Aim for the head?
#battlefield-legacy-titles
median raven
viscid crater
I'll get right on that boss.
latent cairn
Yag I want my dentist to get shot by a lion
viscid crater
GREAT!
Exactly what we needed
Next people will be saying it's a high skill weapon
swift condor
Basically
solid hinge
They should’ve tested the ttk changes but they didn’t lol
Or they should have a cte again
viscid crater
Testing HA
median raven
They're testing them now what are you talking about?
viscid crater
That's not how testing works chief
swift condor
Exactly
median raven
Have you not contributed to the test? Get yourself in game now
solid hinge
Besides drunkz
steel fjord
cte won't have the same type of players
solid hinge
It shouldn’t go into live game
glad lily
Why not give their new ttk a separate playlist like they did with conquest core
solid hinge
Should be on a separate build hence the CTE
undone steppe
it shouldnt replace all the gamemodes either
steel fjord
it does when its a topic as important as this one
viscid crater
@glad lily That's too smart pal
solid hinge
Yeah forcing me to play one game mode
median raven
Sarcasm is sarcasm
solid hinge
A game mode I don’t even like in battlefield 5
viscid crater
CTE was the only way to go with this. Yet, Dice knows best.
Guess they got that from the "None-Vocal" community too
steel fjord
because a very large part of the players base won't bother to go to the test play list
solid hinge
Many other games have a separate build to test changes
steel fjord
and it turns out great 
viscid crater
It does????
placid quarry
Has the TTK been increased or reduced? Haven't played in two weeks
solid hinge
It’s weird battlefield 5 doesn’t
devout edge
So better release the change that completely breaks the balance to everyone than have it tested by only a few people.
glad lily
Bob do something
viscid crater
@placid quarry increased
placid quarry
eww
icy sluice
@placid quarry It kills slower
grave loom
@glad lily OW is dead
latent cairn
Vatsug check general please
viscid crater
LOL
placid quarry
it felt slow already
glad lily
@grave loom game yes, but my rule34 folder says otherwise
placid quarry
What about it @latent cairn
grave loom
O shit true
swift condor
It's WW3 Bois
solid hinge
I don’t think it’s battlefield 1 bad but boy do I feel like a bullet sponge
latent cairn
@placid quarry was a question about the rules 😛
swift condor
Us v DICE
viscid crater
@placid quarry Game is dead, they've made 90% of guns useless lol. Hope you like Nerf Gun Simulator.
placid quarry
Haha, no thanks, I'll stick to BF1, 2 and 4 if I want battlefield
solid hinge
I mean this new update kills any enthusiasm I have for battlefield 5
viscid crater
@placid quarry You don't want to torture yourself?
be unable to one shot planes with rockets
hmm
nocturne canyon
Am i the only one who cant track the tides of war challenges?
lapis hare
I can't either
nocturne canyon
DICE please
lusty veldt
if they dont turn back the values and just fix the damn netcode, BF will be a dead gameseries and potentially DICE is dead to me
bleak anvil
I havent played since the TTK changes. Are they really bad? Any word on a revert?
novel mason
I can. Just another borked update :/
glad lily
Panzerfaust tweak they did also stopped it from blowing up buildings and fortifications. If only they tested things 
lusty veldt
its horrible and frustrating
solid hinge
Really bad yes @lusty veldt
undone steppe
yea @glad lily cant destroy shit with rockets now
nocturne canyon
Just use the PIAT
viscid crater
Piat still can't one shot planes
narrow tide
what is dice even thinking
bleak anvil
Rockets were a bit op vs tanks though. I always felt violated.
viscid crater
Nothing can 👏
lusty veldt
DICE isnt thinking, thats whats happening
viscid crater
I don't even think tanks can loooool
narrow tide
ah i see
nocturne canyon
piat can oneshot everything
lusty veldt
their head is in their bums or something
viscid crater
Although I don't tank
narrow tide
probly
viscid crater
just what I heard
solid hinge
Again this new update kills any enthusiasm I have for battlefield 5
bleak anvil
It's a bit funny that Battlefront 2 is doing a 180 and.. so is BFV
undone steppe
tanks can
bleak anvil
from bad to good and good to bad
lusty veldt
they fucking polled it weeks back and the community wanted this TTK. And now they still change it ? wtf man
im quite annoyed
narrow tide
@bleak anvil thats a 360
solid hinge
I wonder the same thing
glad lily
Does piat have same rocket velocity and sights cause I'm too lazy to learn the distances for longshots again
solid hinge
No one wanted this
bleak anvil
no, i meant, battlefront 2 went from bad to good and bfv went from good to bad
narrow tide
oh lol
undone steppe
no PIAT is a PITA at first
bleak anvil
happy i paid the 7 bucks for it on black friday
swift condor
@glad lily if they are far away then aim slightly above their head
glad lily
@undone steppe you are raider, legendary
lusty veldt
instead of the fucking netcode
narrow tide
yes timmy, F*CKING PLAY THE DAMN GAME
lapis hare
timmy play the game or i'll clock you in the mouth
bleak anvil
Guess ill put BFV on the backburner until this is resolved. Granted, i almost always play support and I hear MMGs are a bit better now, lol
rose pilot
In all fairness. I don't mind the new TTK, as long as the Medic weapons are buffed.
lusty veldt
DICE please pull your head out of your arse and listen to the actual community. Thanks
novel mason
Bayonet > Anything
lapis hare
sadly it just seems the smgs got dunked on even further
swift condor
Impact grenades are still a thing.....
narrow tide
wait, is the new helmet from the overture chapter unlockable already?\
lapis hare
yea
novel mason
Yep
lusty veldt
assault rifles feel like crap now, same as smgs and lmgs
narrow tide
wow
nocturne canyon
You can still play with the old TTK
steel fjord
how dare you say that @rose pilot ?! you absolute shill
bleak anvil
Shit, I want Rising Storm on a battlefield scale.. that's it.
undone steppe
semi autos are shit too
lapis hare
again, all other classes have 2 weapon classes
glad lily
Can I put bayonet on fighter planes and ram bombers?
lusty veldt
yea lets split the community even more
lapis hare
show some love to the medic 
viscid crater
Semi Autos are dog shite now
rose pilot
but seriously, if you really want things to be "fixed", let's all be constructive about it at least. Writing a very detailed and constructive forum post is the best one can do 🙂
lusty veldt
lets remove the Premier stuff, but split the community between 2 TTK values
great job dice
well done
solid hinge
Fuck causal players anyways the core fans matter
glad lily
Gewehr 1 5 is new meta
solid hinge
Casual players don’t matter
swift condor
we won't have premium so we can keep all the players connected
bleak anvil
I read that the spotting on kill was removed, so that's nice.
narrow tide
is it?
novel mason
Yup
steel fjord
he said constructive
lapis hare
just seems like casual players are a small fraction of the playerbase
novel mason
Same with squads auto-locking as of today
lapis hare
yet its apparently them that gets all the focus
undone steppe
i think thats probably why a lot of people were getting killed alot too @bleak anvil
rose pilot
Well if you think you have something that you can add, then why not do it then?
solid hinge
@rose pilot people were very constructive about it before the change and in polls and since they went through with it we can be mad
bleak anvil
yea, people were saying that they had the time of their lives when spotting on kill was removed, then a day later the ttk was changed and it sucks again.
undone steppe
yep
steel fjord
i had the time of my live after the ttk change
viscid crater
Guess it was because you're able to absorb damage now?
lusty veldt
DICE is dead to me if they keep pulling shit like this
viscid crater
No need to position well anymore. Have a pocket medic and ez stomp the other team
top gameplay that
bleak anvil
ill have to hop on and try it but I honestly liked the faster TTK. Especially with the fact that ammo is supposed to be sparse/
swift condor
Domination with a squad of medics
lusty veldt
why wont dice do another poll and see how annoyed the playerbase is black on white?
steel fjord
because i am able to react to the guy dumping his entire mag and missing 70% of his bullets
undone steppe
they need to address foot steps too
viscid crater
@steel fjord so he hit 30%, should still kill you 
steel fjord
position argument is one of the most ridiculous ones
solid hinge
I’m actually shocked to say this but cod>battlefield in 2018
bleak anvil
i can hear enemy footsteps pretty well. Could be louder though
steel fjord
this sint siege or CSGO
dim gazelle
Wot
swift condor
No
solid hinge
Never thought I say this surprisingly
narrow tide
no stop
viscid crater
Haven't played the new cod lol.
swift condor
Stop that
narrow tide
stop
dim gazelle
Cs go good Yaaa
narrow tide
now
steel fjord
position is the same now
lusty veldt
FUCK THE TTK
steel fjord
one more bullet doesnt make you a tank
glad lily
Lets just all go play minecraft
lusty veldt
filp ur losing this argument
steel fjord
people missing shots should not be rewarded a kill
dim gazelle
Ups
dim gazelle
Now is good
jovial forge
Basically the new ttk allows a little more cheese and reaction time for players who should rightfully be back at the deploy menu 😐
latent cairn
@glad lily TTK is more balanced there 
viscid crater
@dim gazelle 👌
undone steppe
one more bullet makes half the weapons undesirable
orchid iris
@Flip
viscid crater
@jovial forge SpongeField V
orchid iris
you aren't part of the circle jerk, therefore you are 'losing'
swift condor
Got depressed at BFV, went to BF4 then cried myself to sleep
dim gazelle
Why shouod i play mp40 when suomi kills much faster?
dim gazelle
Missions haha
unique thunder
what is the player count of BF4 like on PS4?
azure ferry
if this was the original ttk, and then they lowered it - everyone would be bitching it was too quick
bunch of dorks overreacting
viscid crater
I feel like I'm being punked tbh
lusty veldt
why would you play bf5 at all when the whole game is pure frustration
jovial forge
Also we have to consider some weapons like the STG were tweaked seperately with ttk 1.0. It like a few others are effectively worse
viscid crater
this ain't it chief
lusty veldt
dude i want a refund
glad lily
But my medic looks fly with cosmetics
lusty veldt
fuck this shitty behaviour
swift condor
@unique thunder probably next to 0
viscid crater
@jovial forge STG is dog shit right now lol
viscid crater
I cried
lusty veldt
all assault rifles are shit now
undone steppe
bf4 is alive and well on pc
viscid crater
M1A1 is dead 😦
lusty veldt
shotguns and snipers meta 😃
swift condor
All weapons are shit
orchid iris
This is why DICE doesnt listen to the community, because the vocal ones are all a bunch of over reacting circle jerking incels
dim gazelle
Mmg and sniper meta
viscid crater
BF4 is a glorified BF3 tbh
swift condor
Change my mind
viscid crater
@swift condor No need. It's true
jovial forge
I like that Assault can't dominate at all ranges with semi autos. Thats the only fair thing that came out of this
solid hinge
Dice is delusional
swift condor
BF4 could have been a masterpiece
lusty veldt
@orchid iris its called a passion for the franchise
dim gazelle
Last round there were jist 2-3 non recons/ mmgs on each team i mean wtf
viscid crater
Yas
lusty veldt
DICE has no clue how much the core community likes the franchise and are just ruining it
swift condor
Yes Putin
solid hinge
the semiauto guns on assault should be in the recon
@orchid iris we’re the core fans where causals will leave and not care
dim gazelle
Scd of all sign my petition
jovial forge
trying to appease the crowd that would leave the game regardless ain't it chief
viscid crater
Casuals won't play across the games cycle.
solid hinge
fr
viscid crater
They'll jump onto the next thing as soon as it pops up
solid hinge
i just want BF3 back 
lusty veldt
YOU SHOULD TRY AND GROW THE CORE COMMUNITY THAT WILL STAY FOR YEARS AND YEARS. NOT GENERIC TIMMY THAT BUYS A GAME ONCE IN A WHILE
swift condor
I remember when BF1 was hard to get into because of the change in weapons
viscid crater
BF3 was the shit
solid hinge
ikr
viscid crater
I miss it
swift condor
And then guns like the trench and MP18 became the norm for everyone
solid hinge
same dude
glad lily
Give semiautomatics to recon, take self loaders and gib them to medics, take shotguns and gib them to assault. There I fixed your classes
undone steppe
bad company 2 was the shit
jovial forge
Yall see how fast CoD went from the number 2 spot on Twitch to roughly same area BFV is.
solid hinge
I miss when battlefield was good
jovial forge
?
orchid iris
Think about this, you guys bitch about paying for premium content, so now they have to rely on cosmetics for funding things. Hardcore players are NOT paying for the content becuase they can grind it all based on their time in game and skill levle. The ones who will PAY for cosmetics and content are the casuals you hate. You have left them no choice but to cater to them for their money to support the game. You all are just too fucking retarded to know what youa re doing to the franchise you 'love' by all your awsome suggestions.
viscid crater
@glad lily That sounds horrible
solid hinge
shotguns to assault
swift condor
Please don't
steel fjord
the core community that will stay for years? the same core community that says the want refunds, won't play the game anymore, insults Devs and all sort of nonsense because a test is being performed? sure.
swift condor
Trench shotgun V2 again
viscid crater
@steel fjord The same core community that is tired of being fucked over yes
jovial forge
BF1 medics were infinite regen scouts
solid hinge
dude
dense bone
m1a1 is dead? i just stomped with that gun on panzer last night...
solid hinge
they sloud grab BF3 make new textures and sell it again
instant buy
@steel fjord should’ve been play tested extensively or went on cte not live build
viscid crater
@dense bone Alright big man
swift condor
Yes @solid hinge
solid hinge
There’s no reasoning with nyphon
steel fjord
a decision of this magnitude requires extremely accurate data from ALL players. thats why its on live
dense bone
its what happened
golden hatch
For me, the problem isnt that the new TTK makes it harder, its just less enjoyable to play for me
viscid crater
@solid hinge I kno lol
dense bone
i went like 40-15 in panzer with m1a1
median raven
Old or new TTK I still am one of the best players to ever play this game
dense bone
im not
sinful steppe
@median raven i like that
glad lily
Nyphon is casual
dense bone
im above average though
viscid crater
LOL
jovial forge
Btw I doubt ayone here hates casuals, what most probably hate is casua; waltzing in moaning about how they got wrecked trying to play it like CoD and not playing weapons in they effective areas
swift condor
I can image that DICE sits in a war room debating on these changes
golden hatch
Maybe in NA 😂
dense bone
not even close to semi
viscid crater
Maybe on LAN with yourself :))
solid hinge
ratburner helmet is just a budget version of lord tachanka, change my mind
jovial forge
and waint everythign nerfed so that can zerg ecverything
swift condor
True
glad lily
@solid hinge [T]7
jovial forge
yes
solid hinge
My enthusiasm for battlefield 5 has been killed with the new update
dense bone
its funny you guys say you cant reason with me, but im just saying the truth and you guys are being pricks about it
jovial forge
Tachanka's grandfather
median raven
I am top 10 PC and Top 1 console
swift condor
But where is Ze flamethrower
viscid crater
"truth"
solid hinge
Dice is fucking delusional
viscid crater
very subjective
dim gazelle
Ratburner + mg42 = delete ur life pls
brittle cargo
ur an orange
viscid crater
Alright then champ. Could be playing against bots
brittle cargo
oranges are known liars
dense bone
lol yes, im being unreasonable
brittle cargo
orange man bad
dense bone
theyre apparently better than you?
dim gazelle
Tbh i hate oranges
viscid crater
grammar please papa
dense bone
see, youre already calling me papa
dim gazelle
When im esting bonbons i eat everythinh except orange bpnbons
orchid iris
Also wreck shit all day no problem because I'm not a fucking noob who can only get kills by luck. Fun fact, the more shots required to kill someone, the lower chance someone can statistically luck kill you with spraying
muh casuals
steel fjord
you have been branded a fanboy. all of your opinions are automatically disregarded from now on
viscid crater
golden hatch
I still get top3 basically every game but I just dont enjoy playing when i have to hit people 27 times if theyre further than 5 meters away
It bores me
undone steppe
id go play halo if i wanted more shots to kill
solid hinge
The more shots required to kill someone, the more it turns into a bullet sponge fest
median raven
Well said @golden hatch
glad lily
9 shots to kill with SMG btw, 20 bullets in a mag btw
viscid crater
First see should be rewarded?????
dense bone
it is
solid hinge
The more time to kill someone, the more time to play mindless aggression and have worse positioning
golden hatch
Not really
viscid crater
it really isn't
dense bone
if you are both the same skill level, you see them first you should win
steel fjord
First see is rewarded if you can land your shots
dense bone
if you are a shit shot yea, you could lose
sinful steppe
isnt there a new conquest mode with the old ttk? ill just play that
dense bone
because youre a shit shot
viscid crater
Winning one gun fight doesn't matter
golden hatch
I can just run around like a noob now, not think about my positioning whatsoever and I still kill people who shoot me from a better position because my aim is better
I dont deserve those kills
viscid crater
There's other people to deal with
golden hatch
But I get them even more now
icy sluice
I still find it weird how I am performing better with this TTK with SMGs.
orchid iris
1 more shot isn't turning everyone into a bullet sponge, but if you knew anything about exponential growth you'd understand the huge impact 1 extra bullet can have on people being able to randomly bs you with spraying
solid hinge
well, appearently they are trying to fix the ttd problem now so we'll have to see how that works out
golden hatch
SMGs are alright up close
solid hinge
taking one shot more from a semi is actually huge
median raven
But a KE7 is better
golden hatch
basically any gun with high RPM and a big mag is better now
solid hinge
The more time it takes to kill someone, the more times I’ll be facing people purposefully bunching up like idiots so it’d make it harder to take out multiple targets
icy sluice
Because of this new ttk, my strategy of Flee&Charge/Surround works wonders
undone steppe
@solid hinge exactly
solid hinge
Every smg is trash now,
@golden hatch time to go full tachanka now
6 shots to kill at close range is insanity
golden hatch
Ive had a lot of ''372 enemy hit'' and 0 kill moments since the new TTK. When I run into groups of people
dim gazelle
Got killed by a ke7 in close quarted with my tommy gun
golden hatch
I switch too quickly from targets, damage them all for 90 and run out of ammo
and I die
dim gazelle
I cant believe how he did this
golden hatch
Its just silly
dim gazelle
Yep
median raven
They're looking into an issue with the starting weapons also
dim gazelle
Have the same problem
swift condor
Get out
solid hinge
Even Westie isn’t shilling
steel fjord
you can easily take out several enemies. aim for the head
cedar jay
the new ttk is more arcade and newbie in my opinion
undone steppe
isnt westie payed by ea too?
golden hatch
Its a lot harder now tbh
winged basin
Westie is a turd
golden hatch
Just because I still dominate games doesnt mean new TTK is any good lol
I dont even see how this is better for casuals either?
U die just as fast
but its harder to kill people
jovial forge
I can still play well but ttk was unneeded
viscid crater
^^^
golden hatch
Its just lose/lose lol
solid hinge
also the best part of this was the ttd is still bad
dense bone
all i hear from people is "i dont like high ttk because im a bad shot, i like flanking and getting easy kills, if i flank i should get at least 3 kills, i shouldnt have to aim at head to do good"
viscid crater
the decision making doesn;t make sense.
golden hatch
If this wouldve totally fixed TTD, then I would be ok with it
solid hinge
You make something worse and you don’t even try to fix the issue
viscid crater
@dense bone Not when you run out of bullets chief. Low magazine sizes and all/
orchid iris
@golden hatch I think they really need to add in how you died into the death scene, showing you the damage you took from each player. I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of instant deaths are that they were hit by a sniper rifle from one player, and an smg from another at same time, and the SMG was the finishing blow
dense bone
not when youre a good shot you dont worry about it
jovial forge
Well if some flanks a squad of potatoes and has their shots on point, they should be rewarded
cedar jay
the ttk was gold the ttd not why they changed it?
dense bone
or you get a team to give you ammo
orchid iris
right now, not having any feedback, everyoen assumes the weapon that kills them in the kill feed was the only thing hitting them
viscid crater
Being a good shot gives you more bullets hmmmmmm
dense bone
or go support
steel fjord
remember when people said players were bad because they couldn't adapt to the old TTK when BFV was released? i wonder what could be said under the current events 
golden hatch
@orchid iris true, but there really is an issue with, for example, then STEN suddenly hitting you 6 times in 0,1 sec and u die
Even though the guy was shooting for 2 sec
dense bone
being a good shot reserves bullets
viscid crater
why tf would I go support. Being forced into using a class xD
dense bone
this isnt hard
orchid iris
how do you kow you were hit 6 times by a sten and not once or twice, along with shots from another enemy?
viscid crater
Nyphon you're barmy mate.
solid hinge
steal weapons off of dead bodies
dense bone
no one is forcing
jovial forge
@steel fjord it's still bad even when they do good
orchid iris
you are assuming
dense bone
it mitigates
dense bone
you didnt lose enthusiasm to cry about it
golden hatch
@orchid iris nope, there are plenty of videos where people clearly arent getting hit by anyone else
solid hinge
Dice doesn’t know what they’re doing
dense bone
reserve ammo, land headshots consistently
viscid crater
I guess everyone complaining is wrong right Nyphon?
solid hinge
they released a battlefield 5?!
dense bone
not saying that
dim gazelle
I dont even have motivation to complete missions in bf v rn
median raven
Because I have gameplay footage in closed areas where I can prove 100% it was a 1v1 situation @orchid iris
dense bone
but you guys are just crying with no feedback
viscid crater
dense bone
just saying dice is crap
solid hinge
@solid hinge nope, its still in the beta
dense bone
and everyone who does say that is a shill
viscid crater
Been plenty of feedback Chief
solid hinge
They’re horseshit
well the joke was that it's called BFV, but this got a kick out of me
dense bone
thats feedback?
brittle cargo
why is orange man so condescending
not everyone will agree with you and not everyone will be able to consistently land headshots
pls stop orange man it not cool
dense bone
some shit feedback
median raven
DICE is crap with the whole launch
golden hatch
Feedback is that it isnt enjoyable to play with. Takes too long to kill people and the TTD issues aren't fixed whatsoever.
What more feedback do you want?
jovial forge
Why should players be forced to go for headshots when it's more normal for body shots where recoil do the rest
undone steppe
^
viscid crater
Are you the feedback police Nyphon?
cedar jay
DICE LA is not crap
tropic nest
Shouldn’t this chat be censored like in BfV since it’s the official battlefield discord?
solid hinge
There were even polls and shit where people votes the ttk was fine
golden hatch
I still topfrag and shit, i still kill people, theres no problem for me, but i just dont ENJOY the game like this
thin widget
Dice LA Saved bf4 from flopping
dense bone
so many people to reply to
median raven
Actually a third party saved bf4
quaint pollen
takes too long to kill people + get killed in one frame = DICE answering the TTD requests
swift condor
@tropic nest this isn't an official BF discord
undone steppe
i honestly think dice la is going to hop in and help fix bfv
solid hinge
Dice Sweden is gonna probably let battlefield 5 burn and dice la will need to save this game
orchid iris
@median raven you have a clip? The main one I saw is the guy on hamada, but you can clearly see like 4 enemies coming over the mountain towards him
dense bone
feedback other than new ttk sucks, go back is common
thin widget
Look how long it took dice la to fix bf4
solid hinge
We need dice la
sinful steppe
Its not Dice whos to blame for this, its EA trying to drag the noobs back for christmas
dense bone
its mostly just a moaning circle jerk
solid hinge
BF4 didn't flop, it sold well at launch, people didn't expect it be broken is all
Not Sweden
viscid crater
Go back is the solution
tropic nest
Dice la arent some miraculous saviors, they’re all sjws like the ones in Sweden
dim gazelle
Lets ddos ea
steel fjord
Dice LA made the magic nades a thing in BF1. no thanks
viscid crater
if it ain't broke
golden hatch
@dense bone We cant all be as good as you mate
viscid crater
sinful steppe
Dice is just doing as told, cuz they have to
dense bone
im not that good man
jovial forge
@dense bone it's not when they ask for feedback
median raven
A third party fixed bf4 because DICE couldn't fix their own game
golden hatch
Mustve earned millions playing FPS games with that NA skill of yours
viscid crater
@golden hatch Careful he has god aim
dim gazelle
Ea is shit
median raven
EA are publishers
solid hinge
Dice la arent some miraculous saviors, they’re all sjws like the ones in Sweden
😂
viscid crater
ffs
median raven
A car salesman doesn't tell a mechanic how to fix a car
dim gazelle
I think ppl from ea tell thdm what to do
tropic nest
@solid hinge you know it’s true
dense bone
crying about it in discord does nothing, find where dice takes criticism the most and complain there, they have 2 modes open for feedback,
solid hinge
well yeah, they're left leaning
swift condor
Get rid of EA?
tropic nest
Half of dice LA is from Sweden
solid hinge
almost everyone who works at EA is very left leaning
solid hinge
hell, most of the industry is
solid hinge
so why are you annoyed by it
tropic nest
Not the audience 😉
dense bone
still doesnt negate that crying here does anything
golden hatch
@dense bone Already told Florian what I thought of it, together with some former BF pro players who fully agree
tropic nest
Hence BfV flopping sales
golden hatch
Not much else we can do
tropic nest
Can I get a rundown on bognadoffs?
tropic nest
It is
viscid crater
Maybe they check in here every once in a while
dense bone
the same people saying the same complaints as yesterday are just spamming the chat with the same crap
median raven
F2p BFV ready for battle royale! Thanks to all people who pre ordered we don't need you anymore
dense bone
id like to actually talk about the game
craggy snow
They aren't that bothered about TTK because 90% of players are trash level FPS players.
viscid crater
That's what we're doing @dense bone
dense bone
other than its shit, dice is shit, youre a shill for not caring
cedar jay
@tropic nest i meant dice sweden im sorry
craggy snow
It's not a big deal because battlefield is just farming noobers
viscid crater
That's exactly what a shill would say
dense bone
@viscid crater dont try to act like this is anything outside the same circle jerk its been since yesterday
viscid crater
@dense bone Does it matter?
tropic nest
Yesterday? Try launch
viscid crater
It's a bf5 discussion?
golden hatch
People arent liking the new TTK, what more can they say?
dense bone
king, im talking about the ttk change
viscid crater
That's what we're doing
undone steppe
well at least they are addressing the netcode now
golden hatch
Just becuase you dont agree doesnt mean their complaints arent valid
tropic nest
Look everyone, let’s all go back to bf4 so the servers aren’t dead anymore 
dense bone
@golden hatch they dont have more to say, so why are they saying it every 10 minutes like its new?
golden hatch
What else is there to say?
craggy snow
BF4 is a lock on fest. BF3 is king
dense bone
exactly nothing, so why keep repeating
lyric abyss
People acting like they can't go and play on the original TTK servers if they wanted
golden hatch
It isnt enjoyable to play with the new TTK, people agree on that it seems
dense bone
holly shit can you guys comprehend english?
solid hinge
I’m hoping battlefield 5 flops hard too so dice can stop catering to causals
tropic nest
What would you like to discuss that’s new and hasn’t been rehashed about BfV @dense bone
viscid crater
@undone steppe The test went on for 30 minutes. They've probably found something since it was so short
lapis hare
me no speak americano
median raven
@dense bone Just a follow up on our discussion yesterday, do you still think the game has not suffered a premature death? Do you still think the gameplay is great and functional as intended?
solid hinge
Hence why battlefield 1 died after launch
viscid crater
LOL
golden hatch
You all don't know what ''dead game'' means unless you've tried playing Battalion 1944 competitively
craggy snow
Battlefield needs casuals to fill servers.
undone steppe
@viscid crater im hoping so
dense bone
what guns are good after ttk? hows the new map? how could they tweak the game to make new ttk good if they dont listen and decide to keep it?
dim gazelle
Orange liles new ttk because he wants to work for dice
tropic nest
All that’s been discussed already
golden hatch
I dont enjoy any gun with the new TTK
sinful steppe
@craggy snow and we need them to be bad at the old ttk so we can doink them
tropic nest
A lot more than TTK bitching
craggy snow
Best gun is valentine case shell.
golden hatch
New map is great, I like it
solid hinge
@gray badger casuals only will play the game for like a week then leave
craggy snow
Fastest TTK
dense bone
sorry king, but i havent seen any of that
swift condor
Remember that competitive thing BF1 brought out?
viscid crater
Haven't played the new map. Don't like Conquest lol
tropic nest
I heard the game is 60% off already
dense bone
and have seen A SHIT LOAD OF TTK BITCHING
viscid crater
Are you the content police Nyphon?
median raven
I seen it 70% off at GameStop
lapis hare
content cop
viscid crater
We can talk about what we like
solid hinge
😂
dense bone
i mean, its just sad this is what you guys are spending your time on and cause for so much concern
craggy snow
Battlefield is a casual shooter. It's never going to be a comp game
swift condor
They tried @solid hinge
solid hinge
who said that bf1 was competitive? i have my shotgun ready
proper sundial
How about we all be glad we aren’t fall out 76 right now and play the damn game lol
snow crater
can i add specilizations for planes ingame
tropic nest
they aren’t kidding $29
median raven
Lmaoooo
viscid crater
@dense bone Sad that we voice our opinions over something we care about?
snow crater
or in between matches
tropic nest
Prenowned $55 lawl
dense bone
bfv was 30 bucks 1 week after launch
solid hinge
LMAO
cedar jay
thats sad
tropic nest
Shows how progressive ea is not only with their characters but their pricing 😉
solid hinge
Battlefield 5 sadly will be dead
sinful steppe
@snow crater should be a customize option on the lower left side in the deploy menu, in game
viscid crater
@tropic nest yawn
solid hinge
Not kidding
craggy snow
It's just stupid to spend so much time talking about fine tuning balance on an ez game
dense bone
and again @viscid crater youre twisting your circle jerk bitching into something more innnocent
undone steppe
people are upset with the ttk thats why theyre complaining
snow crater
fore plabes
viscid crater
@dense bone Can we not talk about what we want/
snow crater
planes
viscid crater
?
solid hinge
Guys let’s just let battlefield 5 fail
tropic nest
Don’t forget the historical inaccuracies and forced sjw dicersityyes @undone steppe
median raven
I hope it does
sinful steppe
@snow crater dont know about planes, its pretty small and hidden for guns atleast
dense bone
you can, but dont act like it isnt circle jerk bitching and that you are doing anything constructive other than filling chat with the same commments over and over
tropic nest
It already failed
median raven
I sincerely hope BFV does fail
solid hinge
ppl here bitching about the ttk, but what about the droid attack on the wookies?
sage horizon
Heck, I'd love to be able to complain about TTK/TTD, but I can't even get past the damn blank/black screen whenever games try to load
viscid crater
The new TTK is shit, and we should talk about it as much as possible. Being silent never does any good
jovial forge
You don't fix what doesn't need fixing. BFV's has hard the worst marketing in BF history. Ripping its roots to appease those that aren't even here or leaving it only hurts it more
median raven
My fault for pre ordering
tropic nest
They’re trying to prop up sales so they can trick investors when they announce sales numbers
lapis hare
execute order 66 @solid hinge
dense bone
should never pre order, especially from EA
solid hinge
I stuck with them with the controversy and the beta but now they want to make a change that goes against what the core fans want, fucking dumbasses
dense bone
heard that
cedar jay
@solid hinge no we need repair it
sinful steppe
NEVER pre order
undone steppe
@tropic nest i wasnt even going to buy the game because of the sjw bullshit but it actually turned out to be fun. Now that they changed the TTK its shit
tropic nest
Especially when they call their fan base nazis for wanting historical accuracy @dense bone
viscid crater
According to who's rules should you never pre-order?
median raven
Only pre ordered for the Red Devil KE7 grip
dense bone
no one, youre just setting yourself up to get screwed
tropic nest
As the tf2 engineer says “that’s whatcha get” @undone steppe
viscid crater
If someone wants to preorder who gives af
dense bone
as has happened
median raven
You should never pre order
solid hinge
origin access is way better than pre order anyways
And they fucked me over with all the times it went on sale
Like they’re desperate once again
median raven
People who pre order are paving the path for greedy corporations to fuck us in the ass just like what's happening now
dense bone
i like how you guys are trying to paint me to be some vigilant or tyrant trying to control you guys, while im just saying logical shit
solid hinge
ORANGE MAN BAD
viscid crater
People will always pre-order. And that's their right
lapis hare
orang
cerulean finch
i need help i update and cannot play the game because "Display name field missing"
dense bone
i 100% dont give a fuck if you pre order and get screwed
viscid crater
Who are you to dictate to them
grave loom
ya yeet
solid hinge
@dense bone I bought launch day and got fucked
dense bone
exactly
median raven
I agree with Nyphon on this one
tropic nest
That’s whatcha get
undone steppe
thats why i didnt preorder this game lol
dense bone
but hey, i cant tell you to not pre order because im a dictator if i do
tropic nest
Dice doesn’t give a fuck
craggy snow
Fucking change.org 😂 😂 😂
jovial forge
Well considering many said the gunplay was great where it was, its only natural complaints are rolling in even harder you know
lapis hare
bro
dense bone
logic
lapis hare
4 people have signed it
solid hinge
change.org lmao another meme
dim gazelle
%
lapis hare
lets get that fucking 100 boise 💯
dim gazelle
5
cedar jay
@dense bone ammm i just dont like the ttk and for me its logical to say my opinion abaout this
viscid crater
"logic" Something that's not possessed by many here
solid hinge
Oh yeah battlefield 5 is still early access just so y’all know
tropic nest
I’d rather have them move to historical accuracy over TTK fixes
simple marlin
So what's the new drama now?
dim gazelle
if u sign , pls comment down below what do u think
swift condor
Oof confirmed?
solid hinge
So many missing launch features not included
dim gazelle
it gets more attention them
viscid crater
Game has divulged into a shit show. Recon/Support everywhere.
dense bone
@cedar jay thats fine, but it doesnt do anything and most people commenting complaints are just circle jerking with very lacking criticism
tropic nest
I’m gonna sign it as Barack Hussein Obama
simple marlin
Sign what?
lapis hare
yobama
candid plaza
“Y-you shouldn’t pre-order” like what are any of you gonna do stop them? Good luck convincing the people outside of discord reddit and 4fail.
undone steppe
there is not much to criticize other than we dont want the new ttk and that they shouldnt have replaced every game mode with the new ttk
tropic nest
4chan you mean?
dense bone
its not my job or my concern to get people to stop pre ordering, its just logical not to
viscid crater
@undone steppe essentially ye
golden hatch
ill decide how i spend my money tbh
viscid crater
@solid hinge Siege 😉
jovial forge
Conquest Core should of been where ttk 2.0 should of been to test the waters
lapis hare
I think if you ask /v/ what their opinion on battlefield is
golden hatch
I pre-ordered and im fine with it
cedar jay
@tropic nest battlefiled is about gameplay not historical accuracy
solid hinge
Certainly not battlefield lol
swift condor
OSRS
median raven
I'm not gonna try and stop them I'm just stating pre ordering doesn't do anyone good
lapis hare
they'll tell you its a load of bad stuff
undone steppe
@jovial forge exactly
dense bone
@golden hatch thats fine, i really dont care, i gotthe game a week later for 30 bucks new, i came out ahead here
if it doesnt bother you at all, thats good
dense bone
glad its not more on your plate
viscid crater
Yes, it's shit
solid hinge
@craggy snow yes it’s awful
craggy snow
Haha
golden hatch
doesnt bother me, im happy that i got to play it earlier
undone steppe
yeah but im tired of conquest already
viscid crater
A not fun sponge fest
simple marlin
There's common sense to don't do things as such pre-ordering or smoking but people do it anyway
median raven
It's economics in the gaming industry. Gamers have become satisfied with half finished games buggy as hell with micro transactions and dlc worth more than the game
craggy snow
Games so bad you're on the discord for it
solid hinge
@viscid crater I would but I got bored of it as I just got burnt on it
candid plaza
I dunno why this is even an argument. The TTK is the biggest issue and it effects anyone playing the game currently not when it released a month ago.
swift condor
Yeah played the firing range 
jovial forge
Asking have we played is a pretty silyl question
viscid crater
@craggy snow That doesn't make any sense
jovial forge
thats why we're saying it ain't it
viscid crater
@solid hinge Fair enough lol
solid hinge
I’m a battlefield fan and if I don’t like something I’m gonna be vocal about it @craggy snow
candid plaza
But sure continue to whine and gripe about pre-orders.
craggy snow
And you'll keep playing it
solid hinge
No I’m not
viscid crater
@craggy snow Ok chief
median raven
I partly blame pre orders for the downfall of this terribly executed shit show of a game
dense bone
where you are being vocal doesnt mean shit though
solid hinge
I actually dropped it after playing the new changes @craggy snow
craggy snow
Servers are still full of noobs whining and going 2-20
viscid crater
Am I playing now? No. Will I play later. No
dense bone
you think anyone at dice is reading this?
viscid crater
@dense bone You never know
cedar jay
@dense bone maybe
dense bone
no we know
lapis hare
perhaps
dense bone
they dont
solid hinge
@dense bone no but it’s a battlefield discord so of course we’re gonna complain
jovial forge
well they're asking for feedback so...yes to a degree
dense bone
never seen a dice or ea person in here once
solid hinge
It’s the appropriate place
dense bone
and im here A LOT
viscid crater
@dense bone Are you keeping tabs on all dice employees now?
undone steppe
ive already submitted my thoughts on reddit and the bf forums so not much else i can do
lapis hare
^
dense bone
if i have to to prove something to you guys maybe
simple marlin
You all already spent the money for the game and will come back eventually so who cares
dense bone
doubt i will though
cedar jay
@solid hinge i seen
dense bone
not worth my time
median raven
I've been refunded by EA
viscid crater
@dense bone What you gonna prove chief?
median raven
So no I won't be back
median raven
No
cedar jay
yes
solid hinge
@simple marlin I’m following through with not coming back until they revert these changes
median raven
And I've been here pre launch
viscid crater
Look over there chief >>>>>>>>>>
craggy snow
If you want old TTK then just use MG42. TTK is less than 1ms more
jovial forge
Why would they? they could easily be lurking under an alias
lapis hare
just because they don't message in the channels doesn't really mean they don't watch it though
viscid crater
They could look Not like it's impossible
dense bone
lol @viscid crater youre cute
simple marlin
Refunding means you had a low amount of hours so w/e
viscid crater
Thank bae
solid hinge
If you want the old ttk you split the playerbase
solid hinge
Rather than having a cte lol
lapis hare
why would they bother participating in the chat if they're going to get hammered by people?
viscid crater
Don't have to participate to view the chat
jovial forge
Look but say nothing
dense bone
its a likely indication that they are even reading
jovial forge
basically
heavy zealot
Whatsupp? Whats going on here
rugged cairn
is there a way to test vehicles/upgrades you bought without having to spawn one in a live server?
viscid crater
They probably can't interact without approval first
swift condor
Grand slam on EA/DICE
dense bone
a circle jerk @heavy zealot
heavy zealot
Lovely
solid hinge
@dense bone how much is ea paying you to shill lol
undone steppe
were all batin here
viscid crater
@solid hinge LOOOL
solid hinge
Even Westie ain’t shilling this
heavy zealot
You guys talking about ttk updates?
sinful steppe
i would never come in here if i worked at Dice lol, would ruin my day
dense bone
i can guarantee you, complaining here is probably the least of the viable places to get your complaint heard
viscid crater
Yeah
merry ivy
yes everyone who says something good about EA/DICE is a paid shill
lapis hare
yes
craggy snow
TTK hasn't affected tanks. Just change your play style
merry ivy
man I would love it if EA could pay me
viscid crater
@dense bone I'll complain here none the less 😄
heavy zealot
Why is this ttk a problem
solid hinge
@merry ivy exactly like that dude Westie
viscid crater
@heavy zealot because it's shit
solid hinge
Wonder how much of that money he gets
heavy zealot
A good player can ajust to his enviroment..
swift condor
Yeah change you play style..... Get the KE7 out lads
lapis hare
because its too casual & made weapons even weaker now
jovial forge
You know you goofed when even your paid puppets are complaining
undone steppe
it makes half the guns shit
sinful steppe
@heavy zealot a good player is now less dominant
dense bone
@solid hinge im actually pretty neutral, its sad that being neutral is being considered as shilling, i think you guys are all at one major extreme and relative to that it seems like im being paid off or wahtever you are trying to sell
heavy zealot
Ok, as a player who is standing outside this. What is the difference?
craggy snow
Drilling ttk changed from 1ms to 1ms
viscid crater
"neutral" ok then?
merry ivy
The Drilling is unaffected... what are they thinking
dense bone
@viscid crater alright, its just near meaningless
say something that i have said positive about ea or dice
jovial forge
@heavy zealot Extra bullet or two to kill, but the ttk effects everything and made some guns worse
solid hinge
Man when will battlefield be good again
swift condor
I wonder how long this discussion can go on for
solid hinge
That’s my hope is battlefield to be good again
viscid crater
@dense bone You really want me to look through the chat logs?
craggy snow
Battlefield has always been a casual shooter.
viscid crater
I got complaining to do mate
merry ivy
snipers and shotguns are unaffected, NICE DICE
dense bone
if you want to say im shilling, find it
heavy zealot
How much bullets it takes to kill? Body shot?
viscid crater
Ain't got time for that
dense bone
convenient
viscid crater
Riiiiight?
novel mason
@heavy zealot https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/a5fa7u/battlefield_v_ttk_change_list_12122018/
Depends on the weapon. More info there
lapis hare
smgs last I heard needed like
undone steppe
technically 5 so one more than bf1
lapis hare
6-7 bullets
heavy zealot
Thanks
lapis hare
to do the big kill
solid hinge
@craggy snow battlefield is causal but it has had mechanics that doesn’t cater to noobs that won’t care for the game for not even a week
dense bone
@solid hinge quote me where im saying anything positive about bfv or dice
solid hinge
@dense bone I hope you’re kidding
dense bone
do it
solid hinge
There’s a shit ton
undone steppe
i hope they remaster some 1942 maps
novel mason
Is this what the discord has become now
craggy snow
Battle of Britain please
swift condor
Wack
& ty
solid hinge
It’s actually everywhere in this chat log
sinful steppe
@heavy zealot the ttk change fucks up the whole flow of the game, flanking is now less valuable, ammo is more important causing players to play more passive and stay near ammo stations, gunfights take longer so reinfiorcments have more time to reach a flag being taken and so on
undone steppe
yea battle of britain for sure
dense bone
then it will be easy to find a quote and post it
lapis hare
yes
solid hinge
You’re not worth my time lol
viscid crater
ooof
solid hinge
I don’t reason with shills and fan boys
viscid crater
rip buddy
dense bone
yep
craggy snow
If you flank someone and can't kill them because 1 extra bullet then you are trash af
dense bone
but cant find anything that supports that claim
swift condor
#NotMyBttlefield
viscid crater
@craggy snow ok
grave loom
@dense bone for what its worth i agreee with u Smile
swift condor
I remember that shit
solid hinge
#notmyttk
viscid crater
lol
sinful steppe
xx@craggy snow i dont think you have a deeper understanding of how a game like this works
dense bone
@grave loom i think ttk is fine, idc which one it is either way, at this point i want it to go back so these crybabies can stfu
viscid crater
but he has god aim
heavy zealot
Cant open the link so cpuld sb say how much bullets on average
viscid crater
leave him be
craggy snow
Haha @sinful steppe has next level knowledge.
heavy zealot
Rough number
grave loom
youre not wrong lmao
solid hinge
@dense bone now you want to label us as cry babies
viscid crater
@craggy snow What platform you play? Let's see those stats big boy
novel mason
I'll call it 5 @heavy zealot . Not sure
solid hinge
Wow
sinful steppe
@craggy snow 1 more bullet to kill changes EVERYTHING alot more than it seems
jovial forge
Trying to label those that disagree crybabies? wtf
heavy zealot
5 is quite normall imo
solid hinge
Exactly
dense bone
its not disagreeing
craggy snow
@viscid crater PC
undone steppe
@heavy zealot it depends on the weapon but 5-7
solid hinge
Yea it is
dense bone
a lot of people disagree and i dont call them anything
viscid crater
@craggy snow origin name?
loud palm
LFSquad, anyone wanna play?
jovial forge
You just did though
heavy zealot
On bf4 its same
sinful steppe
@craggy snow and yes my knowledge is next level
solid hinge
I disagree with the change and according to this shill I’m a crybaby lol
polar imp
Any recon players?
undone steppe
bf4 is faster ttk
dense bone
but when you sit in a meaningless chat spewing the same complaints with hardly any constructive criticism, thats a cry baby
undone steppe
than current
swift condor
Yeah @polar imp
jovial forge
Well this is a battlefield discussion channel
craggy estuary
but how do we know thats you @craggy snow
solid hinge
I have been constructive @dense bone hence why I listed my reasons numerous times for it
dense bone
i like i cant call someone a crybaby with reason, but i can be called shill for having a neutral attitude to dice
polar imp
@swift condor thoughts on the m95
solid hinge
And this is a battlefield channel so of course if we don’t like something we can be vocal
viscid crater
@craggy snow So you're a tank main?
dense bone
for the 5th time, you can be vocal, never told anyone they cant
craggy snow
@craggy estuary I can send you my password if that helps
sinful steppe
@craggy snow a tanker in here talking about the ttk change, im out
polar imp
Also a bunch of people disagree w the ttk now
viscid crater
looool
swift condor
It's seems alright to me but I prefer the Krag @polar imp
dense bone
for the 7th time, your complaints just mean nothing here and its illogical to keep spamming here with the same complaints
merry ivy
I wonder if their data will see all the people jumping ship because weapon balance has been ziptied, doused in gasoline and thrown off a cliff into a garbage fire
polar imp
Probably 80% of the community hates it
swift condor
Or Kar98
novel mason
Being vocal /=/ complaining for the sake of it
dense bone
scratch, dont get into it
solid hinge
@novel mason tf you mean
dense bone
logicl eludes them
polar imp
@swift condor I respect that, what level recon are you
dense bone
youll be a shill
craggy snow
@sinful steppe less than half my kills are tanks. Try again.
dense bone
you have to say ttk is bad and dice is shit, otherwise youll be labeled a shill
swift condor
20 @polar imp
solid hinge
We’re not complaining we’re giving feed back
loud palm
Anyone feel like playing the game vs bitching over it?
viscid crater
@dense bone behave
sacred hull
did they fix company coin bug
polar imp
Negative feedback...
jovial forge
Dice literally asked for feedback, we gave it and talking about it
dense bone
@jovial forge feedback here? does nothing
simple marlin
Feedback here?
polar imp
Hopefully dice can somewhat fix the issues
sacred hull
if not im goin to bed
simple marlin
merry ivy
i dont feel like playing the game when guns are this frustrating to use and I still get killed in one frame but that’s just me
jovial forge
In the proper areas where they asked for it obviously
loud palm
11:51 AM] Rogue-Mike: Dice literally asked for feedback, we gave it and talking about it
Dice isn't here maaaan. You might as well complain to me about your Chinese takeout last night.
sacred hull
omfg have they fixed the bug with company coin for lvl 50s
dense bone
yes mike, and thats not here
solid hinge
maybe this discord needs a salt/complaints channel?
dense bone
^
solid hinge
that'd make everyone happy
dense bone
it really does
sacred hull
have
novel mason
I honestly feel like a vent channel is a good idea lmao
loud palm
if anyone actually wants to play the game, i'm looking for a squad
viscid crater
No need to spam
novel mason
What problem in particular
dense bone
i want to talk bfv here
polar imp
Maybe just a channel that’s filled with people giving negative feedback
viscid crater
@dense bone go ahead
solid hinge
This is a battlefield discussion channel lol
sacred hull
ahhh fuck this chat
swift condor
Where's POW when you need him
simple marlin
I suddenly got some beefy cc today so im guessing they fixed it
solid hinge
Not everything will be sunshine and rainbows about the game
craggy estuary
@sacred hull i have been earning since i got to 50
sacred hull
oh
sleek tartan
BF1>BFV
You can't change my mind.