ramifications are so bad they never use another one ever again

regal sapphire
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I literally wasn't. I was inside a house in C rotterdam

solid hinge
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the impossible

ripe epoch
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U can get the proper shot now but not the kill

jovial forge
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in a house that had windows most likely

regal sapphire
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In C

jovial forge
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and there was a angle they got you from

regal sapphire
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You know where C is in rotterdam?

merry ivy
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zomg someone killed you with a gun nerf all guns to 1 damage

regal sapphire
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Yeah, a bullshit angle and I had no chance to shoot them back

jovial forge
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then back off

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you get hit, dont move forward

regal sapphire
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I was already dead

ripe epoch
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I live in C on rodderdam

solid hinge
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@merry ivy So DICE then decides to pin the medi down flat on its stomach and ferosiusly rape the shit out of it by introducking teh new TTK

jovial forge
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Well since you died, that should tell you that spot wasnt as safe*

merry ivy
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Medic: can I get a carbine please?

DICE: Oh, I forgot about you. No, you haven’t suffered enough. moves closer

Medic: screams in 12 damage

ripe epoch
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I want to move into the 3rd floor flat on C.

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Nice views

solid hinge
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DICE Bill Clinton'd the Medic Class in BFV

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Im honetsly up for a 1-4 shot TTK in BFV

merry ivy
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Medic: okay, can I please get some anti tank equipment

DICE: Good god, you have explosives at all? That can’t do, all you get from now on is decoys and lures

ripe epoch
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Anyone want a El elimine bf42 map remake?

merry ivy
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Medic: why do we have so many bullets for our secondaries but barely any for our SMGs?

DICE: Fair point, you should only have 1 magazine for both guns

solid hinge
dense bone
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just had my first bf crash

solid hinge
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Get them when playing on Ultra

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But my PC for some reason really dislike me

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Dislikes

dense bone
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that sucks

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thankfully i was just in menu looking at assignments and not in game

solid hinge
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GTX 1080, i7-8700K, 16GB DDR4 RAM @ 3000MHz

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Fuck you for wanting to play on Ultra

merry ivy
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I think by the end of BFV’s life cycle, the Medic won’t even have guns and their revives will take just as long as squad revives

solid hinge
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What are you retarded

merry ivy
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and their smokes are replaced with flashbangs

solid hinge
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Lol

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Ye

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Imagine the Assault in BF4, with Flashbangs, Smokes and the UMP 9 in like 7 different flavours, thats teh Medic class in BFV

merry ivy
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no, but nerf their defibs

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and no medical crate AOE

solid hinge
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You have to resupply it

merry ivy
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also the UMP9 has a decent recoil pattern

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BFV medic guns are either peashooters or shaking around harder than a Cromwell at full speed scaling Gibraltar

solid hinge
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lol

maiden steppe
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played around more and fuck this new TTK

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lewis gun is a peashooter at its intended range

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this change is only good if you're a Suomi or MMG main

pliant geyser
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its fine

solid hinge
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Exactly

pliant geyser
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Im not having any issues with the lewis gun

solid hinge
maiden steppe
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I'm capable of tracking people just fine with the Lewis gun, but it feels so awful to put a headshot and so many torso shots just to have 'em go back in cover and heal

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and before you tell me to "just headshot"

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try to do this at a range where horizontal recoil and spread actually matters

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it doesn't matter in close range

regal sapphire
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I like the idea of the reduced ttk, but they went too far on certain guns

viscid cypress
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Not that I don't agree, but I far prefer the Bren gun for actual accuracy.

solid hinge
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They went to far when the ignored Players' outcries for them to keep it

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But that Esports player just really want to rek more people with teh Suomi

pliant geyser
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I can agree with that coutin

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some guns needed a ttk change some didnt

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mostly assault guns did

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lmgs and mmgs were fine

viscid cypress
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Yeah all the outcries huh?
For every one person I see that likes the new TTK, there are 20 that don't

pliant geyser
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medic guns needed a boost

solid hinge
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The STG44 got outdamaged by everything

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Have it be like it was in the Open Beta

pliant geyser
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Vocal Minority Korey

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Those posting on forums and on reddit dont make up most players

viscid cypress
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Go to hell

pliant geyser
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its the truth

regal sapphire
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If you got outdamaged by it you are bad

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STG was completely fine

pliant geyser
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we have no way of knowing how these changes are making most of the players feel only people that will know is dice by looking at the new data

viscid cypress
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The people that actually talk about the game, are the ones that care about it, are the ones that should be catered to.

pliant geyser
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mainly average playtime seessions

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Ideally that is how it should work but its not how the world works korey

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you have to account for the entire playerbase

solid hinge
pliant geyser
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I highly doubt the slowly diminishing playerbase was due to the ttk though

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I would assume its lack of content

solid hinge
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Is it hard breathing anmd typing at teh same time?

wild oxide
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That's enough of the mocking South African.

solid hinge
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Fine

regal sapphire
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I honestly wish they just find a common place for both, ttk was too fast but now its too slow

viscid cypress
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Simple, put a survey in game, then you have a definitive answer

solid hinge
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Its super hard though

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Doing that

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Finding a middle ground

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Could take months

viscid cypress
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Of course you'll have to run it for a month for the casuals that don't actually play the game.

solid hinge
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Bring back the old TTK and work on a new one on some sorta test server

regal sapphire
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That's why I think that they should've tackled bigger bugs first

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Then mess with the TTk

solid hinge
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YES

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YEEEES

pliant geyser
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I have this weird feeling that most peoples ttk complaints are related to the netcode.

regal sapphire
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It's a joke that people still don't get currency

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In level 50

solid hinge
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they fixed it i thought?

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DICC wanted to fix the TTK by increasing it to see if that fixed the TTD

regal sapphire
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And yeah, fix Netcode shit too

pliant geyser
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Netcode is pretty bad I think I constantly die behind cover.

solid hinge
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It didnt

wild oxide
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They keep trying to fix it, but it hasn't worked yet

regal sapphire
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I still don't get Coins in level 50

solid hinge
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Exactly

wild oxide
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There's been like 2 patches for it

solid hinge
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I get that Red Server Icon constantly on ZA servers

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Its pretty bad

pliant geyser
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I thought I was the only one

regal sapphire
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Zuid afrika?

solid hinge
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Maybe they should start there

pliant geyser
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I get a whole ton of different icons though dont know what half of them are.

solid hinge
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Ja

wild oxide
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Fixing the netcode would honestly solve a ton of problems

regal sapphire
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Nice

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Yeah exactly

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Even the devs agree on twitter

pliant geyser
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A dev

solid hinge
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gibonez whats up with you man

regal sapphire
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Multiple devs

pliant geyser
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im just playing devils advocate.

solid hinge
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Look at the TTK

pliant geyser
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saying the ttk situation is really not as bad as some make it seem.

solid hinge
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LOOK HOW THE MASSACRED MY TTK

pliant geyser
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haha

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For example remember Bad Company 2 ?

regal sapphire
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The new TTK needs balancing

pliant geyser
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it had a higher ttk than even this last patch

regal sapphire
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And testing

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But it's a good idea

pliant geyser
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and people were fine with it

solid hinge
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"im just playing devils advocate./trying to be as edgy as possible"

midnight nimbus
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so TTK 1.0 BF1 basically?

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bc that worked so well /s

solid hinge
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hehe

regal sapphire
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BF4 had a higher ttk than BF5 and it's one of the most remarked games of the series, but TTD worked lol

midnight nimbus
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no it didn't lol

solid hinge
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Exactly

regal sapphire
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Better than BF5, right now I mean

solid hinge
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Whens teh last time you played BF4

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Takes liek 3 bullets to kill

regal sapphire
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Not on launch ofc

midnight nimbus
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BF4 has the second lowest TTK in the series

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on launch it was even faster

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bc it had BF3 damage models

regal sapphire
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What's the fastest?

midnight nimbus
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BF3

solid hinge
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AEK is like the Open Beta STG44

midnight nimbus
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BFH launch of you wanna count it

regal sapphire
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Aek was cancer

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Like jesus

midnight nimbus
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no open beta STG 44 is basically SAR-21 lol

solid hinge
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Yes

midnight nimbus
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with a 4BTK min

solid hinge
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And?

midnight nimbus
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SAR-21 is one of the slowest guns in BF4

solid hinge
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Just fucken get to cover

regal sapphire
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I liked that BF5 doesn't have any of these cancer guns, they all feel good

solid hinge
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Heal

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Peak

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Kill

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EZ

pliant geyser
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hmmmm

regal sapphire
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Except a million variables that go with that too lol

pliant geyser
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BF5s cancer guns havent come out yet

solid hinge
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Like the horrible Netcode

pliant geyser
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Yea netcode fixing should be priority #1

midnight nimbus
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BFV already has cancer elements, it's just not in the guns

solid hinge
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Priority 1 should be teh Double Loading Icon

pliant geyser
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pretty sure once thats fixed even if they keep the ttk people will not complain

solid hinge
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That shit gives me the kanker

regal sapphire
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Like Kht?

midnight nimbus
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soldier visibility

pliant geyser
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Yea dude what is up with that double loading icon

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does that mean it freezes ?

regal sapphire
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True

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Lol

midnight nimbus
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if you abuse it it's cancer, and it's easy to accidentally abuse

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BFV is Where's Waldo: the FPS

solid hinge
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#1 Double Loading Icon
#2 Anti Aliasing Off setting
#3 Netcode(Basically Number 1 because #1 and #2 are super easy fixes)

midnight nimbus
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UI should be close to the top of the list, but from what I've been told it's impossible to fix

solid hinge
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You fix soldier visiblty by removing Anti Aliasing

midnight nimbus
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and adding in slight soldier glow

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like BF always did

solid hinge
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Lamp Posts become invisible if you go back far enough because of the Anti Aliasing

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That shits cancer

pliant geyser
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I don't have issues finding soldiers

solid hinge
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Me neither

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Excapt on Fjell

pliant geyser
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I am playing on a bigger screen than most people though

midnight nimbus
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except in BFV instead of soldier glow they decided to make everything else blurrier than the soldiers

pliant geyser
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27 inch vs your typical 24

solid hinge
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Niccc

pliant geyser
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KHT part of the problem is not lack of soldier glow but DICE's insistance on stupid graphical effects like dust or snow constantly kicking up from surfaces

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every daam map

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there is either paper, or snow, or something just randomly flying in the air for no reason

regal sapphire
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I play Verdun, and that game doesn't have any type of dorito

wild oxide
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Wow that guy is really well hidden, probably doesn't help that Twitter compresses images, but still pretty hard to see

regal sapphire
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I don't have problems seeing people there

solid hinge
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I dont use the Rare Customization for my Soldier, I pick Camofalge over it

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I hide in place sight on Fjell

pliant geyser
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its the graphical touches always adds coutin

midnight nimbus
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yeah, that's what happens when you let artists design the game first

pliant geyser
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Fjell is the worst map in the game

regal sapphire
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Yeah I know

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It's just that I'm used to it

solid hinge
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I like it

midnight nimbus
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Fjell is one of the worst maps in BF, period

regal sapphire
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I like fjell ffs

pliant geyser
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yea in BF history

solid hinge
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I like all the maps except Aero

pliant geyser
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i would say

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Aero is good in breakthrough

solid hinge
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And only in Breakthrough

dense bone
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yep, all my games have been roughly 2.5-3 kdr

pliant geyser
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yea since the ttk patch my kdr went up

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weird

regal sapphire
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I sent you a friend invite btw Doodie head

wild oxide
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I'm just glad that Camos actually make a visible difference, cause in BF4 the camos were so washed out. The only ones you really noticed was the DICE LA camo.

solid hinge
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Yeah your soldier was white as #fffffff

dense bone
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accepted

regal sapphire
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I just need the rocket strike for the helmet now

solid hinge
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Its real good looking

regal sapphire
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I did it all today

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It really isnt lol

solid hinge
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Wear with with Feiled Threat Torso and Silver Dagger/Hades pants*********************

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Look awesome

midnight nimbus
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BF1 visibility already makes me sad, and it's still pretty playable

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BFV visibility is worse than ArmA

solid hinge
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OMG DUDE YES

regal sapphire
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Actually.. I think Verdun is pretty piss poor too

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Let me get a screenshot

wild oxide
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Ah good old Arma, walk a KM or two just to get taken out by an enemy who had been camping in the same spot for like 3 hours because the Game Master hates you.

solid hinge
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Yeah

midnight nimbus
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mfw BFV visibility is worse than actual milsims

maiden steppe
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yeah, that was an extremely painful 30-5 with the Lewis Gun

solid hinge
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I loved playing Zeus in Arma 3

maiden steppe
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can't wait for Breakthrough Core to come

regal sapphire
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Still 30-5 lol

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That's 7 k/d?

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Not shabby

maiden steppe
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it's 6, but my KPM wasn't ideal

regal sapphire
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Oh yeah 6

solid hinge
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Prettymuch the same KD I had before TTK

maiden steppe
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I was getting paranoid about cheeky bastards back-capping us

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so I camped the same spot for a while

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then when I leave it's when 5 people start zerging for the back-cap

pliant geyser
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If DICE tones down all the silly visual effects like snow kicking up randomly, or the confettii or the dust peoples complaints of visibility would disappear.

solid hinge
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1 Word, MG42 on a hill or Building

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EZ

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PZ

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holy shit is the m1a1 good

wild oxide
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I'm a dumbass who charges points without checking my corners so my KD is not great. Like 1.5 or something

pliant geyser
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im not talking about from explosions

maiden steppe
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MMGs are ideal for this new TTK because of their extremely high rate of fire

solid hinge
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Well tahst more than 1 word, but MG42 is still god tier for zerging

maiden steppe
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it's prolly what I should've been using

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because this Lewis Gun feels goddamn awful with 7 BTK

solid hinge
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Ye

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Ye

maiden steppe
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if I didn't care about actually winning the match I would've tried to farm kills and leave another flag defenseless

midnight nimbus
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bring back the days when 800x600 still has very playable visibility

maiden steppe
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do people still do that thing where they play at 4:3 resolution to make player models look wider

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afaik only CS:GO players do this

solid hinge
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Check in Screenshots btw, thats what my Assault lookslike

pliant geyser
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anyone here want free AC oddyssey Google is giving it away for free right now

solid hinge
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I wish theyd make 720p 240hz Monitors

maiden steppe
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that's a pretty juicy looking Assault

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with the tachanka helmet

solid hinge
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Ye

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Heinrich is a Farm Boy who was drafted into the Wehrmacht, he keeps to himself

deep ether
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When you get your first kill with the flare(0_0)

solid hinge
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But in a combat situation where its life or death, he is the most ferocius mf on the battlefield

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Gunning down people left and right

regal sapphire
solid hinge
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Does shit youd pray to forget everynight

regal sapphire
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Visiblity in verdun

merry ivy
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why are the main servers being used for testing

solid hinge
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Its terrible I know

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No idea

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DICC aint teh brightest with BFV

merry ivy
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maybe they should test how the playerbase would react to having all guns being replaced with nerf and super soakers

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but its just a test so its justified

solid hinge
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I think they thought that BFV wouldnt need a Test Server because everything is server based now

regal sapphire
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Sights in Verdun are another fuck you lol

merry ivy
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they’re trying reaaaaaaally fucking hard to shake off as many people as possible from this game

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if I didn’t know better I’d say its an experiment to see how badly you can fuck up a game’s release

lilac crag
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so

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that rocket thing has to be on conquest

regal sapphire
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TTK is not that bad :P

merry ivy
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its bad because barely anyone asked for it and they only seem to be doubling down on it by giving everyone who doesn’t like it a watered down hardcore

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great for people who tolerate it, I guess, but whoops for trying to not divide the playerbase

regal sapphire
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It's not unplayable though

merry ivy
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no, its not unplayable

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that’s not my point

solid hinge
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Its just frustrating

regal sapphire
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I actually had alot of fun playing it earlier today

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With the G43 and the Selbstlader

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Medic is completely unbalanced

merry ivy
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G43 is a 4 bullet kill at range

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its painful

solid hinge
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Thats cancer

regal sapphire
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Yeah, and its still not bad

merry ivy
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seriously?

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4 bullets for a 10 round mag?!?!

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AT 300 RPM

solid hinge
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Isnt teh G43 a 5 mag gun

merry ivy
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IN SEMI AUTO

maiden steppe
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TTK is horribad if you're used to ranged weapons like Lewis, Bren, any Recon SLR, etc.

regal sapphire
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Yeah, I got like 50-10 games with it

solid hinge
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Arent there just 5 bullets in a G43

merry ivy
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no its 10

regal sapphire
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No 10

solid hinge
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aH

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Ah

regal sapphire
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And its 4 bullets after 30m

merry ivy
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I found most of the time the enemy could simply walk away unharmed

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because all I could do is take away a quarter at a time

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maybe if I typed out “pew pew” in chat I would do slightly more damage

regal sapphire
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I had no problem taking people out

merry ivy
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it still doesn’t get to the point

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WHY did they do this

regal sapphire
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Christmas sales

merry ivy
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oh yeah, the backlash they got is gonna absolutely help sales

regal sapphire
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The normal average Joe doesn't care about TTK though

merry ivy
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so they try to make their game easier to boost sales

regal sapphire
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We were talking about that earlier

merry ivy
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because fuck a challenging game and having to learn how to play

regal sapphire
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And that's why its for christmas sales?

merry ivy
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next all guns take 30 mins to kill an enemy because dying in an FPS is frustrating

regal sapphire
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The old one was not perfect, this one is not perfect

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An in between would be perfect

merry ivy
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the old one was at least slightly BALANCED

regal sapphire
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Because the new one was rushed for christmas

pliant geyser
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There are far bigger problems in BF 5 than TTK, mainly unbalanced classes and lack of content..

regal sapphire
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Yep

merry ivy
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yeah so they should remove all the guns

pliant geyser
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Assault for instance needs a stupid nerf

regal sapphire
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Nah

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Classes in the old ttk were fine

pliant geyser
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they werent

merry ivy
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because new players are spawning in and getting killed, its unacceptable, remove all weapons and churn will decrease

maiden steppe
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I even thought Medic was fine with the old TTK after they buffed the SMGs

regal sapphire
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They were

pliant geyser
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Assault needs some of his toys taken away and given to other classes.

maiden steppe
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MP40 is the worst weapon to use for close range as Medic and yet I still absolutely shredded with it

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taking 1v2's with both people facing me

worthy tiger
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I have done the Tidse of war V1/ Jb-2 rocket thing twice and it did not count

maiden steppe
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now MP40/Sten are the worst choices. Not enough DPS to chunk through bullet sponges.

pliant geyser
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sticky nades = go to recon, piat = go to support

merry ivy
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this should be a nice game about building snowmen and saying nice things, getting killed is frustrating and leads to increased player churn

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remove all damage

kindred orchid
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Give support infinite rocket ammo, yes.

maiden steppe
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how did BF3/4 ever become so popular when the TTK was low in those games lol

regal sapphire
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You know you're just being petty at this point :P

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Because the Net code worked properly

maiden steppe
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maybe it's because people are actually willing to improve, to learn from their mistakes

merry ivy
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the netcode is the fucking problem

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not the TTK

maiden steppe
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so I call BS on DICE's assumptions that dying too fast is causing player churn

merry ivy
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how is this fine

regal sapphire
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Both are

kindred orchid
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Just remember that Assault and medic were once the same class for a time.

dark pilot
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Netcode was so bad in 3 and 4

merry ivy
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still getting one hit to the toe by a STEN at 100 metres and yet I have to fire 4 shots with a 10 round semi auto to get a kill

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very cool

maiden steppe
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Remember the M16A3/AEK assault-medic

limber hedge
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Not fire 4 shots , you gotta land 4 shots lmao

regal sapphire
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It's still better than BF5s

merry ivy
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yeah fair point

kindred orchid
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Recon should have dynamite though.

maiden steppe
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AEK is basically the Automatico of BF4, except you have to ADS.

regal sapphire
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What's the problem with hitting now

merry ivy
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just gotta hope they don’t like, move out of the way

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or blow the bullet away

kindred orchid
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That much I agree.

midnight nimbus
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give semis back to medic 😤

maiden steppe
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tbh yeah it would be totally fine if Medics at least got some carbine weapons

kindred orchid
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Right now, a 2 throwing knife recon is pretty depressing.

limber hedge
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I had a lot of fun in BFV unexpectedly. I didn’t expect it to last a week the way I churn through games. Sad to see how it turned out. Doubt it’s the devs fault just the suits looking for more money on the holidays.

maiden steppe
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or even just semi-autos

merry ivy
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now now, medics can’t be viable, nerf their SMGs to half damage, revive as long as squad revive, and smokes replaced with flashbangs

pliant geyser
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It amazes me that people complain that the Tiger tank is too slow...

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does that look fast to yall

kindred orchid
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Is that full speed?

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Looks like they're just driving around slowly to show off.

dense bone
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yep, if i hard started with game with this ttk my kd would be closer to 3

merry ivy
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Tiger 1 is not slow, but decent speed is achieved on flat well made roads

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they can move surprisingly fast

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the tank triangle is a flawed concept

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just because it has good armour and gun does not mean it has to be a slow tank

dense bone
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but it would probably be broken otherwise

worthy tiger
merry ivy
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also just because a tank has no armour and barely any firepower does not mean its fast

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cough bob semple

amber notch
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yes

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its a bug

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im sure they are aware of it

worthy tiger
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ok

kindred orchid
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I don't have any issues with faster moving tanks, maybe if their reverse speeds were the current slow speeds.

amber notch
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just went 105 with the 1-5

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that gun

merry ivy
#

I hope the Bob Semple is never added, it would break the game

amber notch
#

is op

merry ivy
#

Bob Semple would be better than a V-1

kindred orchid
#

Semi or auto version?

amber notch
#

semi

kindred orchid
#

Heard it's arguably worse than the m1a1?

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Or just as good?

merry ivy
#

M1A1 is ugly

sharp merlin
#

Wait so now there's going to be

  1. Core
  2. Softcore
  3. Hardcore
merry ivy
#

who knows at this point

sharp merlin
#

Talk about splitting your playerbase :/

amber notch
#

been using the semi, its really good

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And i hate those types of weapons

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honestly

dense bone
#

m1a1 is solid af

kindred orchid
#

Hmm.

dense bone
#

im probably averaging 2.5 kdr with new ttk

amber notch
regal sapphire
#

M1A1 is pretty OP by itself

kindred orchid
#

I was really against using the m1a1 for awhile cause it seemed like everyone and their mama was using it.

merry ivy
#

im still around my 4-5 kd average but I find the slow TTK frustratng

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I just want that enemy to die damnit

amber notch
#

I dont want to use the m1a1

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tbh

merry ivy
#

aaaaaaaaa

amber notch
#

i dont really like it

dense bone
#

i always liked fast rof semis, headshot machines

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and now that ttk is higher, i just have more time to line it up

kindred orchid
#

There's some nostalgia feeling to it because that was my favorite gun to use in the very first Call of Duty game.

regal sapphire
#

I like having room to make mistakes too

kindred orchid
#

But...

strong parrot
#

105-33 in a non bugged timer round?

#

just how dumb are your opponents....its like watching a stodeh video where hes literally 10 feet behind multiple enemies shooting them and no one notices him..

jovial forge
#

Don't care for watching Stodeh's videos. All his clips are him against potatoes

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Gives the false impression that something is OP when its not.

torpid rivet
#

But dem headshots...!

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He's like John wick's ww2 veteran grandpa

dense bone
#

unless stodeh is playng in a bad region, he wrecks

jovial forge
#

It gets stale after awhile

dense bone
#

it does seem like his opponents are idiots though

jovial forge
#

Massive potatoes they are.

#

You'd think with all the dead teammate symbols around

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it would mean turn the hell around

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then again this is on PC so they have their own potatoes

torpid rivet
#

All hail jack

slow spindle
#

Whatch fabianchills or shroud they are op

torpid rivet
#

Fabian talks too much

slow spindle
#

Watch

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I like how you already know who they are.

torpid rivet
#

And shroud doesn't talk at all

slow spindle
#

Say what you want they know how to play games.

lime fossil
#

Fabian isn’t bad. I do enjoy his vids

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I also enjoy Westie

pliant geyser
#

Anyone else want to be able to build static guns as the support

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whereever you want

midnight nimbus
#

stodeh plays EU, so they're less potato than US

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or NA in general

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he also plays on insanely good ping and has really good vision

solid hinge
#

just me or is zerging becoming more and more a thing in cq with the new ttk?

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Yes

pliant geyser
#

its good

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zerg all they want into my ap mines and mmg

south lynx
#

Oh god yes. Pack howitzers would be amazing.

little fjord
#

Does your class need to be level 20 to use the ag m/42?

solid hinge
#

no?

little fjord
#

What class is it for?

solid hinge
#

dunno prob assault or sniper

little fjord
#

I have all 20 overture levels complete but I can't find the rifle

solid hinge
#

because you only get the skin

little fjord
#

🤔

solid hinge
#

you'll get the weapon in week 4 tow

little fjord
#

Strange... it gave the vgo immediately

solid hinge
#

you mean the skin whatever its called

little fjord
#

Oh... nm

solid hinge
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

little fjord
#

I see... the rifle itself is week 4

brave cypress
#

Um

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I'm like 99% sure that the M30 Drilling receiver customizations "Ghost" and "Chromed Finish" are in the wrong spots

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Ghost makes the receiver shinier like Chromed Finish is supposed to, and Chromed Finish just adds white patches to the kind of bronze colored receiver

little fjord
#

Related... the drilling is a fun gun to use

brave cypress
#

Yea

foggy condor
#

Is the Sumoi SMG for the Medic good?

#

I really enjoy using medic

brave cypress
#

It's ok

#

Recoil is a bit jumpy sometimes

foggy condor
#

aha

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I like its fast fire rate

brave cypress
#

50rd mag is good

foggy condor
#

Where can I see all of its specializations?

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I am not on my main pc so I cant see that

brave cypress
#

Dunno

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I could tell you what they are if you want me to

foggy condor
#

That would be really appreciated!

little fjord
#

I don't remember liking sumoi... just got medic to 20 and I used the sten and the mp28 most of the time

foggy condor
#

aha

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I am using the MP40 or 80? And it is pretty good

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But I would prefer a faster firing weapon

little fjord
#

Sumoi is probably the best close range but I like to push the range on the smgs when enemies can't see me

foggy condor
#

For example the last unlockable could be good

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aha

little fjord
#

It is imho... thompson works the best for me

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I don't think the lvl 20 weapons are the best for all the classes but the thompson just seems to kill

foggy condor
#

Thompson is the last unlockable on medic?

little fjord
#

Yeah

foggy condor
#

Cool

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It looks cool, still need some more levels to unlock it

queen matrix
#

bring back CTE

little fjord
#

Anybody know which sights make a glare?

brave cypress
#

@foggy condor I pmed you the specializations

foggy condor
#

Thank you

little fjord
#

Just the scopey scopes?

brave cypress
#

Np

foggy condor
#

=]

brave cypress
#

Yea, I think it's just the sniper scopes

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Not the 3x you can have on LMGs or ARs

little fjord
#

Probably spotting scope too

brave cypress
#

Prolly

little fjord
#

Really!?... 3x on lmg and assault don't glare?

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🤔

brave cypress
#

Nupe

little fjord
#

Wow

brave cypress
#

At least I don't think so

little fjord
#

They should... but good to know

brave cypress
#

I've never been killed by anything with glare other than a sniper

solid hinge
#

air lift duplicate

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thanks dice

brave cypress
#

I haven't gotten my weekly airlifts other than the Red Devil KE7 receiver and the Red Devil P38

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Which I just got tonight lmfao

#

The Gewehr 1-5 feels so useless

#

Fuck Hamada conquest

#

My team can't even leave spawn

hot fable
#

Sturm 1-5 is just so far above every other gun. Game has the balance of a 14 year old versus an infant. Yet again dice cant just make bf4 great again

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Bf4 needs a remaster, easiky the best titke ever released yet these tards just go and make older generation based games

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Ignore everything their fans say

solid hinge
#

will there be xmas sale for bfv on origin?

hot fable
#

Yep

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Its already had half price sales

solid hinge
#

wow

hot fable
#

Because sales are so low

brave cypress
#

Are you fucking serious

hot fable
#

Yeah can get it for 50 bucks

solid hinge
#

i rly want to buy the game i have been waiting for like a year

brave cypress
#

Score is already 30 - 550

hot fable
#

Dont

sharp oxide
#

Its a little disappointing

brave cypress
#

And we lost

hot fable
#

It has no variety

brave cypress
#

0 - 548

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Thanks

hot fable
#

Every match is the exact same

#

My best is 89 kills devastation conquest, so im an avid player. And the game is absolute shite

pliant geyser
#

yea its really good

hot fable
#

Coukd fall asleep and still top leaderboards using unbalanced guns on shitty maps with rubbish movement mechanics

pliant geyser
#

Assault class needs a complete rework

hot fable
#

The whole game does

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Ke7 is still insans

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Snipers are an actual joke

pliant geyser
#

Panzerfaust needs to drop more it flies too straight for a historically short range weapon, damage it does is good since it was indeed powerful its just too easy to aim with, sticky nades need to be taken away and given to recon,

hot fable
#

Imagine worryi g abojt accuracy

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Its a ww2 game with lesbians runni g around

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The whoke game is innacurate

solid hinge
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@hot fable Theres always 2 or more parties arguing for the past and whats given to them now

hot fable
#

Do the badmins ecer read this chat

solid hinge
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If they give them bf4, people are going to complain about where the bf1 and bfv shooter types are vice versa

hot fable
#

No they wont lol

solid hinge
#

Yes they fucking will

hot fable
#

I jave mever heard anyone ask for ww1

solid hinge
#

Its like every game on this planet

hot fable
#

Look

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Bf1 has like 2 servers

solid hinge
#

Almost the whole community asked for ww1 look at the old posts on reddit

hot fable
#

Bf4 still has 10

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In australia

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Go it by ayerbase after time has past since release

solid hinge
#

Got what?

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I enjoy bf1 just as much as i did with bf4

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I think we have to give them time until they sort the bugs out. Same case with bf4 when it was first released

#

Can we split British Servers from the Europe Region just to flex on the British Parliament?

#

BFV is the best unfinished Battlefield Game yet

brave cypress
#

The melee kills challenge is horrible

#

Melee weapons are broken as shit rn

#

Imo of you have a melee in your hands, you should run a bit faster than you do with a gun out

#

There's no way to catch up to enemies unless they stop

topaz dome
#

so now instead of splitting the community by who has premium and not, we are splitting the community between old ttk and new ttk servers? sad

amber notch
pliant geyser
#

So I was playing the new panzerstorm map , I hitched a Pak 75, get behind a fortification I built and somehow placed the gun where I wanted.

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I played the entire match from up there destroying vehicles and infantry from 600m away

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It was then that I realized what BF 5 could be once more content , gameplay additions and stuff is added.

solid hinge
#

you mean once the beta is over?

pliant geyser
#

Static weapons need to be a combat role specialty for support man

solid hinge
#

it literally is, you are the only one who can build them as engineer

pliant geyser
#

Like let support manually turn a emplaced weapon, be able to build a base flat patch of dirt with fortifications then on top let him add any at gun or heavy mg he wants

solid hinge
#

wont happen

pliant geyser
#

I mean A support combat role that revolves around using/ building anywhere you want / and utilizing static emplacements

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They could get creative with it and even allow you to customize the loadout on at guns and heavy mgs.

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Like Raffuss rounds for .50 cals when they get here, and HEsh/ HE/ Heat rounds for at guns

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I mean the gameplay possibilities are huge for such a combat role or gameplay mechanics.

topaz dome
#

mad launching operation assignment from lvl 16 tides of war has gone awol, "added to company" nowhere to be seen, did not play grand operations to do it

pliant geyser
#

say you captured an objective and the enemy is coming and you know the direction, that combat role could position an at gun where the enemy is coming fortify it and then defend.

solid hinge
#

even more "will never happen"

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WW1 is dumb

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we barely study that here

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but i dont think americans played an important role in that to begin with

pliant geyser
#

WW1 is just not a good setting for a BF game

solid hinge
#

WW2 is cooler

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ww1 could've been awesome with fortifications

pliant geyser
#

WW2 is the optimal setting for a BF game for many reasons. Especially if they stick with faction specific weapons and vehicles.

solid hinge
#

but its just full auto heaven rn

pliant geyser
#

ww2 = Balanced as hell sorta from a faction standpoint.

solid hinge
#

americans gonna have the nuke as a squad reward

pliant geyser
#

A really nice asymmetrical balance.

solid hinge
#

it instant wins the game

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like mw2

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i know, my dad works at DICE

pliant geyser
#

Americans were known for their airsrtrikes in ww2 so I would imagine thats what their squad reward will be.

solid hinge
#

nah they'll have some sort of rocket too

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are they gonna add in V-2?

pliant geyser
#

ww2 = no lock on missiles, analog aiming methods, armor penetration mattered for tanks.

solid hinge
#

cause that is what fucked up britain

pliant geyser
#

that all makes for a fun game.

#

Modern times just an abrams will 1 hit kill just about any tank.

solid hinge
#

maybe when we get another axis faction?

pliant geyser
#

Not because its the best tank

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but because Abrams has the benefit of having the best sabot rounds

#

those things go through any tank like a hot knife thru butter.

solid hinge
#

just dont be butter then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

pliant geyser
#

Anyone tried war Thunder ?

solid hinge
#

isnt it dead? i remember playing it 1 or 2 months ago and having awfull queue times

pliant geyser
#

Tank combat in that is just amazing. I hope one day a Battlefield game will have that kind of armor system

solid hinge
#

it never will, because its more of a casual shooter than warthunder

pliant geyser
#

See thats why BF is held back.

#

You can be a casual shooter and still have deep complex game mechanics on top.

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BF games should be easy to pick up and play but have deep mechanics in the back that only those who want to can master.

#

A armor system like War thunder would no hinder anyones fun or lower how many people buy Battlefield games.

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It's like a fully customizable UI, DICE could add it even though few people would use it

solid hinge
#

🤔 if dice wanted a realistic armor model, I'm sure they would've made one

pliant geyser
#

well they are kinda going that way

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with Glancing shots

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and armor disabling.

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I have a feeling the armor system is more complex than it is let on to be.

solid hinge
#

well armor disabling s basically you hit A : the turret to slow it down or B: the tracks to slow the tank down

gray glade
#

or engine

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if u hit the tanks ass

solid hinge
#

or C: be a dick and go AA and shoot both

#

lmao if you get shot from behind as tank you should stop driving tanks

grave loom
#

or D: Play assault and literally take down a tank single handedly

solid hinge
#

like you'll have to be way overextended

grave loom
#

Just blow it up ez

pliant geyser
#

Yea assault needs to be changed a bit

sacred junco
#

Wish it was more like CoH

solid hinge
#

just give him only 1 panzerfaust and done

sacred junco
#

Where ranged at options disable easily

gray glade
#

on some maps its tough to cover all angles as tank though

sacred junco
#

But can rarely kill tanjs

pliant geyser
#

Sticky dynamite needs to go to recon so he can do sneaky behind back stuff with it.
Piat should go to support.

wild jacinth
#

i just want to land on the boat in black out

gray glade
#

like going on rotterdam, no tanker in the world can be completely safe pushing forward

wild jacinth
#

the hijacked map

frozen bridge
#

I'm kind of surprised the developers didn't add a 'copy settings from past game' function

pliant geyser
#

the control settings are a breath of fresh air imo lots of options.

#

There could be more though especially on the ui front.

solid hinge
#

btw whens the beta for bf v over? in like jan or feb?

sacred junco
#

Probably better to have a ui that makes everyone happy then let it be extremely customizable

grave loom
#

I love that u can change FOV on console its so nice

sacred junco
#

Only thing i really want is an easier compass

solid hinge
#

only thing i want is more recons using the 3d spotting

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(its op)

pliant geyser
#

recon spotting scope is a huge gameplay potential gadget.

#

I wish it could be used to ask Airplanes to drop bombs

solid hinge
#

best used on breakthrough

#

find a good position, mark whole enemy team, enjoy free ponts/win

pliant geyser
#

Lose the auto spot ability but instead you can give planes a huge marker on where to drop a bomb and if they drop it near by you can fine tune where it goes

kindred orchid
#

I wish you could see what other players outside squad are marking.

solid hinge
#

use q

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works only for squad tho

pliant geyser
#

Air traffic controller Combat Role or something

kindred orchid
#

At least on minimap.

#

2142 commander was really dope.

solid hinge
#

let them finish the beta first 😃

pliant geyser
#

Like yall remember Bc2 with the targeting dart ?

kindred orchid
#

Could setup area scans for yourself and place markers for different squads and shit.

pliant geyser
#

and locking on with rpgs

kindred orchid
#

Yeah.

pliant geyser
#

Co-operative tactics like that would be so good in BF5.

kindred orchid
#

Broken as hell.

solid hinge
#

tbh i really hope we get more combat roles

pliant geyser
#

We will dude

#

I hope so too

kindred orchid
#

Recon was so broken in bc2.

pliant geyser
#

Combat roles should have benefits and negatives though.

#

Recon could get some fun ones imo.

kindred orchid
#

I really am hoping for a good cqc recon.

solid hinge
#

they kinda have tho, because they lack the significant aspect of the other

pliant geyser
#

Recon- Commando combat role- Suppressed SMGS only - Sticky Dynamite - Spawn beacon

kindred orchid
#

Either shotguns or smgs, I don't care.

solid hinge
#

btw when they gonna add murrica?

kindred orchid
#

Dynamite might be a bit much, but it'd be nice.

pliant geyser
#

Long Range sniper combat role - Increased Lense glare when standing and crouching- No lense flare when prone- No spawn beacon - 2 AP mines.

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Comando would need sticky dynamite it would be so it can go behind enemy lines with the cqc smg and blow up stuff.

solid hinge
#

no lens flare lmao

kindred orchid
#

That sounds like a bad time.

solid hinge
#

basically camper

pliant geyser
#

only when prone

solid hinge
#

long range you'll ony be prone

kindred orchid
#

It'll have the same problem as bc2 did.

pliant geyser
#

not really

kindred orchid
#

90% snipers camping on hills away from objectives.

solid hinge
#

anyways, i STILL HAVENT FINISHED THE V1 KILLS

pliant geyser
#

I havent either

kindred orchid
#

I just finished it earlier.

#

Got 2 in one game, 6 kills on the first, 2 on the second.

pliant geyser
#

Indirect Fire combat role for support - Bolt action or SLR only - No grenades - Ability to spawn in a Pack Howitzer or Field gun anywhere you want.

kindred orchid
#

Tried running with a squad instead of being the squad leader and the leader ran orders, just no bomb.

#

Feels bad man.

pliant geyser
#

anyone remember wolfeinstein 3d ?

#

the old free to play mp game ?

rocky verge
#

got the week 2 reward done

compact oxide
#

Still haven't started it HaHAA

#

Haven't stopped playing medic

pliant geyser
#

jesus nobody here played Wolfeinstein 3d ?

compact oxide
#

Nope

#

Only played the new ones

pliant geyser
#

daam nvm

rocky verge
#

i played the first one

pliant geyser
#

Wolfeinstein 3d had the best mortar system perfect for bf games

rocky verge
#

and the other one

#

wolfenstine the new order and old blood

pliant geyser
#

you didnt magically aim at a spot you had a grid with degrees and azimuth , when a friendly team mate throw a marking grenade you could see where on the aiming chart

#

thats it

#

you get a grid with angles and you dont magically get a map and you point and click

#

You have to memorize what angles are at certain ranges its hard as heck to use and requires teamplay to get accurate

solid hinge
#

no, this game is fine rn without mortars

west plinth
#

Well, the PIAT is a mortar 🤷

pliant geyser
#

they will add indirect fire at one point or another they have to its ww2

#

question now is how they do it

#

do they keep the cheap and lame click on a map system from bf1

#

or do they make them hard to use as they should be

solid hinge
#

dude its a casual game

gray glade
#

there might be a fear that you see supports with ammo crates just spamming mortar rounds all day

solid hinge
#

they'll keep it easy

pliant geyser
#

they better not

#

#1 complaint about BF1 that I can remember is the artillery truck and explosive spam

solid hinge
#

well sorry to disappoint you then

west plinth
#

You do realize the point-and-click-system is already in BF:V, right?

pliant geyser
#

khorney there isnt a problem if its hard to aim the mortar. there wouldnt be any spam they would just be hitting nothing

#

I dont like how the piat is useable that way honestly

pure remnant
#

guys the v1 rocket mission you have to kill the enemies yourself or you can just stay in a squad and wait to the squad leader to kill with the rocket?

pliant geyser
#

Piat should get that removed and instead get Zeroing like the sniper rifles 50m,100m,150m, and 200m for better long range use

gray glade
#

i always found the artillery trucks having more of a detrimental impact in BF1 than the mortar, because usually you had only 1-2 tanks

solid hinge
#

the second should work but peeps on reddit say only the first one does

west plinth
#

The PIAT is really a non-issue, I maybe got killed once or twice during 50ish hours of gametime

pliant geyser
#

no i know but im just not a fan of the return of map indicating where bombs hit

#

I am a firm believer that the more powerful something is the harder it should be to use and master.

#

Raise the skill ceiling by increasing complexity while having it be accessible

west plinth
#

In hardcore games, yes. But BF:V is not a hardcore game and the PIAT isn't all that powerful.

pliant geyser
#

Bf5 isnt a hardcore or a casual game.

#

BF5 is an accessible game that has underlying deep mechanics and strong teambased gameplay.

#

Bf5 isnt fortnite.

west plinth
#

Why does everyone compare BF5 to fortnite...

pliant geyser
#

Overall the piat is fine honestly since its only 2 shots

#

Im doing the opposite tollwut

west plinth
#

Well, BF5 also isn't Minecraft, so what's the point?

pliant geyser
#

Saying BF5 is not Fortnite thus can have deeper mechanics

mossy badge
#

The piat should do a bit more damage, since its spring loaded, the velocity sucks.

#

🤷

pliant geyser
#

I see the piat as the ww2 version of the carl gustav

#

from Bc2

#

Have enemies fortified in a strong position, use it to soften them up

shut brook
#

so.... about that last tides of war assignment...

mossy badge
#

Carl Gustav is an actual Anti Tank weapon, the Piat is a fucking spring loaded launcher

west plinth
#

I love the sound of the PIAT

#

sproing

charred heron
#

@shut brook Nothing wrong with it

shut brook
#

nah I was thinking you just had to be in the squad that gets 2 kills with a V1

charred heron
#

If you're good, you can finish the last 3-4 assignments in one game

#

And you need to be SL

shut brook
#

seems so

charred heron
#

Only the SL gets V2 kills, the rest gets assist points

shut brook
#

just, the text is... vague

#

I thoguht "As a squad do this and this "

mossy badge
#

I never get to play as squad leader 😦

grave loom
#

Just request orders

shut brook
#

meant what I thought above

grave loom
#

90% of time youll get leader then

charred heron
#

I just dethrone most SLs LUL

grave loom
#

Yeah same lul

shut brook
#

so I thought

mossy badge
#

Most people are way better at squad leading than me, since i forget more than half the time that i AM the squad leader

shut brook
#

but everyone else is trying to get it and bam now everyone is barking orders when I try to steal them

solid hinge
#

^

charred heron
#

Then you fullfill the order and they're dead silent again

#

Mostly

grave loom
#

Lotta casual people dont even care about TOW

#

So ya know just gotta keep trying

charred heron
#

Or ask then while they're drivers or especially pilots

#

"What's a radial menu?"

pliant geyser
#

yea let the casuals stick to their fu

#

fun

#

let the more experienced players branch out

charred heron
#

I give most of my orders over said menu

solid hinge
#

Req order when he is bleeding out

pliant geyser
#

For instance anyone here know how Hesh rounds work in tanks ?

solid hinge
#

I think you gotta equip them

charred heron
#

The ones that's fill a tank without liquid metal?

pliant geyser
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Hesh are basically plastic explosive tank rounds, they smack the side of a tank and blow up causing no penetration instead the inside of the tank becomes the sharpnel it kills crew

charred heron
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@pliant geyser Extra shells are equipment

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Like HESH, HEAT etc

pliant geyser
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Imagine if hesh rounds only killed the crew and heavily damaged tanks allowing you to steal enemy vehicles

charred heron
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Nah

solid hinge
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Op

pliant geyser
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wouldnt be op since it causes less damage than ap or heat

charred heron
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I noticed that a lot of people abandon their tanks anyways

west plinth
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Sweet, free tank!

pliant geyser
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it also causes Zero splash damage as it had almost no frag on it

charred heron
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I wish stuff like heat wouldn't bouce

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That's not how they work, Dice

pliant geyser
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see but you guys get what im saying right

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Small things could be done to increase complexity without affecting casuals or keeping bf5 from being hard to play

charred heron
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I also love how the AA tanks have splash damage against planes but not against Infantry

pliant geyser
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aa tanks and aa guns should shred infantry

shut brook
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so I spawned in one of them reinforcment trucks with a canon on seat 2 and proceeded to pass A and onto B on Rotterdam, only guy on it, and as I pass the rail roads out comes like 5 enemies....

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and a tank

charred heron
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I mean, okay, now you have to directly hit them

shut brook
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..... at first I thought it was one guy so I tried to run him over but he just s laps a mine down

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then I see the 4 other guys and a tank

mossy badge
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Slaps roof of landmine
This badboy is armed and ready to kill

charred heron
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But then i don't know why your AA truck with 20mm shells can't even destroy a bush, let alone a tree

solid hinge
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W8 a fucking second

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BFV is hard to play?

mossy badge
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Apparently for some.

shut brook
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because bushes are on another ethereal plane, it only looks like its there, its not

charred heron
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BFV is the Hanzo Main of all team based shooters

solid hinge
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Its one of the most noob friendly bf games

shut brook
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how hard could multidemensional physics can be dude

solid hinge
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Is there like a Poll or soemthing thats Ongoing for the TTK discussion?

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Or shoudl I make one

mossy badge
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No, fairly certain someone already made one.

shut brook
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apparently there was on the official and the majority said it was perfect as is

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but we got Diced anyway

solid hinge
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Ok well maybe theyre more inclined to listen now that everyone is upset?

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BF4 is hard to play

charred heron
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Can we please add Suppression to snipers then If they keep this awful TTK?

mossy badge
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Filthy Casuals

solid hinge
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Npt BFV

shut brook
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The rumors are that they made the decision over metrics in-game that are not open to the public

solid hinge
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Yeah

shut brook
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its that "Customers don't always know what they want" thing

solid hinge
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not rumors, they said it themselves

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Ye

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So do you guys know of an ongoing Poll?

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Or should I make one

pliant geyser
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suppression should be super good and not allow snipers to shoot back, but it should be a combat role for machinegunner and for mmgs only

solid hinge
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poll about what?

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Should the chnage the TTK

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and of what use would that be?

shut brook
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well they already did..... and I feel there just gonna keep it for a while

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CTD isn't out yet right?

solid hinge
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With a rating of the Old TTK, Rating of the New TTK and a questionnaire about if they should bring back the old one, keep the new one, or find a middle ground between the old and new

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I think they just yeeted it in for testing...

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Im sure they did

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just let them sort out that goddamn issue

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But when they see all the POSITIVE feedback im sure they r gonna KEEP IT!

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im sure they'll have it by the end of next week

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Yep

pliant geyser
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they don't need a poll south african

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They are currently looking at player data

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Looking at Average playtime before disconnect.

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If player retention goes higher and average playtime grows vs before then new ttk is here to stay

maiden steppe
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here I am just waiting for Breakthrough Core.

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lewis gun gameplay felt goddamn awful

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it felt normal when using the Suomi

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and my Suomi isn't even specialized yet

west plinth
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MG42 all the way, boyyyys, who needs a lewis gun anyway?

maiden steppe
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I might as well quit the LMGs and use MMGs lol

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IMO MMGs are more of a challenge to use anyway

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very few opportunities to use them effectively

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but when you can bipod them they work wonders

rugged totem
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Is it just me, or does the Spotting Camera seem VEEEERYYY good?

maiden steppe
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or if you get in shotgun range to hipfire them down

west plinth
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Well, I feel like the MMGs did actually profit from the TTK changes as you can drop down and just mow them down before they kill you

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@rugged totem It's definitly super useful

maiden steppe
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exactly

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the dolphin-diving MMG meta is here

mossy badge
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I mean, what else can they do.

vague marsh
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stop this madness of the new TTK

west plinth
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I mean, it's not gonna allow you to rush in, drop and kill everything, but at longer ranges it gives you a fighting chance if someone starts firing at you

maiden steppe
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it's the weekend now. DICE ain't gonna take further action until Monday

rugged totem
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@west plinth Yeah, on Fjell it's insane if you have other pilots or someone who has it equipped, and you can run the the stuka B-2 with 4x50kg bombs to snipe large groups

vague marsh
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many people here in my region stopped playing BFV because of the new ttk change

maiden steppe
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I think my best game before the TTK changes was with the VGO on Fjell Breakthrough. Went on an epic flank for 22 killstreak to capture Point A at the start of the match.

west plinth
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@rugged totem Exactly why I love snipers running the spotting scope. 😉 Seeing infantry with the StuKa got easier after the patch, but getting a general idea where enemies are before starting a dive is soooo damn valuable

maiden steppe
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then proceeded to go 49-6

west plinth
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Also ew, StuKa B-2... B-1 is my boy

vague marsh
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also, panza 50 damage on planes.....

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nice work dice

rugged totem
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I did 5-6 5+ man bombing runs in one game thanks to it, so i think it is really undervalued atm

simple marlin
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anyone know the origins of the "red devil" skin pieces?

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ive been getting that red skin randomly and i don't know how

echo gazelle
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Isn't that the weekly bonus from the Deluxe Edition?

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I think it is

simple marlin
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huh, can they at least announce that we receive it for X reasons

echo gazelle
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It's kind of explained in the DE description.

solid hinge
echo gazelle
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20 Weekly Items with Airlift: Receive vital supplies with 20 weekly Airlifts, each containing one customization item.

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The "vital" part is kind of exagerated, but that's it

simple marlin
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I meant that'd be nice to be notified we received that devil skin because of deluxe edition

west plinth
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It's marketing 🤷

simple marlin
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like, there's nothing ingame that indicates that It is because of the deluxe edition, its just "red devil, rare"

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thats it

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like, at least make a pop up when I log in

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meh, anyway we're beta testing the game at our expenses so 🤷

echo gazelle
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It's just a skin. One I don't even use. There are much worse problems with this game... much, much worse...

simple marlin
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Obviously but that menu is very badly designed and yeah i'd like it to be reworked at term

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i've gotten used to it but damn, its so shit and you barely get any infos on anything, even weapons stats

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why do i have to search for spread sheets on reddit huh ?

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w/e

echo gazelle
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There was one game that surprised me a lot with integrated stats and graphs

meager harness
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How do you get a plane behind you in bf5? It seems like i can't shake them no matter what I try

echo gazelle
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World War 3, that's actually what Battlefield 4 should have been, ironically.

west plinth
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WW3s integrated stats were nothing but smoke and mirrors tho. They didn't really represent anything and were just placeholders

echo gazelle
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It's very, very bugged and unbalanced, but the gun customisation and stats is brilliant

west plinth
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And the game is utterly dead, unfortunately

echo gazelle
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Are they really just placeholders? Damn, it does look good, though.

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kinda reminds me of that gun stats page somewhere

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Symthic, that's it

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very complex site, but so interesting

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Symthic stopped with BF1, shame.

rose yew
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Oh god... What have they done. to TTK...

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and why....

west plinth
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They haven't really, they just didn't add it to their overview yet. The raw data is in their forums for BF5

echo gazelle
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Oh cool

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I'll wait for their spreadsheets for BFV

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if I'm still playing in a month

hoary condor
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Lewis is OP

echo gazelle
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This TTK/TTD issue has me so aggravated that even Destiny 2 looks more appealing... yes, I'm that desperate for a good shooter.

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maybe even COD:WW2 with all the campers and rushers sounds better right now

meager harness
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Anyone?

solid hinge
maiden steppe
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the real reason that good players hate this TTK change is because it reduces their individual ability to meaningfully turn the tides of a 32v32 match

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like yeah, they're still gonna go on killstreaks regardless because they're better than other players, but they often have to avoid groups of front-facing enemies because they have less time to bounce back cover after spending time to kill one or two guys.

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see Planetside 2 and how obnoxious the zerg meta is with its 8-bullet-to-kill average

solid hinge
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I played a bit of Palnetside 2 at one point

snow crater
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does the tides of war work on conquest core

solid hinge
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Not alot

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Probably

compact oxide
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@snow crater should still do

snow crater
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ok

compact oxide
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Unless it's bugged like normal

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Actually you're right Blue, the new ttk promotes zergs a fair bit more

maiden steppe
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headshots aren't gonna change anything. No shit you should go for them no matter the TTK because it helps kill faster, but it isn't always feasible when you're contending with horizontal recoil and spread at range.

compact oxide
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Which pisses me off more than a lot of other shit

maiden steppe
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it was extremely difficult for me to handle a rush of 4-5 people down a corridor today because of the amount of time I spend to kill one guy, even with a headshot applied.

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this is with the Lewis Gun

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yeah, I came to the conclusion that a combination of TTK + movement is directly correlated with how effective zergs are

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it's possible for a buncha bullet sponges to just bust through a choke to overwhelm enemies in numbers, because they don't have time to kill every single guy passing through

vague marsh
echo gazelle
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Zerging in the game is killing it. This isn't COD, but it's sounding more like it with this new trend...

maiden steppe
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BF3/4 don't have this shit because you drop people quickly. It makes defensive playstyles as viable as more aggressive ones, which creates variety in gameplay.

spiral adder
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Eh defeding in bf has never been a thing

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Always ring around a rosey

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Gotta chase dem points

maiden steppe
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it's like that in a non-linear conquest map

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not so much in a map like Locker/Metro in BF4, or Suez in BF1

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and it's never like that in Frontlines

compact oxide
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That's true but when there's changes made that make it harder for the squads that decide to abandon the zerg then you're doing it wrong

spiral adder
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Hence why i love breakthrough. But i hate the lack of vehicles or imbalance eg bombers for 1 side only

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Also no panzerstorm breakthrough :(

hollow pecan
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breakthrough is like the only tyhing that I play