put in a cheeky 
#battlefield-legacy-titles
lapis hare
quaint pollen
ye gotta watch out for those "casual players that totally left due to the well set up TTK"
viscid crater
You're not allowed to even joke about that
undone steppe
yeah man, i loved the old TTK and im usually a hardcore player but i found that to be the perfect balance
viscid crater
Dice will see and be like "look, one person likes it. Let's keep it"
quaint pollen
"hey look how many people aren't going out of their way to join the 4 core servers in their countries... we FUCKIN NAILED THIS ONE BOYS"
viscid crater
Try using a semi-auto rifle. Cancer for your mind I swear to god.
lapis hare
bro facebook & twitter are one fire
solid hinge
didnt they made a post in twitter saying they wouldnt change the ttk
undone steppe
not that i know of
solid hinge
like 2 weeks ago
viscid crater
But "the none vocal majority" know best
dim gazelle
Should i start a petition? Against this change?
quaint pollen
"won't change ttk" = "don't have anyone able to fix the shitnetcode"
solid hinge
like EA and DICE cares about its players
dim gazelle
Would u sign it?
solid hinge
undone steppe
id sign that shit if there isnt already one
lapis hare
I usually can put up with most things
dim gazelle
Ok i will open one up then
quaint pollen
I feel bad for the devs that are getting slapped around by bosses that don't know how to read the cries of its community
lapis hare
but changing mechanics for the simple reason of pandering to people that are less skilled in shooting
well
viscid crater
"Although not extremely vocal within our deeply engaged community, we see from our game data that the wider player base is dying too fast leading to faster churn - meaning players may be getting frustrated with dying too fast that they choose not to log back in and learn how to become more proficient at Battlefield V. Changing TTK values in addition to improving TTD elements will help these particular instances and hopefully result in better gameplay experiences for players of all skill levels."
๐
undone steppe
i wouldnt have mind the new TTK if put it in a small playlist and left old TTK in all the major playlists
viscid crater
That's it, base the game off imaginary data and not what the community is saying
๐
lapis hare
what happened to the fact that battlefield 5 was supposed to be a tacticool game?
viscid crater
Conquest Core should have had the new ttk, not the other way around
solid hinge
@undone steppe same I hate being forced to only play conquest with the old ttk
viscid crater
-.-
undone steppe
but i feel like with old ttk being hidden they will use that as an excuse to say that its not as popular
viscid crater
You're a sponge
quaint pollen
"hmm everyone who cares enough to stay and voice their opinion.... or the people who already left and use it as an excuse for a lazy fix"
solid hinge
Not anymore when people are bullet sponges
devout edge
They're also acknowledging that it fucked the balance up https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/a5t9st/dice_gameplay_designer_admits_the_game_is_not/
viscid crater
SpongeField V: We've gone fucked it again boys
lapis hare
im waiting for the sequel
viscid crater
Hmm
lapis hare
spongefield V 2: We cucked it big time edition
undone steppe
kind of seems like hes walking it back
solid hinge
Mindless aggression is actually a good tactic
Now that the ttk changes are live
Wait is it like bf1 ttk?
quaint pollen
PinCushion V: medics are squirt guns
short estuary
where is my CC fix 
https://imgur.com/zJl2xJx
undone steppe
@solid hinge pretty much
viscid crater
MAYBE just MAYBE don't push a change this big across the entire game you plebs. Test it in a PTE first -.-
lapis hare
^
viscid crater
ew
lapis hare
that way you wouldn't set half of twitter on fire
quaint pollen
hey man they totally cared and gave everyone "core" servers 
looks at the total of 6 na servers
undone steppe
^
lapis hare
YOU CAN PLAY CONQUEST WITH THE OLD TTK
viscid crater
Hmm, what if this is a huge marketing ploy. Create a massive shit storm and then fix it. ๐ฎ
lapis hare
solid hinge
Only conquest which sucks
quaint pollen
ye thats where you get them
solid hinge
I want to play old ttk on breakthrough
quaint pollen
feign being brain dead then partal fixes
lapis hare
I pinched myself in the arm today
quaint pollen
lapis hare
just wanted to wake up tbh
viscid crater
Breakthrough is the best gamemode on BFV, change my mind.
undone steppe
I get why they are doing it because they are trying to get more sales for christmas but come on, you pissed off the loyal fanbase
solid hinge
@viscid crater agreed
deft crescent
no offense, but you guys are bunch of crybabies
solid hinge
@undone steppe appealing to casuals ๐
viscid crater
Encourages squad play 
lapis hare
quaint pollen
@viscid crater thats clearly what they did with the marketing... they just called their community retarded then fired the person who said it to seem progressive
solid hinge
@deft crescent prove us wrong then
vague reef
so what's the new meta?
quaint pollen
not playing
lapis hare
just change it back right after christmas
deft crescent
what do I have to prove? the new ttk made the skill gap bigger, attrition more meaningful
gray glade
@vague reef the stg1-5 is still king
lapis hare
skill gap bigger
undone steppe
fuck that i want it changed back before xmas
deft crescent
yes, moron
viscid crater
solid hinge
Skill gap bigger ๐
vague reef
seems like suomi/thompson are cqb kings, m1907 best all around automatic, semi autos are outclassed, double barrel is good, and all snipers are a bit better
good synopsis or?
frozen sparrow
@deft crescent Let's not resort to insults
quaint pollen
CONFIRMED BF5 IS JUST MARKETING TO SET UP BF6 SO PEOPLE SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY AND ARE DRIVEN TO BUY 6
solid hinge
Nah the opposite happened
gray glade
new TTK feels like higher rpm guns have an advantage
for mg42 there is like no difference
lapis hare
deft crescent
higher rpm weapons always had a advantage
dim gazelle
viscid crater
@gray glade yup, massive increase in bipoded weapons ๐
quaint pollen
bruh I think I'm on to something 
solid hinge
The skill gap is lower when you can soak up bullets
dim gazelle
my petition, pls sign it
deft crescent
the only thing that balanced them was recoil
viscid crater
Skill gap is lower when you can only kill one enemy per clip 
solid hinge
The skill gap is also lower when people can play mindless aggression
undone steppe
got you danny
frozen sparrow
I do agree with him though re: skill gap. Since headshots were untouched but damage was otherwise reduced, the game is more forgiving now (= lower skill floor), while simultaneously being more rewarding relatively if you hit headshots (= higher skill ceiling).
dim gazelle
can a mod ping my message lol?
quaint pollen
a higher skill ceiling thats easier to reach though with a handy dandy bipod
frozen sparrow
Not that "wider skill gap" = "better game" though, just an observation
deft crescent
"lower". headshots got more important, recoil control got more important, tracking got more important. everything about mechanical skill got more important
the only thing that got less important, but only slightly, was positioning
viscid crater
With the shit netcode and awful hitboxes tailoring the game to headshots is stupid
gray glade
i dont mind an extra shot overall, only the lower rpm guns might need a boost
undone steppe
yeah but if casuals need to go for headshots everytime then they are going to get shit on
solid hinge
@dim gazelle I signed it
quaint pollen
mmg + corner + proned = always the meta
undone steppe
they are casuals not people who play everyday
solid hinge
If they want this game to be primarily headshots then make the hit boxes better
deft crescent
lmao, no
deft crescent
this makes 0 sense
solid hinge
The hit boxes are bad
rustic kraken
dice chupame el reverendo pene
lapis hare
signed
undone steppe
hitboxes seem fine
viscid crater
Yes they are
lapis hare
lets get this money @dim gazelle
deft crescent
headshotting in bfv is easier than it ever was in bf
solid hinge
No itโs still the same
undone steppe
idk about that easy but its not bad
viscid crater
Netcode also shafts your shots too but 
solid hinge
As in every battlefield
deft crescent
how is it the same when spread is no longer a real factor
solid hinge
Apparently fortifications are now fixed
deft crescent
it's literally point and click + recoil control
undone steppe
hitboxes and headshots seem like every other bf game to me
dim gazelle
@lapis hare what money lol?
viscid crater
Which have always been shit lol @undone steppe
undone steppe
no just netcode but that usually gets fixed with time
dim gazelle
2 ppl signed already, movingf in the right direction lol
deft crescent
anyway, play conquest core
viscid crater
No
deft crescent
they're going to remove the new ttk anyway
viscid crater
It's shit
solid hinge
Nah
deft crescent
soon enough
deft crescent
oh geez
solid hinge
Iโm forced to play only one game mode that I hate in battlefield 5
solid hinge
I hate conquest in battlefield 5, breakthrough much better
deft crescent
so what modes do you play?
deft crescent
breakthrough is nothing more than a meatgrinder
solid hinge
Conquest is people playing ring around the Rosie
solid hinge
^
deft crescent
oh geeeeeeeeez
viscid crater
Please enlighten us with your wisdom oh great one
solid hinge
breakthrough needs overtime mechanic
viscid crater
It does have
undone steppe
conquest is nice but its not something i want to be stuck on
solid hinge
Regardless Iโm not sticking around when medic smgs kill in 6 shots even at close range ๐
dim gazelle
breakthrough and airbone best modes
steel fjord
breakthrough feels like a camp fest for the defenders. low visibility plus the ttk/ttd makes it feel like a meat grinder
deft crescent
like I said, they're going back to the old ttk anyway
viscid crater
when you are capping with no tickets remaining, as long as someone is on it
deft crescent
sooner than later
wild cape
Iโll take my grand ops elsewhere then xD
dim gazelle
final stand as single mode would be nice too
lapis hare
yea thats a speculation
until they really say it, its all just rumors & speculations mind you
undone steppe
my fav is a toss up between operations and breakthrough rn
solid hinge
I'd play more GO, but its literally unplayable for me
steel fjord
i dislike grand operations because the 1st 2 days feel absolutely meaningless
torpid wing
Do you guys think the ttk change will stay?
viscid crater
I hope not @torpid wing
solid hinge
it wont stay, not if they want to make money with this game
unborn blaze
I hope not also
undone harbor
ttk suck me
lapis hare
succ
undone steppe
ive only played the final stand mode once and i didnt even know so i died right away lol
solid hinge
It sounds like they will unless people really get vocal about it
unborn blaze
Conquest Core is the only playable gamemode
undone harbor
changed my name to help the movement
deft crescent
out of curiosity: are you all console players?
viscid crater
They didn't need to change the ttk at all, just some slight weapon tweaks and we'd have been perfect
viscid crater
PC
undone steppe
pc
unborn blaze
I'm console, but I still enjoy the odd PC game
solid hinge
eeew console
undone harbor
if they didn't have conquest core I wouldn't touch the game until its fuxed
undone steppe
vet since bf2
solid hinge
They needed to fix the ttd bug which is a separate issue from ttk
echo glen
RIP peeps who didn't get the VGO, like me, even though I killed like 3 people with the vickers mg.
solid hinge
And the ttk changes made didnโt even make the ttd feel better than before
unborn blaze
I don't even know how you'd get it
viscid crater
TTD is worse now lol
umbral stone
Guys any news about retuning the old ttk? (
viscid crater
It's soooo bad.
lapis hare
tho Luoenzo, going back to what you just said above
undone steppe
yeah ttd feels the same lol
solid hinge
i just cant get the last assignment done ๐ฆ
dim gazelle
vgo is nice weapon
lapis hare
I don't think we can get any more vocal about it
viscid crater
Noobs are gonna be like tf???
dim gazelle
now its even better
steel fjord
idk. i haven't been killed in one frame since the update
opaque cipher
Say
viscid crater
I've played less since they introduced it. I don't even want to play anymore, it just pisses me off
opaque cipher
Why doesn't the bombing raid event happen more on Devastation?
solid hinge
well, you're a bulletsponge now
dim gazelle
yeah i just stopped playing too
umbral stone
Guys any news about returning the old ttk? (
steel fjord
because you can tank 1 more bullet
unborn blaze
That's bad and wrong and bad
undone steppe
the bombing raid is badass
onyx blade
Join the netcode test:
https://twitter.com/DRUNKKZ3/status/1073222961904189440
solid hinge
bombing raid?
steel fjord
unless you learn how to aim and headshot people. takes the same
unborn blaze
Nah
lapis hare
flares will shoot up, an air raid siren will sound
stuck plaza
Server name: [DICE] Netcode Testing
Server password: mrbattlefieldborn1942
DONT GO TO A
lapis hare
& bombs will drop
stuck plaza
can it get a pin
opaque cipher
You know how in grand operation Rotterdam day 2 the German announcer say that the air force bombed Rotterdam?
That's actually an event and a real life thing back in WWII
stuck plaza
netcode test server
opaque cipher
Where Germans fired up red flares to call off the bombing run but bombs were still dropped
It looks cool af but it almost never happens
Kinda like snow storm on Fjell
soft breach
Ptarmigann, i saw a video on that, it's really cool. You can even see the flares drop
undone steppe
interesting that they are doing netcode tests now. hoping that means a step in making old ttk better with netcode optimization
unborn blaze
I dunno
soft breach
I hope they add more dynamic weather and small events in future maps
unborn blaze
Hopefully
heavy zealot
Netcode mainly effects people when they have shitty internet right๐ค๐ค
unborn blaze
I wanna make a tower fall again
undone steppe
kind of it factors in alot of shit
heavy zealot
Yeah but i think this one is main factor, next to server performance etc
unborn blaze
#BringBackMajorDestruction
undone steppe
its main factor for the fast feeling ttd
soft breach
What this game needs, i can't say this enough is: We need an D-day operation!
heavy zealot
Yeah lot of shot through a wall reports and 1 shot kill reports come from this
undone steppe
id love D day or battle of the bulge
unborn blaze
We aren't getting it
heavy zealot
Hate it, cuz when u explain the issue is their ping people say no he cheats blabla etc
dim gazelle
i want to conquer berlin lol
umbral stone
omg i really wanna play in bf5 . However dice made a good game but spoiled it even less than after a month of release date((((
undone steppe
berlin would be badass too
unborn blaze
I wanna fight in Dieppe
soft breach
Mg42 people love this update, they can tear down teams much easier now
lapis hare
I played a mod with it in Company of Heroes 2 recently
dim gazelle
but not with the ttk
lapis hare
though im fucking shit at the game so I lost 
undone steppe
what do you mean we arent getting it? you mean d day?
silk mist
I suck with CoH too, so I just use mods too lmao
lapis hare
I played Warcraft 3 for a good amount
but coming to CoH
bro where the hell is my magic
unborn blaze
Yeah, we aren't getting D-Day
undone steppe
how do you know though?
silk mist
Coh was free a couple days ago
unborn blaze
They said they aren't covering major battles like that
dim gazelle
NO DDAY?
undone steppe
damn
dim gazelle
i start another petition lol
lapis hare
lesser known battles
so
invasion of Denmark?
danes are getting melee weapons only & bicycles for vehicles
germans have standard loadouts
undone steppe
operation mars would be interesting too
unborn blaze
When they bring back the old TTK
quaint pollen
"covers lesser known battles" = "hopefully nobody fact checks genders" 
unborn blaze
I don't really care who I'm shooting
heavy zealot
Lets nog nerf anything
strong spear
I hate the nerfs on fighters tbh
dim gazelle
@unborn blaze even on kids?
strong spear
The ammo count
unborn blaze
^
quaint pollen
if it moves it catches 15 bullets in 1 frame
strong spear
What If it's sight is based on movement
steel fjord
hitting the target, but only body shots
lapis hare
GRA GRA GRA GRA GRA
strong spear
Like most wild panzers of BFV
unborn blaze
I mean, makes it entertaining
dim gazelle
like in real life
heavy zealot
How much do headshots multiply in bf V?
dim gazelle
x2
heavy zealot
Ok thanks, sorry i am still at bf4๐
undone steppe
im loving the luger so far
gray glade
it depends on weapon
unborn blaze
I use the Silver-Plated M1911
gray glade
for some weapons it does slightly lower than x2
undone steppe
i usually prefer 1911 but im just not feeling it in this game
undone steppe
i need to use the revolver more its pretty beastly
undone steppe
ive tried. have yet to get a kill with it haha
unborn blaze
The Liberator
woven lake
yay game still freezers when you finish a match
woven lake
dude screwoff
undone steppe
my game freezes on almost every match it pisses me off
mossy badge
The fuck is a single petition going to do to change it @dim gazelle
undone steppe
it got worse after the tides of war update
dim gazelle
It can if more ppl sign it
vague reef
should i go for hipfire rapid fire suomi or ads extended mags suomi
undone steppe
ads and just use hipfire its not too bad
dim gazelle
Extended mag
undone steppe
that way you can do both
vague reef
i dont really care for hipfire f i go ads route i always ads usually
dim gazelle
20 rounds are pretty low wirh this ttk
vague reef
the rapid fire tree looks ridiculous though
undone steppe
im the same way unless im using the mp40
unborn blaze
I mean, I hate the Sten Proficiency III
restive talon
It would be best that the guns used the doom system of reloading
unborn blaze
Don't reload?
restive talon
YES
unborn blaze
Hmmmmmmmm
novel mason
Ew
unborn blaze
It could work
unborn blaze
Just death
undone steppe
soumi is my hold over until we get the ppsh
solid hinge
it looks like theres new melee animation
restive talon
?
undone steppe
you can break peoples necks and shit if theyre laying down
solid hinge
ye
undone steppe
on their back
unborn blaze
I just use the hatchet
undone steppe
shovel ftw
unborn blaze
Hatchet*
icy sluice
You can also headbutt
https://streamable.com/oaqbn
undone steppe
lmao thats awesome
unborn blaze
Ratburner?
grave loom
New helmet from TOW
short estuary
@unborn blaze https://imgur.com/Vt2V26e
quaint pollen
getting 10 prone headshot kills in one life with a rifle is a fuckin joke with how strong any mmg is on bipod
quaint pollen
scope glint goes up 20 prone monkeys snap their aim to me
steel fjord
scope glint only on a specific class is dumb
short estuary
10 headshots in a round in objective area - that my pain in the ass
undone steppe
they need to get rid of glint on 3x for recon
austere path
is selbstader 1906 in BFV will it come?
grave loom
@austere path check next TOW rewards
vestal sun
sooo.. 90% of my headshots does not kill enemy.. but 2 shots with any machinegun weapon on a distance over 100M kills me... im i missing some thing here??
austere path
oh ok
grave loom
Wait
austere path
thanks @grave loom
dim gazelle
@quaint pollen u dont have to actually prone, if u press x its fine
crouch counts too
quaint pollen
really?
austere path
i finished half of this week's TOW in like 1.5 hours
quaint pollen
I just really don't want to play medic lol
austere path
devestation map go to church (C) and you will finish TOW pretty fast
quaint pollen
something about shooting at a laser pointer lmg with my medium rof nerf gun isn't very appealing
undone steppe
im glad dice is getting more involved with the community this time around
viscid crater
the test didn't exactly go on long tho
steel fjord
wait wait wait wait
unborn blaze
No they aren't
undone steppe
i noticed that but i have no idea how that shitworks so i cant say anything
steel fjord
are you telling me killing people crouched counts for the assignments ?
viscid crater
yes#
unborn blaze
They're literally ignoring the vocal part of the community
viscid crater
@unborn blaze the none vocal ones are the most important ๐
steel fjord
no fucking way
unborn blaze
That means they don't care enough to speak up
steel fjord
i am vocal about liking the new TTK
unborn blaze
^
steel fjord
i just don't spam it every 2 seconds
solid hinge
Does anyone else feel like uninstalling the game since they changed the TTK? I mean come on why say your keeping both but then only have core servers that are playing conquest why aren't full core playlists available?
steel fjord
well sucks for you guys i guess
viscid crater
Yes @solid hinge
unborn blaze
I only play conquest
unique thunder
I feel like asking for a refund
grave loom
Its really not that big of a deal
unborn blaze
So it works for me
viscid crater
@steel fjord Gonna suck for you when it's reverted
unique thunder
and then asking that they buy me a copy of COD
undone steppe
i didnt mind them adding in new ttk to test but they could have at least did it the opposite way with the playlists
unique thunder
and maybe a sandwich
steel fjord
so be it
grave loom
i was nervous, then i played a Couple rounds and its not as bad as expected
unique thunder
honestly the way people are going on you'd think they removed the fucking guns
fluid warren
what does it mean to complete 5 squad orders?
dim gazelle
@steel fjord yes it works with crouching lol
steel fjord
but you won't see me full on autistic screeching on reddit/twitter/discord
solid hinge
I've already maxed out all my gun levels. And yes it is a BIG DEAL. I'm using the m1 carbine shooting a group of enemies about 10 hit markers will come up and I will only kill 2 people before that would of been at least 4 people dead...
undone steppe
i hate it dont get me wrong. and they might as well have removed half the guns lol
viscid crater
When shotguns are the most consistent/balanced guns in the game there's a problem
Guess what
They didn't touch them
unborn blaze
Remember BF1 shotguns?
viscid crater
๐ฎ
unborn blaze
That was a mess
viscid crater
These are actually good tho
undone steppe
remember bc2 shotguns ๐
dim gazelle
lol bf 1 shotguns
unborn blaze
People were always complaining about them
steel fjord
you guys are talking like they plan on leaving the guns like this if they keep the TTK
dim gazelle
this one trench version haha
unique thunder
bc2 shotguns were lit
viscid crater
Hmm, they make changes to some weapons, then change the TKK
undone steppe
sniping with slugs haha
viscid crater
HMMM
viscid crater
by changing the ttk back ๐
solid hinge
If they don't change the TTK back il just play BF4 & BC2
unborn blaze
Hopefully
viscid crater
if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
steel fjord
and maybe changing it back once again
undone steppe
the only problem with what your saying flip, is that they cant give guns more rounds lol
unique thunder
those bc2 shotguns gave me one of the funniest moments in gaming, when a guy took the time to record a voice message for me and my mate accusing us of aimbox (on xbox at the time) because we headshot him from across the map
viscid crater
I can think of maybe two guns that were consistently op in the old TTK, G43 and ZH-27
steel fjord
why not?
viscid crater
that's all
viscid crater
it was like 2 shot lol
undone steppe
you cant put extended mags on guns that use clips
solid hinge
M1 Carbine was OP
viscid crater
if you could shoot quick lol
unborn blaze
I felt the G43 was better than the M1
viscid crater
otherwise it was ass
steel fjord
guess snipers were OP. 2 shot at any range ๐ฎ
solid hinge
KE7 was OP also
viscid crater
M1A1 is also shit at range
undone steppe
ke7 is still a little op tbh
steel fjord
every weapon was OP. thats why they all got nerfed
grave loom
dude if u hit heads M1 is op at any range lmao
unique thunder
yeah M1 is all about headshots
solid hinge
It's got a bit more recoil @undone steppe
viscid crater
G43 was basically a self loading rifle
viscid crater
..........
unique thunder
i mean the game in general is now more about headshots
undone steppe
it does but it still seems a little too accurate to me but thats just my opinion
compact oxide
Only true Chad's go knife only
solid hinge
what is a totioka? (BF1)
fluid warren
what does it mean to complete 5 squad orders?
compact oxide
I will, I'll stab ya
solid hinge
Why did they change the explosive damage on dynamite, mine's and the RPGs they were perfect before I mean I know people were using dynamite to get multikills but come on. .
viscid crater
Rockets can't even 1 shot planes ๐
woven dust
@fluid warren your squad leader needs to assign either attack or defend orders
compact oxide
@solid hinge it's a Fijian club I think
fluid warren
oh
compact oxide
Or something
undone steppe
rockets dont 1 shot planes anymore?
viscid crater
Nope
solid hinge
@viscid crater They could before my mate took 3 planes out with a single rpg each in 1 game haha
undone steppe
i noticed they dont destroy buildings or fortifications anymore but thats complete bs
unique thunder
that is outrageous
viscid crater
They could before, but not for a while now
unique thunder
if a plane comes close enough and you hit it with a rocket, you deserve that kill
woven dust
@fluid warren r Shouldn't be hard to complete - but easiest way would probably be to make a squad in Conquest and just set defend orders on the base nearest your spawn. If you see your team capping a point swith to attack that point
solid hinge
To kill a tank you now have to use 2 rockets, 2 dynamite and anti tank grenade to finish the job it's insane
viscid crater
@solid hinge that doesn't even work all the time
latent cairn
@solid hinge I should start tanking more I hear ๐
undone steppe
wtf went through there heads when they thought planes could tank rockets
viscid crater
I got 35 damage for 2 dynamite earlier
undone steppe
tanks needed a buff tbh but that seems a little overkill
viscid crater
Explosive damage in general is fucked
latent cairn
@undone steppe Planes can take a panzerfaust hit now?
viscid crater
Yeah
solid hinge
The new map they introduced with more tanks is so stupid now u have a load of tanks everywhere and it takes ages to kill them it don't make sense
undone steppe
thats what i heard
latent cairn
latent cairn
I havent played the game since they made the TTK change
undone steppe
i only played a few hours
solid hinge
The bomber planes needed to be nurfed slightly but now it's so much harder to get kills
I feel dirty I have like 130 hours already ๐
viscid crater
The game is just urghh nowadays
solid hinge
I got the most out of it while it was good
viscid crater
Feels like a chore to play
latent cairn
LOL
undone steppe
i have around 130 too but now its not satisfying with this new ttk
solid hinge
Agreed
viscid crater
I was expecting this to be a game I play through the entire cycle. I loved it.
median raven
Severe lack of content
solid hinge
I was excited for the new updates including the battle royale it's going to be shit now
undone steppe
i could accept the lack of content because the gameplay was excellent
viscid crater
It's that they're happy to fuck us because of the "none-vocal community" and some made up data
the game WAS amazing.
median raven
The game was never amazing
steel fjord
made up. sure
median raven
The concept was amazing
latent cairn
I agree that the game was good before Joshyy
viscid crater
Oh here we go, incoming shills
latent cairn
The new TTK is just not worth my time tbh...
Waiting for them to change it back hopefully
median raven
It's not even the new TTK you've all flocked towards that subject like sheep
solid hinge
I had a few amazing clips of me killing 12+ people in one life I doubt that will be happening any more in operations 100+ kills easy
undone steppe
yeah at this point you might as well play bf1
viscid crater
this new TTK is soooo goood I love being forgiven for shit positioning ๐
latent cairn
@median raven Internet warrior
median raven
You think changing back the TTK is going to resolve the issue here? Wake up
steel fjord
guess why they don't "listen" to the "vocal" community ?
swift condor
Yes
narrow mantle
is it just me or this week tide of war is too easy?
median raven
Stating opinion makes me an Internet warrior? Lol
solid hinge
With this new TTK its brought a shit load of hit markers and more frustration lol
viscid crater
@undone steppe Probably just gonna stick with Siege until this mess gets fixed lol
swift condor
@solid hinge I thought this was COD?
solid hinge
Hahaha
median raven
The TTK was changed in the first place because of underlying issues you all complained about
undone steppe
no one wanted ttk changed tho
viscid crater
Nobody ever complained about the ttk
steel fjord
i did
viscid crater
It was the TDK
undone steppe
it was the main thing people praised the game for
latent cairn
The vocal minority complained about the ttk
viscid crater
@steel fjord you make up "EVERYONE"?
median raven
So reverting TTK to original values will still let those underlying issues reside
carmine eagle
Nu blyat
undone steppe
the underlying issue is netcode
viscid crater
^^
swift condor
I've never heard anyone complain about TTK
steel fjord
but you guys talk for the entire community
undone steppe
which they are working on according to twitter in the last few hours
steel fjord
makes sense
median raven
Yeah so instead of ranting about TTK rant about that
swift condor
^^^
latent cairn
@steel fjord Nope, only the majority. The majority didnt want TTK changed. There are polls that back that up
carmine eagle
TTK?
undone steppe
people want the old ttk with better netcode not this new ttk
viscid crater
Time to kill
carmine eagle
Ah
steel fjord
and there is data that doesn't
solid hinge
Everyone should just complain on Twitter until they have to change it
opaque hinge
Hi nethrex 
viscid crater
It's bullshit
median raven
@latent cairn link me to these polls
steel fjord
but i guess its made up data because it doesn't align with what you want
solid hinge
Post screenshots of us uninstalling the game haha
median raven
You or I don't have the data of the full player base so stop reciting shit
swift condor
Yeah that'll do it
latent cairn
Hey Yag ๐
viscid crater
they tried the easy approach, people told them to fuck off. Now they're fixing netcode
easy
How can you not see that's what happened?
swift condor
Hold your BFV install hostage
steel fjord
they are testing the netcode
latent cairn
@median raven You are not worth arguing with, you can scroll up in this chat or search to find them. You already seem to think you are right no matter what you are told. So that would be a waste of time for the both of us to continue
golden hatch
Not touching this game anymore until TTK changes are reverted. Done with this boring crap
swift condor
Get a ransom going
median raven
The game has countless other issues other than TTK and netcode
viscid crater
Like?
median raven
Check the known issues list and enjoy an hour long read
undone steppe
crates falling through the ground lol
steel fjord
what happens if they came up with "the test showed that the netcode is fine" ?
median raven
Then check new posts on forums and observe that over 50% of posts are bug reports
severe wraith
It's not though
viscid crater
Ok. Let me rephrase. What are the other main GAMEPLAY effecting issues?
undone steppe
netcode isnt fine it never is when battlefield games launch
opaque hinge
Ttd
grave loom
Yagman more like Cuckman haha gottem
opaque hinge
Oooooof
swift condor
But let's be honest, how many of those players are actually battlefield players?
viscid crater
Idgaf if you can't claim a shitty camo. The netcode is priority lol
latent cairn
Yag they are saying the majority wanted TTK changed
swift condor
The ones who have been with battlefield for years
opaque hinge
viscid crater
@opaque hinge Falls into netcode/ttk
median raven
I agree netcode is priority, priority amongst a whole bunch of other things
opaque hinge
severe wraith
opaque hinge
Want ttk changed
latent cairn
viscid crater
No, netcode you clown
undone steppe
people are just pissed because they are trying to mask the netcode issue with ttk
median raven
So you can all sit here and act like world leading developers in the industry
opaque hinge
I ain't a clown
median raven
But you don't know shit
severe wraith
cLOwn
worn juniper
is the new patch really so bad ?
viscid crater
Sorry that was harsh ๐ฆ
grave loom
๐คก
opaque hinge
I am a world leading developer
swift condor
Sorry Steve jobs, forgive me
latent cairn
@median raven You are the only one acting uncivilized.
viscid crater
Point being, netcode is what's causing the 1 frame deaths
grave loom
Too soon feelsbadman
opaque hinge
Oof
severe wraith
wE kNoW tHe gaMe iS a buGGy meSS @median raven
swift condor
Lol
latent cairn
You should realize not everyone agrees with you, you'd have to live in NK and be their leader for that
viscid crater
Thankfully they're working on it ๐
median raven
@viscid crater do you want me to direct you to the DICE recruitment page? You seem like you have great expertise in this area
opaque hinge
Ok
viscid crater
@median raven Sure
grave loom
๐ฐ๐ต
opaque hinge
I'll work for dice
median raven
Stick the McDonald's
viscid crater
Battle Royale
glad lily
Glorious leader plays BFV?
opaque hinge
They have a couple openings for netcode devs
latent cairn
Lets make the TTK changes optional 
opaque hinge
Glorious leader does play bfv
viscid crater
@median raven K pappy
severe wraith
I hope they dont release battle royale anytime soon
swift condor
opaque hinge
March
viscid crater
@severe wraith March I think
severe wraith
Fuck
opaque hinge
U fake phil
severe wraith
Itll still be broken
latent cairn
Eltipi can stick with his keyboard warrior society and slow TTK and the rest of us stick with the TTK we liked
viscid crater
LOOOOL
severe wraith
And the net code will still be fuKKED
opaque hinge
Oof
swift condor
F
median raven
Ouch
grave loom
๐ซ
glad lily
Blap blap 
swift condor
Get this man some milk
severe wraith
Eltipi is like the net code, he's broken asf after that one HAh
celest pumice
Iโm having a hard time enjoying this game now since TTK change Major bummer
viscid crater
oooof
opaque hinge
severe wraith
gotedeeeeme
steel fjord
funny that the keyboard society aren't the ones spamming their keyboards everywhere
opaque hinge
Damn
swift condor
@severe wraith going to have to ask you to calm down that cyber bullying
glad lily
At least I got my cc fairly compensated
undone steppe
people are being vocal because theyre pissed
viscid crater
^^
opaque hinge
Cyber bullying
latent cairn
@steel fjord Let's find the definition of "spam".
"irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to a large number of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc."
opaque hinge
Dr phil why
viscid crater
Hmm
swift condor
ThErEs No SuCh ThInG
quaint pollen
the real trick is leave as a casual player and let the devs pull your reasoning out of their own asses
viscid crater
๐ค
opaque hinge
We'll have to put you on the show
severe wraith
Let's read the definition of netcode
steel fjord
yeah. go look at reddit and twitter
viscid crater
What about it?
severe wraith
Netcodeย is a blanket term for anything that somehow relates to networking in online games;ย netcodeย is a term most commonly used by gamers when discussing synchronization issues between clients and servers.
grave loom
Lets read the definition ot insanity
steel fjord
revert TTK spam everywhere. guess that makes them the keyboard warriors
opaque hinge
latent cairn
I hate Reddit and Twitter logged me out so cba, you made it sound like it was here.
viscid crater
LOOOOOOL
opaque hinge
What is this, far cry?
grave loom
shhhhh
latent cairn
Yag 
viscid crater
Called being vocal about something they don't like Chief
opaque hinge
Hi
viscid crater
Hey
glad lily
Netcode = sniffing packets
severe wraith
Dr. Phillip C. McGraw's show draws on his 25 years of experience in psychology, sociology and observation. Beginning his TV career as the resident expert on human behavior on Oprah Winfrey's daily talk show, Dr. Phil continues to deal with real issues in his blunt style. @opaque hinge
undone steppe
obviously the majority doesnt support the new ttk then
opaque hinge
Damn
swift condor
That ain't it
latent cairn
Joshy, why dont they bend over and take it like real men? 
opaque hinge
Time to put you on the show
viscid crater
@undone steppe Don't use logic it hurts them
opaque hinge
Cause I am the real dr phil
severe wraith
Fake dr phil
opaque hinge
Oof
steel fjord
logic that fails to get the point
grave loom
Pretty sure im the real one tbh smile
swift condor
What if Dr Phil was fake all along?
opaque hinge
Naw
latent cairn
I had my stitches removed today Yag
opaque hinge
Phil is bae
swift condor
His name isn't Phil
opaque hinge
Yay
glad lily
I made this :)
swift condor
It's jarred from subway
median raven
Absolute morons
steel fjord
dude said people that like the new TTTK are keyboard warriors. i am just saying that the people that like the new TTK aren't the ones spamming the internet
opaque hinge
Loool
grave loom
It was me :)
viscid crater
Better Netcode + Old TTK 
median raven
Nice life
glad lily
Dont order meatballs from subway, trust me I worked there
opaque hinge
grave loom
but i guess ill take it
opaque hinge
Oof
latent cairn
@steel fjord I didn't say that everyone who likes the new TTK are internet warriors. Please quote where it if you are talking about me.
grave loom
@glad lily id like to order some balls from u
grave loom
undone steppe
the thing is, is the community didnt even ask for it to be changed thats why people are upset
opaque hinge
He dont got no balls to order
median raven
@latent cairn You called me a keyboard warrior because I told you to stop reciting shit you've seen on social media and westies videos
glad lily
@grave loom
median raven
It's boring
grave loom
MOOM SUB
median raven
It's old
grave loom
MOON
steel fjord
[3:31 PM] Nethrex: Eltipi can stick with his keyboard warrior society and slow TTK and the rest of us stick with the TTK we liked
grave loom
POG
opaque hinge
Your boring
severe wraith
@median raven shit he agrees with?
swift condor
Lol
median raven
It's quite frankly shit I don't want to see
opaque hinge
I'm hungry
latent cairn
@median raven I don't recall you telling me that. But I don't follow their social media or watch "Westies videos"
viscid crater
Gotta love the shills
severe wraith
Nobody wants to listen to you or have you listen to them
grave loom
@glad lily any moon subs?
viscid crater
oh no
opaque hinge
glad lily
@grave loom no purple ladies here 
median raven
Dad jokes
latent cairn
@median raven There we have it again... Eltipi disagrees with something, it should not exist
median raven
Hahahahhaha
swift condor
I want a house with a real life train track wrapped around it but we don't all get what we want
grave loom
Ah okay there Better not be cmonBruhhhhhh
opaque hinge
several people are typing
median raven
Try harder next time
grave loom
TriHard
glad lily
7
median raven
Because that was a pretty poor effort
severe wraith
Quite frankly I dont want to hear you say "try harder next time"
icy sluice
Mission Failed, we'll gettem next toime
latent cairn
swift condor
I'm trying
quaint pollen
just try more in the coming attempt @severe wraith
severe wraith
Quite frankly I dont want to hear you say "Because that was a pretty poor effort"
median raven
Ok mr #NotMyTTK
placid quarry
This is #battlefield-legacy-titles , stay on topic or move to #general
viscid crater
Did this just turn into shit talking each other now?
opaque hinge
๐ฟ
quaint pollen
latent cairn
It is about Battlefield Vatsug, the ttk
swift condor
^^^
latent cairn
oh
median raven
Hey can I put that hashtag in my name and wear it with pride too?!
opaque hinge
Fake phil go to class
swift condor
Truth hath been spoketh
viscid crater
@median raven Sure
latent cairn
I see someone went off topic
rose pilot
median raven
I admire your perseverance
opaque hinge
grave loom
what a chad move
placid quarry
Got reports being displeased with he current direction of the chat, I can see you're not all here discussing battlefield related topics
severe wraith
@placid quarry sorry dad
opaque hinge
latent cairn
eltipi report us all?
median raven
I'm displeased with your attitude
swift condor
Lol
undone steppe
lol
opaque hinge
๐จ
median raven
Who do I report that too?
viscid crater
Old TTK + Fixed Netcode. Pump that shit into my veins
severe wraith
You report it too
opaque hinge
Tell dr phil
median raven
Quite frankly I won't do that
swift condor
Got em
quaint pollen
old ttk + fixed netcode + hotfix to dice so they can see whats actually being said instead of what they want to be said plz thx
median raven
Use your brain and see for yourself what is happening
viscid crater
@quaint pollen YAAS
golden hatch
Exactly Suess
swift condor
Is there a CTE thing again?
latent cairn
@rose pilot Am I allowed to "use my brain"? 
viscid crater
More maps while we're at it ๐
severe wraith
Who warned me after I stopped talking lol
median raven
The game needed another 6 months in development
quaint pollen
and ๐ for ๐ the ๐ love ๐ of ๐ god ๐ reduce ๐ scope ๐ glint
swift condor
6 Months.....
viscid crater
Scope glint is sooo bad tbf
undone steppe
and remove it on 3x recon
steel fjord
they pushed the changes to retail because they need a lot of data from all sorts of players
severe wraith
Scope glint is a little too insane lmao
median raven
That's what I said? Do you agree or disagree
viscid crater
Here we go with this "data" shit again
quaint pollen
just remove it from 3x and reduce the cone that determines if its seen by enemy players.
ez pz
glad lily
Buff tanks fix ttk thanks 
lapis hare
buff bombers pls
swift condor
My data says that it shouldn't have been announced if it wasn't fully done
latent cairn
Careful Hoodoo, if you disagree we dont want to see it
I must agree it could have used slightly longer, but not 6 months
viscid crater
consults data .... That's gonna be a hard no Chief
swift condor
Oof
median raven
6 months would be around an adequate time for a full working game
severe wraith
Yep the game shouldn't have been announced
viscid crater
Are you a developer?
undone steppe
according to my data they should have made the new ttk the core conquest
grave loom
im a developer :)
median raven
I'm not a developer but this is more of a mathematical question
snow crater
what new update was released after yesterday
swift condor
I'd rather not know about its release and wait a little longer for something that we can all enjoy
viscid crater
Consults data... I'm afraid people are leaving because they're bad. Let's ruin it for our loyal players. That'll fix it
snow crater
that i need to download now
quaint pollen
maybe if it took 6 more months the team that said "don't like it, don't buy it" would have actually had a quality product to shit on with virtue signaling
severe wraith
Is 6 months a mathematical question
opaque hinge
Hello glorious leader
median raven
No but timescales are numbers
severe wraith
@snow crater omg its kim
opaque hinge
@snow crater
snow crater
stop tagging me
opaque hinge
๐
snow crater
i swear
opaque hinge
What will u do kim
snow crater
30 years labor camp for both of you
lapis hare
north korea dlc soon
opaque hinge
lapis hare
severe wraith
:(
swift condor
Not something you announce then delay because it's not finished
median raven
I'd rather a delay then dropping unfinished product
undone steppe
the new patch fixed the fortifications glorious leader
median raven
It maybe would of helped the EA share price which is bearish
swift condor
Well yeah they should have just released it later
quaint pollen
maybe just pull a bf3 and actually put the time into a quality game instead of shitting on the brand/community with forced "content" 
median raven
Well yeah that's what I said
swift condor
Instead of having to delay the game
steel fjord
consults data people can't aim so need body shots to feel they are good. Let's see what happens when we make people aim better for kills. autistic screeching in the background
novel mason
MP34 Bayonet is my new favorite medic weapon
swift condor
Lmao
viscid crater
Semi auto's got hit the hardest with this TTK honestly. They feels useless.
glad lily
Bayonets are actually ๐ in bf5
viscid crater
Anyone tried the mg42, still the same?