battlefield-legacy-titles

[compact oxide]

^

[sacred junco]

so kinda like the mp34?

[compact oxide]

Mp34 still has a little recoil

[sacred junco]

but the rpm does still help

[compact oxide]

Random stutters that screw up my headshots

Yeah for sure

The faster rpm line increases recoil

[glad wasp]

I wonder if we will get the Soviet rpd

[opaque cipher]

M1919 tho

[midnight nimbus]

less than the MP34

[opaque cipher]

I’m excited

[midnight nimbus]

360 RPM might break the BFV spread formula, you might get no spread cheese

[glad wasp]

Cause rpd would wreck all the other lmgs

[opaque cipher]

BFV doesn’t really have spread lmao

[midnight nimbus]

BFV does

[sacred junco]

they could always fudge the numbers for specific guns to prevent laser

[opaque cipher]

It’s mostly recoil in play

[midnight nimbus]

not really

you don't get BFV's burst vs dump differences with recoil alone

[runic belfry]

there are actual perks that say increase accuracy while standing still/moving

[midnight nimbus]

BFV's spread mechanics are designed around making everyone play like jjika, ideally

[opaque cipher]

I can see accuracy/spread factoring in when I do mag dump at extreme ranges

But otherwise it’s really not much

[sacred junco]

spread does exist even with the mp34 in med distance

at least I think it certainl does

[midnight nimbus]

BFV spread is engineered around making a 5 round burst 100% accurate to the end of your 5BTK range, for most guns

[sacred junco]

unless I burst it properly

[midnight nimbus]

same way BF1 spread for SLRs is designed around making a 3 round burst 100% accurate to the end of your 3BTK range

[compact oxide]

Does that mean the higher damage SLRs are all perfectly accurate?

[midnight nimbus]

well

BFV changed semi auto design

now it's just magdump to forever

no more spread increase

magdump to 140m

every semi auto (assault or scout) has 100% hitrate to ~140m

which is why getting the specialization for more standing accuracy is useless

just use the hipfire specs

[opaque cipher]

Standing accuracy is a big meme anyways

Just asking to get headshot

[regal sapphire]

The M2 Carbine is a nice little assault rifle we could get

[opaque cipher]

I still don’t know why we have so many WWI guns

Yeah Lewis I understand

But like

Jesus guys

[regal sapphire]

Asset reuse Ptar

[glad wasp]

The sebastladers make no sense

[regal sapphire]

There's no reason for certain guns to be in WW2

[glad wasp]

Like 0

[regal sapphire]

Ribeyrolles make even less sense

[glad wasp]

Where's the mas36

[opaque cipher]

The Darne is datamined too

Like a LMG from 1907

[rustic bobcat]

Yay I finished the KE7 mastery challenges

[regal sapphire]

Darne isn't even that terrible

[old karma]

There's a huge reason

[glad wasp]

If they want to release rare guns, I rather them do 1945,1946 guns

[old karma]

its a video game

[glad wasp]

Not the other way around

[regal sapphire]

It's a videogame

Lets have lightsabers bois"!

Woo hoo!

[glad wasp]

Can we get ak47s?

[old karma]

How is that even remotely similar?

[regal sapphire]

Why not? It's a videogame after all

[opaque cipher]

Can we get flintlock

[regal sapphire]

Sure mate, videogame

[opaque cipher]

Oh and cyborg demon women

Katana too

[regal sapphire]

Go ahead

[old karma]

Big difference between a gun from 20 years ago and a futuristic sword of light

a huge difference

[glad wasp]

The mg15 was from 1921, and it was in bf1

[old karma]

So dont even make that argument

[opaque cipher]

15

[glad wasp]

No reason we can't get ak47s right

[opaque cipher]

1921

[midnight nimbus]

who cares about WW1 guns, as long as they add new weapon roles

[compact oxide]

Agreed

[regal sapphire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann_MG_15nA_machine_gun

[opaque cipher]

Universal weapon class

[regal sapphire]

Bud

[old karma]

People are legit just finding reasons to bitch

[opaque cipher]

Let’s go

[regal sapphire]

Not 21

[minor gale]

[old karma]

Like its actually impossible for some people to have fun

It worries me

[regal sapphire]

Then leave the server if you're that bothered by it jesus

[glad wasp]

Designed in 1921 what's wrong?

[regal sapphire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann_MG_15nA_machine_gun

[old karma]

Same to you buddy

[regal sapphire]

It's not designed in 1921

[minor gale]

The game is fun

[old karma]

you bitch about everything

[minor gale]

Fact

[old karma]

if it bothers you

leave

Im having plenty of fun

[regal sapphire]

Atleast I don't get triggered by other people getting annoyed lol

[opaque cipher]

Lmao

[calm meteor]

complaining about WWI guns in WWII

[regal sapphire]

I'm also having plenty of fun

[old karma]

Im not even triggered, just annoyed that someone can be so upset

[compact oxide]

🍿 👀

[old karma]

over everything

[minor gale]

[regal sapphire]

If you are that annoyed, why care?

[old karma]

I dont think you've said a positive thing since joining this discord

[solid hinge]

I mean, the ribeyrolles might be added

so

uh

[calm meteor]

more napkin guns

[old karma]

Lemme dual wield Liberators

[regal sapphire]

I don't think you've ever stopped bitching about me once before on this discord

[old karma]

Of course I have

[compact oxide]

[old karma]

I've agreed with you before

[calm meteor]

no really katana when

[minor gale]

Heya guys take it easy

[opaque cipher]

Yeah where is that katana outfit

[unreal charm]

when japan being introduced

shame

[minor gale]

We all wanna be frens in here

[solid hinge]

i'd love to see DICE experiment with universal weapons though

[calm meteor]

wake island 2019 edition

[unreal charm]

and no melee weapon visible on uniform

[opaque cipher]

Friendship be damned

[solid hinge]

I would die to see DMRs return to medic

[old karma]

I dont really mind class weapons

[opaque cipher]

I want my guns

[regal sapphire]

Like DMRs for all classes?

[opaque cipher]

Make medic weapons all classes

[regal sapphire]

I mean, we're not getting most of the guns for like 4 weeks when the patch drops so

[calm meteor]

should just be bolts for all classes

[old karma]

I think the big issue with giving DMRs to medics is that they'd be kind powerful as a class unless they only got NEW DMRs that were designed for them

[minor gale]

Well I still think the medic needs a DMR

[opaque cipher]

Never

[calm meteor]

no scopes

[compact oxide]

Global semi autos and shotguns plz

[opaque cipher]

Nah

No long range option at all

[unreal charm]

shotgun would be nice for medic

[solid hinge]

im kind of bummed out by the fact that medic has no long range guns

[unreal charm]

medic will get drilling

[old karma]

Being able to self heal whenever you like is a pretty big deal

[glad wasp]

An my mistake, it seems like I was fooled by Hitler and his boys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_15

[opaque cipher]

Thank god medics have no long range guns

[solid hinge]

kind of makes medic pointless in bigger maps

[old karma]

So forcing them to be close quarters makes some sense

[opaque cipher]

Force them to actually play in close range

[unreal charm]

drilling could give you long and short range

[minor gale]

Well with the current ttd you get not many situations for self heal

[old karma]

Granted they could def use a bit of a buff

Which they're getting so

👍🏻

[regal sapphire]

they are getting a buff

[compact oxide]

Medics should be behind the front lines

[regal sapphire]

Don't think it's gonna be enough though

[glad wasp]

So germans called another gun the mg15 so no one notices they were making new machine guns

[compact oxide]

So they can Rez the fraggers

[opaque cipher]

In the frontlines*

[regal sapphire]

Well one is called the MG15NA

The other is just MG15

[glad wasp]

My bad

[opaque cipher]

nA and aA

[old karma]

Im curious to see how the Vickers K performs

[opaque cipher]

Well we actually have the Vickers rn

[solid hinge]

I mean, just give me my selbstlader for medic

[opaque cipher]

It’s a mounted gun

[regal sapphire]

Neue art/Alter Art

[solid hinge]

and i'll be happy

[old karma]

the emplacement sure

[opaque cipher]

Probably best so far

[solid hinge]

😃

[opaque cipher]

Like

I three shot up to so far away

[old karma]

but this is like the detached airplane version

[regal sapphire]

Yes

The troops on africa used it

[thorn heart]

so done with this insane challenge

[old karma]

So it'll be interesting to see how it performs

[thorn heart]

im throwing in the towel for tonight

[opaque cipher]

Oh yeah

We’re getting Chauchat aren’t we

[solid hinge]

medics with shotgun

[calm meteor]

[solid hinge]

and no, wasn't confirmed

[opaque cipher]

It’s even in the game

I don’t get it

[midnight nimbus]

semi auto medic pls

[opaque cipher]

Nah

[compact oxide]

^

[opaque cipher]

Just shotgun

[compact oxide]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

thanks @midnight nimbus

[compact oxide]

Both

[old karma]

Medics shouldnt get DMRs

Carbines though?

That could be alright

[compact oxide]

DMRs on medics plz

[solid hinge]

smgs are boring

[old karma]

I know it was leaked that Carbines will be a weapon class

[solid hinge]

& it allows for long range combat

[compact oxide]

Assault shouldn't have everything nice

[old karma]

SMGs are great fun

Medics would be a bit too powerful with DMRs

[midnight nimbus]

nah, semi autos as medic weapons were great design

[old karma]

self healing plus range?

[midnight nimbus]

just add spread increase

[opaque cipher]

No lol

[solid hinge]

not like thats ever been a problem

[old karma]

Nah, it'd get tiring real quick

[solid hinge]

was in bf1 aswell

[regal sapphire]

Only fun I have with SMGs is the MG34

[old karma]

close quarters forces them to be amongst the troops

actually doing their jobs

[midnight nimbus]

return medic to what it was in BF1

wasn't problematic at all

[opaque cipher]

Lmao

[old karma]

Carbines would be good though cause they're not quite as powerful as DMRs

but they give range

[midnight nimbus]

it makes zero sense for medic to be the frontline class

[opaque cipher]

[old karma]

It makes plenty of sense

they're literally COMBAT medics

[opaque cipher]

Yes

[old karma]

they're in the thick of it

they're not doctors

[opaque cipher]

Heal the backline classes

[old karma]

they're combat medics

[compact oxide]

No it really doesn't make sense

[midnight nimbus]

why do you want medics in front of everyone they're supposed to revive

[opaque cipher]

Not be there reviving people and pushing

[midnight nimbus]

bc assault is a midrange class now

[old karma]

They dont have to be in front

[midnight nimbus]

support is midrange

[old karma]

just behind the assault

[midnight nimbus]

scout is long range

[old karma]

Hell they can coexist with assault

and it works really well

[midnight nimbus]

why do you want your healers to be the first ones to die when they're supposed to be sustaining your attack

[opaque cipher]

Assault does plenty of short range tho

Along with medics and supports

[solid hinge]

assault is mostly cqb though

[old karma]

Actually Support has shotguns too

they can very well be THE close range class

[midnight nimbus]

assault isn't CQB in BFV

[opaque cipher]

And then scouts are mid and back liners

[old karma]

Assault is more middle range

Support and Medics are close range

[opaque cipher]

Assault are versatile

[midnight nimbus]

midline medic makes perfect sense

[old karma]

Actually Support can be anything they want

[strong gorge]

If you put the ones that are the most relied upon in the front

everyone will follow suit

its leadership 101

cmonbruh

[compact oxide]

[opaque cipher]

@midnight nimbus you give a medic a rifle and then they’ll all go hang out with recons

[compact oxide]

That's not how bf works

[opaque cipher]

Suddenly no more doctors to revive you

[regal sapphire]

I never saw a camping sniper in BF1

[strong gorge]

its the players that are the problem!

not the game

[old karma]

I really dont think the issue is that they're close quarters, I think its just that their weapons are a little sub par in circumstances

[regal sapphire]

Camping medic*

Never saw one on BF1

[old karma]

Like I said, give them carbines

not DMRs

[solid hinge]

its not like DMRs give them a free pass to camp

[old karma]

That would give you your better range

[solid hinge]

they're long range, but they are by no means

any good for sniping

[opaque cipher]

Bet

[solid hinge]

its probably gonna be the same as it was in bf1

medics going around

doing what they're supposed to do

[opaque cipher]

Recons and medics coexist in BF1 at mid lines mostly because there are a lot of iron sight rifles

[solid hinge]

just with a bit more versatility

[old karma]

Besides I dont actually get how anyone can NOT have fun as a medic. Legit smoking out a push, forcing your team to move forward, storming trenches and mopping people up with the Tommy gun before reviving those who got killed?

That shit is fun as f

[midnight nimbus]

just give semis spread increase so they can't max RoF cheese from 140m

move closer to be effective with your guns

[opaque cipher]

And the scoped snipers roam around

[old karma]

Like 80% of recon players are terrible

15% or so are decent

[minor gale]

I really hope the buff is effective enough

[compact oxide]

I was always on point with DMRs in bf1

[old karma]

top 5% are the ones who scare me

[compact oxide]

@minor gale me too 😕

[old karma]

It should be good

[solid hinge]

medic was a fun class in bf1

[old karma]

They're buffing max damage range and the muzzle velocity of all SMGs

so it should be solid

[minor gale]

Medic is my fav class but since bf v it’s not 😦

[old karma]

There was another confirmed weapon class too

Carbines and something else

SPMGs or something

[compact oxide]

Single player machine guns?

[old karma]

Special Purpose Machine Guns

[midnight nimbus]

maybe GPMG

which is an actual term

[low quail]

SuperPuperMegaGun

[midnight nimbus]

halfway between LMG and MMG

[regal sapphire]

General purpose machine gun lol

[opaque cipher]

So probably stuff like bar

I’d be fine if that was the all class weapon type

[regal sapphire]

MG42 too

[midnight nimbus]

actually the MG42 is technically a GPMG

[regal sapphire]

Was tecnically a GPMG

[opaque cipher]

Everyone should be able to experience support guns at its current state

Because it’s great

[midnight nimbus]

BAR is going to be alongside the KE7 and FG42

[solid hinge]

all I want for christmas is....

DMRs to be shared between assault/medic

[midnight nimbus]

KE7: 568 or 635 RPM, FG42: 670 RPM
BAR covers the missing 600 RPM slot

[opaque cipher]

I’d be fine if M1A1 is for medic

[old karma]

oh yeah

Machine Pistols too

[solid hinge]

Turner SMLE & Selbstlader 1916 for me

[old karma]

Machine Pistols could go to Recon probably

That could be kinda powerful

[midnight nimbus]

tbh, ARs to the medic would be fine

[old karma]

ZH, Throwing Knives, Frommer Stop

[thorn heart]

fucks sake

[regal sapphire]

ARs to medic is the best option imo, give SMGs to assault, let them keep the SLRs and give the ARs to the medic

[thorn heart]

2 off

nearly got it

and then i can rest in peace

[old karma]

God no

Dont bring back BF4 Assault

Heals and the best weapons basically

[thorn heart]

WAIT

I GOT IT

thank the fucki g lord

miracle

[regal sapphire]

BF4 assault wasn't even the worse

[old karma]

They were up there though

[thorn heart]

bring back engineer

[old karma]

The single purpose class

[midnight nimbus]

nah, BFV ARs aren't that great

[opaque cipher]

Assault need to float between close to mid range tho

[midnight nimbus]

they're fine for medic

[thorn heart]

bring back engineer remove self repair

[opaque cipher]

Because they’re the anti armor also

[midnight nimbus]

they're bad LMGs without bipods and slightly bigger mags

[old karma]

Im glad Support is actually good this time round though

[opaque cipher]

Same

[old karma]

I still stand by Medic being good too, granted I agree they needed the buff

[regal sapphire]

Support is too good lol

[old karma]

Recon is fun

[regal sapphire]

They got a nerf

[opaque cipher]

Just ke7

[old karma]

if you're a good shot

[opaque cipher]

Lmao

And it’s not a nerf

[regal sapphire]

Yeah, guess what all supports were using

[opaque cipher]

Just rebalance

[low quail]

My fav. medic weapons în BF1 are Fedorov for close combat and Mondragon Sniper fol mid range or long)

[opaque cipher]

My KE7 isn’t even level 4

[old karma]

It got a faster reload but higher recoil

and lost one of its specs

that reduced recoil

[opaque cipher]

Ye

[regal sapphire]

My Support isn't even level 4

[opaque cipher]

All supports are actually using the FG

[old karma]

I prefer the Lewis

[opaque cipher]

If they’re high enough rank that is

[old karma]

thing is a lazer

[regal sapphire]

I have literally never seen anyone using FGs

[opaque cipher]

Otherwise yeah KE7

I do Lewis too

[regal sapphire]

I've gotten killed by the FG like once

[opaque cipher]

You can put 97 rounds down range

@regal sapphire because it’s high rank

[solid hinge]

whenever I play support

I do the big drill

[opaque cipher]

Not a lot of people seem to have it still

But those that do absolutely destroy

[regal sapphire]

I've seen high level support players still using KE7s

[midnight nimbus]

FG42 is really good

all the support guns are

[solid hinge]

more so because KE7 is tearing you in half

[old karma]

The Ke7 is very good

Everyone knows the best gun is the Liberator though

[opaque cipher]

I’ll be surprised if FG doesn’t get hit some way

[old karma]

I almost cant wait for people to complain that Panzer Storm is too open

like its a vehicle map, duh

[midnight nimbus]

FG42 is fine where it is

[old karma]

Granted its not an invalid complaint

[midnight nimbus]

Bren left tree needs some love

[old karma]

but it makes sense

[midnight nimbus]

Lewis could use a tiny buff too

[old karma]

Lewis is just fun to play with

even if it isnt the best LMG

I dunno what it is

maybe just the sound and aesthetic of it

plus its genuinely decent

[midnight nimbus]

a bit less hrec and the Lewis is 👌

[old karma]

I got all gold on the MP40 for the same reason

[compact oxide]

You want a pure laser? 👀

[old karma]

its a decent gun, but its aesthetic and feel makes it 👍🏻

[compact oxide]

Tbh I want a bipod on the mp34 sooooo

[solid hinge]

give me a bipod on the mp40

and we good chief

nobody liked my joke, ok

[old karma]

Cause it wasnt funny

Leave

And never return

[midnight nimbus]

nah, Lewis isn't that laser-y atm

[old karma]

Its definitely accurate though

[midnight nimbus]

not good enough compared to other <600 RPM LMGs

[compact oxide]

MP40 bad

[midnight nimbus]

it's accurate enough, could use help at >60m

[old karma]

MP40 is great

stfu

how dare

[solid hinge]

only medic guns I like

[compact oxide]

[old karma]

I can hip fire snipers down

[solid hinge]

are the emp & mp34

[thorn heart]

FINALLY FINISHED THE MEDIC MASTERY

GOD THAT SHIT WAS TERRIBLE

[old karma]

Tommy gun is a beast too

[thorn heart]

tommy getting nerfed soon sadly

[old karma]

Anyone who uses the 50 round mag is a pleb though

[compact oxide]

I got medic mastery in a round

[opaque cipher]

Tbh Lewis is fine

[solid hinge]

Mp28 with 50 rounds though

[opaque cipher]

Not much to do about it

Maybe buff its range

Bren needs some love

[old karma]

I do wish we got the 30 round mag for the Tommy tho

But 20 is enough for me

[thorn heart]

FINALLY

[old karma]

the ROF increase just melts people

[thorn heart]

i got veiled threat

[opaque cipher]

50 round should be a drum for MG42

Not the belt

[solid hinge]

uhh which class mastery do you need to complete to get the union jacked outfit?

i've completed assault & medic already

[midnight nimbus]

Tommy nerf is gud

[opaque cipher]

I really don’t know what we should do to Bren tbh

Everything it does Lewis covers

[midnight nimbus]

Bren just needs less hrec and it's fine

[opaque cipher]

And does it even better

[midnight nimbus]

way better than Lewis at range

[compact oxide]

Recon

[opaque cipher]

Yeah horizontal recoil is terrible on it

[solid hinge]

cheers man

[opaque cipher]

But like, Lewis also has high velocity rounds

But it has 3x the rounds

[midnight nimbus]

Bren beats Lewis after like 40m

[solid hinge]

though... that means im gonna have to camp to rank up

[midnight nimbus]

both need less hrec

[opaque cipher]

I suppose Lewis can be more aggressive with the faster ADS

I’m a monster tho

[strong gorge]

tf why would tomi get a nerf

[opaque cipher]

High velocity > faster ADS

[strong gorge]

its already just a jack of all trade kind of gun

[midnight nimbus]

30 max damage is too much bc of attrition

only affects the gun at <10m anyways

[opaque cipher]

Man

Sometimes I kinda wish we’d get the 5 perk tree

Rather than the 4 perk one

[jovial forge]

4 is fine

But I get what you mean

[regal sapphire]

yeah 30 damage is pretty crazy for a rapid fire smg

[compact oxide]

I wish we'd gotten the better tree

[regal sapphire]

4btk

[jovial forge]

The Thompson?

[opaque cipher]

Didn’t Drilling have fast reload instead of fast ADS?

[compact oxide]

The tree looking tree from the beta

[opaque cipher]

Yeah the 5 perk tree seems fine

Because perk 1 and 2 are just QoL

Fast reload, fast ADS

[regal sapphire]

I thought at first the gun that had the 4btk smg was the MP34

[opaque cipher]

That sorta stuff

And the last 3 being the big upgrades that directly impact lethality and overall performance

[jovial forge]

Oh like the magnum ammo from bc2?

[opaque cipher]

Perk 5 also had 3 instead of 2 choices

[old karma]

Give me explosive rounds on the Drilling

[opaque cipher]

Nah slug rounds

[old karma]

God

[opaque cipher]

Triple headshot

[jovial forge]

M1897 with explosive rounds plz

No wait

[opaque cipher]

M1919 explosive rounds

[jovial forge]

Damage might be nerfed

[regal sapphire]

Slugs for the Drilling would be a meme

[opaque cipher]

12g slug tho

It’s pretty damn fun

[regal sapphire]

It's basically a 3 shot rifle

[jovial forge]

Two buck shots, 1 slug

Skill cannon in a sense

[opaque cipher]

The third shot isn’t slug on the drilling

It’s also stupidly long as a rifle round

[jovial forge]

Oh that what that was. Thought it was slugs

[opaque cipher]

Nah

At least slugs aren’t like BF1 slugs

God those things are shit

Massive drop and shit velocity

[jovial forge]

Right

You could see it travel and drop like a rock

[opaque cipher]

Even worse than Martini Henry

[ripe epoch]

Why y'all chatting and not playing?

[minor jacinth]

Suomi best weapon

[jovial forge]

I just got done playing

[opaque cipher]

@ripe epoch out lol

[minor jacinth]

working lol

[opaque cipher]

I’m gonna finish leveling my Drilling

Then destroy with the FG

[jovial forge]

Stole yet another Tiger1 from an idiot that ran outta main cannon ammo. Shredded the team with their own tank with its mg.

[ripe epoch]

I think they nerfed the fg and told nobody

[opaque cipher]

Btw the universal damage bug still exist

[jovial forge]

Always go down with you tank

[opaque cipher]

Sometimes you hit people with 8 or 9

It’s hella weird

[old karma]

Did they drop the damage of the faust on the front and sides of tanks?

I think I remember someone saying that

[jovial forge]

Not yet I think

[thorn heart]

i feel my sense of pride and accomplishment i finished off my medic mastery

in about 2 hours

[jovial forge]

Gratz

[exotic matrix]

anyone have a spare invite for bf5?

[ripe epoch]

Who thinks this game is beast? I absolutely love bf5

[opaque cipher]

Better than BF1 lmao

[midnight nimbus]

idt that's a bug, i think spawn protection carried over from Beta

[thorn heart]

its good in terms of gunplay but awful balance and QOL

[jovial forge]

Game is solid, just needs polish and it'll stand right next to or above BF3 n 4

[midnight nimbus]

L O L

[severe zealot]

New Update New Bugs Welcome To Bugfield V

[opaque cipher]

I don’t have to deal with bullshit spread from BF4 or reverse spread from BF1

So I’m happy

[thorn heart]

it needs a lot of polish and them delaying the update boils my blood

[opaque cipher]

On MG that is

Still despise auto bipod

[jovial forge]

If it fixes the issue they found then Ibdont mind

[thorn heart]

its not coming for a while the update

[midnight nimbus]

> overly animated mess, one dimensional gunplay, and mechanics that discourage top players
> stand alongside BF3

[opaque cipher]

BF3 is still great

[midnight nimbus]

BFV runs the way it does bc of the absolute excess of animations in the game

[opaque cipher]

But then BF3 also had a plague of shotguns

[thorn heart]

gunplay is atleast more fair without spread

[midnight nimbus]

there's still spread jfc

[thorn heart]

minuscule

[opaque cipher]

They need to get auto bipod out

[midnight nimbus]

not at all

[jovial forge]

It's not as stupid as bf1s

[opaque cipher]

It’s hilarious when you pull away when bipoded and start reloading

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 spread is the lowest in the series before BFV came out

[opaque cipher]

Your finger and arm just break

[jovial forge]

You could sit there and watch bullets fly in another direction in cqc

[severe zealot]

We need BF3 Remastered thats the only way to revive Battlefield Series..

[jovial forge]

BF3R would be amazing not gonna lie

[midnight nimbus]

only previous BF spread that's lower than BF1's is low RoF BF4 guns and gripbar BF3 guns

[thorn heart]

remastering games is not an EA thing

it would never come

[opaque cipher]

BF3R: we made the blue filter bluer

[jovial forge]

Lol

[midnight nimbus]

still easier to see than BFV 😂

[opaque cipher]

This tbh

[jovial forge]

One thing I dont miss is the Usas-12 with frag rounds

[opaque cipher]

Oh man

[midnight nimbus]

https://twitter.com/mayberela/status/1063109033413017602?s=21 "BFV visibility is good"

[opaque cipher]

BF3 frag rounds

[jovial forge]

Metro and Siene crossing were nightmares

[opaque cipher]

The big meme everyone hated

[thorn heart]

bfv visibility is god awful

[midnight nimbus]

watch metalslug, he has to spray at dead bodies in BFV bc dead bodies and prone enemies look pretty much the same

[opaque cipher]

Armored jeep are giving me BF4 APC autocannon flashbacks

I hate this

[midnight nimbus]

attrition is bad, but playable, visibility is gamebreaking

[opaque cipher]

Animation @midnight nimbus

[thorn heart]

bfv is definitely catering to campers

bad visibility no spotting

[opaque cipher]

The Drilling absolutely fucking breaks animations

[thorn heart]

attrition so you camp obj

assignments that force you to camp an obj

[jovial forge]

Only time I have issues is when that 1 enemy is hiding really good on the flag

[midnight nimbus]

visibility, attrition, and spotting are the only reasons why BFV isn't as good as BF1

[ripe epoch]

Any way to find out what the population us for bf5

[reef plover]

Wow the prologue is awesome

[jovial forge]

This is when I wish spotting flare was better

[thorn heart]

spotting in bf1 was outrageous

theres no need for 3d spotting behind cover

[midnight nimbus]

dying to behemoths feels bad, dying to people sitting in corners or proning feels worse

[jovial forge]

Basically dying feels bad

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 spotting was excessive, but wasn't game breaking or made the game annoying the play

[thorn heart]

dying to a bomber that comes out of nowhere is even worse

[midnight nimbus]

good thing they carried that over from BF1 😕

[opaque cipher]

I never realized how obnoxious stuka is

Then I played a round of Fjell

[jovial forge]

Only when its good

[opaque cipher]

[thorn heart]

infantry gameplay is literally just kill and then get blown up by some stupid shit

[jovial forge]

And none deal with it

[midnight nimbus]

just don't play CQ

[thorn heart]

fjell conquest is unplayable

[midnight nimbus]

play good modes like Frontlines

too bad they nuked domination in BFV

[thorn heart]

frontlines maps with the ju88 should be abolished

[jovial forge]

No, frontlines is more campy

[midnight nimbus]

frontlines punishes camping

can't rotate objectives properly? get stomped

[thorn heart]

operations frontlines is campy

or really just spawnrapey

[jovial forge]

Most that ironically complain about bombers play modes where its easiest for bombers to farm

[midnight nimbus]

ugh operations in BFV sucks

[thorn heart]

regular frontlines is just capping one flag back and forth until you break them

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, CQ without the unnecessary steps

realistically, everyone likes to play in the same area in CQ

center flags

one objective matters the most

[opaque cipher]

Rotterdam operation on German side is hilarious

[midnight nimbus]

so why not make it the only obj?

[thorn heart]

i kinda like it for the meat grinding

[ripe epoch]

Anyone want capture the flag in bf5?

[opaque cipher]

“WE WERE NEGOTIATING BUT OUR AIRFORCE BOMBED ROTTERDAM”

[jovial forge]

No

[midnight nimbus]

bring back BFH blood money

[opaque cipher]

“WTF NOW OUR SUPPLY IS LOW”

[jovial forge]

Capture the flag in bfv wont work. Flag carrier would be decimated by auto spot

[thorn heart]

@opaque cipher ops in bfv are stupid just bc of that

you can steamroll as germany in rotterdam and theyll bomb the city anyway

[opaque cipher]

It had me cracking up

[jovial forge]

Well its accurate for once

[opaque cipher]

“But we were already negotiating”

[thorn heart]

"we control rotterdam yet our leaders decided to bomb rotterdam"

wtf

if you win day 1 and 2 it should just end

[ripe epoch]

We got a new map coming...

[opaque cipher]

“We failed to secure rotterdam but dutch are pussies”

[thorn heart]

moving to next map anyway is stupis

[opaque cipher]

This is stupid

Devastation should be the last stand map

[thorn heart]

@ripe epoch its pretty bad for infantry

and tank warfare is gonna be a joke with the panzerfaust getting buffed

[ripe epoch]

Dunkirk map?

[midnight nimbus]

the layout for the new map is just hilariously bad

[thorn heart]

they shit it out just bc "live service"

[jovial forge]

Its armored kill

[thorn heart]

and the deadline they didnt even meet

[midnight nimbus]

you can get a piece of paper, close your eyes, and throw darts
each dart is a flag
and it would be better

[thorn heart]

what a joke of a map

[jovial forge]

Panzerstorm equals Armored Kill without an ac130 flag

[thorn heart]

armored kill was boring as hell

[jovial forge]

I liked it

[thorn heart]

the ac130 was cool enough to keep it interesting

[opaque cipher]

They really should make score callin tanks survive rockets if it isn’t that close to them

[thorn heart]

panzerstorm is gonna be stale

[midnight nimbus]

panzerfaust isn't getting a straight upgrade

[thorn heart]

they should just remake classic bf maps in ww2

[opaque cipher]

Like I had a rocket land 10m away from me and blow me up

[midnight nimbus]

less raw damage, but less punishing for glancing blows

[thorn heart]

like caspian or some shit

[ripe epoch]

They need to remake El eilimen from bf42

[jovial forge]

Ac130 was fun til tards camped outside its attack range with mobile aa

[thorn heart]

honestly thought caspian was coming back based off the teaser trailer

but nope

[cerulean finch]

So the 5 is the update?

[thorn heart]

remake metro caspian and w/e and bfv could be revived

[midnight nimbus]

https://youtu.be/eOBF77joV5M this is the real launcher cheese right here

[opaque cipher]

Remake Lockers

[thorn heart]

no way its gonna be the 5th

[jovial forge]

If there is a revamped stage at some point. Please oh please dont make it metro

I

Hate

Metro

[thorn heart]

they have to go through microsoff and sony review again

it has to be atleast a week

[midnight nimbus]

Metro frontlines would be so good

[jovial forge]

No

[cerulean finch]

Xbox leaked it

[opaque cipher]

Lockers Breakthrough

[thorn heart]

frontlines metro yessss

[opaque cipher]

[thorn heart]

rush was ok on metro but frontlines

[solid hinge]

Fuck the customisation I want are gonna cost me like 45k cc and I only have 15k after unlocking shit

[jovial forge]

So much stuff has been nerfed because of OP metro and locker

[thorn heart]

with rhe 45 min timer

amazing

[jovial forge]

Operation whiteout is better

[opaque cipher]

When can we set up custom servers

[midnight nimbus]

16v16 metro is good

[opaque cipher]

I need 2000 ticket aerodrome

[thorn heart]

dont spend cc on cosmetics

[midnight nimbus]

god, i hope RSP finally dies

[thorn heart]

u wont have enough for specializations when u hit lvl 50

[jovial forge]

Guns first, cosmetics second

[thorn heart]

yeah

im only buying small things for now

[solid hinge]

I am level 50 lol I’m screwed

[thorn heart]

lvl 35 closing on 50 fast

[solid hinge]

I got kinda high last night and bought some

[jovial forge]

Level 45 me thinks,

[thorn heart]

lvled u p 5 times today

in like 5 hours of gameplay

[urban crown]

got 50 yesterday but its k D2 dlc drops today 😃

[thorn heart]

why tf is max lvl so low

[viscid cypress]

I'm so tired of this airplane bullshit

[jovial forge]

Baby steps

[solid hinge]

Lol it’s rapid compared to normal on bf

[thorn heart]

its why ive been playing bfv rarely bc i dont want to max out quick

[urban crown]

btw can someone confirm or deny if the december 4 update brings any new guns ?

[opaque cipher]

New guns

[viscid cypress]

One new gun

[solid hinge]

37h to get level 50

[jovial forge]

Confirmed

[thorn heart]

dec 4 update is delayes

[opaque cipher]

Confirmed

[solid hinge]

That’s mad

[thorn heart]

what guns are they do we know

[opaque cipher]

Vickers

[thorn heart]

theyre both assault guns too right smh

[solid hinge]

Mostly bf1 guns or all I think

[urban crown]

damn

[viscid cypress]

There is three guys

guns

[jovial forge]

Imagine the guys who hit 50 a few days into bfv

[urban crown]

i was hoping for some universal weapon

[solid hinge]

Nothing new to battlefield

[thorn heart]

what are they

[urban crown]

that i could actually level up my medic with

[opaque cipher]

Vickers

There are new guns

Just watch the trailer

Slow it down

[jovial forge]

Technically there are more ranks

[viscid cypress]

Just three, and only one this week

[urban crown]

yeah the gun part takes like 1 milisecond in the trailer 😃

[ripe epoch]

Waiting in the M1 Grand and the bar

[jovial forge]

Max rank 50, plus the class ranks and weapon ranks

N vehicles

[urban crown]

rank 20 recon/support/assault and rank 4 medic

for me

[thorn heart]

need more shotguns in v

[viscid cypress]

Why

[jovial forge]

^yes

[thorn heart]

and goddamn give SLRs to medic its unlivable

[viscid cypress]

No

[midnight nimbus]

I miss the BF1 12G Auto

[opaque cipher]

Never

[solid hinge]

good Pablo

join the team

[viscid cypress]

Why the fuck does everyone want medics to be unstoppable again?

[thorn heart]

theres obly like 3 usable SMGs

[midnight nimbus]

now it's just some pozzed slow firing shotgun

[thorn heart]

because right now all we do is revive people and run away like cowards

[opaque cipher]

Yeah I miss the BF1 12g

[thorn heart]

its embarassing

[viscid cypress]

Maybe you do

[opaque cipher]

I can’t even outshoot slow firing SLRs

[jovial forge]

The 12g is in bfv though

[ripe epoch]

Battle royal will kill the other modes ... agree or disagree?

[thorn heart]

bf1 id say after the TTK update was fairly well

[solid hinge]

disagree

[urban crown]

medics are fine in close range

[viscid cypress]

Meanwhile I'm 20 and 3 with a M1928A1

[obsidian fossil]

is it really pablo from the backyardigans?

[midnight nimbus]

yeah but the BFV 12G Auto sucks

[urban crown]

problem is this is a battlefield game and there is not that much close range action in some maps

[thorn heart]

disagree hard because bfv might not even live to see march at this pace

shouldve delayed till march

its a good potential game but really needs a lot of polish

[urban crown]

why would it not live till march ?

[solid hinge]

battle royale is overrated

[urban crown]

other than the usual bf buggyness

[solid hinge]

don't @ me

[thorn heart]

its gonna hurt playerbase even more unless dec 4 saves us

[jovial forge]

Seems like its behavior is the same. Unreliable

[urban crown]

its pretty fine imho

[jovial forge]

Gotta 2 shot to be sVe

[viscid cypress]

Because some people are delusional

[midnight nimbus]

all BFV had to be was a refined BF1 set in WW2

[urban crown]

the balance shit wil lget sorted a bit

[thorn heart]

well playerbase is fucked since the "historical accuracy"

[ripe epoch]

Serversare maxed

[jovial forge]

True

[opaque cipher]

It’s okay to have bad guns medic

[thorn heart]

and then itll die like battlefront 2 unless they turnaround the game

[opaque cipher]

You can stand behind us supports now

[midnight nimbus]

no, every class should have good guns

[urban crown]

i doubt that the whole historical accuracy sjw bs affected a lot

[viscid cypress]

Battlefront 2 isn't dead

[thorn heart]

id say the current version shouldnt have even shipped

[opaque cipher]

We’ll protect you guys like you once protected us

[thorn heart]

yes battlefront 2 isnt dead with 1 new map and 2 heroes

plz dude

[urban crown]

as a BF fan in general (except hardline) i could not care less about all of the "historical accuracy" BS

[thorn heart]

same operations since launch 2 years ago

like only 6 maps dropped

[midnight nimbus]

DICE should just make a standalone Hardline series 😤

[jovial forge]

They got in trouble for the lootbox fiasco

[thorn heart]

battlefront 2 was left to die

[midnight nimbus]

so people who want good infantry play don't have to play BF

[ripe epoch]

Battlefield five Rick's. I live it as is.

[thorn heart]

"live service" is a fail

[ripe epoch]

Rocks

[viscid cypress]

Then don't play it

[jovial forge]

Hardline lacked alot.

[thorn heart]

after march i have a slight feeling battlefield v will die unless something drastic happens

[jovial forge]

Like every other bf

[midnight nimbus]

Hardline was just a refined infantry focused BF4 with terrible weapon balance

[thorn heart]

they might just cut losses and release like 1 map every 3 months

[viscid cypress]

They won't, but okay

[jovial forge]

Battlefield to me is land sea and air combat.

[thorn heart]

thats what they did with battlefront 2

tell me why EA wouldnt pull the same stunt again

[viscid cypress]

If they did that with Battlefield nobody would ever buy it again

[midnight nimbus]

BFH had land sea and air combat?

[thorn heart]

its a live service they dont make any promises to release content

[swift condor]

Great

[thorn heart]

@viscid cypress i mean many arent ever gonna buy it again already

[swift condor]

Now the update is delayed

[midnight nimbus]

attack boats were pretty similar, attack heli in BFH was really good, and the armored trucks were good

[thorn heart]

LAV

i miss that

[jovial forge]

That truck was ass

[ripe epoch]

I don't get it. We live at n a day of being spoiled. Nothing is ever good enough. I'm sorry but I love this game. If you played bf42 and battlefield 2 you would understand how far they have come.

[midnight nimbus]

nah, you could just infantry farm with the M3M armored truck

outside of grenade launcher range

[jovial forge]

There were ot of things in hardline that were just no good overall

[midnight nimbus]

M3M in BFH was disgustingly melty

[thorn heart]

they came far no doubt but EA is starting to kill the franchise

[midnight nimbus]

resource grab in BFH was the best thing to ever come to the BF franchise

[jovial forge]

Hardline was to grindy with no real payoff

Just bragging rights

[thorn heart]

ive been along since bf2 and ive seen the ups and downs

[opaque cipher]

Hardline really just lacked content

And poor balancing choices

[thorn heart]

hardline was boring

[midnight nimbus]

really good maps in BFH too, especially DLC

[viscid cypress]

I've already got my monies worth out of BFV anyway

[jovial forge]

I hated how weapon was done I hardline

[thorn heart]

dry on content, premium divided playerbase hard

[opaque cipher]

All the SMGs were shit in Hardline

[midnight nimbus]

uhhhhhh

[thorn heart]

plz dont tell me that the shitty airdrops are your moneys worth

[opaque cipher]

It’s amazing how engineers manage to play

[midnight nimbus]

did you play with the release K10?

[viscid cypress]

Complains about Premium
Also complains about no Premium

[opaque cipher]

Everything is nerfed

[jovial forge]

To play with the M1911, you had to be on cops, specifically an enforcer and had to grind out hella kills to use it on both sides

[opaque cipher]

Even the knockout

[jovial forge]

Bs to the max

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, once visceral took over, weapon balancing was nuked

[viscid cypress]

I've already played 103 hours, everything else is gravy.

[thorn heart]

@viscid cypress do u really think shitty iron sights for the stg 1-5 is worth the extra 20 bucks

airlifts are a scam

[viscid cypress]

I don't care about airlifts

[midnight nimbus]

who cares about cosmetics

[thorn heart]

then how do you get your extra 20 dollars worth of value if u paid for it

[viscid cypress]

I didn't

[midnight nimbus]

> tfw no gold AK

[jovial forge]

Knockout, that one mechanic gun and machine pistol were op

[thorn heart]

bfv is not worth 80 bucks nor 60 in its current spot

[viscid cypress]

I paid $15 total and I've played 103 hours.

[thorn heart]

paid 15

well theres your answer lol

[midnight nimbus]

BFH launch weapon balance was barely worse than BF4

[mystic hare]

Pablo have you been playing a different game?

[viscid cypress]

Yeah, cause I'm not stupid enough to drop $80 on a questionable game.

[jovial forge]

Oh yeah, hardline had a massive issue with shotguns to for awhile

[viscid cypress]

And instead drop $15 and get everything $80 did

[midnight nimbus]

just play BO4, which is actually good

[jovial forge]

You kill them but theyd still move

[thorn heart]

yeah the one without battle royale and co op and a war story?

[jovial forge]

And killed you somtimes

[viscid cypress]

Nope, Premier gets everything.

[midnight nimbus]

if Hardline had DICE LA handle the weapons, it'd be 9/10

[thorn heart]

and the game they had to push back a month and then pushed back their first big content update?

dont even get me started on how tides of war isnt even here yet

[jovial forge]

If hardline didnt try so hard to be competitive itd probably fair better

[viscid cypress]

Yeah god forbid they haven't provided new content within three weeks of release

[midnight nimbus]

it had good modes for competitive

and DICE has been working on competitive BF for awhile

[ripe epoch]

Anyone seen player models turn gray and shadow like ?

[midnight nimbus]

I don't blame them

[thorn heart]

its not new content it shouldve shipped on release lol

[jovial forge]

But Assault reigned supreme over everyone at the with the best guns

And maps weren't really big enough to out gun em

[midnight nimbus]

eh, BFH support guns were as good or better than assault

[viscid cypress]

Hates the game so much, but wants to constantly talk about it.

Probably doesn't even play.

[jovial forge]

In single fire

[ripe epoch]

---- loves the game

[midnight nimbus]

nah, just microburst

[jovial forge]

Kick was nasty

[midnight nimbus]

just pull down on the mouse lmaoooo

[jovial forge]

Controller for me

[old karma]

Last Tiger looks pretty solid. Hope it doesnt have any stealth sections

[jovial forge]

Same

[midnight nimbus]

microburst does a lot of recoil mitigation for you

[jovial forge]

Lol I bet it will

[ripe epoch]

Who here are PC players?

[gray glade]

i hope i get to destroy shermans

[old karma]

I play on an ipad

[thorn heart]

last tiger is another bad guy turns good story

[old karma]

No its not?

[jovial forge]

Nah

[thorn heart]

it really is

[old karma]

But its not?

[thorn heart]

did you not see the appalled look on the guys fsce when he saw the hanging bodies

[old karma]

Cause they were Germans

[jovial forge]

Turncoats they may be

[old karma]

The Germans were hanging their own people

[jovial forge]

Yup

[thorn heart]

its another story of bad nazi men changing sides

[old karma]

But its not

He's not a nazi

[jovial forge]

Those that chose not to fight were hanged

[old karma]

Hes just a german soldier

[gray glade]

just because he's german and an officer that does not make him a nazi

[thorn heart]

germans hang their own people and hes appalled what do you think hes gonna do as a german officer

[jovial forge]

Even the regular german didnt like nazis

[thorn heart]

hes going to defect

[gray glade]

you need to step away from the "all germans were nazis" mentality

[old karma]

What how

He's not defecting

Hes just trying to make it through

[jovial forge]

Plenty of stories of irl germans hating nazis as well

[thorn heart]

did you play the war story early or something? you seem to know what happens

[old karma]

Same could he said about you

[ripe epoch]

Anyone play heros and generals?

[old karma]

Hypocrit

[gray glade]

i heard the story was that its the end of the war and he's questioning the motives of the leadership and stuff

which doesnt seem unrealistic, plenty of germans did that

[jovial forge]

Could be said about all honestly

Natural thing a soldier would think about to

[obsidian fossil]

Yeah, I hope it's less of "were nazis, were the bad guys" and more of realizing the horrors of war

and questioning all the killing

that would be great

[old karma]

He's a veteran officer from the Africa campaign, its the end of the war, he's just trying to survive while watching his country burn around him

and his own people kill each other

So yeah he's not gonna be happy

[obsidian fossil]

poor peter müller

[junior pier]

no patch today?

[old karma]

nah, delayed for a little bit

[obsidian fossil]

tomorrow

[old karma]

not sure how long

[junior pier]

thanks

[solid hinge]

NO JUMP TONIGHT

[rose basin]

When is the patch then?

[fast sparrow]

So they are buffing the panzerfaust?

[mossy badge]

Patch is tomorrow iirc

[fast sparrow]

They need to change the panzerstorm name to the panzerhunt

[steep cradle]

Wait, so is it patch day today or not? I’ve read something about DELAYED

[rose basin]

Yeah it was delayed

Look #game-news channel

[steep cradle]

Yeah it says delayed but are we expecting it this week or no ETA?

Or is it just the campaign thing that’s been delayed

[karmic hull]

Update got delayed?

No ETA? Jeez

[gray glade]

im guessing its minor

they said its a server issue

[junior iris]

i think it should come out later today

[gray glade]

they said on stream it wasn't today

[junior iris]

oh

[solid hinge]

Well it’s basically whenever they sort this glitch out cause it was finished a week ago

[gray glade]

what was finished?

[mystic hare]

When is it coming out? Tomorrow?

[junior iris]

prob

[mystic hare]

No big deal

Only one day

[gray glade]

they havent said, but on reddit ppl say tomorrow

so who knows 😃

[junior iris]

people arent happt tho

happy*

[mystic hare]

Standard

Tards will always sook

[gray glade]

the only thing im unhappy with is the panzerfaust buff

[mystic hare]

Let them sook

[junior iris]

https://twitter.com/dan_mitre/status/1069786334418497536

[mystic hare]

Why are you upset about that

[junior iris]

they tweeted that 5 hours ago

[mystic hare]

It needs it

[gray glade]

BUFF

it wasnt nerfed

its easier to disable tank parts now

[mystic hare]

I don’t think so

Still have to aim

[junior iris]

i think it should stay as it was

[mystic hare]

I’ve hit tanks side on and done 12 dmg

[junior iris]

that isint much tho

[mystic hare]

Point blank and doing 12 dmg

You think that’s okay

Lel

[junior iris]

well maybe a slight buff

[mystic hare]

It’s not going to make it an OP launcher

[gray glade]

the problem for tanks atm is that alot of hits by panzerfaust is on the turret