#battlefield-legacy-titles

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No, because other classes don't have potential instakill guns

woven thistle
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ive been avoiding using them for that reason

latent cairn
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What if a medic picks up a sniper?

woven thistle
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well shieeeeet

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Then you have a glare

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Yupp. Thats the tradeoff. if you get rid of glint, a slew of other changes need to happen. I would be all for that tho

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Just wish I could have my slightly zoomed ironsight from BF1 back

woven thistle
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i like no glint better but that is just me, plus when my unskilled ass finally picks up a sniper i get rekt instantly

kindred orchid
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Is there even an option to remove the scope for bolt-action rifles?

woven thistle
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ye

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Same as any other gun

woven thistle
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i like the appurture sights

kindred orchid
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I never checked.

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Ironsight, aperture, 3x, 6x

kindred orchid
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Ahh, right.

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I fucking hate the aperture sight

woven thistle
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2x and your iron

kindred orchid
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Aperture has that circle thing where you don't know where to shoot if they're far away.

woven thistle
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its so good on the gewer carbine

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How is he not shot within 3 seconds from peeking

lofty widget
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Twitch skills.

woven thistle
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right?

vast heart
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Who the f uses aperture sights

woven thistle
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if that were me i would be ded as soon as i scoped

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i do

lucid marsh
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I do

woven thistle
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they are op

vast heart
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I’d rather build a brick wall on my upper receiver and aim through that

kindred orchid
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I read that the spotting scope does not give a glare.

lucid marsh
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On the thompson if I'm running a more long range

lofty widget
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The thing i hate about it is hes within 50m sometimes, and can literally do 4 headshots in 4 seconds

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It doesn't

woven thistle
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spotting scope does not

topaz dome
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smgs have the lattey sight, 1.25x cross +

kindred orchid
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So I generally use that to spot, swap to rifle and shoot.

lofty widget
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the bolt action time is that of a crack addict

lucid marsh
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oh I got confused

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The Howitzer for the churchill is so good, got a one shot 5 man so gooood

kindred orchid
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Especially since the flare is pretty poopy at this point.

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WTF are these piles of unaware, unmoving enemies he's getting

woven thistle
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i think you HAVE to be on adderal to be in faze

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They don't exist when I play

steel fjord
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do you receive cosmetics for playng the war stories?

topaz dome
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melee weapons

woven thistle
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you can get melee weps

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No, you get a melee weapon from each if you do all the dumb challenges

woven thistle
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but you have to do obnoxious challenges

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Tirailleur's stealth challenge in the last map... ooooooof

woven thistle
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I DID IT

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Me too

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And I fucking hated it

woven thistle
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AND IT DIDNT GIVE CREDIT

vast heart
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Lmao screw that

lofty widget
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If they remove glint, they need to make it 3x longer to pull the bolt back, and get scoped in again

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Meanwhile ppl be asking for straight pull bolts

kindred orchid
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I don't mind that, since I use the self-loading rifles. Hehe.

vast heart
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Tryna make me spend hours on missions that takr minutes to complete. Miss me with that dumb bs

woven thistle
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literally did it flawlessly and the enemies alerted when the bombs weent up so EA said lol fuck you

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Most of the challenges are easy AF

steel fjord
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either glint is on all forms of scopes or it doesnt

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But there's a few that are bullshit

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I would love a no scope bf. It would feel so much better in the setting too

woven thistle
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i hate that they are high beam headlights

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But it doesn't make sense to glint say, an LMG's scope

icy sluice
woven thistle
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i mean some of them are laser beams

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Yes, but they also don't instakill and aren't exactly hidden with the laser beam of bullets

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lomgs shouldnt have scopes. Not only are they laser beams but the fucking recoil would be insane looking down a 3x

steel fjord
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why not? those are the ones that make the most sense imo

kindred orchid
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I dunno', with whatever the netcode problems with TTD, the KE7 feels like an insta-kill to me.

steel fjord
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they don't insta kill? man where do i get that version of the game

woven thistle
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KE7 is an actual space gun

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The MG42 kills the fastest but it doesn't have a scope so

lofty widget
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the december 4th patch going to be huge

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KE7 is broke

steel fjord
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must be the same that faze guy is using where no1 shoots at him while scoped with the glint and all

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the mg42 is amazing. Its balanced.

woven thistle
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i finally got the Bren and i love it but its not as good as the KE7

lofty widget
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You have to setup and be ready. vulnerable

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Bren is great too, pop a 3x on it and never empty the magazine

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Tact reload is SO quick

woven thistle
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IT IS

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Id rather have the lewis guns's 47 rounds

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Or that

kindred orchid
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Yeah, the Bren was nice, but when I got the M30 Drilling, that was my go-to gun.

woven thistle
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lewis is also great but i have a nostalgia boner for the bren

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DUDE

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I loved the Lewis in BF1

woven thistle
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anyone else

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feel like the the 12g auto

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does like 3 dmg

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I dunno, haven't used it

kindred orchid
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You need to upgrade it.

woven thistle
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i hate it

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I felt like that in BF1 though when I was doing some dumb shotgun assignments

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Sometimes they'd 1-shot and sometimes do 0 damage

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The first 2 bullest out of the shotgun were kills for me. I was within 4 m tho

woven thistle
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shotguns in video games unless they are double barrels have the stopping power of a wet tissue

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Really depends

kindred orchid
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You need the extended range specialization.

woven thistle
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you need to be in melee range

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I hate double barrels tbh

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Reloading sucks

woven thistle
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tru

kindred orchid
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M30 drilling has been my baby, but it's a do or die type of play style.

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Lots of retreating after you blow your load.

woven thistle
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i double headshot a guy at like 6 meters with the 12g auto and did a combined 6 dmg

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not even joking

kindred orchid
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Don't shoot for the head.

woven thistle
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i mean i shoot center mass cus im a monkey but cmon

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6 dmg

kindred orchid
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Yeah, not sure about that damage.

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Once I got the specializations, it's been really dope.

woven thistle
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some war games i feel like devs have never fired a shotgun

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i get the balance part of it but come on man

kindred orchid
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But I also had full mastery M30 Drilling at that point.

woven thistle
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yo full mastery sten is an assault rifle btw

kindred orchid
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So having more than 2 shots with a shotgun made me go nuts.

woven thistle
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made me sad to switch to thompson

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Haha, I'm still working on unlocking the Thompson, trying to get MP40 mastery atm.

woven thistle
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thompson is so jarring at first

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couldnt kill shit

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fire rate was way too high

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still bad with it

tight kettle
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more bullets is more better

woven thistle
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yeah but when they all miss

kindred orchid
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I'd imagine you'd have to try to play it like a shotty, and with hipfire only.

woven thistle
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yeah especially with one tree

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but forget ads with it

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not happening

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Eh, you can kill with ADS better than hipfire at a certain distance but you won't be hitting further out targets

kindred orchid
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I swapped my specializations on my MP40 to be more accurate from hipfire instead of ADS and quality of life improved greatly.

woven thistle
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same cynikal

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it performs well in ads already and that hipfire boost is nice

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I just wish it did a tiny bit more damage, that's all I want

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Since the RPM is so slow

kindred orchid
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Ran around everywhere while crouched and hipfired and it was glorious.

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The crouch hipfire accuracy is so high

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Yeah.

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i noticed all smgs have the sam dmg cept the thompson

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which has like a whole 1 more

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Yeah, and that has like 2 pixels worth of more dmg

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Yeah exactly

woven thistle
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just got the krag and looked at its specs, maybe now i can get headshots

wild oxide
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Yeah, the Low Drag spec is very nice

woven thistle
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less bullet drop and zeroing at lvl 2 yes please

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also

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am i the only cuck who uses different loadouts for axis/allies?

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TFW you have to spec to unlock zeroing in a sniper rifle

woven thistle
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mfw tfw

wild oxide
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Not all Recon weapons have zeroing either, just Bolt-actions

kindred orchid
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I focus too much on assignments and masteries to have different load-outs.

woven thistle
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yo i actually really like the model 8 tho i got more headshot kills with that than any of the bolt actions so far

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lmao

merry ivy
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I am infuriated beyond existence itself after trying to play medic

calm meteor
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the lack of "proper" smg/assrifle ammo pouches disturbs me

merry ivy
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holy

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SHIT

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the SMGs are fucking peashooters

kindred orchid
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I like the Model 8 too, but I use it as a short-range assault kit.

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Yeah they are, Joe

calm meteor
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germans get a magazine vest

woven thistle
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i run into people saying smgs are trash but i think they are great

merry ivy
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not in open maps

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of which there are

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A LOT

solid hinge
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probably people from reddit

woven thistle
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well true but i also main medic so maybe im biased

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Don't say that out loud though, everyone will tell you that BF1 medics were super OP and that we have to have shit guns

woven thistle
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"damn medics getting top 5 on the leaderboard with only 6 kills"

solid hinge
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Smgs are trash

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Bf1 medics weren’t that op but they suck now

woven thistle
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my response has just been "stay mad while i have fun with them"

narrow moss
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k i got win 10 pro instead of win 10 enterprise and now i have DX12

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Did they get nerfed from beta? I feel like they did

merry ivy
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either you choose the super slow SMGs that get their ass kicked by KE-7’s at every range or choose the fast firing ones where you’re practically in melee range to hit more than two shots per mag

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its fucking infuriating

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I like to call it the KEK

solid hinge
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The sten was competing at almost any distance in the beta so they cancelled it out and gave them 10m range max

woven thistle
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idk the sten feels very well rounded to me and the mp40 is good

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havent tried much else but thompson and you need to be close for that

solid hinge
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So they suck pretty much

woven thistle
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sten can outrange lmgs LMAO

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what are you on

solid hinge
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Lol nothing beats an lmg

woven thistle
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get gud scrob xd

solid hinge
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Lmgs can take on people at sniping range

woven thistle
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idk man i can fight almost anything with a sten with lattay sight

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almost

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Yeah, unfortunately snipers aren't supressed by your LMG so you die

solid hinge
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Have you used another weapon?

woven thistle
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yes

solid hinge
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Cool you use your sten I’ll have a ke7 or a gewehr from 20m range I’ll win every time

woven thistle
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idk maybe i am just the sten whisperer

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idk man ive beat those LUL

wild oxide
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20m? Sten can easily cover that range

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KE7 is broken though

solid hinge
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I have used the sten well tactically

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But in an all out firefight I get slammed with it

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if u strafe with cover and use the gewehr with long scope u can stand a chance against most lmgs

woven thistle
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i honestly think the sten is balanced great

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Sten is one of the better SMGs probably

woven thistle
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i have used it to GREAT effect

solid hinge
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Yeah but smgs in general are trash

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They're not TRASH, I don't think, just not as good as they could be

sacred hull
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wtf?

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mp40 is insane

solid hinge
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mp40 is neat

sacred hull
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so is sten

kindred orchid
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I haven't used the Sten much, mostly the mp40.

sacred hull
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and the suomi is mad

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50 bullets in a clip

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Yeah, from 5 meters

solid hinge
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magazine

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not a clip

sacred hull
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alright mr military

woven thistle
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people who dont like smgs are just salty that they dont have literal snipers on medic anymore

sacred hull
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we're talking about a game

solid hinge
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I mean when they are upgraded they balance out but I’m just saying I’ll keep my gewehr from 20m and I won’t lose to anyone

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what about clipazine ?

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I don't want a sniper

sacred hull
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recon is love recon is life

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I want to do more damage than pebbles

ember roost
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get good at face shots?

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Unfortunately shit damage with a multiplier is just slightly less shit damage

ember roost
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Most snipers are one headshot

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No shit, I'm not talking about sniper rifles

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And the semi autos are head+body

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i could proll ybeat your gewehr at 20m with my pickaxe my man

solid hinge
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The gewehr is one of the most op guns I’ve ever used are you joking

woven thistle
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yeah the gewehr is good

solid hinge
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Please don’t say sten > gewehr

woven thistle
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but are YOU

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So SMGs are utter trash but you said you'll beat them any day with 2 weapons that are both OP

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Go figure

woven thistle
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yiiiiiiiikes

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SMGS DONT TWO SHOT OMG GARBAGE

solid hinge
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I don’t struggle at all with the stg either

kindred orchid
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M1907 > SMGs, there I win. 😛

solid hinge
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Or any gun really

woven thistle
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cookies

kindred orchid
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Not a fan of the STG.

solid hinge
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I have just found that smgs are crap

woven thistle
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my dad can beat up your dad

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They're most definitely not beaten by any gun but again, could use a buff

solid hinge
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Even short range I struggle with smgs when I’ve always been good with them

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I think at medium range, the SMGs start feeling like you're throwing pebbles at people.

solid hinge
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^^^

woven thistle
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my dad is literally a gewehr he will beat you at 20m any day

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Suomi and Thompson are good at close range, that's it tho

kindred orchid
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But it does take like 6-8 bullets at close range to kill someone.

solid hinge
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Have you tried using smgs in breakthrough?

kindred orchid
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That's why Suomi is so stronk.

woven thistle
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yes

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High mag capacity, high RPM

woven thistle
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before you say have you tried smg in/vs

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Thus win

woven thistle
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the answer is yes

solid hinge
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You get screwed because you don’t have the range

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I still don't think the range is the issue

woven thistle
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maybe if you play like a mong

kindred orchid
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You have to use smoke grenades to get close.

woven thistle
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medics aren't just their guns

kindred orchid
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Or go and flank.

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Anyhow, you say the range is too low but then you get everyone and their brother saying that mid-range medics would be OP

solid hinge
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I revived a squad mate and it gave me his sten and I was so useless on aero dome breakthrough I had to redeploy

kindred orchid
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Or be ready to prone when you shoot.

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Because BF1

woven thistle
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how did you manage that the buttons are different for reviving and picking up weapons

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Not on console

kindred orchid
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BF1 SMGs were god tier.

solid hinge
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Have you not had the glitch where it picks up their weapon and yeah not on console?

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Right, but BF1 medics had medium/long range guns¨

woven thistle
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i have not and oof console controls restraints

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I've not had that glitch, no

kindred orchid
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Also all medics did were revive snipers in BF1. 😛

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I don't have much issue with range on medics, you just gotta get close or fight in close quarters points and the thompson is god

woven thistle
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medics WERE snipers on bf1

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modragon bois

lucid marsh
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You can tap fire people at medium range pretty reliably

solid hinge
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I was a great medic bf1 tbf i ptfod as did many

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Again, killing at close range is an issue with the OTHER SMGs, which are all SMGs nevertheless, supposedly excelling in close range, yet they don't

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The answer shouldn't be "use the suomi/tommy"

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Accuracy with smgs besides suomi/tommy isn't an issue either

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It's the fucking BB gun tier damage

kindred orchid
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Almost got that golden mp40.

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Looks so beautiful.

woven thistle
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even the tommy isnt perfect that fire rate spec makes your clips run out in .00000000000000001 seconds

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so in close range if you miss you die

lucid marsh
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Well for the emp and mp34, range is their virtue so I'd get why they'd be worse at close

woven thistle
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or if there is more than say 2 guys

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But they're still SMGs

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How the F do they lose to other stuff at CQC

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They most definitely do at further ranges

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Because ARs and such are better at that range

woven thistle
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prolly cus of how damage scaling works

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smgs are pretty flat but others scale up closer

lucid marsh
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Just take the drum mag plus hipfire last and the tommy still rips through people, you can easily kill 2 people if

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Thus, buff the goddamn damage

woven thistle
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like all the smgs have the same damage but with any of the rifles they vary

solid hinge
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Basically the main problem with smgs is that they should win most close quarter fights but they have almost no advantages when they aren’t fully upgraded

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so if you want to keep the smgs all lined up like that

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they gotta scale

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what is press review on bf5 u know ?

merry ivy
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BF1 medics had problems fighting in close quarters

BFV medics have problems fighting at any range

cedar bronze
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Anyone notice how some outfits in armory show they have gloves but when you equip them there are none?

lucid marsh
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Maybe with the ttk getting upped they might get a bit better

woven thistle
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theres a lot of things like that phantom

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like hair

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😡

kindred orchid
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It is a bit better with the increased ttk.

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But I don't think a global change like that is the right way to go.

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They better not touch the TTK

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TTD has issues

woven thistle
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ttk feel pretty nice

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idk im gonna go beat some guys' gewehrs at 20m with my sten laters

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Where are you even seeing hair in the armory

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Oh wait nvm

woven thistle
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the characters all have hair

merry ivy
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TTD is more of a problem than TTK

woven thistle
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i dont even want all out hair customization just wish they had more than the buzz on every helmet

merry ivy
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I have been trying to make medic actually fucking work for jack fucking shit but I give up

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they’re not only shit at killing things but they’re a lot less useful as a whole

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other classes can carry medical pouches

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revives take longer

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people in squads can revive anyways

woven thistle
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idk i just tell anyone who doesnt like medic to play assault i think medics are great

lucid marsh
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Tbh once I played with and unlocked the thompson my gunfights got a lot easier

merry ivy
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smokes are about as opaque as the khashoggi murder

woven thistle
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other classes carry 1 med pouch

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otherwise they need a med crate or medic to replenish

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also you dont full heal over time

lucid marsh
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The suomi is hard to rank up but is good once rank 4

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Medics aren't useless, just their guns are a little eh and smokes could do with better coverage

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They're nowhere near useless

lucid marsh
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The mp40 is an allrounder and the mp34 is great at range

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To much smoke spam like grenade spam in bf1

woven thistle
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the amount of headshots recieved through smoke is triggering

lucid marsh
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Its necessary tho with all these snipers and especially bipods

woven thistle
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but what are they gonna dro remove spotting smopletely

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Problem is they "removed spotting" but then someone across the map just equips the scope and scans the area real quick

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There you are, spotted in smoke

woven thistle
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some snipers dont even do that

lucid marsh
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Its more the suppression from supports that pings you in smoke usually

woven thistle
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ye

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True

woven thistle
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you cant actually spot with scope thru smoke

charred matrix
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why does aiming feel so different, in BF1 it felt perfect but now everything feels so slow

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I meant before the smoke pops or w/e but yeah, supports definitely tag you more

woven thistle
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yeyeye

lucid marsh
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They just fire off a few rounds, you get pinged and ratatat

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I just wish tags weren't visible at all if you're in smoke

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In any case

woven thistle
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my suppression spots never go off idk why

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Like, smoke needs a spot-removal mechanic or smth, not just visual cover

woven thistle
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that would make sense

merry ivy
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smoke grenades are more transparent than an atom thick pane of glass

woven thistle
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they just scatter too much around the edges

lucid marsh
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Did anyone try out the mesh round? Is it any good to get on the churchill if you're running Howitzer?

woven thistle
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sometimes (and i have a shit pc) enemy smoke doesnt even render proper and i can see thru it

merry ivy
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they were fine in BF1 and even then barely anyone used them

woven thistle
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welp ima dip laters my doobs

lucid marsh
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Laters

clever tulip
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🖖

charred matrix
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I fucking died laughing when I learned that the Stuka doesn't come with a bomb, a light bomber doesn't come with bombs, 10/10 game happy I bought it

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Half the sniper rifles don't come with a zeroing capability either

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Which is fairly interesting

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Zeroing spec ?

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Well yeah, but you'd think it was in by default

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Eh

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Here, play the class with the longest range weapons but you can't zero past 60m unless you level up the gun

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Not that I care for long cause as soon as I get my outfit, I'm never playing recon again

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But still, a bit weird if you ask me

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Also don't any other rifles have bayonets besides the bolt actions? Haven't seen any so far

wild oxide
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The RSC can get a Bayonet, but that's it

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For the Semi-autos

lucid marsh
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You can fix a bayonet on a smg

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Which ehm

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Is certainly interedting

wild oxide
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Wait you can?

lucid marsh
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Yeah xD I don't remember which one

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But there is one smg which can get it

wild oxide
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Weird

lucid marsh
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You'd think an smg wouldn't need it

regal sapphire
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maybe it makes smg useful xd

arctic quiver
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Anybody playing on ps4 bf1?

lucid marsh
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Has anyone tried out the howitzer upgrade for the churchill, I killed a panzer in what felt like one hit, it didn't look in flames at all and I hit it straight on the top

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Interested in the new map to test it out more

lofty widget
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Interestd in the next BF numerical structure. V is where you quit. VI sounds dopey

icy sluice
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VV

lofty widget
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Battlefield Next.

uneven maple
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X

wild oxide
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Battlefield VwV

lofty widget
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BF WvW in space

uneven maple
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Battlefield XoXo

lofty widget
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^ most likely gj mate

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Inclusive to anime, furries, and trans

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"Be the warrior YOU want to be"

uneven maple
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U know this mang

hollow galleon
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Kill enemy with lipstick and dildos

uneven maple
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Ahhh yes because the military is always so inclusive

lofty widget
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dildos are the new bayonets

uneven maple
#

“Just do you boo”

lofty widget
#

Takes 7 hits tho

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must be behind enemy

hollow galleon
#

1 ass hit kill

lofty widget
#

Upgrades include" Vibration, wiggles

uneven maple
#

As long as eve does their own thing, we’ll be ok

#

Said no one ever

solid hinge
#

Are there any stats for who has the most hours ingame on battlefield on any site?

mellow shuttle
#

is there a way to reduce the fog of war on some maps

carmine jackal
#

lul just REKT shroud crew in bf5. EZPZ spotting OP.

crisp forge
#

I think its the same regardless of graphic settings

icy sluice
#

Model 8 is good for Aggressive Recon

solid hinge
icy sluice
#

Looks nice

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But that picture is extremely dark

mellow shuttle
#

the dust and fog on some maps on xbox is so bad

#

i hate not seeing more than 50 feet in front

icy sluice
#

Most likely dynamic weather

#

It's supposed to do that

solid hinge
#

Ye I got the brightness down

#

just missing the 2 autos left

icy sluice
#

I play Recon the least

solid hinge
#

I normally dont play Recon, but I wanted to start on that since its the hardest ones

#

once im done with the 2 autos the worst shit is over

#

Dice pls remove girls for BF V thats un-realstic

mossy badge
#

Can't tell if serious or memeing
woahthink

latent cairn
lofty widget
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Dice please make everyone see the same amount of vegetation on pcs, its 2018

split plank
#

Dice please nerf the Liberator

ember roost
#

^

#

It reloads too fast

rocky verge
#

Dice add the kolibre

#

To bfv

latent cairn
#

lol

rocky verge
#

I need company coins so bad

kindred orchid
#

Don't we all.

mossy badge
#

I've got like 10 levels to go + all the starting assignments for guns

#

y'all need to pace yourselves

ember roost
#

no

mellow shuttle
#

i'm having the hardest time figuring out how fast bullets travel in thsi game

#

some shots feel like hit scan, some shots around same distance feel like I have to lead 3 inches

tight kettle
#

i have 40k coins left

proper tundra
#

Anyone on PS4 trying to squad up

tight kettle
#

only unlocked 2 weapons and 2 tanks doe :]

solid hinge
#

aeeeeeeeey

brave cypress
#

I'm soooo happy they got rid of the BF1 style AT mine deployment

#

Most frustrating thing in that game tbh

rocky verge
#

Got 3 classes to level 20

#

Assault last one left

brave cypress
#

Having to place the mines like 2 yards away from the enemy tanks

boreal sail
#

How can a BF109 turn as much as a Spitfire?

#

I dont understand it

tight kettle
#

magic

mossy badge
#

Because they can in Battlefield ?

icy sluice
#

Only™ in™ Battlefield™ V™

boreal sail
#

Its just impossible to get it out of your back

calm meteor
#

advanced maneuverability upgrade?

strong gorge
#

Imagine getting shot down as a spitfire my a bomber OMEGALUL

boreal sail
#

by the gunner yes, by the bomber no

solid hinge
#

I really hope dice doesn’t change the ttk but fixes the current ttd issues with one frame deaths and the netcode if that’s a part of it

boreal sail
#

i think the nitrous bost may help to get away from the BF109

proven quartz
#

TTD needs fixing TTK is perfect

granite rune
#

bf v is much fun with squads

solid hinge
#

@proven quartz agreed

granite rune
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also nerf the ke7 and sturm gewehr and i am gucci

boreal sail
#

but considering that i made less than a 1000 points by playing on a spitfire thats going to take a long time

#

most points i got were from dropping flares

hoary steppe
#

em

#

Worth buying BF1?

boreal sail
#

sure

rocky verge
#

What a better fighter for the germans and British

hoary steppe
#

Idk if Ill have ppl to play with lol

boreal sail
#

i think the second spitfire

rocky verge
#

VB spitfire?

hoary steppe
#

all i see is BFV xD

boreal sail
#

there is enough people still on BF1

drowsy dew
#

Fix TTD, but also make it easier to jump or vault around objects or out of windows

rocky verge
#

The VB spitfire @boreal sail

boreal sail
#

Aye

rocky verge
#

Or VA?

hoary steppe
#

not paying 40$ for an unfinished game omegalul

boreal sail
#

its a bit faster without modifications

rocky verge
#

And what about for germans

boreal sail
#

i havent play them much

rocky verge
#

I use the bf109 for now

#

Trying to see witch one good

#

I use the ju88 after I've been hating on it

#

God help me XD

boreal sail
#

i mostly use the stuka on the german side

rocky verge
#

Stuka 1 or stuka 2

serene patrol
#

good, take advantage of ju88 before it gets nerfed into the ground

boreal sail
#

i think the G6 is more powerfull since it can have Minengeschoss shells

#

the first stuka

rocky verge
#

I use the second stuka

boreal sail
#

B1

rocky verge
#

For that auto cannon

boreal sail
rocky verge
#

And I can spam spawn with at mines

boreal sail
#

something i also hate about planes is the people who spawn camp behind you

rocky verge
#

The paratrooper upgrade seems special on a plane

#

Might be good in operations

boreal sail
#

the paratrooping mines?

fallow venture
#

just subbed to premier and dling the game rn

#

hows medic in V

boreal sail
#

Fo76 is on sale!

fallow venture
midnight nimbus
#

play medic to sit in corners and nuke people with the zoomi

solid hinge
mellow shuttle
#

is the gewehr m95 mastery worded correctly?

#

kill 20 enemies crouched?

spiral adder
#

@rocky verge noone ever spawns when i got the paratrooper thing on

#

Maybe its bugged or noone bothers

rocky verge
#

Maybe

#

But that can be good

#

To stop spawn camping

#

@spiral adder

boreal sail
#

i think only your squad can spawn

drowsy dew
#

Nerfthe sten at range

boreal sail
#

wut?

mossy badge
#

really ?

#

Sure, why don't we nerf medic weapons to the point of being completely useless

boreal sail
#

I wish we had more planes, rather than having 2spitfires/bf109s we had a Fw190 and a hurricane

#

or a Typhoon

dim gazelle
#

Eww

#

Pilots

#

No skill for 1 vs 1

serene patrol
#

add doritos back

tight kettle
#

i want to fly in the b29 superfortress and drop nukes

fathom pebble
#

you guys wanna see the most insane multi kill with a PIAT?

tight kettle
#

i throw rocks further than that pansy ass piat thing

#

but, sure

fathom pebble
tight kettle
#

jiucy

solid hinge
fathom pebble
#

but still sry for ads shouldnt post the video here 😄

solid hinge
#

so i have a small, question

#

How does one unlock the Piat when you are already rank 11 in Assault?

wary mason
#

:U

#

JJ

fathom pebble
#

tbh Hess I deserve it that was like a 1 in a billion shot

wary mason
solid hinge
#

lmao

fathom pebble
#

but rules are rules I need to give the example GWczeHowdy

regal sapphire
#

Banne yourself

split plank
#

Aight

#

bet

solid hinge
fathom pebble
#

Done already reported myself SadCat

ember roost
#

Name checks out

solid hinge
#

also how much better IS the MG-42 compared to the 34

ember roost
#

at least 8 better

solid hinge
#

like 8 dead brits better?

hoary steppe
#

big meme mods xD

solid hinge
ember roost
#

42 gets high velocity bullets, so hitting moving things is much easier

#

It's more like the Krag vs the M95

sullen mist
#

Does the MG-34 have any advantages over the 42 in bfV?

ember roost
#

Drum mags mean faster reloads

#

But the 42 gets 250 belts and faster reload, so

solid hinge
#

I used the 250 and lightened bolt

#

basically i like to hold down corners

#

maybe keep people from moving out in the open

ember roost
#

250 and light bolt are the same tier

random dust
#

is anyone else not able to equip the flare gun on their british recon?

solid hinge
#

@ember roost for Mg-34

ember roost
#

Ah, ok

solid hinge
#

if i have to choose between 250 belt or lightened bolt i may not be able to cope.

tight kettle
#

i want to try the mg42

#

but i dont want to play too long to unlock it

solid hinge
#

also am i the only one who uses weapons that the faction would use?

random dust
#

you're in the minority, that's for sure

solid hinge
#

Depends on the mood.

#

hell in BF1 it took me ages for the Arisaka so i could use it for the ottomans t make it differant from the germans

random dust
#

can anyone check on that spotting flare thing for me? I can't find anything online about it.

solid hinge
#

i cant eqiup th PIAT for what its worth

random dust
#

does it let you on one faction and not the other? Or just not usable outright?

solid hinge
#

Just not usable

#

in game it says "avalible next round"

#

i even checked the progression, says i did.

random dust
#

hm yeah that's a different issue then

#

it's not even visible as an option on my allied recon

solid hinge
random dust
#

but i have it equipped on my axis one.

solid hinge
#

weird

random dust
#

mhm

#

i'll run a repair see if that does anything.

#

doubt it thou

vagrant seal
#

Tfw your actual competent friend finally buys BF and the good times roll again

solid hinge
#

im on Xb1

#

so im kinda screwed until a patch

#

i did hear about simply getting the next rank THEN it will unlock

#

i never got the hate for BFV after the gameplay trailer

#

now the reveal i get

#

Trevor noah is terrible

vital isle
#

So anyone else ever get stuck in that twisted metal map in a never ending fight? Was in a two hour long back and forth last night.

solid hinge
#

no

random dust
#

was it front lines?

solid hinge
#

oh that explains it

serene patrol
#

12 bomber kill on narvik lul

zinc vale
#

turns out if you don't get unlocks because you leave a match early you get them with the next unlock

#

so as long as you're not at rank 20 it's fine

solid hinge
#

@zinc vale thanks bud

zinc vale
#

yeah playing support, didn't get the rank 8 stuff

#

got to rank 10 and got it plus the lewis gun

young pecan
#

I can't for the life of me get 20 headshots in a round while prone

solid hinge
#

Lmap use the MMGs

young pecan
#

just... going prone is a bad idea in general when sniping

haughty harbor
#

Yo. Downloading BFV now, just bought it..... What do I need to know?

young pecan
#

no its for Lee Enfield mastery V

zinc vale
#

what class do you wanna play dukers?

#

also bombers are op still

solid hinge
#

@haughty harbor MG-34

#

profit

haughty harbor
#

I play medic and have been playing since 1942. My favorite BF game was BF2.... Played 5v5 inf only competitively

young pecan
#

@haughty harbor umm it plays nothing like bf1, there's recoil patterns, no suppression, no bayonets, no gas grenades (thank god)

haughty harbor
#

Lets squad up and get some games going once I get downloaded....

zinc vale
#

medic is weird, certainly got the least strong weapons

#

but some are great imo, medic main too

solid hinge
#

also does anyone else think the pilot who switches seats to the gunner is pure cancer?

haughty harbor
#

I played BF1 a little bit... Not much BF4... BF3 a good amount... BFBC2 a bunch... and BF2 tonssss

zinc vale
#

Certainly the suomi for cqb and the mp40 for pushing longer ranges early on as medic

lapis mist
#

is Battlefield 1 worth getting now?

young pecan
#

I've heard a lot of people say BFV is more towards the BF2 style game but I haven't played it myself

solid hinge
#

Has been worth getting for a while

zinc vale
#

how much is bf1?

solid hinge
#

hell its free on XB1

fallow venture
#

£5

haughty harbor
#

BF1 is cool for the novelty of playing a different war that has never really been in a video game. BF1 is neat AF

lapis mist
#

5

fallow venture
#

on sale right now

young pecan
#

its 5 bucks isnt it?

zinc vale
#

oh hell yeah

haughty harbor
#

5 bucks? BF1 worth it.

lapis mist
#

are the dlc mandatory?

zinc vale
#

eh, not really

haughty harbor
#

Okay what else do I need to know early on for BFV??? Besides lower all my graphic settings to low so I have a chance ... even tho my computer is 1337

young pecan
#

ive sunk over 700 hours into BF1. For me, there's no reason to play it when I have BFV

solid hinge
#

if you want more guns

zinc vale
#

I'd say with BFV it just takes getting use too, you can get alot more points as a medic reviving and healing than most games, spamming the bandage patch key around people is a good idea, throw them bandags

haughty harbor
#

Is there hardcore mode yet? what are some good servers? do I have to play a single player intro mission to unlock multiplayer?

solid hinge
#

yea

fallow venture
#

what i really like about BFV is the tide of war system

#

really awesome idea

solid hinge
#

You like tides of war?

fallow venture
#

i mean, in theory, the last map we'll probably get is the battle of berlin which just seems cool imo

haughty harbor
#

ELI5 tides of war

solid hinge
#

You mean EA creating all the models, maps, vehicles and skins

#

and then trickling them?

fallow venture
#

tide of war starts at the start of ww2

solid hinge
#

You realize they aren't working on making new stuff anymore

fallow venture
#

and progresses throughout the war

zinc vale
#

yeah there's an intro, no hardcore but the games alot more hardcore so to say, and personally i like the breakthrough gamemode

#

just bf1 grand ops

solid hinge
#

the artists have moved on to new projects

zinc vale
#

ops

fallow venture
#

its 1940 atm

solid hinge
#

Last map might be Okinawa

fallow venture
#

so the US should be introduced like

solid hinge
#

tides of wars means they dont release it all at once

fallow venture
#

mid 2019 or something

solid hinge
#

the developers arent making anything new

#

because that was after berlin

#

all those maps are done

haughty harbor
#

Real talk - anyone play BF2 back in the day?

solid hinge
#

all the models are done

#

i did

#

its a model to milk more money

fallow venture
#

how do we know its all done

solid hinge
#

2142 too

fallow venture
#

thats a fuck ton of content to do

zinc vale
#

how do they milk more money when they don't charge for it?

haughty harbor
#

2142 was sick word word

solid hinge
#

how can it milk money when its free

fallow venture
#

also its a immense amount of content to do

#

in 1 go

zinc vale
#

the games unfinished enough as it is pepe

fallow venture
#

its p much how they usually do it

#

but its in the order of how the war went

solid hinge
#

The idea is that they sold copies at pre orders

#

sold copies at launch

#

people who did not buy the game

#

will be roped in when they say

#

also wake island is basically confirmed for a remake

#

"hey look new content!"

#

i mean

#

when they're really saying

fallow venture
#

i mean, its 8 maps at launch, BF1 launched with what

#

9?

haughty harbor
#

Will there be a D-Day map u guys think? Pacific theater? Battle of the Bulge? Operation Market Garden? Screaming Eagles missions / maps?

solid hinge
#

"here's stuff we ddnt give out at first!"

haughty harbor
#

hows single player

fallow venture
#

100000000% we get D DAY

zinc vale
#

right now i think tides of war the idea has potential, and the stuff is cool, but from the roadmap it's like

solid hinge
#

single player is ok

zinc vale
#

one map now

haughty harbor
#

wake island is a go huh? sick

zinc vale
#

greek maps

fallow venture
#

and pacific is waaay too iconic

zinc vale
#

why not more maps instead of BR and Coop

solid hinge
#

has to be

#

@haughty harbor

zinc vale
#

but whatever, i'm sure people will like BR and coop

fallow venture
#

battle of crete is gunna be sick

#

has it ever been done in AAA before

solid hinge
#

its been in EVERY BF game save for BC1 2 and i think 4 and 1

fallow venture
#

the pacific war is going to be really fun

haughty harbor
#

I miss Medal of Honor Frontlines

fallow venture
#

i hope they have bruma maps btw

zinc vale
#

Nah i don't think it has been, and after seeing how good the lighting in this game is on hamada damn

fallow venture
#

jungle warfare

zinc vale
#

greece would look sick

solid hinge
#

im wondering if they will do Hong kong

haughty harbor
#

Pacific theater games are sick AF too so that should be great....

fallow venture
#

stalingrad in frostbite = GWfroggyFeelsUpMan

mossy badge
#

D-DAY IN FROSTBITE

haughty harbor
#

Cant wait to headbutt a female japanese warrior with tiggle bitties

fallow venture
#

i hope stalingrad is just balls to the wall

mossy badge
#

KURSK IN FROSTBITE

haughty harbor
#

AMIRITE?!?!?!?!

zinc vale
#

The word of the day always with this potential

solid hinge
#

they already did Tsaritsyn

zinc vale
#

got all the potential in the world

#

if they actually deliver

fallow venture
#

wait

solid hinge
#

might as well be Stalingrad

fallow venture
#

will we get north africa?

solid hinge
#

already did

zinc vale
#

it's ingame now

haughty harbor
#

isnt there tank battles in north africa

fallow venture
#

oh

#

WTF

zinc vale
#

hamada and aerodrome

mossy badge
#

We already have North Africa

fallow venture
#

really

#

LMAO

solid hinge
mossy badge
#

....

amber notch
#

Lol

haughty harbor
#

Pearl Harbor????

fallow venture
#

i haven't played it..

mossy badge
#

What, its not South Africa mate...

fallow venture
#

its downloading

#

:-(

haughty harbor
#

think we get a pearl harbor map

solid hinge
#

but thats Fall of Tobruk

fallow venture
#

i know norway is in and netherlands

amber notch
#

They haven’t said anything about the pacific front

zinc vale
#

Yeah we got 2 north africa, 2 netherlands, 2 norway and 2 france

fallow venture
#

didnt know north africa was

#

oof

amber notch
#

We might not even get Japan

fallow venture
#

no way they dont do japan man

#

pacific war is like super iconic to BF

amber notch
#

Could just focus on the eastern and northern fronts

haughty harbor
#

that would be a big fail on DICE/EA imo if no pacific theater... big fail...

fallow venture
#

also its a huge player in ww2

#

with its own guns

solid hinge
#

they should just release the US, Japs and Russian armies

#

and release a map editor

zinc vale
#

one thing i'm certainly pleased with if is the bf1 guns in the game tbh

solid hinge
#

as we move into into 42 and 43 we might see chasing Afrika Korps out of Africa and into italy

zinc vale
#

they feel different and cool and fit around the other weapons

fallow venture
#

oh shit

#

italy

zinc vale
#

don't feel lazy like i suspected

solid hinge
#

also irc italians are gonna be a thing

fallow venture
#

tbh tho... they might con the italians and just put the germans there, the italians were dogshit

amber notch
haughty harbor
#

Currently downloading @ 16% ............. zzZzzZZZzzZZzz

amber notch
#

Lol

solid hinge
#

because one of the concept arts had a MC-202 irc

fallow venture
#

would love to see italy

#

really hope we get UK vs Japan tho too

amber notch
#

If they do the pacific theatre they have no choice but to add behemoths again

fallow venture
#

night jungle map

amber notch
#

And they said they won’t do it

solid hinge
#

how?

amber notch
#

Ever again

fallow venture
#

battleship?

zinc vale
#

I mean recently some files got datamined and there's files for a bunch of british/french/german and then some other guns in there

haughty harbor
#

wut are behemoths? i played BF1 but didnt get toooooo invested

amber notch
#

If it’s going to be focused around the pacific theatre, they will need to add a battleship

zinc vale
#

I think flakfire and westie did videos on it

fallow venture
#

well

amber notch
#

Otherwise it might as well be called battleships

mossy badge
#

What about Midway

zinc vale
#

All i remember the medic gets the sterling smg that'll be sick

solid hinge
#

back in BF-1942 we had Battleships

haughty harbor
#

is the 80$ BFV version worth it or no

solid hinge
#

even Carriers and destroyers

fallow venture
#

i remember 1942 had submarines

#

submarines were wank tho

amber notch
zinc vale
#

it's just cosmetics @haughty harbor

fallow venture
#

and no one used them

zinc vale
#

look em up

haughty harbor
#

tite i got got

amber notch
#

We will see

#

Nothing confirmed yet

#

Only thing we know is the US army is coming

fallow venture
#

will we get carrier mode in V?

#

soviet is like

#

99% confirmed

amber notch
zinc vale
#

The only stuff confirmed now is the december 4th stuff, which is the tank map and the vikers machine gun

fallow venture
#

no way they dont do soviets tbh

amber notch
#

Where did they say this?

mossy badge
#

POW, how many creepy emojis do you fucking own

fallow venture
#

the customization alone is going to be 10/10

#

well they haven't mentioned soviets but come on

amber notch
#

So they haven’t actually said anything about Russia

fallow venture
#

its the SOVIETS

#

coolest looking army in ww2 and has some of the biggest and most iconic battles

amber notch
zinc vale
#

I mean, if my medic can't have ppsh i'll be big map

fallow venture
#

it would be like not having france in BF1

zinc vale
#

also t-34 please

solid hinge
#

I wonder if they will do seprete factions or have em all on the same team?

mossy badge
#

Nah, The Germans had the coolest looking army

haughty harbor
#

WW2 game with No Soviets, No Pacific front.... that would be WHACK AF and honestly ......... weaaakkk..... I lose respect for EA and Dice nearly every release..... what happened???

amber notch
#

@solid hinge sans team

mossy badge
#

With that Hugo Boss 1934 collection and all

amber notch
#

Same

zinc vale
#

I will become a tank main for t-34 bt-7 dice plz

solid hinge
#

no

fallow venture
#

russian winter coats = sick af

haughty harbor
#

EA PEAKED AT BF2 change my view

amber notch
#

Allies and Axis

solid hinge
#

no god no

amber notch
#

That’s how it would be

#

That’s just wasting data

midnight nimbus
#

lmao BF2

solid hinge
#

So americans at Kursk lmao

midnight nimbus
#

good meme

amber notch
#

If they do seperate factions, they can just add characters like they have now

fallow venture
#

wait what makes you say that mike

#

i heard they mentioned soviets will be their own army

#

not allies

solid hinge
#

as they should

amber notch
#

German soldiers fighting in the pacific

haughty harbor
#

@midnight nimbus dont lul at me or BF2

fallow venture
#

tiger tank defending wake island

amber notch
#

Lol

solid hinge
#

the western allies have fought closely in almost any theatre

fallow venture
#

any guesses what the soviet maps will be?

amber notch
zinc vale
#

I mean they don't have any russian names and if they we're just gonna do that i would have thought the axis would have asians already

haughty harbor
#

Stalingrad probably

midnight nimbus
#

imagine BF2 Remastered in 2018

fallow venture
#

stalingrad, kursk, berlin, whatelse would you like to see

zinc vale
#

not just whites

solid hinge
#

Kursk perhaps

amber notch
#

They haven’t said anything about Russia

#

😩

haughty harbor
#

BF2 remastered in 2018 would be sickkkkkk

amber notch
#

We only know the Us is coming

fallow venture
#

well

#

iirc

amber notch
#

Only faction so far

midnight nimbus
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BF2 Remastered would tank so hard

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It was the OG game with Ranks, Unlocks, Awards, etc.... it was badass!!!!!

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If they add Russia

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they did mention soviets, in regards to them beign their own faction

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They will do Stalingrad

midnight nimbus
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it has so much stuff people hate

amber notch
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Easily

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let me find it

haughty harbor
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No it wouldnt why would u hate lol

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Like what @midnight nimbus

midnight nimbus
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BF2 has fucktons of spread, tons of grenades

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good vehicles

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here you guys go

midnight nimbus
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you know, the stuff people hate

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he syas it here

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soviets are def coming

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and they wont be allies

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Nerf the grenades yes i agree.... Spread is okay imo... L2 shoot or tap ..... Vehicles can be balanced more i agree... I'm an infantry guy unlesss its a big ass map and even then... INFANTRY ONLY FTW

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irc the soviets had their own faction

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Until DICE says it’s confirmed might not be true

midnight nimbus
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BF2 ADS base spread is similar to BF1 hip base spread

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tapping still sux

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Three years later we get Russia

fallow venture
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that guy is DICE

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hes the online producer

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Oh boy

amber notch
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Until it’s in an actual update

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Here we go

midnight nimbus
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tigge is a main producer

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Either he said its actually coming or its speculation.

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REAL TALK:::: ------ Did i just waste my money on BFV or is it actually worth it

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It most likely may, but they may change their minds as well

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The US, is 100% confirmed coming, because it’s been shown in DEV talks.

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^^

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We are basing a whole faction coming from a tweet

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That’s silly

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making new factions is actually more in their interest than mixing them in

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cause then people need to buy new cosmetics

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lol

amber notch
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Until dice publicly says “The Soviet Union is coming”

remote helm
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well we need russia and US to be accurate

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Define accurate

haughty harbor
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how hard could making a new faction be anyways? Models.. Guns... Vehicles... ? Faction specific maps.... tf?

zinc vale
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you can't just keep your allied/axis cosmetics if you gotta buy soviet/japanese ones too

remote helm
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also who started the rumor that the flakpanzer was fake?

amber notch
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Let me run around with a broken leg

midnight nimbus
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new faction is a ton of new assets

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Which Flakpanzer @remote helm
The Wirbelwind/Ostwind or the Valentine AA

midnight nimbus
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it's a lot of work

amber notch
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The game is only 50gbs

haughty harbor
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I know

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Destiny is much larger and has much more content and is currently at 100gbs

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They can fit it

remote helm
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the german ones someone said a rumor was they are fake and i know they aren't

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"made up by dice and EA"

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Yeah, that's BS.

Both the Wirbelwind and Ostwind were produced.
The Valentine AA on the other hand is a complete rumor

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They just stuck the AA turret to the valentine chassis

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Literally

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Lol

remote helm
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i mean it is true

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they did that with alot of tanks

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No...

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The Valentine AA never existed

haughty harbor
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but look at it this way::: All of us here in discord are executives planning to design a WW2 game... and we're like okay cool - lets relaunch a WW2 game for BF series when the series started with 1942... okay... lets do it...

Let's launch without USA or Soviets or Pacific Theater / Japan ....

Sounds good, great plan.. this will be a great game...

.... no? wtf who thinks that way...

and if thats how it turns out, I will be VERY disappointed in EA / Dice.... this is my favorite franchise and I might just remove myself from buying their games if that is the case

remote helm
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you sure im pretty sure it was

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Nope

midnight nimbus
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D2 uses a different engine, and iirc, everything in BF takes up a ton of space

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The Crusader AA on the other hand @remote helm

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That existed (Granted in a few variations)

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Also another legit gripe::

WHY THE F**** DO WE HAVE OPTICS FOR WEAPONS???? WHAT HAPPENED TO IRON SIGHTS

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IRON SIGHTS OR DIE

midnight nimbus
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you have iron sight options

amber notch
haughty harbor
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GTFO lazers on my M1

midnight nimbus
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no one wants to use iron sights in a modern game

amber notch
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You have iron sights lol

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just use them

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I feel like this channel always has one person moaning about the game

midnight nimbus
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iron sights give you a solid ADS time buff

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At least

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More like a whole choir @restive sigil

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IMO : Optics shouldnt be in a WW2 game. it made me sick to see them in CoDWW2 (i hate CoD now... OG CoD was sick back in the day, 1 and 2 and MW1 and MW2 were the best...)

midnight nimbus
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BFV optics suck anyways

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Not really.

midnight nimbus
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who cares about authenticity

haughty harbor
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but really? Optics in a WW2 game? wtf

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I care.. a little bit?

midnight nimbus
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you can be a German with a Thompson

solid hinge
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only ironsights would make the game very, very bland

haughty harbor
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like really.... OH BRB SARGE LEMME LOAD UP MY TOMMY WITH A RED DOT

midnight nimbus
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why not optics that existed at the time?

solid hinge
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with only 1x zoom

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If you guys want a truly authentic experience, go play Post Scriptum or Hell Let Loose (Eventually)

amber notch
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^

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Jesus

midnight nimbus
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gimme an AK-47 in BFV

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who cares

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Historical accuracy is out the window at this point. Play the game if you like it, if not, don't.

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HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD THIS EXACT SAME SENTANCES

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It never ends

solid hinge
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to be fair

amber notch
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Why can’t I use the AEK in bfv

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😩😩

midnight nimbus
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the further away BF moves from a milsim immersion game, the better

wild oxide
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Where are my Frag Rounds

haughty harbor
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Idk just my opinion.. optics are lame... I want Iront sights.. iron sights are boss

midnight nimbus
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AEK in BFV would unironically improve the game

solid hinge
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hearing different people complain about the same thing is not an argument @mossy badge

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Use iron sights then

amber notch
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USAS 12 frag

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You fucking have iron sights, use them.

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No one is stopping you

midnight nimbus
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iron sights are good too

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I will i will just saying sharing my wee little voice