Like with the gewehr I expect 34 odd to the leg, 40-50 for the body and 65 to the head
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
compact oxide
I think you're the only other person I've seen who doesn't think the pistols are underpowered
solid hinge
Well spammers like me are loving pistols, people who got used to the swag machines in bf1 are feeling let down
compact oxide
Yeah I'm loving the pistols
compact oxide
The revolver is good (I'm just bad with it), the ruby is excellent and the P38 is even alright
Need to try out the Luger though, I just love that pistol irl
solid hinge
People keep on going on about the revolver
sacred junco
MP28 seems to feel really unusable in ranges more so than other smgs
solid hinge
The 1911 has always done It for me
compact oxide
@sacred junco I use the MP28 at medium range
sacred junco
maybe its just the sights
compact oxide
Even with the hipfire buffs
sacred junco
should use something besides irons
civic cedar
mp28 with nybar is good
sacred junco
feels like the horizontal spread and recoil is very strong
compact oxide
You can use other than irons? I use the irons now and I find them better than the reflex tbh
solid hinge
I haven’t been able to stand the sten or Suomi long enough to unlock much with the medic class really
compact oxide
The spread is very strong tbh
sacred junco
i dunno always had issues with block sights
compact oxide
Only the Suomi is worse from what I've tried
sacred junco
like the ol' Martini and 1895 Russian
solid hinge
The Suomi absolutely melts but only from like 3 m away
compact oxide
But it rips and with the 50 mag you can spray all day
sacred junco
at least it feels like the ads tree for suomi makes it pretty decent for spraying mid range
sacred junco
Basically an automatico
compact oxide
More the annihilator
solid hinge
I feel like when or if the grease gun is added it will be reaaaally op
compact oxide
It'll be when
sacred junco
can't see it really working well if the smgs all have the same dmg properties
compact oxide
The MP28 is great for places like the hallways either side of C on aerodrome though
solid hinge
Tbh I’m hoping nothing is drastically changed
sacred junco
I just want slight decrease and dmg drop off and drag for smgs
compact oxide
The unlock bugged for me cause I left the round
sacred junco
and recoil increase for semi
compact oxide
The EMP though is 👌
sacred junco
yeah that
I can bare SLRs having basically no spread if they have limited mag and rof, but I don't like Assault Semis being too easy to click at max rpm
charred heron
I'm mixed
On one hand i love the EMP
On the other hand i need to play more guns
Tommy gun needs some time to get used to
compact oxide
ATM I go EMP for range, MP28 for close
midnight nimbus
what's the difference between assault SARs being allowed to magdump and scout SLRs being allowed to magdump?
none
either both should have no SIPS or neither should
lucid marsh
The EMP feels so bad tho, why not the MP34
compact oxide
Haven't got it yet
narrow lagoon
got my fully gold ZH-29
ya FUCKING yeet
well i say "fully gold" technically the stock isnt gold but that's also because you literally can't get the gold stock yet
compact oxide
It's faster ttk
lucid marsh
Its a gun yeah, but it doesn't look good or feel good so its just so bland and boring
compact oxide
The MP34 is sexy af
lucid marsh
I'm still working on thompson gold, then gonna get the mg42 so I can shoot at planes
compact oxide
I got a fully gold M95 but that's it
atomic willow
next challenge: gold liberator
lucid marsh
I was thinking of just not doing it and getting chromed instead
compact oxide
Looks best with gold metal and mint wood imo
lucid marsh
But gotta show off my dedication to mediiiiiic
atomic willow
yup lol
compact oxide
I can't even afford weapon upgrades now so there's no way I can get skins anyhow 
solid hinge
I’m level 30 with 11k thinking I might have spent too much on crap early on
Wait nah 32
solid hinge
Probably going to be tons when the update comes out but I would assume so
atomic willow
fair enough
lucid marsh
I think I'm close to lvl 50 atm
solid hinge
I’m probably gonna try and log 10 odd hours before the update so having the level 20 skins are actually rare
compact oxide
I got to level 50 the first few days
lucid marsh
I don't have that much time
compact oxide
I took two days off for the release
lucid marsh
I absolutely hate the 'kill x guys while attacking an objective' its gonna take so long for me
compact oxide
It's worse with snipes, it's "get X headshots on enemies on objectives in a life/round"
solid hinge
I still don’t get how people levelled up that quick
compact oxide
Hacks 
lucid marsh
I just dislike it because you have to be on the objective to get them
solid hinge
I would say I finish top 3 4/5 games at the very least and I played a lot before release but peeps doing it in two or three days are mad
If it wasn’t for the Black Friday weekend on fifa I would probs be 40-45 rn
tribal ledge
3 days after the game was launched In already saw rank 50 players on local servers
Like how the fuck
compact oxide
Can confirm on the shit bucket, mine was a trooper
solid hinge
Yeah but level 100 took 100s of hours of game time now it takes like 30 hours
jovial forge
Not to mention that its pretty easy to rank up topping the scoreboard
solid hinge
I’m also gold guns should not be this easy
jovial forge
Was it all you used?
compact oxide
They could just release the leafy skins as 10x harder to get than gold
regal sapphire
Not gonna play BF5 anymore, fuck this pos game
solid hinge
I unlocked both gold gewehrs in like 10 odd games
lucid marsh
I'd be fine with it being harder if you'd get all of it at once
solid hinge
The reqs are just a bit too easy
jovial forge
Unlocking pieces seems silly.
lucid marsh
This part for part takes away from the "yes I got it" and turns it into "well...onto the next stupid grind"
regal sapphire
Until they fix their shit fucking game, I'm not playing it
regal sapphire
None
jovial forge
Honestly I'd be cool of gold parts were related to kills. 600 to 700 max
compact oxide
That would be cool tbh
charred heron
Knife 10 people to get the golden StG44 skin
solid hinge
Tbf for a good players that’s like 5 more games
jovial forge
Weapons mastery from BF3 n 4 was awesome
compact oxide
Instead of stars have a skin system to show how much you've used it
charred heron
Where are my weapon mastery medals?
jovial forge
Skin + stars for maximum brag?
lucid marsh
I feel like the attacking the objective stuff is tedious and forces you to do shit not always good for your team
regal sapphire
It was BF5, in the first week of the game I was having an absolute blast playing it
charred heron
I want my 5th melee kill dogtag
lucid marsh
Yesterday I refused to defend points because of my assignment, I want it done asap
compact oxide
Yes, max brag 100%
tribal ledge
In BF1 if you knew how to use the large ammo crate you could rack up a ridiculous amount of points
jovial forge
Assignments are an after thought to me unless if requires specific
tribal ledge
I feel that in this game it's not so much
regal sapphire
But as I play more, more and more bugs appear, hit reg has got to the point where the game is unplayable, Everyone is camping, every gun just one shots you, no one plays as a team
jovial forge
Are you PC Coutin?
compact oxide
Ammo crate is more useful than pouches though
regal sapphire
Yes
compact oxide
Gives grenades and gadgets
tribal ledge
@regal sapphire If every gun 1-shots people there is no need for team worl
jovial forge
Gotta get people to touch your crate though
tribal ledge
The TTK in this game is faster than BF1
compact oxide
I always touch people's crates 😉
jovial forge
Ah explains why. PC is it's own separate beast of bugs
regal sapphire
Netcode is unplayable rn
old karma
I've consistently hit top of the board without issue
jovial forge
I once threw a ammo crate in front of a group and no one touched 
regal sapphire
I do too, but its because my team are always mongrels
old karma
I agree there's definitely improvement to be made, its far from perfct
but its also far from unplayable
compact oxide
I can play it, but the netcode is certainly rage inducing
lucid marsh
There's pretty much 3 bugs atm that make the game super annoying, but other then that I have no problems with the game
jovial forge
Played medic for the first time today, got top medic easy
lucid marsh
The infinity loading, Revive slide and smg reload
regal sapphire
Medic is so fucking shit
jovial forge
Havent encountered those on ps4 yet
charred heron
Just do it like WoT and give barrel rings for each 100 kills
old karma
Some of the medic guns need a boost, but there are others that absolutely wreck
regal sapphire
You get out gunned by everything, you cant shoot past 10 meters and you have to revive everyone and no one revives you back
jovial forge
I've had no issue with medic, but I'm not charging assaults or other enemies from the front however
solid hinge
Medic has always been a risk worth taking for the best of players
old karma
and within its range obv
upbeat cypress
Hello Im new here
jovial forge
I do wish medics had another weapon type bnb to use however like a carbine
old karma
it shreds people
jovial forge
But I'm grinding for that Tommy gun
old karma
and the MP40 is fairly reliable at medium range
charred heron
Why don't the Medics get SLRs again?
old karma
one of the few medic guns that is
jovial forge
Suomi is a little monster to
old karma
Medics could get access to carbines when they bring them out
old karma
there's two weapon types that havent properly been added yet. Carbines and SPMGs or whatever it is
compact oxide
@charred heron because EA hates medics
regal sapphire
The only gun I can do "okay" in the medic class is the Sten
charred heron
Medics are galaxy brain
old karma
There's also a medic gun that's been semi confirmed thats a hybrid between an LMG and an SMG
regal sapphire
The rest are complete shit, the MP40 is even more shit than shit
old karma
Then you arent playing right
compact oxide
Medic you need to learn close quarters
old karma
I've got gold on the MP40
charred heron
People are unthankful that you sacrifice your K/D for others
regal sapphire
It's not a hybrid, its a 9mm smg
old karma
plays really well
regal sapphire
With a bypod
solid hinge
Maybe if everything is so shit do you then you are?
regal sapphire
I absolutely hate the MP40
limber anchor
I’m hoping the tommy gun is good
jovial forge
As long as your flanking and hitting shots, medic is a real underdog for skill
old karma
If you're confident with your shots, go down the ROF and hip fire upgrade path
because its a beast
charred heron
I fell too deep in love with the MG42
regal sapphire
I dont have the tommy, Dont have the pacience to play the Medic class
solid hinge
I’ve picked up the mp40 it’s not much above useable
old karma
otherwise just go for the 50 round mag
regal sapphire
Ew cancer salty
limber anchor
It better be I’m struggling way too hard to get it only for it to suck
jovial forge
Suomi is love, suomi is life
regal sapphire
MMGs are another retarded addition
Hurr durr lets encourage camping
That's surely what our game needa
jovial forge
Theyd camp regardless
old karma
Ok legit, people need to stop bitching about camping
charred heron
I run the Tommy gun in the cancerous middle of large mag and hipfire
jovial forge
Attack/Defend
old karma
defence encourages you to stay in one location
regal sapphire
Game isnt fucking sitting in a fucking corner either
old karma
If you want to you can
charred heron
MMGs are great for defense, but need some skill for proper attacking
lucid marsh
I've played every medic gun to rank 4, tommy is fun, you won't kill anyone at range but if they don't notice or are a mmg lying on the ground you can easily tapfire them to death
old karma
Do whatever you want
charred heron
Since you can't ADS
old karma
You learn to outsmart people like that
solid hinge
Tbh imagine using anything but the gewehr at any range
charred heron
Or aim
jovial forge
Check your corners, dont charge without looking
regal sapphire
Well you're an absolute shit player if you camp corners
old karma
and MMGs are a great addition. Heavy firepower at the expense of mobility
regal sapphire
Never done, never will do
solid hinge
Coutin ngl bud this game seems to already be heading for classic status
old karma
Well, when the bipods work
regal sapphire
MMGs are cancer
solid hinge
You can’t say everything is shit
solar wyvern
regal sapphire
Heading for classic statues
Being on sale 2 weeks after launch
upbeat cypress
Will battlefield 5 add more maps later?
regal sapphire
Yeah bud sure
charred heron
Bipods sometimes don't work because "Hurr, you're sliding 1 mm/h
old karma
Yeah, free content coming out in waves
charred heron
Can't wait for the Tigger Boi
upbeat cypress
I really hope they add japanese theme
regal sapphire
Free content at the expense of stupid people buying microtransactions
old karma
They will eventually
solid hinge
Well battlefield v is playing like a game that’s been out for a year, when the glitches and bugs are sorted it’s going to ply and look spectacular
old karma
there's nothing wrong with microtransactions if they're done right
jovial forge
Only camping I consider annoying is that one guy camping around your base acting like a spawn beacon
This isnt bc2
solar wyvern
I identify as a spawn beacon
solid hinge
I had a decent game earlier camping on a but then we were on Rotterdam and I was protecting the bridge so we weren’t spawn killed
upbeat cypress
theres not many Ww2 games that have japanese and soviet theme
regal sapphire
they literally delayed the game for one month to make it more playable, and its as shit as ever
old karma
Although clearly a ton of people are having fun with it
jovial forge
Consoles seem fine tho
solid hinge
Apart from the ttd the gameplay is incredibly balanced
upbeat cypress
tbh battlefield 5 is better than cod ww2
old karma
I swear some people get off on being salty
limber anchor
@upbeat cypress there haven’t been any good ones recently except for like WAW lol
regal sapphire
Well yeah, of course BF5 is better than cod
solid hinge
Normally after a couple weeks the game is a shambles with no idea what to balance
solar wyvern
Is it better than cod mw2 tho?
jovial forge
Very true
lucid marsh
Dunno tho, can't really compare, overal playstyle I like battlefield better then CoD
limber anchor
@charred heron the best ppsh ever
jovial forge
Cod is a twitch arcade shooter
charred heron
The WWII Simulation level in BlOps 3 was better than this
solid hinge
But the community is pretty much together on what is good/bad and what needs balancing which is very little
lucid marsh
Bipod mmg's/lmg's are better in ww2 since the maps are more chaotic and flanking is much easier
charred heron
CoD wants to imply skill and speed
jovial forge
Mw series and black ops 1 to 2 were nice
solar wyvern
Mw3 imo had a good campaign but the maps are just asking me to die
limber anchor
Black ops 1 is the best cod of all time don’t @ me
old karma
Honestly BFV has plenty that needs fixing and balancing, but despite that its the most fun I've had playing a BF game in a long ass time
solid hinge
Mw3 was my favourite cod
jovial forge
Remember that one map on Ghost where if you were fast enough, could spawn kill the whole team?
solid hinge
Infected
solid hinge
What the swamp map
jovial forge
Mw2 was mine, Speztnas were hilarious
limber anchor
@solar wyvern 😡🤬
limber anchor
Waw is the best ww2 game in the past 10 years lol
charred heron
I think i'll waste more hours into BFV than into BF1
solar wyvern
But the ac130 above sound is awesome
charred heron
Which already has a steady 350h time
upbeat cypress
BF V just need more themes, i think.
solar wyvern
Aight
lucid marsh
I got so mad at CoD ww2 play of the game system
jovial forge
Bfv has got my attention, hopefully if wont get Battlfront two treatment
limber anchor
@upbeat cypress it really needs more
charred heron
Tho, i slowly get bored from the few maps atm
regal sapphire
Well, gotta wait for 4th
lucid marsh
Had 6 kills in a row, only showed 4
upbeat cypress
if they remove females in BFV that would be awesome
solid hinge
I mean what bf v promises is huge because it’s a game playing right in almost every game mode, their aren’t any shambolically bad maps, the classes only need tweaking and the gadgets seem perfect. Also there is already more customisable content than there has ever been barring weapons
old karma
lol what
charred heron
@upbeat cypress I don't mind, they scream too if you stab them
solid hinge
Apart from the bugs it’s a great game
limber anchor
@solid hinge Hamada is terrible tho imo lol
charred heron
Tho their VAs, especially the german ones are mostly awful
jovial forge
Its solid, dice just gotta keep it solid
regal sapphire
Hamada is really awful
solid hinge
Hamada plays so much better now they pushed the spawns back
jovial forge
Hamada is good, just flank
charred heron
Rotterdam is still the worst map
limber anchor
It’s way too big and the flags are too far apart
charred heron
Then comes Hamada
regal sapphire
But this buggy mess that people call a game is just unplayable for me right now
compact oxide
They should remove all the male chars in BFV, nobody plays them anyway 
upbeat cypress
are u guys hype for the Battle royale or no?
solid hinge
I find people who just criticise games and can’t see the good in them normally absolutely suck
regal sapphire
Rotterdam is the best map are you retarded
jovial forge
Get rid of that bridge in Rotterdam and its golden
limber anchor
Rotterdam is good imo lol
compact oxide
Rotterdam is alright
jovial forge
Literally a straight shot to enemy's home flag
solid hinge
Rotterdam is class
limber anchor
Twisted steel and arras are the best maps
lucid marsh
Rotterdam has fun but people pushing from E to A and holding the bridge still annoy me
compact oxide
Arras is best and twisted are first and second
solid hinge
Twisted steel and arras are a touch too open for me
regal sapphire
Twisted is meh
limber anchor
Devastation is good too
upbeat cypress
I like how battlefield gonna add battle royale after fortnite and pubg died
limber anchor
Fjell is meh
regal sapphire
The 2 desert maps are god awful and I always quit when i see them
limber anchor
Narvick is ok I guess
jovial forge
Fjell is the grand dad day of operation locker
regal sapphire
Fjell is great, narvik is another shit map
old karma
I actually dont dislike Fjell, my only issue are the fucking bombers
solid hinge
Devastation reminds me a bit of praise de tahure in that you can just circle around, avoid the middle and have a great game
jovial forge
With planes
solid hinge
Fjell is wank
old karma
Narvik and Hamada are the only maps I actually hate
limber anchor
I just don’t care for snow maps
charred heron
Fjell has way too many planes and shitty AA positions
solid hinge
Hamada has people sooo divided
limber anchor
Aerodrome is dogshit too lol
regal sapphire
I never get killed by planes on Fjell
charred heron
But Rotterdam is the worst map imo
jovial forge
I like hamada though. Playing as a smart recon pays off with spawn beacon
regal sapphire
Recons are always twats
solid hinge
I don’t get how you couldn’t like Rotterdam there’s something for everyone bar planes
God coutin calm down man
regal sapphire
Never help out the team
charred heron
The map design of Rotterdam is awful
limber anchor
Hamada is so bad lol it’s funny
silk mist
I would love to play Arras one day without planes, as a server option
That way the town is not leveled instantly lol
jovial forge
That attitude should go to all unhelpful classes not just recon
solid hinge
The last 3 games I’ve played I’ve been recon completing most squad orders and flag captures
charred heron
Maybe works for Operations, but not for Conquest or similar modes
regal sapphire
All other classes are way more useful than recon
limber anchor
Recons are not as bad as people make them out to be
regal sapphire
They really are though
jovial forge
Its heavy bias to recon
maiden steppe
heyyy battlefieldtracker percentiles are finally working again
charred heron
Assault is for brainlets
solid hinge
Trouble is recon has the most useless players but also by far the most skilled
lucid marsh
My fav is probably Hamada and Narvik, great to flank but also enough CQC
regal sapphire
Assault is the best
Wtf
Hamada being a favourite map
Whats the problem with you
maiden steppe
497.9 SPM puts me at top 23% for SPM in BFV, ~1400 SPM was top 41% in BF1, 650 SPM was top 41% in BF4
solid hinge
But for every ptfo elite sniper there are 20 campers who get destroyed
charred heron
Hamada isn't too shabby, only the first attacker phase sucks
limber anchor
Assault is way to broken
solid hinge
Personally I love Hamada
jovial forge
Good record recon are aquarter a dozen
maiden steppe
so yeah, average SPM in BFV is lower by a lot compared to previous battlefields
solid hinge
I think shit players get destroyed in Hamada
regal sapphire
SF1907 and StG 1-5 are absolutely fucked
solid hinge
You have to play it so tactically
regal sapphire
I dont get shit on Hamada, its just not fun
woven dune
recon's spotting ability is very useful
solid hinge
Then you probably suck no offence
maiden steppe
yeah imo Hamada is an excellent map. I played PUBG a ton at one point so I'm used to playing the terrain.
regal sapphire
???
jovial forge
Or your team sucks
limber anchor
The gewher and m1 carbine are ridiculous
woven dune
and can generate a lot of points
solid hinge
Hamada is fantastic
jovial forge
Bad teams dont win
solid hinge
Hamada involves more teamwork and tactics than any other map
maiden steppe
the only problem with Hamada is first couple of points in Breakthrough
50% of attacker tickets get lost there
if not all of them
regal sapphire
I just quit when I see Hamada lol
limber anchor
Gewehr is way too good lol it outguns smgs for Christ sake
regal sapphire
This game is already frustrating enough as it is
jovial forge
The fact assaults can outplay recons at range with the Gewher n m1a1 still bothers me somewhat
solid hinge
Then again no offence but It’s where shit players go to die
maiden steppe
but if we're discussing maps that we hate, I greatly dislike Narvik
woven dune
i still hope hamada gets a normal conquest mode
maiden steppe
no logical reason but there's something about the map that's just too stressful for me
solid hinge
Lol the gewehr outguns smgs short range and anything long range
regal sapphire
Gewehr out guns medic because medic is useless now
maiden steppe
maybe the millions of angles that you can be shot at when peeking out of anywhere
regal sapphire
It's not because the gun is too good
solid hinge
I take out snipers with the gewehr and I’ve been on the receiving end as a sniper a lot as well
regal sapphire
Yes they are lol
old karma
Medics are far from useless
solid hinge
Come on
maiden steppe
ok medics are most certainly not useless
old karma
They can single handedly ensure a push
charred heron
Wohoo, Top 3% with 42 stolen dogtags
solid hinge
Medics are useless
limber anchor
I hope they remove Hamada and replaces it with like a golmud railway remake or something lol
old karma
smokes are pretty good
regal sapphire
They're completely useless and unfun to play with
maiden steppe
with health attrition, their heals and more valuable than ever
old karma
and the ability to revive and supply people
jovial forge
@limber anchorlol no
charred heron
Medics are the heroes most people don't deserve
old karma
Clearly not useless if Im hitting top of the board playing medic
limber anchor
The smgs are so bad right now
regal sapphire
I just always end up switching back to assault
jovial forge
Suomi with 50 rounds les go
charred heron
Tho, most Medics have the situational awareness of a rock
solid hinge
I mean I can hit the top of the board playing medic
limber anchor
@jovial forge or Silk Road maybe even op metro haha
regal sapphire
I can hit top of scoreboard with medic, but do I have fun with it? Fuck no
solid hinge
Anyone can
maiden steppe
SMGs do great up close but they suffer from large amounts of damage falloff, and IMO that's a problem since a majority of the current maps are tailored to ranged engagements.
just give them less damage falloff and they're good to go
regal sapphire
Give them less Hrec
jovial forge
@regal sapphire if your hot having fun with medic, dont play medic
maiden steppe
4-bullet to kill before 9 meters is just not good enough
old karma
I've had plenty of fun playing medic. Using smokes to force my team to push objectives, keeping them alive and melting people in close quarters
regal sapphire
Gonna have to do that yeah, stuck in the Assault class
lucid marsh
Or! Once the soviets join we get stalingrad with house to house engagement full with close range moments
solid hinge
The thing is medics need more firepower than other classes and at every range there is a gun in each class that can beat it with s conferees being so powerful
limber anchor
I’m only playing medic to get the tommy gun lol
maiden steppe
Suomi and Tommy Gun are excellent medic guns
old karma
I'll agree there, the medic guns need less damage drop off
maiden steppe
too bad you have to sift through all the meh guns to get them
solid hinge
The suomi is like shitting a firehouse
limber anchor
I hate the Suomi but I’m hoping I’ll like the tommy gun
regal sapphire
I wanted to atleast try the Mp34, but the frustration just doesnt justify it
solid hinge
Why the fuck is my autocorrect going so mental on me rn
maiden steppe
suomi's like the automatico of this game lol
solid hinge
Itssss not
limber anchor
I hated that gun too lol
regal sapphire
Nah, its not as annoying to deal with
jovial forge
Nah more like the mp18
regal sapphire
Automatico was câncer, Suomi is ok
solid hinge
The automatico is probably battlefields best bet gun
limber anchor
I hated all of those shit guns of bf1 lol
jovial forge
Even the 1903?
regal sapphire
Before they introduced the SmG08 it was the most câncer yeah
solid hinge
I could challenge with the automatico at 50m lol
old karma
There's gonna be a few returning guns from BF1
regal sapphire
Which is retarded
jovial forge
Makes sense
old karma
It really isnt though
limber anchor
I literally only had fun using that one lmg I think it was called the perino or something
solid hinge
being back the automatico
old karma
It makes sense
regal sapphire
It really is
old karma
It really isnt
regal sapphire
No gun that they brought back belongs in a WW2 setting
lucid marsh
The automatico looks so bad imo
old karma
But it does?
regal sapphire
Apart from the pistols and the rifles
jovial forge
If it participated in both WW it makes sense
solid hinge
Apart from like 6 guns in there already
old karma
They still used plenty of the LMGs, rifles, semi autos and handguns
solid hinge
Probably more than that actually
old karma
The only difference was the addition of more automatic weapons
limber anchor
They just better add the iconic weapons in or I will be pissed
solid hinge
Saying that lie 60% of the guns in the game were in bf1
jovial forge
And some weapons return behaving differently
lucid marsh
Can we get a crossbow tho
jovial forge
Like the g95
solid hinge
I miss the Lewis gun being straight up zero recoil
old karma
I just dont get how people can bitch about returning guns when they operate differently. Plus why would you bitch about that but not bitch about the fact that we have practically the same guns in every modern shooter ever
regal sapphire
No they really didnt, Selbstlader is ridiculous in BF5, the Ribeyrolles too, the Ross rifle, the Model 8
maiden steppe
I found some extremely crude data for gun stats. You can find a link in the Symthic forums but I can PM a link if you guys want them.
regal sapphire
None of those belong in BF5
maiden steppe
Turns out that every automatic weapon is 4 BTK between 8-9 meters
limber anchor
We need the BAR m1 garand the Springfield ppsh mosin nagant and browning of the top of my head
maiden steppe
including SMGs
old karma
BAR will be fun
lucid marsh
That well smg looks pretty cool
regal sapphire
One gun that they shouldve brought back instead of shit like the Model 8 or the Ribeyrolles
limber anchor
The grease gun too
solid hinge
Ffs they aren’t bringing back op guns
limber anchor
I don’t remember those guns didn’t play much bf1
jovial forge
Gasser revolver as a nod to ww1 woulda been nice
jovial forge
But weapons that saw combat in both wars makes more sense
solid hinge
Not just well that gun is op**
limber anchor
We need the trench gun too I don’t know why they don’t have a pump action shotgun yet
regal sapphire
Nope, Selbstlader didnt serve in WW2, nor did the Ribeyrolles, nor did the Model 8, nor did the RSC, nor did the Chauchat
jovial forge
That's what I said. M1897 or its later models have yet to be seen
They were considered
Or so limited use
regal sapphire
They're just doing it because they're lazy and want to do more reuse of assets
solid hinge
Tbf the French army re-used a lot of its shitty guns from ww1
regal sapphire
Yeah, one gun we shouldve gotten but we didnt, Lebel
solid hinge
God you are so angry
jovial forge
Gonna have to agree
solid hinge
How could someone be this angry at this game
old karma
I dont even know
solid hinge
It’s so fucking good lol
regal sapphire
Sorry for giving out criticisms lmao
old karma
Just dont play, if its making you this fucking angry then dont play
limber anchor
I hope they add guns regularly there’s a lot of missing things and I know we won’t get the Russians or Americans until atleast may or June
solid hinge
Rt
regal sapphire
I dont plan on playing anymore lol
jovial forge
As long as its makes sense in good
old karma
Alright, well good for you
solid hinge
There is criticising a game then there is just slamming everything in it for seemingly no reason
regal sapphire
They should add weapons that make sense
solid hinge
I’m game for people criticising games but some people can’t play it and just slam it when the game is class
jovial forge
I'm still seeing vids on YouTube complaining about the first trailer that ignore the later ones
old karma
get over yourself
lucid marsh
Nambu could be cook as an smg
limber anchor
@old karma none of the iconic ones but hopefully we see those datamined soon
regal sapphire
Lets have a fucking lightsaber then!
old karma
BAR and M1 Garand are pretty much confirmed
jovial forge
Ok that's swing to far into crazy coutin
lucid marsh
I wouldn't mind having a broadsword like in CoD xD thats hilarious
solid hinge
Also they are trying with this release to have untold weapons and untold stories in the game
regal sapphire
They're only untold because they made them up lmao
limber anchor
@old karma it’s just a matter of when they add the Americans in
old karma
There's a difference between putting in a gun from 1916 than putting in a lightsaber from a sci fi movie
solid hinge
They are holding a lot back so the game isn’t just generic and boring like cod ww2
old karma
two very different things
regal sapphire
Really isnt, both dont fit at all
old karma
k
limber anchor
@regal sapphire did you play bf4?
old karma
They seem to be doing a chronological thing with the releases
so at this point in the war America wasn't involved
jovial forge
If dice released a br title that did everything thing we've already seen, people would still whine and call it a rehash
regal sapphire
I mean, I love the Selbstlader, but should it be in game? Probably not
limber anchor
@old karma yea probably but I just really want the m1 garand lol
jovial forge
Shame though on that Norwegian war stories, probably would of been better with a squad of guys rather then action one man army girl
regal sapphire
They couldve added the SG35 instead of the StG 15
limber anchor
@jovial forge lol yea that was ridiculous
regal sapphire
Would've made alot more sense, introduce it later
solid hinge
Well soe and resistance groups used women very often as they didn’t arouse nearly as much suspicion
jovial forge
Could of been the sneaking mission that reflects the real one to
limber anchor
They should just quit with campaign there’s really no read to have it in bf anymore
regal sapphire
If they do shit like Nordlys yeah I agree lol
hazy lynx
KEK
solid hinge
I mean as much as I don’t agree with changing history women in the game for war stories was common place and multiplayer it shouldn’t bother people when guns and shit that were never used are in the games
limber anchor
Dice never makes good story modes it seems like they’re usually just generic or jus average
jovial forge
Multiplayer is fine, I expect it
hazy lynx
TOPKEK
solid hinge
And I for one enjoy seeing a women being portrayed as a resistance fighter as many were
regal sapphire
Cookies, Nordlys is based on Operation gunnerside which involved 8 men
Not a single teenage girl
compact oxide
"Lets all argue about women in the game again guys"
limber anchor
@compact oxide lol
solid hinge
Arguing about women in video games is for the sexually frustrated
compact oxide
I've never heard someone arguing that before
jovial forge
Honestly they could of done a campaign mission female resistance in a more urban environment
hazy lynx
BFBC2 Had one of the best campaign out there, BF3 also, if you are bitching about ''women ruining my game'' you can quit this conversation
solid hinge
They should have done it in francs
jovial forge
Defend a town or something, attack supplies
regal sapphire
I'm gay, I coudn't give less of a shit about femoids and sex
limber anchor
But for real let’s not because the game got shit on and is still getting shit on because of it
solid hinge
Ah man just hates women
solid hinge
And clearly bf v
lucid marsh
I kinda miss a giant operation with chaos and things everywhere that doesn't feel like a drag like trailleur
regal sapphire
Well I don't, just dont do shit with history
hazy lynx
''mah immersion''
old karma
Thing is they never claimed this was an accurate portrayal of the war
Its inspired by the war, but it isnt a copy
solid hinge
War stories really should be in all fairness
hazy lynx
yeah
old karma
I would understand your point if they DID say that
solid hinge
I mean the other two had made up characters as well but behind true stories does that not bother anyone
regal sapphire
Well guess what, Operation Gunnerside did happen and Dice made the decision to not follow it
old karma
ok good for you?
solid hinge
Yeah but so did the other two
regal sapphire
The prologue of Nordlys even makes mention of the failed previous operation
limber anchor
How about they just stop making campaigns because they are always disappointing lol
hazy lynx
and?
solid hinge
Like do the other two missions bother you?
regal sapphire
No
hazy lynx
how about you dont play the campaign if you dont like it?
jovial forge
Cant win regardless when it comes to battlefield development
lucid marsh
No please, I need my singleplayer shooter campaigns
solid hinge
But they are true stories with made up characters
regal sapphire
I didnt play the campaign, boycotting that shit
solid hinge
So it’s clearly only the gender that’s a problem for you
lucid marsh
I don't see a reason to spend 60 bucks on a game without singleplayer
limber anchor
GAYMERS RISE UP
regal sapphire
Well portraying blacks as victims is also pretty bad but thats for another day
limber anchor
I never bought a battlefield to play singl player that’s just me
hazy lynx
solid hinge
No one does lol
old karma
Most of them have sucked
lucid marsh
I do
hazy lynx
singleplayer isnt the main part of the game, when did you realise that
solid hinge
And you can’t complain about a mode you don’t play
regal sapphire
Who buys Battlefield for the campaign?
jovial forge
I only play campaign for little goodies you get
regal sapphire
Like only campaign
limber anchor
I just feel like they wasted a lot of dev time on it and could’ve just focused on multiplayer
solid hinge
I enjoy the campaign but battlefields have always had terrible campaigns
lucid marsh
Multiplayer is just the extra thing added to it
regal sapphire
BF4s campaign was abysmal
hazy lynx
the campaign isnt any wasted dev time its just something that should be in the game even if its bad good or whatever
lucid marsh
I want my 6 hours of brain numbing idiot shooting
limber anchor
Bf3 was too
solid hinge
Bf4s was absolutely terrible
hazy lynx
no one is forcing you to play through the whole campaign
solid hinge
Tbf single player is one of the first things I do
lucid marsh
Thats why I liked CoD ww2 singleplayer, it made no sense, was easy with over the top set pieces, but that makes it fun
solid hinge
I do really like a single player
regal sapphire
Also, fun fact, Kills in Single player count for your K/D right now 
solid hinge
Codww2 single player was so good yet so terrible at the same time
limber anchor
I just feel like they shouldn’t wast time on things nobody really wants or will play more than once
karmic hull
How do I turn on nivdia highlights for bfv
solid hinge
One Sherman taking on 3 tigers sure bud
hazy lynx
you arent the majority, if you dont like the campaign it doesnt mean other people also dont like it
regal sapphire
It's hilarious how CoDs campaign was more ballsy than BF5s
lucid marsh
The train bit had me laughing so much
limber anchor
Cod usually can put together a decent story
solid hinge
Cod didn’t have one
hazy lynx
the campaign should stay, its bullshit if you say otherwise
lucid marsh
"Yeaaah sure"
regal sapphire
The original Tank-Gewehr or a new one?
old karma
no idea, just says Tankgewehr
solid hinge
Tbf cod is significantly worse because it doesn’t have single player and they haven’t had a good single player since like 2013
limber anchor
Dice has literally never mad a good campaign there forgettable and boring
lucid marsh
If they remove campaign, they should make the game cheaper imo
solid hinge
And anti tank rifle = tankgewehr
old karma
yeah but im guessing it'll just be a single shot, bipod only rifle
limber anchor
@solid hinge nah infinite warfare had a great campaign
old karma
like an MMG but for recon
regal sapphire
I dont even remember BF3s campaign
solid hinge
Tbf actually it did
lucid marsh
Ffs I played battlefield heroes as my first battlefield and the battlefield theme makes me think of that heroes theme
limber anchor
Bf3 was so generic and forgettable it’s ridiculous and bc2 was so cheesy lol
hazy lynx
there is no reason to remove campaigns, like literally campaigns were always decent
regal sapphire
The italian one principally was really good
solid hinge
I always enjoy bf campaigns but they have never been good
Hardline was a bit tough to get through though
Heroes was so good
Even if it was great at times
limber anchor
@hazy lynx you’ll literally play campaign for 4 hours at most lol nobody cares about bf story modes
solid hinge
Tbf I normally play them about 3 hours over
lucid marsh
BATTLEFIELD HEROES IS THE BEST BATTLEFIELD GAME
hazy lynx
because you cant
regal sapphire
Make a poll about it then
solid hinge
@lucid marsh Indeed
limber anchor
I’m just saying I bet 70% doesn’t even touch campaign lol
hazy lynx
sure, poll for the whole battlefield fanbase? ok, ok then, even if its a server poll it probably wont work
regal sapphire
I would, but its 6am and I'm on my phone
solid hinge
I wanna circle back to the whole all war stories are made up characters with true stories but only the woman bothers you thing?
hazy lynx
limber anchor
Literally dice never made a great campaign yet they’re all either average or mediocre
regal sapphire
I like the BF1 campaign but thats it
hazy lynx
''mah immersion muhhh wahmen in ma game'' thats the only thing i see here, no valid points about the campaign hate
regal sapphire
On BF5 I only plan to playing the Tiger one
solid hinge
Seriously you don’t like bf v for many reasons but one of them is because of the single player, which you didn’t play, because men were changed for women an the other two had made up characters who replaced the real heroes
regal sapphire
Well, maybe its one of the reasons BF5 is doing so poorly on Sales lul
Even Fallout 76 did better, and that game is proper broke
hazy lynx
yeah sure
limber anchor
The only reason I don’t like single player is because they could’ve just scrapped it an had more devs on multiplayer
solid hinge
I’m guessing you have watched a couple YouTube videos from those cynical nonces who would point out a billion flaws in the pavement, and you have barely even played the game to form your own opinion?
regal sapphire
Well, BF5 is already on sale lol
limber anchor
And this game definitely sold more than fallout 76 lol
limber anchor
Lol ok bud
solid hinge
It’s been a week and a couple days
regal sapphire
Thank you
solid hinge
Since bf technically launched
limber anchor
It’s almost if the game released close to Black Friday🤔
solid hinge
Not two weeks
hazy lynx
devs dont waste time on singleplayer, there is no point in just scrapping a whole part of the game for ''muh multiplayer''
not a valid point
only campaign hate
regal sapphire
It's almost as if they didnt do shit with the month they delayed the game with
limber anchor
@hazy lynx please tell me how much hours you will put into campaign
solid hinge
Ok why is there a random second kukri?
regal sapphire
Thats a bug cookies
hazy lynx
@limber anchor as much as i need to unlock all the collectibles and finish the story
regal sapphire
Sometimes stuff duplicates
limber anchor
@regal sapphire that’s bullshit if you think they didn’t do anything in that month
regal sapphire
Bugs from the beta are in the game still
hazy lynx
so? Its geting fixed
solid hinge
Personally I think that this game is gonna have player numbers on the next games release much better than bf1s
regal sapphire
They had a month to fix it
hazy lynx
any valid points? The game will turn out to be good in the end
regal sapphire
Well yeah
solid hinge
When this game is complete it’s gonna be class
limber anchor
Bf1 was just a perfect storm
solid hinge
Of?
regal sapphire
Its not like I dislike the game, its just too buggy and bad to play because of the bugs
solid hinge
The game is good, it just needs polishing
limber anchor
People got tired of cod and battlefield had a good debut trailer
regal sapphire
I love the gunplay
hazy lynx
Be happy that you dont have BF4 launch glitches
regal sapphire
No more random bullet deviation is so good
solid hinge
I mean if you use it on the right settings you can have a fairly bug free game, on console there are barely any horrific bugs left
limber anchor
Bf4 was so bad for like a year after launch lol
regal sapphire
Well, sometimes I cant even play anyway
I got the revive bug 3 times in a row yesterday
I just gave up lmao
limber anchor
What revive bug
solid hinge
People are forgetting the bf1 and bf4 were buggy for months whereas bf v is already sorting theirs out
hazy lynx
Never seen a revive bug that bad in my whole playtime
solid hinge
Haven’t heard of that one chief
regal sapphire
Happens all the time
regal sapphire
Weapons switch?
hazy lynx
happens all the time? lol no
hazy lynx
maybe for you
limber anchor
Well there’s a big patch coming on the 4th there’s no reason to keep complaining about things that are getting fixed soon
hazy lynx
yeah
solid hinge
Yeah where your revive someone and your weapons switch
limber anchor
Your holding the revive button that’s your fault
tacit shore
i once spawned in a vehicle that immediately got destroyed and my screen was bugged whereas it wouldn’t go back to the spawn menu so i had to leave the server
hazy lynx
yeah congrats you got that right, i dont believe thats a serious bug because it only happens to you
regal sapphire
The revive button is also fucked, sometimes holding the wait for revive speeds it up
solid hinge
No the person being revived gets it too, it’s one of few bugs that’s bad on console still
regal sapphire
It only happens to me, people talk about it all the time here
solid hinge
I’m not talking about accidentally picking up the weapon
Omg stop being so fucking angry
hazy lynx
all the time?
regal sapphire
You too
solid hinge
I’m 4 minutes into a game search and I’m chill
hazy lynx
I dont see that as a serious bug
limber anchor
@solid hinge trust me just tap the revive button I had that problem in the beta but your holding the revive button which picks up there weapons
solid hinge
4:16 that took
hazy lynx
and i dont see people talking a lot
karmic summit
The only bug I've had is where the game decides to have a hissy fit over whether to use cloud saves or not and just shows me random icey wastelands until I restart it with various settings about 8 times
solid hinge
Oh no the person being revived got my gun
karmic summit
In game I've been fairly bug free
solid hinge
I got his ke7
regal sapphire
Search revive in the chat
limber anchor
I @solid hinge hmm really
solid hinge
Yeah
tacit shore
sometimes tipping the revive key doesn’t do anything so you precisely have to aim at the revive option and then hold it
regal sapphire
Literally never had it happen to me cookies, therefore its not important
limber anchor
I literally haven’t had that problem since the beta it must be pretty rare because I revive a lot
solid hinge
Like I know when I’m accidentally picking up someone’s gun cause it doesn’t revive them first or I’ll pick up the gun rather than have it appear
I’ve only had it three times none of them as medic
hoary condor
ps4 seems fine tbh
hazy lynx
yeah, no valid proof its a important glitch
solid hinge
All good on the box bar that tbh
regal sapphire
Wheres the proof on his bug?
limber anchor
@solid hinge than it must be a problem with reviving squad mates but it’s pretty rare then
regal sapphire
I have the revive one screenshotted on my PC
hazy lynx
what bug? I only care about the bugs i see ingame
hazy lynx
yeah right, you can say it that way, if other people get bugs its not my problem
bugs i see ingame are confirmed bugs for me
karmic summit
I'm sure they are working to fix the bugs, to think otherwise is dumb, but shit doesn't get fixed overnight
regal sapphire
You're dumb
limber anchor
@karmic summit a lot of them already fixed anyway with the upcoming patch and there still working hard on fixing the others there just idiots if they think otherwise
hazy lynx
no no im too dumb too search for the revive bug
regal sapphire
I mean, I know the fixes are coming, but is that much to ask to have a decent launch from a 3A developer?
Oh ok
limber anchor
@regal sapphire this is literally the best battlefield launch in a while you’re definitely new to battlefield lol
limber anchor
@regal sapphire I think bo4 is more of your style
regal sapphire
I've been playing Battlefield since Bf1942, try again
hazy lynx
you didnt even try BF4 at launch
regal sapphire
BO4 absolutely sucks
limber anchor
@regal sapphire lol ok guy
limber anchor
You know you probably don’t even play battlefield you’re just on the hate bandwagon trolling us lol 😂
regal sapphire
Well, I am level 41
karmic summit
Everyone has the 1942 box
regal sapphire
Everyone that fuckin played it you moron lmao
hazy lynx
BF4 bugs were hundred times worse then BFV, if you want to bitch about ''muh launch bugs'' go back to BF4 release
karmic summit
Coutin why are you so angry
hazy lynx
ok?
limber anchor
You’re definitely angry lol
regal sapphire
Why is that all you guys say
hazy lynx
''you moron'' ''youre dumb''
regal sapphire
I'm not
pseudo saffron
@red copper please don't
regal sapphire
You are dumb, and you are a moron if you say all people have BF1942 boxes
regal sapphire
How can I tell it was a joke
pseudo saffron
and guys chill out. I know some of you might be trolling but let's keep it enjoyable for everyone alright
karmic summit
Because its a ridiculous thing to say so the obvious reason for saying it is humour, rather than something I genuinely believe :p
hazy lynx
what the fuck is this
limber anchor
But like I said maybe fortnite or cod might be a better community for you @regal sapphire
hazy lynx
seriously
red copper
But yea you ladies need to chill down with the nagging about the bugs
regal sapphire
Ew and rw
karmic summit
Its an intervention for Coutin and his anger management issues
solid hinge
Lol
limber anchor
@karmic summit lol
regal sapphire
Says the guy who wants to remove single player from BF5
hazy lynx
KEK
limber anchor
I mean they should a majority of the playerbase doesn’t care about single player
regal sapphire
It's 7am and I still havent slept, most of what I say in regards to insults is banter
limber anchor
The only time I played the single player a lot of bf4 because they literally force you to play it if you want certain guns
regal sapphire
❤
regal sapphire
I played bf1s because it was cool 
karmic summit
The single player is fun enough to mess around in
limber anchor
I liked the p90 I legit didn’t have bf4 weapons that were bad imo
regal sapphire
"Takes away dev time"
hazy lynx
ok?
red copper
Now I see you're a furry
limber anchor
But i mean why have something in that most of the player base won’t even care that’s 4 hours long and is not any good like come on
limber anchor
Oh that explains a lot lol
regal sapphire
hey its goat!
red copper
hazy lynx
topkek
solid hinge
The bfv chatfilter is driving me insane lol
hazy lynx
white man
regal sapphire
goat is nice
limber anchor
Well I’m on console so I don’t have any problems with it lol
regal sapphire
red copper
regal sapphire
solid hinge
Who thoughr adding a filter that cant be turned off to. A 17 + game was a good idea
T
red copper
Apologies for flexxing but just know I had to do it to 'em
hazy lynx
white man on point butter
north lichen
I thought it's weird how there is a filter in the chat but not when you are down and crying for help- (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞
hazy lynx
''hey team there is ***** *** on B''
karmic summit
Wait you can't say Jerry?
regal sapphire
fooken medic
red copper
No idea
karmic summit
What if thats my name 😦
solid hinge
Well dice is swedish after all
red copper
I believe you can lol
hazy lynx
solid hinge
Why am i even surprised
hazy lynx
blank message
red copper
One of the announcers say Jerry so it would be fairly dumb to censor that in the in-game chat
Then again the filter isn't that great either when it comes to blocking certain words / sentences so rather be safe than sorry
hazy lynx
you can try to communicate in morse code and bypass the filter
solid hinge
Its a game let people flame eachother
hazy lynx
or you can just use a lot of s p a c e s
red copper
You could make a suggestion to have certain words whitelisted / blacklisted but I don't think they will do that
Which is fine with me
Since you will always have people saying 'Oh I want to be able to say this' and 'Oh but why we are allowed to say x and not y'?
red copper
That isn't a solution
hazy lynx
turn it off by default and add a option to toggle it in the server hosting settings if you want a christian server
red copper
That rather opens the opportunity for player to be even more toxic and cancerous towards eachother
red copper
That is okay in your eyes
solid hinge
Most other players eyes too
north lichen
Yeah, setting's option would be cool.
solid hinge
Yea
hazy lynx
t R i g G e r E d