If the ttk ends up like bf1s im just gonna quit
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
indigo harness
BF1 guns were rng
dense bone
higher ttk means less whoever saw who first basically wins, higher ttk means that aim plays a better role, if someone shoots me first but is landing body shots and i crack headshots ill win
higher ttk means more room for teamwork as well
i mean, cod has lower ttk
indigo harness
Its kinda like pubg a HS is high risk high reward
compared to aiming for the chest
solid hinge
The ttk is perfect
midnight nimbus
it's gonna be worse than BF1's
dense bone
ehh, i have no preference
midnight nimbus
like worse than BF1 TTK 1.0
idk if the multiplier is for sharing, but the best i can relate the damage values to is BO4
lucid marsh
At least its just an experiment so far
solid hinge
Just an experiment?
dense bone
clarify, ttk increase benefits mechanically better players
midnight nimbus
to a point
lucid marsh
Aren't they gonna try different things and values to see what'll be the best way to balance ttk and ttd since the system is so intertwined
midnight nimbus
high TTK is fine in a 5v5 game like OW
midnight nimbus
but in a game like BF where you frequently have to deal with multiple players at a time, it's awful
thick berry
and makes the attrition worse
since youre gonna have more gunfights were you get hit back
since you get more time to react
solid hinge
Community : current ttk is fine dice:
lucid marsh
Yeah but
midnight nimbus
i like how BF1 did TTK with a lot of guns though ngl
solid hinge
They should just let dice LA develop the game
midnight nimbus
all the best guns were too hard for shitters to use
dense bone
you should be able to kill mulitple people, you just have to have the skill to do it
solid hinge
Which vehicles suck?
lucid marsh
Community: the ttd is shit uuuh EA change it
dense bone
for me this will reduce camping, or at least their effectiveness
most campers are mechanically poo, they just bank on getting the drop on you while sitting still
now ill have more time to whip around and shoot their cheap faces
solid hinge
It's not like doing a 180 in half a second is actually possible irl
dense bone
well we arent talking about irl are we?
midnight nimbus
too bad increasing TTK causes other problems that also increases camping
like RoF disparity issues
dense bone
i dont see how ttk increase in general causes that problem
midnight nimbus
makes top camp guns (MG42, Suomi, etc.) even better
relative to other guns
at camping scenarios
higher TTK = high RoF guns are even better
dense bone
... but that factor isnt changing
if to camp effectively they have to use higher rof guns that are generally harder to control that sounds like a good trade off
they have to increase their mechanics to make it effective
midnight nimbus
before: Sten 540 RPM 4BTK, Suomi 981 RPM 4BTK = 150ms difference
now: 5BTKs for both = 200ms difference
increasing BTK = RoF disparities get bigger
remote helm
wtf the update glitched and now its stuck at 0m 0s and 656.19 MB / 656.19 MB
solid hinge
Just wait..
dense bone
so again, if higher rof is faster to kill (it should be) then it should be harder to control (which they are)
midnight nimbus
not to mention, you still die as fast as ever
so you can't kill people fast anymore
but you still die fast
remote helm
its been stuck for 10 minutes
dense bone
what the actual fuck are you saying... you still die fast, but you cant kill fast, but you still die fast...
dense bone
that is so full of contradictions i dont even
midnight nimbus
at all
you're still gonna get framed on your end
except now you can't output damage at a reasonable rate
dense bone
this isnt a scenario where ttk and ttd only affects one end
midnight nimbus
it pretty much is
dense bone
...
midnight nimbus
you'll have little to no change in TTD
dense bone
so in a shooter only 1 person is shooting?
midnight nimbus
like for example, you're just gonna get KE7ed in say 4 frames instead of 3 before
high TTK isn't always more skillful
dense bone
since when?
midnight nimbus
it depends on the game
dense bone
that doesnt make sense
midnight nimbus
can't carry over everything from one game to the other
solid hinge
Ttd needs fixing
gray glade
high ttk = fast to kill?
midnight nimbus
in something like Halo, where you have heavy emphasis on movement and tracking, yes it's skillful
gray glade
or slower
solid hinge
Not ttk
dense bone
higher ttk means more time for mechanics, thats an across the board scenario, how does that not apply for everything?
dense bone
guns having predictive patterns and reworked gun mechanics it sure does seem like they do
some guns still need tuning
sudden hedge
tides pass is to ahrd
dense bone
high does not equal slow if damage multipliers for headshots lead to useful benefits
sudden hedge
hard
keen spire
Helllo
gray glade
faster/lower TTK kind of means you have to aim/track the enemy longer, so in a 1v1 it means more aim skill
but it means its more difficult to win 1v2's etc
dense bone
^
midnight nimbus
good thing slow TTK is being passed with zero recoil or spread changes
dense bone
as long as headshots are meaningful it just leads to more emphasis on skill
midnight nimbus
BF isn't really about the 1v1
being able to tackle 2, 3, 4, 5 players is necessary
high TTK in high player count games just makes things zergy
can't bust groups with your gun anymore
gotta rely on nades
dense bone
as someone who constantly flanks, and is always trying to face multiple people, its VERY rare i come up against more than 3 people at a time
no you rely on good aim, headshots, to clear groups
dont expect to clear groups just going for body shots
thick berry
i gotta ask do you remember bf1 before the ttk changes?
dense bone
i shouldnt be able to clear more than 3 people just going for body shots and getting the drop on them
thick berry
like there was no way winning a 1v2 when they had two hands
midnight nimbus
^ people just nade spammed
safest and most efficient
when people no longer feel confident in the 1vX, they won't, and just clump up in the safety of the group
"they can't kill us all"
vehicle MG TTK is untouched though
dense bone
so they are promoting teamwork...
thick berry
and yea since its a % increase most of the time
midnight nimbus
you can just halftrack and mow people down i guess
thick berry
high rof guns are just gonna be better
midnight nimbus
sitting in a blob isn't teamwork
it's asking to get wiped by a vehicle
cucking the individual <<<
dense bone
dont sit?
gray glade
you dont wanna make killing enemy TOO fast so that position becomes everything tho
midnight nimbus
don't clump = wrecked if you hit >1 infy
clump = wrecked if a vehicle swings by
gray glade
but i feel ttk is pretty decent atm
dense bone
and since when is numbers vs a vehicle a bad thing?!
midnight nimbus
yeah, BFV TTK was already fine
if not too slow
numbers vs a vehicle isn't a bad thing, removing player agency is
teamwork is only as good as the individuals that make up the team
strong individuals = strong, flexible teamwork
crisp stone
just unlocked the mp34 should i be taking the larger mag or the higher firerate
dense bone
teamwork >>>>> individual skills
idk how many games i have played that i was on a team and we were all mechanically very good, but we would come against a team that had incredible teammwork and we got wrecked
you cant just throw all the top players on 1 team and expect them to dominate, teamwork goes very far
midnight nimbus
design doesn't have to be binary
teamwork >= individual skill
bad individuals = everything is too binary
either clump to the max or don't
dense bone
theres so many example of super teams that just ddint perform to their expectation because the teamwork wasnt there
and the ones that do work, always comment on how they worked well together as a team
midnight nimbus
you can have good teamwork and good individualism
teams are only as good as the individuals that make them up
midnight nimbus
look at SYM in BF3
gray sleet
I remember one idiot in bf4 who pushed a point by blindly running through a hall where we were tossing grenades at each other.
midnight nimbus
don't need top players to win, but players need to be good enough as individuals
gray sleet
The game was clutch but one retarded act gave us the win
dense bone
what the actual fuck... you just said team are only as good as the individuals, then say you dont need top players to win..
which means, teamwork>individual skills
opaque hinge
dense bone
yes, you cant be complete ass mechanically and expect to perform, but that doesnt negate teamwork>individuals
opaque hinge
azure vault
there's no way to switch teams right
crisp stone
good 2 guys using hack as theyre clan tag in my game this is nice
charred heron
What? Teamwork in a shooter with individual classes that kind of need each other?
solid hinge
good that im still using premier, that way i wont have wasted 70 bucks if they fuck up the game tomorrow
midnight nimbus
no, it's an example of teamwork >= individual skill
teamwork shouldn't always outweigh individual skill
pubtards should still lose to mechanically superior players
opaque hinge
🍿
dense bone
who said that should happen...
solid hinge
'pubtards' won't be utilizing teamwork in the first place
sacred hull
cant wait for the new head gear upgrade
midnight nimbus
what's the point of having a FPS community if you make your game unrewarding of mechanical skill
sacred hull
that will look sexy on my support
dense bone
who said to do that?
midnight nimbus
you
icy sluice
Got the Union Jacked Gas Mask on my Assault
midnight nimbus
"teamwork should always outweigh individual skill"
sacred hull
thats rly nice too
dense bone
doesnt increasing ttk make mechanically better players have a better chance?
midnight nimbus
not in BF
dense bone
...
midnight nimbus
relaaa can't 1v5 tards with terrible TTK
dense bone
if youre gonna quote something, make sure ACTUALLY quoting
sacred hull
the quick ttk is very nice
dense bone
headshots
solid hinge
you run out of bullets?
icy sluice
exactly
solid hinge
just be support then
dense bone
did they get rid of headshots in bfv?
sacred hull
no
solid hinge
more bullet
icy sluice
ur soldier does have a helmet system sort a thing
icy sluice
no
icy sluice
There's no helmet system
sacred hull
no
i mean it isnt a 1 shot headshot system
as if ur wearing a helmet
oh dw if u dont get it u dont get it
midnight nimbus
remember BF1 TTK 1.0 when your CQB weapons sucked at CQB and the long range guns sucked at long range
dense bone
its not that any gun can 1 shot headshot and any range
sacred hull
headshots just do more damage
i think ttk now is perfect
gives the game a more tactical feel
dense bone
i didnt play bf1
sacred hull
you have to actually think when you push
dense bone
that was a bad game
dense bone
bleh
opaque hinge
It was bad
opaque hinge
Bf1 gave me aids
dense bone
nade spamming vehicle abusing game
midnight nimbus
> nade spamming vehicle abusing game
got news for you with new BFV TTK lol
solid hinge
bf1 bruh
dense bone
ttk increase dont increase nades or vehicles...
midnight nimbus
makes them more abusable
sacred junco
Being insta killed in cq is inevitable, but I wish recoil was more meaningful enough that people with good enough aim can't super bullet someone with semi automatics in midrange
dense bone
no it doesnt
strong parrot
just end me....team cant even hold 2 points on devastation ...meanwhile people are bitching in chat about medic being bad...once again im top fragging and end the game with 22k score, 2k more than the highest enemy...and 48-18 
midnight nimbus
nades are way better than guns for 1vX now
sacred junco
nade launchers are good
sacred hull
like they're supposed to
midnight nimbus
look at BFH: nades were like mini nukes, but not spammy bc people felt confident in their guns due to fast TTK
dense bone
nades are not easily available and lethal, thats what contributes to nade spam
midnight nimbus
same with BF3
midnight nimbus
vehicles are abusable as ever once new TTK drops
sacred hull
i think if the ttk was a little slower it would be more fun
i just hate being 3 shot by an lmg with laser aim
dense bone
less skill involved is more fun
sacred hull
exactly
ill go play csgo if i want a game that involves skill
ffs
i play bf if i wanna have a laugh or play in an open map with friends
like
solid hinge
thats TTD
sacred hull
oh ffs there's practically no difference
dense bone
ttd and ttk are tied together
sacred hull
exactly
midnight nimbus
lol
dense bone
they are not exclusive
charred heron
But making a game too easy prevents people from wanting to get any skill at all
solid hinge
the discrpenacy between ttk and ttd is extreme in some cases
dense bone
yes
icy sluice
midnight nimbus
you're just gonna get insta dropped slightly slower
sacred hull
yeah
sacred junco
its basically the same thing. doesn't matter too much when you can kill someone with 2 bullets in 300 rpm with a headshot anyways
solid hinge
like
dense bone
my god people dont know the definition of words
sacred hull
kht why the fuck do you play this game then
midnight nimbus
BFV has interesting gunplay
sacred hull
lol
solid hinge
Now dice is most likely gonna fuck that up
sacred hull
ttk is perfect atm
dense bone
because people like to cry at everything
midnight nimbus
new spread system is kinda good
sacred hull
slower would be preferable if they were to change it
quicker would kill this game quick for me
solid hinge
Because we know dice by now nyphon
sacred hull
ill go play pubg if i want realism
solid hinge
no one is gonna give them the benefit of the doubt
dense bone
yet you still play the game
solid hinge
my premier runs out in a few days
midnight nimbus
a few fun guns in a terrible wrapper
solid hinge
if they fuck it up im just gonna play soemthing else
dense bone
good
midnight nimbus
like M1907 is really good
solid hinge
lmao what
midnight nimbus
gg nuking the player base
solid hinge
Ofc the community should complain
solid hinge
If a developer changes something that most people agree on is fine
dense bone
which is the case a lot of the times
midnight nimbus
making guns in a shooter painful to use
actually not every gun gets turned into trash
potent galleon
How do u unlock some skins with special assigments?
midnight nimbus
just cheese people with ZH-29 since they can't do anything about it
dense bone
because a bunch of randoms think something is fine doesnt mean theres no room for improvement
maiden steppe
i like how kht goes back and forth on his opinion of the gunplay like every week
solid hinge
and you are not a random?
midnight nimbus
it's a great system
sacred junco
I dunno. I feel like people don't complainabout ttk becuase they like getting frags but not getting fragged
midnight nimbus
with frequently poor implementation
dense bone
i am a random, i dont have strong feelings one way or another, they are giving options to play both for feedback, sounds fine by me
midnight nimbus
24/7 SDEC is what many other shooters do
it's the only part of BFV that actually improved significantly
solid hinge
Dice sweden has repeatedly shown that they dont care about feedback
dense bone
i like higher ttk since it leads to better mechanical players having more room to show their skill, but im not complaining one way or another
especially without playing it myself
dense bone
they dont care about feedback, but are having two modes for different ttk's
that...
wow
solid hinge
For now
midnight nimbus
two different modes for attrition when
dense bone
for them to have 2 modes they had to have feedback involved
you cant say they dont care about feedback when they are actively showing they are listening
they didnt just outright change it
thats not listening
they toned down cosmetics from listening
maiden steppe
in theory a recoil-increase system sounds nice. burst control should be encouraged if you literally have trouble keeping your sights on target, not because your gun barrel gets arbitrarily jacked after firing for too long
dense bone
they changed from bf1 nade spam vehicle abuse to what we have now from listening
maiden steppe
in practice this recoil increase looks so lax that it might as well be a linear recoil system
i barely notice any FSM or recoil increase on some of the guns that I fired in the practice range
dense bone
ffs because they give you two options for game mode, one with new ttk, they arent listening?
that makes no sense
solid hinge
didnt they already propose changes to the ttk 2 weeks ago? Most people said they dont want it changed
2 weeks later: BUT HEY THERES MORE
dense bone
how strong is your blind hate?
maiden steppe
I just don't want Battlefield to turn into another Planetside 2
solid hinge
hate?
midnight nimbus
recoil increase already exists in BFV
solid hinge
what
maiden steppe
where it takes like 7-8 bodyshots to kill
solid hinge
fuck off
unique thunder
Calm down
solid hinge
i have played the game since EA
midnight nimbus
recoil acceleration exists for vrec
solid hinge
I actually like the game you know
midnight nimbus
not for hrec
solid hinge
I just dont want to see dice fucking it up
dense bone
so why are you so adamant at painting dice as tyrants that dont listen when the game is where it is now purely from listening?
maiden steppe
well, if there's recoil acceleration then I barely notice unless I'm firing off like half of my mag at once
dense bone
they want to push ttk, they give us options
and you literally still say they dont listen at all
fucking up would be pushing their ttk out and saying deal with it
midnight nimbus
recoil acceleration is to match spread increase
dense bone
instead, they give you the option and people still cry
maiden steppe
giving an option just sounds like splitting the playerbase unnecessarily to me
sacred hull
how
novel mason
I just don't think I've seen anyone mention the TTK in a while because we all adapted to it. I don't think anyone really asked for this change over everything else this past week.
sacred hull
the fuck do i get company coins
dense bone
this is literally one of the better scenarios of a dev believing in what they want to do and trying to please the playerbase
maiden steppe
so then why not have recoil acceleration apply to hrec as well
the type of recoil that's about as unpredictable as spread on a high RoF weapon
that's so stupid that it doesn't apply lol
dense bone
i hate the idea that players have to ask for stuff for devs to do it...
not even ask, approve
midnight nimbus
recoil acceleration applying to hrec would wreck weapon balance
and add screen shake
makes the game nauseating
hrec as a flat number line with uniform distribution is fine
unless DICE wanted to untie point of aim from the center of the screen
which makes increasing hrec kinda ok
maiden steppe
already works great in PUBG and Siege, and those games are still able to sustain pro scenes and simultaneously be satisfying at a casual level
midnight nimbus
but then people complain "not shooting where I aim"
PUBG and Siege don't require weapon balance
like at all
maiden steppe
company coin is still bugged lol
haven't been able to spec some newer weapons after buying skins for my favorites
sacred hull
hopefully its fixed
maiden steppe
sometimes I get rewarded but it's not consistent with the end of match rewards screen
azure vault
assignments and dailies
maiden steppe
i don't have any more assignments that reward me company coin
azure vault
so
brittle cloud
fuking mouse cursor bug as wqell
azure vault
the other part of the thing i said
sacred hull
you are confirming that it is a bug and we will receive company coin soon
hushed mulch
lol tinch
sinful crane
So what Servers rules exactly is the M1907 SF violating? I get that error message when I try to spawn with it...
solid hinge
if you guys just main one class, you wouldn't need more coins :^)
azure vault
support for life
remote helm
The silver 1911 is eh
solid hinge
Battlefield 5 was rocky to being a disaster now that the new ttk changes are coming
Amazing
novel mason
Just a bug afaik @sinful crane
sinful crane
Depending on server or just in general?
novel mason
What do you mean
solid hinge
it happens when you change attachments while ingame
sinful crane
Man, that is bullshit.
sinful crane
Didn't worked there. Spawned as Medic, got killed, same shit. But if I change onto any other weapon, it works
solid hinge
different class
remote helm
They need country specific squad calla only germans get the v1 brits get a artilery of 12 pounders and (when added) americans get a bombing run of a b-17 their med bomber would be the b-25 and fighter p-51/p-47
azure vault
changing assignments ingame when
remote helm
Infinity
azure vault
remote helm
true light
Fucking honestly
I hate the plane skill trees
because after a while you can't do shit because everyone on max level shreds you
remote helm
Ju 88s cant hold that many bombs
true light
I died in three seconds to one of the germ fighters
true light
I was in the VA (?) spitfire
remote helm
When i play bf 109 it takes 9 years to kill a brit bomber and 17 for the spitfire
remote helm
Exactly
azure vault
maybe ill go martini-henry style on it
remote helm
Vgo for some reason after my second reload it slows down in rpm
primal sage
You know what tactic seems to work?
When in a tank?
Playing Dead/Abandoned.
If you stop moving entirely and act like you bailed...people seem to start ignoring you.
azure vault
playing dead, tank or no tank, works waaay better than i expected
i v2'ed myself, a flakpanzer, and two squads capping on hamada that way
primal sage
v2'd?
solid hinge
v1
solid hinge
v2 is 4x as big lol
azure vault
id have recorded it but nvidia likes to reset shadowplay preferences when there's a driver update
rip
solid hinge
pretty sure the Ju-88
prime scarab
any of those (folder names) similar sounding to a bomber?
gray glade
stuka is a bomber
charred heron
No, that bomber is british
prime scarab
Stuka is a bomber? thank you
solid hinge
the blenheim is a similar sounding bomber
charred heron
German bombers have the iron cross under their wings too
gray glade
yeah
charred heron
It's prolly the Blen
gray glade
blenheim is a british bomber
charred heron
Yeah, it's the Blen
solid hinge
hells yea
subtle cloak
i love how half the players quit when it goes from Aerodrome to Narvik... cuz Narvik map fucking sucks
so does Fjell
Aerodrome great map tho
strong parrot
i find aero is better from the brit side because you usually get C for free
charred heron
Hamada is way worse
solid hinge
what's the best kuomi specializations
azure vault
fjell sucks? thats the first time ive heard that
strong parrot
because its your third cap
solid hinge
the only map i dont enjoy too much is Arras other than that they all pretty nice
azure vault
hamada is my 2nd favorite behind panzerstorm
strong parrot
rof buff just makes it a bullet hose hip firing
solid hinge
for which gun tho?
prime scarab
please help me identify the weapon
azure vault
xmag on mg-42
strong parrot
AylaToday at 6:22 PM what's the best kuomi specializations
solid hinge
I did say it!
oh my bad
if you wanna hipfire go fast fire
I'm guessing there's better smgs for big magging
may as well go max hipfire shred
yea the thompson gets 50 i think
gray glade
@prime scarab it says krag-jörgensen on the picture, so im guessing its that one 😃
dense bone
suomiii
solid hinge
big speed
solid hinge
krag is my 2nd fav sniper tbh
since you can't get a shotgun i guess this is the closest ill get
dense bone
support has shotgun
azure vault
drilling for life
solid hinge
I can't use shotgun on an lmg class it feels wrong
prime scarab
damn it, I dont have the krag in the sound files
what sniper rifle sounds the most similar to the krag?
when firing?
dense bone
ill probably main the drilling at some point, seems so fun
prime scarab
I have kar98k
dense bone
medic xD
solid hinge
Solveigs knife ❤
dense bone
doesnt it just change animation
solid hinge
are the stats actually different?
nah just my fav
I'd guess the knife is faster while the hatchet does more damage and the club is in the middle?
dont think the melee's have different stats
solid hinge
oh neat
gray glade
maybe you should sleep slendy 😄
solid hinge
oh wow the VGO has a high fire rate
prime scarab
i should, but the deadline for the recruitment challenge is tomorrow
and I need to finish my edit
Even tho I'm so tired and have a headache lol
gray glade
what recruitment challenge?
prime scarab
the Ascend Battlefield recruitment challenge
gray glade
good luck!
river nacelle
will u ever be able to unlock more gold scopes for snipers? not really a great reward getting a gold iron sight on a sniper rifle
strong parrot
joined a narvik couple mins into it...go 38-6 with a score of 15.6k apparently im a hacker
mp40 just too damn op
prime scarab
Thank you! @gray glade
sleek tartan
still looking for help eh slendy
azure vault
Xx not sure xX
brittle cloud
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck ! Why is panzerfaust BUGGED !
how can dice fuckup so badly ffs 😦
worn cave
Why can't DICE just make an announcement like,
"We've been listening to your feedback and we've decided to make x specific changes to x weapons affecting the TTK in this way, and roll out the first iterations of hardcore mode"
sleek tartan
what's the best secondary?
-Reloading
worn cave
like what's so hard about being concrete, it would only be good for them
sleek tartan
all secondaries suck.
solid hinge
that's a little harder with a 6x scope
worn cave
@sleek tartan Webley headshots disagree
sleek tartan
rip
rocky verge
PO8 is good
worn cave
Ruby and revolver are all I can tolerate using lol
solid hinge
isn't the p08 just a worse p38
rocky verge
I use po8 for german and m1911 silver for allies
rocky verge
The webley is allight as well
worn cave
Ruby makes a good recon secondary, I use it for every class rn though
brittle cloud
For some reason 1911 got nerfed from BF1 to BF5 because that makes fucking sense lol
sleek tartan
man its horrible, it needs like 5 bullets to kill at 15m
sleek tartan
(and its a revolver)
solid hinge
which do you think would be best for recon and which would be best for finishing off someone when you're out of ammo (every other class)
sleek tartan
M1911 is the only one I think doesnt really suck
hazy gust
What's your main? I use sniper
hazy gust
🅱️epic
sleek tartan
midnight nimbus
all sidearms got nerfed between BF1 and BFV
hazy gust
Oof
midnight nimbus
BF4 to BF1 nerf was already brutal
midnight nimbus
but at least BF1 revolvers could dunk on people up close
strong parrot
is there something wrong with the po8 that makes it suck? 
midnight nimbus
bad damage output
strong parrot
insane spamming ability even from hip fire even better than a 1911..
rocky verge
The p38 is just shit the Po8 is decent
midnight nimbus
1911 has better DPS
viscid cypress
The BFV Revolver one shot headshots up close, I don't know what you're talking about.
midnight nimbus
all sidearms have the same hipspread formula
rocky verge
I love the krag Jorgensen who else likes it?
midnight nimbus
low RoF = way more accurate from the hip
sleek tartan
damage drop off in all pistols is insane
midnight nimbus
high RoF accumulates hipspread too quick
sleek tartan
you are usually better off going for a melee kill
midnight nimbus
yeah, 7m Ruby 4BTK
sleek tartan
and im not kidding
midnight nimbus
brutal
strong parrot
you can melee kill from 10 feet away? 👀
sleek tartan
jump-slide-melee
rocky verge
Combat medic extend the range not that much i think
sleek tartan
I mean, in some sense I feel like pistols in Bf1 were very strong up close
and maybe op????? idk, but I always enjoyed them
would rather that than this
sleek tartan
I used to play with the .44 Magnum in BF4 and snipe people with it when it could one shot you from 35m
then it got nerfed to 30
then to 12
gray glade
magnum 44 was after ww2
sleek tartan
@gray glade there were plenty of long revolvers since western times
it's the second gun developed after the rifle it self
novel mason
Battlefield 1899 when
strong parrot
rockstar already has that genre on lock down
solid hinge
Why is the p08 better than the p38 when the stats says the p08 is worse
gray glade
@sleek tartan im sure there were, but magnum 44 itself was designed in the 50's afaik
rocky verge
Guys i have a plan we just need the money and safecracker speculs-Dutch
strong parrot
did i mess the p08 up...think i meant the luger was gud
rocky verge
novel mason
TAHITI
midnight nimbus
P38 and P08 are pretty much statistically identical
solid hinge
the stats says they're like.. almost exactly the same
midnight nimbus
P08 has one less round in the mag and a slightly faster reload if you still have one in the chamber
solid hinge
Really?
strong parrot
so many hidden stats
midnight nimbus
that's literally it
solid hinge
that's kinda small
midnight nimbus
read the files i guess
tropic nest
That’s what she said
solid hinge
it'd be nice to actually know that on the page though
sometimes on console you just gotta hope and pray
gray glade
the luger (p08) looks way cooler imo
solid hinge
How's the repetierpistole compared to the ruby
just use the revolver
its a 2 shot kill in cqb
midnight nimbus
yeah, only really close up though
midnight nimbus
2BTK range is so inconsistent
solid hinge
I'll probably take that for dedicated recon secondary
gray glade
i wonder how they're gonna change the ttk tomorrow
strong parrot
isnt that pistol complete shit like it was in bf1?
gray glade
anyone heard?
midnight nimbus
short min ranges on guns is painful
strong parrot
because of the stupid long reload
solid hinge
why would you use your sidearm at longer ranges
midnight nimbus
pistols are more shit than BF1 pistols
not longer ranges, min BTK just needs to be long enough to be consistent across a room
solid hinge
For a quick finisher the ruby or repetierpistole looks best though
midnight nimbus
which it isn't
solid hinge
they could at least give the liberator some more damage..
brittle cloud
Guys if u lose sound while u are in the vehicle dont worry, once u die the sound is back, best bug ever..........
gray glade
decent pistols are definately needed for mmg users
solid hinge
I'd take a high damage one shot secondary
grave loom
Just had my best round yet Feelsgoodman
solid hinge
What was the 10 GB update today?
brittle cloud
it wasnt 10gb
it was just 650mb
it was preloading 15gb for mee
then just downlaoded 650mb
solid hinge
What was it
craggy estuary
bug fixes
brittle cloud
"bug fixes" introduced more bugs then fixed hahahha
rocky verge
^^
craggy estuary
or you could look at the #game-news chat @solid hinge
solid hinge
@craggy estuary too easy
what vehicle loadouts do you guys have?
I'm thinking smallest and biggest and anti-air
the revolver 1 shots people in the head
to like 5m away
brittle cloud
revolver is beast
strong parrot
deagle on pistols only locker
solid hinge
id take a big ass revolver over the deagle any day
but thats just me
@solid hinge what do you mean?
strong parrot
i never had good luck with the revolvers honestly
solid hinge
@solid hinge the three vehicles you can have equipped at once
depends on what you are using
strong parrot
people complain the tiger isnt gud
solid hinge
and what you want to do with them
strong parrot
and the pz38t is better
solid hinge
at what?
I'm thinking about using the smallest one for anti infantry, the biggest one for anti tank and the anti air option
i mean
remote harbor
Hey I have the second highest kd on xbox you all suck
solid hinge
if you want anti infantry use the light tank and get the autocannon upgrade
strong parrot
so youre like 60th percentile on PC then 
strong parrot
anti infantry? i thought that was the bofors on the crusader
strong parrot
the tiger is faster up hill than the fucking wirbel...
solid hinge
dude
i have no idea what the crusader is
wirble is fucking scary
the crusader is the brit AA
that has a canister shell
strong parrot
unlike the quad 20s that just tickle infantry
thin apex
Be nice if we had things like the Flakpanzer Coelian
strong parrot
suddenly im playing war thunder again
thin apex
or if you are @solid hinge You just need your glorious battle trucks with 50 cals
strong parrot
m16 when?
strong parrot
come at my infantry and planes
limber anchor
We need the RPD right now
solid hinge
i use the 109 with explosive rounds
and for the spit
i use the one with RP-3s
the mosquito is pretty good
remote helm
We need the canadian quad 50cal sherman
strong parrot
yall gunna be crying when the p47 comes in..
solid hinge
i was thinking mk vb spitfire, mk if blenheim and mosquito
brittle cloud
whats the ETA for week two boys ???
regal sapphire
remote helm
Best plane the ju 87 stuka and that siren
solid hinge
then the ju-88 and 109 G-6 and b-2 stuka
brittle cloud
12th of December is now, when is WEEK 2 LIVE ???
novel mason
Not in america :P
strong parrot
if they gave the 50cals their performance it would be cancer
2x 500lb bombs 1x 1000 12? rockets and 8 50cals
novel mason
Also it starts on the 13th
solid hinge
The vehicles certainly get a lot better with specializations
brittle cloud
@novel mason "These changes will roll out globally across all servers starting on Wednesday, December 12th."
worn juniper
is that true thas the support class weapon are to op ?
the first weapon
that*
the lmg i think
novel mason
KE7 Is the best SMG lel
solid hinge
yup
worn juniper
i see a video from a youtuber with this and explain it
tribal ledge
Ke7 = smg lol
worn juniper
no lmg ?
novel mason
Yea. Not so much the Sten & MP40 though.
tribal ledge
Nah
worn juniper
yes i hear the Ke7 got mor rate of fire
tribal ledge
They're garbage
No
It does not
Ke7 os better at medium to long range
Medics SMGs are the best weapons in the game at close quarters
worn juniper
dosnt matter .. allegedly next patch the Ke7 got downgrade ?!
tribal ledge
Att medium range the STG 44 also rivals KE7
worn juniper
cause stronger and at the mostly weapon of medium and londistance
solid hinge
the sten feels unpleasant to use after the ke7
worn juniper
yes
worn juniper
feels like no recoil on the youtube video
novel mason
I wonder if specific nerfs/buffs will come with the TTK changes
dreamy lintel
i just want some variety in the smgs, it's either fast rpm, or slow rpm
mp40 at any range, suomi/thompson for cqb.
novel mason
Yea. Feels like the class got shafted by having no new weapons with the chapter, and having only one weapon type lol. Keeps getting singled out and punished
worn juniper
i play mostly recon
solid hinge
Battlefield 1942 is the best, fight me.
dreamy lintel
i can wreck people with the suomi, i prefer it to the thompson w/e, then anything beyond close range you just use the mp40, the slow rpm smgs are very boring.
worn juniper
often i think a lot of ppl dont play smart.
playing like 13 old kids in CoD MW 2
dont think smart, dont think support , teamplay . nothing at mostly
with randmon guys
tribal ledge
Recon is so fucking g useless in BF V
Most sniper rifles either require instant headshot to rival LMGs
tribal ledge
Or very accurate for the model 8
solid hinge
i get one shotted all the time
can we STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING ABOUT EVERY LITTLE DETAIL
tribal ledge
No we can't
worn juniper
if u get a header , so yes mewt
dreamy lintel
thing for me is, every other class besides medic has some variety, with the medic it's just, close the distance with smoke and use the suomi, or be bored to death with the other slow fire smgs.
solid hinge
honestly the guns are almost perfect
you're unbalanced
bitch
what yall complaining about
im a medic main
tribal ledge
Recons being an e tire class being useless is not a smal detail
solid hinge
i fucking full auto killed someone longer range with smg
git gud
now you're just spewing nonsense
hidden dove
Recon is not useless
solid hinge
you want fucking useless?
recon is useless in pub play. i dont want recons on my team unless we're doing comp BF
those people who complain that laying supressive fire prone is camping
that's fucking useless
novel mason
I think medic's guns are fine, I just wish they either felt different, or the class had a second weapon type. @solid hinge
solid hinge
i learned the bullet paths for the sten
so im fine
To be honest can't you use recon for spotting>
you can learn medic guns after 10 hours at least
So, you have a bomber on your squad
dreamy lintel
so the sten is better than the mp40, as a medic main for range?
solid hinge
and you tell your recon to spot targets for the bomber
i remember in a game called soldier front 2. i was using famas before it became a popular weapon in comp play
yes
sten is really good imo
im sticking to it
better than tommy
thin apex
@solid hinge While spotting does help the bomber, the icon is quite small from the air.
solid hinge
i can long range with sten if they dont fire at same time
perhaps
but nevertheless noticeable
at least on PC
worn juniper
hidden dove
Sten is the llama gun at long range, just spitting at the enemy
solid hinge
it's still an unprecendented depth of detail I've never seen in a BF game
you can spot tanks directly right?
that sort of shit where player controlled airstrikes were possible was only in arma
spotting is useless imo
worn juniper
a useless sniper player
solid hinge
just tell your squad where things are at
A flare gun is 500 times better than the spotting scope
using spotting feature is such a specific situation thing
worn juniper
spotting is not useless. i do it so often so in important moments
hidden dove
Spotting with flares is good, in specific maps, scope is really good in other maps then
solid hinge
spotting isnt what it was like in BF4 and such. i spot maybe 1-2 times a match
if you can see people with the scope you can usually shoot them
in BF4 i spotted like 2034398245934589 times
worn juniper
i spotted a lot in bf5
solid hinge
I like that you don't spam spot anymore
spotting is balanced
it's a good improvement over BF4
worn juniper
you cant say everybody play same style as u
hidden dove
Or just spam flares from a crate
worn juniper
the medic boy dont heal u. thats impotant shit
solid hinge
Best strat always
hidden dove
So enemy cant really push to middle in devastation
solid hinge
recon should be the spotting kings. make them useful
i wish the medic crate wasn't so shit
in BF spotting was so relevent that BF4 was literally built upon it
lol
BF4 was SPOT SPOT SPOT LOOK AT MINIMAP
Yeah it becomes a different game
it'd also be nice to have another sniper class that was based around spotting
worn juniper
i dont no it be honest
solid hinge
Like, bf4 eventually didin't become casual
BF4 having the minimap the size of half the screen lol
it became this game of cat and mouse
worn juniper
because i played always hardcore
solid hinge
so we have the pathfinder and sniper but we could have some kinda spotting one too
it just turned into something else
i really dont see the incentive for using the spotting scope right now
recon should be the spotters. so they can tell squad mates where important people are at
i'd like to have recon on squad then
and it makes sense
sniper. they can see
radio in people and vehicles
worn juniper
thats the mostly arguments
solid hinge
which map do you get snogubbe on?
worn juniper
at first . hit the guy one shot on however away from you . on instant move
solid hinge
ooh wait is it broken
solid hinge
this game is pretty close to be really good across the board in gameplay. they just need content to keep trinkling in
then it could become best bf since 4
worn juniper
best move is he says the counter the sniper guy if u headshot
one .. two .. three ..
Lords player is still missing at least. sick
pastel heath
is bf4 down for anyone else
sullen mist
Does the Rattenburner assignment start now?
novel mason
final river
when I take someone's dog tags... uhm phrasing... do I unlock anything? do they go in a collection?
novel mason
Iirc you can click on them in the dogtag menu and it'll say "times collected" or something like that
solid hinge
is there some way to get the xp even though you couldn't do it
novel mason
Nope. I would definitely contact support before it ends though
final river
oh alright, so they dont have players names on them or anything like tht
novel mason
I don't believe so, but I think that'd be neat
final river
thanks
novel mason
:(
final river
does anyone know a good tutorial to learn dog fighting
novel mason
@solid hinge https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/
Maybe this
final river
in planes.. not real dogs
pastel heath
LOL
midnight nimbus
BFV spotting 🤮
solid hinge
Thank you!
midnight nimbus
besides support being able to do it
pastel heath
Watch history channel
That'll make you an ace
jk, that'll make you a conspiracy theorist these days
final river
i already learned everything i did from the wiki on dog fighting IRL 😛
novel mason
For sure! I've heard they're pretty helpful when it comes to stuff like this, but I'd be very interested to hear your results if you contact them @solid hinge (:
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novel mason
Ah, there ya go. I tried but my roleless ass couldn't summon the bot
novel mason
It's the thought that counts
solid hinge
hopefully that helps