when you have better accuracy with suomi than the other guys most used gun =]
#battlefield-legacy-titles
dense bone
remote ledge
3 Panzerfaust, 1 Anti-Tank Grenade and 3 Dynamite to destroy a transport vehicle
novel mason
Umm yea that's pretty bad lol.
I thought it was because of the first glancing hit, but that was a ton of explosives
cerulean dock
dense bone
yea taking out vehicles is stuuupid
novel mason
That transport's a little special though. I think if you did the same to the kubelwagen it would have died faster
novel mason
Maybe they repaired it as well when you were respawning
glossy locust
vehicle queues: let me play infantry and help my team while im waiting for
it
how is the alternative: having vehciles spanw in "home base" or having vehicles spawn in "deployment menu" while your dead better
in both cases those players are taken completley out of hte fight while they wait
remote ledge
trasport vehicle have all this life/armor?
novel mason
Like I said before, I think that one is a little special just because of how armored & armed it is
sacred hull
I JUST HEADSHOT THIS KID TWICE WITH THE GEWEHR AND HE DOESNT DIE
HE JUST HEADSHOTS ME
this game is so bad now bro wtf
glossy locust
you didn't hit him in the head
dense bone
^
dense bone
^
remote ledge
at the first time I think I bouncy all panzerfausts, but even bouncing all this is too much and I doo more them 100 dmg
dense bone
netcode is bad, so if you did double hs him you should have traded
kindred orchid
Or pick both.
dense bone
well, at what range?
novel mason
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._251
Is this the armored transport that was in the video?
glossy locust
headshot damage wasn't changed
remote ledge
the actual netcode is worse than BF3 netcode
glossy locust
so literally impossible for this to be a TTK problem
dense bone
does 2 hs kill at any range?
thats what im getting at
because id still think if you SHOULD have killed in 2 shots, you would have, despite netcode
novel mason
The multiplier is 1.8x
glossy locust
with the gwehr?
novel mason
So depending on the range
glossy locust
is gwehr semi auto?
novel mason
Yeah
kindred orchid
Yeah
glossy locust
2 headshots would kill at any range
kindred orchid
It's the highest damage semi auto.
novel mason
What's its drop off?
glossy locust
i think most semi autos kill with one headshot no?
kindred orchid
No idea.
glossy locust
def one headshot and then a body
novel mason
Gewehr 43 right
dense bone
but was just playing with m1a1 and dont recall 1 shot head shotting
glossy locust
I don't think it is
kindred orchid
I don't use them cause I'm not good at playing aggressive with a semi auto.
novel mason
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/a5qley/battlefield_v_overture_ttk_05_the_big_oof/
This has a ton of info on weapon stats post-update
glossy locust
here's a hint in bfv take the spotter scope
and a bolt action
spot lmg campers
i got like 45 kills doing this
kindred orchid
I'm really bad with bolt action.
glossy locust
the spotting advantage on LMG campers is deadly in this game
dense bone
ill only snipe if i can carry two primaries
glossy locust
spotting changes are actually great, just need a little bit better visbility on enemies
i don't like how they can blend in with terrain so easily
and i know that's anti-realism but i think it's better for the game for enemies to be easily distinguishable from terrain
spotting changes actually make recon really useful for PTFO
dense bone
^
glossy locust
even if they hang back if they are spotting they are super useful
delicate panther
so, this week u must play with medic or recon the second mission?
novel mason
That's correct
delicate panther
i never play those 2 rip
golden hatch
Really liking the spotting changes tbh
I dont really have many issues with visibility usually, but it happens sometimes
novel mason
They won't take long at all @delicate panther :)
west plinth
Did anything change with spotting apart from the spot on kill?
glossy locust
medic needs to be buffed both revives and weapons
golden hatch
Especially when someone is prone on their back
glossy locust
they are bad
novel mason
I don't think so, Toll
dense bone
i think they are talking about spotting from this game to others
glossy locust
it's a shame how much hate this game gets with probably the best teamplay and class balance since who knows when
west plinth
Ah
dense bone
agreed bry
glossy locust
TTK changes are minor
dense bone
i agree with you a lot
west plinth
@glossy locust Hating BFV is a meme at this point 🤷
golden hatch
Definitely wouldnt call them minor, but yes the game is awesome other than that
glossy locust
the maps are still kinda mediocre
golden hatch
They just really need to be more careful with changes
dense bone
1 bullet extra to kill
ugh bulletspongefield 5!
delicate panther
well, this is my first game i play with discord and reddit, so i have no idea if any games i enjoyed ad this many negative feedback
golden hatch
New TTK could be good if they actually balanced weapons accordingly
novel mason
@remote ledge I did some research on the transport that took so long to destroy because I was curious, and it's the Sd. Kfz 251, which is a pretty decently armored vehicle. Definitely shouldn't have taken as long as it did to kill it, but it feels good to know that all transports likely aren't like that haha.
golden hatch
They just lowered damage on pretty much all of them
Rendering a lot of them useless
U cant just fuck up weapon balance like that
glossy locust
i dunno what they did with their map designers but pretty much in BF1 only about 3-4 good maps in the whole game
and in bfv i only like 3
glossy locust
arras for sure
delicate panther
rotterdam / arras for me
golden hatch
Rotterdam is like as well
delicate panther
hamada and panzerstorm worst
novel mason
They actually did acknowledge that @golden hatch. They basically said that they're in agreement that it's currently unbalanced because "it was mostly a blanket patch", and that they'll be working to balance it more in the future
golden hatch
I hate Hamada
glossy locust
the one with the collpased building in the center cna be fun but also annoying
west plinth
Arras best for vehicle fuckery, devastation when messing around with infantry
dense bone
rotterdam, arras, and devastation for me
west plinth
Twisted steel is also super fun to tank on
glossy locust
the snowmap is bad
golden hatch
Narvik and Hamada I really dont like
glossy locust
what's the snowmap called
delicate panther
i like the snowmap
golden hatch
Fjell is one big chokepoint
dense bone
being a medic, i need those high density areas
delicate panther
the one in mountains?
glossy locust
ya
golden hatch
Fjell
undone steppe
I like all of the maps really but hamada is probably my least favorite
golden hatch
its awful with the chokepoints
dense bone
i hate fjell as medic
west plinth
Only map I really dislike is Fjell.
novel mason
I like Narvik, Fjell & the one with the bridge most I think
dense bone
bridge map is good too
glossy locust
arras is a great map
novel mason
I do think the planes are out of place in Fjell though
dense bone
i think the only maps i dont like are hamada and fjell
glossy locust
st quentin scar should be like the blueprint for bf maps
that and strike at karkand
sacred hull
nyphon
undone steppe
they fucked up the remake of strike at karkand tho
delicate panther
they should implement all scopes with same color tones
dense bone
tinchhh
sacred hull
the fact that you think 1 extra bullet doesnt affect anything
delicate panther
now i have an all gold weapon but a black scope
latent cairn
@dense bone Nyphon can you PM me when Battlefield fix the TTK? I dont want to really follow this trainwreck in the meanwhile :>
sacred hull
tells me a lot about what you know 😛
novel mason
Ah, Twisted Steel is the bridge one
dense bone
i didnt say it doesnt affect anything
glossy locust
unpopular opinion # 2
dense bone
yea that doesnt say anything about my opinions on it
glossy locust
we all better hope BR is successful because that is integral to skin sales and longetivity of this game
dense bone
just making fun of people saying 1 more bullet makes a dramatic difference
novel mason
Premium only skins 🤢
rotund perch
blame everything ttk
dense bone
when its literally an extra .25 seconds more to kill someone
rotund perch
you lag
latent cairn
Honestly the changes are very significant 😦
rotund perch
it's ttk
rotund perch
you go to the toilet in the middle of the game
undone steppe
if it tanks because br fails then thats their fault
rotund perch
IT'S TTK
glossy locust
BR and twitch sell skin
novel mason
Yea. Still makes me a sad boi I won't be able to get everything eventually
brittle cargo
now i get to revive people .25 seconds less often
smh my head broken game
dense bone
it has a difference, but not much imo @sacred hull
rotund perch
The game crashes, ttk is to blame
dense bone
thats my opinion, if you care to actually know
glossy locust
i would much rather have premium skins than pay 50 bucks for maps
latent cairn
For a single kill its aight. But you now use a lot more ammo, get further into your recoil because you have to shoot more and well yeah...
rotund perch
you open ur eyes it's ttk
glossy locust
and split the community
rotund perch
accuracy is key, teamwork is key
glossy locust
the water maps on bf4 are so fucking good and are never played
rotund perch
then play as a sniper
glossy locust
it's because the premium
undone steppe
what about semi autos and slrs?
latent cairn
"Teamwork is key" "play as a sniper"
glossy locust
the entire water expansion on bf4 is one of the best ones ever
rotund perch
play as sniper if you wanna be call of duty rambo
latent cairn
rotund perch
kids
latent cairn
oh
dense bone
@undone steppe i stomped my last game using m1a1... so thats my opinion
novel mason
I personally prefer a season pass over microtransactions by far, but I do agree that it splits the playerbase. I do like how BF1 handled that though with non-premium players being able to play on premium maps. It's what eventually made me buy the season pass for it actually 😄
glossy locust
with spotting changes you can PTFO not being on the objective as sniper
spotting is just as valuable
as capturing points
dense bone
60 cents per hour, thats not bad
novel mason
How do you people play that many hours in such a short time lol
undone steppe
@dense bone I think the m1a1 is probably alright with the new ttk but i mean the 43 or turner. Weapons that only have 10 rounds or less
novel mason
No wonder you're all burnt out
rotund perch
we sleep eat shit battlefield V
latent cairn
I am not burnt out, I would want to play more. But with the new TTK I like other games better so yeah... maybe next year
glossy locust
it's been out two weeks
sacred hull
you have 15 hrs on bf5?
dense bone
@undone steppe i cant honestly have an opinion on those, since ive only used the m1a1, but ifeel as long as you go for head shots, youll be in a better situation with new ttk
brittle cargo
i have like 12 hours on bfv
sacred hull
and you're commenting on the ttk?
dense bone
ttk has been out for a day
novel mason
Such a gatekeeper lmao
glossy locust
lol
novel mason
Don't be such a downer
rotund perch
with the ttk, I glitch more
latent cairn
@glossy locust Some people go early access, and I have a life even if I dont want one. Thank you very much.
crisp forge
let the man give is opinion!
atomic drift
is this new ttk that bad?
glossy locust
15 hours is a long time playing
gray glade
battletracker down for anyone else?
rotund perch
to be honest with the ttk, my stomache feels like ww2
sacred hull
NO IT ISNT HAHA
rotund perch
germany about to lose
sacred hull
I GOT 15 hrs in the first two days
dense bone
claiming you need hours to comment on ttk when its a day old is illogical
glossy locust
and i have thousands of hours in battlefield
novel mason
Just form your own opinion :P @atomic drift
brittle cargo
that's not really something to be proud of
atomic drift
@novel mason what changed?
rotund perch
Damn Nyphon with logic
undone steppe
@dense bone ahh. from my experience if you encounter more than one player with those weapons yours as good as dead because it takes half the clip to kill one person which doesnt account for missed shots...
rotund perch
hit with facts
atomic drift
I dont really understand lol
sacred hull
LOL
but not in bf5
other bfs dont fucking count
because this game is totally different
glossy locust
so let me get this straight
sacred hull
no
novel mason
@atomic drift https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/a5fa7u/battlefield_v_ttk_change_list_12122018/
That post gives the deets
rotund perch
ttk is to blame for everything in this game
sacred hull
you cant get this straight
glossy locust
me spending two full days of my life almost on this game
and im not qualified
lol
sacred hull
no
rotund perch
only two days?
sacred hull
15 hours
rotund perch
normalfag much
dense bone
@undone steppe i use m1a1 with 16 rounds and kill multiple people all the time 🤷🏼
sacred hull
i have 115 and ive learnt the old ttk
glossy locust
it's been out two weeks for me
rotund perch
a real man
latent cairn
@dense bone Will you tell me when the TTK gets pushed back in the right direction a little? 
rotund perch
play at least 7 daus
sacred hull
now the new ttk fucks me in the ass because i shoot one less bullet thinking ill kill them
rotund perch
days
snow crater
im just kamikazing people on fjell
undone steppe
@dense bone yeah i did too but the m1a1 does have a mag so it reloads faster
snow crater
dont mind me
lusty veldt
did they revert the ttk yet?
sacred hull
its like changing the amount of cereal you put in ur bowl; it won't feel the same as before...
dense bone
@sacred hull so you just have to adjust and youll be fine
snow crater
no but expect it
rotund perch
The ttk is like EA
undone steppe
@dense bone same can be said for the last gewehr
glossy locust
so if you were good in literally any battlefield before you will still be good with new TTK as it's more similar to older battlefields?
golden hatch
I actually do better with the new TTK but I enjoy it less
remote ledge
@novel mason good to know too... But dat vehicle tank more as a tiger. 😐
dense bone
ew, cooties
glossy locust
like since when did BF1 have some crazy TTK
latent cairn
@dense bone You make me sad boi, I will of make sure martyr yag is of disappoints 
rotund perch
btw I'm memeing retardos who complain and shit on this game about the ttk
lusty veldt
the new ttk is for casual players and ruin the more skillfull gunplay
glossy locust
bf1 ttk was fine
atomic drift
so basically the weapons deal less damage?
dense bone
@latent cairn i think yag like the changes as well
latent cairn
Nope
dense bone
@lusty veldt higher ttk is more skillful...
undone steppe
bf1 ttk was terrible
dense bone
its less positioning and who spots who first wins
lusty veldt
its not, think about positioning more
glossy locust
new ttk means you have to aim and can't kill somone just from seeing them first (even though you still have massive advantage)
dense bone
positioning isnt skill though
undone steppe
they had it right the first go around but fucked it up several months into release
dense bone
its knowledge
lusty veldt
not tanking bullets and running to cover while tanking
novel mason
@atomic drift Correct. It's not a huge of a change as people are making it out to be, in my experience so far.
golden hatch
I dont see how high TTK is for casuals tbh. Casuals have shit aim. High TTK means its more about aim and less about positioning
dense bone
^
glossy locust
positioning is everything even in games with high TTK
latent cairn
@dense bone Medic weapons are less lethal than throwing knives 
glossy locust
like what are you guys talking about
dense bone
positioning is still important, just less with higher ttk
lusty veldt
they should poll again and see that the community wants the old ttk back
dense bone
everything is important
lusty veldt
like they saw in the first poll
dense bone
map knowledge, positioning, aim, everything
undone steppe
theres a poll on reddit rn
lusty veldt
they need to sort their netcode before messing with dmg values
dense bone
but its just changed the dependecny on them with different ttks
lusty veldt
@undone steppe link ? 😄
golden hatch
Ive had quite a few kills with new TTK where someone started shooting me from a much better position and he deserved the kill due to my terrible positioning. But I just span around and killed him because his aim wasnt great
I feel like i dont deserve those kills
glossy locust
bf5 is casual now when it's old TTK literally was the lowest of any shooter on the market
golden hatch
I got caught out, its my mistake
rotund perch
I've seen noobs complaining about the ttk, meanwhile they are unskilled, you guys should take this to twitter and keep white knighting it
undone steppe
@lusty veldt ill link in a sec let me find
rotund perch
because you turds
golden hatch
But because my aim is far better I still win
lusty veldt
they are SPLITTING the community with the TTK values and different modes now.
glossy locust
besides arma other super hardcord shooters
craggy estuary
@golden hatch no you were the better player
dense bone
you shouldnt get kill JUST because you got the drop
latent cairn
@dense bone Regardless of skill, if someone jumps you from behind without missing. You should not have a chance to turn around and kill them. You do now depending on weapons used
rotund perch
can't even tell if ur good or not
dense bone
if they cant aim, thats their fault
golden hatch
I think old TTK is too much about positioning and new TTK too much about aim
Id like to try something inbetween
dense bone
@latent cairn if skill is the same, the person that gets the drop will win
undone steppe
craggy estuary
@lusty veldt is that any different than other battlefields that had a hardcore setting?
lusty veldt
thanks bug buddy
golden hatch
some TTK inbetween and a fixed TTD would be ideal imo
dense bone
if you cant aim, you leave it open for the better person to retaliate
thats how it should be imo
lusty veldt
hardcore modes are way more 'hardcore' no hud , more dmg than the old ttk etc
glossy locust
and hardcore modes suck and are unblaanced
undone steppe
reddit poll https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JGLF6HD Dice will actually look at these guys
latent cairn
@dense bone If you've ever been good at CSGO you will know that the sensitivity should limit to about 190 degrees when you go from one side to the other. Because for a competitive shooter, you should not be able to flick 180 degrees and win.
dense bone
camping being less effective is always a goal i wish to see achieved, and higher ttk helps that
craggy estuary
@lusty veldt but it still split the playerbase
atomic drift
i havent noticed anything lol
golden hatch
@latent cairn Sensitivity vastly differs by game and by player
dense bone
@latent cairn i calibrate all my games so i do at least 180 with a full swipe of my 18" mousepad
wise lark
they already made apoll on ttk and ttd
lusty veldt
glossy locust
bf4 didn't have a fast TTK, when did you fools play a bf game that had high TTK?
latent cairn
Yes, but statistically. And most pros will tell you the same. You dont expect to be able to turn around 180 and win. So you adjust sensitivity for more accuracy in your FOV
glossy locust
or fast
craggy estuary
Again @lusty veldt the other bfs with hardcore servers also split the playerbase
lusty veldt
62% of thje survey say it sucks
atomic drift
ok i dont see the issue so either im dumb, blind or its not an issue, all of them have equal chances.
dense bone
@latent cairn because pros are facing other pros, they shouldnt expect to win
you cant apply that with a pub game
golden hatch
@latent cairn I play 180degrees across pad and 90degrees when zoomed, always have, always will
But there are plenty of people with 5 times my sens
rotund perch
12 percent probably are just on the bandwagon because they don't know if they are good or not
golden hatch
Who do just as well
rotund perch
honestly
remote ledge
@novel mason Anywway, I'm still confused. The vehicle have armor... Ok, check. But I gave 184 dmg on the vehicle. So... WTF? Someone repair 84 dmg fast like this?
latent cairn
@dense bone Idk I just think this ruins the game, the TTK is way too slow now. Was okay before even though it could have been slightly faster.
Opinions be what they are
¯_(ツ)_/¯
novel mason
Nearly all discord servers/subreddits are echo chambers, and BFV's are no different. I wouldn't take the survey as the community's opinion on the matter as a whole
glossy locust
slightly faster? are you nuts?
dense bone
@latent cairn i dont think theres a huge change, a change yea, and its noticeable, but huge? thats extreme.
glossy locust
you want this to be red orchestra?
golden hatch
Also in a game like Overwatch or Quake you are going to want a much higher sens than in Battlefield
dense bone
also helps i didnt get used to first ttk with a lot of gameplay
so im more easily able to adapt to new ttk
latent cairn
@golden hatch That is what it should be imo, I was just referencing that you shouldnt be able to turn around and drop someone who is already shooting at you just because you are an assault and they are a medic
glossy locust
plenty of great quake players use low sens now
that's false
low sens is better for precision aiming
it's a fact
undone steppe
The old TTK was the perfect balance imo between hardcore and core from battlefields old. Im usually a hardcore player and i grew to love the old TTK
golden hatch
I play low sens so i agree but theres plenty of high sens players who are good in any game as well
I dont know how
rotund perch
honestly get good
golden hatch
But it works for some of them
novel mason
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast
golden hatch
I literally cant hit a thing with higher than 180 across my qck+
latent cairn
@dense bone From the gameplay (not commentary) I have watched I haven't wanted to open the game since
I have better games to play
rotund perch
stop complaining about one simple fucking shit you don't like, complain about something they will screw up in the future that actually is game breaking
glossy locust
you need to still be able to react to engagements
dense bone
but makes you wonder if high sens players got used to low sens if they would be better
glossy locust
so it can't be that slow
undone steppe
it all comes down to what your used to. some people prefer high sens some prefer low sens
novel mason
What's your guys DPI at, out of curiosity
dense bone
since its "scientifically" better to use low sense
latent cairn
@golden hatch Yes ofc, they are always exceptions to the "rules". But high sens /high skill are not as common :p
glossy locust
the stats say otherwise, most players use 400 dpi
golden hatch
CS:GO pro player sensitivities https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UaM765-S515ibLyPaBtMnBz7xiao0HL5f-F1zk_CSF4/edit#gid=1762004852
Might be a bit dated
undone steppe
my dpi is 2600
golden hatch
but PLENTY of high sens
novel mason
Damn, I use 250 lol
dense bone
800 dpi, in game sense is 4 or 5, i do a 360 in game with 18" of horizontal movement
rotund perch
low sens may increase precision, but higher sens can increase reaction time to different enemies in different directions
in call of duty
golden hatch
I always use 90degree across pad when a game has an ironsight option
glossy locust
food for thought the average distance 360 for quake players is about 20 cm
golden hatch
like BFV, COD etc
undone steppe
its just preference really
latent cairn
I use 800dpi 1.04 sens in csgo, higher in Battlefield ofc lol. With all that jumping around
golden hatch
20cm for a 360 is really fucking high lol
glossy locust
oh wait is that 18 inches?
glossy locust
or cm
golden hatch
18inch=45 cm btw
undone steppe
theres plenty of pros that play with high dpi
dense bone
yea 20cm for 360 is almost twice as fast as mine
glossy locust
yeah thats medium low*
dense bone
18 inches
golden hatch
20cm for 360 is really high in any game
dense bone
for 360
glossy locust
it's the average for quake pros which is the fastest game on the market
atomic drift
im on 650dpi with 13% sens
glossy locust
some great quake players use low though
dense bone
18 inches for 360 is slightly high for csgo pro settings
latent cairn
Not spin simulator
golden hatch
CS:GO seem to be between 45 and 60 for a 360
glossy locust
i used 41
dense bone
^
glossy locust
41 cm/360
latent cairn
Froster you see VP are shutting down their CSGO team?
golden hatch
I played COD4 professionally with 1meter/360 and I was an aggressive SMG player
Its just whatever works for you really
undone steppe
^
golden hatch
And there were other SMG players with 5cm/360
dense bone
jesus thats low
golden hatch
Who were just as good
atomic drift
Is 650dpi with 13% sens considered high or low?
golden hatch
I dont see any reason for anyone ever to have a higher sens than a 360 across your pad
latent cairn
Right, battlefield..... pls give a middleground for the ttk! Turn it back down 50%!
Baiii!
dense bone
you dont need 360 across pad
that makes no sense
unless you are going for trick shots... on pc
undone steppe
usually its 180 to each side
golden hatch
Well like that you could do a 180 each way
so a 360 across the pad
I use half of it anyway
I need to go across my pad, left to right, twice, to do a 360
dense bone
i need to use full pad for 360
undone steppe
i can 360 at least 3 or 4 times before i get to the end of my pad lol
golden hatch
Ideally id play a bit higher but i just cant aim then
dense bone
but my natural swipe is 180
golden hatch
Ive already upped my sens a lot since my COD4 days
glossy locust
CS doen'st really need it as it's all corridor you can go in the 60s
golden hatch
Only for flashes in CS really
Thats all that bothered me
I couldnt turn away fast enough sometimes
glossy locust
and some great players are in the 60s
golden hatch
because id run out of mousepad
glossy locust
the average is 52 cm
meager dome
fortnite meta is trash so here I am
glossy locust
i'll never be good at that game
undone steppe
so does everyone think that the rumors about dice la working on bad company 3 are true?
golden hatch
Playing my sens in COD4 was a workout on its own though 😄
golden hatch
I just want BFV to have a good competitive mode
Ive never really had the chance to play Battlefield competitively and id love to give it a try
glossy locust
so i would kinda like to have two games
one is modern
one is ww2
and just update them
you don't need a new battlefeild
dense bone
i wanna try bc, never played the first two
undone steppe
bad company 2 was the most fun ive had in a battlefield game besides bf2
glossy locust
like have periodic expansions
to get cash injection
like wow
i would pay for that shit
mellow willow
on stream they just said today's patch also made party squads public by default
novel mason
It also says that in the notes ;D
fresh panther
admin on 24/7 Cliff Crawford Memorial Server is abusing his rights, calling me rammer while he turned his jet at me and rammed me, I hate those people fck sake (BF4)
dense bone
wtf are you talking about panda?
solid hinge
I got a warning lol
novel mason
😆
fresh panther
¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid hinge
Idc about it but just some good info
dense bone
you didnt know about conquest core?
sacred hull
ive been playing for 30 mins
dense bone
ah
dense bone
it was all announced days ago
undone steppe
they should have made conquest core more visible
novel mason
We expect you to at least read the notes if you're going to be screaming about changes
dense bone
^
solid hinge
so many people are shitting their diapers about TTK though
sacred hull
pfff
dense bone
i guess expect is a strong word
sacred hull
i know enough to know that the ttk is bad for this game
solid hinge
I still thrive in the new TTK
delicate panther
lol, just had a game 482-0 havent seen any enemy the whole game
dense bone
got complaints go to !feedback
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/battlefield-v-general-discussion
wise lark
new patch more bugs ?
solid hinge
but I’ll never forgive the devs for what they have done to my baby FG-42
You know what I really fucking love about Battlefield V
The FACT that they care more about potential customers than the health their own fucking game that theyve spent years developing
I cannot play Operations, I cannot play Conquest, I cannot play Panzerstorm, you wanna know hey?
Because I get an infinite loading screen every fucking time I play.
Its hilarious how shit DUCE is at listenibg to theur fans, we ate 4 patches in and you'd think that they wouldve patched out an issue as miniscule as a ibfinite loading screen that forces you to Alt-F4.
NOPE Fuck you for even considering that, you know what you shoild be considering rather.
Having to put 10 fucking bullets into someone at 10m with a 8mm Kertz Fully Automatic Assault Rifle.
Thats the shit dude, thats fun, who even cares about the factbthat tjisbis the most squad oriented Battlefield ever and that Squads stick together, making it almost entirely impossible to kill 2 people with 1 mag of 30 rounds.
What are you, fucking retarded, get the fuck outta here with that shit. Alt-F4 and rejoin for the mext round you Zombie, buy some Company Coin while your back in the Menu.
FIX YOU FUCKING GAME DICE
broken depot
I would like to, offer a middle finger to all of you who were saying medic is good yesterday
delicate panther
lol, that msg is too long to even bother to read
solid hinge
medic is good lmao
solid hinge
someone just hasn’t unlocked the M1928A1
novel mason
Medic is good
undone steppe
i just hope they dont make old TTK the basis for hardcore, because then they will lose a shit load of players
simple marlin
you're assuming i'm reading that shithole that reddit is
wise lark
two games in operation, two spawning and infinite loading bugs
delicate panther
guy with long post, try to post it in normal english so maybe we can understand it
simple marlin
yep, its a shithole apparently too
broken depot
Then why are you here 🤔
simple marlin
cuz apparently i have a trend to enjoy pigs fest
solid hinge
every other post is pretty much summed as “EA Bad TTK Bad”
mellow willow
@novel mason There are notes now? Only saw the short forum post - or was it in there as well?
simple marlin
but i can't bother to read those reddit post though
novel mason
The one with the changes for the weapons is the one I'm talking about
simple marlin
no u
undone steppe
does anyone know of a fix for the loading bug btw?
broken depot
Yeah like
novel mason
I'm serious too*
solid hinge
Just get a Tommy or MP40 and get to work
simple marlin
i'm a medic main and i am performing better before ttk patch so basically: its a buff in my eyes so fking get good
dense bone
high rof guns at cqb are still good for medic
novel mason
I use the Sten at range just fine, AMA
solid hinge
@Quiche Ive seen you hack in PUBG you fucking asshole
How are those Riots working out for your country btw
sten 🤮
dense bone
if youre good, high ttk doesnt change anything
i lie, it changes your kdr because it will go up
solid hinge
it really do
broken depot
@solid hinge giv proof over that
solid hinge
I’m so close to breaking 2.0 KDR
simple marlin
@solid hinge nice meme
solid hinge
He got banned and it seems his channel got deleted because of all the streaming he did
dense bone
first game i played i did bad, since i stopped shooting too early, but changed it now im wrecking more than before
solid hinge
He had a dog as his prof pic on Youtube with a crown on it
simple marlin
are you actually trying to imply that i'm some kind of cheater that was streaming
xD
dense bone
@solid hinge can you keep it bf related here
simple marlin
jesus
broken depot
tbh considering how toxic you are, that doesnt surprise me if its true lol
solid hinge
Never trust someone with a Polandball pfp to talk like a normal person @simple marlin
Kan u kEeP iT bF rElaTED hErE
The guy hacks
dense bone
that sucks
dark pilot
Fuck off nobody cares
solid hinge
And if he hacked in PUBg hell hack in BFV
dense bone
doesnt belong here
simple marlin
incredible
im out of words
"omg he got a dog pfp and a similar name from someone else, it must be him"
jesus, get a brain
solid hinge
Anywho, thoughts on the dead man’s hand uniform ?
broken depot
You're being awfully defensive over that @simple marlin
dense bone
i mean, if quaiche is telling the truth, id be pissed about someone coming in and trying to say im a hacker
but seriously, this is a #general convo
undone steppe
undone steppe
maybe
undone steppe
they may or may not listen
undone steppe
they may go ahead and make old TTK hardcore and make new TTK core
dense bone
actually doing something is different than listening
undone steppe
it kind of seems like a canned response
dense bone
you tell me to jump, i heard you, but im not gona do it
novel mason
He just got back from a pretty long vacation, I'm not sure he's really in tune with everything just yet
undone steppe
true
dense bone
got complaints? go to
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/battlefield-v-general-discussion
zenith cliff
It's very stupid of you guys changing it
midnight nimbus
you guys do know it's not permanent right?
undone steppe
the wording just kind of seems like they will just change the current ttk instead of reverting
dense bone
im not into theory, im just saying, they are listening
undone steppe
they are listening yes but so far they havent done a good job at implementing what players actually want
dense bone
thats the disconnect, what the dev wants vs what players want
dense bone
@solid hinge
got complaints? go to
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/battlefield-v-general-discussion
dense bone
its been discussed continuously here
dense bone
i personally like it
simple marlin
whew im getting threat attack from the other guy in DMs
dense bone
@solid hinge they made the time to kill longer
undone steppe
new ttk favors higher rof weapons
dense bone
@simple marlin screen shot it and send it to modmail
solid hinge
if the frame rate when they died was smoother it would be a different story
fast grove
is squad revive bugged
solid hinge
So that means the SMGs are shit at this point if thatd the case?
I don't mind 1 or 2 extra bullets but it just seems jagged
simple marlin
i didn't know that being against a minority of the community would be that deadly
fast grove
for the achievement
dense bone
@solid hinge it is generally 1 bullet more for new ttk
solid hinge
k
dense bone
some occasions its 2 more for something like smg at range
undone steppe
basically play support or recon
solid hinge
@undone steppeyup
dense bone
@solid hinge smgs at range are basically back to their pre buff days
solid hinge
I just enjoy taking out multiple enemies. Sort of hard to get multi kills
Ahh no wonder
Well thats a RIP
dense bone
smgs up close like suomi still wreck
fast grove
is the squad revive achievement bugged?
undone steppe
for some people yes
mellow willow
no, but the server might be
if you don't get progress, pick a different server
later on you can check; if the menu doesn't list your current assignments, it's bugged and you should change servers again
zenith cliff
1 bullet makes a lot of differences in battlefield tbh
fast grove
@mellow willow weird
dense bone
i mean, if you land all the bullets, its like .25 of a second difference...
fast grove
but ty mate
zenith cliff
I just want the old ttk back
dense bone
@zenith cliff got complaints? go to
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/battlefield-v-general-discussion
undone steppe
it makes people more likely to use automatic weapons or shotties instead
hardy wave
Little ridiculous you have to hit someone four times with a selbstadler to get a kill at range
zenith cliff
@dense bone I will
hardy wave
Even five shots.
dense bone
best bet to get the changes done
solid hinge
Another update?!
hardy wave
If all the cod scrubs stopped crying about being killed before they could quick scope or jump away like it’s halo then game would be much better
Being able to tank shots to the face and still accurately return fire is a little much
solid hinge
Bf1 should be like real life. Shot once and you fuckin bleed out for hours until you die
Turner magazine= 1 kill
novel mason
I really wish that the bayonet charge was at least slightly faster than the sprint speed lol. Chasing behind someone is so awkward.
solid hinge
*bfv
hardy wave
Shouldn’t have to hit someone three times I. The head to get a kill either
undone steppe
@solid hinge yeah new ttk makes any weapon with 10 rounds or less worthless
solid hinge
zh-29 magazine=1 kill
If they are that serious about the change being right for the game I sure hope they add all the modes with the old one. I'm not here to complain though just wanted to say how I felt
m1 blah blah
dense bone
you can voice opinions here @solid hinge just keep it civil and for the respect of other people here keep its constructive
hardy wave
Imo these changes keep pushing away the loyal bf players. Bf was different from cod and that’s what people liked about it
low quail
anyone saw cheaters in bfv?
dense bone
you can do what you want, i have absolutely no authority or say, would just be nice
solid hinge
its okay I know what you mean 😄
dense bone
@hardy wave higher ttk is even more distant than cod since cod is typically low ttk
and current ttk is now pretty similar to bf1 ttk
hardy wave
Yeah it’s rediculous
fast grove
@mellow willow bugged on 2nd server as well
low quail
@dense bone how about ttd?
hardy wave
It needs to be lower. No reason you should ha e to shoot someone so much
solid hinge
I can't act like its not frustrating when someone is able to get cover right after you unload on them
I missed a lot of kills last nihgt
night*
dense bone
if there are problems with ttd that should have been changed before ttk
solid hinge
I agree
low quail
@dense bone do you feel like dying fast or?
dense bone
not sure the question
hardy wave
I agree @solid hinge
fast grove
Good job for not being able to get the first achievement of week #2
SO goddamn annoying all these bugs\
low quail
yeah, do you feel that it's changed?
dense bone
i feel it happens less often, but it still happens
novel mason
I know that I've been experiencing it just as much
dense bone
i only have like 5 games with new ttk though
dense bone
@merry pumice got complaints? go to
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/battlefield-v-general-discussion
thorn wolf
Is the tides V1 mission not working for anyone else?
solid hinge
It's more enjoyable getting kills easier then taking longer to die I think
midnight nimbus
"current TTK similar to BF1" wot
low quail
@thorn wolf from reddit: It states as a squad get 2 kills with the v1 rocket. It is actually. You get 2 by yourself with the v1 rocket. So if your in a squad of 4, you have to do it 4 times with different leaders, for all to get the assignment
thorn wolf
thats dumb
dense bone
@solid hinge its more enjoyable getting headshots and beating people who are bad shots, because higher ttk emphasis that
at least for me
rugged cairn
Also slightly unrelated, but did anyone like the whole decrease in accuracy when suppressed mechanic from bf1?
undone steppe
I liked it
thorn wolf
yes. i feel like suppression dosent do anything in this game
rugged cairn
Me too, just wanted to check what people thought of it
solid hinge
suppresion was good mechanic
undone steppe
yea suppression is kind of worthless in this game, you can blast your mg42 at a sniper and he can still pull off a headshot easy
hardy wave
now that it just encourages bad players to be even worse I mean what’s the point of being shooting from cover if you just tank 20 shots
It doesn’t promote any type of skill increasing ttk
undone steppe
suppression is just a visual effect in this game
karmic summit
Yeah it definitely feels like suppression/bullet flinch need to be more of a thing
dense bone
@hardy wave but you dont need a lot of bullets to kill if you are good and land shots consistently or hs
undone steppe
i liked the suppression mechanic in bf4
solid hinge
since bullets are non lethal they might have some effects
hardy wave
Skills being able to wait through the army of enemies and grab an objective when it actually does take only a couple shots to kill you not six or seven
rugged cairn
So many times I have suppressed a sniper and yet they can still land a perfect headshot
simple marlin
Yo guys, is there glint on x3 for the recon with the semis?
undone steppe
yes
karmic summit
Yes afaik
merry pumice
most people average 18-20% bullet hit with auto ARs and around 30% with semi autos, that means 1 more btk is effectively 4-5- more bullets to kill
simple marlin
yikes
solid hinge
like the sun
rugged cairn
Wait, does the LMG 3x also have glints?
simple marlin
why tho, assault semi dont
merry pumice
only recon 3x
undone steppe
no only recon
solid hinge
no
rugged cairn
Oh good
undone steppe
not really its kind of shitty
dense bone
@hardy wave higher ttk literally means more time for gunplay, theres no way its less skilled required for a higher ttk
solid hinge
but it takes 5 btk
undone steppe
recon 3x shouldnt have glint
rugged cairn
Yeah I agree
merry pumice
but the semi-auto snipers are better than the bolt actions
simple marlin
shh
merry pumice
wouldnt make sense to buff them over bolt actions
rugged cairn
Or at least, make the glint less noticable from certain distances if using less powerful scopes
undone steppe
yeah they need to reduce glint cone for sure
dense bone
i like that idea
rugged cairn
Like, to see a 3x zoom glint, you need to be pretty close
hardy wave
@dense bone people like you are the problem. Wanting to be able to take shots from somewhere and not die so you can return fire and kill them when you’ve already done had your position exposed because you’re less skilled and can’t stay in cover and watch your own ass.
undone steppe
right now glint is like having a massive flashlight on your face lol
hardy wave
If you expose your position and get shit you should die plain and simple. Not be able to tank a bunch of hits and get to cover lol
karmic summit
Saaaaame Revcat
simple marlin
it feels so bad rthough, the irons of those semis are shiiiiiiit
karmic summit
I was an iron sights god in BF1 with the kar98
rugged cairn
Wish they had more interesting guns like the russian trench or m1907 experimental from bf1
I loved the trench
dense bone
@hardy wave positioning isnt a skill, its knowledge, getting the drop SHOULDNT GUARANTEE a kill, it should give you an advantage. so IF the two players are the same skill level, its HIGHLY likely that the person who got the drop will win, as it should be. if someone is a bad shot they shouldnt win JUST because they go the drop and a low ttk lets them just land a few bullets to get the kill.
glad spire
knowledge = skill
glad spire
maybe if you compare it to irl applications
dense bone
knowledge is knowing how to do it, skill is actually being able to do it
glad spire
but raw skill in bf comes from knowledge and mechanics and all of that kind of stuff
dense bone
everyone knows headhots are better, but not everyone can headshot consistently
that the difference
hardy wave
Makes no sense lol. Using my knowledge and skill to achieve an advantageous position to take somebody out to get three for shots on them and you can manage to turn around and do a little strange thing and still shoot accurately after taking a ton of damage and it doesn’t make sense
undone steppe
idk i think getting the drop on someone should guarantee a kill
glad spire
thanks for the insight tho
dense bone
if you have the same skill as them, yea
but if you are a bad shot and they are a good shot, they have a chance to win
doesnt mean they will
they just have a chance with higher ttk
hardy wave
If I get a drop on somebody went three rounds and they don’t die and are able to somehow turn acquire target and shoot accurately after taking three rounds worth of damage it’s retarded
dense bone
thats it
undone steppe
if your missing enough shots that they can turn around and kill you then your just bad
dense bone
@hardy wave if you cant kill someone when you have the drop on them, you are bad
simple
well, they could just be god like
undone steppe
the new ttk gives people that chance to turn on you tho
rugged cairn
Also is it me, or does melee feel less powerful than say, bf1
dense bone
which in both cases, you dont deserve the kill
hardy wave
You should probably go look up my profile score person minute KD and all that before you make ignorant comments like that lol js
dense bone
link them
glad spire
new ttk only gives good players more edge against bad players
and here we have a whinefest 😄
solid hinge
it is regrettable that ttk has become the topic instead of game
hardy wave
Look at my profile in battlefield for battlefield one battlefield five and then say that to me
glad spire
there are bigger problems in bfv, like lack of content
hardy wave
Don’t know why did double message there
glad spire
and a weird mindset with the nerfing, go from op to totally useless, JU-88 for example
solid hinge
oh come on 3 gadgets a class and 1 is usually worthless...
undone steppe
the ju88 is still good tho
rugged cairn
Also I wish we could call reinforcements while in the spawn screen
solid hinge
no offense?
glad spire
yeah junkers is okay but it was a too big nerf
undone steppe
people who have problems with the ttk and ttd are people whove played battlefield for a long time
hardy wave
I never had a problem killing people. Still don’t. Just aggravating when you have to drop so much more shots now. And people think it’s okay. And surviving and tactics are no longer skills.
undone steppe
same here. then let me reword it. the majority of people who have a problem with ttk are veterans and fans
midnight nimbus
higher TTK = more time to get attritioned 😂
hardy wave
I have been on bf since day one also
dense bone
its an extra bullet or 2 in worst case scenarios to get a kill compared to old ttk
thats not a dramatic difference
and link your stats
im at work
you brought up your stats, you provide them
hardy wave
Higher ttk is just people who can’t handle losing or the fact someone got the drop on them
dense bone
in a game that hides campers so well, they should be guaranteed kills just because they hid in a stationary spot
thats my opinion though
obsidian fossil
#makebattlefieldlikephantomforces
glad spire
stats in BFV aint a proper measurement tho, there are various styles to "abuse" a public playground like bfv
midnight nimbus
it's more than an extra bullet or 2 in a lot of scenarios
dense bone
no, stats are not end all, he could be a camper that doesnt play obj and goes 10-2 each game, and has a 4.0 kdr
midnight nimbus
spread and recoil
solid hinge
if grenades were lethal corner camping would be less
glad spire
you should try 12G
solid hinge
but m80s aint doing nothing
glad spire
if you havent 😄
dense bone
it takes 1-2 bullets more on HIT to kill, if you are missing, thats your own damn fault
glad spire
there's no problem with ttk with it
dense bone
idc if you are mag dumping and it takes you 30 bullets for 1 kill
thats not my or the games fault
you missed
glad spire
yeah if you can consistently pump people with hits, 1-2 extra hits aint a problem
it's just better for you if you are good aimer
dense bone
@hardy wave link?
glad spire
you die less, they die more
dense bone
yea not impressed with your bfv stats
rocky verge
Wait how are snowflakes
midnight nimbus
spread and recoil affect hit probabilities, even if you do aim right
dense bone
score min is horrible, kd is ok, but kills min is lowest ive seen, win % is ok
hardy wave
Okay lol
dense bone
just telling you the truth
rocky verge
Kolibre
rocky verge
midnight nimbus
RSC SMG 😤
rugged cairn
viscid crater
mfw you're calling for people to stop talking about the TTK like 4 hours ago and you're still here talking about it 
dense bone
they are at least being constructive and not devolving into semantics and name calling @viscid crater
this is nice
i like this convo
hardy wave
I only really play assault so you might wanna check those stats before you make dumb comments lol
glad spire
@rugged cairn you like listening to random screaming? 😄
rugged cairn
Surprisingly yes
dense bone
@hardy wave me?
hardy wave
Yes you lol
rugged cairn
Also AHA MINMAT
glad spire
you should all just chill out, gitgud or uninstall
rugged cairn
*minimat
glad spire
my piece of advice
dense bone
those stats are bad across the board, assault or not
hardy wave
The overall is mixed with all classes and I don’t play the other classes that much. Once in a while
merry ivy
I miss the “GO GO GO” whistle that squad leaders had in BF1
dense bone
so they hardly affect your overall
rugged cairn
YES
hardy wave
So the overall is average of all classes
rugged cairn
THE WHISTLE
novel mason
@rugged cairn You'll be happy to know I've used basically nothing but my bayonet for my last few games
solid hinge
In conclusion.
Rubber Dildo Bullets= Bad
dense bone
yes, but if you dont play those classes they dont affect it much
rugged cairn
Was so sad they removed it from bfv
dense bone
its simple math
novel mason
Thankfully I use it on the MP34, so my score is safe
viscid crater
Stats are a bit eh tbf, gotta agree with Nyphon as much as it pains me
rugged cairn
I want to go full IJA and eventually put the bayonet on the FG42
novel mason
Tons of revives > KD
glad spire
it doesnt matter if your stats aint perfect, as long as you play as a team and win more than you lose
then it's good
stray isle
played first domination match with the new TTK. it is very noticable.
dense bone
you know your overall is almos exactly the same as your assault numbers...
merry ivy
its frustrating to use a super soaker and play nurse for my team
novel mason
Thompson & MP40 are not bad weapons at all lol
merry ivy
if I wanted to do that I would play surgeon simulator
rugged cairn
Personally I feel BF1 had the best medic loadout, giving them semi autos
viscid crater
You have a combined 6ish hours in other classes with 4 days with Assault, the stats from the other classes are hardly gonna effect it tbh
dense bone
^
novel mason
Oh the SLRs in BF1 were absolute monsters
rugged cairn
Yeah
glad spire
you just gotta use smokes more and close the gap, it aint a perfect solution but it works surprisingly well
merry ivy
farquhar for life
glad spire
medics are meant to revive people anyway, not to go wicked fragfest
obsidian fossil
you only get a few smokes though
dense bone
which proves that @hardy wave overall numbers are VERY close to his assault numbers, which are still meh
novel mason
Mondragon or riot
rugged cairn
They gave medics a lot of flexibility imo
merry ivy
farquhar hill is better reeee
novel mason
You get four if you run grenades & smoke rifle
merry ivy
laughs in 20 round detachable drum
glad spire
you can still kill people from midrange if you are tapping with the smg
dense bone
youre not bad @hardy wave , youre not good either though
merry ivy
im doing a lot better in BFV than BF1
rugged cairn
I also remember the 'skill cannon' that was the autoloading 8
The one in bfv feels so slow
novel mason
I have most of my BF1 kills with that
viscid crater
@hardy wave Better KDR than more but I have over 100 more SPM 
merry ivy
I generally play slow in FPS games and that punished me in BF1 because I’d end up being surrounded by 32 hellriegels
hardy wave
Well according to your stats you aren’t that good either lol
merry ivy
in BFV it rewards me
viscid crater
@hardy wave who?
hardy wave
Nyphon
novel mason
solid hinge
https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/psn/EpicGamer-228/overview ill take a roast boys
novel mason
What a unique username you have
glad spire
i think spm is a bit bugged tho
undone steppe
i think spm is bugged as well
glad spire
i rarely play alone tho, usually with 1-3 mates
dense bone
@hardy wave lol, i hardly see anyone with better overall stats, from spm, kpm, and kdr to win %
glad spire
so that boosts it a bit
glad lily
https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/Xsilient
Roast my damage total
dense bone
and i play solo
glad spire
but i also play objective exclusively
rugged cairn
https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/Anataema/overview are you ready to claw your eyes out
viscid crater
I usually play with my GF (not the best) or solo queue
solid hinge
@glad spire i laughed looking at your decent stats and then look at medic and youre at 1.76kdr
smgs balanced, right? :^)
merry ivy
roast me reeee
indigo kindle
3 shots from LSR to kill anyone and its 5 round mag
rocky verge
rugged cairn
SLR you mean
glad spire
@solid hinge well i dont see big problems with the class
indigo kindle
SLR sorry
novel mason
https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/psn/hwkeye/overview
Let's talk about this absolute hero. Zero kills, 3.4k revives, and 36k heals
solid hinge
it's my favorite class
glad spire
and i usually play it on devastation and just rush to the flag 247
viscid crater
@novel mason DAMN
rugged cairn
This guy is literally jesus
rocky verge
Who
undone steppe
lmao
glad lily
Please lord, let me get one more
undone steppe
1 assist
rocky verge
We need a medic jesus in bf5
merry ivy
PLEASE LAWD
rocky verge
