battlefield-legacy-titles

[glad wasp]

considering each have 5 rounds

zh29 can kill 2, model 8 only 1

[midnight nimbus]

both can kill 2 people per mag

[glad wasp]

model 8 carries 6?

[mossy badge]

Nope, 5

[midnight nimbus]

Model 8 is 2-3 BTK

[glad wasp]

its 3

[midnight nimbus]

3BTK maximum

it's 2BTK at <50m

[glad wasp]

its always 2 for zh29

[midnight nimbus]

they fill different niches

Model 8 is always better at <50m, ZH better elsewhere

Model 8 = 180, 200 RPM
ZH-29 = 150, 163 RPM

Model 8 can also get good hipfire buffs

[crisp forge]

guys you know if the new map will come with new weapons?

[glad wasp]

I'll just take the zh29 for the consistency

VIckers K confirmed

the silence carbine has been teased

[midnight nimbus]

different guns for different roles 🤷🏼‍♀️

[glad wasp]

fair

[midnight nimbus]

it's like AL8 vs 1906 in BF1

[glad wasp]

I use the #6 for cqb

[midnight nimbus]

Webley is by far the best sidearm

[glad wasp]

how many body shots for the #6?

[midnight nimbus]

like BF1, non revolvers basically aren't guns

idk what min BTK is, bc i uninstalled before getting to look at all the game files

[glad wasp]

dont like the game?

[midnight nimbus]

but 2BTK min with respectable 3 and 4BTK ranges

BFV is awful

[glad wasp]

F

I like it

wait, then what do you do here everyday?

[midnight nimbus]

attrition is bad, but not nearly as bad as visibility issues

i think BFV gunplay is conceptually really good

i want to like the game, but i can't like it in its current state

[glad wasp]

I love attrition, it prevents camping

[midnight nimbus]

attrition encourages camping

[mossy badge]

Attrition is amazing

[midnight nimbus]

you see a lot of top players having to default to it a lot

[mossy badge]

I've seen less camping in BFV than BF1

[glad wasp]

I also dont have a visibility issue

[midnight nimbus]

only way you don't run out of ammo and health reliably

[glad wasp]

is to go with the team/your squad

[midnight nimbus]

and camping in Rotterdam corners is super effective

forced TAA makes shit so blurry

[glad wasp]

its not camping if you are around the objective, its defending

[midnight nimbus]

same difference

[glad wasp]

lol

[mossy badge]

That really sounds like a personal issue to be honest

[glad wasp]

so you cant defend cap zones?

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 already has pretty bad visibility for a shooter

and it's way better than BFV

[mossy badge]

Not really

[glad wasp]

sounds like a you issue....

[mossy badge]

^^^

[midnight nimbus]

I play at 3440x1440 and have excellent vision 🤷🏼‍♀️

just have high standards for FPS visibility

[mossy badge]

I mean, having the 3d spotting ability in BF1 has trained so many people to look for tiny dorito's they actually forgot how to spot enemies

and previous battlefield titles

[glad wasp]

visibility apply both ways

[midnight nimbus]

what's the difference between shooting at doritos and soldiers?

[glad wasp]

so if enemies can see you, and you cant see them.....

[midnight nimbus]

less engaging gunfights

rather be visible and be able to see people

[glad wasp]

lol fuck shooting at doritios

[midnight nimbus]

there's no technical difference

except one is a vision test and one isn't

good eyesight isn't skill

[glad wasp]

it takes positioning out of the equation, and you cant flank at all

[mossy badge]

Because a tiny dorito is above the players character model, its super easy to know where the fuck everybody is.
But when you actually have to use skill (Lack of a better word) to see the character models themselves, oh no, god forbid we actually have to focus and put effort in

[midnight nimbus]

if you can't flank bc you're spotted, you're just bad at flanking

[glad wasp]

and being able to carefully scan your environment before sprinting in is absolutely a skill

when you flank, all it takes is one guy taping q and now you have 10 guys shooting you

[gray glade]

i still find it kind of hard locating enemies occasionally

[sterile wadi]

I think BFV gunplay is some of the best in the series.. everything is smooth and it makes you think a little before turning a corner. Plus you can actually walk around the map without someone spotting you just for accidentally aiming in your direction

[midnight nimbus]

BFV became overly concerned with minutia that doesn't really improve gameplay vs actually improving mechanics

BFV gunplay is decent

[gray glade]

ppl melt into the background very easily in bfv

[glad wasp]

stop sprinting every where

[mossy badge]

It certainly is much harder spotting people in BFV, but that's what make it so much rewarding and more challenging

[midnight nimbus]

the interaction and immersion memes are really unnecessary

[mossy badge]

You actually have to put skill and effort into the game

[glad wasp]

if you are checking your corners and still missing people, its really just a eye problem

[midnight nimbus]

and detract from core play

[mossy badge]

It adds to it

[glad wasp]

How is target acquisition not a core play

[midnight nimbus]

I'm not talking about target acquisition here

[solid hinge]

finally got the MG42

[mossy badge]

Noice

[solid hinge]

it delets

[glad wasp]

get the 200 rounds for it

250*

[midnight nimbus]

https://i.gyazo.com/b61a4b021473a9f13ce8f5cd5f2dfbfd.gif

like this is just ridiculous

[gray glade]

@solid hinge its pretty sweet

[midnight nimbus]

even on tryhard settings, the inability to remove TAA is just awful

[crisp forge]

@solid hinge you used the fg42 in the meantime? the AA sights seem to still be bugged

[solid hinge]

yeah

the reflex was bugged too

[gray glade]

the AA sights are unusable imo

[crisp forge]

yeah!

im so mad about that aI love the fg42

[mossy badge]

What exactly is the point of that video @midnight nimbus ?

[gray glade]

the AA sights are bugged for mg42 as well

[solid hinge]

i used the MG34 the drilling and the FG-42

[glad wasp]

I think he is trying to say you cant see the stuff in the shadows

[midnight nimbus]

can't see people even at close ranges @mossy badge

in the shadows

[mossy badge]

I can quite clearly see a few even in that small, laggy format

[glad wasp]

you know it applies both ways right

[midnight nimbus]

lighting issues persist from BF1 as well

[glad wasp]

how is that a lighting issue

[midnight nimbus]

just because it applies both ways doesn't mean it's good

[glad wasp]

go to a dark alley irl

[midnight nimbus]

why does IRL apply

it's a video game

[drowsy dew]

There's been no lighting issues for console so far

Even on narvik

[midnight nimbus]

similar issue to BF1, where sometimes you'll look out a window and everything is super bright

[drowsy dew]

Nah

[mossy badge]

That's normal ?

[midnight nimbus]

I had to adjust brightness per map on BFV

[glad wasp]

BF is not a twitch shooter, slow down your play

[midnight nimbus]

Narvik and Fjell got cranked down to 35%

[mossy badge]

I get it sometimes when i wake up early in the mornings and walk out to my balcony ?

[solid hinge]

like in siege

[midnight nimbus]

Rotterdam at like 70%

[glad wasp]

maybe you should adjust your monitor

[drowsy dew]

I'll go play Medal of Honor european assault now bye

[midnight nimbus]

already calibrated for accurate color representation 🤷🏼‍♀️

[mossy badge]

Still sounds like its a you problem.
🤷

[glad wasp]

I really have nothing for you, I dont have issues with seeing things

If you run into the open against a guy in good concealment, theres no reason he shouldnt win

the fact that you view defending a cap zone as camping tells me BF really isnt for you

[spiral adder]

Stationaties are sooo good compared to bf1. Got a 7 kill streak before deciding to hop off to avoid the panzerfaust xD

[midnight nimbus]

https://twitter.com/nickelbf/status/1030196688714182658?s=21

it's hardly a me thing too

people who care about maximizing their ability all notice it

[glad wasp]

lol he is in a bush

[mossy badge]

he is literally in a bush ?

[glad wasp]

I mean, if im in a bush, gosh i hope im not sticking out like a thumb

[mossy badge]

Would you like semi transparent bushes ?

[midnight nimbus]

or just no bushes

[mossy badge]

...

[glad wasp]

this guy....

[midnight nimbus]

sitting in bushes is battle Royale silly shit

[glad wasp]

eh...im done

[midnight nimbus]

64p and "stealth" is just a terrible combination

[solid hinge]

so

[glad wasp]

you know BR is based on Arma right

its original a mil sim, not silly shit

[pale spade]

Hey, im sure I missed it somewhere, but does DICE have plans to add BFV to the mobile stat tracker app

[solid hinge]

Hmm

[midnight nimbus]

ArmA is a pretty terrible PvP game, so yeah, it's pretty silly

[glad wasp]

@pale spade Soon

[midnight nimbus]

you play ArmA to roleplay

[solid hinge]

can one do anything about being inside and cant see shit outside but the second you step outside you can see just fine?

[midnight nimbus]

not to actually compete

[glad wasp]

they said they are working on it

[solid hinge]

ohhhh

[pale spade]

@glad wasp Ok, thank you! was just curious if they had it planned.

[midnight nimbus]

huge jumps in contrast have caused issues in BF since forever

[pale spade]

have a good one

[solid hinge]

the same problem rainbow six had

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 desert maps and BF4 Lockers suffer from it badly

[glad wasp]

its like an eye adaption thing, a lot of engines have this effect

UE4 was worse

[solid hinge]

operation locker was a shitfest

[glad wasp]

its to model your pupils adjusting

[queen holly]

i hate operation locker

its a mess

[sterile wadi]

BF4 Lockers was brutal with the contrast. but it makes sense with eye adjustment

[gray glade]

narvik on daytime looks too bright for me

i have to lower brightness from 70 to 50%

[glad wasp]

snow blindness for $500 alex

[solid hinge]

my assignments aren’t registering kek

[glad wasp]

what gun?

[icy sluice]

Got 12 kills with a JB-2 on a point in breakthrough, didn't move up. Love having shit teammates

[vast heart]

So what’s operation metro/operation locker of bfV?

[glad wasp]

Aerodome

[icy sluice]

Fjell maybe

[vast heart]

Aerodrome is still too wide open. Even the main hangar is a huge room

[glad wasp]

Fjell doesnt have that many tight chokes

main hangar got 6 sets of major choke points

[vast heart]

Fjell is the snowy mountain top ‘ight?

[glad wasp]

ype

[fallow venture]

do we know if britain/germany will get more vehicles as time goes on? or is it fixed

[glad wasp]

tides of war

[fallow venture]

so could we see like panthers and shit

[glad wasp]

who knows

[vast heart]

I really enjoy combat in fjell. Both ground and air

[solid hinge]

fjell and aerodrome are cancer lol

[mossy badge]

Aerodrome is ok

Just needs to be a bit bigger

[vast heart]

@solid hinge how so?

[glad wasp]

he probably doesnt like pure infantry meshes

[vast heart]

Good point

[sterile wadi]

Devastation when youre sniping in the train facing the water you are practically invisible unless they see your scope. Guilty of camping there a little bit....

[solid hinge]

Fjell is just chokepoints without cover and Aerodrome is gg once the enemy team captures C

[glad wasp]

Fjell is fun though, I kinda of like it

sucks on breakthrough

[vast heart]

Fjell has choking points but also plenty of flank routes

Combat is never forced in a corridor

[solid hinge]

I want BF4 sized maps

[vast heart]

But I do kinda see your point

[glad wasp]

I rarely see a choke forming on fjell, it almost always gets flanked

[solid hinge]

the only big map we got so far is Twisted steel

[glad wasp]

BF4 sized? Aerodrome, Arras, Hamada are all big

and twisted

[solid hinge]

Ok hamada

forgot about that one lol

[glad wasp]

Hamada im pretty sure is bigger than any bf4 map

and Arras is Caspian boarder size

[solid hinge]

nahhh

[glad wasp]

Panzerstorm should be big too

[solid hinge]

caspian border was way bigger than arras

[glad wasp]

theres a comparison on reddit

[vast heart]

Rotterdam is basically seinne crossing haha

So it’s bf3 sized. Perhaps a bit bigger. Definitely with more verticality

[glad wasp]

https://i.redd.it/sfrxv9mubnm11.png

[solid hinge]

rotterdam is that small=

*?

[glad wasp]

its a lot of corridors, so it feels big

[solid hinge]

i want a hamada sized rotterdam

lol

[vast heart]

I think it’s even smaller than fjell

[sacred hull]

have you seen stodeh get like 115 kills on rotterdam with the stg?

[vast heart]

What mode?

[sacred hull]

conquest

its insane

[glad wasp]

hamada sized rotterdam...rip consoles

[sacred hull]

he only dies 5 times

[south lichen]

@vivid lotus not a platoon but were a league based around planes with a tank side in development.

[vast heart]

That’s impressive. As far as killcount, I got around 80-90 pretty often. I die a lot more than 5 deaths though haha

[vivid lotus]

@south lichen cool got a discoed

[sacred hull]

meh

[vivid lotus]

Discord

[sacred hull]

i get like 60 most times

around there

[south lichen]

@vivid lotus Dm you

[vivid lotus]

Okay

[solid hinge]

ohh

i have a OG picture of BF3 PS3

[foggy pulsar]

do u know what is press review edition ?

[solid hinge]

175kills and 50something deaths

[gray glade]

that feel when i waited like a month for black friday to look for good graphic cards and all the ones i found either have barely nothing off or its not a card i want

[sacred hull]

black friday this year was fucking terrible

you can tell there's gonna be an upcoming recession when the highest sale you can find is 40% haha

[glad wasp]

if theres no sales, it means economy is doing good no?

[solid hinge]

stock up on gold

[sacred hull]

meh

[glad wasp]

higher demand for consumer goods

[sacred hull]

sometimes

but iwas joking anyways

[solid hinge]

i mean the US economy is doing fine

[sacred hull]

pfff

the uk one is going into the shitter

really soon

[solid hinge]

yea

[glad wasp]

US economy is in great shape

like it or not

[sacred hull]

well i never said i didnt

so

[fallow venture]

not for much longer

[sacred hull]

whatever

[gray glade]

hey guys

[glad wasp]

#general this is in great danger of going political

[solid hinge]

And how would you know? @fallow venture

[fallow venture]

upcoming recession

[solid hinge]

US median GDP growth has been roughly the same the last years

[sacred hull]

lol this all started over a joke

lmao

who's actually down to play bf5

[fallow venture]

i would be up.. im just waiting for the means to be able to play it lmao

i have to get a console for now

my gtx 970 wont be able to handle it

[sacred hull]

dude i have a 1060 3gb and its ok

[spiral badge]

I have ^ as well

[fallow venture]

how much of a difference is there between 970 and 1060?

[sacred hull]

like 10 fps

idk

[solid hinge]

Chinas gdp growth was still 7% last year lol

[spiral badge]

Sure it's not super high settings but I don't really give a shit

[sacred hull]

yeah same

i play low-medium and some ultra

[spiral badge]

My CPU could do with a replacement, it's pretty bad

[fallow venture]

isnt medium like, still really good looking anyway

[sacred hull]

yes

[spiral badge]

Yes

[sacred hull]

i love the way it looks

it looks better than ultra in some ways because of blur and shit

i hate that

[solid hinge]

use ReShade

[sacred hull]

yeah this game is so blurry

like any fixes apart from sweetFX?

or not

[solid hinge]

ReShade not sweetfx

[sacred hull]

reshade is sweetfx or no?

[solid hinge]

takes like 1 minute to install

[sacred hull]

but wouldn't that destroy my fps?

[solid hinge]

no

[fallow venture]

wait wtf

i just looked

ultra and medium isnt THAT much of a difference lmao

but a big fps boost

jesus

[sacred hull]

yeah frostbite looks rly good

you cant even tell the difference

[solid hinge]

Just use the reshade AdaptiveSharpen shader

[sacred hull]

i have no idea how to download it

but thanks for telling me

[solid hinge]

if you want ill show you how to set it up

[spiral badge]

Google is your friend, probably

[solid hinge]

pm

[glad wasp]

or just turn the game to all low, mesh on ultra, and then pump unscale to 200%

[sacred hull]

idk

[glad wasp]

its pretty good for visibility if you dont care about looks

[gray glade]

unscale?

[sacred hull]

i've done that and not only do i get horrible fps but it doesnt look much different

[glad wasp]

upscale*

[solid hinge]

trash preset then

it doesnt take much fps

[sacred hull]

trash preset?

[solid hinge]

yea

[sacred hull]

dude all of my settings are on low

i get like 80 fps

[solid hinge]

im talking about reshade

[sacred hull]

no im talking about upscale resolution

[fallow venture]

oh btw

[solid hinge]

yea my 1070 can run ultra + 120% fine but 125%+ causes FPS drops

[fallow venture]

my cpu is 4690k @ 3.50hz

along with the 970

how would i do

[solid hinge]

ok

[sacred hull]

im getting a 1070 ti 8gb and im gonna overclock it

[fallow venture]

so, i could do decent on medium/

[sacred hull]

basically 1080 for $150 less

[solid hinge]

get the 1080

[sacred hull]

no dude

its like $150 more

and for 10 fps i dont give a fuck xD

[spiral badge]

Shit's expensive

[sacred hull]

i may not even upgrade in the end xD

[solid hinge]

i got my 1070 for 360 bucks

[sacred hull]

but i dont live in the us

so there's my problem

[solid hinge]

ill wait for the 2100 series

me neither

[sacred hull]

lol in like 4 years

[solid hinge]

i live in the EU

[sacred hull]

cool

i still cant find a gpu thats better than mine lower than £300

unless i go on ebay and idk if i can trust them

like second hand dealers

yanno?

[solid hinge]

just look at the ratings

[sacred hull]

i have but i still have that gut feeling

[glad wasp]

amazon have really good buyers protection

which is why lots of people dont sell used on amazon

but its like really good, sellers would say too good

[solid hinge]

i still have an old 770 lying around

[sacred hull]

lmao i bought a deathadder for £30 thinking it was too good to be true

[solid hinge]

i would use it as a Physx slave card

[sacred hull]

and turns out it was broken

[mossy badge]

oof

[sacred hull]

got my money back instantly

[solid hinge]

but i oly have 2 pcie slots

[glad wasp]

me too, with a 780

[solid hinge]

i still have GPUs from 2005 in my drawer lol

[glad wasp]

I used to sli 780s, sold one, didnt get to sell the 2nd, now it seems like I should just keep it, selling it is more trouble than its worth

[fallow venture]

okay guys, lets say i upgraded my 4690k to i5 8600k, but didn't upgrade my 970

would i get a big boost still

[sacred hull]

get an i7

[solid hinge]

dont

keep your cpu

[glad wasp]

probably not

[solid hinge]

rellly

upgrade your gpu

your cpu is fine

[sacred hull]

yeah that wouldnt do shit ur cpu is ok

[solid hinge]

trust me

[fallow venture]

but.... gpus are so expensive rn :-(

[sacred hull]

not really

[glad wasp]

get a team red

[solid hinge]

rob some homeless ppl

idk

[sacred hull]

they were over £1000 6 months ago

[fallow venture]

oh, right, they are dropping price wise ye?

[sacred hull]

idk

but they are cheaper now than before

[wild oxide]

Probably, with Bitcoin dropping, GPUs are in less demand by Miners

[fallow venture]

i was going to buy the 1080ti but people are saying the company took it out of stock/production so it wont be as cheap

gutted about that

[solid hinge]

nvidia needs competition

you have to sell your organs to be able to afford a 2080 ti

[sacred hull]

cheapest 1080 i can find is £490

which is like $600

[fallow venture]

no compeititon hurts in the long wrong for everyone, company included

and imagine when a competent foe does rise, you'll get your shit destroyed

like what happened with sim city vs cities skylines

[spiral adder]

Yes competition is good

[fallow venture]

£490 still sounds really good ratio wise

imo

[glad wasp]

AMD seems to finally be able to challenge intel at least

[spiral adder]

Less 5% improvements and 100000% price hike

[sacred hull]

amd rx 580 8gb?

[solid hinge]

so you are saying competition is bad?

(USSR anthem playing in the background)

[glad wasp]

also lol at cities skyline, paradox dlc fest, if it was EA people would be so mad, fuck the echo chamber

[fallow venture]

yeah paradox are scummy as fuck right now

i used to adore them

[pulsar valve]

This is #battlefield-legacy-titles btw

[fallow venture]

i still love their products but man...

oh ye shit

[glad wasp]

sorry

[fallow venture]

so yeah

i could get away being medium with my 970 and i5 4690k for now?

and dont upgrade my cpu yet?

[glad wasp]

I love how #battlefield-legacy-titles is talking tech and #technology is talking BF

[fallow venture]

OH SHIT

[gray glade]

yea

[fallow venture]

still unrelated

[solid hinge]

your cpu is fine

[pulsar valve]

#technology

[glad wasp]

lol

tech is still on about BF

[solid hinge]

no one is talking in the channel anyway rn

[undone cave]

@tight kettle my point isn't wrong

[glad wasp]

lol bill is trying to turn the tide

[midnight nimbus]

RX 570, RX 580, GTX 1070, RTX 2070 are probably the best deals rn

590 isn't worth

1070 Ti if you find it on sale

[mossy badge]

A 1070 is great

1070 Ti even better

[undone cave]

1080

EVEN BETTER

[midnight nimbus]

get a 2070 instead of a 1080

[mossy badge]

A 1070 ti is a cheaper 1080

[midnight nimbus]

a bit better for the same price

[gray glade]

#technology

[latent cairn]

[opaque hinge]

Get a 1080ti

[unborn blaze]

Get a console for the same price as the card

[topaz atlas]

Get the card

[unborn blaze]

Get neither, and buy a V1 rocket

[jovial forge]

No

get a churhill crocodile

[solid hinge]

hey guys in your opinion whats the most graphic intense mission in singleplayer

i want to see if rising the resolution scale will give me a better AA effect

[lucid kestrel]

the prologue probably

since it expands over multiple regions? can see the graphics in the desert/ air/ etc

[jovial forge]

Been on the multiplayer. Prologue had BF1 level of action

but better

Shame the Tank portion wasn't its own mission...or is it

[solid hinge]

tirailleur seems pretty intense with the forest and constant explosions

[lucid kestrel]

@jovial forge

lol didn't mean to just @ you :v

was gonna say I think theyre releasing the tank part in december

[spiral badge]

Yeah, but it's not necessarily a part of the war story

The other bits weren't, either

[jovial forge]

Hopefully that German tank park was practically a shout out to BF3's Thunder run mission.

[solid hinge]

yes please

one of the best singleplayer BF missions

[pliant geyser]

not saying much

when 99 percent of SP BF missions are dogshit

Dice should give up on Single player, they are just bad at it.

[spiral badge]

Yeah, I kinda wish they had just focused on MP

[pliant geyser]

Not to mention its such a huge waste of resources dedicating people and time to make something that ultimately will be trash

COD had the right approach to it.

[spiral badge]

I'm sure they could make it better given time but they don't HAVE time, so they just cram something in there for the sake of having MP

[pliant geyser]

Focus on the mp dont even bother with sp since most people dont even play it

[spiral badge]

And again, no one buys BF for the SP

[glad wasp]

^

I wish dice didnt even bother with SP

all that SP work can be at least 4 more maps

[pliant geyser]

I mean has DICE ever had a good sp campaign ?

EVER ?

[gray glade]

me too

[hazy lynx]

BF3 and Bad Company 2

[pliant geyser]

BF3 SP was TRASH

[glad wasp]

Most people would say BC and BC2 campaign wasnt bad

[pliant geyser]

BC 2 sp was aweful too man

[glad wasp]

I also like BF3 sp as well

[pure veldt]

what % of people you think are playing 90FOV slider meaning 106? 😄

[spiral badge]

I only played BF1/4/5 campaign and none of them were good so

[pure veldt]

i see so many fisheye videos

[gray glade]

bc2 campaign was funny tbh

lots of jokes and stuff

[pliant geyser]

it was funny but compared to companies that make dedicated fps sp games was it even mediocre

[gray glade]

the best part of BF1 singleplayer was the intro stuff, where you died over and over

[spiral badge]

^

[solid hinge]

bf1s loading times

bruh

[glad wasp]

BFV prologue was good too

[solid hinge]

im dying

[kindred orchid]

I remember playing BC2 campaign and the FoV being locked so terribly low that I got sick while playing it.

[glad wasp]

BF historically never had sp, its better if we go back to that

[pliant geyser]

i agree

[glad wasp]

more and better maps

[thorn current]

is there somewhere you can see stats of previous games you played

[pliant geyser]

then again BF needs to go back to its historical roots in alot of aspects

[glad wasp]

I dont even care that much about guns, like make it one guy per class, im ok with that

[pliant geyser]

Fuck jack of all trades classes, go back to faction tied equipment and restrictive but varied classes

[spiral badge]

Noooope

[pliant geyser]

go back to large maps with bases and vehicles spawning there

[spiral badge]

Slow the fuck down son

[frigid seal]

My game is bugging

[spiral badge]

Feel free to restict yourself to whatever weapons per faction but let me use an MP40 on Allies, just pretend it's looted

[thorn current]

anyone knows?

[pure veldt]

game was fine before 20th

[solid hinge]

anyone remembers battlefield hardline

no

[spiral badge]

No

[solid hinge]

just me?

[pliant geyser]

lol hell no

[pure veldt]

so much whining now after official release

[glad wasp]

hardline was alright

[kindred orchid]

I played it briefly.

[glad wasp]

single player was nice

[latent cairn]

ikr Panda

[kindred orchid]

I think the lack of players is what turned me away from it eventually.

[glad wasp]

they got the guy from shield to play your boss

[pure veldt]

i want premium and deluxe only servers 😄

[pliant geyser]

BF5 is alright but it needed another year or two in the oven

[solid hinge]

i played it in PC and console, night and day difference

[pliant geyser]

bf5 simply isnt finished

[spiral badge]

Well duh

[glad wasp]

lol what

whats so unfinished about it?

[spiral badge]

Which BF game launched without problems?

[pliant geyser]

bf5 feels like an early access game

rushed for the holidays

[solid hinge]

[glad wasp]

no it really isnt

[pure veldt]

eye rolls so hard at reddit and complaining lately the earth starts rotating in the opposite direction

[latent cairn]

Lol Panda, yeah I never minded having to pay for premium honestly

[undone cave]

thanksgiving????

[pure veldt]

oh jesus im sorry!

[glad wasp]

it has one less map than BF1 lol

[winged basin]

Rushed for the holidays when it was delayed a month.

[glad wasp]

stop it with the early access BS

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 has the least technical issues of any modern BF release

[pliant geyser]

rushed for the holiday sales window

[latent cairn]

Yep kht

[kindred orchid]

What part of it feels like it's unfinished to you?

[spiral badge]

It's also miles above BF1 in gameplay IMO

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 launch was good in terms of technicals and networking

[pliant geyser]

its not one thing in particular

[spiral badge]

How about an example?

[pliant geyser]

it just overall feels like a less complete BF game

[gray glade]

the gameplay feels very solid, but there are lots of glitches in bfv and missing features

[latent cairn]

People think developing games is magic. It just happens by itself. People don't need to spend hours on end to get it ready every year

[kindred orchid]

Alright, what do you consider as a complete BF game?

[spiral badge]

Instead of just I dunno "Well, it doesn't FEEL complete, I can't really specify a problem though"

[undone cave]

@kindred orchid hardline LUL

[pliant geyser]

shit like promised features not being at launch

[glad wasp]

dragging bodies?

[pliant geyser]

take vehicle customization for example

[latent cairn]

Would you rather have them put a broken feature in or finish it up before implementing it?

[lofty widget]

The amount of bugs ive hit is pretty high. gameberaking bugs.

[solid hinge]

oh no

[pliant geyser]

there appears to have been alot of leaked or revealed features promised at launch nowhere to be seen

Im sure they will come

[solid hinge]

i have to wait 3 weeks to customize vehicles how sad

[winged basin]

Promised features that they said would be after launch.

[lofty widget]

Some have gotten lucky i guess not getting them but man oh man im not lucky apparently

[pliant geyser]

but having to release the game in the critical holiday window forced them to skip the features

[glad wasp]

most of the big bugs were ironed out before nov20th launch

[kindred orchid]

I've had a few bugs here and there, but none that I would consider game breaking.

[winged basin]

Vehicle customization after launch, ability to drag players after launch. Firestorm in March

[solid hinge]

what holiday?

[gray glade]

im betting these promised features were originally planned to be at launch instead of after

[spiral badge]

I couldn't care less for vehicle customization btw, can't wait for body dragging as a medic though

[acoustic sentinel]

i'm perma stuck in the DBNO phase

[lofty widget]

Oof almost all mine have to do with messed up spawning. They all require a restart

[undone cave]

yea only got 1 crash and sometimes lag spikes in about 15 hours

[latent cairn]

I find it funny that people complain about it like they ordered a pizza and it was cold. They expect a new pizza.
They are not making you a new game because you complain, the majority of those playing it are enjoying it.

[jovial forge]

Only big I've seen is when at the end of a match, you can't customize in between

[glad wasp]

no one said BR was coming at launch, even when it was announced

[solid hinge]

they could of waited till christmas

[glad wasp]

and yes you can customize in between, just not in between grand ops

[kindred orchid]

I think the biggest bug is if you're looking at Assignments at the start of the round, and you can't get out of the blurred screen.

[pliant geyser]

or waited till spring to release

[latent cairn]

The game works just fine, why would they wait?

[spiral badge]

They could have, but it's not like they released it with those features missing without telling people <_<

[pliant geyser]

Sensible thing to have done was get good pr.

[spiral badge]

You knew you were getting it with stuff st ill coming in

[latent cairn]

❄

[pliant geyser]

DICE " we see that you are not happy with the direction BF5 is heading, we will delay the game to fix it and release it in Spring of 2019"

[gray glade]

the PR thing isnt a developer issue tho

its an EA issue

[pliant geyser]

its very much a DICE issue.

[solid hinge]

people just jumped in the bandwagon to talk shit on BF

[lofty widget]

The only truly upsetting thing for me is that its 2018 and people can still turn down grass settings negating a huge aspect of what makes a map look and feel good. And be used as a gameplay mechanic. I play on pc's because they are ahead of consoles. Yet they arent.

[glad wasp]

@kindred orchid when you click esc/menu key, and you dont see a preview of assignment progress on the right, dont click assignments, it means server hook up error, if you see it, you can click, doesnt matter if its start of match or not

[solid hinge]

i dont care about PR

[pliant geyser]

DICE devs the game EA just markets it.

[spiral badge]

They still do it as well, it's hilarious

Scraping at whatever old shit to try and keep the mindless hate trai ngoing

[kindred orchid]

Oh.

[latent cairn]

If people dont like it they should just leave and move on with their lives. 🙃

[gray glade]

the reveal trailer im guessing had alot of EA input to it, which is why we saw alot of ppl say "this isnt representative of the game" right after

[glad wasp]

If you dont like it dont buy it

[gray glade]

like immediately

[glad wasp]

its so true

just probably dont say it too loud

[spiral badge]

Just a day or two ago I saw a guy whining that the British flag was removed and replaced with the Allied star in the ticket counter... first of all I'm pretty sure it was like that to begin with, but even if it wasn't, the flag is still on the main spawn on the map

Meanwhile he's crying censorship or whatever incredibly stupid

[latent cairn]

lol

I hate 2018 🤣

[spiral badge]

^

[latent cairn]

People have become such snowflakes

"people", some people

[kindred orchid]

We live in a time where voices need to constantly be heard and their voices are supposedly the most important. 😛

[pliant geyser]

I dont see the British flag being removed as censorship

[undone cave]

people really out here complaining about games they haven't even bought

what a time to be alive

[pliant geyser]

I do dislike not seeing a nazi flag though

[solid hinge]

woman fighting in WW2 REEEEEEEEE

[latent cairn]

Lmao Peanut

[spiral badge]

It wasn't even removed, that's the thing

It's on the bloody map

[pliant geyser]

especially with Germany no longer having a ban

[kindred orchid]

I remember when I didn't even know games would release, I'd play them and thought it was the best game ever.

[solid hinge]

thats how it happend

[glad wasp]

BF1942 didnt have swastikas either

[gray glade]

the british flag being removed feels natural if they intend to combine the allied forces

[latent cairn]

I was hating on the arm, but I dont mind women in the game

[solid hinge]

russia has a ban on swastikas

fyi

[latent cairn]

lol

Yeah germany too

[undone cave]

im pissed they took the german face mask i thought it was cool

[pliant geyser]

Death Shrieks need to go though

[solid hinge]

no

[lofty widget]

I dont mind the women. Only when i mow down 3 and the screams combined

[spiral badge]

Oh yeah, no one whined about no swastikas in BF1942...

[latent cairn]

That is why we are not getting them

[solid hinge]

germany does not

it got abolished

[latent cairn]

Really?

[pliant geyser]

hard to play with an erection the shrieks cause

[latent cairn]

oh

[glad wasp]

also the new german law states it has to be approved on individual basis, good luck convincing gov in a game where you can play as a nazi @pliant geyser

[lucid kestrel]

lol

feelsbad

[undone cave]

@lofty widget 3 women death screams is nightmare fuel

[solid hinge]

no

[gray glade]

yeah some of those female screams have to be fixed man

[solid hinge]

the stuka is nightmare fuel

[lofty widget]

They could be slightly toned down

[spiral badge]

Pretty sure DICE already acknowledged that they're way louder than male screams or w/e

[gray glade]

my fellow soldier dies and she literally screams like a toddler

yay

[spiral badge]

All they gotta do is lower the volume

[undone cave]

yea at this point it has to be a bug

[spiral badge]

Well yeah

[solid hinge]

but its cool tho

like

[spiral badge]

It's not MEANT to be way louder

[solid hinge]

ik

[crisp forge]

those screams haunt my dreams

[solid hinge]

make both loud

[undone cave]

lul

[solid hinge]

tbh

immersive

[spiral badge]

What haunts my dreams is when I tag someone and the bleedout starts ticking faster like "you what"

[solid hinge]

Its 2018 no goverment can control which games you get to play

If i wanna play a game i will

[undone cave]

what haunts me is running to someone to rez and just as i get there they die

[lofty widget]

Bf should have hunger and thirst. Yes?

[pliant geyser]

I secretly hoped BF5 was just going to be BF1942 in a new engine when it was announced 😦

[gray glade]

as long as we also have to pee and poo

[spiral badge]

Yeah, because you totally live long enough for those to be relevant

[glad wasp]

lol rose colored glasses

[pliant geyser]

Days of classes and faction specific equipment are long gone I am afraid

[glad wasp]

1942 would be hated in todays standards

[pure veldt]

when do we get Symthic BFV stats

[undone cave]

@spiral badge you never used the m1a1?

[spiral badge]

I did

[undone cave]

you dont die with it

[spiral badge]

I meant usually but yeah

[latent cairn]

Totally StarGaze!

[lofty widget]

lol

[gray glade]

bf1942's gunplay was HORRIBLE even by the standards back then

like REALLY bad

[latent cairn]

We should also have to take a dump once in a while

[lucid kestrel]

true lol

[kindred orchid]

But it was still fun as hell.

[pliant geyser]

yea gunplay was bad sure

[spiral badge]

Gibonez, nothing's stopping you from equipping a tommy gun to your allied medic and an MP40 to your axis medic

[undone cave]

@latent cairn at least once per game

[gray glade]

i loved the vehicles tho

[latent cairn]

Yep!

[spiral badge]

And so on

[pliant geyser]

its not that I can do it that I dislike is that others arent forced to

[latent cairn]

and if we dont find a spot we will be running in a "funny" way @undone cave

[undone cave]

and if game goes too long you have to periodically scratch it

[pliant geyser]

especially in a ww2 game since its such a balanced setting

[spiral badge]

I dislike that you want to force which guns I use

[solid hinge]

remember the submarines in BF1942

[lofty widget]

I hate this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR8zM4qnJJE

[spiral badge]

So take that

[pliant geyser]

the asymmetric balancing of ww2 makes for super fun gameplay.

[lofty widget]

The amount of time you can bolt back and scope in again is retarded

[spiral badge]

Guns were looted all the time, I really don't see the problem

[pliant geyser]

especially in the combined warfare aspect of bf

not really toxxy

looting a mp40 from a nazi in ww2 would be an easy ass way to get friendly fired

[spiral badge]

No?

[solid hinge]

[lucid kestrel]

that was probably only an issue in Vietnam tbh

[solid hinge]

how does that work

[lucid kestrel]

since the AK47 was so distinct

[glad wasp]

you will absolutely get in trouble with your unit if you loot enemy weapons to use

[kindred orchid]

BF Vietnam was like the best game to troll people with.

[solid hinge]

can we get an 🇫 in chat for murica that lost to a bunch of rice farmers with AK's

[glad wasp]

no matter what war what nation

[lucid kestrel]

lol

[glad wasp]

not ok at all

[kindred orchid]

I remember helicopters being able to pick up vehicles.

[undone cave]

yea reading about it sounds are a big thing in war so it was never encouraged as it led to lot of gernades being thrown at you

[pliant geyser]

Vietnam was a different kind of war however.

[kindred orchid]

And if you blew up the vehicle, it'd blow up the helicopter without a team kill.

[pliant geyser]

soldiers were drafted and alot of them did not want to be there

they did whatever they wanted at times

[glad wasp]

its also a war crime to dress as enemy units

[pliant geyser]

hard drugs, stole equipment etc.

[glad wasp]

you are thinking hollywood lol

[solid hinge]

anyone got a screenshot of the Lee enfield chrome?

[spiral badge]

No one's fuckin' dressing as the opposing faction here, just looting guns

[solid hinge]

not like anyone cares about warcrimes

i would have been a draft dodger lol

aint gonna fight in some jungle for some politician

fuck that

[glad wasp]

if another war comes, Im going to try to become a mechanic or something

[spiral badge]

Also, there's no friendly fire in BF5 so that's suddenly an immersion argument and not an asymmetry argument

"Oh well you cant loot enemy guns cuz your friends will shoot you"

[glad wasp]

i was talking about irl, in game use whatever you want

[gray glade]

ww2 actually had drugs and stuff too

[undone cave]

i want one of my allies to be able to kiss me on the lips while theyre rezing me or else im not immeresed

while were both men 👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[spiral badge]

I was talking about what gibon said

Since he wants restricted weapons for asymmetry

[glad wasp]

yeah, fuck that

[spiral badge]

Which is fucking boring if you ask me, if it's going to limit my weapon variety

[glad wasp]

BF is a arcade shooter set in ww2

[gray glade]

it feels slightly less arcadey than previous BF's tho

[glad wasp]

if you want faction specific locked weapons play PS or something

[vast heart]

I like playing photoshop too

[pliant geyser]

RED ORCHESTRA 3

is my one hope

[spiral badge]

Or go play the whatsitcalled mod for BF2

[undone cave]

yea play post scriptum for realism bf aint it

[pliant geyser]

PS is too slow for me

[glad wasp]

realism, modern gameplay... pick one

[solid hinge]

post scriptum aka walk for 40 minutes and get sniped from a random direction

no thanks

[pliant geyser]

faction specific equipment does not really have to mean realism

[spiral badge]

Forgotten Hope 2, that's it

[solid hinge]

If you want realism go enlist in the army

[spiral badge]

Go play that

[pliant geyser]

its just a balancing issue

[spiral badge]

It's not an issue though, it's easier to balance if everyone can use everything

[pliant geyser]

BF = symmetrical balancing, Faction specific = asymmetrical balancing.

[undone cave]

its not tho its muh imersion so i want to penalize the entire game

[pliant geyser]

symmetrical is fucking lazy

[spiral badge]

No, it's variety

[glad wasp]

there would be endless rage with asymmetrical balancing

i can already see it

[pliant geyser]

there might but for ww2 its pretty awesome.

[glad wasp]

hell we already see it with the air game

all the germans complaining about spitfires being OP

[gray glade]

asymmetrical is really hard to balance properly

[spiral badge]

"People would prob hate it but it'd be awesome"

Yeah, great

[pliant geyser]

some factions had better artillery, others had better tanks

[kindred orchid]

Just remember the early cosmetic options.

[vast heart]

I like asymmetrical warfare in RO/RS. Especially RS2, bombing vietcongs with ffar rockets

[spiral badge]

I still want that red beret for everyone

[kindred orchid]

People hated it, but it would have been great. 😛

[glad wasp]

it could work, but not in BF

its just not that sort of game

[topaz dome]

joining servers with squads working yet?

[glad wasp]

yep

[spiral badge]

Only problem related to that (that I know of) is that joining a server that your friends are in doesn't work if it's a full squad

[glad wasp]

At least on PC it works great

[spiral badge]

Which is dumb

[glad wasp]

*only up to 4 players

[lucid kestrel]

Mannn I got so excited when it said I unlocked something thinking it was the beret but it was just face paint

[spiral badge]

Yeah, but then it shows the beret with it

[solid hinge]

Should watch the HBO documentary Vietnam war.. tl:dr merica can't wage war against rise farmers.. fun Fact, usa dropped more bombs on the ho chi minh trail than in ww2 combined

[spiral badge]

I thought that too

[topaz dome]

because two days my friends were raging because we couldn't join servers together

[glad wasp]

if you want more than 4, start with 4, let someone leave and make a new squad, your 5th+ can join off him

[spiral badge]

Yeah but it's dumb that you gotta do that

[glad wasp]

beats not working like BF1 and BF4

[lucid kestrel]

weren't british airborne beret-toting blokes as well? pretty sure the beret was more commonly found than what bfv shows lol

[spiral badge]

I dunno but I want it

I also want hair

[lucid kestrel]

let's petition lol

[glad wasp]

its coming in tides for sure

relax

[spiral badge]

I imagine it'll be available when cosmetic stuff shows up

[solid hinge]

btw, how big is the BFV digital download? PS4

[spiral badge]

Yeah

[glad wasp]

on pc is 40g

[mellow shuttle]

`38g

[spiral badge]

Oh

[lucid kestrel]

@solid hinge 51.4gb over here

[solid hinge]

ah, thanks

[kindred orchid]

If you have more than 4 friends in a single game, there's also a chance that you'll be playing against each other after reach round due to team balancing.

[spiral badge]

I started leveling scout a few days ago for the outfit unlock (don't care about scout otherwise), there any sage advice I should know of?

[glad wasp]

small chance yes

use the zh29

[kindred orchid]

I joined a friend last night at the end of the round and I got put on the opposite team the next game.

[lucid kestrel]

haven't had an issue with team balancing, I wasn't sure it was in this game :v

[spiral badge]

Don't have that yet but good to know

[kindred orchid]

Use the Model 8 when you get it, and upgrade to ZH29.

[glad wasp]

Im doing the same right now, zh29 is so fking good

best bolt action if the m95 if you want to try that

[kindred orchid]

It's not so much team balancing, but adjusting so both sides have 32.

[spiral badge]

I used the M95 so far

[glad wasp]

its the only decent bolt action

[spiral badge]

Yeah it felt way better than the Enflied

[glad wasp]

zh29 is a 2 body kill 100%

pretty useful

[kindred orchid]

Unless at super far range.

[glad wasp]

no always

no matter the range

[spiral badge]

Sounds broken

[kindred orchid]

I was using it the other day and it took 3 hits to take down a guy, but it was from across the map.

[glad wasp]

model 8 and RSC 2 or 3 BDK depends on distance

you might have legged one

[kindred orchid]

I only saw his chest and head.

But maybe the drop hit his foot, who knows. 😛

[glad wasp]

yeah, at least at any normal range its 2

[spiral badge]

Also can we please give an M2 carbine to the Assault and the M1 to Medic instead

I hate the SMGs >_<

Feels like a BB gun

[glad wasp]

lol M1 carbine is the best gun right now

giving it to medics would be so op

[midnight nimbus]

M1 Carbine really isn't that amazing

Turner is better

[glad wasp]

medics dont need a mid range option, with self heal they would be the most op class

[spiral badge]

I just want the SMGs to not deal piss poor damage okay

[kindred orchid]

I think they need to beef up the SMGs.

[spiral badge]

The range isn't even a problem

Sten and MP40 are accurate enough

[kindred orchid]

They should not be losing to any semi-auto at close range.

[glad wasp]

smg damage drop off should be toned down

they dont

suomi has the best cqb ttk right kht

[spiral badge]

Yeah, good luck killing anything past 5 meters with that

[midnight nimbus]

MG42 is better

[spiral badge]

I meant the slower RPM SMGs

[glad wasp]

i mean yeah, but you cant compare it with mmgs

[midnight nimbus]

but otherwise yea Suomi is top

[spiral badge]

They are so goddamn slow and deal so goddamn low damage

[kindred orchid]

Yeah, but even with an MP40, it should not lose to any semi-auto.

[midnight nimbus]

it doesn't

Turner with hipfire buffs can tie the MP40

in some scenarios

[kindred orchid]

I have killed a guy using an MP40 even when he got the jump on me as an Assault with a semi-auto, hell even with a Model 8 on Recon.

[midnight nimbus]

AL8 with hipfire buffs can beat it, but it's hard to use

maybe that guy just sucks 🤷🏼‍♀️

[storm ferry]

Can dice please make it so I can unlock new guns

[midnight nimbus]

and you out aimed him

[storm ferry]

It’s glitched out

[kindred orchid]

You need to play a full round of a game and not leave to get your guns.

[storm ferry]

Ive been playing for days and these guns aren’t unlocked yet

[spiral badge]

My Support Mastery assignment and the MG42 bugged out, asked them to fix it, they did, and now duplicates appeared

So I have an extra MG42 and an extra Mastery Assignment

[kindred orchid]

Lol.

My ZH-29 mastery assignment is bugged, feels bad.

[glad wasp]

my too\

[spiral badge]

Can some of the Mastery requirements not be utterly retarded?

[glad wasp]

but restart fixed it

[spiral badge]

I get it's supposed to be hard but wtf

[glad wasp]

I had 2 proficiency ones

[storm ferry]

OMGG

[gray glade]

i also have dual mg42's!

[kindred orchid]

I still haven't had mine fixed even with a restart.

[glad wasp]

also the text for zh29 proficiency is fucked

[storm ferry]

Why can’t I just have my STG 😤😤😢😢

[glad wasp]

but it still works

[gray glade]

i wish i could akimbo the mg42's like rambo

[spiral badge]

I wish I had a Trench Gun.

[storm ferry]

I wish I could use the weapons I’ve been grinding for

[kindred orchid]

You know what mastery sucked the most? That 4 headshot kills in one life for Recon.

[spiral badge]

Oof

[kindred orchid]

People kept killing the people I headshot.

[storm ferry]

Ooof

[kindred orchid]

I'd get to 3.

[spiral badge]

Not looking forward to that one

[kindred orchid]

And then die.

[spiral badge]

And then no one revives you

[kindred orchid]

Yup.

[vast heart]

Is it for a gun or for the outfit?

[kindred orchid]

Outfit.

[vast heart]

Dayum

[spiral badge]

^

[kindred orchid]

It's like 3 assignments that you have to do all 3 or something.

[vast heart]

Might be a bit annoying

[glad wasp]

only thing you need is a medic friend

like just get him to keep rezing you

[vast heart]

Isn’t it either one of those?

[boreal sail]

Anybody plays aircraft with a joystick?

[vast heart]

For assault it was complete anyone

[spiral badge]

Yeah maybe just get a friend and play super safe for that

[kindred orchid]

No, it was all for Recon.

[spiral badge]

Have him rez

[kindred orchid]

I got it eventually, but it wasn't fun doing it. Haha.

[vast heart]

I hate recon in this game

[glad wasp]

for some reason they made recon everything harder

[storm ferry]

When is dice gonna fix these game breaking bugs

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You can contact their support for missing unlocks and stuff, they do it super quick

Worked for me

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Which outfit is recon mastery?

Holy ghost?

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Canis Horribilis

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For the brits

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And the British jacket/mask

Holy Ghost is medic

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Oooh that one. That’s really cool

Union jacked I think it’s called

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Yeah

That's the one I want, wish the mask didn't have the flag painted on it though

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I mean aside from the gasmask

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I think the biggest issue I have with Recon is that the Assault Semi-Autos are pretty much as strong, if not stronger than the Recon Self-Loading Rifles, with the same 3x scope options and no glare.

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Bigger mags too, just a bit less damage

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I dunno. I struggle to connext shots with bolt actions

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I should not be out sniped by an Assault or even an LMG/MMG for that matter.

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And hardly ever find headshots

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I mean

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are there a ton of cosmetics not released yet? cus I've seen a ton of them in pre-release footage, and now there is only a handful, also everyone has a lame buzz cut....

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I think ppl should be able to kill snipers

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I wasn’t this shitty in bf3/4

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I do hope Tides of War comes with lots of cosmetics

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They should, but not when it's a literal 1v1 at a Recon's preferred range.

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are they holding them all back for dec 6th? cus there are things from the open beta that aren't even in

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Snipers still beat out bipoded LMGs most of the time, since supression doesn't exist

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I think Recon's should lose at medium/close range, just not at long range.

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Sure you'll get hit, but you can just headshot the LMG and win

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unless you cant aim like me

only playing recon for the cosmetics tbh

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Same

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yeah the supression gives nice points but thats about it

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It's literally nonexistent

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I think that's why they're almost like lasers most of the time.

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and suppression spotting is good, but i never get it to work

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MG34 hitting around a sniper of even directly in the chest, they still aim at me just fine

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@kindred orchid The 4 headshots assignment can be cheesed rather easily, just needs a good tank driver 😉

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lol

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i saw tiggr say somewhere that there was hair you just had to unlock better helmets but ive previewed them all and no hair to be found. even though the soldiers in the armory have hair

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it only asks for headshots, but it won't care the weapon used as long as you spawned as a scout

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How about 30 kills while prone in one round...

Hell naw is my answer to that

with sniper

headshots

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im never gonna get that assignmet D:

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yeah, heard of that and probably won't care

who wants a golden gun anyway? it sticks out everywhere

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i can barely get 15 kills period as scout

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Haha, I ended up getting it on Rotterdam eventually.

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Crouch kills count for the prone thing

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bug?

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Why it only says prone or why it's a requirement to begin with, fuck knows

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Probably

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I almost never go prone as scout

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well hope they dont fic it lmao

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I didn't like the crouch kills.

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30 is a bit high

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Promoted camping, which was not fun.

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That's hella high

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Lucky Cynikal

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like not everyone can drop as many kills as those flying aces

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it only takes one good sniper against you to make it impossible

prone targets are the easiest

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Yup.

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Assault Master for example had a couple more difficult options, but then one that's not necessarily hard, just time consuming

60 kills on objectives or w/e

Every Mastery should have those options

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what was the other objective on that assigment you usually jsut need one or the other right

?

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60 kills on objectives or 20 in a round or something like that.

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o i meant for the prone kills

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I think the hardest one is getting kills while attacking objectives.

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Yeah

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I would love if noone Except scouts got a 3x

and i main support

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Cause it's such a short window cause it only counts when it's red.

I think they should remove the glint from 3x for Recon.

Or add the glint to everyone using a 3x.

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i personally hate the glint in general

even as a medic main it makes snipers less scary

wait do other classes using scopes not get glint?

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They don't.

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wtf