@hardy wave i have good to great stats across the board...
#battlefield-legacy-titles
glad lily
Orange man show stats
obsidian fossil
open bob
rugged cairn
I think the one assist was him punting an enemy by accident with the smoke launcher
remote helm
Im a good tanker and always go for the revive as med (i usaly die but less so now since i use smoke)
hardy wave
Stroke your own ego much?
undone steppe
he did hes actually pretty good
dense bone
you said my stats arent good
thats a lie
im not great
but definitely in good area
hardy wave
My stats from bf1 are better lol
And bf4.
I just don’t have time to ply much anymore
viscid crater
I'm a shit support, tank and Pilot rip
undone steppe
post yer bf1 stats
merry ivy
i do
glad lily
undone steppe
glad spire
statfest 😄
rugged cairn
3/10 not enough bayonets on your bolt actions
dense bone
top .01% for spm in bf1
https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/profile/pc/OrangeFeffy
solid hinge
https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/profile/psn/EpicGamer-228 1911 was my baby
hardy wave
glad spire
thankfully bfv is the most casual game
undone steppe
i used to be in top 0.5 spm for bf1 before i quit
viscid crater
My bf1 stats ew wtf
dense bone
all my stats are solo too
merry ivy
weirdly my SPM in BFV is awful but my winrate is pretty good
undone steppe
then they came out with those horrible dlcs
glad lily
Means you got carried
merry ivy
I think its because I mainly play Breakthrough and killing matters a lot in that gamemode
viscid crater
@merry ivy What class do you play?
merry ivy
Support and Assault mostly
viscid crater
There's why
merry ivy
tried medic for a while before giving up
dense bone
alright back to work
viscid crater
Medic is just 
candid plaza
That first week medic gameplay tho
viscid crater
I keep closing and opening BFV ffs, what is wrong with me 😐
rugged cairn
I liked bf1 medic
viscid crater
I can't let it go, but I hate it -.-
merry ivy
TTK update is awful reeeeee
solid hinge
Reeeee
candid plaza
Playing Core Conquest because fuck it
undone steppe
i really want to like the new TTK but i just cant
viscid crater
I don't really enjoy conquest this year
merry ivy
still get one hit by Sten’s but Sten also performs like a super soaker
glad lily
Bf1 with nade and gas spam gives me ptsd
viscid crater
#breakthroughMasterRace
merry ivy
Breakthrough is great
rugged cairn
But ptsd was exactly why I played bf1
merry ivy
I hate musical chairs in Conquest
viscid crater
Yup
candid plaza
Was switching back to PC next year. Hopefully this game will be back to normal by then.
viscid crater
Go to one flag, great they caught the one I caught 2 mins ago, back over there then
👏
merry ivy
Breakthrough allows for you to fight on EVERY OBJECTIVE with consistency
rugged cairn
I enjoy conquest so I can mainly dick around
merry ivy
many objectives in Conquest that never get seen
undone steppe
how are people liking new TTK on ps4?
hardy wave
Yeah new ttk is crap. Unless you are a cod player or just can’t handle dying when someone shoots at you
viscid crater
If I die I blame myself first, not the game. Well until this new ttk shite lol
merry ivy
if you run out into the open and shout “come at me”, you will get erased. but before the TTK update, I survived many shots from enemies
candid plaza
New TTK is being received poorly on here like everywhere else.
undone steppe
kind of figure that
merry ivy
now positioning and flanking matters far less
viscid crater
yup. Now I just cba to even bother working the flank. You don't need to
hardy wave
And here is my bf1 stats
viscid crater
hardy wave
candid plaza
Coming from the PS3 era of Bad Company 1-2 and BF3 I can tell you console players love the OG TTK.
merry ivy
because I shoot and then run out of ammo
dense bone
got complaints? go to
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/battlefield-v-general-discussion
candid plaza
lol
merry ivy
I figure that because I play Breakthrough, having a good KD is important
undone steppe
http://bf4stats.com/pc/Khann96 yeah i no lifed bf1 when they allowed server customization for hardcore
damn thats bf4 stats lol
viscid crater
I'm gonna try and play again. I'll be back with salt in about 20 minutes ✌ lol
merry ivy
if you’re attacking and picking off enemies while trying to die as little as possible, you don’t bleed off many of your own tickets
if you’re defending and kill as many as possible while trying not to die, you can bleed a lot of attacker tickets
candid plaza
Almost all of my old friends from the BF3/4 era were coming back for this one because of the fast paced play style.
hardy wave
http://bf1stats.com/pc/Dbl0Douche. Roast me on these stats
merry ivy
if I can kill 50 enemies and die 10 times on Breakthrough as attackers, that’s great because I only bled 10 tickets while helping to clear off objectives
SPM doesn’t matter nearly as much
also Breakthrough doesn’t devolve into a merry go round of zerg rushes
hardy wave
Yeah I sit off objective a lot and act as a spawn point for my squad
candid plaza
My stats between BF4 and BF1 are night and day because of the TTK and TTD differences in either game.
hardy wave
But usually in an advantageous spot to pick off enemies
merry ivy
I sit off objective when my team gets slaughtered trying to get on it
I’m not going to blindly waste more tickets
at least by picking off their defenders I can clear a path for them
hardy wave
I prefer using skill and tactics as opposed to just running jumping playing like it’s cod lol
merry ivy
and of course they call me a camper while dying 30 times
yay
I’m sure we didn’t need those 30 tickets
hardy wave
Yeah I always laugh when people complain about campers
candid plaza
Depends on the situation. I like to embed my squad on a position if they’re reliable otherwise it WILL become a bloodbath of revive loops and collateral kills.
cerulean dock
who here got it already too? http://prntscr.com/lundic
hardy wave
What you want me to just run in the open so u can hit me lol
merry ivy
well I sit off on angles that expose the enemy defence to my fire so they have to reposition
so my team can get an opportunity to move forward
candid plaza
Gotta love that support class
hardy wave
I’m not big on support. I only really ply assault
hardy wave
Sometimes medic if we need but all I do is heal and revive when I run that
candid plaza
The MG weapons and the Support class are why I really want to love this game.
cerulean dock
so I literally finished this week's tides of war in 30mins
undone steppe
http://bf1stats.com/pc/Khann96 BF1 TTK you could just rush everyone and have zero consequences
candid plaza
When you get an insane level of suppression in and see your team over running the enemy position it feels rewarding.
hardy wave
I can’t wait for the hell let loose game
No more hitting someone 6 times to kill them. And dismemberment lol
candid plaza
@undone steppe matches are very SLOOOOW just like BF1
merry ivy
its not flat weapon TTK that made rushing in BF1 less punished, but weapon spread
dense bone
afaik first bfv ttk was faster than bf1, since they upped bfv it should be close to bf1
grave loom
oh were still talkinng abou TTK? What a surprise
candid plaza
Random Bullet Deviation is the work of Satan
dense bone
its nice
undone steppe
yeah with the new TTK its slower than the slowest TTK in bf4
because of the high rate of fire
narrow tide
Do I have to complete every single thing from the overture chapter to reach lvl 20 in it?
grave loom
No
dense bone
i dont mind complaints or ttk convo, just as long as its not the trash some users spew
candid plaza
Just need the XP
grave loom
I got like lvl 15 just by doing 1st week @narrow tide
cerulean dock
@grave loom http://prntscr.com/lundic have you got this too already?
cerulean dock
it took me 30mins so no worries lol
vivid cape
Firstly, hello all, I have a major question regarding Battlefield V I have selected a badge on my profile out of curiosity it has now applied its self to all my guns. Is there anyway of removing it?
cerulean dock
from 0 to 100
narrow tide
No
candid plaza
Wait is week 1 locked now or can I still earn XP from it?
cerulean dock
locked
grave loom
Think theres an Option in setting, user created content
try turning that off @vivid cape
vivid cape
@grave loom thank you chief I'll give it a try!
undone steppe
locked. you have to buy the vgo at a later date with company coins apparently
cerulean dock
the vgo is shit anywa
candid plaza
vivid cape
^
undone steppe
its not too bad it does overheat fast af tho
candid plaza
Just wanted the XP really. Can’t say I saw a lot of VGO use.
I still love the MG34 tbh
delicate panther
i really love this new ttk, got my highest amount of kills in 1 game just now
vivid cape
All my bolt actions are gold except the receiver cause fuck that challenge
solid hinge
guys if you wanna be really good at BFV you gotta put TTV in your name. to let people know youre a famous streamer who is signed by a professional team
hardy wave
One thing wish bf would do is limit the amount of snipers per team
undone steppe
nah thats gay
vivid cape
Snipers or rifles is the only way to truly dominate t b h
hardy wave
Nah playing an operation with either team having 20 snipers on it is gay lol
novel mason
As long as they put beacons in helpful places, that's enough for me
undone steppe
people should have the freedom of playing any class they want. they used to limit them on dedicated servers
vivid cape
hardy wave
Makes games not fun when most everyone is sitting back sniping. Would encourage people to play different classes and would be a little less camping tbh
vivid cape
I aggressive recon tbh
undone steppe
to me, camping isnt even a big deal in battlefield. its just a playstyle
hardy wave
Some people do ply aggressively as sniper but most do not
vivid cape
Yeah true
hardy wave
I don’t care about camping either
hardy wave
Just saying you would have a lot less matches where one team is not attacking but should be cause there all sniping lol
vivid cape
I need to get 2 kills with B1 last challenge for this weeks thingy
undone steppe
yeah bf1 was a shitshow with the amount of snipers thats for sure
hardy wave
That’s what I’m saying. Limit the number of them and that opens up more fun game play
rocky verge
Kolibre will always be god
undone steppe
and the new ttk will just encourage more people to snipe
rocky verge
hardy wave
And would be a little more realistic too
Cause during ww2 snipers were not a common thing lol
vivid cape
I'm excited for this week 3 rifle
undone steppe
if they absolutely had to limit snipers id say that 10 is a reasonable number
vivid cape
They should really just drop the weeks challenges in a monthly block
Cause it's taking the time
hardy wave
I say five is more than enough but I’d be happy if they limited it to even ten lol
thorn heart
have they fixed tides of war buddy revives yet
vivid cape
Is anyone at level 20 tides of war?
solid hinge
Yes
undone steppe
i say 10 for each team because you have to account for people that need to do assignments etc
hardy wave
The new he’ll let loose game is gonna have 50 v 50 with snipers limited to two per team! Which is awesome
proper sundial
I already got the rat burner on the first day. I’m really not seeing anyone else get it
Not even see the last tiger skin
vivid cape
@proper sundial I don't get that helmet how do you see our if it
hardy wave
Yeah that helmet looks dumb as hell 😂
novel mason
I like the helmet by itself, but it looks so goofy on the models
hardy wave
I just want the new sebtsler (however you spell it)
thorn heart
ratburner is godly on support with the vgo
hardy wave
Lol
undone steppe
@hardy wave i havent seen that game yet but it looks pretty badass
hardy wave
Yeah I love the reg sebltdler rifle
undone steppe
like a new red orchestra
hardy wave
It’s my main rifle
@undone steppe sent you link to the hll discord
If u wanna check t out
Fully realistic. They won’t even listen to you if you cry to them and say someone killed me in one hit 😂
undone steppe
ill def look into it thanks
safe patio
How do I tell the half dead player the medic(me) is on the way?
stray isle
same as spoting
safe patio
On xbox
novel mason
Your spot button
grave loom
RB
hardy wave
If they’re in your squad you can use the left Alta do the voice chat for the squad but other than that you have to type it in check text chat
solid hinge
What’s hll?
solid hinge
I’ll have a look
hardy wave
Hyper Realistic ww2 shooter
solid hinge
Nice
novel mason
Not gonna lie, the UI looks exactly like it does in PS lol. Still looks really neat though, definitely adding to my wishlist
solid hinge
Can you toss me the inv to their discord?
hardy wave
Down to the fact they recreated from old reconnaissance photos eyewitness accounts and actual maps an 8x8 sq km area of France
Only weapons available are what that unit had at that time in the war
Weapons uniforms and equipment all authentic
undone steppe
thats pretty badass that they are making their map based on that
speaking of maps i really wish bf5 would have d day or the battle of berlin but it seems like they arent going to do the popular ww2 battles
solid hinge
What game are we talking about
dim gazelle
they wont do popular battles
sacred hull
they're doing op barbarossa in aug-oct apparently
and in feb-apr they're probably doing dunkirk
but thats all speculation
lapis hare
I thought it was a theory
solid hinge
Is it possible to change your 'tides of war' goal?
dim gazelle
no
novel mason
They're all active at the same time
solid hinge
Oh okay that's fine I'll just have to try to remember which one I want to do.
solid hinge
I can only see one
dim gazelle
it depends on how much u completed already
solid hinge
Oh okay
Another thing, is it possible to hide all of the warning symbols that appear to the right of the screen?
dim gazelle
if the way splits u can do both and if u complete on of it u can complete the next one and the one u didnt unlocked at the same time
solid hinge
They come and go like the check engine light in my car, I think on previous battlefield titles it was possible to disable them
Gosh darn, oh well.
obsidian fossil
I love being able to disable orphans
lapis hare
obsidian fossil
scarlet orbit
Is there an app yet for V. So I can check stats
eager field
How tf do you change zeroing distance? I’ve tried everything and it won’t work
Xbox one user btw
scarlet orbit
Lol same here
novel mason
Do you have the specialization equipped
eager field
Seriously gonna ask me that? Yes I have it on the Krag Jørgenson
minor jacinth
novel mason
of course I'm gonna ask you lmao
glad spire
shooting someone and hitting are 2 different things 😃
dim gazelle
yeah
scarlet orbit
Is there an app yet for V. So I can check stats
novel mason
No
dim gazelle
medic weapon needs 9-10 shots at distance
novel mason
9 Max at 70m, except for the MP34
minor jacinth
It would be more effectiv to throw the weapon I guess
instead of hitting them with bullets
amber notch
dim gazelle
or to change ttk back
wild nymph
Whats a good weapon for assault?
amber notch
Leave the TTK
dim gazelle
big magazine weapons
amber notch
Give smgs more damage
midnight nimbus
I'm sure the TTK experiment will be over soon
hardy wave
Hope so
obsidian fossil
yes pls
amber notch
Or increase the Rate of fire
obsidian fossil
smg buff
midnight nimbus
all they have to do is flip a switch
obsidian fossil
dim gazelle
and whats with zh29?
amber notch
midnight nimbus
no, RoF increase for SMGs would be awful
midnight nimbus
with SDEC
restive talon
Is that s i m p l e
amber notch
😩
hardy wave
I’m for buffing all medic weapons. And I’m also for people to stop crying cause they got shot and killed and didn’t have time to react lol
midnight nimbus
SMGs need all the time in the world between shots
solid hinge
when we getting old TTK back? because i cannot play any other mode now other than conquest core
midnight nimbus
SMGs need very minimal changes to be good
restive talon
Im for giving medics a fatman
solid hinge
i want to play breakthrough so bad
I found the option to disable the 'aim lead indicator' but I can't see any more for the rest
zenith cliff
Great news DICE just announced they are changing ttk back to original
hardy wave
Thank god
dim gazelle
THANK GOD
hardy wave
Lol
dim gazelle
WHEN
minor jacinth
where?
amber notch
restive talon
obsidian fossil
solid hinge
@zenith cliff they didnt said that, they said they will do some changes not that they will bring back the old TTK..
novel mason
baited
restive talon
People believing
dense bone
man, my headshot domination has come to an end, all for casuals
restive talon
JEBAITED
zenith cliff
Oh I misread my bad
dim gazelle
oh no pls not orange man
solid hinge
imagine next update they made TTK change even worse
solid hinge
put TTK on snipers, tanks and planes next 😄
dense bone
snipers should ALWAY 1 shot headshot at any range, and 2 shot body shot at and range
dense bone
oof
muted socket
wait so is there like a tldr on the whole ttk thing? i have like no idea whats going on lmao
restive talon
Imagine next update no ttd no ttk
solid hinge
@dense bone but then new players will cry why they die from 1 shoot
dim gazelle
zh 29 needs 3 shots at range lol
restive talon
Just surrendering
dense bone
then dont get headshot by a sniper
zinc vale
the games still fun but god damn it's worse with the change
zinc vale
Plz change back ea
minor jacinth
yo
solid hinge
@dense bone they dont know how to do that sadly
solid hinge
they are walking bots
dense bone
they dont even run xD
dim gazelle
sign ma petition, 12 signs already
dense bone
no thanks
dim gazelle
its just can get better
dense bone
ima start a petition to keep the new ttk
grave loom
Nopeee
hardy wave
Does anyone else see the irony of people who snipe and can easily kill with one shot to head crying cause someone killed them and had to hit them 2 plus times in the head or more depending on range and weapon..
zinc vale
If they keep it imma cry
restive talon
Somehow
zinc vale
it's just not as fun
dim gazelle
if they keep it ima switch to eww pls forgive me god fortnut
restive talon
Maybe its the amd drivers
solid hinge
pls dont any slight good thing said about this horrible TTK will give DICE a reason to not remove it
restive talon
Or bf just eating shit
dense bone
new ttk is awesome
zinc vale
I liked the speed of the old ttk as a medic my guns feel even more worthless
dense bone
i can kill campers
zinc vale
I haven't tried support yet
solid hinge
@dense bone you want to kill BF5 or what?
dense bone
sure
dim gazelle
support and recon only "good" classes now
solid hinge
yes
dense bone
assault is good
hardy wave
@dense bone is just a toxic cod player. Unfortunately dice keeps listening to people that have this mindset
dense bone
suomi and thompson up close still good
dim gazelle
we have to change orange man like dice changed ttk
solid hinge
assault so bad
scenic beacon
all hail the mg42 extended belt
solid hinge
gawier needs 5 shots to kill
dim gazelle
u arent an orange anymore, u r a poob now
solid hinge
MG42 50btk
zenith cliff
@hardy wave I agree
dense bone
@hardy wave wtf how did i become toxic? and i havent played cod in years
midnight nimbus
mfw top post on /r/BFV
should've praised new TTK to kill off the game
zinc vale
lmao
dense bone
ironic you bring up cod too, since it has a low ttk which is what you all want
zinc vale
They said things will change but not which direction, I hope it's back to how it was though
atleast that way
solid hinge
they said BF5 its more TACTICAL! but look what they made now
zinc vale
But ugh first the patch fucks my framerate now this
midnight nimbus
everything is so binary to you people
dense bone
^
dim gazelle
if i read this channel, only person who likes this change is orange man
midnight nimbus
you can have something that's neither too fast or too slow
which was original TTK
zinc vale
I think the original ttk was just right
midnight nimbus
original TTK was fine
minor jacinth
âgree
dense bone
i like it, chanka likes it, yagman likes it, pow likes it
midnight nimbus
faster than BF1, slower than BF4
dim gazelle
and 1500 reddit comments dislike it
midnight nimbus
new TTK is like slower than BO4
primal sage
Original TTK was like real WWII warfare. You cross the open? You run the risk of being cut down instantly.
dense bone
yes, lets use reddit as a gauge of measure
solid hinge
new TTK its bad as BF1 TTK was
dense bone
@primal sage but you could get cut down by any smuck
solid hinge
i dont like it at all
dense bone
but this isnt real
solid hinge
in BF1 it took so long to kill a player
minor jacinth
I love it when AR penetrate me so hard
midnight nimbus
original BF1 TTK was better than this
primal sage
Cause in Battlefield, a good 60 to 90% of the map is OPEN.
scenic beacon
i just want hardcore
dense bone
how much longer is bfv ttk now compared to bf1? @midnight nimbus
solid hinge
now they made it same in bf5 you cannot kill many people with a single reload anymore, zergin is back on medium maps too because a running player can always take cover now and not die
primal sage
Well not to a huge degree.
midnight nimbus
1916 in new BFV: 3-4 to 39m, 225 RPM
1916 in original BF1: 3-3, 225 RPM
primal sage
Only Medics can zerg.
midnight nimbus
@dense bone a lot
dense bone
numbers man
solid hinge
For the “look up” challenge do you have to be squad leader during the kill
primal sage
You can only heal once if you're not a medic.
dense bone
10%?
midnight nimbus
compare damage values holding RoFs constant, and they're a lot worse
dense bone
number my man
midnight nimbus
can't really spit out a flat number percentage increase
dense bone
range
solid hinge
@primal sage doesnt matter one heal is enough now by that time they get to next objective
stray isle
i think nyphon is trolling just to be trolling
dense bone
emphasises skill and i like it
dim gazelle
nyphon took some drugs
dim gazelle
hes illusionasing
solid hinge
also now that you need to use more bullets to kill a player nutrition on ammo its starting to be like in BF5 beta where you run out of ammo really fast
midnight nimbus
new Thompson is basically BF1 Automatico but worse
dense bone
and arent effective camping
dim gazelle
or whatever it is called
grave loom
illusionasing
minor jacinth
I found a turner today on the ground as a medic
grave loom
Nice
dim gazelle
halluzinating
obsidian fossil
so would you say overwatch is more skilled than siege gunplay-wise?
minor jacinth
I took it and went on a rampage with this thing
midnight nimbus
new 1916 is basically a shitty Howell
dense bone
overwatch is hard to gauge since you have to consider who you are playing
midnight nimbus
new G43 is a shitty Cei
dense bone
winston? no, mccree? maybe
solid hinge
more bullets to kill = faster rate of losing ammo
midnight nimbus
Turner is like a bad AL8 25
G 1-5 is most comparable to Trench Carbine, which was a meme gun in BF1
dense bone
@solid hinge yea if you dont go for head, which you have a reason to now
solid hinge
@dense bone how much is EA and DICE paying you to say stuff like this?
dense bone
so why are people complaining?
midnight nimbus
if headshots are strong, they should be hard to hit
dense bone
if headshots are easy you can do super good
midnight nimbus
like BF1
stray isle
lol nyphone is just being a voice on descent for the sake of it.
midnight nimbus
huge disparity between headshot and bodyshot multipliers is terrible design
makes CQB erratic
dense bone
hit box for hs is pretty lenient, so stop being a nub and going for body shots, go for the head
youll dominate in high ttk
its not hard to grasp
midnight nimbus
which is why BF1 and BFV toned down HSM compared to BF4
too easy to accidentally hit heads
solid hinge
a good community criticize the game when they dont like something, you think we should always accept any changes from DICE
obsidian fossil
tbf, each ttk emphasizes a different kind of skill. High ttk puts more emphasis on aim and sustained fire, with getting shot at being more forgiving, where as a low ttk emphasizes awareness + aim, cause you die a lot quicker. Personally i enjoy the lower ttk because reaction speed and game awareness have a bigger impact
midnight nimbus
you don't even have to go for them much, and a headshot decreasing your BTK by >1 makes things super erratic
really shows off bad networking more
solid hinge
Does anyone know any fixes or possible methods to circumvent the infinite loading screens? I get two types, the one where there's two loading icons and a black screen with one loading icon.
dense bone
if you have ass aim
minor jacinth
my aim is good.
dense bone
it takes what 5-6 bullets to kill?
midnight nimbus
new TTK is fine in small player count games
dim gazelle
9-10
dense bone
what medic gun has only 6 bullets?
dim gazelle
at range lol
midnight nimbus
where you can isolate 1v1s
solid hinge
Currently I just have to [alt]+[f4] and restart the game every round
obsidian fossil
like if a medic and a assault player shot at each others body at the exact same time, the assault would win, even at the smgs dedicated range
dense bone
new ttk is fine if you go for headshots while flanking
midnight nimbus
5 BTK SMGs is awful, really kills off the big advantage SMGs had against ARs and LMGs
dense bone
people salty they cant body shot 3+ people JUST because they flanked
midnight nimbus
nukes hipfire and ADS advantage against ARs and LMGs
solid hinge
alguien de sud america?
midnight nimbus
can't kill someone fast enough before they snap to you with an AR or LMG
obsidian fossil
yeah
dense bone
wow, you walked around the building, that alone should net you at least 3 kills? gtfo
solid hinge
Dice needs to address the time to death not time to kill
midnight nimbus
SMGs have the accuracy to hipfire to 20-25m, too bad their DPS turns to shit by then
obsidian fossil
you can kill people, but head to head, youll usually lose as a medic
midnight nimbus
medic isn't even worthwhile in BFV
midnight nimbus
why revive the NPCs on your team
dense bone
mostly #1
midnight nimbus
they don't even help you
obsidian fossil
i think if you can flank around a building and a squad of 3 people dont see you or hear you, thats their fault
midnight nimbus
just squad revive, since squadmates can actually help you
dim gazelle
yeah i end top or max <5 but iot just dont make fun
muted socket
i revive anyone im able to safely get to
dense bone
^
dim gazelle
and i cant play only conquest core
obsidian fossil
they shouldn't be pardoned automatically just because flanking is a good tactic
dense bone
hell, i dont even do safely
midnight nimbus
it's so easy to break teamplay in this game, it's ridiculous
maiden steppe
y'all will never "git gud" enough to win 1v2's where people aren't total potatoes, unless you're Relaaa or DRUNKKZ3
solid hinge
What is Battlefield 5 like now with the new TTK?
maiden steppe
this is why new ttk sucks
dense bone
because people arent good?
dim gazelle
tbh its shit
midnight nimbus
it's too easy to accidentally or intentionally hurt teammates, too hard to help/too unlikely to get help
dim gazelle
no motivation to play bf v
dim gazelle
dude i wish i couild do a 1 vs 1 against u
midnight nimbus
if you're good at headshots, why not play assault
solid hinge
I did not like the game when I played back then it but I did not feel like the whole TTK was the problem.
dim gazelle
and smash u in the butt
maiden steppe
god, the BRO JUST HEADSHOT JUST HEADSHOT argument
midnight nimbus
a class that doesn't suck at range
dense bone
while you try to pump my body full of bullet, im going for that head
maiden steppe
people who wanna be consistent dont go for headshots 100%
obsidian fossil
nyphon be like i pwn all noobs xd
midnight nimbus
if headshots are the only way to play, just turn soldiers into floating heads
maiden steppe
it's usually 1 headshot, rest bodyshots
dense bone
well, prepare to lose to the people who can land headshots
solid hinge
you guys arguing about medics
lilac crag
is there a way to find out what guns i have the road to bfv skins for
dense bone
like it should be
solid hinge
medics are fine
dim gazelle
i start at upper chest and through recouil i end with headshot in optimal case
maiden steppe
not even the people at the peak of this skill ceiling will headshot consistently
glossy locust
it's more of a certain guns (medic guns and SMGS) needing huge buffs than the new TTK being a problem
dim gazelle
haha nice orange man
midnight nimbus
low spread increase and huge heads are just 🤢 design
muted socket
i just shorta shoot and hope i actually kill someone. im a total noob at this game lmao
midnight nimbus
so easy to just shoot at the chest and drift to the head
dense bone
honesty is nice
midnight nimbus
lazy af shooting
glossy locust
it's more of a certain guns (medic guns and SMGS) needing huge buffs than the new TTK being a problem
midnight nimbus
make it like BF1, you're fucked if you don't hit the head with the first bullet
dense bone
@dim gazelle stats?
midnight nimbus
make going for headshots a trade off
obsidian fossil
while headshots should do a lot of damage, that doesn't mean that body shots should do none. look at siege, 1 shot headshots garunteed no matter what gun, and body shots still kill very quickly
dim gazelle
wait i start game
obsidian fossil
it rewards you for awareness
maiden steppe
people in Planetside 2 argued that headshots was the only way to play with 8 bullet to skill scenarios, yet I trash people by going for upper torso shots and maybe one headshot or two
dense bone
body shots dont do no dmg though..
midnight nimbus
@obsidian fossil exactly, diminishing returns to increased skill = higher ceiling
glossy locust
siege is a gam built around camping and without headshots it DOES take quite a few to drop someone
midnight nimbus
making headshots ez mode win = too fast to climb
obsidian fossil
yeah
midnight nimbus
diminishing returns to increased skill is a design pillar of like every game
no reason to not apply it to BF gunplay
simple marlin
still discussing ttk ?
glossy locust
it's actually hilarious you guys bring up seige when it has headshot instakills and about the same TTK if you aim at the body
midnight nimbus
siege gunplay is awful
cedar bronze
Have the fixed the last tiger glitch
glossy locust
it easily takes 4 shots to down someone with an smg in siege
dense bone
my favorite so far is people saying that im a cod scrub and want a high ttk, when cod is low ttk and what everyone wants...
maiden steppe
well siege doesn't exactly have good gunplay, but it has many other tactical shooter elements that make it esports worthy
glossy locust
i mean i think it's also insane that na smg can take 8 shots to kill but that is an SMG problem
not a TTK problem
maiden steppe
yeah it's like 4-5 bodyshot kill with super swift movement
midnight nimbus
it's just quickscope meta
glossy locust
smgs need a huge buff and have since launch
midnight nimbus
nah, BO4 SMGs are 6-9 BTK
dense bone
smg does need range buff
midnight nimbus
similar to new BFV SMGs
simple marlin
hey at least someone didn't scream on your face that you're a hacker on pubg and then slided into your dms to do death threats and try to promote white supermacist speech
maiden steppe
the dumbest thing about Black Ops 4 is that assault rifles have, like, no headshot multiplier
solid hinge
SMG got even worse now
brave cypress
I hate the new revive system that BFV has
maiden steppe
it takes the same number of bodyshots to kill as headshots with most ARs
midnight nimbus
yeah, high caliber is crutch in BO4
glossy locust
is the old revive system of syring or paddles better though
midnight nimbus
miserable TTK = very quickly build boring metas
brave cypress
Every time I try to revive someone I have to spam my fucking X button or I just stand over them like a moron
And spamming kicks you out of the animation sometimes aswell
midnight nimbus
BO4 is a quickscope adventure, which is fun, but bad design
BFV is approaching that as well
muted socket
ppl still quickscope?
dim gazelle
if u press e or x while reviving it stops reviving
dense bone
@brave cypress i always hold it and just wait
muted socket
i thought it died after mw2
midnight nimbus
BO4 sniping is the most fun in the series
brave cypress
Holding makes you pick up their gun
glossy locust
ok, let's say they went too far with the TTK, let's say it. Was the prvious TTK really not a problem at all, it was a bit extreme
dim gazelle
just press one ti,me e or x
maiden steppe
quick-scoping is effective for as long as you get 100% accuracy with fast scoping times so yeah
people quick-scope
muted socket
ive been playing on and off again. last one i played was ww2
kindred orchid
I wish people's guns wouldn't disappear so quickly.
simple marlin
"omfg noob hardscoper"
brave cypress
Also, why does the game give me the medic's gun after they revive me?
simple marlin
or something in those lines always make me laugh
kindred orchid
When I run out of ammo I pick up other people's guns.
But they disappear too quickly.
midnight nimbus
lmao I'd do that, just take someone else's gun before reviving them
muted socket
1v1 quickscope on rust
midnight nimbus
so they have to use an SMG and you can get a good gun as medic
BF teammates hurt you more often than not honestly
brave cypress
SMGs are pointless now
midnight nimbus
bad collision = body blocking, kiting enemies
can't even throw you ammo or health
maiden steppe
the only support ive seen for this new ttk is in the context of 1v1 situations, and yet this isn't a 1v1 game
it's so stupid
kindred orchid
I feel like I still die to Sten from far away fairly consistently.
midnight nimbus
squad mates when you play solo are only useful to keep alive bc they're spawn points
waxen stratus
Quick question: Is it possible to get better accuracy while moving and low drag bullets, on either the Krag J or the Kar 98?
glossy locust
i don't understand people that think TTK wasn't a little overboard before. LMGs fucking shredded people
like 3 hits
almost any range
brave cypress
TTK change didn't do shit to help
maiden steppe
yeah it didn't fix the one-frame death bug
simple marlin
that's not a concern of ttk though
glossy locust
how were LMGs not overboard with the prvious ttk?
brave cypress
That's my point
carmine eagle
How long has this TTK discussion been going on for?
brave cypress
LMGs other than the KE7 were fine
dense bone
27 hours
simple marlin
since yesterday i guess
carmine eagle
Damn
maiden steppe
yeah because obviously it's such a dissented change
glossy locust
honestly they changed it in bf1 and after a few hours i could barely even tell
it's kind've a crazy argument
it's a minor thing
maiden steppe
nobody who goes for high KPM does "prone gameplay" tho
brave cypress
This isn't BF1
carmine eagle
If it’s been going on for this long
midnight nimbus
KE7 was fine too
brave cypress
No
midnight nimbus
just everyone uses it
simple marlin
brave cypress
Absolutely the hell not
midnight nimbus
bc it's a versatile gun
carmine eagle
Lewis???
simple marlin
lewis is really meh
midnight nimbus
it's statistically a very average LMG
same thing as everyone crying about Hellreigel in BF1
maiden steppe
I could by hyper-aggressive with flanks and 1v2's before, now I gotta be isolating as many 1v1's as possible and it's so boring
brave cypress
It shreds everything and has basically no recoil
midnight nimbus
a very meh SMG that's easy to use
maiden steppe
it's BF1 all over again and I quit that game for a reason
glossy locust
face it low TTK feels bad in a game with 32 people shooting at you, it just does. Not seeing the opponent that kills you, feels bad
carmine eagle
Lewis w extended mag and good accuracy is good
midnight nimbus
other LMGs shred harder than the KE7 at different things
simple marlin
hellriegel was broke though
maiden steppe
left then all right side for lewis is the way to play
carmine eagle
Yeah
carmine eagle
Sösig
maiden steppe
KE7 is just a versatile gun for the relevant ranges, much like the Madsen in BF1
that's why you see it the most
carmine eagle
Bring back phantom bow????
fierce dust
fucking ur mom
dense bone
and its the first gun support gets...
brave cypress
Hardly saw the Madsen used in BF1 tbh
fierce dust
while waering a thong
midnight nimbus
lmao
brave cypress
VGO is fun
midnight nimbus
FG42 cleanly beats KE7 at <30m
carmine eagle
Phäñtöm böw
fierce dust
yeah idk
midnight nimbus
Bren cleanly beats it at range
pulsar valve
Keep it on topic
maiden steppe
FG42 is a pain to use on maps like Hamada and Aerodrome.
fierce dust
oh sorry
dim gazelle
idk if u know something about that buuut: if u go to the bunker at narvik on a flag which is nearer to be flag theres a telephone in it with which u can interact, found it some days ago
pulsar valve
@fierce dust Still want to be banned?
carmine eagle
Is the MG44’s bipod paper? Or...
brave cypress
I don't have the FG42 yet, and the Bren is good at range with the bipod down
fierce dust
my dad is ali a
dim gazelle
@carmine eagle how did u get a mg44
carmine eagle
@pulsar valve van gangus
maiden steppe
Bren is prolly the one automatic gun that you always want a 3x scope on
dense bone
martyr gangus!
fierce dust
i will refrain from doing such horrible things
maiden steppe
because the other options leave that big mag blocking your vision
carmine eagle
I got mg44 in test range and TRIED to use it
maiden steppe
and it's best utilized at range
dim gazelle
i have the feeling if i use reflex or this nyadir sight recoil is much lower lol
pulsar valve
!mute @fierce dust 1d Not keeping it on topic.
carmine eagle
M30 drilling is a good multi tool
junior mistBOT
:ok_hand: Gangus007#9548 is now muted for a day (Not keeping it on topic.)
brave cypress
F
carmine eagle
F
maiden steppe
you just get a higher perception of recoil, but (especially if you have Uniform Soldier Aiming on) you compensate for recoil in the same way. pull down your mouse.
carmine eagle
F uck
maiden steppe
PUBG pro players do 4x scope sprays all the time to remain sure that they are hitting people properly at range
it's not much different here
dense bone
F
maiden steppe
but obviously you don't have the liberty of scope switching here, so it's a pretty big tradeoff.
solid hinge
So does anyone know how to fix the endless loading screens? Just got another one
dim gazelle
alt f4
maiden steppe
cant be as aggressive with a 3x scope due to lack of peripheral vision
dim gazelle
start again
carmine eagle
Reset
brave cypress
I wish we could switch between irons and an optic on some guns
solid hinge
But it's practically every match I get it
carmine eagle
Commit gun head
solid hinge
Lucky to have two consecutive games
dim gazelle
@maiden steppe i play m1a1 with x3 sight too cuz the holosight is so dark
idk
i dont like this reflex sight,but the nyagar sight is pretty good
maiden steppe
i initially played with 3x scope because the maps were unfamiliar and I didn't know the spots where people lurked the most often
carmine eagle
This is a battlefield chat
solid hinge
maiden steppe
Nowadays I play with irons (on guns other than the Bren) for 1.5x zoom and peripheral vision
rose pilot
carmine eagle
Got it
gleaming eagle
Soi
gleaming eagle
why Holo, when you could get a gun w 1.0x time scope
west plinth
Holo darkens my ADS way to much. Ironsights on most guns
dense bone
idk, i feel consistent on holo
i like the pov, like that i dont have to get used to other sights
grave loom
You play holo on maps like hamada aswell?
dense bone
everything
grave loom
Like really big open maps
dense bone
never use anything else
grave loom
Well thats understandable then lol
dense bone
i tried irons for 1.5x but didnt like the sights
delicate panther
I use 3x all the time
dense bone
ive just alway used short zoom for everything
if they are too far for me to be effective i really dont have to worry about them unless they are a good sniper
which is rare
delicate panther
I Did too untill I Got stg
dense bone
im using holo on m1a1
sacred hull
hey guys
dense bone
howdy
sacred hull
if ur tide of war challenges are bugged
delicate panther
I only use semi on stg for long range
austere path
wish i had shadow play enabled, i just hit a 350m headshot with the dmr
sacred hull
go on the actual tide of war screen
and select the challenge
and play through that
fixed my bug
dense bone
good info, might want to post that in tech as well, since people might go there for help
solid hinge
It works sometimes though
icy sluice
"It just works"
dense bone
scale of 1-10 how do you feel about the new ttk? 1 being hate it, 5 being neutral, 10 being you love it
midnight nimbus
3x cucks ADS time pretty bad
icy sluice
I am neutral
It doesn't hinder me too much... but uhh... it looks like it will be changed
icy sluice
I am too lazy to just download the image and post it here, so here's a link to an imgur I found
https://i.imgur.com/Y03hgDC.jpg
dense bone
yea saw that
icy sluice
He uses the words' for sure' so
elder flower
I think the new TTK is amazing. I actually think it's buffed Medics in a way - you can disengage from fights at very low health, reset, and go back in. Given that the scoreboard seems to show everyone sitting at minus K:D, I'm guessing that's why it isn't going down too well
dense bone
i think a lot of people are having a tough time changing
vague dagger
i dont see that in the scoreboard...
dense bone
they are just so familiar with 1 system
west plinth
I haven't played with the new TTK yet, but just looking at what people say is just soooo hugely different. Some claim medics are even worse than before, some claim medics are beasty now, some say Supps are OP, others claim that supps are now only there for ammo...
dense bone
i dont play a lot, and i got the game a week after launch, so im not "fixed" into a system
@west plinth high rof smgs are good up close, moreso now with the change, but anything at range with any smg is rough
imo its too soon to claim anything as bad or good other than medics at range sucks again
thats the only thing i think anyone should be comfortable claiming
vague dagger
the way they went about it creates huge unbalances in weapons
and thats where i have an issue
elder flower
I'm by no means a great player. Pre TTK, I sat around a 2KD ratio, but I've found since then, primarily only playing medic, I'm getting 3-4 KDs now each round. It's all very subjective, but I really love the pace of play now
That said, I haven't tried the MP40. The Sten, Thompson, MP28, and MP34 seemed to shred people, even at fairly long ranges
solid hinge
Is the TTK really that bad
solid hinge
like, alot of my friends who don't play religiously say there's no difference
midnight nimbus
depends on what you use
vague dagger
i havent played the new ttk so i cant say if i like it more or less but from a strictly objective perspective it gives a substantial boost to shotguns and high RoF weapons. Considering the prepatch weapons were all very balanced imo i think its a bad change
midnight nimbus
some guns get hurt a lot more than others
dense bone
yea, someone who doesnt know the exact time to stop shooting will have a hard time adjusting
vague dagger
^ and thats bad
dense bone
but someone like me who plays on occasion, i dont feel much of a difference
outer oxide
Damn the v1 challenge is glitched
dense bone
so if youre tailored to the old ttk and play the new its gonna be rough
vague dagger
i dont mind transitions i mind unbalance
dense bone
its too soon to claim unbalanced though
vague dagger
its why im not a fan of airborne twisted or frontlines arras
dense bone
its been a day..
midnight nimbus
^ literally made that showing that's its unbalanced as fuck
vague dagger
faster RoF guns are disproportionately stronger than every other weapon
midnight nimbus
I knew about the new damages for awhile, took awhile to get the numbers done
but even before hitrates confirmed it, i knew it was a mess
dense bone
as they should be, because they are harder to control
midnight nimbus
bc it creates worse BF1 TTK 1.0 numbers
vague dagger
the recoil hasnt changed
dense bone
high rof is always fastest ttk
midnight nimbus
no
dense bone
but high rof guns were always harder to control
vague dagger
and thats not true
midnight nimbus
it's not
vague dagger
they balance RoF with damage
midnight nimbus
high RoF is supposed to degrade much faster
no damage isn't used in balance
like at all
vague dagger
by boosting damage uniformly you buff faster guns more than slower guns
midnight nimbus
that's why you have universal damage models
increasing damage helps low RoF more
vague dagger
i mean with lower damage
midnight nimbus
decreases the disparity created by RoF
outer oxide
Guys my squad called in a v1 and got 8kills but it didn’t work for the challenge can anyone explain?
midnight nimbus
that's how CoD gets away with bad weapon balance
dense bone
theres many ways to balance, but the general rule is that high rof naturally kills faster, duh it shoots faster, but its usually harder to control
dense bone
lol wtf
dense bone
they dont care about control as balance?!
midnight nimbus
you wanna make a macro proof game
dense bone
what kind of game design is that xD
dense bone
lol no
vague dagger
THEY DIDNT CHANGE CONTROL!
dense bone
my god
midnight nimbus
that's why hrec is randomized
dense bone
you guys dont comprehend
midnight nimbus
hard to macro
midnight nimbus
you design your game with robust design, make it as hard as possible to break
dense bone
control, they didnt change control, but high rof was always harder to control than low, before ttk, so high rof guns always had a faster tkk, because they are harder to control
high rof was hard to control still is, but they kill faster IF you land all the bullets
midnight nimbus
control isn't a factor, recoil patterns aren't hard to master at all
vague dagger
these "harder to control high rof" guns were already leaders of their class
dense bone
IF YOU LAND ALL THE BULLETS
vague dagger
why do you think so many people used the 1907 and soumi
midnight nimbus
you wanna make it so players who have mastered recoil control still have a reason to use low RoF guns
dense bone
they are harder to control though, so more likely to miss
midnight nimbus
unlike BF4
dense bone
good luck controlling suomi at range with ads
vague dagger
trust me i use them
dense bone
im a suomi main...
vague dagger
yes and especially now
brittle cargo
as expected
all medic guns suck past spitting distance really
vague dagger
suomi is one of the best in the game now
dense bone
suomi was always bad at range
midnight nimbus
pick the one that's good at being an SMG
nah, Suomi is passable at range
0.2 base
dense bone
passable? no
vague dagger
with the 1907, mg42, and shotguns
midnight nimbus
you can single tap it past 50m
dense bone
yea and youll get full autod from any other class before you can get the 2nd shot off
elder flower
The MP34 performs pretty well. Decent range, and a serviceable rate of fire
vague dagger
yes
midnight nimbus
all SMGs perform the same when tapped fast
dense bone
and they all get outperformed by other classes guns
midnight nimbus
MP34 is good with original TTK
vague dagger
the mp34 is currently a great midrange choice
dense bone
you dont even own this game
vague dagger
who?
midnight nimbus
just got it for free 🤷🏼♀️
dense bone
since yesterday?
just yesterday you said you dont own the game and play sometimes at your friends
midnight nimbus
just use someone else's account lmao
I didn't buy the game
that's about it
it's fine for <$60
glad lily
Hey orange man, how do you like self loading rifles after patch?