I mean it doesn’t feel shit
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
amber notch
I like both TTKs
viscid crater
"majority" of others don't
amber notch
This one, i personally like
solid hinge
I don’t get the problem, the biggest noticeable difference is that you don’t get killed after being shot for .0001 seconds by the ke7
gray glade
i dont think there's been any sort of measurement as to how ppl like this
amber notch
gray glade
all we can go off is is what we see on reddit or youtube comments
golden hatch
I still got plenty of 1frame deaths with the new TTK
viscid crater
Every social media outlet has blown up with dislike of it. Guess there's not evidence tho
golden hatch
Id take the new TTK if it fixed that crap[
amber notch
golden hatch
But it didnt fix a thing
summer maple
which class are the biggest whiners after the new TTK? snipers? ^^ the medic just need a good weapon, thats all.....
steel fjord
people can't say they like it. get instantly down voted, insulted, called a shill, so on
amber notch
Assault M1907
pliant geyser
BF5 has so much potential man playing Hamada conquest made me realize that.
light dust
I wouldn’t say the M1907 is the winner.
golden hatch
So you agree that low RPM guns are basically useless now?
gray glade
i can understand ppl using the mp40 or semi auto rifles complaining tbh
light dust
It only has 21 bullets in a a magazine.
gray glade
but certainly dice can improve those weapons to make them more viable
golden hatch
Doesnt mean its a good weapon
viscid crater
Alright chief
steel fjord
because weapons can't be rebalance without going to the old TTK 
amber notch
yikes
light dust
Also, why does the M1 Fire like a slow automatic?
golden hatch
Also its not very hard to get top scores in battlefield due to the amount of absolutely terrible players in the game
amber notch
viscid crater
I could run around with a revolver and get the most kills in the game. Does it mean it's the best weapon??
golden hatch
Imagine getting cocky over your scores in a game full of noobs @amber notch
gray glade
@steel fjord but you can balance specific weapons without changing ALL guns
solid hinge
everyone with this game just needs to calm the fuck down
golden hatch
Well you are acting like a right arrogant prick about it
steel fjord
@gray glade yeee. your point?
amber notch
Just proving ive played the "new TTK"
Its just how you are interpreting it
tbh
🤷
autumn iron
no dont stop this is hilarious
solid hinge
Can I be an arrogant prick and say people who complain about the ttk are either shit players or abused weapons which got nerfed by it like ummmmm the ke7 Which was hell on fucking earth
golden hatch
I can also still destroy people, doesnt mean the weapon balance isnt completely fucked
pliant geyser
New TTK is fine but people need to understand its only the first step of DICE fine tuning it.
amber notch
^
solid hinge
I’ve used all four classes since the ttk and the only problem I’ve had is with snipers
golden hatch
I mostly just run around and rely on my aim so the new TTK is even better for me, but its just less fun to play with in my opinion
steel fjord
TTK is good because it rewards people that can aim. tanking one more bullet does not make you a bullet sponge and does not make positioning completely irrelevant like people claim.
viscid crater
Should of been done in a CTE not on fucking PRODUCTION
solid hinge
I will admit snipers are now unusable with the glint and ttk
sudden hedge
steel fjord
no CTE ever would be able to retrieve data as reliable and as quickly as this approach.
amber notch
^
viscid crater
How?
steel fjord
Its a drastic aproach. Its a drastic change
viscid crater
Every other game manages just fine
steel fjord
didn't the CTE only work on pc?
devout edge
It's an approach sure to piss off people.
summer maple
the poor guys at DICE...in the meanwhile of gaming business, its the hell on earth with big communitys... 😉
lime stirrup
I loved the CTES, they weren't very heavily populated though so this approach is far better
viscid crater
CTE with a 2x CC rewards would get plenty of people playing 
gray glade
CTE kind of ruined the surprise factor in BF1 tho
amber notch
CTE was PC only, least they can gather feedback from all 3 platforms this way
solid hinge
Dice got backlash because let’s be honest many battlefield gamers are tragic
viscid crater
I don't think you understand
amber notch
solid hinge
No life so I’m gonna take it out on dice
gray glade
i would support a new CTE but only for balance testing, not for new weapons testing or showing new maps etc
golden hatch
It wasnt a smart move and not very well thought out. Even an idiot couldve told you that if you magically make ALL weapons weaker that the balance is going to get fucked up. I dont understand why this was implemented so quickly and without a 2nd thought when, lets face it, the game clearly isnt doing very well and people love to be outraged by everything surrounding it. DICE cant really afford bad PR atm and yet they pull shit like this. It just shows to me that the ones who decided to make this change are some higher-ups who are completely out of touch with the community.
solid hinge
And say shit like #notmyttk
steel fjord
thanks @amber notch . CTE was PC only. Consoles have a bigger player count
viscid crater
@solid hinge reverting to insults now. OK
solid hinge
Not really I’m just having fun watching the community burn over nothing
DICE gets backlash bc this community doesn’t know how to be calm and constructive. there seems to be a misunderstanding that you have to be as angry and vile as possible to be heard
amber notch
^
soft breach
I got a message from a dude complaining that i was camping with an MMG and told me later to fuck off. The battlefield community is almost as bad as the call of duty community
summer maple
@solid hinge thats right man
golden hatch
I agree the community is fucking aids
steel fjord
they are "vocal"
golden hatch
All the complaints have been bullshit and ive defended DICE
solid hinge
throws Molotov while shouting out the dundundundundundun son from the menus
soft breach
The only difference is that cod has more 12 year olds
golden hatch
But u cant disagree that the new TTK is unbalanced and wasnt smart to put out just like that
viscid crater
Let's say they make a playlist called idk "core" and that playlist has the new ttk changes with a increased company coin bonus. Would people play it and then they could gather their "data"?
solid hinge
Oh I think it needs fine tuning but calm the fuck down
golden hatch
Im sure theyre going to revert it and/or tweak it, but it wasnt a smart move either way
lime stirrup
/r/battlefieldv used to be level headed, now it's just as bad as /r/battlefield
viscid crater
lol
viscid crater
@amber notch I DON'T Care. They can do the CORE playlist on all platforms. It's the SAME thing
golden hatch
Well the feedback is pretty clear id say 😄
solid hinge
#notmyttk is just tragic asf like it’s not that bad and you don’t even vote for game changes so how does that translate
lime stirrup
I thought the worst was over after all the SJW bullshit subsided, this ttk outrage is far worse
amber notch
Its great
solid hinge
like just take a step back and take several chillpills
one feels that one could find something else to do with one’s time
golden hatch
At least the TTK outrage actually has something to do with the gameplay
solid hinge
im gonna sit here and watch the world burn
golden hatch
Unlike the SJW bullshit of some snowflakes
solid hinge
while having zero problems with the game
solid hinge
Lol
golden hatch
Beta STG pls
solid hinge
eSs JaY dUbYa SnOwFlAkEs
viscid crater
@solid hinge then you have no problems with the game. The ones that do will speak out.
solid hinge
again speak out, it’s a game
solid hinge
This isn’t some corrupt regime it’s a game
viscid crater
ON things they don't like
solid hinge
I loved the ttk before and am a little bit pissed they changed it but it hasn’t changed gameplay so much so I’m just gonna adapt to the tiny change
Instead of spending hours ranting about it maybe gitgud
viscid crater
@solid hinge then you adapt, I don't care if you're fine with it. I'm not so I'm gonna talk about
it
novel mason
Feedback is one thing, ranking and chanting a cringey slogan is another
solid hinge
Yeah nah just uhhhh calm down a touch LOL
maybe go play some Minecraft or something easier if it’s so bad, just a thought 😇
amber notch
Ok, this conversation has gone on long enough.
solid hinge
I’ve said this many times but the console skill level is higher for me
steel fjord
Its funny that "they" said DICE shouldn't make things easier to casuals because they should adapt, but now you can't adapt to a new TTK that rewards better aim
viscid crater
I mean it's been going on since the changes
amber notch
All platforms are equal @golden hatch
golden hatch
Thats why theres crossplay right
solid hinge
I’ll take SJWs and console plebs over people who have a superiority complex over a game, tbh
vague reef
i really wish the gewehr m95/30 1sk'd to the upper chest
viscid crater
Nobody bashed the preferences lol
solid hinge
As someone who played both growing up and stayed with console and pc is just effort
Like I would happily play either one because again its just a game lads
golden hatch
I dont care, i genuinely think console players are worse than PC players
solid hinge
lul
golden hatch
Quote me all u want 😄
viscid crater
either way. Isn't bashing someones ability just as bad?
amber notch
golden hatch
Nah thats ok cus hes on his side of the argument m8
amber notch
What?
solid hinge
anyone who still has a hang up on platform superiority in 2018 needs to reevaluate some things
viscid crater
Can't all be great. Being told to "git good" hurts my feelings
solid hinge
As someone who’s actually played all platforms I’ll happily say the skill level on pc is much lower than PS4 or the box
like why they even care
I mean you will just say I’m wrong but you probably don’t play console
the tea is that PC gamers tend to be more arrogant, not more skilled 😄
solid hinge
I mean as far as a gaming experience goes pc is way better of course but not as hard as console
golden hatch
Ive played FPS games on console but it really isnt very great when u use a gamepad instead of mouse+keyboard imo
solid hinge
Can anyone use battlefield v concept art for a game mod without crediting ea for it?
lime stirrup
cookies plays on console predominantly his opinion doesn't count 😛
golden hatch
Skill gap is always going to be much bigger on PC
Maybe theres more noobs on PC
and its more even on console
That could make sense
solid hinge
I’ve gamed on all platforms, and I’m only on PC now. I’ve never been more impressed by PC gamers in comparison to console
amber notch
I moved from console to pc, havent noticed any difference tbh
tight saddle
!voteban FrosteR 😄
amber notch
🤷
solid hinge
There really isn’t that much difference
yo?
But pc gamers for me, and that’s for me are definitely worse in general, or maybe I just find pc easier
Either way it doesn’t really matter
Because we are playing a game
golden hatch
Console skillgap is naturally smaller, but thats ok, games are closer, but top players arent going to be as much above the rest as on PC
viscid crater
Hey guys, check this guy out. He's so laid back and sophisticated.
solid hinge
the difference is PC is full of people manually pleasuring themselves over the delusion of their own excellence
topaz dome
Public Service Announcment - According to the recent survey you guys don't like the enfield 
did you guys know that you can fire the enfield about 30% faster with upgrade than the other high damage sniper rifles with upgrade? that makes it easier on you to hit more 1hit kill headshots. o, did I mention 10, count them 10 rounds before reload? - From your local enfield user 
solid hinge
but we’re all gamers, that’s why we’re here
viscid crater
"it's just a game brah"
novel mason
POW Has forsaken us
golden hatch
Enfield is great to run around with as an ironsight rifle
amber notch
solid hinge
Like facepalm react and get angry all you want but have you played anything other than pc @golden hatch because you literally have people telling you flat out the skill level on pc is lower
viscid crater
Is this the new hipster gamer?
novel mason
Thought you just noped out 'cause I assumed you were going to stop the platform bashing haha
amber notch
golden hatch
Ive played plenty of console FPS games though @solid hinge
solid hinge
I mean personally I think the Enfield has a touch too much range I think it should fire faster but it shouldn’t be able to compete at range
viscid crater
@solid hinge I used to have Xbox, from the original until like 3 years ago
golden hatch
People are closer together in terms of skill on console
tight saddle
#FreedomOfSpeech
golden hatch
Obviously cant compare 1on1 PC vs console because gamepad doesnt even come close, but thats not the point im trying to make
skill ceiling is always going to be higher on PC
For FPS games at least
Its only logical
solid hinge
I mean it’s your logic
golden hatch
😄
solid hinge
Like again coming from the guy who’s using a redundant meme to complain about a tiny difference in a game instead of just adapting to it
viscid crater
Because a controllers isn't meant for perfect aiming. A mouse tho 😄
solid hinge
That’s not logical
golden hatch
So you are disagreeing that skill ceiling on PC FPS games is not higher than console?
tight saddle
Alright Spak calm down
fathom pebble
golden hatch
Funniest shit ive heard all week
viscid crater
@tight saddle No need for that champ
solid hinge
I’ve played both and I’m a great player on both but I again just find console a lot harder
golden hatch
I do think its fun to play on console because everyone is going to be closer together in terms of skill
amber notch
Using a controller is hard
opaque cipher
Console is only hard because you can’t aim properly
steel fjord
idk, the TTK screeching has been pretty funny. and sad. just like my life i guess 
amber notch
thats one thing ill say
golden hatch
I just prefer mouse+keyboard over fiddling around with a controller
solid hinge
I enjoy console more because it’s less competitive for most games but bf is much harder on console
opaque cipher
Without aim assist
vague reef
im top 500 on both pc and ps4 on overwatch as a dps and pc is 3x harder at least
solid hinge
I mean console you are literally firing a trigger I’ve found it much more natural using a controller but much harder none the less, I think your reactions need to be a lot quicker
viscid crater
@vague reef overwatch is a perfect example. Take widow and a top 500 from each platform. Guess who's better?
opaque cipher
@amber notch when do people usually get Trusted btw
opaque cipher
Can I have one 
viscid crater
That makes no sense lol
golden hatch
Reactions quicker on console? lul
viscid crater
LOL
golden hatch
Ok you have to be trolling now
solid hinge
Tbf I don’t really care, if I did care I would prolly fix my pc, go un-lose my virginity and go complain about getting 5 less fps on reddit
Sorry that was a cheap shot
pliant geyser
You dont buy a pc for BF5
viscid crater
@solid hinge Why does virginity even come into it?
golden hatch
That made zero sense lmao
solid hinge
the notion that people can’t have fast reactions because of platform lul
pliant geyser
You get into gaming on pc for the games you cant get on console
Crpgs, Mil sims, Strategy games, niche indies.
golden hatch
Its easier to react quickly with a mouse that u can swipe very quickly as opposed to a controller in which you need to turn gradually, if that makes sense @solid hinge
solid hinge
You get into gaming on pc because the games are better and console can’t adapt
opaque cipher
solid hinge
he said the trigger
golden hatch
You can turn around infinitely faster with a mouse than a joystick
pliant geyser
I need to buy a console
opaque cipher
A glimpse into what you can do on a PC
pliant geyser
there are some ps4 exclusives i want to try
solid hinge
you can adjust sensitivity on consoles, can’t you? 🧐
opaque cipher
solid hinge
Yeah
opaque cipher
And what you can do on a console
golden hatch
In terms of reactions on when to shoot, there wont be much difference but a mouse will be a bit faster due to less travel distance on a mouseclick than on a trigger to get it working
viscid crater
Let's just drop the different console shite guys
solid hinge
he said pulling the trigger, tho, not travel distance
solid hinge
which is more natural
viscid crater
People play wherever who cares. One may be "better" than the other
novel mason
Out of curiosity, do you guys on console usually change around the aim assist settings much? I really only play games like RDR2 & have been wondering for a while
solid hinge
Let’s go back to watching the world burn over ttk changes again
golden hatch
The trigger needs to be pulled and travel a certain distance before it activates
viscid crater
@solid hinge Sounds great
golden hatch
Bigger distance in a trigger than on a mouse click
solid hinge
the trigger distance isn’t as great as you seem to think
amber notch
Drop the console discussion.
opaque cipher
Tfw there is no BF discussion happening
viscid crater
@solid hinge in your opinion :))
opaque cipher
golden hatch
Back to TTK boys
viscid crater
Yis
golden hatch
New ttk is shit amiright
viscid crater
Yup
last grove
longer TTK only fucks over people who cant aim in the first place, other than that its basically whatever 🍿
solid hinge
I mean yeah it’s annoying they changed it but it was a worthy sacrifice to get a fixed ttd
golden hatch
But TTD isnt fixed?
viscid crater
I wanted to play Battlefield not Halo
opaque cipher
Less forgiving
last grove
TTD problem fix requires more than just changing values in a notepad, you need to spend little bit more money before small indie company can afford that kind of stuff
solid hinge
I’ve found the ttd to be much better since it was changed, that was the whole point of them changing ttk because they couldn’t change one and not the other
steel fjord
because they are 2 different problems that are very very intertwined
last grove
it now takes few frames longer before that insta death hits you
golden hatch
I still get just as many 1frame deaths
pliant geyser
a round
steel fjord
i got less 1frames, but it got better
solid hinge
Imagine a world where people acknowledge that people spend a lot of time making a good game so instead of just burning down reddit with shitposting they actually give games a fair chance
last grove
before someone shot you 4 times and then you insta died from the first hit marker, now they shoot you 6 times until that happens
viscid crater
Dice's multiplayer producer literally said it is worse now than pre ttk update. He's wrong tho????
novel mason
They were doing networking tests with Battlenonsense yesterday so I'm a bit curious to see what the results are
golden hatch
On paper, yes @last grove
last grove
just play snipers, doesnt matter what ttk or ttd is 
golden hatch
But in reality I get just as many weird TTD moments as before
opaque cipher
@solid hinge imagine a world of understanding
steel fjord
if you mean Drunkz, he said weapon balanced was messed up
opaque cipher
viscid crater
@novel mason It lasted like 45 minutes, they must have found something for it to be cut short like that
solid hinge
is there a way to type in exact color values for like headshot indicator etc? has anyone found a way to do that?
Tbf either way it’s a game
golden hatch
Imagine if Drunkze was in charge of weapon balance instead of whatever monkey made the decisions now
novel mason
I believe he means Sirland @steel fjord
solid hinge
Not life or death
golden hatch
We'd have a good game already
opaque cipher
I mean
viscid crater
opaque cipher
That argument has been used to death
opaque cipher
And it really doesn’t hold a lot of weight
thorny ermine
TTK argument, yay
opaque cipher
Game or not, it’s something you’re passionate in or at least hold some mild interest
last grove
truth is, no matter what the balance is or who is the person doing the balancing you still have people bitching about it. The topic might change but the bitching will continue forever
golden hatch
I can discuss how consoles are inferior instead of TTK if you prefer @amber notch
😄
amber notch
Planes are in a good spot though
pliant geyser
planes could be better 😃
novel mason
several people are typing
dawn fog
Is there a way, on BF V, to make VOIP activate on voice, instead of push to talk?
golden hatch
I dont use planes but didnt they nerf fighters for no reason?
opaque cipher
It’s still as much of a big deal as say other big parts of your life
amber notch
@golden hatch Ive warned you about console comments before.
steel fjord
whats that tweet got to do with the TTK changes?
pliant geyser
The 3rd person aiming circle for bombers should be taken out
golden hatch
Once again I dont use them at all but thats what i saw
viscid crater
didn't fighters become useless?
vague reef
does the zh-29 onetap to the head?
last grove
no
eternal apex
Am I the only one who thinks the new TTK is actually good
pliant geyser
fighters are perfectly fine still they melt bombers
steel fjord
people said it does but very very up close
autumn iron
@eternal apex no it only seems like that because the people against it are so vocal
last grove
only thing thats actually broken atm in the game is m30 drilling and that stupid rifle shot. That gun should be thrown in the same place where frodo threw that ring
amber notch
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solid hinge
I’ve found that despite complaining fighters haven’t been too bad for me
summer maple
i like BF V before and after the new TTK...hell...get a good gun and have fun. #notmyrage #petermüllertiger237 ^^
amber notch
Please keep your comments to yourself.
viscid crater
What?
last grove
rofl
eternal apex
¿
vague reef
so is there any advantage to the zh-29 over the model 8?
dawn fog
So people should stop talking, since they need to keep their comments to themselves?
solid hinge
Much ado about nothing this morning has been
last grove
are they going to fix the revive problem when you get thrown 10 miles away from the spot
after revive
solid hinge
reddit started it though
dawn fog
So, anyone know if there's a way to setup VOIP to voice activation instead of push to talk, on BF V?
solid hinge
Anyway something to actually complain about fucking hell unlocking the white spitfire is effort
novel mason
The chapter assignments are the way to go for that
solid hinge
Would be nice if they added higher cc for your rank aka a major gets more cc than a private
last grove
I have exactly 5 minutes of flying in all of BF's total because im too lazy to figure out what keybinds would make the flying easy for my fat fingers
thorny ermine
https://i.imgur.com/f2pCdfg.png who would want to play with planes, amirite
solid hinge
Then give it a radar with enemy planes and it’s killing time
eternal apex
I find controllers better for flying games imo
solid hinge
Have to say I went in a g2 after going in the spitfire when the g2 doesn’t had radar and I felt like I had lost a wing or something.
lol I wouldn’t get into that one
eternal apex
?
steel fjord
real pilots land their plane and go teabag noobs
solid hinge
I’m finding landing planes to be much harder this year
steel fjord
that would actually be super funny to see
twilit pelican
StG is broken
soft storm
I’m finding that dice still likes to nerf shit to th the point that it discourages use of it for a while
solid hinge
can they ke7 please
soft storm
Cough cough SMG’s, DMR’s, planes.
glossy locust
just me or are the graphics not as good as bf1?
solid hinge
Tbf actually the ke7 after the ttk nerf is feeling only just above average so it’s feeling terrible
I think the general scenery in some bf1 maps was better year
twilit pelican
Theres no Dmrs in bfv
solid hinge
Yeah
glossy locust
i played ro a few hours last night and ttk felt pretty much the same
solid hinge
Like sinai there aren’t my maps close to it
twilit pelican
There is BRs but not DMRs
solid hinge
The difference is actually tiny but the battlefield community loses their shit over anything
glossy locust
they probalby will change it back as the "instant death" problem still exists
solid hinge
Basically people get angry when they need to adapt to something
twilit pelican
The new ttk is horrible
novel mason
Is there a way to hide the hud with a keybind?
solid hinge
Personally I enjoy it, what’s the challenge in going in to a game and just camping or going on bombing roads
Raids
twilit pelican
7 to 8 bullets to kill someone with and 6 with a head ping
solid hinge
Like learn a new gun try a new play style
novel mason
It's not, but I asked for a keybind :P
twilit pelican
Hit markers galore
solid hinge
What gun is that the m1a1?
eternal apex
People need to realize: complaining on a discord server not made by the devs won't do something. You need to email the support team
solid hinge
I feel like they and lmg abusers are the most outraged
subtle cloak
Are there any special weapons in BFV as the different special kits you could find in the map in BF1?
solid hinge
No
marble cape
subtle cloak
i have seen in aerodrome there is a huge drone that someone controls
solid hinge
Thank the lord above for it
twilit pelican
@solid hinge they nerfed smgs slrs ars and lmgs
marble cape
Doesnt seem to be a thing
subtle cloak
what is tat?
eternal apex
V1 Rocket
subtle cloak
what are the drones in aerodrome and how do i shoot it/get it
eternal apex
What drone
solid hinge
Ah lol yeah v1 or b2
marble cape
eternal apex
It's WW2
solid hinge
You have to be the squad leader
subtle cloak
hmm ok
solid hinge
Easy now
eternal apex
Drone were only in use in the last month of the war I think. Like recon drones I think
solid hinge
Basically the squad gets reinforcements for the points they get like killstreak
subtle cloak
they are sick af tho
soft storm
DMRs weren’t in WW2. ackshually intensifies
solid hinge
I mean they used gliders but unmanned drones I haven’t heard of
soft storm
Unmanned pigeon bombers
solid hinge
Lol like in 4 lions the crow bomber
isn't comparing the new ttk to halo's ttk a bit too much?
idle rampart
Hey guys I'm a huge battlefield fan and I just wanted to know when the game will be live/playable? I know betas last a while but I'm excited to play the finished product sometime before February
eternal apex
Um
soft storm
Funny maymay
eternal apex
It’s out
idle rampart
just kidding I know its broken
solid hinge
Oh damn that’s interesting
idle rampart
morning yall
opaque cipher
Click here to see why!!!!
dim gazelle
TTK
eternal apex
I also hate how people are pissed women are in BFV
idle rampart
Last time I checked when I tested Battlefield at EA HQ a while ago they definitely were more oriented in marketing than gameplay
idle rampart
I just wish they didn't run this franchise into the ground so quickly
I passed on testing further products like, 3 series ago
soft storm
It was almost like it was a conscious decision
solid hinge
If they had marketed the game well there wouldn’t be a problem
my uncle works at Capcom he said that we're getting bad company 3 next year
My dads postman works at the CIA it’s gonna be battlefield black ops 8
soft storm
Um
solid hinge
Fair play mofi for having a go but the was just terrible
twilit pelican
Thanks 
solid hinge
ok, yeah, that was really bad
soft storm
They hired a 15 year dice veteran
solid hinge
Exactly I have very few problems that make me above slightly annoyed with bf v but company coins makes me full on mad
soft storm
To lead their Stockholm development studio
idle rampart
also I'm gonna say this before I leave to work (time to ssh and fix the world): please push fixes to the CTE so we can test them instead of making them live like the TTK/TTD "fix" recently
solid hinge
Guys why isn’t anyone hyping up battlefield call of black ops 9.2
btw the guy who's leading that studio is the same guy who said the whole "don't like women, don't buy it"
idle rampart
it's essentially made certain guns/classes reallllly gimped
solid hinge
just sayin'
dim gazelle
@solid hinge yesterday i received 15k of them
solid hinge
Call of battlefield modern warfare black ops v 9.7
dim gazelle
lol
soft storm
Or whatever
solid hinge
How did you get 15k
cause i've seen a few people who hate bfv rallying with him lol, and it just confuses me
novel mason
Sirland is bae
dim gazelle
which rank are u
vague reef
im waiting for battlehalo call of black hawk down ops 3: a realm reborn
solid hinge
Level 50
twilit pelican
@solid hinge i only get coins from the daily
glossy locust
why are the graphics worse though? Console?
twilit pelican
Im rank 50 as well
glossy locust
the same thing happened on battlefront 2
soft storm
Patrick Bach
glossy locust
the terrain looks like shit
solid hinge
Tbf actually 15k if you are like level 30 isn’t too hard
dim gazelle
i was rank 50 pretty fast and the last update gave u coins for ur additional playtime
twilit pelican
I can't finish upgrading my guns in assault
glossy locust
look at it close
solid hinge
i heard that the xbone x version ran at 4k/60fps?
Yeah tbh that’s not too hard I probably did that one day as well
twilit pelican
@dim gazelle the last update actually took away like 3k of coins i had
twilit pelican
Yeah i had 4k i got on and had 1k
glossy locust
it looks like they don't use the same texture method for the terrain that they did in bf1
dim gazelle
ive read on this discord that one dude got 78k company coins lol
soft storm
Yeah and then everyone clapped
solid hinge
Yeah bf1 in many ways looked a lot cleaner
twilit pelican
And i see them on the screen after matches but i never get them
dim gazelle
how can i fix this blure at distance?
twilit pelican
How many bullets did the StG take to kill before the ttk change
soft storm
4-5
novel mason
dim gazelle
before it was 4 in cqb
twilit pelican
Yeah
Ok the distance of the corridors at C on aerodrome thats like 50m or more so i just shot down there and got hella hit markers and head pings not any kills 7 to 8 btk and not one kill its really moments like that
novel mason
https://twitter.com/DRUNKKZ3/status/1073579906758516737
Update on yesterdays network tests
dim gazelle
i hope they will choose the right decision for ttk and ttd now...
austere path
can you play with people without adding htem to friends list? can you just add them to squad via username?
twilit pelican
I hope they revert to old ttk and use it as a foundation to balance with little tweaks
simple marlin
OMG
the ratburner helmet gives a takeover animation ?
someone that wore that helmet killed me with a headbutt on my head
twilit pelican
Hmm?
unborn blaze
What
dim gazelle
?
simple marlin
instead of using his melee weapon idk
unborn blaze
Oh
amber notch
Wait it does?
twilit pelican
Were you laying down?
amber notch
I thought that was in the game before hand
simple marlin
Idk, first time i notice this
twilit pelican
Same
dim gazelle
one dude posted a video yesterday where u can use head nut to kill someone
simple marlin
i see, well that was so cool
idle rampart
the best part about this game is going in for a melee kill and it plays a 3-5 second cutscene
its so cool guys those cutscenes
in a 64 player fps
so immersive
simple marlin
kthxbai
dim gazelle
i like them
dim gazelle
its more realistic, and not like in cod
idle rampart
yeah cod is for casuals anyways
amber notch
I ended up doing the headbutt animation on an mg42 user, and honestly i thought i was going to be shot in the head
i was terrified
idle rampart
that game is dead already on sale
dim gazelle
which game?
idle rampart
being real, cutscenes are fine but whoever thought it was a good idea for a literally 5 second headbutt animation needs to actually play the game on a live server and rethink that design choice again
soft storm
Isn’t BFV on sale?
idle rampart
bfv was on sale the minute they saw the lackluster preorder sales.......coughnvidiapartneredgamecough
idle rampart
no, one cutscene deeeefinitely takes more than 2-3 seconds
undone forge
v rocket assigment has a bug and dont count ... cannot get the helmet
idle rampart
you roll the dude over and headsmash him, it takes easily over 3 seconds, at least it has the 2-3 times that animation has played for me and killed me due to the length
if its "not that long" then I guess I found another bug
simple marlin
well ye its not ideal
idle rampart
its not ideal, then why was it put ina game that is obviously trying to be competitive in SOME sense?
simple marlin
but then i prefer that than call of duty melee oneshotting everything
idle rampart
if you're going to turn the game into ww2 battlefront just do it and name it so
"BATTLEFRONT 1942"
idle rampart
says like, every choice they've been trying to make in the last 2 games
its trying really badly
its a joke in the fps competitive scene at how out of touch EA is with Esports
simple marlin
im playing bf cuz its a good break from other more tryhard games lol
its a casual game
and i dont believe that EA should try to go competitive, the casual style fits to them
idle rampart
I play BF because I loved 1942 and went pretty hard/pro in BF2, and ever since then the games been catered towards casuals and bad gameplay choices
like "oh this guy just wiped an entire squad in a clip, that can't happen or casuals gonna quit"
simple marlin
the market is already filled of shit tons of FPS trying to be the next CS idk
so ye, i'd rather a propre casual game around
simple marlin
uhhh
idle rampart
I just think if EA was smart, they'd take a step back and just remarket a bit instead of running BF into the ground with "NO NO WAIT GUYS WE GOT IT THIS TIME TRUST US"
simple marlin
bf42 small?
gray glade
compared to bf3 and bf4 they were yes
icy sluice
The TTK might be reverted
simple marlin
they were not small for their time
simple marlin
dude that's another time
icy sluice
How long has CSGO been out?
idle rampart
how long has battlefield been on this version of the engine?
simple marlin
its almost like 20 years that bf42 was out
idle rampart
5 years?
icy sluice
How long has Counter Strike existed?
simple marlin
so of course it sold less than current games
gray glade
dice are in a different position now than they were
now they actually have something to lose
idle rampart
I mean the only reason I don't give any leniency in how this game is done is because it shouldnt be this hard to listen to players who know how to play their product and take advice
the bomber nerf should terrify everyone
like, how they handled that was terrifying
gray glade
their investors arent gonna allow them to take risks too big
idle rampart
"something is broken, lets quickly adjust every variable possible"
icy sluice
On the bright side, I no longer see people getting 100+ kills
idle rampart
I mean it was broken, im not denying that
simple marlin
i don't see why bombers should be able to get that many of kills easily
amber notch
ya
idle rampart
but just increase the bomb respawn timer, ffs
idle rampart
they were but mostly because you could reload without even stopping
solid hinge
Imagine if people never new the term TTK, then people would not compain so much
icy sluice
They did introduce a pilot spawn delay
idle rampart
it would take like 4 rounds of live gameplay to realize that bug
but I feel as if they don't have internalized testing anymore
they did when I visited redwood years ago
maybe budgets were slashed
forest dome
Is the last TOW assignment bugged? Stuck at 1 kill for eternities
forest dome
Well that sucks, will not be able to play after this weekend :(. I really wanted that helmet lmao
Yea correct
quaint pollen
1 kill from the final gold piece on my sniper and I get solo J bombed and my sqaud mate just sat there and watched me bleed out as he was at 0-14 kills
forest dome
Damn okay
idle rampart
welcome to battlefront 5
I heard if you go 0-16 steampunk vader spawns
and you can ride the train
solid hinge
I think what would make a pretty cool detail, if the weapons would be damaged by bullets
and you had to run too a depot and have them replaced
quaint pollen
catching 10 people in the head in one life while they are playing the objective is so hard and having been 1 away 4 times now and getting it stolen by either someone salty and solo J bombing me or sniping me with a tank is beyond getting on my last nerve
idle rampart
most of us just avoid doing those, at least the ones that require you to entirely change your gameplay for the worse
I mean I'll do easy ones, but I've heard some require you to get multi-kills several times in one life/etc
no thanks I don't play MMOs
quaint pollen
it wouldn't be too hard if people knew how to... idk revive squadmates while they are behind cover
idle rampart
or use just terrible guns, especially with the TTK/TTD fix
yeah that's something that is the reason I'm so salty about this game
when they included the game with every nvidia card, it made the playerbase skill level just plummet
like, its painfully obvious some people have no idea what they are doing on conquest
no tutorial, nothing
icy sluice
There is a tutorial
A video
When you start a new gamemode it does show how to play it
idle rampart
half the time I mention you can be way more lucrative point-wise on defense, I get weird comments like its a new thoughtwave
maybe people should be forced to watch it then
because I see a lot of blind lemur-zerging
quaint pollen
I've played since 2 but the only reason I'm even playing 5 is because it came with my card
quaint pollen
most of my buddies that played 4 and 1 with me just aren't playing due to the marketing nightmare and what they are seeing with the ever competent devs
idle rampart
I think the biggest problem is their lack of focus on what they want the product to be
they're forgetting the ecosystem of FPS games
by targeting casuals right off the bat and throwing the more competitive gamers aside, you've essentially doomed the game to a one-month hypespike
and then the game is gonna die so quuiiiicccckkkkk
quaint pollen
they were on a hardline with being a "realistic" shooter till they started veering into the arcade shooter skid
idle rampart
they keep thinking these sales are gonna save the BR
but the BR is so late, if it even screws up a small thing it's gonna get roasted
they had years now to do this
their best bet at this point is NOT doing what they did with that incursions stuff and abandon the BR
that whole bf1 "we can be competitve, look we have a mode for it" was so cute and terrible
quaint pollen
if they didn't go full tilt #Everyone'sBattlefield then people would be supporting the brand enough to tough out the harsh release
but having a bad game and a company that isn't liked by the public is a combo that leads to disaster
idle rampart
I don't even care about the sexism stuff or that, I don't think most of my serious FPS gamer friends cared either
what they did care about however is a ton of additions that made the game less smooth, or competitive
if a shooter isn't competitive at heart, it's essentially a throw-away experience
this games job to the investors is to keep us in the game
its failing to do that so badly
so so badly
amber notch
interesting
found this on reddit
changing the bearings to the top middle of the screen and the flags to the bearings location
quaint pollen
separating art from artist is easy when the product is high quality
once the public already has a wave of hate for the game they will latch onto anything available
forest dome
Its clearly an EA executive who made them push those changes
idle rampart
I don't think an EA exec is forcing these changes
I really feel their team in charge of core balancing is just really inexperienced
again, I don't know in any video game when you adjust several variables at once to solve an easy issue as bombers spawning and killing people on game start
it should be a two-variable adjustment at best
now AA is just retardedly strong, and this is coming from someone who absolutely loves AA
soft storm
Oh, so you make games then?
full nimbus
is airlift out already?
solid hinge
full nimbus
FUCK
icy sluice
I got the P38 Red Devil
quaint pollen
making games and knowing how to adjust things in a test environment are two different things
solid hinge
the weekly airlifts
idle rampart
I've dabbled in game design, but nothing on the level of BF5. I know I'd probably start by listening to the community and testing my own product more than 2-3 times
full nimbus
I'm out of town 
mossy badge
I got a duplicate Blockade Runner leggins @icy sluice
icy sluice
Leggings
mossy badge
LEGGINS
soft storm
I got hepatitis
mossy badge
MUH LEGGINS
soft storm
Fucking EA
full nimbus
Does AirLife expire after the week?
idle rampart
there is no way you can tell me that bomber spawn kill issue wouldnt be seen within a few games.....you can literally see their entire team spawn on fjell IN THE BOMBER on release
full nimbus
or does it hold up in my inventory
soft storm
it’s like your reward miles
solid hinge
got the same leggings
icy sluice
It should accumulate in the Armory
tacit tartan
Anyone down to getting points in a squad for the V1? (Pc)
solid hinge
Play breakthrough on arras
solid hinge
The last objective when attacking
tacit tartan
I will try
solid hinge
Mark that house and boom
tacit tartan
The hard thing is to get the 40k lol
solid hinge
Yeah, but it's most powerful
tacit tartan
Do I have to be a squad leader or can I be even a normal guy in the squad?
I mean to make it count
golden hatch
Thanks @full nimbus
tacit tartan
Not to launch it
amber notch
It’s bugged currently
tacit tartan
...
amber notch
The v1 kills
solid hinge
Is it?
solid hinge
Epic 
amber notch
Users are reporting to or not being able to complete it
solid hinge
how rare are scraps? (BF1)
Theres no scraps
and how can i earn warbonds? (BF1)
Theres company coins
tacit tartan
"As a squad kill 2 enemies with V1 or JB2 reinforcement."
solid hinge
talking about battlefield 1
tacit tartan
They don't say anything about squad leader
tacit tartan
Wth
solid hinge
will there be xmas sale?
amber notch
Probably
solid hinge
It has 30% if you use the code
amber notch
It’s on sale now isn’t it
quaint pollen
it'd be wild if dice could patch idiots out of the game 🙏
golden hatch
how can they patch out half the dev team :S
quaint pollen
or atleast out of any squad I get stuck with join
amber notch
viscid crater
So actually, I think medic is now broken lol. Not that it's shit. That's its actually op. I can't die. Combination of smokes + suomi is easy kills. Just had like a 9kd last game charging the enemy looool
amber notch
@quaint pollen if you are squad leader you can kick them
quaint pollen
kicked squad mates would be as effective as non-kicked with half the 🐒s in this game
glossy locust
played last night and TTK felt so similar i had to try hard to tell
instant death bug still exists
the people that say they can actually tell the difference must be looking very hard
amber notch
At range you can feel it
glossy locust
like at this point just revert it who cares
amber notch
That’s it really
quaint pollen
I always just tell myself their smg randomly shot a 50 cal into my head and that makes me at peace with the 1 frame deaths
golden hatch
Its very noticeable at range yeah
karmic hull
Try medium rage
glossy locust
i was using semi autos
dense bone
People who are bad shots I think can tell
quaint pollen
anyone who isn't a lazer pointer can tell
karmic hull
Its frustrating to kill.... tap tap tap and he won't die
glossy locust
look i don't care either way, I wish they would just revert it so the playerbase could collectively STFU
dense bone
Agree
glossy locust
can hardly tell the difference
glossy locust
this game has shit netcord
karmic hull
This new ttk makes me leave game and think about my life
glossy locust
like horrendous
dense bone
As suomi m1a1 main there's not much difference for me
west plinth
Thinking about your life is sad? You should work on that.
glossy locust
and i think we might of had some hackers poke their head out finally a dude went 63-8 with the sten
quaint pollen
I don't think battlefield has ever had good netcode the first 6-8 months of each release
amber notch
I despise those users
karmic hull
Fix ttk and ttd so I won't feel that anymore ...NO sir
glossy locust
63-8 on rotterdam with the sten is insane
golden hatch
very possible if youre a good player tbh
rare ermine
Because you won't die to someone spraying bullets.
glossy locust
how can you even go in that main building without being shredded instantly
especially with an up close gun like the sten
rare ermine
Capturing a flag is something you need to do more often now. As you can't sit back and spray the objective.
golden hatch
sten is actually not so bad midrange
dim gazelle
u can feel it pretty hard with m1a1 @dense bone
rare ermine
The assualt rifles aren't sniper weapons anymore.
glossy locust
i dunno, if you're that good you're either a hacker or a top 1% player. I was a top 20% player in bf1 but 64-8 with an SMG is nutty
rare ermine
You just need to be a better player now.
west plinth
When playing with a team it's not really a problem.
novel mason
One of the only weapons that wasn't nerfed was the bayonet 
west plinth
Good, but not hacking-level
novel mason
Well, "nerfed"
glossy locust
he could easily be hacking let's be real there aren't that many good players out there
dim gazelle
@glossy locust u can make it... just take safe kills and not 50 50 battles and u r top
golden hatch
Ive been a top player in some other FPS games, never played battlefield much (BFV with 88hours atm is the most ive played any BF title) and I regularly get scores like 63-8 in conquest. Even better in domination.
Just gotta play careful
glossy locust
i haven't seen a blatant spin bot yet but bf1 was incredibly bad
glossy locust
for like the first 6 months
glad lily
Everyone upset over ttk, and here I am still frustrated how weak the tanks main cannon is against infantry 
glossy locust
battlefield notoriously bad at defending against hacks
dim gazelle
i didnt saw any hacker so far
golden hatch
When we play with a full squad of friends we generally get ridiculous scores because everyone can revive now
west plinth
@glad lily Get the sploosh-gun on the Churchill. It's boomy.
golden hatch
i havent seen any hacker in about 60hours of ingame time
glossy locust
i haven't either last night was the first time i was like hmm
viscid crater
I've seen questionable but nothing concrete
glossy locust
this guy is insanely good
golden hatch
theres some really good players around
glad lily
I went 100-20 yesterday
golden hatch
If someone is hacking and not hiding it, theyre gonna have a better score than 63-8 tbh
dim gazelle
now this 100+ scores are more rare cuz most of the players can spot ppl now
golden hatch
63-8 is doable for me and im not a top BF player
dim gazelle
but in the beginning i had like every round someone who had 90+
viscid crater
I've seen people get called a hack at 70-20 like tf
golden hatch
I play with some former BF pro's and they get scores like this quite regularly
glossy locust
only map i could do a score like that was argonne forest
rotterdam seems imposible but i haven't played it that much yet
the interior building
golden hatch
Rotterdam is pretty easy to get crazy scores if you stick around C D and E
dont go near A and B
glossy locust
yeah i also have been maining recon
golden hatch
Yeah thats harder as well
dim gazelle
narvik at a flag or fjell at c fglag is ez too
golden hatch
yea
elfin plaza
Recons ruin every single battlefield game
dim gazelle
or this destroyed rotterdam map how is it called?
rare ermine
Well as a counter point going 50+ kills and losing because you didn't PTFO... Is funny.
elfin plaza
fight me
dim gazelle
my fav map
golden hatch
Devastation
glossy locust
if they actually spot
woven lake
glad lily
Devastation is my city
dim gazelle
no
glossy locust
pretty easy to top the scoreboard as recon with spotting scope
golden hatch
Yeah true
novel mason
Same w/ spamming healing pouches
golden hatch
on Rotterdam, go top of train tracks and just spot everyone near the water
glossy locust
scoreboard equals PTFO
vast heart
I got 197 kills and 1 death yesterday and I was contacted by a navy recruiter asking me if I wanted to joind a udt seal team
glossy locust
you get more points for team oriented activities than kills
rare ermine
It's easy to top the scoreboard playing the game properly. Kills won't get you there.
unborn blaze
Hmmmm
golden hatch
Kills in the right area will
glossy locust
what is crazy is how many level 50s they are
west plinth
Reviving snipers on a hill will too
glossy locust
like did they take off work to play
golden hatch
Level 50 is pretty easy to reach
glossy locust
or do they not have jobs
rare ermine
Objective kills.
west plinth
Level 50 is super easy and fast to reach
glossy locust
no way you using boost?
golden hatch
No
vast heart
Bullshit aside, i play only on week ends and still got to level 50
rare ermine
I haven't tried and I'm 41?
west plinth
20-30ish hours for rank 50
golden hatch
Indeed
vast heart
Idk how you people can’t rank up easily
golden hatch
Most of my conquest games I get 15k to 20k points so it goes pretty quickly
amber notch
Max rank should be increased
rare ermine
They don't PTFO.
dim gazelle
we need a level 1000 restrictiom
glossy locust
i don't beleive it i'm only level 14 and almost always in the top 25% of score
west plinth
Rank doesn't matter tho 🤷
glossy locust
with about 17 hours
west plinth
Well, then you're maybe on shite servers
amber notch
Or even add prestige ranks
golden hatch
whats your username
novel mason
It does when you're having trouble getting CC 😄
glossy locust
bryjoered
west plinth
MAAAATE
vast heart
I’ve noticed this game was a lot easier than previous bf titles. I’ve skipped bf1 but probably that’s the game that brought in so many garbage players and why now there’s so much whining
golden hatch
Your score per min is really low
west plinth
Your SPM is... something
dim gazelle
187 points per minute? uff
west plinth
0.18 kills per min on assault? How do you even do that?
viscid crater
Wait what?
glossy locust
how do you get higher SPM?
west plinth
Well, play the game... don't... do what you're doing, I guess?
golden hatch
Try capping objectives as any of the other 3 classes
Kill people while u or they are in objective areas
rare ermine
Playing recon poorly means you don't go near objectives.
golden hatch
Gives u loads of extra points
dim gazelle
150 points for defensive kill
vast heart
@glossy locust lemme guess, your first bf game was bf1 on pc, at least
dim gazelle
100? for attack kill?
golden hatch
That should help a lot
glossy locust