I wonder when hardcore and private servers come about, also I wonder what hardcore will be like
#battlefield-legacy-titles
bright spoke
mossy badge
Recons everywhere
solid hinge
cancer
i used to play hardcore because no 3d spotting and lower ttk
but now we got that by default
im happy
woven lake
why hardcore bloody gone
flint haven
I completed all the m1907 assignments and didn't got the muzzle golden wtf
any suggestions how to fix the bug?
woven lake
restart game
bright spoke
Yeah I agree hardcore with the lowered ttk and no 3D spotting, I hope at least, that in hardcore that sniper kills will be one shot to the chest and then everything else predominantly the same if not a tad quicker to kill. Also with 3D spotting off snipers will have a harder time spotting enemies that don’t want to be seen so MMGs and other lmgs can get set up without a dorito above their head for everyone to shoot at, would be a slower game in general because not everyone will be rushing cause that would just be obvious and a quick kill. Thoughts?
solid hinge
people still play Battlefield 5 😮
bright spoke
😲
worn juniper
the coins to earn on BF are very bad
some skins are little to much expensive too and you cant skill all ur weapon max. u must choice wisley at the moment
vale spindle
They are gonna lower the skin prices @worn juniper
midnight nimbus
lol current BFV TTK is like near identical to Beta
and BFV TTK isn't low at all by modern BF standards
unique thunder
I love the current ttk. Only problem I have is often feeling like I die to a single bullet from guns that don't kill in a single bullet
midnight nimbus
TTD bug
unique thunder
Yep
outer oxide
Mp-34 with reflex is bae
unique thunder
Ttk and ttd are related in a way. If you have a high enough ttk the server can sometimes get away with delivering damage in a couple of stages. It still feels inconsistent but it's not always a one hit kill. This happens in bo4 a lot at the moment
The whole point is to make them the same
Ttk and ttd should feel identical
Likewise with a low enough ttk you can get away with buggy ttd because no one notices
tribal ledge
unique thunder
What like?
solid hinge
I would only give this game a second attempt if my beloved bolt-actions got improved. In the current state of the game it is only sensible to play either as an assault or support which are both classes I am not interested in.
west plinth
Well, then don't play. It's simple, really.
midnight nimbus
weapon balance is really good rn
some of the best in the BF series
but yeah, BAs kinda suck in BFV
just ZH-29 instead
solid hinge
Well assault and support players just want an easy game. And due to a lack of recoil they got it. And they even thing they are good and skilled. But actually guns in Battlefield 5 are so easy to be played with. Especially assault rifles and LMGs.
The ZH-29 is a decent gun however it gets old real quick if there is only one sensible weapon to choose from.
west plinth
Don't quite get what the problem is with bolt action rifles, but eh, gotta whine about something, I guess?
solid hinge
The problem is that it is not rewarded to use them offensively. And another problem is that LMGs and assault rifles are just too effective at distance.
ive seen other games with TTD problems like BFV
you shoot them a billion times
you die in one hit
it isnt unique to this game
game just isnt telling us we are being shot at until we die
west plinth
Well, hit headshots and LMGs/ARs won't be able to kill you 🤷
solid hinge
i dont use lmgs and ars. im medic main
@west plinth I would really like to get your Origin name in order to look up your stats.
west plinth
Refering to Maggi
solid hinge
ive had moments where i just dropped and it wasnt even a headshot the person placed on me. it just shows me i got killed from seemly one bullet
You are probably one of those guys that abuse the assault or the support and are not even good at that.
west plinth
What would you define as "abusing" support?
solid hinge
Just give me your name on Origin so that I cann look up your stats in order to see if you opinion on things even matters.
west plinth
Lawl
west plinth
DrTollwut, go ahead, have your fieldday.
@opaque cipher Because apparently stats validate opinions 🤷
opaque cipher
solid hinge
Because probably he has not even played as a scout and thinks he knows everything about that class.
west plinth
Nah, I am a shit scout.
solid hinge
I can play every class but assault and support are too easy, the medic is boring due to a lack of versatility and the scout's only decent gun is the ZH-29.
west plinth
...suuure.
opaque cipher
Pretty sure support are meant to be effective all around
Putting rounds down range like they’re suppose to
grave loom
so youre saying the game is bad because in your opinion some classes are too easy?
solid hinge
Yes, because there is no point in playing other classes than assault and support any more.
opaque cipher
Hopefully better if they get carbines
west plinth
There's no point in playing another class than medic, because he is the only one that can heal fully. Proove me wrong.
solid hinge
The medic is a bad class in this game since most battles take place in distances between 25-50m. And at those ranges all assault weapons are way better.
west plinth
But a squad with 4 medics will eventually win because they can revive each other, fully heal and smoke to close the distance. Medic > Assault.
solid hinge
But such a squad does not exist.
opaque cipher
3 medic 1 support tbh
west plinth
@opaque cipher Nah, mate, support is too easy 😉
opaque cipher
Right
unique thunder
I keep wanting a decent semi auto ranged gun when I play Medic but do appreciate not wanting to make the class too good
wild oxide
I mean, I was in a couple matches before where half the team was Medics, we consistently won by a difference of 200+ tickets
opaque cipher
Tfw support are decent for once and now everyone hates us
unique thunder
The circle of life mate
Stuff gets buffed, stuff gets nerfed, people complain and judge
midnight nimbus
"lack of recoil"
you do know BFV has the highest recoil of any BF game, right?
besides like BF Hardline
solid hinge
I do not feel any recoil on PC.
west plinth
And now it's snipers coming from BF1 who wanna cry about their sweetspot, so assault and support are the OP "too easy" classes 🤷
Must be your godlike ability, I guess 🤷
charred heron
Playing BF1 in retrospective of BFV i can't seem to notice that the netcode in BF1 is incredibly awful
solid hinge
I actually like the M.95 in Battlefield 1 which had no sweet-spot
charred heron
No problem in BFV with a 30 ping
But BF1? Lags everytime there's an enemy in front of me
With the same ping
west plinth
Ah, then you should be used to aiming for heads. No problem in BF:V then
solid hinge
Well there is a problem since other classes have become far more effective at ranges. And bolt-actions still got nerfed much, even the M.95.
solid hinge
bring back the sweet spot
west plinth
What about them got nerfed? Headshots still 1HK, so it shouldn't make a difference if you manage to hit your shots, as you only need 1 bullet compared to 4-5
Fuck no, let sweet spot rot in hell.
solid hinge
lol
i knew that would be response
But body shots deal way less damage and you cannot even finsih most of the enemies with you pistol any more properly.
class not viable as it stands
opaque cipher
I miss being barely outside sweetspot range and living with 1 hp tbh
solid hinge
its an easy solution
west plinth
Once again, aim for headshots and you're fine. Other guns have more recoil to control, bolt-actions have to hit headshots now to 1HK, simple as that. And 1 bodyshot + pistol still works fine for me 🤷
solid hinge
In my opinion a sweet-spot mechanic in Battlefield 5 would have actually made more sense than in Battlefield 1 even tho opinions are split on it.
enjoy your 2 classes then
opaque cipher
I recommend the revolver
west plinth
Nah, mate, 1911 forever! 😄
solid hinge
The revolver is bad the damage drop off is so huge.
solid hinge
I would like them to give me back my Obrez pistol then I would not even need a primary weapon. 😄
grave loom
1911 masterrace
solid hinge
But it could have been a one hit on the head at least even tho it is a troll pistol.
opaque hinge
meh
solid hinge
Anyways guys I am out I will play a game now. But it will not be Battlefield 5 😃
west plinth
Fascinating
opaque cipher
The gun should destroy itself and hurt you when you fire all the shots
midnight nimbus
sweet spot is good
makes bolt actions legitimately threatening
just like all other guns
west plinth
@opaque cipher Borderlands-style? Reloading throws the weapon and it blows up?
midnight nimbus
like in BF4, if you see a sniper glint, you just say "lol" and keep going about your way
wild oxide
Flintlock sidearm, fire one shot, then throw the gun to finish off the enemy. Pull another out of... somewhere
maiden steppe
sweetspot is theoretically good but 99% of the BF playerbase doesn't have this mindset of competitiveness and proper class balancing
midnight nimbus
sweet spot doesn't benefit average sniper much anyways
charred dawn
Why's matchmaking taking so long?
opaque cipher
Use server browser
midnight nimbus
average BF brainlet isn't smart enough to use variable blur to figure out if he's in his sweet spot range
opaque cipher
Be smart
maiden steppe
that or using the distance markings on flags as a range finder
west plinth
Well, but wouldn't the good players go for headshots anyways? 
midnight nimbus
no, a good player goes for whatever is the most effective in that scenario
making headshots the only viable method is boring and overly binary
charred heron
Average BF brainlets play Assault anyways
maiden steppe
i imagine that people move so erratically at the top level that it makes headshots only inefficient
charred heron
midnight nimbus
exactly, watch high level gameplay
wild oxide
If I'm using one of the lower damage scout weapons like the RSC or the Model 8, I switch what I try to aim at. At longer ranges, I go for headshots because otherwise it's a three-shot. But at close range I go for body-shots because it's a two-shot either way.
midnight nimbus
it's spray up close, microburst at range
Relaaa doesn't go for too many headshots, he goes for a headshot with the initial bullet, and saves more time by spraying to the chest after
maiden steppe
oh kht since you're here
do you know what ever happened to recoil increase per shot stats?
maiden steppe
before i left ducc discord i saw people discussing this from datamined alpha stats
but im not seeing it in the crude data
maiden steppe
aight nvm, is this formula published anywhere?
midnight nimbus
no
I have the spread one, but I'm pretty sure formulas aren't for sharing
i'd show you what net spread numbers look like
maiden steppe
aight ty for the insight
midnight nimbus
it's not pretty, BFV spread is brainless
doesn't punish magdump at all
it's an incredibly good system, but extremely questionable implementation
maiden steppe
im guessing low max spread
midnight nimbus
no, max spread value doesn't affect you anymore
it's way higher than actual max spread you reach
like for low RoF guns, you can magdump them pretty much all the time
like Bren? just magdump it
semis have no spread increase, just magdump them
MMGs? no spread increase, keep magdumping
SMGs <= 600 RPM? magdump
KE7 is still magdumpable, recent nerf didn't touch its <50m capabilities at all
maiden steppe
sounds to me like they can still punish magdumping by adjusting the whole recoil bloom formula
wild oxide
The recoil increase on the KE7 was barely notable
maiden steppe
PUBG, for example, encourages 5 round bursts because after that the hrec starts going to shit
but it amount of bloom isn't enough here in BFV
midnight nimbus
0.09 hrec is a big increase, really hurt its long range ability
no longer competes with the Bren at range
which is good
opaque hinge
All the guns imo have super low recoul
Recoil
Especially once specializations are put on
I can laser someone with like any gun
maiden steppe
with the exception of guns like FG42 and Suomi, yeah, i can do that as well
wild oxide
I turned off my specs on the Suomi for testing, I completely forgot how often that things just leaps horizontally
opaque hinge
I also hate how suppression is completely non-existent in this game
midnight nimbus
0-30m: FG42 is the best LMG
30-50m: KE7 is the best LMG
50+m: Bren is the best LMG
all based off hitrates
opaque hinge
Like afaik the only thing it does is just spot people
And I've liked the vgo so far
wild oxide
Suppression does have some minor visual effects, but they typically won't stop you from doing anything
charred heron
MG42 works fine from ranges of 0-500m 
opaque hinge
The visual effects aren't even noticeable
Imo the suppression should be similar to squad
Squads suppression system is great
noble hound
Does anyone experience flashing when ADS in weapons and tanks?
charred heron
It's really awful that someone can have normal aim when you suppress them with an MMG+
main meteor
random question, when you open a door or interact with someone on PC, does it also automatically force a reload?
rose pilot
Which path do ya'll recommend for the STG44?
charred heron
Not hipfire
opaque hinge
Fast reload
maiden steppe
I'm working on being more aggressive with the MMGs. flanking with them is incredible but sometimes it's hard to get into a good position for bipoding
rose pilot
so right
midnight nimbus
MG34 beats MG42 after 50m
wary mason
solid hinge
mg34 is love
midnight nimbus
can't land shots faster with the MG42 than you can with the MG34 at range
opaque hinge
An mg42 fires at you
U dont get suppressed at all
It's a mild annoyance at best
Like shit you should be crapping your pants
maiden steppe
VGO is the MMG that i pulled off my first big flank with
charred heron
All MMGs should influence the aim of a suppressed enemy
maiden steppe
22 killstreak in the first few minutes of a breakthrough match on Fjell when attacking A flag
opaque hinge
And visual/auditory suppression
Just literally copy paste squads suppression system and I'm happy
rose pilot
3 days left for Tachanka in BFV
wary mason
WAIT @rose pilot
rose pilot
WHat
opaque hinge
Praise our lord and saviour
wild oxide
Nice
charred heron
Can't wait for the Papa Chanka helmet
maiden steppe
we just need a DP-28 in the game now
charred heron
And then fire through with the MG42
maiden steppe
or dp27
apparently it's called DP-28 in the west but this has never been an actual model name from the manufacturers
it's officially the DP-27
steep radish
@rose pilot oh my dear jesus christ
rose pilot
steep radish
sorry chad
midnight nimbus
suppression not affecting spread is questionable at best
steep radish
But uh is there like
dreamy lintel
You already get spotted when suppressed, that’s already too much.
steep radish
whats a sip
opaque hinge
I think the spotting when suppressed should be removed
dreamy lintel
Suppressing shouldn’t be an instant thing, it could build, but I HATED not being able to return fire. I’m not playing a simulator FPS I’m sorry but it’s just not
opaque hinge
And instead replaced with actual suppression
I think bf3/bf4 had actual suppression if I remember correctly
dreamy lintel
Having inaccurate fire when fire at by either lmgs or a sniper was BAD you missed the shots and I’m the one punished? Nah
It happened instantly on that game, so even if you could react you were still punished for THEM missing initially
midnight nimbus
make suppression area based and cumulative
you can fire back if you're quick
right as suppression begins
but if you sit there, you get punished
either react fast, or get out
opaque hinge
^
And also make mmgs slightly less accurate too
Cause they're like literal lasers rn
midnight nimbus
MMGs just need reverse spread
opaque hinge
Which is kinda dumb imo
opaque hinge
More spread but they suppress
midnight nimbus
they need to hit like 1.5-2 degrees of spread on the second shot, and decrease from there
steep radish
To be a laser but when bipoded
midnight nimbus
nah, have the same base spread, but add reverse spread
steep radish
Thats the only time when it’s actually accurate so I think Its p accurate
midnight nimbus
so they're lasers at sustained fire
steep radish
Yea
midnight nimbus
but not immediate DPS pumps
thin apex
MG42 does have a fair bit of recoil even with bipod
opaque hinge
Laser at sustained fire makes sense
steep radish
That makes more sense then
thin apex
The first burst is what kills
dreamy lintel
2142 had that exact mechanism minus bipeds
opaque hinge
Cause kinda removes the whole "covering fire" element
Or laying down "suppressive fire"
:(
Like fuck if I'm a support I wanna lay down some covering fire on the guy sniping at the other end of the bridge or whatever so my squad can make it across
thin apex
Idk
opaque hinge
But it's more like naw I gotta laser him instead and kill him cause suppression doesn't do anything
thin apex
Snipers still own me even if I do supress them
opaque hinge
Cause they dont get suppressed
thin apex
Sad face
opaque hinge
Especially vs snipers
Zero scope sway, zero accuracy penalty
When an mg42 is ripping right past you
Stupid af
No way you're holding full steady with a nice shiny view when an mg42 is pumping rounds all around you
You're shitting your pants and crying for mommy
thin apex
Speaking of that. I had a whole squad using MMGs XD
opaque hinge
Not just laxing like it's another day on the job
thin apex
We held this one little foxhole for like 10 mins
thin apex
We had one VGO,One MG42, and two MG34s
thin apex
Me and the VGO (I was the 42) were holding down one side
thin apex
I got that BELT
opaque hinge
Yeee
thin apex
250 rounds 
opaque hinge
B E L T
sullen mist
Man that veiled threat headgear looks nice
thin apex
Medic Mastery if I remeber
midnight nimbus
high FSSM and high offset would completely fix MMGs
if they get meaningful suppression
thin apex
I got a picture of it since I have it if you want to see the whole outfit
thin apex
@sullen mist Sent it to you
midnight nimbus
10x FSSM, 3.0 offset, a bit less hrec = MMGs aren't as braindead anymore
swift condor
Don't do that
subtle cloak
that flute song in the menus is so fucking bad lol
i wish evhe ad fno ef ne a a fwe
swift condor
English?
primal sage
Guys...holy shit...the Staghound is soooo good with the Auto AT rounds.
It can actually go up against a Panzer VI.
swift condor
When I'm in a tiger and a staghound does loops around me
subtle cloak
is it possible to cut out "FJELL" and "NARVIK" from the map rotation?? fking hate those maps
swift condor
Feel like I'm playing world of tanks
charred heron
@swift condor That one bounced
Tho, you can do that with light tanks too
WoT in the Frostbite Engine
primal sage
Well that's what the strat is @swift condor
If it can't get a shot, it can't hit us.
Plus, with these AP rounds, I can disable the turret in seconds.
If you pick "AP rounds" as a Specialization after picking "20 MM Auto-Cannon", you get 90 20MM AP rounds.
About 20 of these, if all hit the turret, can disable it.
thin apex
Dude
primal sage
For some reason, they count hitting the Turret with AP rounds as X2 damage.
swift condor
Yeah I just turn the other way and fire an APCR round right in the turret
rugged totem
Anyone here have any experience with the AA, Which spec are good? Is 37mm flak better than the standard one and how does the incendiary AA ammo work?
thin apex
So I tried the Incendiary ammo
And...Wasn't really impressed
Basically, you have a separate ammo cache for the flaming rounds. However, you need to directly hit the plane
and I noticed it had very little effectiveness...
the 37mm is great. the 20mm is good against fighters because you put down so much fire
rugged totem
Hmm, okay that doesn't sound that good, but it's either that or Smoke / AP mines
Yeah but is it good against infantry aswell?
thin apex
AP Mines so you could troll inf?
rugged totem
The standard one cuts through inf pretty good
thin apex
It is just S mines
rugged totem
the 37mm*
primal sage
Did you aim for the Engine?
Or the Wing?
You have to be SPECIFIC with the AA shit.
thin apex
I haven't really learned to use flaming rounds
primal sage
Well where you hit planes is ALWAYS important, whether you're a pilot, an AA gunner, or just some dude with flaming rounds in an MG.
thin apex
Plus since it isnt a HE-VT/HE-D it's hard to get hits on a moving target at range which is trying to evade you
even with back to back hits
primal sage
Oft times hitting the wing or the engine is better than hitting the body.
thin apex
At range, moving target, having to directly hit them
and thats how you die
because bomber
primal sage
Or if someone is being tailed, tell them to bring them over you.
thin apex
with 500lbs or 1000kg bomb
primal sage
You can dodge bombers now.
thin apex
Eh
primal sage
A 500lbs bomb won't kill you unless it's direct.
thin apex
I'm done with this debate
primal sage
I'm just trying to help.
rugged totem
But one last thing, the 20mm, is it a downgrade to the allround-ness of the AA?
4guns vs 1gun
thin apex
I'm just going to wait until I get actual data
primal sage
On what vehicle?
rugged totem
Flakpanzer
primal sage
I refer to it as "Heavy Flak" vs. "Light Flak".
Makes it very easy to remember.
I've tried both.
The Light Flak is shit against bombers but absolutely DEMOLISHES Fighters if you can aim.
The Heavy is exactly the opposite.
It ruins Bombers but you'll be struggling to put the nail in the coffin on Fighters.
rugged totem
I just had a 20-0 with the light flak, and i think it does decent against bombers
You've just got to lead the target at range
thin apex
the 37mm will still kill fighters well enough
rugged totem
Guess i'll just have to try each and see which one i like
Soo expensive to reset tho
rugged totem
Yeah but you have to rebuy the ranks?
thin apex
I dont think so.
solid hinge
its free
rugged totem
Oh!
thin apex
nope
rugged totem
nice
solid hinge
@ lvl 4
thin apex
reset at will
primal sage
No.
thin apex
Haven't really found a use for those airburst smoke shells
primal sage
If you haven't bought a specialzation yet, you'll need to buy AT LEAST ONE of that tier before you can get them for free.
primal sage
But if you haven't bought a teir 4 Specialzation and then reset...
...you'll still need to buy a Teir 4 specialization.
thin apex
what if there was a tier 5
split shadow
The CASE shells for tanks are amazing.
elfin plover
squad 1 need 2
thin apex
STG44 Vampir?
elfin plover
only 1337 sshootahs
solid hinge
IR in ww2 damn nazis
primal sage
Okay so...I think I figured out what's up with the Grand Operations loading glitch...a tiny bit.
It SEEMS to be tied to the intro scene.
late sable
Hi people, does anyone want to play battlefield V ?
primal sage
The one where the text tells you about the history of this operation, and then guy tells you what you're going to be doing?
Quitting during that, or before it, seems to make this "loading glitch" happen.
I don't know why.
But it seems to hold true.
Because if I wait until the intro stops.
Then quit when it's done.
...I don't get a loading error.
solid hinge
whats the assignment for the canis horribilis outfit?
strong parrot
aha finished off the medic crate challenge...thank you to the other medic on my team last round who stayed at the spawn for 2 mins at the start and traded healing
opaque hinge
he da real mvp
primal sage
WHAT ABOUT ME?
thin apex
@solid hinge Recon Mastery
primal sage
I literally got out of a tank to revive a squad mate, RISKING IT BEING TAKEN BY THE ENEMY, AND US BOTH BEING KILLED!
opaque hinge
oof
solid hinge
what do you have to do
solid hinge
its not someting like headshot 10 enemies in 1 life right?
charred dawn
best map&mode for the medical crate mission?
stuck plaza
OMG I JUST LEARNED HOW TO USE THE PIAT
topaz dome
enlighten me
steep radish
The rocket launcher?
You shove the thing into the thing and then the thingie launches the thingie
opaque hinge
neon tinsel
neon tinsel
great
mines spawned under my tank
assault infantry need to play the game instead of playing tank hunters
you're down with 100 tickets
undone cave
i hate this tides of war missions making teammates using ammo/medic boxes because its so inefficient
cold trail
Hm?
undone cave
i have to get people to take ammo and heal from medic boxes
primal sage
Zadkiel.
undone cave
its dumb because people who dont need it keep them filled faster then i can throw them down and have someone pick it up
neon tinsel
lmao
subtle cloak
anyone else lagging on ps4? i have ethernet cable with double digit upload and 7-8mbps download....
grave loom
double digit upload? damn yo
neon tinsel
It's just that i find it too common where 2 or 3 assaults just rush me down with panzerfausts while i'm duelling another tank and i'm getting super annoyed about that.
It's even worse when you win a duel
but then they just pop up from behind because conquest is shit and no one defends points.
neon tinsel
wdym, people will actively try to hunt you when they play assault.
gray glade
is the x1.5 scope bugged?
steep radish
True but tanks have utilization too
neon tinsel
I'm in the middle of a field, far away from any point. Assaults show up.
gray glade
i mean the x1.5 sight for the mmg's, i dont notice any zoom for it, is that a bug or am i just underestimating how small that is?
neon tinsel
Still takes like 2 secs for you to get your weapon
neon tinsel
if you're not behind cover then they will be able to react and kill you.
and if you play on the new map then you won't be behind cover all that much.
steep radish
Make sure to get close enough and then do battle USUALLY I fight them and they die because they dont expect me to exit the tank
When in an open field with a tank
Distance yourself they try reeling you in close enough so they do enough damage
neon tinsel
wdym, players can outrun a tiger.
steep radish
I mean
opaque hinge
i would not suggest getting out of your tank
neon tinsel
Normally
steep radish
Eh
opaque hinge
i love it when they get out - i simply kill them and then +1 tank to our team
go down with your tank
neon tinsel
Not with the super bad animations it doesn't.
neon tinsel
Only thing you can do vs infantry as a tiger is hope you can kill them before they're within that 10m range where your turret can't hit them
steep radish
Or use your second gun
neon tinsel
if there's more than 2 then good luck to you soldier.
steep radish
Wait does a tiger even have that
neon tinsel
Tiger has coax
steep radish
But no secondary machine gun?
neon tinsel
oh actually i wonder
i've never thought about switching to front gunner
hmm
maybe we have a solution there
steep radish
But it has faster fire-rate taking out enemies faster
neon tinsel
?
steep radish
Or at least infantry
neon tinsel
They're basically the same.
main grove
They made it so a grand operation no longer counts as one big round for Mastery assignments
steep radish
oh
main grove
I'm crying
neon tinsel
But the front gun could probably have saved me a few times
only problem is if you don't kill them then, because then you basically give them a free dynamite on your engine.
Also, how the heck
does the panzer 4 do more damage
than the tiger.
Makes 0 sense
I can reliably hit a valentine for 24-26 damage
but with the tiger
neon tinsel
it goes from 6-29
opaque hinge
this games messed lol
steep radish
Im gonna have a hard time with tanks in this games
*game
They nerfed my medic class and now this
neon tinsel
Medic is fine
assault is overloaded
they get all the anti tank
- the assault and semis
steep radish
Medic is fine
Has no differentiating weapons
neon tinsel
So they can deal with anything except bombers, but only other planes can deal with bombers
opaque hinge
u can also pick up guns
grave loom
ya know
opaque hinge
as a medic
neon tinsel
Well there we go
neon tinsel
Assault can deal with every type of enemy the game can throw at them
opaque hinge
cause medic will be op otherwise.
steep radish
Medic has only SMG’s
neon tinsel
I think they should just merge medic and assault again
opaque hinge
i used medic in every single bf before this
neon tinsel
make engineer a thing
steep radish
And other classes arent?
opaque hinge
no
grave loom
technically every class can deal with everything
steep radish
Literally assault as some people say is overloaded
opaque hinge
be medic
laser everyone with AR
proceed to infinite heal myself
rinse and repeat
steep radish
Ye
opaque hinge
not op at all?
steep radish
Yea but then again
opaque hinge
yeah i think not
solid hinge
medics dont have shit besides smoke and can have infinite bandages
grave loom
stationary guns my man lol
its stupid but just sayin technically @neon tinsel
steep radish
The SMG’s are weak af
opaque hinge
infinite bandages is super op in a game where there is limited health regen
solid hinge
i just almost went top in a grand operations with 1KDR and that was from doing obj and revivng/healing everyone
neon tinsel
That's not dependent on the class though.
solid hinge
i couldnt frag like my assault squad mates
opaque hinge
^
grave loom
Yep thats why its a stupid Point
solid hinge
smgs weak vs ar
steep radish
O
solid hinge
i wish medic guns shot faster and just had more recoil
granite swan
I loved the medic my favorite class so far
steep radish
And there should be more variation
Im not gonna force myself to pick up weapons every other now and then
neon tinsel
I just want them to shift some power away from the assaults
grave loom
What
steep radish
Teamwork
granite swan
No other class can keep up with medic because of the infinity health generation that gives advantage over all other classes
grave loom
^
neon tinsel
I find myself running out of ammo a lot when i play medic.
steep radish
Makes Medic useless what makes him better a faster animation?
neon tinsel
Revive is fine.
granite swan
Always play as a diverse squad that’s the main point of battlefield five
steep radish
Thats dumb
opaque hinge
btw everyone pls remember snuggleflake is snutten's new name - this was decreed by Hess himself
please refer to him as such ty
opaque hinge
snuggleflake
steep radish
Snutten
opaque hinge
😦
west plinth
Snuggliboy ❤
opaque hinge
ill carry u snuggleflake
steep radish
O
granite swan
🤔
opaque hinge
👜
steep radish
Is it that bad?
opaque hinge
u mean uninstall
charred heron
Not entirely
steep radish
Christ I mean
grave loom
I love it
charred heron
Some maps are trash and clearly made for only one mode
steep radish
All over the place Ive been hearing nothing but how imbalanced this game is
opaque hinge
meh
granite swan
This is only the beginning
charred heron
But what bugs me the most are the utterly rarted people that you can refer to as "team enemies"
steep radish
Huh
west plinth
Compared to the other BF games this game is actually pretty well balanced.^^
solid hinge
calling in V1s is so fucking awkward and clumsy
why cant we just select a point on the map
steel sand
Hello guys I have a question, I have build the snowman for like 4 times now but the challenge keeps saying I didn’t am I doing something wrong?
charred heron
@solid hinge Don't forget the bug where the glasses don't load and you can't call it for the rest of the round
steep radish
Wouldve been cool as shit to call in artillery support
solid hinge
i just had a bug where half of my screen went black
steep radish
But nah
granite swan
Of course There will be more improvements we shall wait to see what will happen
granite swan
I had some pretty bad glitches that made trigger
west plinth
I don't think it's nearly as bad as people want it to be 🤷
granite swan
But in case of occurring any issues I suggest you to report it
steep radish
because I already know they’re gonna add more later
grave loom
can get it for like 40 bucks
charred heron
I mean, there are some improvements over BF1 (especially the damn netcode), the gunplay could use a tiny bit more work and the movement is fluid
steep radish
I bought MH and SWBF2 instead
grave loom
MH?
steep radish
Monster Hunter
grave loom
ah
steep radish
My cousin is getting it tho
charred heron
But some maps with their bad design, imbalances between the classes and this overanimation of everything makes it worse than it is
grave loom
Definetly agree with the bad maps part tbh
steep radish
Only good ones I like is Twisted Steel and Arras
granite swan
But if anyone complains about this game what would he prefer instead
opaque hinge
yeah the map design is pretty poor
west plinth
Only bad one is Fjell, imo
steep radish
Nah i
opaque hinge
okay hamada is garbage
charred heron
People critizised Doom's glory kills because they might take out the movement from the game and disturbing the flow of the gameplay
opaque hinge
the rest are okay
steep radish
Other maps are BORING AS HELL
charred heron
But BFV takes that to a next level
charred heron
Can't stand Rotterdam and Hamada
charred heron
Both are clearly made for GO and not for Conquest
west plinth
BF3 and BF4 had shite maps too tho. :/
grave loom
rotterdams fine imo
steep radish
The poorest map design based on the biggest conflict in history of mankind
charred heron
Arras looks nice, but can throw the fun into the trash when your team team just succs
steep radish
And we have this stuff?
granite swan
Rotterdam is great
steep radish
Remember in WAW where they used the geography of one of the missions to set up some pretty good shit and tactics?
And now here its just
Boring
Most gameplays I see look like small skirmishes on small areas
granite swan
Ummm that’s a good point actually
solid hinge
I mean
charred heron
If you can trap the enemy easily inside their own main spawns and get the adventage of the better position, then the map design is trash
solid hinge
why did they nerf the panzerfaust so hard
panzerstorm is accurate to the actual grography
charred heron
Play this F2P game called Zula in the TDM mode
The maps there are mostly what i hate about Rotterdam and Hamada
steep radish
Why not increase the player count depending on the type of mode
All of the gameplays I see feel BARREN
granite swan
Hamada was the worst creation of all time but other maps are fine they are not that bad
charred heron
Can't defend the poor design of Rotterdam outside of GO
steep radish
PROCEEDS TO MAKE A BATTLE ROYAKE
west plinth
I feel like I am the only person in existence enjoying Hamada 😄
steep radish
*ROYALE
charred heron
@steep radish I bet we get a nice 20Hz transfer like Blackout
granite swan
@west plinth which class you use on Hamada
steep radish
Lol
west plinth
@granite swan Pretty much everything, plus planes and tanks.^^
granite swan
Planes are so overpowered the strongest thing in bfv
charred heron
To be fair, the map in Blackout looks awful
steep radish
Ye
opaque hinge
hamada battle royale confirmed
charred heron
steep radish
Blackout is awful I dont even bother with it
opaque hinge
i wouldnt even be surprised
granite swan
Dice won’t do a shit and you will see
opaque hinge
if they made the br on hamada
opaque hinge
just fuckin dump everyone in hamada
put a wall that closes in
and throw guns on the ground randomly
would not surprise me
steep radish
100 PLAYERS IN FJELL
steep radish
Fjell battle royale
opaque hinge
west plinth
I mean, in the trailer you already saw the BR-map 🤷
steep radish
wait brb
opaque hinge
could still be hamada
west plinth
Well, enough to know it's not hamada 😄
opaque hinge
meh
charred heron
I still won't play BR tho, so meh
opaque hinge
br hamada confirmed
charred heron
Only ever got this GO variant of BR once
west plinth
I'll try it and then probs never play it ever again^^
granite swan
If the Battle Royale has the same map as the trailer I will uninstall it
solid hinge
The game could have been much better however I would not blame DICE but rather EA since they want DICE to develop a AAA-title every year. So I do not wonder that Battlefield 5 is like that.
opaque hinge
meh
they've handled everything about this release poorly imo
like
i dont even know where to start
solid hinge
EA always have poor releases
charred heron
The marketing was as confusing as the one from Titanfall 2
Latter is the better game tho
granite swan
Still could be worse
solid hinge
at least this BF didnt take 1 year + to get fixed
i just want back the good ol days of BF3
Things EA made fail: Need for Speed, Star Wars, Battlefield 5?
I probably forgot about some other games
FIFA
opaque hinge
everything
granite swan
^^
solid hinge
But at least you can see their shares have gone down rapidly 😄
opaque hinge
more like 2013
granite swan
EA is the worst
opaque hinge
anything past 2013 has been garbage
granite swan
solid hinge
I remember when I actually liked the "Need for Speed" series.
charred heron
Duck Dynasty
granite swan
Man don’t mention cod I hate it so much
charred heron
Need for Speed was originally a pure driving sim
opaque hinge
mw2 was last good game
rip COD
then activision saw $$$ floating in front of them
and got greedy
charred heron
Also, why did Criterion work on BFV rather than making a Burnout Paradise 2?
opaque hinge
rip ghost
charred heron
granite swan
solid hinge
And how disappointed I was when I bought 2012's "Most Wanted". The name made it sell to me...
charred heron
@solid hinge Most Wanted 2012 is actually Burnout Paradise 2
opaque hinge
im getting too old
solid hinge
If at least the damage models had been better 😄
charred heron
Porsche doesn't like their cars totally nuked
granite swan
charred heron
But i think they also don't like their cars in bad games
granite swan
solid hinge
Also true but still it was underwhelming 😄
charred heron
Anyways, did Criterion only work on the planes or actually worked on the ground vehicles?
Because one has a nice damage model while the other one is meh
If i track a tank, then i want to see it's track flat on the ground
nocturne hawk
Want a Sprite Cranberry?
charred heron
And not just fancy sparkles
limber anchor
They are working on the br mode as well
charred heron
granite swan
I see from here the Battle Royale is a big disappointment
gray glade
It has possibilities i think
Battlefield is already well adapted for game modes with many players on massive maps
so technology wise i think it'll be good, only remains to see the execution
charred heron
Only map where BR would make sense is Stalingrad in Winter
Not a rarted ring of fire
west plinth
What fun is there in making sense?
charred heron
gray glade
a city map for BR?
cinder radish
I thought BR was just going to be the 4th day. Everyone from day 3. On the same map it just gets smaller. Like last man standing wins final day for the team.
west plinth
ANd how would it make sense?
cinder radish
Like a Team BR.
gray glade
it wasnt all that popular with lots of buildings for that pubg map
because ppl could camp anywhere
shell kiln
When do you guys think we will be getting the Riberolles 1918? It's def in the game
west plinth
Who cares about gun skins?! Tank and planeskins FTW!
charred heron
I hope they'll add the Panther later
solid hinge
in my 150 hours i have probably used vehicles for 15 minutes
west plinth
@solid hinge Are you okay? Do you wanna talk about it? Who hurt you?
west plinth
Panther would be neato
sacred hull
there was no point
west plinth
Would love to see a tankdestroyer for the german side as well tho, a StuG or Hetzer or something
bronze cradle
@everyone Do I have to start a game in ToW to complete the snowman challenge or can I just start any mode if the right map pops up?
west plinth
I think that would be a bit overkill 😄
charred heron
Waffelträger
west plinth
Well, good luck on devastation and rotterdam then 😄
solid hinge
8.8 had more penetration than the 10.5
10.5 only had AP and APC ammo
and a shorter barrel
8.8 had a higher Muzzle velocity and HE fillers
the KwK 43 8.8 anyway
the Tiger 1 used the Flak 18 8.8
the trash version of the 88
charred heron
8.8 was a meme gun
It worked, yes
But i don't know what caused the situation that an AA team fired it at a tank and was like "Hey, that's pretty effective"
west plinth
German ingenuity
solid hinge
in 41 the germans used 3.7 and 5cm PaKs
they had trouble pentrating KV1s and T34s
the rest is history
charred heron
I know
charred heron
The StuG was literally that
solid hinge
i thought you were refering to the 88 lol
west plinth
Let's grab a block of steel and carve a tank out of it - Maus
solid hinge
yea
charred heron
Tiger was a shoebox with the 8.8
solid hinge
i want tripod mg42s
west plinth
I want a puppy
primal sage
Guys...help...
solid hinge
i hope i wont die within the next 4 months
charred heron
@solid hinge MG34 battery
solid hinge
i"d be pretty pissed
charred heron
Of like 12
primal sage
...I can't ever seem to shake a fucking fighter when he's on my ass. No matter how many fucking loops I do.
WHY?
Why can't I fucking lose anyone!?
charred heron
Because he's good?
west plinth
Git gud.