battlefield-legacy-titles

[hoary plover]

Mostly.

[vivid lotus]

AA needs a major boost

[solid hinge]

most maps lack AA guns

[vivid lotus]

Almost useless

[hoary plover]

Cause he's doing Operations.

But really.

[vivid lotus]

All the AA lacks power to actually down a plane

[hoary plover]

That the blueberry medics are doing their jobs.

It is horrifying.

[vast heart]

Try as I said. Fail 100 times and when you start to succeed consistently you’ll see that AA doesn’t need a buff

[jovial forge]

Ah. Most youtubers always catching those clips where everyone is incompentent

[hoary plover]

It's like I've entered some sort of loopy land.

No, no.

Rogue.

[solid hinge]

hold on

[hoary plover]

These blueberry medics.

[solid hinge]

stop right there

[hoary plover]

Are doing their jobs.

And reviving people.

[solid hinge]

AA needs a buff VS BOMBERS

[hoary plover]

It scares me.

[jovial forge]

Oh snap, thats something you don't see often. Scary indeed

[hoary plover]

IKR.

[solid hinge]

not fighters

[hoary plover]

Dude got shot.

He has a squaddie.

Instantly reviving him.

TWICE.

This shit is scary, yo.

[gritty oriole]

Does BFV has potential for competative leagues like 5on5 domination?

[vast heart]

Idk man. The only thing I’d change is to adjust bombs blast radius, but then again the spitfire’s ones would become firecrackers.

[jovial forge]

You no whats even scarier

Supports fixing tanks

Shit is rare

[hoary plover]

Whoa.

That happens?

No, you know what is also scary?

[jovial forge]

ikr, rarely see it

[shell kiln]

Rank 49 in the world at killing, meh
https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/leaderboards/stats

[hoary plover]

Teammates building fortifications.

[vast heart]

Or the delay for a complete rearm on the bomber. Make so that every pass on a refill station only refills the selected payload

That’d reduce the point and click game

[jovial forge]

You mean, rebuilding them after you built them?

[vivid lotus]

I love the hurricane op fighter plane

[hoary plover]

No, straight up building them.

[solid hinge]

kills ≠ being good

[hoary plover]

I only played the beta.

[vast heart]

Or remove the 3rd person aim reticule altogether

[hoary plover]

And I swear.

I was the only one ever building up the fortifications.

[jovial forge]

I believe you. Was on last night on Devestation. Enemy team completely fortified out home base flag.

[solid hinge]

now that is scary

[vivid lotus]

Fortifications are great with barb wire

[jovial forge]

Was hell to get it back but we got it. I learn that the 1907 is legit to

[hoary plover]

Also, I still haven't seen people use the buddy drage mechanic.

drag*

[jovial forge]

its still post launch

[hoary plover]

Ah.

[vivid lotus]

Wait there’s a drag mechanic

[hoary plover]

Buddy drag.

You can drag a downed friendly.

[vivid lotus]

Didn’t know that

[hoary plover]

And then revive him.

Seems to be post-launch.

Probably gonna implement that into the system later on.

As of now, I still haven't seen it.

[solid hinge]

yes

[jovial forge]

BFV will be availble post launch

[solid hinge]

plz

drag mechanic

[icy sable]

Still can't find my paratrooper token in armory

does ea have live chat for bfv online support?

[vivid lotus]

Me neither

[solid hinge]

so i can drag my squad mate to the water

[mossy badge]

They do @icy sable

[jovial forge]

yes. I had to do that to get my Open beta tag

[icy sable]

ok thanks

[hoary plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1eXIF0IsX4

The blueberry medics here.

They scare me.

Also, I haven't checked yet, but...

[solid hinge]

BF5 in console looks so fun

[hoary plover]

Are the German paratrooper planes Ju 52s or repainted Skytrains?

[solid hinge]

i remember playing BF3 on PS3

good old days

[jovial forge]

It was fun, just sucked that we had player count reductions

BF3 with 64 players looked amazing

[solid hinge]

on PC is just going at 100% all the time

[vast heart]

@hoary plover still C47. Even when they hook up you are a brit. You change german after jumping

[hoary plover]

...

[jovial forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TacHw02WKe0 I loved watching this guys gameplay

[hoary plover]

They should change that some time.

[jovial forge]

of the Ac130

[vast heart]

Asap I’d say

[hoary plover]

Also.

I went far and wide.

[solid hinge]

disgusting

[vast heart]

It was confusing. Invading belgium as a brit? Then as soon as I landed I saw germans around me

[hoary plover]

And I think I found every development in the StG series.

Including prototypes.

And variants.

[solid hinge]

the AC 130 in bandar desert in rush

[hoary plover]

MKb-42 (H), MKb-42 (W), MKb-42 (G), StG-45 (M), StG-44, MP508, MP507, MP43, MP44, Grossfuss Sturmgewehr, Gerat 06, Wimmersperk Spz-kr

[solid hinge]

now that is aids

[hoary plover]

This is not listed in chronological order.

The MP507 and MP508 are two variants of the Volkssturmgewehr.

[jovial forge]

Least BF3's AC130 could defend itself. BF4's was a free kill

[hoary plover]

The Gerat 06 evolved into the StG-45.

The StG-45 is also known as the Gerat 06H.

MkB-42 (G) only half-counts.

[vast heart]

I want that sweet 101st / 82nd airborne outfits. They’d match the tommygun and the m1a1 carbine so well

[hoary plover]

Because.

It was part of the trials that led to the MkB-42 (H).

[vast heart]

So many stgs

[hoary plover]

Or the other MkB-42s in general.

I searched high and low for these.

I don't even think this is a complete list.

[solid hinge]

i want more germany cammos

they look so good

[hoary plover]

I also have this list.

G41 (W), G41 (M), G43 mod 3, Kar98K, Solothurn S-18/1100, VG1, VG2, VG3, VG4, VG5, Panzerbüchse 39, Gewehr 88, Gewehr 98, Gewehr 98/40, Karabiner 98a, Karabiner 98b, Gewehr 24(t), Gewehr 29/40(ö), Gewehr 33/40(t), VSK, M35, SDK, A115, Knorr-Bremse Paratrooper Rifle, SG 29, Szecsei & Fuchs Double Barrel Bolt Action Rifle, Gustloff 206, Stenbach M1936, Krag-Jorgensen, Mannlicher 1895, Carcano M1891, Carcano 91/38, M1895, SS-41, Lahti L-39/44

[vast heart]

I’m not that keen on ww2 weapons. I just like german potato masher grenades

[hoary plover]

Fun trivia.

There was a machine pistol variant of the Browning Hi-Power.

[vast heart]

Also, easn’t the fg42 an assault rifle? Shouldn’t it stand for FallschirmjagerGewehr 42?

[hoary plover]

And it was in service with the Fallschirmjagers.

I put the FG-42 under MGs.

But the reason for that is different.

Also.

The FG-42 is a battle rifle, not an assault rifle.

[regal sapphire]

^

[solid hinge]

All I want is the M1 Garand.

[vast heart]

No idea on the differences tbh

[hoary plover]

MG15, MG30, MG39 Rh, MG81Z, MG131, Barnitzke, VMG 1927, FG42, MG34, MG42, MG08/15, MG45, MG13, MG35/36, Madsen

[solid hinge]

Is that to much to ask

[hoary plover]

General rule.

Battle rifles shoot high power rounds.

[regal sapphire]

FG-42 is more comparable to the BAR than a Sturmgewehr

[hoary plover]

Like 7.62mm NATO.

[vast heart]

Yo could you imagine if they added the .30 cal?

Or even a freaking ma deuce

[jovial forge]

OOF

That'd be deadly

[hoary plover]

Assault rifles fire intermmediate rounds like the 5.56mm.

[regal sapphire]

Beat me to it Ro

[vast heart]

Swinging that 37kg beast around and start sending lead across the map lmao

[solid hinge]

Y’all are boring

isnt the FG42 open bolt?

[hoary plover]

Dunno.

Never checked.

Though, funny thing.

[regal sapphire]

Yes, and BF5 is one of the only games that portray that correctly

[hoary plover]

The FG-42 achieves something no Cold War battle rifle ever could.

[solid hinge]

bc you only have the ammo of the magazine

[vast heart]

I don’t think 5.56 nato was around during ww2

[solid hinge]

you can have 1 in the chamber

[hoary plover]

It wasn't, Boot.

[regal sapphire]

It wasnt boot

[solid hinge]

It wasnt boot

[hoary plover]

Anyway.

What the FG42 achieves.

[vast heart]

I know. It wasn’t really a questuon

[mellow willow]

@vast heart It has "NATO" in it's name, that's giving it away 😉

[regal sapphire]

FG42 became the M60

[hoary plover]

That no Cold War battle rifle achieves.

Is.

Controllable full auto fire.

With a full power cartridge.

[vast heart]

It was referred to the assault rifle explanation by caliber

[regal sapphire]

Yeah.. try going full auto with a M14, you'll regret it very fast

[solid hinge]

the FG-42 is like the SCAR-H from BF3 but has higher RPMs

[hoary plover]

But on the other hand.

[vast heart]

7.62x39 is still an assault rifle caliber

[hoary plover]

FG42 on full auto is more controllable than a FAL or G3 in full auto.

[mellow willow]

reminds me, always loved the FAMAS in BF3/4, any similar rifle found so far? 😃

[hoary plover]

Nah.

7.62mm is battle rifles.

Snipers.

[vast heart]

Dude

[hoary plover]

MMGs.

[solid hinge]

whats the difference between battle rifle and assault rifle

[vast heart]

7.62x51 is a battle rifle caliber and it’s nato, 7.62x39 is former urss and it’s the al

Ak*

[regal sapphire]

7.62x54r is battle rifle

[hoary plover]

Battle rifles use full power rounds like 7.6.

Oh, AK-47 ammo.

Yeah, AK ammo is intermediate.

[solid hinge]

its almost the same as nato 7.62

a bit smaller

[vast heart]

Nope

[regal sapphire]

No, thats not Ak-47 ammo

[vast heart]

Much less powder and slower muzzle velocity

[hoary plover]

^

[vast heart]

Only the ball’s caliber remains the same, effects and applications are very much different

[solid hinge]

im talking about the bullet itself

[regal sapphire]

7.62x39 is

[mint hornet]

who cares
so long as the rounds kill the bad boy that's all I care about.

[hoary plover]

Funny thing, Sausage.

Most rounds today.

[mint hornet]

If the brass in the bangstick doesn't work, get different brass.

[solid hinge]

og ak's used 7.62x54r right?

[hoary plover]

In the military.

Are designed to wound.

But they can kill.

[vast heart]

No. 7,62x54 is pkm

[mint hornet]

That's why you turn on the fun switch @hoary plover

[hoary plover]

But fore the most part, designed to wound.

No.

[vast heart]

It’s russians lmgs

[solid hinge]

just use hollow point

[hoary plover]

Fun switch is almost never used, tbh.

Fun switch is uber situational.

[mint hornet]

just use explosive .50 rounds l u h m a y o

[solid hinge]

i know its banned

[hoary plover]

And for the most part, you will be shooting on semi.

[regal sapphire]

I do lol

[mint hornet]

and the fun switch IS very situational
as in you use it in every situation you can.

[vast heart]

Jhp couldn’t pierce body armor for instance

[hoary plover]

Sausage, pls.

[mint hornet]

just keep your booger hook off the bang switch and you're fine baby

[vast heart]

5.56 was introduced in vietnam to make more serious wounds

[hoary plover]

You know, the Germans had another semi-auto shotgun by the time of WW2.

It's not the Walther Toggle Lock.

Look for.

Rheinmetall Nr. 4.

[mint hornet]

inb4 m30 drilling
'double barrels are TEKNIKALLY semi automagic'

[solid hinge]

funny thing is 5.56 does less damage

[vast heart]

5.56 tends to bounce off bones and/or split apart inside to cause more internal damage whereas a 30.06 or a 7.62x51 would pierce through the soft target causing less stopping power

[hoary plover]

It looks very much like a Browning Auto 5, but they are quote different.

[mint hornet]

Nothing beats a trenchgun.

[hoary plover]

5.56mm is weaker, yes.

But it works well on wounding.

Ultimately.

[solid hinge]

its a 22. going hella fast

[hoary plover]

Wounding your enemy drains more resources.

[solid hinge]

it wont do as much damage

[hoary plover]

Than killing them.

[mint hornet]

just use .50 lmao you can't wound your enemy if you dissolve them.

#EquipEverySoldierWithAMaDeuce

[hoary plover]

I don't know if Sausage is a troll or an idiot...

[solid hinge]

why use 50 cal when you can use a 14.5mm machinegun

[mint hornet]

i'm shitposting

can't ya tell

[hoary plover]

Good.

[solid hinge]

duh

[vast heart]

Fun fact, the m2 hb’s barrel weighs exactly 12.7kg, whereas 12.7mm is also the ball’s caliber

[mint hornet]

match made in heaven.

[vast heart]

Pls dice bring M2s

[solid hinge]

50 cals is for kids

real man use 20mm rifles

[mint hornet]

real men use 40mm autocannons as concealed carry

[vast heart]

Oh the ptsr or ptrd would be neat as well

[solid hinge]

lol

[hoary plover]

https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?234595-Rheinmetall-Nr-4-shotgun

[mint hornet]

just some poor mugger tries to rob you
"TRY ME BITCH"
whip out a fucking BOFORS gun

[primal sage]

Real men use 30 MM GAU

[solid hinge]

give russkies explosive sniper ammo

[hoary plover]

https://www.leonardauction.com/auctions/auction-catalog-detail/?auctionID=207&lotID=364

They are legitimately rare enough that it's hard to find much about them. They're named the Rheinmetall Nr.4 which sort of implies predecessors but there is nothing out there about that. This has at least a couple good pictures, I'll have to dig around because years ago a guy actually did a good write up on the Rhm Nr.4

[vast heart]

I really hope they add russians, japanese and americans.

[hoary plover]

I hope they add the Philippines.

[mint hornet]

dice pls give us luxembourgian troops

[solid hinge]

i want japan

i need it

[vast heart]

Well a pacific theatre would be set there wouldnt it?

[hoary plover]

Corregidor map.

An entire island that is a fortress.

[mint hornet]

I wanna see Mussolini's Meme Bois, Roosevelt's Rangers and Hirohito's Heroes.

[vast heart]

Instead of airborne, amphibious

[hoary plover]

Btw.

Links above.

[solid hinge]

saipan

[hoary plover]

For Rheinmetall Nr. 4.

Check it out.

[mint hornet]

WAKE ISLAND 2018/19

[solid hinge]

no

stop

[mint hornet]

yeah

i'll

wake island is overdone

t b h

[solid hinge]

i hate wake island

[hoary plover]

Battle of Manila and Battle of Corregidor.

Battle of Bataan.

[vast heart]

There’s so many locations they could set for major battles

[mint hornet]

Aussies V Japan
Bogans V Samurai

[hoary plover]

And maybe even a nod to the Bataan Death March.

[vast heart]

Guadalcanal, iwo jima, peleliu...

[hoary plover]

Manila.

[mint hornet]

we could see some fuckin' ghurkas

[hoary plover]

Everyone forgets the Philippines.

Rip.

[mint hornet]

I know them as the american puppet in HoI 4 that gets 40 divisions

[tight kettle]

guacamolecanal

[mint hornet]

gophercanal

[vast heart]

Sorry my knowledge of ww2 comes from hbo’s miniseries

Jk lol

[old bluff]

i hope

the ptrs 41*

comes

[hoary plover]

PTRD?

[solid hinge]

PTRS

[mint hornet]

PTRS?

Big Commie RIfle.

[hoary plover]

There is also a PTRD.

[old bluff]

ya know the big portable

[mint hornet]

just give us the B O Y S

[solid hinge]

PTRS is semiauto

PTRD isnt

[old bluff]

anti-tank, anti-material rifle

[hoary plover]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTRD-41

[mint hornet]

anti-limb rifle @old bluff

[solid hinge]

anti-anything*

[vast heart]

20mm is no joke lmao

[old bluff]

that has a detacable bolt for two ppl to carry in the field

[mint hornet]

oh yeah
did you dorks see
88mm Flugzeugabwehrkanone confirmed

[old bluff]

or foldable I dunno

yes I did!

[hoary plover]

You know what they should add?

[vast heart]

Nevelwerfer

[mint hornet]

M5 Maxon Mount?

[hoary plover]

The assault config for the MG34.

[mint hornet]

quad 50s

[solid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jupKqqqgBJM gib

[vast heart]

And the katyusha for the soviets

[hoary plover]

Assault config for MG34 should have the saddle drum.

[mint hornet]

give https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yifKfSfTro

[hoary plover]

MG42 assault config should have the 50-round drum.

Assault config is another term for LMG config.

[vast heart]

Nah I think the mmgs are fine the way they are

[mint hornet]

hello hello
who needs assault configs when you can just
S P R A Y

volume of fire > accuracy

[hoary plover]

You know.

The USMC is starting to phase out the M249.

As well as the British Army.

British Army phasing out all their M249s by 2019.

[solid hinge]

am i the only one that insta leaves when i get FJELL?

[hoary plover]

British Army gonna be using DMRs for suppression.

[mint hornet]

just fire the whole bullet every bullet
that's 65% more bullet per bullet.

[vast heart]

What?

[mint hornet]

FIRE THE SHELL CASING AT THEM

[vast heart]

You can’t ditch the saw

[hoary plover]

Sausage.

[old bluff]

nah I love fjell

[hoary plover]

G11.

[vast heart]

No way they’re doing that

[mint hornet]

That's caseless

tho

[hoary plover]

They are, Boot.

[mint hornet]

I'm talking cased ammo, firing the whole fucking round, case and all.

[old bluff]

also I hope they bring the katyusha

[vast heart]

^

[mint hornet]

just give us the Sherman Calliope

"GERMANY SURRENDERS"

[vast heart]

Has anyone tried the mine clearing charges? Are they fun against infantry?

[mint hornet]

yes

very

[hoary plover]

The L110A3 will be removed from service in 2019.[32]

[vast heart]

Deadly?

[regal sapphire]

The Thompson auto rifle is a better shoot the casing option

[hoary plover]

L110A30 is the M249.

[mint hornet]

well
then again
these are the brits

[vast heart]

We call it minimi from its belgian mame

[mint hornet]

the same people that fought over the falklands.

the falklands

[vast heart]

It pains me. Fngs will never know the joy of humping a 249

[mint hornet]

I can just
get a civvie version

[vast heart]

I saw it was released in the us

Wish I could buy one haha

[hoary plover]

Though program officials were aware that switching from the belt-fed M249 would result in a loss of suppressive fire capability, Charles Clark III, of the Marine Corps' Combat Development and Integration Office, cited the substantially increased accuracy of the M27 as a significant factor in the decision to replace the M249.[21]

USMC news.

[vast heart]

Oh the m27 iar again

[mint hornet]

ye
we've got some dudes over here from 'nam, smuggled back M60s and old VC rifles

oh god

that meme blaster

[hoary plover]

At SHOT Show 2018, the Marine Corps announced that the deal with H&K to produce 11,000 M27s for the Marine Corps had been finalized and that the M27 IAR would be adopted as the standard issue service rifle of the Marine Corps infantry, replacing the M4A1.[22]

[vast heart]

This shite happened in 2015 as well I believe

[mint hornet]

the knockoff m416

[hoary plover]

Nah.

Better than a 416 in some ways.

Worse in others.

[vast heart]

Maybe they’ll be given out to Meu’s marsoc

[mint hornet]

knockoffs can be better than the original

sams cola to coca cola

[hoary plover]

The M4A1s are being relegated to second line units.

[vast heart]

Only the ffl got the sweet deal of replacing famases with 416s

[hoary plover]

The M27 IAR is now the new service rifle of USMC combat units.

[vast heart]

Lmao the pogs get to play with the old toys

[mint hornet]

twisted metal head-on to twisted metal 2
Bad Company to the mainline series

is it pronounced POG "Puh-Ogg" or Pogue" Pug-oh-guh"?

[hoary plover]

"Poug"?

[mint hornet]

doug

[glad wasp]

Eh.. M27 is meant to replace the m249

[hoary plover]

Ct.

[glad wasp]

its not the new service weapon

[hoary plover]

It is legit the new service rifle.

[mint hornet]

just replace everything with M1 garands

[hoary plover]

At SHOT Show 2018, the Marine Corps announced that the deal with H&K to produce 11,000 M27s for the Marine Corps had been finalized and that the M27 IAR would be adopted as the standard issue service rifle of the Marine Corps infantry, replacing the M4A1.[22]

[mint hornet]

your sidearm
m1 garand
Anti Tank?
M1
AA?
M1

[glad wasp]

damn, didnt know that

[hoary plover]

Granted, only for combat units.

[glad wasp]

last I heard it was going to replace the saw

[mint hornet]

EVERYTHING IS AN M1G

[hoary plover]

Second line troops keep their M4A1s.

[glad wasp]

holy shit, congrats H&K

[vast heart]

Pogs are ‘people other than grunt’ and grunt is an infantryman. 03 mos.

[mint hornet]

no I mean how is it pronounced

[vast heart]

Basically rear echelon guys

[hoary plover]

Pogue.

[mint hornet]

I know they're R E M Fs

[vast heart]

Ye

[glad wasp]

surprised the marine would mass purchase a foreign design

[hoary plover]

Pronounced as "pogue."

[mint hornet]

My brother IS one
chair force boye

[glad wasp]

I guess the new pistol is sig too

rip domestic arms industry

[hoary plover]

I feel betrayed that.

Fucking.

Zastava Arms is making an assault rifle.

In 6.5mm Grendel.

[primal sage]

SIG is replacing the M9?

[mint hornet]

ew @hoary plover

[hoary plover]

Instead of Creedmoor.

[glad wasp]

also #general before you all get yelled at

[hoary plover]

Like.

[mint hornet]

reminds me of basegame arma 3

[vast heart]

Ye we gone a bit offtopic here

[hoary plover]

Creedmoor better than 7.62 and 6.5 Grendel.

Why would you choose Grendel?

[mint hornet]

because muh future boolets

muh oper8tion

[vast heart]

Oh by the way, are they increasing the level cap? I can’t earn any more company credits now that I’m rank 50

[glad wasp]

and yes, SIG is replacing the M9, army only though

Rank is only up to 50

but you should get CC every few matches

[mint hornet]

@vast heart how the FUCK

[glad wasp]

its broke right now

[hoary plover]

Boot.

[mint hornet]

did you do that

[hoary plover]

On the other hand.

[glad wasp]

Im 50 too

[mint hornet]

how

[glad wasp]

only had 30 hours in the game

[mint hornet]

the game is 2 days old

[hoary plover]

The Brits are keeping their FN MAGs.

[mint hornet]

3*

[glad wasp]

I mean it came out more than 2 weeks ago

for me

[mint hornet]

oh

speshul edishions

fair

[glad wasp]

Dan said they would look into retroactive rewards for rank 50s

I'm not holding my breath for it, but it would be really nice

[mint hornet]

just give 'em like
a special melee skin

give 'em a golden shovel

there ya go

the ace of spades

[glad wasp]

I'm running around with the cricket bat

I type hello o friend in chat everytime I wack someone

[hoary plover]

I only played the beta for BFV.

[vast heart]

I preordered

[hoary plover]

So I need you guys to tell me something.

[mint hornet]

choot

[hoary plover]

Are the reflex sights still ass or not?

[glad wasp]

no its good now

[mint hornet]

just use irons

[vast heart]

Plyed a week early, about 40 hours to get there. Grinded my butt off after work

[glad wasp]

but everyone uses 3x scope

[mint hornet]

always use irons

[glad wasp]

so fking good

[hoary plover]

Cause I legit couldn't see shit through the reflex sights.

[mint hornet]

NOTHING BUT IRONS

[hoary plover]

And I despised the scopes.

[glad wasp]

I only use reflex on the MMG, cause they dont get 3x

[hoary plover]

It fucks with how I handle recoil.

[glad wasp]

depends on what gun i guess

[hoary plover]

And so I am used to irons.

[glad wasp]

smgs I dont use scopes, but I also dont even ads with smgs

[mint hornet]

Yeah if you can't tell I'm a bit of an iron-sight purist
but then again, I got tired of reflex sights after CoD WW2

[vast heart]

Maybe you mean the aperture sights

Cause they’re still ass

[glad wasp]

Aperture sight is still ass yes

[hoary plover]

I use iron sights because I could see through them.

But other than that.

Medium scope was ass.

[glad wasp]

What do you mean, medium 3x is awesome

[hoary plover]

So were all the other sightz.

[mint hornet]

these r6 players
can't use anything that doesn't have 8x mag and 4 sights on it.

[hoary plover]

Again.

[vast heart]

I mean who in their right mind would choose those

[hoary plover]

I got used to recoil control on irons.

[glad wasp]

depends on what gun

[hoary plover]

Recoil control with scopes is fucky for me.

StG-44 is my example.

Got used to irons.

[vast heart]

Dis you uniform soldier aim sensitivity?

Did*

[hoary plover]

Sucked ass with all other sights.

[glad wasp]

44 have like no recoil if you burst

[hoary plover]

I tap fire.

I also tap fire the Sten.

[glad wasp]

dont tap, burst it

[hoary plover]

Tap firing the Sten in beta was like.

[mint hornet]

i just don't like scopes due to the simple fact of
"i don't like how they look and feel"

[vast heart]

I’ve heard 5rnds bursts is key

[hoary plover]

I should not be able to shoot that Scout in the distance with a Sten.

At all.

[glad wasp]

smg damage drop off is so intensive I dont even fight long range with them

[vast heart]

I use iron sights too

Or the AA sight for mgs

[hoary plover]

My experience with the Sten in the beta was basically.

"No."

[glad wasp]

AA sight is not nearly as good as reflective for the mmg imo

[vast heart]

Back in my days intensifies

[hoary plover]

"I should not be able to."

"Shoot a fucking Scout."

[vast heart]

I like the slight zoom

[hoary plover]

"At long range."

"And win."

[glad wasp]

reflective gives a much cleaner sight picture

[mint hornet]

me sten experience was pretty much "why do you wiggle side to side, how dare you do this, you HERETIC"

[vast heart]

Ye but no zoom

[hoary plover]

Also, I prefer tap fire because I can manage my shots better.

[glad wasp]

AA have too much shit going on for me

[hoary plover]

Witht the StG.

[vast heart]

They nerfed side strafe. It was a backstab

[glad wasp]

your not getting the most out of your dpm if you tap

[vast heart]

What? Aa is a heckin cross

[glad wasp]

if you like taping, try the m1a1

[hoary plover]

Btw, Ct.

Have a gander at this.

MKb-42 (H), MKb-42 (W), MKb-42 (G), StG-45 (M), StG-44, MP508, MP507, MP43, MP44, Grossfuss Sturmgewehr, Gerat 06, Wimmersperk Spz-kr

Went high and low.

To find the StG series.

[glad wasp]

all the stg variants?

[hoary plover]

And developments.

And prototypes.

[glad wasp]

what am I looking for in here?

[hoary plover]

MP507 and MP508 are the Volkssgurmgewehr variants.

Not much, I guess.

You seem to like the StG.

So I thought I'd share my list.

[glad wasp]

cool, thanks

its such an important weapon from a developmental standpoint

is it the first true intermediate round service rifle?

[hoary plover]

Nope.

Fedorov Avtomat.

Fedorov Avtomat had 6.5mm, I think?

6.5 Fedorov?

[vast heart]

When you invent the assault rifle and the jet engine but you still manage to lose the war 😂👌🔥💯💯

[glad wasp]

that gun was good in BF1

wonder why they didnt make more

[hoary plover]

The Fedorovs in service were handmade weapons.

[icy sluice]

M1907 SF is really good

[hoary plover]

They did make more post-WW1.

But.

[glad wasp]

21 round is too limiting for me

[icy sluice]

Extended Mags

[glad wasp]

16 to 21

still shit

[hoary plover]

All the Fedorovs got lost somewhere in early WW2.

But.

[glad wasp]

if it bumped it up to 30 it would be op though

[hoary plover]

There were many experimental versions for the Fedorov.

Even an LMG pattern.

[icy sluice]

Well, I did manage to wreck three people, those people had an MP34, FG42 and a Sturmgewehr 1-5

[hoary plover]

For the Fedorov.

[icy sluice]

Doing that made them mad at me though as if they ever saw my body, they tea-bagged me.

[glad wasp]

seem like it would have had a lot of potential, too bad the russians couldnt mass produce them

i mean its well known the 1907 is good

[hoary plover]

M1907 in BF1 has the wrong fire rate.

Should be 700 RPM.

[glad wasp]

its just that its too limiting in roles for me, guns like the m1a1 have much better engagement flexibility

if I was going into a cqb map, rather just use smgs

[hoary plover]

Btw, Ct.

There were two German semi-auto shotguns by the time of WW2.

I doubt they were adopted.

[glad wasp]

I doubt they were able to field a lot of them

[hoary plover]

There is the Walther Toggle Lock.

And then there is the very, very rare.

Rheinmetall Nr. 4

[glad wasp]

seems to me like german handheld arms industry was playing catch up most of the war

[hoary plover]

The Rheinmetall Nr. 4 looks like an Auto 5, but they are different guns.

https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?234595-Rheinmetall-Nr-4-shotgun

[glad wasp]

yeah, it does seem very rare

[midnight nimbus]

@hoary plover RoF doesn't matter

IRL guns don't adhere to one rate anyways

there's tons of variables that change a real guns fire rate

[hoary plover]

...

Dunno why you're bringing that up.

That was a throwaway mention I made.

[midnight nimbus]

770 is close enough to IRL, and you can definitely get a 1907 to shoot at 770

[hoary plover]

Not really meant to be pursued in depth.

But okay.

Ct.

The StG list I posted.

I doubt it is complete.

I will go looking for more prototypes soon.

[glad wasp]

Germans and their model numbers

[midnight nimbus]

assault could use more ARs

568 RPM, 635 RPM, and 720 RPM

[glad wasp]

Like how many panzer 4s were there.....

[hoary plover]

WELL, WHAT DO YOU KNOW.

I DID MISS SOMETHING.

STG-45 (H).

[glad wasp]

What ARs would you suggest @midnight nimbus

[hoary plover]

The H here is not the same H in the MkB.

The MkB H was Haenal.

The STG-45 (H) is Horn.

[midnight nimbus]

lmao just add the AK-47

[glad wasp]

....

M2 carbine then

[midnight nimbus]

M16A3

[hoary plover]

StG-45 Kurtz!

There is also a possible StG-45 Kurtz!

[midnight nimbus]

actually

[glad wasp]

Doesnt kurtz refer the the short rounds in the 44?

[midnight nimbus]

move StG to 635 RPM, SG 1-5 to 720 RPM, and give it rapid fire up to 800 RPM

[glad wasp]

I dont even think there ever was a sg1-5

I think they were all semi irl

[midnight nimbus]

that's the default assault gun

[glad wasp]

i meant irl

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, but 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

game needs guns

[hoary plover]

StG-45 Kurtz means short.

A shortened StG-45.

[glad wasp]

so paratrooper variant?

[midnight nimbus]

and add a new StG model at 568 RPM

[hoary plover]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRH5IzhcZkuMHbnr6qKINxxHEmqvTWhcx7R0aHSzZcJIZVF1LQu

Not a paratrooper variant.

[glad wasp]

Dont know if they were still thinking of paratrooping in 1945, be kinda of difficult with no planes....

[hoary plover]

Look at the top one in the photo.

[midnight nimbus]

568, 635, 720, and 800 covers all your bases in AR variety, more or less

[glad wasp]

maybe for vehicle crew

[hoary plover]

The one with no stock.

[glad wasp]

easy to use without stock if you are in armor

[hoary plover]

Kar98K.

The k is kurtz.

Short.

It's a shortened carbine.

[glad wasp]

I always thought K was for the carbine part

[hoary plover]

Nah.

[midnight nimbus]

and maybe give the 1907 thicc 4BTK range and move it's RoF lower

[hoary plover]

Karabiner 98 Kurz.

[glad wasp]

I guess thats right, cause it would have made it karbine 98 karbine...

[hoary plover]

That would then mean.

Short carbine.

[glad wasp]

fair

I would love to get my hand on one irl

so pricey since its nazi shit

been eyeing one of those yogo copies for a while, waiting for a good batch

[hoary plover]

Okay.

I am now going to count the StG-45 M as separate from the Gerat 06H.

Even though they are mostly similar.

[glad wasp]

I assume the variants were mostly due to different factories

and the difference is mostly how to make it for cheaper

[solid hinge]

why does dice always give the best guns to assault

[midnight nimbus]

meh, assault didn't really get the best guns in BF1

[glad wasp]

cause assaults should have the best guns...so they can assault.....

[midnight nimbus]

^ no, every class should have equally good guns, because every class is meant to kill people

[vast heart]

Assault with ammo pack and 40mm was the real deal

[midnight nimbus]

the idea of one class being best at anti infy is awful

[glad wasp]

will, its a balancing act, other classes have their pros

[solid hinge]

didnt get the best guns in BF1????????

[hoary plover]

gunlab.net/another-interesting-mp-44-style-rifle/

[solid hinge]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[glad wasp]

like in BF2, engineers get a shitty shotgun and thats it

[hoary plover]

This infuriates me.

[solid hinge]

SMG 18/08

automatico

[hoary plover]

Ct.

[solid hinge]

hellriegel

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 Assault didn't get Burton

or AL8

[hoary plover]

Check the link.

[solid hinge]

thompson

[midnight nimbus]

Hellreigel sucks ass

[solid hinge]

want me to keep going?

[glad wasp]

damn, looks like a time traveling mp5

[solid hinge]

no it doesnt tf

[hoary plover]

That no one can name the gun in thay .link.

Annoys me.

Like.

[vast heart]

Assault is offensive, support is defensive, medic keeps you alive and recon is for kittens that don’t know how to use wasd. Everything fits right in place

[hoary plover]

This shit is forgotten, yo.

[midnight nimbus]

HR just didn't do anything here than SMG 08

bc no factory mods

or even MP18

Annihilator Trench was good if you microburst from the hip, and Ribey is good

that's kinda about it in BF1

[glad wasp]

hellriguel is all you need

[solid hinge]

so if you want to be aggresive you are limited to playing assault

[midnight nimbus]

SMG08 for pubstomping idiots

[solid hinge]

this aint it chief

[glad wasp]

its class differentiation

assault cant sustain a push without medic and support

[midnight nimbus]

support is just as good aggressively in BF1

lMG or Burton

[vast heart]

Not really. But it’s easier with assault, it’s what the game designers had in mind

[midnight nimbus]

Burton is near brokenly good

[vast heart]

It’s like saying you can go for plane kills in a tank even though it’s way harder than getting them in AA tanks...

[glad wasp]

if they give medics the same quality of guns as assault, why would anyone play assault?

[solid hinge]

basically giving the assault the easiest guns to use

[midnight nimbus]

same quality!=same role

[solid hinge]

no

[midnight nimbus]

SLR medic best medic

[glad wasp]

well, medics get self heal, so if you can shoot just as good

your done

[vast heart]

Because they have to spearhead the advance of medics and pussyboys recons in the rear

They’re glorified cannon fodder lol

[hoary plover]

Ct.

I think.

[solid hinge]

funny how all medic SMG's are ass at 10+ meters

[hoary plover]

I have found all of the StG series.

But I also doubt I have.

[solid hinge]

but then the assault weapons are good at 50+

[midnight nimbus]

nah, MP40 and MP34 are really good at range

[glad wasp]

Nice, you should post a blog or something, thats a big list

[fossil mural]

guys how can we ever get the Mastery VI assignments >? (10 headshotkills in 1 life or 20 in 1 round ) this is insane difecult right ???

[midnight nimbus]

MP34 has the best hit rate of all automatic weapons

[solid hinge]

not better than the STG44 or the first assault gun i tell you that

[glad wasp]

I cant for the life of me @fossil mural

[midnight nimbus]

it is

[hoary plover]

@fossil mural Operations for the 1 round.

[midnight nimbus]

less hrec, spread formula favors low RoF

[glad wasp]

they said they might re-balance the difficulty

[vast heart]

Can’t you use a self loading rifle for that?

[midnight nimbus]

it's better than Beta StG hitrate

[vast heart]

Or is it weapons specific?

[glad wasp]

weapon specific

its for the gold skins

[vast heart]

Never gonna get those bling sniper rifles then I guess

[glad wasp]

right now its like 10 headshot in one life in objective area or 20 in one round

[vast heart]

Don’t really care either. I suck at recon hahh

[fossil mural]

@hoary plover still 20 headshot ....

[glad wasp]

I think it would be better to keep that and add 200 headshots in objective, but between any rounds

[vast heart]

You know what was hard? Gooser in titanfall

[glad wasp]

at least you can grind it out

rather than feeling hopeless

[vast heart]

Kill 50 pilots who have ejected before they touched the ground. Real challenge

[scenic beacon]

omg i remember that challenge

[fossil mural]

@glad wasp yea 200 sounds fine

[scenic beacon]

oof

[vast heart]

Probably never gonna max out any sniper in this game tho

[fossil mural]

:P:P

[vast heart]

Only the overall class for the outfit and never touching recon ever again

[glad wasp]

Dan said it will be looked at, so we might see it becoming easier

me too @vast heart

I been having a lot of funs being aggressive recon though

i think i have killed more with the #6 than with the actual rifle

[vast heart]

I can’t read the crosshair in the scope and can’t learn the lead in this game

I legit feel handicapped

[glad wasp]

embrace the #6

its a one shot headshot in close range i think

[solid hinge]

the fact that the snipers come zeroed in by default tilts me in so many ways

[glad wasp]

60m is like nothing

[solid hinge]

im used to sniping in BF3

so i aim to the top of the head

and miss

[hoary plover]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA.

WTF.

[midnight nimbus]

60m zero is effectively the same as no zero bc of how trajectories are made

[glad wasp]

another one?

[hoary plover]

IS THERE REALLY AN MKB-43?

[primal sage]

Git Gud.

[hoary plover]

I DUNNO.

[midnight nimbus]

you can win straight at the head with 60m zero for a good distance

[hoary plover]

THE IP OF WEBSITE FOR IT DOESN'T WORK.

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

[glad wasp]

you should really put all this together in a blog format its cool stuff

[hoary plover]

The google link is right there.

Tempting me.

It just says there.

MkB-43 (M).

[glad wasp]

wayback machine?

[hoary plover]

And I'm like.

What the fuck?

tonnel-ufo-english2.tk/weapon/assault-rifle-automatic-mauser-gerat-06-mkb-43-m-stg-45-m.php

1:28 AM.

I should sleep.

[glad wasp]

yeah, its like 12 in the afternoon here

[solid hinge]

are you from asia @hoary plover

wow im actually playing against a cheater

Phnatom_code_dev

he double hs evryone insta when u peak

hes 50/1 atm

[scenic beacon]

oof

[glad wasp]

timezone would make him Asia for sure

[solid hinge]

yea

its 1:40am in taiwan lol

i feel bad for the folks who have to play on asian servers

i would rather not lol

[vivid lotus]

Fuck the Asians they come over and fuck up our servers just make they’re servers better

[solid hinge]

their*

[green elm]

as an asian server player

please for the love of god

there’s like nothing to play here

[solid hinge]

are you from china

[green elm]

no

[scenic beacon]

south korea?

[vivid lotus]

Indochina?

[solid hinge]

us of a?

[green elm]

i’m usually on singapore severs

[solid hinge]

I mean BFV isnt blocked in china yet

[scenic beacon]

oof

[green elm]

oof

[vivid lotus]

Asia likes the nazis

[solid hinge]

wat

[scenic beacon]

um

[green elm]

erm

[scenic beacon]

what

[solid hinge]

honorary aryans

[vivid lotus]

Joke

[scenic beacon]

confusion?

[green elm]

confusedcius

[vivid lotus]

Very bad though

[solid hinge]

bf4 got blocked in china

[scenic beacon]

big oof

[solid hinge]

after the release of the china rising dlc

[scenic beacon]

rip siege of shanghai

[green elm]

lol woah

[glad wasp]

surprised it wasnt blocked before with that single player

BF3 pissed off iran and BF4 pissed off China

[solid hinge]

siege of Singapore?

[dapper cape]

So am I doing something wrong, the "Damage 5 enemies with grenade launcher" does not seem t fill up for me?

Is it all at once?

[solid hinge]

Fuck iran

[vivid lotus]

Lol bf4 siege of Shanghai is ultimate sniping map with the tower

[dapper cape]

is it not the third weapon for Assault?

[glad wasp]

it is

[vivid lotus]

All at once

[dapper cape]

Ah all at once, ok, thanks

[glad wasp]

apparently its inconsistent, do a few more

[dapper cape]

So I have to hit 5 people with 1 shot?

[glad wasp]

I dont think it needs to be all at once?

[vivid lotus]

Yes

[solid hinge]

yes you have to damage 5 enemies at once

while standing upside down

[vivid lotus]

I shot it on tank where people huddled

[glad wasp]

I didnt even try and done it in like one life.....0.o

[dapper cape]

I have been trying for a whole match when I kill 1 guy it dosen't register it seems

[versed hollow]

After I completed the Basic intro assignments I'm getting a message saying there are no more available. Am I missing something?

[dapper cape]

pretty sure I have killed at least 5 single targets

[vivid lotus]

Nope I think they are weekly @versed hollow

[scenic beacon]

@versed hollow no you're not, you need to level the classes to get like proficiency

[versed hollow]

Oh ok

[scenic beacon]

they're just locked atm i think bc u don't have your classes high enough level

i think

[vivid lotus]

@dapper cape with smoke grenades

[versed hollow]

And do we unlock rare outfit stuff through assignments?

[solid hinge]

are you русскии? @scenic beacon

[scenic beacon]

part, most of my family is, although i was born in Canada

have the accent, but barely know any russian, only what we speak at home

and that aint much

[dapper cape]

@vivid lotus

[thorn current]

when you click multiplayer and it brings up some games, what do the + means?

like +5

[solid hinge]

I've fired my mg42 for 40 minutes overall

[vivid lotus]

lol

Do you continueslly fire it lol

[latent cairn]

lol

[solid hinge]

🇹 🇭 🇮 🇨 🇨

[icy sluice]

🇲 🇪 🇱 🇴 🇳

[delicate violet]

What kind of new combat roles do you wanna see? I'd love to see a medic role with SLRs or Carbines.

[solid hinge]

NKVD blocking detachment

[icy sluice]

🚫

[solid hinge]

to gun down anyone who retreats

[vivid lotus]

I want all classes to have a standard bolt action rifle like carbines in bf4

[midnight nimbus]

too bad combat roles are nothing more than perks 😞

Turner SMLE medic 😩

[icy sluice]

inb4 flamethrower

[granite rune]

the quest to get company coins as a lvl 50 continues

[hollow canyon]

What does the artillery do in Grand Operations?

[vivid lotus]

Idk wondered that too

[granite rune]

as far as i can tell nothing but it should shoot infantry at random locations

tho haven't it actually kill anything

[crisp forge]

the KE7 already got nerfed?

[vivid lotus]

I shoot it about a 100 times but never got a kill

[granite rune]

i don't think you can get a kill from it

don't quote me on that one tho

[gray glade]

nah the ke7 still has the 1-frame kill bug

that moment in BFV when the chat censor makes me look like an a-hole

someone told me i had nice customizations on my character

[vivid lotus]

Wait there’s a censor

[gray glade]

i said "thanks bro"

and chat was like "thanks ***

[solid hinge]

I FINALLY DID THE MODEL 8 ASSIGNMENT

3 games in a row now again 2 kills off

and finally got it

Never touching that shit gun again

[topaz atlas]

So i completed the Honoring the Past assignment and didn't get the reward

[vast heart]

I got a enemy hit from firing a field cannon once

So it does shoot somewhere, dunno where

[hollow canyon]

Does BFV autobalance at all yet?

[vast heart]

Only between games I think. Not between rounds probably

[topaz atlas]

Where do i get Special Assignments?

[vivid lotus]

I think they are weekly

[topaz atlas]

👎

How do i claim my paratrooper and special assignments?

[thorn current]

you need to level a gun to 5

and level class to 10

[topaz atlas]

Did

Did

[thorn current]

then you should get one special assignment

[topaz atlas]

Like proficiency?

[thorn current]

ye

[topaz atlas]

Oh

Huh, how do i get like the Hades set?

[thorn current]

no idea 😛

[vivid lotus]

Is it me or does anyone else think laying sand bags looks like humping

[topaz atlas]

Ummmm

No

Not at all

I want a golden Thompson 1921

[static sparrow]

Is there a weekly rotation of medal assignments or do you automatically get the requirements met for them?

[gray glade]

medal assignments?

i've only seen the daily ones

[static sparrow]

Like in battlefield 1

Nvm

[strong parrot]

lol the classic lvl 20 sniper with his lvl 10 m95 thinking he is amazing

meanwhile my bipod wont deploy on an open window and allow me to shoot...

[solid hinge]

Does anyone know how to get the red beret? I saw it with a recon today not a pilot

[glad wasp]

as far as I know, its only tankers and pilots

[vast heart]

You sure it wasn’t a tanker?

Crewmen are usuallydressed like that

[solid hinge]

I’m 100% sure it was a recon

A beret with headphones

Looks sick af

[glad wasp]

beret with headphones is exactly what pilot and tanker look like.....

[gleaming eagle]

I have i think a bug with unlocking

I level up my support class, then when i saw the mg34, it said availible next round

[sinful steppe]

@solid hinge FREE69

[gleaming eagle]

but

[glad wasp]

play till your next rank and make sure you complete the match on the round you rank up @gleaming eagle

[gleaming eagle]

okay

[sinful steppe]

any good weapon recommendations? i feel like theres alot of trash weapons right now, the m1a1 carbine seems to be the only thing getting me 40+kill games

[glad wasp]

for assault m1a1, SMLE , 1907 as well as the starting STG1-5 are all decent

[vivid lotus]

I found the sniping gewer was great

[glad wasp]

m95?

[vivid lotus]

Yes

[glad wasp]

best bolt action for sure

but Zh29 is probably the best recon gun

[sinful steppe]

s\thats a semi auto right?

[glad wasp]

yeah

[sinful steppe]

i tried the first one out, the low mag cap made it hard to kill more than 1

they really need to buff the smgs

[glad wasp]

model 8 is shit

only semi auto worth using is the zh29

as its the only one that requires only 2 body shots

[sinful steppe]

for real?

2 body shots??

[glad wasp]

yep

[sinful steppe]

any range at full HP?

[glad wasp]

yep

[sinful steppe]

fuck me

getting that shit unlocked

thanks bruh

[midnight nimbus]

Model 8 is really good

[proven quartz]

It's for scout so your worthless to the team

[midnight nimbus]

best 9-50m TTK in the game

[proven quartz]

Flares are trash

[glad wasp]

2 hit body shot is too good though

recons are good, just depends on how you play

[proven quartz]

Eh

[midnight nimbus]

you can play aggressively with the scout SLRs

[glad wasp]

I play aggressive with spawn beacon

[sinful steppe]

imma use it kinda offensive with spawn beacons, dont worry

got a full squad too

[glad wasp]

win breakthrough matches 101

[sinful steppe]

we in this

youre my spirit animal

[glad wasp]

^

[proven quartz]

[sinful steppe]

@midnight nimbus model 8 has the best 9-50 ttk in the game?

[lucid kestrel]

Could someone summarize wtf the ttk/ttd debacle is?

[sinful steppe]

ttk weapons time to kill on your screen

ttd the time to die on your screen

pretty much

net code, lag etc will make it si that those to arent the same

eich is bad

wich

[glad wasp]

honestly, biggest part of TTD experience is the inability of the game to tell you if more than 1 guy shot at you

its not netcode, its teamshooting

[lucid kestrel]

and people are saying not to change it because the KE7 is fine instakilling everyone? :v

[glad wasp]

this is more of a UI fix thats needed

KE7 is not one shooting people

at least it never one shot me

[solid hinge]

@sinful steppe his money won’t help him now lol

[sinful steppe]

@solid hinge its so fucking sad bruh

[midnight nimbus]

@sinful steppe Model 8 is best 20-50, Thompson and Suomi rapid fire are technically better at <20m

[lucid kestrel]

that's my issue, I want to get the thompson but I know I'm gonna be garbage with it jumping everywhere

[glad wasp]

how is this calculated, what about headshots?

[midnight nimbus]

and MG42 with 'ADSed' hipfire is technically the best <35m gun, but that's a bit tricky

no headshots factored in

6 million shots brute forced per gun

aimed at center mass

[glad wasp]

but this doesnt make the model 8 better, it would need 3 bullets, whereas the zh29 needs only 2

[midnight nimbus]

headshots only factor when spread gets so high it's accidental

Model 8 is 3BTK past 50m