#battlefield-legacy-titles | Battlefield | Page 873

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:38 AM

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not sure why we haven't had naval combat since 1942

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:38 AM

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sadly alot of things are going in the wrong direction in BF games since 1942.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:38 AM

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battle of midway was a blast, lurking around in submarines and shit

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:38 AM

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I absolutely hate all squad reviving and the all squad spawing

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Should be squad leader only spawning and Medic only revive

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:39 AM

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probably the only "bad" part of the naval combat was idiots beaching the carriers, even then it was pretty funny

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:39 AM

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im a fan of static carriers

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having them be the base of operations

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:40 AM

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being able to drive em around was fun, just make it so you can't beach them

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Is stg 44 and selbstlader still good after the ttk update

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:42 AM

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No everything went to crap

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Oh;(

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:42 AM

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You can play core conquest to play with the old ttk values tho

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Everything is still good. I don't know what everyone is complaining about. If anything my k/d went up.

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Split community but atleast you get to play with the old ttk

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:43 AM

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hey guys how is everyone ?=

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 9:43 AM

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I hope they change the ttk back to the old one

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:43 AM

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yea my k/d went up

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:43 AM

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And so hopes like 70% of the community

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But dice is ignorant

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:43 AM

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so did mine specially with sniping lol

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:43 AM

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I went 74-20 with the Sten earlier, with the new TTK. People are just shit at the game and blame the ttk

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:43 AM

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TTK seems perfectly fine honestly just outaim the enemy and get headshots

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headshots re so much more important now

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:44 AM

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I own on both ttk values. I just dont enjoy the new one

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I think its frustrating

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:44 AM

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I think people are complaing about the TTK is becasue they not good at headshooting,and are more depending on body shots

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:44 AM

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I find the only difference now, is I can take a few hits and react to getting shot. And if my aim is better than them, they die

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I really don't see what the outrage is

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:44 AM

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yea its really not bad.

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Netcode is still bad though

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Dice is lazy and dont seem to know how to fix their netcode so they chose this bandaid fix

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Fixing the netcode with the new ttk would probably appease everyone

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:45 AM

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I get 1 frame deaths maybe.... once or twice a game

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:45 AM

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the new ttk makes the medic guns feel even shittier than before

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Dice needs to fix their netcode bullshit and revert the ttk, the game will be fine

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:45 AM

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I do absoultely fine with the medic guns

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 9:45 AM

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I cant play assault aggressively anymore with out wasting all my ammo

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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good thing ?

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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it is a good thing, enhances attrition

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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means support plays a bigger role supplying ammo and attrition is important

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Smgs are somewhat fine on devastation and stuff, but beyond 20m they suck ass

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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No i die to much from lmgs

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Static LMGS should shred everyone

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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The mp34 is fine at range, so is the sten and mp40

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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however Recons should obliterate static mmgs

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Lool no not at all

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Their recoil and drop off are stupid

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:47 AM

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no they are perfectly fine if anything their damage drop off should be increased

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MMGS are the king of infantry.

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Gibo what game are you playing

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Once set up and static they should obliterate anythig in front of it

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and hold positions

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:48 AM

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got my full gold mg42 earlier, that thing (when the bipod works) is so satisfying to use

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:48 AM

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bipods need a complete rework imo

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:48 AM

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yeah they do

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:48 AM

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Bipods should be manually deployed and once locked in should not be undeployable

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 9:48 AM

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Yeah but i cant get gold because of new ttk and more recon players

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:48 AM

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ever tried placing one on the railing when you are on the train bridge on rotterdam?

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:48 AM

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you would have to manually undeploy the bipod to get up and sprint

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:48 AM

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it's a lesson in frustration

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Bf5 can be such a great step in the franchise, but they are throwing it

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:49 AM

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I am just thankful for a few things in BF5.

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:49 AM

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latitudes the medic guns lose all gunfights at any kind of range they're shit

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:49 AM

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BF5 sets a good foundation

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Give dice time they will fix it

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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Bf5 shouldnt be the foundation tho. This should combine all good things from past bf games

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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i shredded with the mp28 before now I cant do shit with it

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so bad

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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GWqlabsCoolStory

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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every BF game is different

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BF1 was a downgrade

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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tried mp40 also it's bad

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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@solid hinge maybe they just don't suit your playstyle. I do fine with them

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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Bf1 and hardline were crap

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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BF1 imo is the worst BF game in the franchise

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and im including BC1

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and hardline

lusty veldt Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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Makes me wonder why i have faith in dice sometimes

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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I agree with that, I hated BF1

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 AM

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Bf4 tho GWqlabsCoolStory

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:51 AM

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BF4 was good but it was also a slight step in the wrong direction

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BF4 introduced spawning into vehicles

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:51 AM

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BF1s main problem was the explosive spam. I couldn't get past it

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made it really tedious to play

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:51 AM

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just because bf1 was different doesn’t make it a bad game

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:52 AM

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no

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Because BF1 was a meat grinder arcade shooter

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:52 AM

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If it wasn’t a battlefield it would be game of the year

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Bf 1 was very much a bad game.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:52 AM

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there's different, and there's not being able to move without being surrounded by 5 grenades, gas, fire

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:52 AM

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I didn’t like it as much but it was a great game

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:52 AM

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BF1 was DICe trying to add noob friendly crap into the game and it did not work

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Worked better than bfv current state

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:53 AM

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God people just shit on games

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:53 AM

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The biggest sin BF1 did for me was take something as vital to ww1 like artillery and make it a stupid chore of clicking on the map and getting free kills....

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 9:53 AM

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So they should

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:53 AM

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I mean even a shit game has so much to praise

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:53 AM

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I just hope they never add 3d spotting to another battlefield game, that change alone is amazing

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:54 AM

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Hardline has absolutely nothing going for it, that’s fair, it was a terrible game but bf1 was a brilliant game it just didn’t work as a battlefield game as much, if there had been a modern battlefield instead bf4 would go down as an alright game nothing more

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:54 AM

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yea 3d spotting in bf5 is a great thing, its so limited and now its absolutely intentional via spotting scope or mmg suppression

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Hardline was smoother and consistent and had atleast double the content that BFV had

snow crater Dec 14, 2018, 9:55 AM

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wow this game is fucking bugged

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Even Bf5 feels like a bunch of recycled Bf1 content.

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Hardline wasn’t shit

snow crater Dec 14, 2018, 9:55 AM

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my team has 1 plane in the sky on twisted steel ( supposed to be 3 max) and i cant even get 1

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:56 AM

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hardline was really cool it took Battlefield to a place it never been before but the Battlefield playerbase doesn't like new unfortunately

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:56 AM

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I've noticed there is something up with the vehicle selection. Sometimes I'll be waiting on the deploy screen for a tank/plane, and they'll just never show up. Teammates will get them however

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Hardline wasn’t lol

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Hardline map design is better than BFV and we're practically in 2019

snow crater Dec 14, 2018, 9:57 AM

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welcome to bfv @lime stirrup

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:57 AM

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I can believe the let’s just hate games because has gotten this far

snow crater Dec 14, 2018, 9:57 AM

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my teammates have 1 plane in the sky and we dont get a new one

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:57 AM

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The best part about Hardline was driving around blasting "whoop whoop, dats da sound of the police!"

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:57 AM

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@solid hinge cause it's cool to hate on games especially EA games

snow crater Dec 14, 2018, 9:58 AM

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also landing gear is 100% pointless

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it never opens

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ever

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 9:58 AM

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It’s Moronic people work on these games for two years and bf v’s problem is they made 3 years of game development in two

snow crater Dec 14, 2018, 9:58 AM

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and when it does you can never pull up and you are too slow

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 9:59 AM

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So what do you think DICE's next moves are going to be?

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:59 AM

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Well actually they did it in 1 year. You forget they also had to develop Star Wars

snow crater Dec 14, 2018, 9:59 AM

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i think bfv was made into like the star wars bf2 pay2win but after the backlash they had to cancel that and scrap like half the game

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 9:59 AM

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Because if you think anything like I do it's going to be long and tedious

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 9:59 AM

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the problem is EA is forcing Dice into 1 year development cycles

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:00 AM

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I still can’t believe people are criticising bf v for a lack of content when it has more than any other game did at release

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:00 AM

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BFV had a severe lack of content

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:00 AM

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I'm fine with the amount of content in BFV, not sure what everyone is complaining about

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:00 AM

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it feels like its recycled bf1 stuff

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:00 AM

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What is this sever lack of content

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people are complaining just to complain

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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its a direct result of a short dev cycle

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Exactly

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it's all it is these days

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Maps weapons progression

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Progression fair play

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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BF5 should have focused on mp and not wasted time on the stupid sp stuff

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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I have so many assignments and guns to work though, and vehicles. I haven't even touched the VGO yet

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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We're capped at 50 which you can reach sub 24h with no means of CC

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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BF5 should have came out around spring 2019 with more content

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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You can max rank a weapon in 1 or 2 good games

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The game has a lack of content wether you agree or not

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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How good are you?

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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It's factual

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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max rank isn't anything, the assignments take far longer

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Which is better turner or Gewehr 43?

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Assignments for gold shooters? I'm not 10

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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The assignments take 15 games to complete for most weapons

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Gewehr

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Thx

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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I don't do them for the gold camo, I do it for the challenge

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and it helps me learn the gun

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:03 AM

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I fully completed selbstalder in less than 10 games

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:03 AM

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I mean the rank progression is shit but there is so much to play for beyond that

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:03 AM

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Really? You think that

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:03 AM

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And maps and weapons wise I see very little they could add beyond hat moronic Americans just can’t handle that they didn’t enter the war for years

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Is the selbstalder good

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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The game screwed historical accuracy so it doesn't matter

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Just because it hasn’t launched as d day m1 garand spam doesn’t make it lacking in content

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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air superiority mode Battle of Britain would be great

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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And its a game

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Selbstadler is best semi auto in my opinion

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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not a fucking textbook

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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I honestly thing the big area that DICE should increase the replay ability is by adding supplemental complex systems that players can pick and choose. More combat roles, more complex styles of gameplay etc

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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more combat roles would be nice

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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Ok suggest some then lol

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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But the stg

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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Complexity or the ability or option for complex gameplay is vital for this game to last a long time.

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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Yeah a game I paid for so I expect a fully working product with content which justifies the money I paid for it

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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Sure i can suggest quite a few cookies

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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The reason devs shit on consumers are because the standard is so fucking low these days

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Well one reason

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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Support combat role : Sapper - starts off with 4 AT or AP mines vs the current 2.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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I'd like to see recon get access to sticky dynamite

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

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I mean you can’t just claim you didn’t get your money’s worth because as a release it’s smooth as shit compared to most bf releases

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

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yeah, people forget what BF4 was like haha

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Yeah but stop comparing it to other bf releases

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I don't give a fuck what happened years ago

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

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4 mines???!!!!

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Tanks wouldn’t be playable

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Support Combat role : Fortification specialist : Looses the mmg but gains ability to build field guns/ heavy machineguns/ mortars or howtizers at any of their locations.

median raven Dec 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

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The launch was absolutely terrible

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

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I'm not sure an AT mine has ever killed my tank

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:07 AM

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cookies currently the support can place 3 at a time

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:07 AM

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they are so situational

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:07 AM

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1 more isnt that bad

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also ap mines take 2 to kill 1 person

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1 only does like 56 ish damage

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and most of the time ap mines do almost no damage due to the insane run speed.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:08 AM

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at/ap mines are so easy to spot, it's kinda useless. They should sink them into the ground more

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:08 AM

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i have some success with them

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:08 AM

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Yeah just make it so that the moment one big assignment involving them comes up then the game is fucked like bf1 was

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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problem is it takes 2 to kill so i use 2 to cover my flank mostly

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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there is an assignment next week to use AT mines, so that'll be fun

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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I’ve already died twice within 5 seconds because of well placed spawn mines

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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poor tankers

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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Tanks are fucked then

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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only if you are blind

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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their tanks are already difficult to go agressive with

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now half the server will hunt em down

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:10 AM

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yeah next week is all about vehicle combat, will be interesting

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:10 AM

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its not about being blind tho

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:10 AM

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I feel like latitudes is the sort of player who gets angry because he only got four kills camping in the middle of nowhere preying on people actually helping their team

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:10 AM

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there are good ways of hiding mines

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:10 AM

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If you think that mines are the obvious you clearly don’t drive tanks

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:10 AM

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so they are difficult to spot or sometimes impossible

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:10 AM

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yeah.... no. I'm super aggressive and typically top the leaderboard. So no.

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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Lol I haven’t met a super aggressive player who needs more ap mines

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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put them among debree, cobblestones, right underneath/next to a car etc

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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^

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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cookies, I'm not talking about AP mines mate

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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on bodies, behind ammo/health crates

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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I mean you were

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:12 AM

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well I said both were easy to spot, and that's a fact

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:12 AM

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im talking about AT mines tho

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😄

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usually i spot them if you just put em on the road then yea they are ez to spot

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:12 AM

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I mean they can be placed so well

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 10:13 AM

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ye

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:13 AM

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Have you tried spotting ap mines places in the trees on narvik???

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:13 AM

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One area I hope they dont royally screw up in bf5 is the artillery

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we all know its coming too

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now we see if they turn it into easy mode noob bf1 artillery

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:13 AM

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one AP mine isn't enough to kill you, most recons don't place them both on top of eachother

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I can probably count on one hand the amount of times I've been killed by them

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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i get like 6 kills a round with em

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as support though

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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In a game where health is crucial ap mines on an objective can fuck up like 3 players

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I’m seeing them placed everywhere

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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eh, maybe I'm playing against retards then

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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i rarely see them especially in conquest where so much of the map is mine free

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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I mean I’m not an idiot but I don’t play look at my feet every step for a mine simulator

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:15 AM

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maybe it's because I mainly play breakthrough?

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:17 AM

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I mean ap mines are starting to become a problem because people are starting to realise that most players will happily run and gun on 60 odd health

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:17 AM

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maybe

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:17 AM

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I’m seeing them everywhere

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One game a few days ago I was hit four times by them none of them were near an objective

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:18 AM

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anyway mines don't really concern me, I'm more scared of molotovs 😃

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:18 AM

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I’m more scared of mines, at least Molotov’s are easy asf to spot

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:18 AM

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love those things, way more useful than grenades

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:19 AM

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And you have a chance to kill someone with a Molotov

frosty finch Dec 14, 2018, 10:19 AM

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Want to Say thank you for creating these groups. Great Job getting us together. Last few days been thinking that with the progress of time games also progressed from single player story mode to teamwork and became social so to maximize dopamine release team related pleasure is a must skill! xD

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 10:19 AM

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Whereas mines are just randomly placed now as skill-less booby traps

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:19 AM

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you can run away from them, if you hear that "pop" sound you have about 1 second to back up

frosty finch Dec 14, 2018, 10:20 AM

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If anyone has problem with internet try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7pppHaGfs

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:21 AM

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#1 thing I want dice to do however is remove the 3rd person aiming circle for bombers

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cookies properly placed booby traps take skill, you have to account for run speed, distance, choke points, visibility etc

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:22 AM

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I disagree, the bombers have been toned down so much they aren't a problem anymore

topaz dome Dec 14, 2018, 10:22 AM

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bfv $30 on amazon for pc

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:22 AM

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I like the 3rd person aiming thing tbh

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:22 AM

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yea so is BO4

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:22 AM

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I want the old suppression mechanic from bf1 back

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:23 AM

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having your vision and aiming fucked?

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:24 AM

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yea

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i want RO2 suppression

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aka PTSD mode

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only for mmgs though

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:25 AM

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yeah

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:25 AM

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mmgs should be the only suppression causing weapons LMGS even shouldnt

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bren, vickers or any of the shoulder aim down sight guns should not cause suppression but mg42, mg34 should

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:25 AM

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mmgs are already strong enough

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:26 AM

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eh, personally I would prefer all weapons to be able to cause the suppression, maybe make it so MMGs suppress the fastest?

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:26 AM

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yikes, no thanks

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:26 AM

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well if every gun did it , suppression would lose its potential effectiveness

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dice would nerf it

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:27 AM

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right now it feels like even if I spraying lead at a guy's location, they can still line perfect headshots

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:27 AM

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if mmgs only got it then it would become a vital gameplay mechanic for mmgs making DICE make it nice and powerful

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:27 AM

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I don't expect to kill them, but they shouldn't have perfect accuracy either imo

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:27 AM

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Suppression should be so powerful with mmgs that a sniper could not accurately fire back

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:27 AM

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MMGs only getting it sounds okay, I guess

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:27 AM

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force them to keep their head down so they can recover and gain accuracy

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:29 AM

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right now, it feels like as long as I don't actually kill the sniper before he aims at me, it doesn't matter how long I've been suppressing him, his accuracy is still 100%

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:29 AM

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it is

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thats part of the problem they do not loose accuracy any from suppresion

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:30 AM

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yeah

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eh, personally I feel they could introduce the whole accuracy reduction from suppression specifically for the machine gunner perk, but that's just me

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:35 AM

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yea for the machinegunner combat role

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There is so many combat roles they could do but they need to make them drastically different

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:36 AM

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maybe just tweak the suppression perk for them so they reduce enemy accuracy when suppressing

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:36 AM

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should be both a visual and an accuracy reducer Im in favor of the ol screen shaking violently so it hits where the reticle is aiming

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 10:37 AM

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so the bullet still goes where the reticle is aiming, but is constantly moving?

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:39 AM

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yea

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its been done before in some realistic BF style games like squad

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 10:40 AM

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Gewehr 1-5 or stg 44

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:40 AM

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1-5

wild nymph Dec 14, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Ok

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:41 AM

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love that gun

spiral adder Dec 14, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Stg select fire

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Cant go wrong

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Select fire changes recoil patern too!

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:42 AM

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my Secret desire for BF5 though is so unlikely and obscure.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Gewehr 1-5 assignments are fucked tho. Can't get the last 3 or 4 gold parts

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:42 AM

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I only want a gameplay option to toggle a ui degree and azimuth display

spiral adder Dec 14, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Does anyone get buggy hit detection with tank mgs? Eg heaps of blood on enemy at range but no dmg?

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 10:42 AM

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for that sweet long range indirect fire with tanks and at guns

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:42 AM

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You complete mastery IV, and instead of mastery V it gives you prof V

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then you get duplicate mint parts, bit messed up

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 10:59 AM

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Wow

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I never realized how decent medium tanks are

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 10:59 AM

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lights are even better

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Lights don’t have insane frontal armor tho

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:00 AM

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staghound/38T wreck, and can move like the flash

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Against pesky panzerfaust

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:00 AM

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don't need it, they are so fast

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Staghound is just BF4 APC with autocannon

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Brings my PSTD back

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But yeah

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Climbed two levels in one round

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Just farming infantry left and right

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German btw

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Something I don’t quite like is that they have a lot of arc to their starter cannons

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:03 AM

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I'm trying to level up the "trash teir" planes atm, it's rough. Both stukas, mosquito, and the blenheim without bombs

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Stuka B1 is competent if you stick to left path

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Mosquito too if you get the 20mm

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:04 AM

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stuka is fine since you can seat switch to get fighters off your back, mosquito tho.... 1 seat

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:04 AM

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B2 needs a buff with the 37mm and the paratrooper one is just trash

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:05 AM

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I have no idea how I'm going to level the blenheim though, all you have is... a spotting camera, no bombs, shitty front gun

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:07 AM

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Kek

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Probably have to strafe infantry

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:07 AM

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I guess, unless you can just level it with spot assists

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:07 AM

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They need to make it start with autocannon or something

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:08 AM

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I mean, I'll never use it over the bomber. But I must get it to level 4 because I'm a completionist asshole haha

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:08 AM

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At least they don’t have proficiency and mastery assignments

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:09 AM

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I think they were going to add those to vehicles weren't they

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:09 AM

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gengu

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Shit

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I got my JU88 and starter Blenheim to 4

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Don’t want to do them again for cool skins

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:10 AM

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I can see how having a paradrop bomber would be useful, I just have no idea how I will get it to level 4 so I can unlock that feature

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it should let people spawn on it by default, rather than being a teir 4 unlock

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:10 AM

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Hm

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Doesn’t it have downward guns?

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:11 AM

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I think that's a level 2 unlock

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will have to check

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:12 AM

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Hopefully that makes things better

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Downward guns are actually really powerful

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Every time a fighter tries to shoot me down I can do a 180 and melt it

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:14 AM

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dogfighting in this game is so awkward, if you get someone on your tail gg

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Nah, for two seat bombers you can hop seats into passenger MG and shoot back

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If you’re solo your plane will start stalling

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And the fighters will fly past

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Then you hop back to front seat and kill them

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:15 AM

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I mean actual dogfighting, against other fighters 😃 the only hope you have is to stall

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Oh yeah

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:16 AM

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you can't out turn them or do any fancy tricks to get em off, just have to stall and hope for the best

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:16 AM

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anyone else feel like the piat should be a support gun ? at the expense of grenades and mines maybe ?

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:17 AM

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The AT mines are honestly awful

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:17 AM

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I think assault has too much anti armor, they should move the sticky dynamite to recon

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:17 AM

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But Piat is not all that great

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:18 AM

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use it as a mortar with the minimap, works okay

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:18 AM

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Unless you’re shooting at targets further away

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Recon with dynamite is bad idea tbh

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They’re almost never on point

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:18 AM

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gives recon a reason to get closer

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:18 AM

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I’d say we give recon AT pistol

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:19 AM

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and assault is already too strong against armour

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:19 AM

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We get Piat instead

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A light anti armor weapon for the class that’s suppose to be out of harm’s way

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Fits the theme tbh

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:19 AM

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3 panzerfaust rockets, 2 sticky dynamite, and an anti tank grenade. GG any tank against one assault

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it's a bit silly

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and since pretty much everyone plays assault, you are never up against just one as a tank

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Well, sticky dynamites are in similar situations with AT mines

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They do like 50 at most

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:21 AM

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yeah but you can actually use them

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putting down mines is hope and pray at best

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:21 AM

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True

neat flax Dec 14, 2018, 11:21 AM

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You can use at mines as a makeshift dynamite though

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In my experience it does the job pretty well against tigers and churchills

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:23 AM

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well you have to run up, place them, then shoot them

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too bad if the tank just moves forward

neat flax Dec 14, 2018, 11:24 AM

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That's true

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:25 AM

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and as far as placing them on roads goes, they are so easy to spot I don't think I've ever run over one

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:28 AM

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Aren’t the datamined upcoming magnetic plug tank killer for support?

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:29 AM

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📎 Spawn-Beacons.jpg

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justright

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Lmao

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Don’t you love those placements

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 11:32 AM

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Let's make a petition

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for a x3 on the M30 drilling GWfroggyWeSmart

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:33 AM

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x5 for Drilling

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No scope glint

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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I am fucking invincible today 5 games played two flawless fighter games with 9 and 18 kills, a 24 and 3 with god knows how many captures and two other 4.5 of games

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I’m all for scope glint I just think it’s a joke how powerful it is

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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27/2 just now

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Mostly tank

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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you were giving me shit earlier for being a passive player who only gets 4 kills per match

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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But got a few MG42 kills

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:37 AM

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I average over 60, so your 18 is omegalul to me. Just saying 😃

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:37 AM

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I meant 4.5 kd not 4 kills each game and as someone only attacking planes on narvik 9 kills is pretty difficult especially when you have two people on the other team on aa guns

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 11:37 AM

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i had a great game on Arras where i killed 10 people in a row on a point that was infested of ennemy

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while on the top MG of a halftrack

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GWfroggyKermwut

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Lol I’m talking fighter pilot games I’m not flexing on 9 and 18 kills

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 11:37 AM

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shit was funny

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:37 AM

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The absolute mad lad

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Top MG is suicide

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Yeah man

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but actually, its much more viable with the crouching

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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my best game is like 73 and 19 i believe

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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And averaging over 60 kills a game in 90% or cases means you play like a gaping c*nt

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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and i actually start to be able to kill while using blind fire

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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I'm just aggressive 😃

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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BF109 can easily do 60 per game tbh

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Yeah no aggressive players don’t get 60 kills

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Explosive bullets are amazing

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Nah on maps like devastation you can easily do that Shit

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Can someone post something in #giveaways so I can check if my nootifications are set up correctly?

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📎 PeepoPing.png

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Like even god level players aren’t gonna hit 60 kills every game playing ptfo unless they are on breakthrough or operations

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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btw m30 drilling is a beast

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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60 is average, I've hit 110

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Holy shit, I got trusted. I didn't realise my memes were loading inline 😂 Thanks @wary mason this is a great christmas present.

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:40 AM

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@solid hinge frontlines its easily doable if its a long game dude lmao

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Waitttt what game mode are you playing

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Yeah frontlines as well

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:40 AM

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grand ops/breakthrough

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Ok that’s not even a flex then

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Lol

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I’m talking conquest

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:41 AM

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conquest I usually hit around 50

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:41 AM

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assault is way too anti tank focused

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its silly

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:41 AM

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I play too ptfo to hit anything about 30-40 most games

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

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ptfo is my mantra dude

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

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you can ptfo and still get a ton of kills dude

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

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always squad lead, always going for objectives

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

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one doesnt cancel the other out

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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I mean yeah you can but in almost every case a support player hitting 50 kills a game is not playing ptfo

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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@pliant geyser Yeah lol, a single assault can take out tanks so easily.

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2-3 rockets and an AT granade.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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depends on how you play, support is just as viable as any other class

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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An assault player fairs easily doable

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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aggressive Support with Ke7 can do it aswell

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yea, assault is easier ofc

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but still doable

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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Support has the benefit of being able to replenish their own AT rounds with the ammo crate.

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But it does take way too long

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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Yeah but averaging 50 kills a game as assault

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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to be really effective

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Using the ammo crate

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yikes

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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@amber notch MEd crate is bad, ammo crate is better

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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ke7, bren, fg-42, lewis.... they can all perform as well as assault

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Ammo pouches don't give you the rounds for the AT gun as support

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but the crate does

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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As a ptfo weapon not in this game

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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@lime stirrup debatable

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Ammo crate refreshes gadget uses fam

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FG is kinda shit now

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Fg42 now is fairly strong, but it was much better

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Much

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better

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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you have to pick your battles and angles more than assault, true

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but it's doable

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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What's that gun called the support class gets for anti-tank?

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The Granade launcher?

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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At pistol?

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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I don’t think I’ve seen many a player go as support and drop a 50 kill game while keeping up with me as an assault or recon player

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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or something like that

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Think you mean AT pistol

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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AT Grenade Pistol

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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well cookies I'd be happy to squad up

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Ye

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Ah yeah, that's the one

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Fairs

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What platform

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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It's pretty OK. And you get unlimited ammo for it with the ammo crate. Just takes a long ass time.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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pc

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Bren is a bit of a meme btw

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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meowban

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Ah my pc needs a revive lol

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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oh so you are talking about console gameplay? maybe it's different

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Nah im on console and agree with u tbh

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Even then I’m a stranger to the platform now I don’t like pc gaming

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Average about the same amount of kills

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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piat should go support

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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What no lol

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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weird assault gets 2 anti tank weaponds

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Oh fuck, I totally forgot dynamite. So as assault you have 2-3 AT rockets, one AT granade and 2 dynamite bundles. 😂

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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grenades should not be class specific

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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^

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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yea that too

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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WHy does support not have smokes

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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agreed

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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in all honesty

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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yeah

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Everyone need smoke

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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@amber notch BUT MUH TEAMPLAY

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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At the bare minimum

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Medics i understand

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But not recon

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Article13frog

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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only the offensive nades should destroy fortifications

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only stick nades and sticky nades

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

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breading

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Yeah assault gets two anti tank weapons because that’s their job

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

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I say frag, impact and smoke should be universal

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And one anti tank nade

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

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thats silly too

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

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That’s like saying support shouldn’t get all the ammo

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

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I miss dedicated anti tank classes

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Nah give medic ammo crates

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

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I mean

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Assault is dedicated anti tank

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Support is not very effective

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:49 AM

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I think because assault is already the infantry killing king, at all ranges, they should lose some anti armour viability

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give the sticky dynamite to recon

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 11:49 AM

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If anything support is a harasser

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Oh assault is ridiculous atm

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The gewher needed a way bigger patch

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And the stg is just god now

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I love it

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:49 AM

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I actually prefer the 1-5 over the 43

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:49 AM

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I’ve seen a lot of people say that but I didn’t feel it

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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DICE needs to address that medic crates are literally a waste of data, at this point in time they do nothing, medic pouches should be limited to say 5-10, every time you heal someone or yourself, it deducts one from the amount you have.
Make medic crates an AOE, but not too large, and not giving lots of health back in .3 of a second.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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30 round mag, fast fire rate, it can shred like 4 people before a reload

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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And my friend keeps on banging on about the m1a1 but for me it just shoots bb pellets compared to the gewehr

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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I also hate how medic bandages work right now

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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M1 is so good lol wdymmmm its my favorite gun

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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shoot someone to 1 hp, press c immediately gain health....

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you should be out of combat to use the bandage

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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@amber notch medic crate should let you carry 2 bandages, like if you resupply rockets and can get 3 from a station

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Not instantly

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Like the gewehr does twice the damage for a tiny bit more recoil why use the m1a1

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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taking damage does interrupt the healing

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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@lime stirrup what?

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Idk, if u get used to it ita really ez to hit headshots imo and thats what makes it so good

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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im talking about you should not even be able to use the healing if you just took damage

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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did they say if they will increase lvl cap ?

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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it should be an out of combat thing

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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They kinda hinted towards a lvl cap increase

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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basically, he's saying that if you resupply while alr having a medic pouch from a medic crate/station, you should be able to hold two

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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@amber notch so at the moment medic crates are useless because it has the same functionality as just throwing a bandage. The ammo crate lets you resupply gadgets, so the medic crate should let you carry 2 bandages if you supply from it

pliant geyser Dec 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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I don't know if I like that.

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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maybe just give it the aoe healing from other BFs

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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then they would need to do the same thing with ammo crates....

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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At lvl 15 assault, what gun should I be using?

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Well otherwise it's useless

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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they do though

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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M1 or STG 1-5 imo @livid sinew

rugged cairn Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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resupplying from suppyl crates/stations gives you an extra gadget

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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cool, thanks. Will check out.

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Having the med crates having an AOE while decreasing the amount of bandages you get for medic or giving a number for the amount you carry when you spawn is the better option by far

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Yeah but the gewehr is a double tap with one headshot

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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@muted valve but you can already resupply gadgets from the ammo crate. Medic crate offers nothing over the medic throwing a bandage at you

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Wrong pow

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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there are multiple pows?

little creek Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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well released ttk will back to vanilla bfv? or not?

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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We dont know

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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No I bet

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Hopefully the TTK stays

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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They will adjust accordingly

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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and they just do damage increase

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here and there

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:55 AM

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yeah I like the TTK changes

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Just give lmg's damage increase

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:55 AM

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it hasnt affected me

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in any form

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:55 AM

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me either

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Same

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:55 AM

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still manage to stomp people

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even with the "unusable STG"

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breading

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:55 AM

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all it has done has let me react against players who can't aim, which is great

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Reddit is just buch of crybabies

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Tbh

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I get why people like the m1 because the recoil is non existent but the amount of times I hit someone 3 times and think I wouldn’t have had a problem with hittin them with the gewher and I would have got a kill is a joke

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laughs in stg-44

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:56 AM

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I'm just scared Dice is going to flipflop on the changes because Reddit has gone into full retard mode

grave loom Dec 14, 2018, 11:56 AM

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Idk, Just prefer it tbh
If you get used to its pattern you can fire so fast that its better than the gewehr imo
I can see why u prefer more damage tho

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:56 AM

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Moments ago, one of my friends asked why it takes 9 bullets to kill someone with an smg now i asked who told you that "found it on reddit"
I had to explain to him that that is for long range fights only

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:57 AM

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Reddit is god damn cancer

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:57 AM

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OMEGALUL

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Uhh

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:57 AM

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Least the game isnt filled with people using the m1a1 now

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thank fuck

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:58 AM

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In was camping the whole game with my sniper. Got 35 objective kills wesmart

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:58 AM

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Everyone makes out like reddit is the authority on the entire community

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at most it's probably 5% of the playerbase

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Lets be honest. More than 80% of the community hates the new ttk

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Most players are just assuming its bad because they need an extra bullet to kill now.
I feel like they will revert it back to the old TTK, but they have implemented this new TTK to allow them to have time to find out why the TTD is so fucked

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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according to who?

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reddit?

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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No

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Most likely

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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So where do you get those facts from Weeo

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Reddit is by far the biggest part of the community of course it should be listened to more

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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breading

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Everyone is shitting on it on this server

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It shouldn't

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Youtubers

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Etc

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And yt comments

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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what

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its divided

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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one youtuber has shit on it, and who gives a fuck what westie thinks

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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Ive seen like 5 positive commentd

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If siege developers would listen to reddit thr game would be trash

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On reddit?

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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Jackfrags made a better video

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tbh

swift condor Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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Not just westie

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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I agree with Jackfrags

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seriously

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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Danny on pc

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Jackfrags

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Are you kidding me, game ended when I had hit a spitfire for 98

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Westie

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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jack and battlenonsense are the only dudes worth watching, maybe lvlcap sometimes

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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Tbag

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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all they need to do is increase the damage

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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Everyones shitting on it

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

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slightly for smgs

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and they will be fine

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And add buffs here and there

swift condor Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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TTK was fine, just guns need adjusting

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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^

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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It wasnt the TTK

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Ogga bogga, I need one more bullet to kill someone

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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it was the TTD

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thats why everyone is mad

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Game is dead

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I love bf YouTube but all they do is go on about the negative stuff in the game

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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People would die in literally .1 of a frame

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Why r you here then? @solid hinge

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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and dice stated they dont know what causes this

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Basically everything is compared to bf4

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Because I can?

swift condor Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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But the model 8 still two shots so jokes on you @amber notch

sudden hedge Dec 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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the .1 frame death was a server tick problem

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

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The model 8

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yikes

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THe Zh does the same thing

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

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Your name gives me aids so i aint gonna argue

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

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if you want to compare the two

swift condor Dec 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

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Three shot actually

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

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@solid hinge No need to insult my members.

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

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Sure kanye

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

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the ZH two shots still

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breading

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Il just drop it cuz i dont like arguing

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Il come back when they change the ttk back to normal FeelsMeowMan

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

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omegalul

swift condor Dec 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

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I've never managed to get two shot kills close or long range

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

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It is normal

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No

swift condor Dec 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Might be the server though

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

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most peoples arguments against the ttk are "well, if I come up against 2 players who don't see me I die now". Yeah, if you can't aim.

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:04 PM

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The ZH always two shots people

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would always do it in the old ttk

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and im almost certain it still does

sudden hedge Dec 14, 2018, 12:04 PM

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beta felt so good

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:04 PM

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Just not as constantly at range now

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:04 PM

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I can still back rage, take out multiple people

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:04 PM

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mhmm

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:04 PM

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and I don't die so easily against people not aiming well, amazing.

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:05 PM

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Love turning on people with the stg 44

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tbh

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Its so satisfying

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"wtf hax, new ttk is ass"

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tbhfam

swift condor Dec 14, 2018, 12:05 PM

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The MP40 is a laser weapon change my mind

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:05 PM

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you arent wrong

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🤷

sudden hedge Dec 14, 2018, 12:05 PM

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just use the sten...

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:05 PM

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FG42 is better

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:05 PM

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dude, I have been going for the sten gold assignments, which is typically regarded as trash with the new ttk. I still take out multiple people, and can turn on people and finish them before they do me

swift condor Dec 14, 2018, 12:05 PM

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Sten has a little more recoil than MP @sudden hedge

sudden hedge Dec 14, 2018, 12:06 PM

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if your on pc the sten is basically still a laser

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 12:06 PM

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@lime stirrup yes, but apparently being able to turn and outplay is bad and shouldnt happen

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kappa

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"positionning" Kappa

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Bad enemies tbh

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:07 PM

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I mean, I do feel kinda bad. I can be out of position now and take a few hits, get into cover, and then murder them

gentle forge Dec 14, 2018, 12:07 PM

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have they fixed the TTK stuff yet?

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:07 PM

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so is that more skilled or less skilled?

gentle forge Dec 14, 2018, 12:07 PM

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or should I just not bother playing medic

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 12:07 PM

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if you were not skilled you'd stay here and die

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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but its just my opinion i guess

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Don’t bother with medics unless your gun is fast

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So Tommy or Suomi

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 12:08 PM

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bae guns

quaint pollen Dec 14, 2018, 12:08 PM

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the way you have to push/position with the new ttk sets up more instances of me having issues with 1 frame deaths. Seems to be the only issue I currently have with the change (defending is easier now imo)

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:09 PM

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I dunno I feel like it's more skill based now. If you aim for the head, the ttk is literally the same. If you don't, or can't even put every shot on the body, you get punished for it

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 12:09 PM

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those 1frame deaths happens like once every 50 deaths... to me at least

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it's so negilibl

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:09 PM

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I don’t experience them at all because all I use is MMG

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Can’t feel the netcode problem if all you die to is one or two shots headtap

quaint pollen Dec 14, 2018, 12:10 PM

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It feels alot like an issue I had when playing on a gmod server if thats believable

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the old issue was when someone had netloss* it would queue those packets into one and send chunk damage that seems identical to the one frame deaths in bf5

frozen sparrow Dec 14, 2018, 12:12 PM

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@amber notch on the new ttk ZH should 3shot if you hit the legs I think?

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 12:12 PM

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0.85 * whatever damage it used to have

frozen sparrow Dec 14, 2018, 12:13 PM

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since the multiplier is 0.85x and the damage is 54 at best

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:13 PM

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who is aiming for the legs

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tbhfam

quaint pollen Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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dik shots best dps don't @ me

livid sinew Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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damage dropoff

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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drilling is the best gun in the game now

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Change my mind.

quaint pollen Dec 14, 2018, 12:15 PM

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no need

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best gun no contest

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:15 PM

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feelssadman

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:15 PM

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is that the double barreled shotgun?

quaint pollen Dec 14, 2018, 12:16 PM

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double barrel shotgun with a sniper in the middle

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its 🔥

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:16 PM

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i love using shotguns but hate double barrels

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:19 PM

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go upvote t his before the reddit crowd gets to it https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/a64bqs/unpopular_opinion_the_new_ttk_is_fine_and_only/?

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I think I made a pretty reasonable argument for the new ttk

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:20 PM

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This goes against reddit's ToU

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:20 PM

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tou?

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:20 PM

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Terms of Use

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:21 PM

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well, I mean upvote if you agree, I'm not buying off or botting votes 😃

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:21 PM

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Well yeah, but linking it elsewhere so that people would vote for it is still against reddit's ToU

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not that most people follow them anyway

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:21 PM

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is it? so you can't link anything outside of reddit...

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maybe most people in here will downvote me? who knows

novel mason Dec 14, 2018, 12:22 PM

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Really excited that Sirland is back from vacation, I like how blunt he is in most of his tweets

Some of you might be interested in this tweet

https://twitter.com/tiggr_/status/1073508058154835968

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:22 PM

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tiggr is the best thing that ever happened to battlefield imo

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the work he did on bf4 was stellar

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florian is also amazing

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:23 PM

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is it? so you can't link anything outside of reddit...
you can, without asking people to upvote your posts in particular

Yeah, I downvoted it because I like the old TTK better

novel mason Dec 14, 2018, 12:23 PM

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I really enjoy he & Drunkz responses. Always seem very genuine

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:24 PM

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@solid hinge that's cool, just wanted to share my opinion

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I'd love to get florian and tiggr drunk at a bar and talk about battlefield

novel mason Dec 14, 2018, 12:25 PM

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I'd watch a podcast with those two any day of the week

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:26 PM

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podcast would be great, even if it was only 30 mins a week

ripe epoch Dec 14, 2018, 12:28 PM

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Ttk is awfully bad

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What a joke

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:28 PM

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I share many reddit posts in here to get people’s opinion if it gets downvoted then clearly it’s dumb

ripe epoch Dec 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

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Any chance tgey roll the ttk back??

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

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Idk if ttk is as bad as everyone is saying it is, I think the ttd is better as a result of the ttk which is a plus

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

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the ttd is definitely better now

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

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Basically the ttk and ttd can’t be changed individually

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

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outside of netcode issues

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

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I’m happy with this ttk because it means the ttd is better

ripe epoch Dec 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

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Can't kill anyone on the run

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

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yeah you can...

novel mason Dec 14, 2018, 12:30 PM

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TTD Is still just as bad in my experience. Not a whole lot that the TTK can do to change that

ripe epoch Dec 14, 2018, 12:30 PM

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I'm a good shot ..no u cant

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:30 PM

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obviously you aren't

novel mason Dec 14, 2018, 12:30 PM

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Yes you absolutely can lol

ripe epoch Dec 14, 2018, 12:30 PM

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I was before..was easy...now??? Joke

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:31 PM

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I''ve been using the shittiest weapons to test the new ttk (sten, mp-34, anything low rate of fire with shit range), and am doing fine

ripe epoch Dec 14, 2018, 12:31 PM

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They broke it

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:31 PM

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aim for the head, don't miss your body shots

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burst fire if you have to

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:32 PM

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I mean as someone who always aims for the head it really doesn’t bother me too much, in fact I think more accurate players have been rewarded

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:32 PM

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From a bad player perspective it’s a bit bad

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:32 PM

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exactly, it increases the skill ceiling, and emphasizes attrition

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:32 PM

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Though things with larger mag are less affected

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:32 PM

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Get good then

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:33 PM

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Because you can hose people with it

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:33 PM

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I have a feeling all the outrage on Reddit is due to shit players who can't aim, feeling cheated because their half spray doesn't auto kill anymore

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:33 PM

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Rt

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:34 PM

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I’m a support player so it doesn’t seem all that big for me

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However FG has been hit a bit

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:34 PM

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support was largely unaffected

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:34 PM

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I did pick up Suomi and messed around a bit

quaint pollen Dec 14, 2018, 12:34 PM

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support can still chill in their corners untouched

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:34 PM

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I feel like m1a1 spammers are struggling a lot

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And lol rt

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:34 PM

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Those 5 hits make me claw my skin out

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Assault is largely unaffected tbh

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:35 PM

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assault should be aiming for the head if they want the old ttk

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they were body shot kings, and that is rightly nerfed with the new ttk

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:35 PM

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I think most assault guns fire too fast anyways to have that big of an impact

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Medic though

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gengu

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:36 PM

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I feel like high damage weapons are exactly the same so the gewehr is fine for me, I’ve basically had no problems with it

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Just use suomi or m1928a1

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:37 PM

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I love the lower damage assault weapons, like the gewehr 1-5, I still dominate using it. It needed a slight nerf, and this was it

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:37 PM

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Honestly if they tune the medic weapons across the board so its range dropoff isn’t so severe this TTK change is almost decent

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Two support guns can use some tweaking

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Can’t say for assault or recon though because I don’t play them

simple marlin Dec 14, 2018, 12:38 PM

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Yes, they just have to change slighty some numbers of some weapons

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:38 PM

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there is an argument to be made that medics shouldn't be that accurate at range (the sten and mp-34 are pretty good though)

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Oh yeah I’ve seen MP34 destroy consistently

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:39 PM

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it's my overall favourite medic gun

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Felt like BF4 600 rpm support guns

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Just that slow and steadiness

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:40 PM

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I know a lot of people would love semis for medic, but I think with their self healing they'd become terminators

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imagine a medic with a gewehr 1-5

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or selb

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:40 PM

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They’d go straight to backlines with recons again

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Something I always hated

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:41 PM

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hey that is a great point

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with medics being forced as close range, they need to use smoke

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which helps the team push up

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Perpetually reviving each other and milking points because people body each other too much

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And yeah, the smoke is really impactful due to how much you can carry

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Can cover entire lanes

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:42 PM

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medic smoke in bfv is one of the greatest additions

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not only for reviving but for pushes

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and if they had long range weapons, well rip that

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:42 PM

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💦

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:42 PM

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they'd be sitting back and not doing their job

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Hopefully they get carbines

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And not semi

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Well, they’d still do their job

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Just with other backline medics and recons who have been bodied by other recons

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It’s the plague of BF1 all over again

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:44 PM

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I'd be happy just giving medics shotguns, make them close quarters kings

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Shotguns can be a shared weapon, honestly

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Everyone should experience the Drilling

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:45 PM

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I love the drilling

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Medics should stay with SMGs, that's the only thing they need. Anything else ruins the classes style

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:45 PM

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I fucking hate people who just go for c no matter where the game is going I have a whole squad of players who have gone after a pointless objective the entire game

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:45 PM

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yeah I honestly don't have a problem with medics where they are currently

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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Medics are in a good spot build wise. The guns just need to be reworked.

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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well there is one problem, all the smgs are so similar

edgy gale Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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SMG + Smoke Grenade & launcher, the best way to go with a medic

spark quarry Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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true

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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A few but that's how ww2 was, everyone had a variation of something

spark quarry Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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smoke is abused so much in all bf games though

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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The problem of every support gun ever in previous Battlefield games

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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Would love to see the PPSH added 👏

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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gengu

spark quarry Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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like smoke, 12 mg spamming

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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Thank god for MMGs

spark quarry Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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lol tru

tight saddle Dec 14, 2018, 12:46 PM

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Chag

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:47 PM

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@spark quarry That name and PP. thinkk

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 12:47 PM

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Also and this is a really nerdy complaint. Why do medics jam a syringe into downed players? Like some doctor death device. It should be a morphine syrette

spark quarry Dec 14, 2018, 12:47 PM

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?

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:47 PM

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It’s heroine

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HyperZevala

tight saddle Dec 14, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Ya wanna see a real complaint?

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https://youtu.be/-hrXDDzLqwc

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#BattlefailedV

spark quarry Dec 14, 2018, 12:48 PM

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boi

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Fr tho why do people just spend an entire game going to c

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Hmm

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@solid hinge Guess they're used to cod lol

opaque cipher Dec 14, 2018, 12:49 PM

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I do it for my assignments

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:49 PM

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Like we just lost a game because our whole team was trying and failing to capture c

spark quarry Dec 14, 2018, 12:49 PM

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spawn timer (if u dnt move)?

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:49 PM

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Nine times out of 10 you'd fight around the centre flag in domination

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:49 PM

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We had a few good players capturing b and d on devastation

spark quarry Dec 14, 2018, 12:49 PM

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its called Rotterdam lol

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:50 PM

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Yeah but why? You can get so many points just pissing the enemy team off and capping unguarded objectives and what?

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:50 PM

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@solid hinge force of habit I guess idk, trying to explain the playstyles of some people notlikethis

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Yeah but I’m in a squad where there are 3 players dropping a horrible kd dying over and over for the same objective which our team can’t take, I’m capping b taking on 6 peeps and they are like: hmmmmm I shall change class and try again

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:53 PM

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@solid hinge Like I said, some people are dumb. Best thing you can do is try to communicate with them your intentions

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:54 PM

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Yeah but I’m the squad leader putting out orders, if you are gonna ignore them and try and run and gun 20 people with 3 of you go play COD

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Expecting teamwork in random publics with random players is the first mistake

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Dont forget half the server is legally blind and/or braindead at any time

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:56 PM

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Yeah but still I get that braindead idiots will go for c but the whole game they didn’t touch another objective and just died it’s annoying to see from any perspective on your team

bleak anvil Dec 14, 2018, 12:57 PM

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Gameplay designer admits the game isnt balanced after the TTK update. Why the hell was it put in place then? why isnt this being tested prior?

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 12:57 PM

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Tbf I’m not too fussed over the ttk

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If it fixed the shoddy ttd then so be it

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:58 PM

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@bleak anvil Have you seen how much westie is talking out about it? He's essentially calling them out on the lack of communication.

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Jackfrags did a better video

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In all honesty

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Yeah, I like it too.

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Westie just seems like he is jumping onto the bandwagon

bleak anvil Dec 14, 2018, 12:58 PM

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No testing done but fuck it, let's put this in place anyways. GG

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:59 PM

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Nice chat chain on this tho @amber notch https://twitter.com/MrProWestie/status/1073356238774251520

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:59 PM

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One thing Jack said, that was pretty accurate, is that they just need to adjust the damage models slightly now

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and it will be in a good spot

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 12:59 PM

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All the range falloffs are fucked atm. Massively

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:00 PM

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oh yikes

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his comments make me sick

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:00 PM

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westie doesn't know what he's talking about

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:00 PM

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I have to say with this game I think everything is this huge whacking great issue whenever anything is wrong, people need to stop blowing every problem about this game out of proportion

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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agreed

tight saddle Dec 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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#Westie'sANonce

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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The ttk isn’t that fucking bad it’s so much more playable now the ttd is a bit more fixed

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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the reddit is such a clusterfuck at the moment, almost as bad as /r/battlefield and their political agenda

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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I dont think calling DICE out is the best option here, as i said it just sounds like he is jumping onto the bandwagon at this point

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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What does he say I cba to listen to it ngl

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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He basically is annoyed that they changed it

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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nonce, lol

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:02 PM

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didnt really say much to try and fix it

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just complained

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Jackfrags went into detail on what they could possibly do

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:02 PM

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at least jack/battlenonsense have actual input

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:02 PM

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DICE isnt stupid, they are aware they would have gotten loads of hate for doing this

gray glade Dec 14, 2018, 1:02 PM

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especially after the reaction last time they said they thought about it

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:02 PM

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The annoying thing is the ttk was absolutely perfect before and even though it’s worth worsening a bit to get the ttd better, goin from perfect to anything is gonna cause outrage amongst people who are looking for it

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:02 PM

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And they did it regardless, because they feel as though this is something that needs to change

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I feel like its only temporary

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:03 PM

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It's bad when even Dice's multiplayer producers says they went about it wrong. https://twitter.com/tiggr_/status/1073508058154835968

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:03 PM

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I literally am not affected by the ttk, all I notice is the ttd being better

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Statement today HOPEFULLY

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:03 PM

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They are aware of the TTD issue, but they dont know how to fix it atm, so for the time being they implemented a slight fix

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by bumping the TTK

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to try and stop this issue while they work on finding the root of the cause

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:04 PM

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@amber notch He acknowledged that this TTK "fix" only made the TTD issue more apparent. https://twitter.com/tiggr_/status/1073511608704491520

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Exactly latitudes

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:05 PM

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What it comes down to is this. People want to kill indiscriminately with ease, fast ttk, but when it comes to them getting shot they want time to react.

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you can't have both fucker

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:05 PM

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See

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:05 PM

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thinkk

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:05 PM

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looking at those comments

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its just a huge shitfest

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Seriously

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"NotmyTTK" its cringe

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Who cares about the comments?? There's always gonna be the same shit.

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Like i understand the average user doing it, but Youtubers doing it

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yikes

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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the fact that there is SOME kind of communication it's much better

novel mason Dec 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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It's been like that for a while though. I don't think the community will ever stop being this level of upset lol.

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Just reinstates my point about him jumping onto the bandwagon

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Tbh the more I play now the more I think: actually I like this ttk a lot more it’s implementing skill into aiming

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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the ttk outrage is almost as bad as all the sjw bullshit to be honest

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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^

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Its beyond a joke

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DICE is not stupid, they are aware of the huge backlash they would get

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ANd they did it

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thats serious balls

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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People should get outraged at the TTK shit. They told us they WOULDN'T change it

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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Balls or being completely out of touch?

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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^^

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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tbhfam

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Whats wrong with the current TTK

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tell me the real reason

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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It's shit???

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Simple

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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1 extra bullet?

novel mason Dec 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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lmfao

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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So you dont have a proper reason

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Doesn't work out to one extra bullet

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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🤷

autumn iron Dec 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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imagine losing your mind over changes in a video game

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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This tbh

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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It's not as simple as that

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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I mean it was a .85x increase

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🤷

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So it is that simple

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Semi autos yes

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got hit hard

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so did smgs with their range

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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New TTK isnt enjoyable to play in my opinion. I actually do better in-game yet I have less fun because it takes too long to kill people and I survive fights that I really shouldnt have due to my bad positioning

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Half the guns are useless now

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Due to low RPM or low mag size

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Now dice all they need to do is give them more damage, and they can be in a good spot

summer maple Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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most people just like to sit on the rage-train and cry "chu chu chuu..."

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Completely fucked up the balance

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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It's basically halo gameplay at this point

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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0.85x is literally nothing, and it made ttd feel better

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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^

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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They shouldve thought about how this will affect weapon balance before just casually changing all weapon values the same way

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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As i said earlier

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THey did

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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TTD is still dogshit what are you on about lol

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I still get 1frame deaths half the time

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:09 PM

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They think about all factors before doing something like this

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they have shit up their sleeves

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We just dont know it yet

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Lmfao

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:10 PM

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When the Multiplayer of Dice says TTD is still a big issue and it's worse after the TTK patch 👏 Guess he's wrong too right???

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:10 PM

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@viscid crater What exactly is wrong with the TTK

devout edge Dec 14, 2018, 1:10 PM

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No matter what yo think about the TTK, it is quite impressive how Dice managed to yet again split and shrink a community that was already smaller than it could have been. Other companies would need to try hard to achieve that.

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:10 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/a64okx/ttk_omg_outrage_scandal_sack_dice/ there we go I’ve made a nice little anti rant rant

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:10 PM

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I think what happened was. People have an outrage boner for Dice at the moment. And without probably even testing the new ttk model decided to light the torches.

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:10 PM

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I have defended the game since launch but I will not defend the new TTK

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Outrage boner for dice love it

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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tbhfam

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Everyone getting annoyed about a .85 increase

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yikes

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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I love just going on an anti rant rant on Reddit because I love it but reddit needs to be told to calm the fuck down sometimes

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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imagine if they made it a 3.5 increase

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be happy

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tbh

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Numbers dont mean shit

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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You say it likes it's some small deficit?? @amber notch ?

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Your logic is completely flawed POW lmao

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''it could have been a 3.5x increase!''

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Yet those numbers factor how much damage each gun does

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breading

devout edge Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Think it's worse now? Be happy they didn't make it even worse!

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Sounds like you haven't even played since the change xD

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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''10000 people could have died on 9/11 but it was only 3000 so be happy!''

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Your logic

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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LOOL

lime stirrup Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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I just really hope that Reddit (since every fucking post and comment right now is about how ttk change is literally hitler) doesn't affect what Dice does. Reddit is retarded

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Maybe you were dropped on your head as a baby a few too many times @amber notch

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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OK

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Seriously, wtf is your logic lol

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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📎 Desktop_Screenshot_2018.12.13_-_11.51.25.69.png

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I have played the new ttk

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Congrats mate, so have I

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I even got better scores than before

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But i dont enjoy the game as much

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:13 PM

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yikes

solid hinge Dec 14, 2018, 1:13 PM

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Yikes by far the most kills and 5k behind first someone put their tent up and had a nice camp

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:13 PM

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It has no relevance if you can finish top or not. The game feels shit no matter where you end up. You're not rewarded anymore

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:13 PM

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tbhfam

devout edge Dec 14, 2018, 1:13 PM

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Not quite sure how the connection of having good score with how fun a game is works...

amber notch Dec 14, 2018, 1:13 PM

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That was all with the stg

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SpyGlass

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:13 PM

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And your point is?

viscid crater Dec 14, 2018, 1:14 PM

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Can't camp with the STG champ

golden hatch Dec 14, 2018, 1:14 PM

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You like the new TTK, a lot of others dont