One mission where u step on a bouncing Betty and u have to prone quick or die
#battlefield-legacy-titles
opaque hinge
opaque hinge
Same mission where ghost dies rip
royal fox
desert bois
dense bone
the chat?
opaque hinge
Idk what's so funny
opaque hinge
Yeah I cant read that
solid hinge
opaque hinge
It's like white on white
solid hinge
ur not supposed to read it
its not even supposed to be on the right side of the screen
solid hinge
primal sage
Uh whoever said at Level 50 you get more company coins.
Yes that's normal.
EA fixed that.
gray glade
sacred horizon
if only EA allows us to have more than 4 people in a party
primal sage
But then you wouldn't all be in a squad.
sacred horizon
Well, being in a primarly large clan with dozens of players who play BF5 together, we dont mind being split into multiple squads in the same server.
We used to do it in BF4 all the time
but now, we are limited to play with 4 unless we manually join the same server but at that moment, we cant control which side we join
dense bone
im always surprised they havent implemented a large group kind of scenario
i imagine they dont want a match to be completely blown out
sacred horizon
I feel it removes the aspect of "Platoons"
platoon are multiple squads
We cant enjoy our "Platoon" when only 4 people are allowed to play together at once
fathom oxide
man the music in this game is terrible
slim echo
@candid kestrel Hoi
sacred horizon
i turn off music in games
candid kestrel
hoi
upbeat cypress
If there are many members in a platoon and they are in a server EA should allow them in a 1 squad
hope they add that
sacred horizon
That is something I hope too
upbeat cypress
but too bad for me i dont have a platoon cause i dont have online and real life friends that play battlefield
all i do is talk and roleplaying to myself
sacred horizon
well if you played PC I would of invited you to play with us as a Pubbie lol
dense bone
i mean, you can rent your own server
at least that way people joining can expect to get stomped if its a clan server
sacred horizon
There isnt server rental yet
dense bone
no, but it usually comes
solid hinge
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THESE WAR STORIES ARE TOO HARD
icy sluice
lol
autumn nest
?
dense bone
i know i would hate to do quickplay and get into a server that is 50% a squad
solid hinge
I STRUGGLE WITH HARDCORE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH
solid hinge
holy shitr
the bots are so annoying
they know where you are 24/7
and stukas rape u
sacred horizon
Bots are bots and they will Bot-ter you
primal sage
Sadly it’s better to be stealthy in some levels than others.
dense bone
i really want to sit down with the people in charge with balancing and ask wtf they were thinking
solid hinge
i cant stealth
solid hinge
stealth requires patiency and battlefield is not a patient game
primal sage
Then again I played MGS and Deus Ex.
sacred horizon
have you tried running around naked to reduce the sound effects of your character
gray saffron
if you're playing on hardcore, rush as amuch as you can
primal sage
Dude trust me, in Under No Flag, and Nordlys, they are patient.
Except in Nordlys’ second mission.
Where you can freeze to death.
Though I can admit.
The first part of Under No Flag is retardedly hard to sneak.
It’s cause there’s a fucking Flamethrower man in front of your objective.
solid hinge
You use the shotgun on him
solid hinge
I was on hardcore lol
primal sage
Well you need to disable the alarms first. And you CAN do that without raising an alert.
I’ve done it.
You need to crawl though.
dreamy lintel
gray saffron
getting a cup of tea, it's british
maiden steppe
Has anyone confirmed is BFV suppression does anything like prevent health regen, or make health regen slower?
icy sluice
There is
maiden steppe
you have health regen when you use a med pouch, or when you're recovering like 20-30 HP after being shot
primal sage
Getting shot can put on a cap.
Your max health may be reduced but you can regenerate to the new max.
A health pouch fixes this.
solid hinge
WHAT THE FUCK IS A LEWES BOMB
maiden steppe
i guess nobody knows what suppression does beyond darkening your peripheral vision then
dense bone
also tags them
maiden steppe
ah right, if you're using the Machine Gunner role fur Support
primal sage
Lewes bomb?
It’s the planted charge.
That tiny little sac thing you plant when you interact with an objective?
maiden steppe
tbh the whole spotting when suppressed perk is pretty OP
just prefire where you think an enemy is and he'll get 3D spotted
primal sage
But getting suppressed is harder than before.
dense bone
its better than just clicking on them for suppresion
maiden steppe
then multiple people will shoot at em
primal sage
It only counts if you’re 100% suppressed.
maiden steppe
from my experience it wasn't that hard to suppress people, esp. with big mag machine guns like Lewis or the MMGs
dense bone
i mean, the amount of time it takes to kill vs suppress
doesnt seem all that different, so ideally, kill them outright
maiden steppe
i find that people are pretty quick to get back in cover when i dink them in the head twice with tap fire
so i might as well spray to suppress and spot
dense bone
two tap hs doesnt kill?
solid hinge
Aaaaaand he’s got his pointless gas mask get in
Those first assignments toook me one very short frontlines game on fjell and the first 4 minutes of an operation to do lol
maiden steppe
oh yeah you'll be breezing by the starter assignments
just wait 'til you start working towards the class mastery and weapon mastery assignments
solid hinge
this campaign makes me want to suicide
maiden steppe
bro don't do it ww2 is over you're gonna be fine
dense bone
are weapon masteries hard?
icy sluice
Some are
ruby tangle
Heals 18,594 Top 2%
Revives 633 Top 4%
Resupplies 2,854 Top 1%
Am I the only one who ever resupplies/revives or what? 😄
maiden steppe
the bolt-action rifle mastery assignments are probably the hardest, but every other mastery assignment is sufficiently challenging
icy sluice
Get 20 kills in one round while attacking an objective
maiden steppe
Support Mastery III getting 20 kills in one life, couldn't have done that without a great squad that revived each other the whole time
icy sluice
or get 10 kills in one life while attacking in an objective
leaden crypt
yo
icy sluice
What Doctor?
dense bone
@ruby tangle thats based on total, which mostly indicates you play a lot and thats it
maiden steppe
also damn @ruby tangle are you just throwing ammo around all game? lol
ruby tangle
@maiden steppe yes I am
solid hinge
Btw whoever said wait till you unlock the class mastery assignments I’ve done them
ruby tangle
I permanently spam 3
solid hinge
That’s what I was saying
ruby tangle
when I play medic or support
maiden steppe
I used to be top 1% resupplies in BF1, but in BFV I often find that people don't need ammo
ruby tangle
my thumb hurts when I stop playing bf
maiden steppe
they're just maxed out and I can't throw ammo at em
ruby tangle
you get like 5 throws at the start of every round
dense bone
they should have a heal teammate per minute and ammo crate teammate per minute
icy sluice
Just get a macro that spams 3 for you
ruby tangle
and then you walk with the team and spam 3 some more
dense bone
i hate total stats
maiden steppe
I wish I could equip ammo pouch + ammo crate like I could in BF1
it's actually super effective for both lone wolf and team play
ruby tangle
support 15h
medic 13h
maiden steppe
also when I switched to ammo crate my Support SPM dropped massively
ruby tangle
also I played assault/recon only the last 20 hours
maiden steppe
I guess nobody likes taking from my ammo crate
ruby tangle
for level up
dense bone
its like saying my total score is top 1% other people must suck
but youre spm is 300 and theirs is 1k
they just have a third of your playtime though
maiden steppe
1000 SPM in BFV is gonna be a bitch.
maiden steppe
average SPM is overall lower than it is in previous battlefield games
maiden steppe
568 would've been the median in BF4
solid hinge
finally
maiden steppe
568 here is an accomplishment
dense bone
kd isnt a real stat
maiden steppe
K/D is a useful stat if you have tickets at stake (i.e. Conquest, attacking on Breakthrough, etc.)
dense bone
that bomber abuser that went 103-0 doesnt show hes good
maiden steppe
but don't worry about it if there's no tickets
solid hinge
score doesnt matter cuz u can just spam bandages and shit
dense bone
spm matters
solid hinge
kills dont get much
dense bone
spm, win %
ruby tangle
Also back to the resupply stats: I'm sure I have many resupplies/heals for my playtime with classes
compared to others
maiden steppe
SPM, KPM, and K/D most definitely do matter. One without the other doesn't make for a good player.
dense bone
spm and win % are the two main factors
maiden steppe
High K/D + Low SPM/KPM = you just hang back a lot to avoid the action
ruby tangle
win % says nothing about your skill
dense bone
you can have a shit kd and do fine
pulsar vector
ANY1 NEED 1
maiden steppe
Low K/D + High SPM/KPM = you just rush too much, die on flag, and waste tickets for your team
dense bone
my kd is pretty meh, but im constantly taking obj and supporting team
maiden steppe
also probably can't defend a flag to save your life
dense bone
but you cant come to the conclusion from just kd that they cant defend a flag
solid hinge
Mine was 2.1 before I levelled up my medic class
dense bone
win % > spm > kd
upbeat cypress
im on a new account so i dont know whats my total kd 
solid hinge
Now it’s down to 1.9
ruby tangle
man why cant you see v1 in tracker or ingame
dense bone
im around 1.7, because im forcing myself to get good with the suomi on all maps
ruby tangle
I want my to see my biggest multi kill
dense bone
and that just doest wrk
maiden steppe
Yeah you can. If you have low K/D then you're less likely to contribute to holding off a push to your flag.
dense bone
likely
but you cant say that for sure
if win% is high, than they are doing something right
solid hinge
I have 53% wins 1.8 kd now damn, 452 spm
maiden steppe
for a single instance, yes. Over the course of multiple matches, multiple flags defended, no.
dense bone
what if they are pure vehicle killer?
solid hinge
It’s saying my longest headshot is 244m but I know for a fact it’s much higher
dense bone
they go even with vehicles but they constantly win
icy sluice
It's weird how I got vastly positive each match but my K/D remains the exact same.
ruby tangle
@solid hinge mine says 200 something but I dont remember ever getting a 200m headshot
ruby tangle
or with the zh or g43
solid hinge
how do i destroy objectives with the plane
dense bone
kd is the least important of the meaningful stats imo
solid hinge
I got a tank headshot the other day
its not working i cant destroy objective with the bombs
ruby tangle
@dense bone winrate imo
dense bone
yep
dense bone
win % > spm > kd imo
ruby tangle
but not solo
maiden steppe
It's still true that good players often won't have low K/D
solid hinge
Accuracy .1 yes lads missing 9/10 shots
icy sluice
Win % is 53 for me
dense bone
how not?
solid hinge
Highest killstreak 17 but I know that it’s 31
ruby tangle
as solo player you can't carry your team
solid hinge
Because I got that on frontlines
dense bone
you cant carry
maiden steppe
I only vaguely remember my own stats, but it's 506 SPM, 3.03 K/D, 1.4 KPM, 59% winrate.
dense bone
but you can influence
ruby tangle
well it happens so often to me, that I have 3k score difference from the second place
and my team just sucks
solid hinge
Tbf I end up most games with a kd of between 2 and 3 how I’m only on 1.8 idk
maiden steppe
hard to pad SPM when you're staying off the flags and trying to shoot people that run in between them.
ruby tangle
you can carry as premade squad
maiden steppe
but just because that yields low score doesn't mean it isn't helpful
ruby tangle
thats why win% isnt a stat you should focus on imo
solid hinge
I’m getting a kpm
maiden steppe
it's easy to pad your SPM just by fighting on the flag but that doesn't mean you always need to
ruby tangle
score/min is the stat you should focus on
dense bone
at the end of the day, winning is the main point, so the higher the better
maiden steppe
also win-rate is inconsistent unless you're clan-stacking or playing in a good squad
solid hinge
I reckon unless you are a very good squad leader win % is pretty much down to your team not you
maiden steppe
solo players often can't do enough to alter the course of a match
ruby tangle
@maiden steppe my words
maiden steppe
yup yup lol
ruby tangle
im 100% solo player
dense bone
i find that weird because i play solo or with 1 other person and in almost every bf game i have had a higher than average win %
solid hinge
As a squad leader I have changed the outcome of a lot of matches but you need another squad to assist
dense bone
so im just randomly consistent with that?
maiden steppe
as long as it's above 50 you're probably doing something right for your team
maiden steppe
I had like 70% winrate when I started out with this game, dropped to 55, slowly increasing to 60 now.
dense bone
but i had some unfortunate bomb meme rounds where we got destroyed
solid hinge
Bf1 mine was 68 but then I had a top squad who have only just joined me this year
maiden steppe
that 70% winrate, ironically, was when I focused on padding my K/D to get it to a place where I want to sustain it
all conquest matches, so I guess the ticket bleed dynamics helped
dense bone
why the fuck would you pad your kd?
solid hinge
I have one of those squads who instead of ptfo-ing change the game by capturing objective after objective
ruby tangle
it feels so good to go back to my loved fg42 after I played semi weapons only
uneven maple
Stats mean nothing as long as you have fun
ruby tangle
for the level ups
maiden steppe
My goal is to keep my K/D above 3 while padding my SPM/KPM through aggressive objective play
uneven maple
That’s great
dense bone
but im never padding my stats
uneven maple
Some people are dicks about it though
solid hinge
Tbf kd wise I don’t normally care team comes first but it does annoy me when it seemingly goes down for no reason, I’ve only dropped 5 or 6 negative kds this year and two of them were as a fighter pilot where the other team was good
dense bone
just trying to win in the least bitch way i can
maiden steppe
as infantry only yeah.
ruby tangle
thats a dream for me
uneven maple
Dick = opposite of good
maiden steppe
I've been doing alright so far.
pulsar vector
NEED 2 IS SQUAD 9
maiden steppe
I'm not gonna go much higher than 3 K/D unless I play really passively and don't do anything to help my team
ruby tangle
im too impatient and unaware @maiden steppe
maiden steppe
it's only gonna be a slow increase from here
solid hinge
3 kd I mean I’m gonna be the one to say it man probably plays like a gaaaaaping c*nt
gray saffron
who needs a positive k/d when you're having fun? ❤
ruby tangle
do you choose weapons by stats or look/history?
solid hinge
Probably sitting there with the ke7 all game
dense bone
i just like that i dont play like a bitch at all and have good stats
solid hinge
Or bombing
ruby tangle
ke7 players 
maiden steppe
wrong I sit there with a Lewis all game, shoot people on a flag until I'm comfortable enough to push it.
solid hinge
I always play for the team but stats are a bit important for me
dense bone
ew
solid hinge
Haha course you do
dense bone
im hardly never not running
solid hinge
Rt
maiden steppe
it's useless to run to a flag if several people are sitting on it, holding multiple angles, and I just die immediately
it's a senseless waste of tickets
gotta pick off people on it first
maiden steppe
lewis is actually an extremely good gun this time around
dense bone
if you aint running, i dont count your skill
maiden steppe
way better than it was in BF1
it sits in between KE7 and Bren for firepower and accuracy
and it's got a huge mag even if you don't take extended mags
solid hinge
Kd as assault 2, kd as recon 2.3 kd as medic 0’9 kd as support 1.7 for me
ruby tangle
fg42, g43, mp40, zh 29 😩
solid hinge
Medic kd kills me
maiden steppe
I refuse to use FG42 until they fix the AA sight alignment
dense bone
shits rough
really rough
started playing support
i think i got it to a higher level in a shorter amount of time
they really gutted medics
its sad
ruby tangle
support:1.61 medic: 1.39 assault: 1.62 Recon 1.40
maiden steppe
K/D is probably not as important for medics. Your job is mainly to prevent ticket bleed by rezzing teammates.
so it's OK if you make a trade once in a while with a death
dense bone
im trying to kill everyone, rezz everyone, and not play like a bitch and get that win
solid hinge
This says something about my playstyle lol as a support player I’ve killed 77 people but resupplied 421 and revived 287
dense bone
thats how i play
maiden steppe
but don't just go and senselessly revive someone while 5 people are staring at a withering body
ruby tangle
@maiden steppe my heals are top 2% and my resupplies are top 1% 😎
solid hinge
Lol don’t join my squad
maiden steppe
awesome man
dense bone
not much else
dense bone
is it a total?
uneven maple
Favorite Bourbon for BFV players????
dense bone
if its a total number, then yes it does
maiden steppe
tbh playing a lot does count. I have a full time job so I barely have time to play BFV on weekdays.
solid hinge
Sounds like when you do no ones got time for you
maiden steppe
in college I played fucktons of BF1 and got top 1% in things like support, MG15/Lewis usage, resupplies, etc.
solid hinge
Sorry I’ve just had a rough couple games today playing against nonces who use support and are gonna get melted after the update
dense bone
im just saying someone with a 1.0 kd but played a lot and has 20k kills and is top 1% isnt better than the person with a 2.5kd but only has 10k kills and is in top 20%
maiden steppe
BFTracker needs weapon rankings again
solid hinge
I would rather have the guy who kills 10 and revives 40 than the guy who kills 50
maiden steppe
I wanna see where I rank up with all other Lewis or Bren players
icy sluice
Can't wait for Symthic
maiden steppe
ironically my KPM with Bren is higher than that of Lewis
icy sluice
Gewehr 1-5 feels so good to use now 👀
dense bone
i mean sure, but heim saying hes top this or that when its a total count doesnt mean much
ruby tangle
bf1 tracker is so much better
icy sluice
Well, it's still in Alpha isn't it?
dense bone
you COULD be one of the best support medics out there, but we dont have those stats
solid hinge
Would you rather finish top with 30 kills or finish 3rd with 200
dense bone
id rather get the win
solid hinge
That is mental
icy sluice
Like top 2% for Defensive Score
dense bone
see those stats are more telling
ruby tangle
😡
dense bone
games need a pm stat on everything
maiden steppe
i didn't even know healing per minute and resupplies per minute existed
that's way more useful
solid hinge
As a medic I’m Reving one and a half pm
maiden steppe
now I know what stat I need to pad next
dense bone
blah
solid hinge
Dude stay padding
dense bone
i hate hearing that
maiden steppe
KPM, SPM, Resupplies PM
solid hinge
So boring
dense bone
stat padding is one of the worst things for gaming
solid hinge
Do you just get off bf and stare a the wall till bedtime man
So boring
Man goes to the pub and orders milk
maiden steppe
Stat padding has taken me closer to being a better player, but I do recognize when I'm in the wrong for doing so.
dense bone
i just play to the best of my abilities/knowledge and let the stats be what they are
solid hinge
Like got nothing against stat padding but would you not rather have fun playing the game
Like most people here could just stat pad and come out with the same results
maiden steppe
this sort of goal setting forces me to play more aggressively, find ways to go on epic flanks to straight up stop a push to a flag, or cap it more easily
it also forces me to find ways to improve my aim and game-sense.
solid hinge
You absolutely do not sound aggressive lol
maiden steppe
not now with 1.4 KPM
I've been steadily increasing that and I'm looking to surpass 2 KPM
solid hinge
That’s not aggressive
maiden steppe
for context, shroud has like 2.3 KPM
he's an extremely aggressive player and has some of the best aim out of any CS:GO + PUBG player
solid hinge
Aggressive players don’t have 3kds unless they are mentally good
Aggressive players don’t play support either
maiden steppe
with the lower TTK you absolutely can be aggressive with an LMG
just as you can be an aggressive sniper
charred heron
Most players who play a support class don't do their roles anyways
uneven maple
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
charred heron
And when they do it, then because they're forced to and under great anger
solid hinge
I mean even when I go recon I am more aggressive then all of the support players in the game
charred heron
"How dare you to ask me for ammo the entire time. That ammo is just for me"
And most Medics have the situational awareness of a rock and run around with a blindfold
solid hinge
Tbf im a moronic sniper
uneven maple
I spam ammo crates all day
maiden steppe
hey, I do my fair share of resupplies, but sometimes I either forget or I'm not gonna go out of my way to resupply you at the cost of losing tickets
solid hinge
Yes that’s me
uneven maple
Love it and I revive
maiden steppe
players will do fine with 1 magazine in reserve
solid hinge
Blindfolded medic right here
uneven maple
Much to my dismay
maiden steppe
most of them die before using more than one magazine anyway
dense bone
jesus, my stats are "mediocre" to me, probably mostly due to fucking medic
severe wraith
I just run out like an idiot and save my teammate
solid hinge
Yes
maiden steppe
probably true since I play Breakthrough lol
solid hinge
Course you do
maiden steppe
in Conquest it's easier to just run around and cap flags for free score
the real challenge is in holding a flag
solid hinge
I mean the real challenge is being able to capture and defend
dense bone
the challenge is winning..
solid hinge
^
dense bone
you dont sit a point if no one is there
charred heron
The real challenge is getting your team outside your spawn sometimes
dense bone
waiting
charred heron
Because they can't even manage that
dense bone
idk if youre waiting
but im just saying, win % is end all
if youre not padding win% idk what to tell you
maiden steppe
I'm the type of person that goes to cap or defend the least contested flags, holding off the 2-3 people that bother to go check up on it.
solid hinge
Trouble is with bf players since 1 they are perfectly happy to sit on their home objective and spam lmgs till their heart is contempt, even if they are trapped
maiden steppe
In fact, winning in Conquest is usually a matter of defending the flags closest to your HQ if your team is holding a 3-cap
if one of those flags gets lost the entire match gets thrown into chaos
people running back and forth, no clear frontline established
solid hinge
I man you just criticised players for capping objectives for free pints
I would say going and capping the least man flags is that
maiden steppe
I didn't say that as criticism. I said that it was easy to do. There's nothing wrong with having a zerg of people rushing a single flag or two
solid hinge
Don’t get me wrong I do that a lot I’ll pick up an stg and take a flag with players unaware
maiden steppe
but SOMEBODY has to care about the empty flags
dense bone
not if they are empty...
solid hinge
Yeah I do, I take them hold it till it’s safe if it’s empty I move on to the next one
But then I’m a super aggressive player
maiden steppe
there's always those few fuccbois that go for the cheeky back-cap
and I'm usually there to stop them
dense bone
or you can leave, try to help elsewhere, if it starts getting taken, go back
solid hinge
I mean I would rather have me on my team, someone else who’s gonna finish top 3 without getting top 5 kills
maiden steppe
it lets the rest of my team fight at ease with a 3-cap
dense bone
points dont cap instantly, you can go routes where its likely people are coming from
but i think youre worried about stat padding too much to take those risks imo
solid hinge
I normally plan my captures on where I can immobilise the enemy team first
maiden steppe
By the time a point starts getting capped and I'm on another flag, I'd be willing to suicide and redeploy just to cap it back again.
solid hinge
If you can take a flag and get 2,3 kills then that’s great but if you can get a squad to put the enemy in a position where they are in trouble that’s better
maiden steppe
but usually there's a full squad holding multiple angles on the flag already by the time I get there.
solid hinge
And I’m sorry no one with a 3kd knows what redeploying is
maiden steppe
well I do :)
solid hinge
No stat padder would ever redeploy
maiden steppe
3 K/D isn't even stat-padder stats. People who are super serious about padding K/D will usually grab a vehicle or just sit back as a recon.
But now I care about KPM and SPM
severe wraith
Is building good for spm?
maiden steppe
usually involves taking more risks to PTFO
maiden steppe
yeah, it's also the best opportunity to try and finish fights as quickly as possible.
solid hinge
Like I’m not seeing support players this year take any risks, unless moving two feet to the right is a risk
fleet moth
That's called an evasive manuever bro
solid hinge
I would rather have one ptfo player going round and taking objectives than five stat padders not affecting the game
maiden steppe
who says that stat padders are not affecting the game
fickle sluice
does anyone know a BFV stats tracker
maiden steppe
the guy who's topping the scoreboard with 4 K/D is doing more to alter the course of the match than a "PTFO player" that suicide-runs to a flag
fickle sluice
?
maiden steppe
he's simultaneously padding K/D, SPM, and KPM by playing to win like that.
maiden steppe
topping people going 4 to 1 doesn't count lol
solid hinge
I still normally drop between a 2 and 3kd unless I’m a medic
fickle sluice
does anyone know a BFV stats tracker?
maiden steppe
this is why KPM and SPM are important.
fickle sluice
Like to check my kd and stuff
maiden steppe
it's usually what leads to top of scoreboard
solid hinge
Yeah spm is
fleet moth
Yeah even if you go 100-0, you didn't contribute as much as somebody who went 10-20 and capped 8 flags
solid hinge
I mean if you are console go to profile, pc just google it
fickle sluice
Okay
maiden steppe
uh, the guy going 100-0 bled a fuckton of tickets and most likely prevented enemies from walking between flags
I saw that out of tankers in BF1
super steamroll
wheat willow
im the backcappin fuccboi
fleet moth
lol Conquest is all about ticket drain. Holding flags drains tickets more than going 100-0
solid hinge
I mean what?
ruby tangle
company coin problem getting fixed and rank 50 players get coins based on their hours after they reached rank 50 😃
solid hinge
Stopping people walking between flags
maiden steppe
Conquest is just as much about ticket bleed as it is about ticket drain.
wheat willow
lets not forget ticket entropy
solid hinge
I mean not all ptfo players have bad kds
I’m ptfo af and I drop a 2+ on assault and recon which I play most
fleet moth
You can have 4 players go 60-3 and still lose 500-0
maiden steppe
What if your team wants to PTFO but are incapable of doing so because the guy going on a killstreak with a tank is holding you back
that's what happened in several cases in my BF1 matches
solid hinge
assault class
fleet moth
It doesn't matter how many kills you get if you don't cap the flags
You'll still lose
solid hinge
You do realise the assault class exists right
It’s not just all spamming support this game
maiden steppe
yes, but the assaults were clearly having a hard time doing anything since this tanker knew when to retreat for self-repair
it's not like he was sitting out in the open
solid hinge
So playing support with a tank around is more helpful?
maiden steppe
he had ridge cover to exploit and other teammates to stop pushes to the tank
solid hinge
Just saying I spawn in twice max to take out a tank
And normally I’m not the only one attacking it
maiden steppe
if only tankers were that scary in BFV
usually it takes 2 people to instakill them here
boring
bring back BF1 tanks from launch day
solid hinge
I can’t remember the last time there was a tank dominating so much a support player camping on an objective was the most useful player in the game
maiden steppe
Back in BF1 I was constantly spamming resupplies to my assaults so that they had infinite rockets
helped for taking out behemoths
but in any case what you said has fuck-all to do with the points that I was making earlier
solid hinge
If we didn’t have assault then tanks would dominate, if we didn’t have medics then no one would get revived, if we didn’t have recons or support then......
maiden steppe
good players making good players usually have the aim, game-sense, and sense of teamwork to take their stats higher
solid hinge
No one would just stat pad?
maiden steppe
I see these stats as a sign of progress when I'm trying to play effectively.
solid hinge
Like fr if you asked me 100 games who the most useless person in it was I would say the stat padder protecting the unmanned objective
fleet moth
Is engineer called assault now?
solid hinge
Bf1- players what’s an engigeer
maiden steppe
it fucking sucks to lose the flags closest to your HQ because then your team can't establish a clear frontline
throws people into cognitive dissonance
solid hinge
Fr tho I’ve never come out of a game thinking that guy who went 60-7 but didn’t capture any objectives and finished 6th was so helpful
maiden steppe
they're only buffing reload but they're nerfing horizontal recoil and removing its vertical recoil specialization
solid hinge
I’ve come out of tons of games thinking that guy was useful oh he had a shit kd oh well he was there in every cap
maiden steppe
so double whammy
granite rune
hmm
maiden steppe
coming out of a game with 2 K/D and high SPM isn't bad at all
but I'd rather push the limit and do that with higher K/D
granite rune
well lets just see if they can fix bugs
maiden steppe
this involves getting better at aiming
solid hinge
We should poll it
maiden steppe
and predicting where enemies are gonna push
solid hinge
Who is more useful
granite rune
cause it takes too long to load from game to menu xd
solid hinge
Stat padders or ptfo players
granite rune
wut?
solid hinge
We should poll who is more useful stat padders or ptfo players
maiden steppe
boomers with a false concept of PTFO (namely suicide-rushing a flag to waste tickets) will vote PTFO, in contrast to the false concept that all stat padders are just fuccbois that stay away from the action.
maiden steppe
git gud
solid hinge
I am good
granite rune
just be mind full of your surroundings
solid hinge
I just don’t play like a nonce
granite rune
especially when reviving
solid hinge
What’s a revive
granite rune
k
solid hinge
That’s my impression of 90% of support players
maiden steppe
I could use improvements but so far I'm doing something right by maintain 60% winrate as a solo infantry player.
solid hinge
maiden steppe
You're never actually good unless you've tasted some form of the competitive scene
that's the way I view it
always keep striving to improve
solid hinge
I mean if you want to prove stat padders are more useful poll it
I won’t cause I already know the outcome
maiden steppe
well I tried to make the statement earlier that padding K/D is useless if it doesn't come with high SPM + KPM but
apparently that went over your head
and it also went over your head that I'm goal-setting for better performance
solid hinge
Yeah but stat padders don’t have high spms
Because they don’t do anything but kill people
maiden steppe
yeah keep telling yourself that
good players will naturally earn better stats over time, so it only makes sense that it's a sign of progress
solid hinge
Do you want to know what the difference between a stat padder and a ptfo player is?
The one big difference
maiden steppe
I'm done with this circular argumentation.
solid hinge
i hate stat padders
I ptfo player could go stat pad and stat pad really well. I stat padder would get slaughtered trying to ptfo
Ptfo takes skill, stat padding takes up your time
maiden steppe
i mean, I was never arguing that PTFO players couldn't get good stats
I literally said that good players will naturally have better stats over time
they're not opposing ideals
solid hinge
I have stats that are well above average and I ptfo
I normally finish above the stat padders getting wayyyyy less kills
maiden steppe
but it's not unreasonable to have some form of numeric goal-setting while you're out trying to be a better PTFO player.
icy sluice
Stat Padders (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
opaque hinge
put that table back sir
icy sluice
┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
opaque hinge
ty
icy sluice
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
opaque hinge
solid hinge
Who is the more useful player fr tho the 51-5 guy who finishes second or the 29-13 guy who captures 14 flags who finishes first?
opaque hinge
the guy who finishes first obviously
opaque hinge
y do u think he finished in 1st
icy sluice
Who is more useful, someone sitting down 200m from all objectives not using spotting scope or anything or the afk guy?
solid hinge
Finished 2k above second
solid hinge
Afk guy provides a spawn point
maiden steppe
The first time I used the spotting scope I thought this was OP AF
you can literally just sit there hovering your aim point over enemies, and people will start firing at them from multiple angles
opaque hinge
yep
solid hinge
spotting scope good
solid hinge
slows their roll also
opaque hinge
hah nvm jokes on you!
solid hinge
ppl dont push as fast under fire
opaque hinge
whats your #1 and #2
solid hinge
1.) smoke launcher
2.) panzerfaust
3,) sporting scope
opaque hinge
ic
solid hinge
supply drop> v1
Nty
A well dropped v1 can change a game
Ok how do I post images here
v1s end game stat padders
Like someone got 13 clearing out the cathedral on devastation killing a late in the game 50 point swing
opaque hinge
gotta use imugr
solid hinge
I joined this fucking discord explicitly to post a Battlefield meme
opaque hinge
and yeah i've won games with a v1 before
solid hinge
worn cave
random thought: I'm against hacking but it would be pretty fun to play on a server with unlimited smoke launcher ammo
solid hinge
That meme was terrible
opaque hinge
yeah it really was
solid hinge
Yeah I would love that
None of you play Bad Company 2 anymore ):<
Smoke everywhere
solid hinge
or your team could have already won with ammo health gadget n grenades
solid hinge
Even then it’s a terrible meme
worn cave
@opaque hinge not even a meme, BC2 is old as time anymore lol
worn cave
favorite part of BC2 was melee-sashing chainlink fences into bits
drilling people in the face with the repair tool was a personal fave too haha
solid hinge
Support should get smoke grenades
opaque hinge
🎵 true as it can be 🎵
solid hinge
i still play BC2
nova gazelle
solid hinge
BC2 is a classic
opaque hinge
BF2 is a classic
solid hinge
Why is my meme bad
opaque hinge
both
solid hinge
The SV98 do be hittin doe
worn cave
SV98 vereh gewd tru nuf
opaque hinge
it was just 10/10 bad
solid hinge
I FINALLY COMPELTED UNDER NO FLAG IN HARDCORE
olive crescent
@nova gazelle ke7 is good its not getting a giant nerf but rather added recoil
solid hinge
and it was beautiful
i hope that german escapes the car though else he will starve to death
opaque hinge
spoiler aleeert
opaque hinge
solid hinge
You guys still play BC2 right
olive crescent
Eh the war stories arent all that great that spoilers would really ruin them
opaque hinge
but now i know that it never shows him escaping
and yeah the war stories are pretty bad
solid hinge
no it just shows him being like hello hello is anyone there please
and i hope he escapes
yes i got all letters and challengers
i can read letters now
olive crescent
I need to finish under no flag and nordlys challenges. Just not feeling them atm. Got all the challenges and letters for the last one for my coupe coupe
cursive scaffold
The singleplayer’s more fun to play than BF1 imo
olive crescent
Idk. The prologue was great. Better than BF 1s but overall I think the war stories from 1 were better.
solid hinge
Did BFV even release yet
lyric abyss
Yeah, three times.
solid hinge
Lmfao
olive crescent
Yup. Not even Skyrim holds that record for 1 year lol
rocky verge
The challange for killing a stuka with a ground weapon is easy
Just use bren gun
Or dmg it enought where it smoking then shoot it
fallow venture
does the AA gun count
worn cave
There anything usually keeping a transport from running right flank of Hamada CQ Assault as attackers to backcap? I know that's the preferred strategy but do defending tanks spawn in/do assaults have a chance to run to that side? Haven't tried it myself yet
pulsar vector
NEED TWO IN SQUAD 14
little zenith
The asians servers are again full of chinese hackers
nice
and as usual dice can't do shit
solid hinge
asians r just good gamers???????????????
fathom pebble
@pulsar vector use #lfg-pc, #lfg-xbox or #lfg-playstation
worn yarrow
ah the meme returns
opaque hinge
Heh
little zenith
explain how you get 150+ kills on a conquest and die 2 times.
worn cave
^yeah, easy ina bomber lol
opaque hinge
DICE dont care about bombers being op
maiden steppe
the china situation in PUBG is even worse with its new matchmaking update
opaque hinge
They're not even nerfing them in next patch
worn yarrow
deleted pubg and haven tlooked back since that desert map was released
opaque hinge
I'm just glad I dont have to play on Asian servers
dense bone
had a bomber go 103-0 my match...
solid hinge
same lmao
little zenith
china is full of labors and cheap hackers
opaque hinge
Ffs dice fix the bombers
little zenith
they work in factories all day just to feel good hacking on bfv
maiden steppe
you may wanna come back to PUBG because they have a 4x4 map that plays fast-paced with excellent loot
solid hinge
no
solid hinge
its just their culture
If you want dead bombers go on spitfire
it has nothing to do with feeling good
opaque hinge
They have to hack
little zenith
chinese are the worst tho
solid hinge
Say youre too bad at flying???
opaque hinge
Chinese are told hack to be good
little zenith
why we aint nukin' em
solid hinge
Too bad
solid hinge
Chinese students also cheat a lot
opaque hinge
Ok too far
solid hinge
and no one cares
worn cave
parents of kids at a school in china got pissed that the school wasnt allowing them to cheat because cheating is so common over there, they were saying it disadvantaged the kids to not let them cheat lol
solid hinge
why do i get medals like crazy
opaque hinge
Sorry mod in training
opaque hinge
solid hinge
Fly that bitch pland yagaman and fuck that bomber in the ass
dense bone
nah im just trying to talk bf and its getting drowned out by pubg and chinese
little zenith
Can dice put all the chinese into locked servers
dense bone
thats the problem tuaam, it shouldnt be the only way
solid hinge
Yes
dense bone
infantry can do nothing vs them
little zenith
Why Chinese\ are even allowed to play with others
opaque hinge
But yeah bombers need serious nerf
little zenith
they all hackers
solid hinge
Ill actually go to china for some time in a few years, guess no battlefield for me
opaque hinge
Cant take it down with aa
charred heron
@little zenith That'd be the best for like....99% of the current multiplayer games
solid hinge
wouldnt want to subject myself to this
I mean its a metal flying coffin ofc your gewher cant do anything lol
maiden steppe
because people are free to hop between regions in BFV server selection.
opaque hinge
I've fired a full clip of aa into a bomber and I hit for only like 80. Then they go heal and come back
dense bone
in reality yes, but its a game
charred heron
Also, chinese people mostly hack because they need achievements and it's in their mentality to be the best at all costs
dense bone
make it balanced
charred heron
Most chinese clans are known to hack, which is seen there as okay
opaque hinge
Lol
dense bone
^
little zenith
Chinese are cheap minded labors tbh
solid hinge
where are you from? @little zenith
little zenith
never liked them
opaque hinge
So I'd hit for 80 and they'd haul ass out a there and never come back
little zenith
SG
charred heron
China
opaque hinge
But nope fly to edge of map repair and then come back
solid hinge
Probably reduce bomb times but if you want to win you need more competition
charred heron
Battlefield 5: China Rising
opaque hinge
China #1
obsidian fossil
woah
charred heron
little zenith
fuck china
solid hinge
i am dying so fast this is shit
obsidian fossil
woAh
little zenith
for real
obsidian fossil
WOah
little zenith
they are the real cancer
solid hinge
calm down lmao
obsidian fossil
WO A H
dense bone
they are not changing ttk or ttd as far as i know
solid hinge
Jesus this isnt r battlefield
china makes all ur shit fuk OFF and stop talking CHINESE
little zenith
i can't take this shit tho. it was already two painful years in BF1
opaque hinge
I want to bitch about bombers
little zenith
now they all coming back to bfv
dense bone
same
dense bone
and how spumoni is bad
opaque hinge
Or talk shit about bombers
solid hinge
they should change ttd
maiden steppe
here in the US I've never had an issue with out-of-region players in BF1
dense bone
lol
opaque hinge
Naw
dense bone
which is 10 feet
obsidian fossil
tbf I think its what smgs should be
solid hinge
its like when you shoot you are slowly racking up bullets then all at once they hit
dense bone
and dont ADS
solid hinge
do you speak mandarin? @little zenith
obsidian fossil
i main mp40
solid hinge
why do people like the mp40 so much its literally a b-tech sten
dense bone
i just want suomi to be decent ads at med range
opaque hinge
I've had enough china for 1 day
dense bone
not the trash its at now
obsidian fossil
not cause ts the best, but because its the heckin mp40
solid hinge
opaque hinge
I cant remember if they're buffing it in the patch or not
little zenith
fuck mandarin
obsidian fossil
jesus
dense bone
they are buffing smg in general
solid hinge
was the max rank CC issue fixed?
dense bone
nothing specific to suomi
solid hinge
they are nerfing the thompson
opaque hinge
Apparently they will fix it
slate zephyr
Mp40 was made not to ads really
brittle imp
Mg34 good with ads tho
opaque hinge
Just on their 1000 page to do list
slate zephyr
Run in gun and revive with mp40
brittle imp
A lot of medic guns not made for ads
dense bone
dont have mg34 yet
brittle imp
Why do people want medics to be God class
dense bone
i dont
brittle imp
Classes need balsnce
dense bone
i want suomi back to beta days
slate zephyr
Jey @dense bone we need to play once
brittle imp
I remember sten in beta days
solid hinge
Yeah the medic is fine with an smg
dense bone
dice are literally buffing medics, because they are shit class
brittle imp
Shit class lol
dense bone
dont see how you twist that to people wanting medic god class
slate zephyr
Right now im trying to get my kd to 2.0
dense bone
its literally the only class getting a buff across the board...
obsidian fossil
I want the smgs to be better than assault rifles at their close range, similar to shotguns
brittle imp
No fucking twisting nyphon, people were the same with fuckinf assualt in bf4
brittle imp
The self healing class becomes the run and gun crazy class
obsidian fossil
but better at their range
slate zephyr
Smg shot slow for me it feels
solid hinge
fwheu9sfd
solid hinge
I think they should alleviate this by adding ba ck combat kits
dense bone
no one is wanting a buff beyond that...
solid hinge
why isnt there a game mixed between like squad/arma and bf5 one is too tactical and one is too hectic
dense bone
at least here
hazy lynx
Lmao the Medic/Assault destroys every other class in every battlefield game to date, there is no reason for any kind of buff
solid hinge
Rising storm
maiden steppe
h3ph0 try PUBG lol
solid hinge
And planetside 2
dense bone
and we dont know if the buff is even good or not
dense bone
lol
dense bone
they are ONLY "good" at close range
solid hinge
why is medic class bad they have infinite healing so their handicap makes sense am i the only one who sees it
charred matrix
2 shots with the panzerfaust killed a Churchill tank from behind, T H A T S N O T O P
dense bone
thats not the same as "just not good at med"
dense bone
since the maps are all football fields
maiden steppe
just because the medic class can infinite heal doesn't mean they should have guns that are totally outclassed
solid hinge
medic should stay with teammate at close range
maiden steppe
they should at least have guns that are serviceable
maiden steppe
they don't have to be the best guns
obsidian fossil
i actually think it would be great to add vareity to each class, similar to how support is. they have long/medium range lmgs amd mmgs, and close range shotguns
dense bone
probably better than most medics
brittle imp
And they arent coverless football fields
dense bone
not even probably
obsidian fossil
i think every class should have that versatility
brittle imp
Tons of cover
dense bone
i know i am better than a lot of people
solid hinge
is the fire rate of the sten or suomi typical rpm for world war 2 or did it go higher, i think medics should just have high fire rate smgs
dense bone
better than you for sure as well
brittle imp
Nah
dense bone
well, you play ps4
icy sluice
Oof
icy sluice
Double oof
dense bone
so youre stats are better on ps4? thats all you showed me and they were shit on that
slate quartz
Anyone wanna play BF1? That lives in the uS?
solid hinge
Okay unrelated
brittle imp
They werent shit
solid hinge
I wish archtypes were black