battlefield-legacy-titles

[sleek tartan]

🤣

[sacred hull]

they fixed it

lets get it

im playin some bf then

[lapis hare]

BF4 > all other games

[viscid crater]

@simple marlin I didn't get any 😦

[solid hinge]

BF1>BFV
i agree! BF1 has horses, after all

[polar imp]

Every game has its issues so you can’t just rip them apart

[undone steppe]

i still havent gotten any cc

[novel mason]

I feel more immersed when I play BF1 and I have no idea why

[simple marlin]

Bf 1942 best gam

[dense bone]

@solid hinge whose saying the game is sunshine and rainbows?

[solid hinge]

@lapis hare I would say battlefield 3

[craggy estuary]

@sleek tartan then every opinion after this is to be ignored

[solid hinge]

@dense bone you

[swift condor]

BFBC2 > any other BF

[dense bone]

where?

[merry ivy]

when can DICE give us a super soaker in BFV and allow us to have a decent time to kill for a gun

[dense bone]

right, you cant find anything

[sleek tartan]

@craggy estuary SpongbobBattlefield

[polar imp]

Dice needs to make a bf4/3 style game again

[solid hinge]

Hardline > your mom and every battlefield game combined

[lapis hare]

@solid hinge triple boise (battlefield bad company 2, battlefield 3 & 4)

[novel mason]

How many of you have used the bayonet for a bit in BFV

[undone steppe]

bc2 was the best along with bf2

[polar imp]

@novel mason haven’t touched it

[craggy estuary]

@sleek tartan not really

[swift condor]

@polar imp yeah they do but actually finish it this time

[jovial forge]

Bayonent is only on my Enfield and 1907

[craggy snow]

@sinful steppe let's see then?

[novel mason]

I hadn't either until a few days ago, now I absolutely love it on the MP34

[polar imp]

@swift condor that is true

[novel mason]

Medic can tank while charging then heal right after indefinitely 🤣

[polar imp]

@novel mason is it any good

[viscid crater]

@novel mason top gameplay that champ

[novel mason]

I mean, you go pretty fast for a while, and it's an insta-kill

[lapis hare]

& you get the sexy scream from your character

[novel mason]

Hard to use when there's a group of people though

[swift condor]

We need a game mode of only iron sight model 8

[merry ivy]

I would compare medic SMGs to nerf guns, but nerf guns are effective beyond 9 metres

[novel mason]

I still want a first person only server just to see what it'd be like

[polar imp]

I could see it being decent if you’re just running around picking off small numbers of guys

[novel mason]

That's how I've been using it so far. Very effective for clearing points on just about any map

[simple marlin]

again complaining on smgs

[polar imp]

Maybe I’ll give it a shot later

[novel mason]

Because nobody uses it, they never expect it

[simple marlin]

medics actually got the advantage in any cq fights with the smgs that got clip size upgrade

[polar imp]

The element of surprise

[novel mason]

Thompson w/ specializations is really nothing to scoff at

[swift condor]

M1928 with drum mag

[simple marlin]

and they're the most able to kill 4-5people in a row with big dick clip

so ye, enjoy idk

[lapis hare]

yes

7 rounds to kill a guy

[novel mason]

I just can't handle the Thompsons horizontal recoil, personally

[chilly stirrup]

Anyone else still enjoying bf1

[lapis hare]

thats literally breathing down your neck

[novel mason]

It's not seven though :(

[simple marlin]

7rounds in cq ?

[swift condor]

It's that Kevlar they wear in WW2

[simple marlin]

its 4 yes

[swift condor]

Tough as nails

[lapis hare]

shouldn't be that much

[craggy snow]

Headshots to kill hasn't changed though

[lapis hare]

for some guy that could lick your eye

[craggy snow]

So just headshot

[novel mason]

Actually 'cause I was curious I looked. Only body shots in CQB w/ SMGs is 5 BTK

[solid hinge]

just click heads lol

[novel mason]

After a while headshots get easier in cqb tho

[craggy snow]

Hipfiring seems to give you mad headshots

[swift condor]

Headshots on recon class are super easy too

[craggy snow]

Headshot on v1 is best

[lapis hare]

yea, if you're staying in the same place

[swift condor]

Nope

[novel mason]

After a while it gets easier

[lapis hare]

I don't bother with recon at all

so I wouldn't know

[craggy snow]

Recon is for noobers

[swift condor]

I play recon on Hamada

That's about it

[craggy snow]

Unless you use the spotting scope as a primary

[simple marlin]

wish that recon got proper weapons that arent the kar98k

[novel mason]

I played it for a bit because I heard it was especially hard to PTFO in V, but other than that I don't bother

Enfield is good :(

[simple marlin]

like, a semi or idk

[lapis hare]

wish that medic would get guns

that aren't toys

[novel mason]

I still think it's weird that the medic didn't get shotguns

[craggy snow]

Recon should get machine pistols. Medic should get carbines.

[simple marlin]

wish that ppl would stop insulting my favourite class ingame and it is medic

[novel mason]

Odd to have two different CQB classes

[craggy snow]

Game fixed

[brittle cargo]

bRo MedIC doEsnT NEeD GunS JUsT HEAL OTHERs

[novel mason]

ew

[craggy snow]

@brittle cargo that's bad for my kd

[swift condor]

Hacksaw ridge lol

[glossy locust]

TTK isn't that bad just makes guns that already needed a buff feel worse

[novel mason]

I kinda want to play a match just healing & reviving tbh

[swift condor]

It works

[brittle cargo]

'lawd lemme get one mo'

[simple marlin]

most medics are just not using the smokes

[novel mason]

Ooo! Battlenonsense finished his tests with DICE just a bit ago

[swift condor]

@novel mason BFV is the only one of the series where reviving people is enjoyable

[solid hinge]

#MAKEBFVGREATAGAIN

[glossy locust]

the argument that lower TTK is more high skilled is nonsense, let's just get that out of the way

[novel mason]

I'll assume you mean reviving, and honestly I thought it was fun in BF1 too, which makes me remember how much I miss syringe kills :(

We never got syringe skins either

[swift condor]

Yeah sorry

[unborn blaze]

It's not nonsense

[novel mason]

I play medic in every game I own just 'cause it's always been the most fun to me, but I especially like it in BFV because numbers feel like they matter

[undone steppe]

its more tactical therefore you need to think about your actions instead of running around like rambo

[lapis hare]

just give medics slr's

boom

finnito

[novel mason]

I really like medics being CQB now

[glossy locust]

complete nonsense, what high skilled esports games have low TTK (excluding headshots)

[novel mason]

SLRs were stronk in BF1

[swift condor]

I run in front of gunfire just to revive someone

[craggy snow]

It's like when people say hardcore is harder than core 😂

[novel mason]

I do the same, but it usually ends in myself getting killed before I can revive them, or we both die :(

[undone steppe]

battlefield isnt a high skilled esport tho

[lapis hare]

the weapon choices in bf5 alpha

was amazing

SLRs on medic

[craggy snow]

Casualfield

[novel mason]

Also if anyone here is a support main, pls equip ammo crates and put them next to me <3

[lapis hare]

😍

[swift condor]

Hardcore on BF4 made me look at the big Map a lot more

[solid hinge]

it had potential with the way it was on launch it just took a wrong turn

[glossy locust]

the headshots do the same damage, so therefore headshots are way more valuable therefore aiming accurately is much more valuable

[craggy snow]

Hardcore is for noobs who are too confused by arma

[novel mason]

That's exactly me

[undone steppe]

lol

[glossy locust]

acting like arma is even a shooter

[novel mason]

I am very confused by arma

[undone steppe]

hardcore is fun so is arma

[craggy snow]

Arma is just standing about simulator

But at least it's tactical.

[glossy locust]

arma is a wait in one spot for 25 minutes to get a shot type game

[novel mason]

Our boy Dan hasn't said anything in so long on any social medias :(

[swift condor]

Battlefield can be tactical

[alpine apex]

Hey people. Good to see you all :9

[craggy snow]

Hardcore is just loads of 40 year old men who can't land more than 2 bullets on target per magazine.

[swift condor]

Key word "can"

[solid hinge]

Dude dice fucked people for real especially their core fans

[novel mason]

I'm just gonna stop this rabbit hole of a debate before it starts pls

[alpine apex]

DICE should use CTE to test thing.

[undone steppe]

battlefield was more tactical before the new TTK

[solid hinge]

It’s true they really fucked people over

[swift condor]

How long we been going

[glossy locust]

who did they fuck people that like to spray down a whole group with no retaliation

[solid hinge]

Like me

[novel mason]

Like two hours or so

[glossy locust]

i thought you didn't like call of duty?

[novel mason]

It will never end

[swift condor]

Lol

It'll stop then seven people all start typing at once

[alpine apex]

DICE should just go the normal Battlefield way. Normal and hardcore and normal as the old TTK.

[swift condor]

Like that

[molten flume]

Truly sad they had to change ttk. First time in years that i'd want to get back from work and play a game

[viscid crater]

When Westie, the choir boy of Dice publicly criticizes them. You know something is wrong.

[undone steppe]

it wont end until they revert back

[glossy locust]

raising the TTK does not make the game more casual like wtf are you guys on

[cedar jay]

@viscid crater lol u right

[alpine apex]

I have a question for you all. Anybody know anything about RSP?

[little fjord]

I liked the ttk where it was

[solid hinge]

Fuck the causals

Only the core fans matter

[craggy snow]

The game is already casual.

[novel mason]

But just put it on the forums or the subreddit :(

No one important reads anything here

[molten flume]

Increasing ttk makes it harder for casuals as they have to have good game. Dice logic is pretty thin

[craggy snow]

Stop pretending it's got really deep gameplay

[solid hinge]

It was more tactical than battlefield 1 with attrition and the new squad system

[glossy locust]

ok the core fans if you can't aim then now you suck at the game when before 3 bullets from an LMG from 500 yards would drop you

[craggy snow]

Battlefield is just shooting blobs

[glossy locust]

LMGs were better snipers than snipers

in old ttk

[little fjord]

And changing the ttk doesn't help new players at all...... they need to separate the noobs from the veteran players... that's the only solution, not ttk

[novel mason]

At least we're not shooting triangles anymore

[undone steppe]

they could have kept old ttk and modified weapon stats

[solid hinge]

Yeah I like how they make separate playlists 😂

[alpine apex]

Thank they removed 3D-spotting.

[novel mason]

I do feel bad for the people that bought it for the TTK specifically, then had it changed right away

[solid hinge]

And I can only play conquest the one mode I hate in battlefield 5

[rugged cairn]

guys

question

the upgrades that change the ammo type
are they a seperate one you can swap to so you can use either the regular or specialized one as needed, or does it replace the regular ammo completely

[cedar jay]

bring back the old ttk+fix ttd+release many good content=masterpiece

[novel mason]

They're seperate, yeah

[glossy locust]

news flash battlefield never had a call of duty like TTK before BFV and now people are upset that they took it out

[alpine apex]

We need RSP so we can run our own servers with our own settings.

[novel mason]

It takes a while to load AP ammo for a tank, for example.

[glossy locust]

people are reatarded

[novel mason]

Well, not load, but switch between HE and AP

[rugged cairn]

damn, now I feel like an idiot

[novel mason]

😄

[solid hinge]

I'm going to be honest

[undone steppe]

bf4 and bf3 had ttk similar to old ttk

[jovial forge]

TTK 1.0 felt like BF3's TTK

[rugged cairn]

so you can swap ammo types between regular and specialized, irght?

[solid hinge]

i like new ttk

[simple marlin]

So, I just did a headshot with the lee enflield for like 20m range and it didnt kill the target?

[novel mason]

Correct

[simple marlin]

the fuck is that?

[solid hinge]

but it could be improved

[glossy locust]

you are out of your mind

[rugged cairn]

damnit

[novel mason]

Are you 100%?

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge oh god no

[rugged cairn]

I feel like an idiot trying to unload 20mm justice into a tiger back

[glossy locust]

bf3 and bf4 did not have nearly as fast a TTK as BFV

[undone steppe]

yes they did look it up

[rugged cairn]

and wondering why I did so little damage even with the AP tree unlocked

[solid hinge]

Bf4 has faster ttk

[novel mason]

Hehe

[rugged cairn]

turns out I need to swap to it 😦

[swift condor]

Valentine can outgun a tiger

[jovial forge]

BF3's was faster

[glossy locust]

no it doesn't

[solid hinge]

Yes it does

[glossy locust]

proof?

[novel mason]

To be fair, I don't know how much 20MM will do against a Tiger

[undone steppe]

in fact they are faster

[alpine apex]

BF2, BF3 and BF4, I was in love 😃

[rugged cairn]

the 20mm is decent at knocking out parts imos

[jovial forge]

I played since Heroes to now so yes it was faster

[molten flume]

lol this guy thinks ttk is lower in bf3 due to the gun fire in bf5 being slower

[little fjord]

Slow or fast ttk doesn't matter, noobs buy the game and get farmed by veteran players, that's the problem and the solution is giving a place for noobs to play with themselves

😏

[undone steppe]

ive played since bf2 so i can tell you they were def faster than now

[novel mason]

But as long as everyone is having fun, does it matter

[rugged cairn]

also I feel it can out dps a regular non-specialized anti tank cannon, but you need to sustain your fire

[merry mica]

Man. I’ve been trying to find a “Hardcore” game for 30 minutes. Yet to connect to a server with more than 10 people in it

[rugged cairn]

you can't just pop and scoot

[craggy snow]

The only tanks worth using are Valentine and Panzer IV

Case shell is insane

[novel mason]

To be fair, it's hardly peak time in the US @merry mica

[undone steppe]

panzer iv ftw

[jovial forge]

I still use the Churchill and Tiger

[novel mason]

I like the tiny british one

[rugged cairn]

I wish the flakpanzer was better at indiscriminate war crimes murder

[merry mica]

@novel mason that’s fair. No games in 30 minutes of searching tho?

[craggy snow]

I think the tiger is the worst tank in the game. Same with the Churchill gun carrier.

[jovial forge]

It annoys me that infantry can still survive a tank shell from the Panzer 38

[gray glade]

tiger works well for specific situations

[craggy snow]

Normal Churchill is decent.

[gray glade]

tiger works well if you have a repair depot close by

[rugged cairn]

how's the 95mm howitzer for the churchill?

[novel mason]

@merry mica It's definitely bad, yea. Especially 30 minutes :/ I really wish we had the stats on player counts for each mode, 'cause I'm really curious about all of that.

[glossy locust]

http://symthic.com/bf4-ttk-btk-charts?assault=1&btk=1

[jovial forge]

95mm howizter sucks

[glossy locust]

who was the idiot who said bf4 had faster TTK

[novel mason]

Can we talk about how good the Sturmtiger is against infantry for a sec

[worn cave]

@simple marlin it wasn't a headshot then, Enfield still 1HK's with headshots for sure.

[jovial forge]

You have to be in the infantry's or Tanks face to use it

[glossy locust]

looks like most guns took 5-6 bullets to kill

[rugged cairn]

I mean, it fires 380mm anti bunker rockets, why wouldn't it be good on infantry

[jovial forge]

95mm drops like a rock to

[gray glade]

@novel mason is it?

[undone steppe]

bf4 had faster firing weapons

[novel mason]

Ohhh yeah. If the absolutely gigantic splash doesn't get them, you're bound to blow up the entire building they're in, so the debris'll get them

[sacred hull]

did they decrease or increase ttk

[undone steppe]

its slower than the slowest from bf4

[rugged cairn]

also, why do the brits get a 5th vehicle

I want the germans to get a stug III

[glossy locust]

http://symthic.com/bf4-ttk-btk-charts?allkdmr=1&recon=1&assault=1&btk=1

[novel mason]

Maus or bust

[solid hinge]

Yeah I’m looking at the chart and it’s still slower

[craggy snow]

@rugged cairn it's not a good extra vehicle

[gray glade]

@sacred hull increase

[jovial forge]

why does the stag survive 1 v 1s against tigers?

[glossy locust]

looks like semi-autos took 3-4 hits to kill

in bf4

[rugged cairn]

yeah it isn't, which makes it weird why it's even included

[glossy locust]

assault rifels too 4-5

[gray glade]

@jovial forge usually cuz the tiger player isnt playing defensive enough

[solid hinge]

Especially considering that battlefield 4 had faster firing weapons than battlefield 5

[glossy locust]

so how is it different now?

[solid hinge]

Like the aek

And famas

[undone steppe]

i just said

[gray glade]

If you wanna Tiger effeciently, watch yer ass!

[undone steppe]

all the weapons were modern so they had a higher rate of fire

[rugged cairn]

also this is weird, but I miss the mk v from bf1

[solid hinge]

I mean medic smgs take 6 fucking shots to kill at close range

[novel mason]

Do any of you guys play medic a bunch? I'm not really one to care about my stats much, but I want to know how 27k heals is relative to other peoples

[gray glade]

tiger tank driving means you have to play REALLY defensive

your teammate will hate u but who cares

[undone steppe]

if you do the math the slowest weapon with ttk from bf4 is slower than any current ttk in bfv @glossy locust

[novel mason]

Actually it's 5 @solid hinge :P

[jovial forge]

I know that part, yet we still see stags and other small vehicles rushing it from the front

[solid hinge]

That’s still awful

[glossy locust]

yeah if you hit the body and can't hit the head becaue you suck, anyways we know SMGs need a buff and they have needed one since launch it has nothing ot do with TTK

[rugged cairn]

flanking a tiger feels good

[jovial forge]

and one shot manages to get a disable on the turrent

[novel mason]

I mean, an SMG that fires pretty damn fast with a mag capacity of 25+? Not half bad in practice.

[gray glade]

flanking tigers is what the allies tried to do irl as well

[solid hinge]

The semi autos got nuked

The slrs got the heavy nukes

[novel mason]

Like, the Sten is alright in CQB, but the Thompson is ludicrous

[jovial forge]

Flanking a tiger is fine, its when they cheese it from the front is boggling

[glossy locust]

let's seein bf4 the upp-45 took 4 hits to the body up close and 5 at 20 meters and further

[solid hinge]

is there any news of a ttk revert?

[glossy locust]

how is it different??

[little fjord]

Smg should get a more aggressive damage dropoff... they should absolutely shred inside 20m

[dense bone]

they wouldnt revert the ttk after 1 day of testing

[novel mason]

@solid hinge No. They have said they believe it's fairly unbalanced right now, and will be working to level things out in the future, though.

[solid hinge]

oh ok, thats good news

[dense bone]

thats when people would be the most volatile and least constrictive

[solid hinge]

thanks for letting me know!

[glossy locust]

SMGS needed a buff anyways

[dense bone]

let alone not a lot of time to test it

[gray glade]

is it me, or are there fewer "instant deaths" today after the TTK?

[solid hinge]

I’m playing bulletspongefield 5

[gray glade]

i feel i died less from them today

[solid hinge]

Lol

[dense bone]

@gray glade ttk went live yesterday

[gray glade]

yeah

but did it affect instant deaths

[dense bone]

HAHAHA so funny luoenzo, havent heard that before

[viscid crater]

[solid hinge]

It’s true 😄

[glossy locust]

go play CS and see how many smg bullets to the chest someone takes before dying, (hint it's about 6)

hit them in the fucking head

[viscid crater]

Comparing CS:GO to battlefield. 👏

[novel mason]

For sure! I got that info from a devs twitter btw, can't quite remember which one. The devs that post constantly on twitter (that I know of) are

@merry cedar
@indigo sedge
&
@devout crater_mitre (Technically the community manager but w/e)

@solid hinge

[solid hinge]

Headshot hit boxes are fucked in battlefield 5 along with the shit netcode

[dense bone]

headshots are nice

[novel mason]

:(

I removed the tags, but it still tried to tag them

[solid hinge]

Also I can’t even properly aim with a gun in csgo

[novel mason]

At least our role can't tag devs lmao

[viscid crater]

rip

[undone steppe]

this is battlefield not cs

[solid hinge]

ill check them out, thanks again

[dense bone]

you in trouble now @novel mason

[solid hinge]

At least ads

[glossy locust]

yeah let's eliminate the comparison of any other first=person shooter nothing can be compared to battlefield

retarded

[novel mason]

I don't wanna have to add banned to my name D:

[dense bone]

just do it already

[viscid crater]

it was a mistake relax

[grave loom]

O no another one

[solid hinge]

Because you can’t compare csgo to battlefield to the same standards

[dense bone]

negatron

[jovial forge]

why would you compare two entirely different games with different engines?

[solid hinge]

Like bruh

[undone steppe]

csgo is competitive and not even on the scale of battlefield

[viscid crater]

@jovial forge intelligence that's why 😐

[dense bone]

because they are both shooters

[viscid crater]

......

[novel mason]

I'm kidding lol @viscid crater

[dense bone]

and one is deemed one of the most competitive fps of our time

[viscid crater]

Two completely different games

[solid hinge]

That’s like me comparing rainbow six siege to cod like that’d be a retarded comparison

[viscid crater]

not even in the same realm

[novel mason]

But what about Pong vs. Battlefield

[solid hinge]

Two totally different games

[dense bone]

both fps shooters

theres comparisons

[jovial forge]

Last thing I remember of CS is that its Hackers Strike, Global offensive BS

[viscid crater]

No

[novel mason]

I personally feel like the tactical feel of Pong was much greater, but its subjective really

[dense bone]

they are not the same shooters

[solid hinge]

Still can’t compare them to the same standards

[dense bone]

but to not compare or to think they dont look to eachother (any shooter should look to cs for balance) is absurd

oh no, not the same standards

but you can and should compare

[novel mason]

When boins are out we should compare the microtransactions

[solid hinge]

No you shouldn’t compare those two dummy

[dense bone]

but its is not a 1:1 comparison

[jovial forge]

You shouldn't actually.

[viscid crater]

Comparing them is like comparing cheese and Butter. Technically they're both milk but they're completely different

[jovial forge]

Compare Battlefield to Battlefield

[solid hinge]

One is fast paced run and gun and the other is tactical and competitive

[dense bone]

and both are shooters

[jovial forge]

shooters yes but not the same at their core

[viscid crater]

In that sense then, let's compare Gears Of War to BFV

[jovial forge]

plus one is 64 players tops while the other is what...6 v 6?

[undone steppe]

well the ttk is similar to halo now

[dense bone]

you should compare to everything that is relative

[solid hinge]

Cod and siege are not relative

[jovial forge]

CS is not relative to Battlefield

[solid hinge]

Cs is definitely not relative to battlefield

[glossy locust]

We all want battlefield to be a competitive and balanced shooter

[dense bone]

so we are saying that two games that share the same genre are completely different... that doesnt make sense

[jovial forge]

Yes

thats exactly it

[solid hinge]

I want battlefield to not be a competitive shooter but a balanced semi tactical shooter

[viscid crater]

Orange man you hurt my head

[jovial forge]

right

[solid hinge]

TTK is rarted

well, they're right, just because it's the same genre doesn't mean that they're comparable

[glossy locust]

Why is a low ttk good for battlefield but not good for cs or any shooter that is not a simulator?

[glad lily]

Pubg is fps but it's not the same

[solid hinge]

I lost brain cells to orange

Help

you could probably compare Titanfall with futuristic CoD games
but not battlefield with CS

[novel mason]

🇴 🇷 🇦 🇳 🇬

[solid hinge]

And bryjoered

[dense bone]

you didnt have much to lose

[glad lily]

Doom is fps but it's not the samd

[viscid crater]

@dense bone k

[solid hinge]

I guess I’m comparing doom to battlefield

[fathom pebble]

[dense bone]

and im sorry i made you think joshy

[solid hinge]

Doom would win by a long shot

[dense bone]

ill try not to

[dark pilot]

Sad that reading a sentence makes your head hurt

[dense bone]

^

[dark pilot]

and having to compare one FPS game to another

[dense bone]

^

[viscid crater]

So being a smartarse now are we 👏

[solid hinge]

Jeez, this chat is a mess lol

[undone steppe]

there are some similarities between cs and bf but not many

[dense bone]

after an hour of the same 3 people being smartasses to me, i finally clap back and you point it out?

what kind of twisted shit is that

[novel mason]

@solid hinge Run while you can

[glossy locust]

The only mainstream/non simulation shooter with a TTK similar to vanilla bfv is you guessed it COD

Lol

[jovial forge]

Battlefield doesn

[viscid crater]

The fact that the majority of the community rejected the TTK shows its worse. The fact you can't see that is baffling

[novel mason]

It feels like BFV has been out for so long already. Hard to believe it's been ~4 weeks

[gray glade]

the majority of the community didnt say anything

[dense bone]

majority means nothing... otherwise ariana grande is the best artist of our time...

[dark pilot]

Seems pretty divided to me

[pastel dew]

Can someone please explain to me what TTK is, and what is the difference with weapon damage opposed to someones health i don't get it

[jovial forge]

Battlefield doesn't have body armor

[dark pilot]

but I leave reddit and discord, so idk

[gray glade]

there is a very vocal reddit community that spammed it

[glossy locust]

Majority of the community probably hasn't even played it

[glad lily]

🍊 is ☣

[dense bone]

the fact you think popular opinion means something is baffling

[viscid crater]

LOL

[glossy locust]

It has only been live 24 hours

[delicate panther]

@pastel dew it now takes more bullets to kill someone in a body part except head

[dense bone]

i mean, there are way more stupid people in the world than smart

[viscid crater]

You're delusional tbh

[delicate panther]

kinda like that

[pastel dew]

@delicate panther Regardless of damage of the weapon?

[jovial forge]

You've got plenty of people including the parrot youtubers saying it isn't good.

[dense bone]

doesnt meant anything..

[pastel dew]

@delicate panther Because you do less damage etc?

[viscid crater]

lol

OK THEN

[dense bone]

other than its a popular opinion

[novel mason]

@pastel dew

TTK = Time to kill, same as damage really. So if a weapons TTK was 5, it would take 5 seconds to kill someone

[dense bone]

thats it

[solid hinge]

Can someone please explain to me what TTK is, and what is the difference with weapon damage opposed to someones health i don't get it
@pastel dew TTK stands for time to kill, if you balance TTK then all weapons' damage are affected, opposed to balancing a particular weapon's damage

[dark pilot]

You say that like youtubers aren't a cancer upon the earth

[dense bone]

^

[vague dagger]

@pastel dew damage us lowered to make nearly every gun need more bullets

[undone steppe]

youtubers def are

[glossy locust]

So we discount westie all the time but when he says something that goes with the hive mind we praise him

[dense bone]

i bet when those same youtubers say something you dont agree with you call them shills and paid off

[glossy locust]

People are retarded

[pastel dew]

So TTK is just a broad specturm as aw hole?

[novel mason]

When people complain about TTD, they complain about the networking not being able to keep up, so all the damage comes in at once

Correct

[pastel dew]

Doesn't higher TTK make it more challening?

[delicate panther]

its now much easyer to react on getting shot

[dense bone]

higher ttk is more challenging

[novel mason]

Higher TTK = more seconds to kill

[gray glade]

the only real objection i have for the new TTK is that specific weapons now, like the mp40 feel unbalanced, i dont see the point that it "doesnt reward good positioning anymore" as valid tbh

[solid hinge]

TTK IN BIG GAMES NEEDS TO BE FAST,CUZ THERE IS A LOTTA TARGETS.

[dense bone]

you have to land more shots

[jovial forge]

TTD was the issue, but someone messed with the TTK to cover up the TTD which is still in effect. Lose/lose

[solid hinge]

Higher ttk= more time to take bullet sponges

[pastel dew]

so... i thought people were complaiing the gun play was to omuch like COD so i am confused why people are mad about this change

[solid hinge]

Higher ttk= mindless aggression

[gray glade]

higher ttk also means you can be agressive

its not mindless

[viscid crater]

I've said this already, Westie speaking out about these changes shows how bad they are.

[dense bone]

higher ttk means more emphasis on skill

[undone steppe]

the thing is, the community wanted the original TTK, they could have just figured out the netcode and fixed that and it would have been great

[delicate panther]

higher ttk = less time to react on getting shot = die faster

[solid hinge]

Higher ttk= rewards bad positioning

[dense bone]

lol

[solid hinge]

so... i thought people were complaiing the gun play was to omuch like COD so i am confused why people are mad about this change
people who were comparing this game to CoD for having fast ttk were just a loud minority tbh

[pastel dew]

im so confused

[gray glade]

there need to be some sort of way of rewarding a player doing a smart agressive move

[pastel dew]

ifeel like an idiot

[dense bone]

higher ttk has less emphasis on positioning, but it doesnt reward it

[glossy locust]

Only Gane with a low tti outside if simulation is once again cod

[gray glade]

dont just reward the player laying prone waiting by a doorway

[glossy locust]

Lol

[gray glade]

give both players a chance

[solid hinge]

In the past i could win 1v3 face to face with the suomi,now i kill one guy and do 40 damage to the second one

[delicate panther]

it now takes 1 more bullet to kill someone thats the fast explanation

[pastel dew]

i can't even give an opinion or input because i still am not grapsing this

[dense bone]

@solid hinge go for the head

[solid hinge]

Player who sees target first and shoots first should win

[pastel dew]

so why is that bad... @delicate panther

[viscid crater]

@delicate panther It's not as simple as 1 more bullet

[delicate panther]

no idea

[dense bone]

you shouldnt be guaranteed multiple kills JUST because you flanked

[solid hinge]

And hits their shots of course

[glad lily]

High ttk gives people with poor situational awareness a chance, such challenge

[pastel dew]

ughhhhh

[dense bone]

and they will @solid hinge

[jovial forge]

Harder to spray down clumped up potatoes since they have a bigger window to react now

[vague dagger]

@pastel dew they lowered damage on most guns. this means for most guns it takes another bullet to kill. this means it takes longer to kill people.

[dense bone]

same skill, who sees who first wins..

[solid hinge]

You should be able to be rewarded multiple kills for flanking

[gray glade]

@glad lily no need to label people

[dense bone]

if you can land the shots

[glad lily]

High ttk gives people with poor situational awareness a chance, such challenge

[solid hinge]

Not soak up bullets so there next person can just kill you

[delicate panther]

well im out again with this endless discussion

[solid hinge]

@dense bone go for the head with the gun that has the worst accuracy in the game. GG

[glossy locust]

Acting like multiple kills in BF1 was somehow hard y'all are just bad lol

[dense bone]

if you cant control it, its not the games fault

maybe you should learn to control it or go for a different gun

[pastel dew]

Literally from what I am reading everyone has good points, and that's the problem lol

[delicate panther]

i like the new ttk, bye

[solid hinge]

Please dont teach me about battlefield

[novel mason]

That's why the debate will never end lol

[solid hinge]

Please

[novel mason]

We're here forever

[full heart]

Just use the drilling an accept the inner cunts you are

[dense bone]

i disagree with everyone having a good point, imo some are just wrong and stupid

[gray glade]

how many players that complain about the new TTK are good enough to get into a room and take out 3-4 ppl on a regular basis

very few

[jovial forge]

Stuck in a never ending loop

[craggy estuary]

OK I HAVE A SOLUTION

[viscid crater]

Guess when they revert the ttk changes everything will settle down

[full heart]

Anyone with a ke7

[dense bone]

i hope they revert just so i can stop hearing all the baddies cry

[solid hinge]

We need the old ttk

The end.

[delicate panther]

play conquest core

the end

[undone steppe]

@pastel dew people dont like the new TTK because it makes weapons like the Turner SMLE for example, shit. It takes more bullets to kill people now, so semi autos and SLRs suck. Now people will just zerg rush everywhere because they can take more damage. It will turn into a sniper and support meta. Now people can just run around without worrying about being tactical

[viscid crater]

@solid hinge It'll be back don't worry

[craggy estuary]

if you like the new ttk go play on those servers and the ones who want the old ttk can play on the conquest core servers

[vague dagger]

@pastel dew we don't like the change. we liked how it was and think the new one rewards bad players and punishes good players

[viscid crater]

@undone steppe Already has lol

[solid hinge]

@delicate panther I WANNA PLAY TDM,GO,FRONTLINES YK

[dense bone]

@craggy estuary that makes too much sense, you will be deemed a shill

[vague dagger]

@delicate panther why should we be limited to 1 playlist with 1 gamemode

[jovial forge]

Also weapons that were tweaked seperately like the STG are effectively worse off

[viscid crater]

@craggy estuary What if I don't like conquest?

[glossy locust]

Lol tti changes literally does nothing for bad or good players if anything it makes the gap bigger

[craggy estuary]

@viscid crater then tough shit

[viscid crater]

Well alright then

[craggy estuary]

also who plays bf and doesnt like conquest

[undone steppe]

i like conquest but id like to have some variety

[gray glade]

conquest doesnt feel appealing as much anymore to me

its like a game mode without a goal

[viscid crater]

Some prefer the more squad based gameplay of breakthrough

[craggy snow]

@glossy locust you are trying to explain to bad players.

[solid hinge]

i'll be playing on core but i'm worried that it might be taken out, or if it dies eventually

[undone steppe]

not just be restricted to one gamemode because they want to cater to casuals

[glossy locust]

Should just be conquest only game mode worth playing

I am excited for BR though

[craggy estuary]

no the other modes are worth playing

[glossy locust]

On frostbite

[viscid crater]

Excited for BR

Oh it all makes sense now

HA

[solid hinge]

wait..

me too joshyy...

the TTK changes were for BR? lol

[craggy estuary]

why cant one be excited for it?

[sinful steppe]

@viscid crater hold up now

[glossy locust]

Yeah yourself such a competitive tactical player joshy give it a fucking rest

[sinful steppe]

@viscid crater what did you just do

[undone steppe]

@solid hinge that makes sense actually

[dense bone]

anyone know Tin Foil Hats Co. stock lately? gotta be high

[viscid crater]

The only reason BR is going to be in battlefield is because it's a twitch friendly mode that people watch. Nothing more

[craggy estuary]

but all this arguing is bringing out all the toxicity

[solid hinge]

oh wow, i wonder if they changed TTK now in preparation for BR so that the fans would get used to it by the time BR comes out?

[craggy estuary]

@viscid crater so?

[viscid crater]

It's a ploy for free marketing, it'll probably be a sub par variant too.

[craggy estuary]

maybe

[viscid crater]

oooh 64 player BR. Great

[craggy estuary]

but dont make assumptions

[glossy locust]

As soon as a first played br I thought battlefield was perfectly sutied for the game mode

[craggy estuary]

so what if its 64 players

[glossy locust]

The game is made on big naps and vehicles

[undone steppe]

i think that br will be pretty good tbh

[unkempt nexus]

does anyone know why i dont get the points on the tides of war missions, have revived atleast 10 squadmates

[dense bone]

its literally more content for absolutely free, and people still bitch about it...
they even brought in a different dev team!

[glossy locust]

How is 64 players not enough for br?

[craggy estuary]

there is no rule saying br games gotta have 100

@unkempt nexus were you a medic?

[dense bone]

as long as map size is good for 64, it doesnt matter

[unkempt nexus]

no

[viscid crater]

100 is standard for a reason, because it works.

[unkempt nexus]

assault

[viscid crater]

Name one that isn't 100 players?

[novel mason]

It's an issue people have been having, sadly.

[glossy locust]

Uh make a smaller map

[craggy estuary]

@unkempt nexus well idk then. it worked for me

[grave loom]

Csgo Danger zone @viscid crater

[glossy locust]

64 works fun lol

[dense bone]

who is policing how much is standard for br @viscid crater ?

[craggy estuary]

cod

[novel mason]

BATTLE ROYALE POLICE, OPEN UP

[craggy snow]

@viscid crater just doesn't like BR because you can't get carried by your team.

[glossy locust]

Where do you come up with your bs theories LOL

[viscid crater]

Isn't danger zone like 16?

[grave loom]

Yeah

[viscid crater]

@craggy snow OK champ

[grave loom]

so not 100

[proven quartz]

Lol

[viscid crater]

Guess I don't like BR even tho I play them Not so much recently because the novelty is over but you know all

[proven quartz]

[craggy estuary]

cuisine royale only has 30

[solid hinge]

Tanks in br

[viscid crater]

wtf is cusine royale lol

[craggy snow]

I don't know how you have time to play being a professional whiner

[novel mason]

Diner Dash gone wild

[glossy locust]

Br and battlefield are like peanute butter and jelly it fits way better for BF than it did for cod

[viscid crater]

@craggy snow I consider myself more a semi-pro but thanks

[dense bone]

definitely striving for pro though

[solid hinge]

I HOPE THEY ADD THE JU88 WITH 4500KG OF BOMBS IN BR

[viscid crater]

Someones gotta compete with ya Nyphon

[proven quartz]

Lmao this mans said semi pro

[dense bone]

probably the highest accolade you will ever get in anything

[viscid crater]

So we've divulged to insult now.

GREAT!

[craggy estuary]

@viscid crater its made by the ppl that are making the game Enlisted

[dense bone]

lol now?

[proven quartz]

Stats or bust

[glossy locust]

High twotch viewers are good for the game and good for all of us btw

[dense bone]

what happened when yall were calling me a shill?

[glossy locust]

Just so you know

[craggy estuary]

@viscid crater which is an ww2 fps based on the war thunder engine

[viscid crater]

@craggy estuary looking now

[dense bone]

its like arguing with my gf, you can do something and once i react YOU get mad

[viscid crater]

@dense bone thanks

[solid hinge]

so he's your gf? when will u 2 marry?

[craggy estuary]

it actually runs and plays pretty well

[dense bone]

you hit me, i say fuck you "WOOOW now you gotta get mean?"!

[viscid crater]

@craggy estuary looks solid actually. Kinda reminds me of insurgency

[novel mason]

Something something Day of Infamy

[scarlet wave]

@unkempt nexus Try restarting, I had that problem and it worked for me

[glossy locust]

game is perfectly suited for BR great graphics, great vehicles

[dense bone]

i hope vehicles are toned done for br

and not "if you get a tank you basically won"

[glossy locust]

yeah i don't like planes for it

[gray glade]

have you seen the tanks in BFV? 😄

[craggy estuary]

@dense bone they will probably not have much ammo

[glossy locust]

i think tanks work but maybe just light tanks and have it like a power up

[proven quartz]

Anything other than infantry is useless

[dense bone]

jesus christ, can we finally start talking about bf things OTHER than how shit ttk is?

[proven quartz]

No

[dense bone]

damnit

im just waiting to see 1 of 4 names pop up

[proven quartz]

1 week more then sure switch topic

[icy sluice]

AT mines are very effective for assassinating tanks

[glossy locust]

new ttk requires more aiming skill and will make the better players even better than they were before. Newbs can't camp in a corner and farm kills without good aim

[novel mason]

SHH

[dense bone]

i havent played a br in a while, so im stoked

[proven quartz]

Hahaha skill with a higher TTK nope

[icy sluice]

Get behind them, quickly throw three mines, pew, done

[dense bone]

@glossy locust dont bring in facts, it will make their head hurt

[glossy locust]

SMGs and semi auto rifles needed a buff before the patch and they still need one

nothing has changed in gun balance

[dense bone]

higher ttk is generally agreed upon as more skill friendly

[craggy estuary]

hes not wrong tho

[dense bone]

lower benefits who sees who first

[gray glade]

higher TTK = you have to aim better than your opponent for a longer period of time = more skill

[dense bone]

^

its really not a hard concept to grasp

more time shooting, means you need to be a better shot

[glossy locust]

and acting like itos outrageously high like it's Halo is equally insane

like hit them in the head and they go down in two shots

[golden hatch]

Just keep acting like positioning shouldnt matter and only aim should

[dense bone]

right, they increased body dmg by 1

[gray glade]

of course there needs to be a balance

[golden hatch]

😂

[glossy locust]

positioning still matters

like wut

[icy sluice]

Halo has more skill because it takes a century to kill

[golden hatch]

Not as much anymore

[dense bone]

@golden hatch NO ONE is saying that

just that skill importance has been increased

[glossy locust]

getting the drop on your opponent still matters a ton, just not so much that you cna camp and get kills with shit aim

[dense bone]

thats all anyone has said

[undone steppe]

So, the devs actively look at and respond to the reddit sub. Someone posted a survey there about TTK. If it blows up ( which it kind of is) then I'm sure the devs will see it. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JGLF6HD

[icy sluice]

I will die of old age before I will kill anyone in halo

[dense bone]

ffs i dont get these extreme people that claim people are saying "oh so you want ONLY skill and NO positioning" when no one says that

[wild nymph]

Which one is better FG or lewis gun?

[novel mason]

They're really different

[glossy locust]

the TTK is not even "high" by shooter standards, it's not even high compared to battlefield

i really don't get the outrage

[dense bone]

isnt it on par to bf1 now?

[sinful steppe]

@wild nymph try using a real gun instead

[novel mason]

Lewis for an actual MG, FG-42 for something I don't know how to describe

[dense bone]

or is bf1 higher?

[undone steppe]

the ttk is high for bf standards

[glossy locust]

since when i just looked at symthic for bf4

[gray glade]

can we compare it somehow?

[glossy locust]

guess what 5 smg bullets is typical if you don't hit the head

[gray glade]

compare guns with similar rpm's between different games

and we'll see

[novel mason]

I'm sure you could take a gun from BFV that's also in BF1 and compare, yea

Whoever does it will get some hefty internet points

[solid hinge]

Mp28 and mp18

[undone steppe]

i just told you that its slower than the slowest ttk weapon in bf4

[sacred hull]

god this new ttk is awful

[novel mason]

I mean, there are guns that are in both

[sacred hull]

it feels so different

[craggy estuary]

feels the same to me

[undone steppe]

its because bf4 weapons have a higher rof

[novel mason]

different /=/ awful

[strong matrix]

i wanna smoke what u guys

are smoking

[dense bone]

what is ttk on bfv vs bf1

[strong matrix]

higher

[undone steppe]

its slightly higher than bf1 now

[glossy locust]

and bf4 was the pinnacle of weapon balance pretty much 450 samey guns and everyone used the AEK

[undone steppe]

i think one bullet more

[craggy estuary]

@undone steppe no the fuck it isnt

[dense bone]

i thought bfv was lower than bf1, and now with 1 bullet change wouldnt they be the same?

[undone steppe]

look it up

[craggy estuary]

no

the burden of proof is on you

[glossy locust]

bfv had the fasted TTK of any battlefield I have played since maybe the old days

like bf2 or bfbc2

[craggy estuary]

you made the claim now back it up

[dense bone]

im at work, some sites are blocked

[sacred hull]

sucks that i have to revise otherwise i would play more

[craggy estuary]

huh

[undone steppe]

ill find it in a second

[kindred orchid]

I think the difference is probably more noticeable on semi-auto guns, but last night using the m1907 it wasn't too noticeable except for when I shot from hip fire and when I tried to shoot just enough bullets to kill the guy, which they'd still be alive for one more bullet.

[dense bone]

i just like that with new ttk i killed some shit shot campers

[proven quartz]

Ttk is a little faster than bf3 I believe

[dense bone]

some campers still wrecked me

but there were some that i could just hs and keep going

[kindred orchid]

Mmg and bipoded lmg are really strong in this change.

Especially if they're laying on their back and their head isn't as easily exposed.

[dense bone]

at least now they have to be a decent shot to drop you before you can react

before almost anyone could

[glossy locust]

http://symthic.com/bf1-ttk-btk-charts?scout=1&medic=1&assault=1&btk=1

ttk is virtually identical to bf1

[kindred orchid]

Yeah, although I still experienced the 1 frame deaths.

[dense bone]

like i thought

@kindred orchid yea i had that a couple of times too

bryj tag that guy

[kindred orchid]

Like I know they're shooting at me, but the game hasn't registered the damage for me and then I'm dead.

[dense bone]

yea thats the apparent ttd problem

[vast heart]

Increasing ttk is a way to say: we have no fucking idea why damage received stacks up so here, now it takes a mag dump to down a target so the target feels like it’s been shot by 4-5 bullets. GG

[glossy locust]

unpopular opinion bf1 had the best gunplay in any battlefield, had about the worst maps in the series

[kindred orchid]

In actuality you just feel 2 bullets instead of 1 and then you die.

[dense bone]

mag dump does not equal 1 more bullet to kill....

[vast heart]

1 bullet isn’t 1 bullet at all ranges and for every weapon though

[glossy locust]

the game has many features outside of TTK that make it harder to go on streaks and stay alive, no spotting

no regenerating health

[kindred orchid]

I think bf5 has the best gunplay. Bf1 had too much random spray to be accurate with any non sniper.

[proven quartz]

In other words shit players can succeed

[sinful steppe]

@glossy locust no spotting makes it easier to go on streaks

[proven quartz]

Can't

[kindred orchid]

Smgs were God tier because you just run around hip firing all day.

[glossy locust]

bf1's random spray was misunderstood by the community

it was based on engagement distance

[craggy estuary]

no it was random

[undone steppe]

i need to find the bf1 stats but basically without health regen and because of better recoil in this game its slightly higher ttk now than bf1

[vast heart]

They had already nerfed fighter planes into the shitter, now they’re changing the gunplay. Basically the only 2 reasons why I bought this game got fucked within the first month after launch. I’m at a loss for word

[craggy estuary]

random deviation

[proven quartz]

If you honestly liked bf1s gunplay you are either new to bf or something

[glossy locust]

so yes sniping with your smg or trying ot engage people at 300 yards

you're going to miss shots

[novel mason]

... What's wrong with fighters? I can still take down bombers just fine.

[craggy estuary]

no the bullets didnt go straight

[glossy locust]

bf1 played great

[proven quartz]

RBD shouldn't be in a bf game

[kindred orchid]

While I did enjoy bf1 operations mode, I prefer the gunplay we have now, even with these ttk changes.

[glossy locust]

the maps were just horrendous

[strong matrix]

bf was nice with the sliding mechanic after that patch

it kinda went poo

like too easy

[novel mason]

Sliding is still in, just a little less useful

[kindred orchid]

I loved the maps for operations.

[glossy locust]

only map worth remembering was st quentin's scar

[proven quartz]

Bf1 worst bf title

Hardline was better

[kindred orchid]

Conquest not so much.

[craggy estuary]

@proven quartz did you play bf2 modern combat?

[glossy locust]

also the one with like the sloped hill and forts in the middle?

[proven quartz]

Yup

[dense bone]

i didnt like bf1

[glossy locust]

not sure what it's called

[vast heart]

Fighters’ cas capabilities have been nealy nullified, especially in the G6

[dense bone]

had more hours in bfv BETA than i did bf1

[craggy estuary]

@proven quartz then you have a dumb opinion

[shy karma]

BF3 for infantry, BF2 for heli/planes

[proven quartz]

Why

Explain

[shy karma]

I miss BF3 CQ, amazing maps

[glossy locust]

BF3 had the worst gun balance in the series

m16a2

literally every player

[shy karma]

SPAS-12 bby

[strong matrix]

the comeback mechanic in operation in bf1 was dumbest shit ever

[novel mason]

I would argue fighters are really purely meant for dogfighting. The other two classes are more suited for CAS, considering they have bombs

[gray glade]

bf3's weapon balance was really bad yeah

[craggy estuary]

@proven quartz cuz bf2:mc is widely considered the worst bf made

[proven quartz]

Nah I rank bf1 higher for gunplay reasons

[gray glade]

even vehicle balance in bf3 was terrible

[winged basin]

BF1 was by far the worst.

[glossy locust]

bf1 had great gunplay and bad most everything else

[undone steppe]

bf2 mc was for consoles tho

[shy karma]

I just miss the CQ

[glossy locust]

tanks were fun

[proven quartz]

Bf2 MC was just bad because it was bad

[shy karma]

Ziba tower amazing map

[craggy estuary]

@undone steppe still a battlefield game

[vast heart]

I disagree. Bf109s and spitfires were used for cas all the time

[undone steppe]

yeah a dogshit one

[vast heart]

It’s just players with vaginas in their ass that don’t want to put effort into learning how to fly that cry and get shit nerfed into the ground

[proven quartz]

Pretty much

[vast heart]

They were fun before the patch, now they’re just meh

[strong matrix]

i dont fly planes but even before changes etc flying a plane in BF5 feels like flying some kite

[shy karma]

ToO mUcH pLaYeR ChUrN gUyS

[strong matrix]

doesnt feel at all like a plane

[glossy locust]

I wish they changed how vehicles worked I don't want to wait in the spanw menu to get a plane

[novel mason]

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about their historical use. I think if they had really any CAS utility, it'd make the other two air classes redundant

[strong matrix]

like in War Thunder for example

[glossy locust]

should just be a queue

[vast heart]

Nah. Fighters are a scalpel, bombers are sledgehammers

[undone steppe]

the planes were fine before they patched them just needed to nerf the ju

[glossy locust]

queue for a plane and then play infantry

help your team while you wait

[novel mason]

I'm 100% with you there. I would also like if when I clicked a vehicle from the deploy screen, it saved it for me so I could customize it/change the vehicle. @glossy locust

[glossy locust]

not sit in the spawn screen

[gray glade]

bfv is more arcady than war thunder

[vast heart]

Fighters are ‘I’m gonna pick this sniper or mg nest off’, bombers are ‘I’ll fuck this tank up and everyone that’s nearby’

[novel mason]

Feels so frustrating having three other people spam LMB on the spawn spot

[glossy locust]

right like that might take people out of the "immersion" to get taken off the field

but it's the best most fair system

[pastel dew]

Wouldn't that be a tick issue?

[glossy locust]

i hate waiting in spawn for vehicles

[vast heart]

Now fighters are only AA magnets and bombers take two days to rearm. Not that I cared about em since I despise the lack of skill needed to fly them

[novel mason]

That's fair. I use planes fairly scarcely, so I wouldn't be too great with specific feedback on them, but if you wrote something for feedback on the forums I think it'd be really appreciated. @vast heart

[glossy locust]

like you could even queue for multiple tank or plane whichever is first but the queue is the queue

[undone steppe]

the time to rearm them is ridiculous

[glossy locust]

once you get the vheilce you go back

[jovial forge]

Rearm time is bad

[glossy locust]

to the front of the queu

[jovial forge]

Queue for vehicles is bad in it's own way to

[vast heart]

Probably won’t matter. The pilots community is too small compared to all the players who are happy we can’t steamroll them in a plane.

[undone steppe]

thats another thing nobody asked to be changed. Everyone thought the planes were fine just that the JU needed a nerf

[jovial forge]

Bombers only did well when none deals with them or fighters were potatoes

[novel mason]

Maybe. I think the devs would recognize feedback from someone who's experienced with what they're talking about, especially since, like you said, the pilot community is pretty small.

[jovial forge]

Ju88 was the only one that was a issue with its spawn bombing

[delicate ermine]

YO

[vast heart]

Whenever I played against enemy bombers, they would almost always quit. I really wonder now, were bombers this broken or were the players too lazy to learn to counter them? 🤔

[delicate ermine]

CALM THE HELL DOWN

@proven quartz Dont talk smack about BF2 MC

[solid hinge]

Are SMGs better now?

[kindred orchid]

The biggest issue with bombers were that it was near impossible to even hurt them to the point where they'd be vulnerable by aa.

[novel mason]

I think that also comes back to the fact that not many people want to put in the time to learn how to dogfight (myself included), so bombers seemed harder to counter than they actually were

[solid hinge]

Like is the medic class actually worth using

Lol

[novel mason]

@solid hinge If you want to be a medic, then yes.

[kindred orchid]

You'd unload all of the aa till overheat and you'd do like 20% damage to them.

And people don't drag the towable aa/anti tank guns anywhere.

[vast heart]

You don’t need to know how to dogfight to hit a slow moving target the size of a barn. Worst case scenario, damage it to half health and ram it hard. Gives you the kill and denies the enemy of a large area denial tool

[glossy locust]

god vehicle queues would be so great

so easy they will never ad it

it's too obvious

you play while you wait for your vehicle

it's genious

[novel mason]

True. I just don't find endlessly chasing around a bomber fun, which is why I didn't want to learn for a good while. More recently I've been getting better, but it's pretty harsh at first

[glossy locust]

they should have a similar system for heros in battlefront

[novel mason]

Especially with those gnarly rear-turrets

That has the same issue with tanks almost always being at max capacity

[glossy locust]

like yes everyone wants to play hero fine the queue spans games

you are in queue and over teh course of games you get to play the hero probably every other game

rather than one douche getting it every time

[solid hinge]

@novel mason No, if you want to have a realistic chance against other classes' guns.

[novel mason]

I've been playing fine with them still. Mainly using Sten/MP34 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solid hinge]

Did the Dec 4th Sten buff make a difference at all?

[sinful steppe]

the Sten is a laser with the right specs, to bad it shoots water at 500rpm

[novel mason]

I didn't personally notice a difference

[sinful steppe]

500 drops per minute i should say

[novel mason]

I mean, it's not too bad so long as you're within 40m

[undone steppe]

ya know what they need to add? Loadouts for each class

[sinful steppe]

tommy gun was a beast before the ttk change, should be even better now since rpm is everything

[novel mason]

Also cosmetic presets please

[undone steppe]

that too

even if its 3 like bf1 that would be fine

[sinful steppe]

the ttk change pretty much gave high rpm weapons more range, since you have more time to get closer without dying

[novel mason]

https://pastebin.com/ZmEZ4zrZ

I made this wish list a while ago but I don't know exactly where to put it

Ooo, David Sirland is back from vacation today

[gray glade]

seems like they gave level 50 players just a general ammount of CC right?

[novel mason]

Kinda weird he came back just before Christmas but alright

[gray glade]

i got 10k

[novel mason]

I mean at the EoR

Still not 100% on exactly how you earn CC there

[crisp forge]

aparently yes, I hope to see a thicc coin amount tonight when i play

[novel mason]

Lol, poor David.

"Welcome back. Hope the holiday refilled the batteries, i think you are going to need it. :)"

"It's all good. I was expecting this."

Harsh

[rose pilot]

I'll have two number nines, a number 9 large

[solid hinge]

a number 6

[rose pilot]

with extra dip

[novel mason]

and

[solid hinge]

tanks traps seem pretty undestructable

[crisp forge]

were tanks/planes machine guns affected by ttk you guys know?

[novel mason]

If they were, they weren't mentioned anywhere in the notes

[sacred hull]

god this game is officially dead

revert this ttk

please

all guns are fucking useless

only m1907 and stg are safe

[gray glade]

way to overreact

[sacred hull]

lol

more like way to fanboy

[sinful steppe]

@sacred hull tommy gun, have fun

[dense bone]

its been like this

[sacred hull]

yeah but i dont use the tommy gun only dude

[carmine eagle]

Yis

[dense bone]

overreacting with calling everyone who doesnt fully agree a shill or fanboy

[sacred hull]

why do you suck up to these stupid decisions

lol

its people like you that force women in to ww2 games lmao

[novel mason]

Oh, you're one of those people

[dense bone]

people that dont care?

[sacred hull]

ohhhh

so now you dont care

ttk is awful

[wary mason]

literally this happened

[dense bone]

when have i cared?

[sacred hull]

all semi autos are useless

[dense bone]

i did good with semi

got most kills, almost 3 kdr, and stop score..

[sacred hull]

ive done nothing but support this game

but this new ttk

dice wtf are you thinking

[pure remnant]

there is someone capable of using jb-2 or v-1 rocket? because im probably going to kill my self i don't complete the last mission of this tides of war week

[novel mason]

When you have enough points just wait & dedicate your lives to finding a group of enemies and calling it on them

[crisp forge]

@wary mason people are very stressed these days

[worthy verge]

BFV: Players can kick opposite team players from the game.

https://gfycat.com/sillymeaslyanemoneshrimp

[pure remnant]

@novel mason it's very hard to reach 41000 points alone... so i guess ill just stick a knife in my throat bye guys

[solid hinge]

wtf my tides of war assignment is bugged

[novel mason]

Do you not have any randoms join your squad @pure remnant ?

I play solo and get it every other game. Just gotta make sure you get SL through requesting orders

[pure remnant]

in 5 games only 2 players joined

[novel mason]

:(

Maybe try joining a more full one

@solid hinge Try resetting your game/origin/pc

or game/console

[solid hinge]

already tried that

guess i gonna have to do it all over again

[novel mason]

:(

[solid hinge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[novel mason]

Maybe if you're lucky they'll hotfix it

Or if you're unlucky they'll hotfix it just after it ends like the snowman

[snow crater]

#notmyttk

[solid hinge]

nah, i still have a whole week

#goandfuckyourselfwiththatspam

[sinful steppe]

@pure remnant find a squad in the Looking for players section?

[dense bone]

@wary mason i like that you blurred out my name and image but im the only giant orange icon so its obvious its me xD

[novel mason]

Just doxxed yourself

[dense bone]

oh no

[novel mason]

nothing personnel kid, but you're done

[dense bone]

i just committed social suicide

[solid hinge]

Rick and morty is for intellectuals

Change my mind

[novel mason]

You're obviously above the average person

[dense bone]

never watched rick and morty

[pseudo saffron]

@wary mason move to general

[wary mason]

!clean user 128557464537792512 5

[snow crater]

m1a1 is my fav gun

[wary mason]

[snow crater]

31 round mag op

[dense bone]

i use right tree for m1a1

[snow crater]

forgot which tree i use

but extended mag is opasf

[trail flame]

extended mag M1A1 or bust

[dense bone]

only a couple of times ive ran into mag problems with 16 bullets

[snow crater]

with ext mag you can just spam

so hard

and its so good

[novel mason]

The choice between high ROF or high magazine size is so difficult :(

[dense bone]

high ROF imo

faster ttk

[snow crater]

i prefer ext mag

[sinful steppe]

@dense bone allways

[snow crater]

but its personal choice

[novel mason]

But what if I can't aim

[dense bone]

mag size only better if youre consistently trying to kill multiple people in a row

or if youre a bad shot and need more bullets

[snow crater]

as assault i dont fight fair battles its always me vs multiple people most the time

[sinful steppe]

@snow crater sounds like you need a squad

[novel mason]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/ThatsPrettyGoood/overview

I legit have less than 22 % accuracy with the weapon I use most :(

[snow crater]

i only have 2 friends that have the game

[dense bone]

22% accuracy for semis and autos is pretty solid

[snow crater]

and if they don't add wWnston Churcill's speech i will be pissed

[dense bone]

id say under 20% is where you get average to below average

above 30% is god mode

[remote ledge]

Dice change something in the transport vehicles?

[novel mason]

Yes, I do think of myself as above the average person

Like what @remote ledge ?

[remote ledge]

like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twrgfnnOi5s&feature=youtu.be